Max signs

And then there was one: Carey Price

Lapierre wanted term, got one year – Richard Labbé

• RDS says Goldenberg is gone

• NHL players want Donald Fehr

• Having matched San Jose’s offer to Niklas Hjalmarsson, the Stanley Cup champions have 15 players signed and $113,400 in cap space for six more. Who’s next to go? Pierre LeBrun  thinks Brian Campbell, Patrick Sharp. And Antti Niemi is going to arbitration

• SI has a slide show on biggest NHL contracts. Scott Gomez is 13th … and they show him in a Rangers uni!

• Another SI slide show: NHL celebrity WAGs, leading off with Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood. No current Canadiens on the list, but Sheldon Souray and Valeri Bure make it

Shout-out to Kevin van Steendelaar for finding this hilarious video from Wayne Gretzky’s golf tournament

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308 Comments

  1. TripleX says:

    Tukka Rask is 23 and will make 1.5 million next season.

    Are you telling me Price had a better year than Rask?

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  2. andrewberkshire says:

    Do you really not know what neo-con means? In what way could that possibly be considered racism????

    Neo-con is short for neo-conservatism. How a political ideology propagated most recently by the Bush administration could be considered a race is beyond me.

  3. andrewberkshire says:

    Did I say you were without a brain? I said use it. Arpon is also being stupid, I told him that weeks ago when he first started crying wolf.

  4. Mark C says:

    Conservatism is a race now?

  5. TripleX says:

    No, I was responding to AndrewBerkshire who advised me to “use my brain”.  He seems to need to always include a disparaging remark when responding to one of my comments.

    You’re fine dude :)

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  6. Mark C says:

    What goalies did you find around 22 years old, with over 130 NHL games experience at around league average performance?

  7. ed lopaz says:

    If I’m Price’s agent, I know my client will be the # 1 goalie for the Habs this coming season.

    I call up the Habs and ask them for the best 1 year deal I can have.

    Period.

    If I get 1.5, or 1.75, 2.0 million – I take it and sign it.

    Then I come to camp in the best shape of my life.

    I let everyone in the media know how hard I’ve trained, and how ready I am to play for the habs.

    And then I just play my tail off, and hope for the best.

    Because, the FIRST SOFT GOAL, there will be at least a few dozen clowns that will be booing.

    THE FIRST SOFT GOAL!!.

     

  8. Rugger says:

    Just read a BBC report, Uganda is blaming Somali group, since Uganda has troops on UN mission to Somalia.

  9. G-Man says:

    10-2 Chi. I tried to answer his question. Being snarky with your answer is just plain impolite. So, in that same vein: Pfffftttt!

  10. TripleX says:

    I am only going but what other goalies with similar age and experience are signed for.  Market values usually will give a good indicator what a similar player will get.

    If the market value is around 1.5 million and Price gets 2 million or more, that would logically indicate he had some extra leverage.

    I preface this with the term indicates the advantage.  Price in a four year contract at 2 million would indicate PG had the advantage.  Price with a one or two year at 2 million or more indicates the Price camp had the advantage.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  11. TripleX says:

    Read the article by Arpon Basu.  I am not the only one without a brain.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  12. SLONCOLD says:

    Uhm the flyers showed you need a good goalie or you’ll lose in the finals. and the hawks showed you can win one year and then be forced to blow up your team. lets niemi play next year; niemi didn’t exactly stand out as a goalie in the playoffs. Ask the sharks and wings what mediocore goaltending got them, early exits.

    price is the best available goalie in the whole ufa and rfa pool. not signing him would be a huge mistake for the team, short and long term.

  13. Mark C says:

    I don’t think there is any way of really knowing, and frankly 2 million seems like it might be low. PG stated he wouldn’t re-sign Metro and Moore, both bottom 6 centers, and only added one in Boyd. Why didn’t Maxim’s leverage increase? Slighty different cases, but it furthers the point that roster make-up has little to do with a players leverage.

  14. ed lopaz says:

    Certainly the changes in GM office will be totally justified if the Habs do not have a successful season.

    re: 1 year contracts – yes. Molson wants maximum flexibility going forward, is what I believe.

     

     

  15. mbplekfan says:

    Price has leverage in a world that doesnt have goalies.  Fortunately this world has lots of goalies.

    The new reality is not fun if you are a young goalie. There are lots available and plenty of evidence to think twice before offering long term contracts to any goaltender.

    If Price doesnt like what the habs are offering he can sit without a contract or go play in Europe. At this point in time no team is going to offer up a 1st and 3rd round pick to sign Carey. The most this guy gets is 3 years at 2.5 million and that fits under our cap.

    The market for goaltenders is very soft right now and could get worse. Supply is outstripping demand and the flyers and hawks just proved that you can win with a low priced goaltender if one gets hot at the right time.

  16. andrewberkshire says:

    This whole drummed up controversy about not signing Price before trading Halak is such BS. You keep talking about competent management like you’ve ever managed anything in your life. You’re one of many who never stops bitching about how “little” we got for Halak, can you imagine what we would have got if Price was already signed? Not Eller, I can tell you that. Maybe Ben Bishop.

    It’s way more important to have leverage in trade talks than negotiations with a NON-arbitration eligible RFA goalie coming off a losing season. Use you’re brain.

  17. TripleX says:

    If Price receives anything at or over 2 million I think the answer will be yes he gained leverage.

    The current market for goalies his age is around 1.5 million a year, it Price gets more it is because PG made him the No.1.

    Also the term of the contract might give some indication to which side thinks they have the advantage.  Short term advantage Price.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  18. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I’ve had some awfully mature wine that wasn’t made with talent or dedication.  So I completely agree with you, metaphorically.

  19. TripleX says:

    I agree that the Boivin “retirement” was just the first move by Geoff Molson to finally get rid of the old regime.

    It may very well have been a not so subtle warning to PG that he is on a short leash and any major blunders will be dealt with.

    Is it possible the changes some of us have wanted for so long may soon happen?  I sure hope so.

    ps Ed do you think it is at all possible Molson wants the one year contracts to give himself MAXIMUM options next season

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  20. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Laps seems to play best when he plays with linemates who bring energy as well.  TK (and Lats at times) in 08/09, Moore and Pyatt in the playoffs.  I think playing with Pyatt, and a rookie who wants to make an impact, in Eller, could work well for him.  Eller is still an unknown variable at this point, but if what the scouts et al say is true, than he could be a catalyst. Laps seems to feed off that energy.  This could actually be a dynamic third line. 

    I still for the life of me can’t figure out what is going on with Chicago, but it’s a real shame that we don’t have the cap space to take on Sharp if he’s available.  It is so strange these days.  The team that won the Cup will enter next season with a completely different roster.  Not that they are necessarily going to be way worse or anything, as that fantastic core is still there.  But it is still strange to see such significant changes to a championship team.  That’s the new NHL I guess…

  21. Mark C says:

    “This move gave Price negotiating leverage he did not previously have.  The end result is that he on his own initiative put a long term contract with Price beyond the present cap space”.

    XXX, I’ve heard this augment from many people, but no one seems to be able to qualify just how much leverage Price gained by becoming the top goalie on the roster. I believe that if Price’s leverage has improved, its pretty much negligible, at best.

    Are we to believe that the thought process in Price’s camp went from – with Halak on the roster, we’ll be happy with whatever “fair” deal we get, to now that its clear we’re the top goalie we want the moon, i.e. “beyond present cap space…long term contract,” as you state. In most contract negotiations it boils down to each sides end game. Unless an offer sheet comes, Price’s end game is to sign or hold out. Both sides understand this, with or without Halak being around the end game hasn’t changed. Management still hold the trump card and thus most of the leverage. Now, maybe the team gets restless and gives in to Price some in the end, but this idea that Halak trade as created vast amounts of leverage is wrong.

    Also, let’s not forget the flipside, if Price was signed and Halak not traded, wouldn’t PG have less leverage on the trade market to deal Halak?

     

  22. likehoy says:

    dedication comes from maturing as an individual.

    maturing isn’t just going through puberty

  23. Bugs says:

    He’s got to be more of a prig, I say. He’s good and dirty, don’t get me wrong, but he could be MORE dirty.

    And if he pops 7-10 more goals this year, he doesn’t have to drop’em more’n twice all year and I’ll be a delighted camper. Deeee-lighted. May he be dirty and hateful and drive the usual suspects on this site into paroxysms of bashing only to be proven shamefully wrong when it counts the most to his heart’s content.

    Because that’s funny to me.

    Goooo, Lappy!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  24. ed lopaz says:

    Molson is ALL OVER THIS, from A to Z – I mean the Price file.

    Believe me when I tell you that Molson is an astute hockey man, and he knows very well what has transpired here.

    I met Mr. Molson at a dinner function earlier this year, just after he became the Habs owner.

    He struck me as being smart, and very determined.

    Gauthier could have easily allocated his Cap space differently, but he chose the high risk alternative.

    Unless Price has an outstanding year – around 40 wins, for example – I believe Gauthier will be moved elsewhere in the organisation – he was NOT Molson’s choice after all.

  25. mbplekfan says:

    If after three years mgmt and the coaching staff have not sat down with Max and talked about his role on the ice and the traits they wish to see then that indicates an organization with no clue and no direction.

    Does that sound like a team that just went to the ECF?

    Max knows his role, knows his place but hasnt been able to fulfill his potential.

    Gainey and Gauthier along with the last few coaching staffs have surely worked with Max to elevate his game. It is now up to Max to grow up, shut up and come to play everynight.

  26. Bugs says:

    A cycle needs to go through more than one cycle to actually be considered a cycle. Let’s see him play like crap for one more cycle before calling way he’s “living” a cycle.

    …mature… Ain’t MATURITY makes you play better; it’s talent and dedication. Dedication comes from wisdom, not maturity. Plenty of mature donkeys out there. No wise ones.

    These guys aren’t 12-years-old, mate. They’re mature. So is Lappy.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  27. Mr. Biter says:

    Just think, if they would have offered CP $2.5 Mil. before trading JH we’d have nothing to complain about. Thanke PG for keeping this site interesting. 

  28. TripleX says:

    Arpon Basu has an interesting article on the whole Laps issue Ed as well as the Price contract.

    From what I take of it he believes PG shares the opinion of most of the HIO readers ( aside from you and I ) that Laps has yet to prove his worth.  It would seem to me that a competent management team should know what an employee is all about after three years work.

    More interesting is that he agrees with what I have been saying on the Price contract talks.  Basically PG made a tactical error in NOT signing Price before trading away Halak.  This move gave Price negotiating leverage he did not previously have.  The end result is that he on his own initiative put a long term contract with Price beyond the present cap space.  

    When the GM botches up the contract negotiations with his most valued young asset it makes you wonder about his competency in other matters.

     

    http://bit.ly/bTuXZQ

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  29. Bugs says:

    (sigh)

    You got me there, Cally.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  30. likehoy says:

    max is just suffering the ego of a hometown hero. remember when he was cut from the team after making the billboards?

    he’s living in a cycle of play well, get cocky, play like crap, then play well, then get cocky, then play like crap.

    he’s just got to mature a bit more.

  31. Mr. Biter says:

    Good post espically including cap space left. If CP goes for $2.5mil. we could get DM who i really like (and have 1-1.5 Mi. left or as there are some really good players left unsigned we may be able to finally steal someone who has yet to be signed for 2.25 mi,

  32. Bugs says:

    I just know him from Celebrity Apprentice. Big wrestler guy.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  33. ed lopaz says:

    Max’s problem is that he cant seem to find what kind of player he wants to be. 

    if you are working currently, do you tell your boss what kind of employee you will be, or does the

    boss DEFINE the role as well?

    I think its both.

  34. mbplekfan says:

    Max’s problem is that he cant seem to find what kind of player he wants to be.  Its pretty obvious by now that he lacks the puck skills to be an everyday center, but I think he might have the right tools to succeed as a 3rd or 4th line winger.

    Im not ready to give up on him just yet because I see glimpses of the player he could be. If he shuts his mouth and concentrates on playing hockey I think he will be far more effective. I would pencil him in for shuttle duty between the two bottom lines with him earning his ice time on a game by game basis.

    That being said, if Eller and or Endqvist pass him on the depth chart he starts to look like trade bait by November.

  35. ed lopaz says:

    I wanted to reply to some posts from this morning re: Max Lapierre;

    because I think there is a bigger issue, and I would be interested in some feedback.

    Here’s the quote I pulled from SF ’09

    “but they’re not sure which is the real Lapierre yet”.

    And here’s the quote from Tom –

    “If his role is that he’s an agitator, and that’s what the team wants him to be, he might be a bit underpaid here.  But if his role is to be a physical bottom six checker, he’s priced accordingly with this contract.

    What’s the connection between the 2?

    We don’t know who Max Lapierre truly is, yet.

    Now, if you’re running a business, and you hire someone, who’s responsibility is it to define the employee’s role?

    Isn’t it your responsibility – the owner, or the manager, or in this case, the Habs / JM?

    Max will be a good NHL player one day; effective and productive.

    But, it is very likely NOT with the Habs – because he can’t “find himself” in this organisation, and the organisation is also letting him down.

    Max is big, he’s fast, he’s agressive and he has good hands.

    I believe that the player MUST GIVE THE EFFORT FIRST AND FOREMOST; but,

    The organisation, it is equally true, MUST GIVE THE DIRECTION to its employees, to maximise the return.

    Hate to say it, but I think the Habs are lacking this area.

    Its part of the “professional development” discussions we’ve had.

     

     

  36. JD_ says:

    Friggin Goldenberg.

    Wasn’t that the commercially underwhelming albeit critically acclaimed Paul Giamatti vehicle?

  37. bwoar says:

    No, those are not good ideas.  Please don’t troll the Price brigade, we’d like this endless war to end.  And for ice cream to be all chocolate all the time, it seems.

  38. bwoar says:

    Awesome, let’s bring him to Montreal.  No Code!

  39. pic1983 says:

    The haters dont understand how business works or how to motivate people…they just hate.

    I cant believe how many people are suggesting to low-ball price, if we lowball him, we might as well have traded him.

  40. D Alcorn says:

    Sportsnet.ca reporting that Montréal has signed JT Wyman on a two-way deal.

    Hamilton ?

    ALWAYS Habs –
    Dave Mex

  41. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Can’t we all just get along in here?

     

    We R all Habs fans, well most of us R anyway.

     

    Let’s support all of our players & support them more when they slump…

     

    I’ll be the first to extend the Olive Branch ….

  42. Danno says:

    Agreed. And that’s why I think this will happen…

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  43. bwoar says:

    If I were Carey Price, I’d be arguing Gauthier’s side.  i.e. if the kid is going to develop into a star, and management thinks he will, (or why are we here?) then in his shoes I’d be asking:

     

    2

    2.5

    2.7

    3.2

    The cap hit is only 2.6 and if he plays as projected in years 3 & 4 it’s a good bargain for Montreal & a decent salary over that period for Price.

  44. Rugger says:

    Haven’t seen any discussion on responsability yet, but probably tied to the ethnic civil wars that have plagued the area for some time as opposed to an international group.

  45. kempie says:

    But that seems fair. Not at all a lowball offer. If Halak is the second coming of whoever, and Price has yet to put together a full winning season plus playoffs, then that seems about fair. It’s an amount that pays him based on what he’s shown at the NHL level so far and takes into account that he has potential and he’ll be the starter. Bottom line is that Price’s big payday hasn’t arrived yet. I hope PG and Price see it the same way.

  46. Storm Man says:

    Go read your posts. You always act like a donkey on here.

  47. bwoar says:

    The Carrie Fisher reference was aces.  And I think Lapierre realizes right this second he is just glorified spare parts.

  48. Slovak says:

    Well this time I was talking about Price… maybe you are too sensitive… or whatever you are

  49. Mattyleg says:

    I’m glad to see Lappy staying. And I’m glad he didn’t go for any arbitration or holdout. I have a feeling that he just wanted to be a goddamn Hab. I’m sure that’s probably the case with a lot of players, but they are handcuffed to their agents who will fill their heads with bullspit about their “market worth”. Good on Lappy. Let’s get him producing on the 3rd or 4th line, and he’ll be a real asset.

    Like we’ve said before on here, the team always played better with 4 lines rolling.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  50. Danno says:

    We’d be getting him at about 1/2 Price compared to Halak! :0)

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  51. G-Man says:

    Can’t wait for Lats to score his 30 this season. And next season. Maybe then you’ll realize he was yet another mis-managed asset that is a goal-scorer and not “just” a hitter.

    Watch while AK and his $3.25 mil floats through October and November.

  52. andrewberkshire says:

    Good contract for Lapierre, he gets a small raise for his effort during the playoffs and to show faith in his abilities, but contracts are ALWAYS awarded for regular season play. That’s why Joe Thornton makes 7 million a year. In the end Lapierre’s regular season was a big step back from him personally, so the Canadiens will give him a chance to earn a better contract next season.

  53. kempie says:

    I like that.

  54. G-Man says:

    Habs vs. Chi in the last game of the season.1970?

  55. Storm Man says:

    My life is great yours im not sure about as all you do on here is cry about your mancrush.

  56. G-Man says:

    $2 to $2.5 mil for a goalie that has regressed is plenty.

  57. RGM says:

    $1M?!? Do you want him to walk as soon as he contractually can? You don’t treat your #1 goalie with an embarrassing offer like that.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  58. Slovak says:

    :))) ok Mr. BabyBoy – by the way what is your favouirite toy?

  59. Curtoph says:

    He has proved to be liked by management, they will pay him whatever they both agree on. This will be a fun season to watch the habs!

  60. Slovak says:

    :) I am not desperately seeking for credibility here as you do. I am just having fun.

    PS: People that have some problems in life usually say to others they need to improve their life. So whatever your life problems are I hope you will solve them soon. and if not soon than later :)

  61. kirkiswork says:

    2.75 million is wat too much for Price. 1 million is enough til he proves himself.

  62. Bugs says:

    Lapierre weighed his options well, I reckon. Either go to arbitration to get a one-year contract and hear all the bad stuff management thinks of him or DON’T go to arbitration, get a one-year contract, but avoid hearing all the bad stuff management thinks of him. If it was either/or, at least we can be sure that Lappy realizes he’s livin the dream and just doesn’t wanna hear no sh*te. I love this guy.

    Friggin Goldenberg. Now we know why Halak ran outta gas against the Flyers. Good riddance!

    Don’t understand Chicago. I mean, fellas, you’re not gonna win the Cup next year with what you lost already, so why handcuff yourselves even more by… You know what? What do I care?

    Good luck to Carrie Fisher. If she can strangle a giant slug, reckon she can take a crosscheck too.

    When’s puck-drop anyway?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  63. likehoy says:

    the comments on the youtube clip are pretty funny.

  64. punkster says:

    And $1.5M for a one year deal leaves us reasonable money to spend on our glaring deficiences on defence and forward positions, witha player or two thrown in for trades.

    FREE TIMO!

  65. Storm Man says:

    You have zero credibility on here. You need to improve your life.

  66. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Pot calling the kettle black eh?

    Your boy is gone…. Go follow him to St.Louis …

  67. punkster says:

    Never suggested we shouldn’t. What I refer to is the blind obsession with this kid. Until he proves otherwise he needs a short term deal at minimal cost to us and I hope he steps up.

    FREE TIMO!

  68. Slovak says:

    I am sorry – I know you try to think and talk like a man but you still clearly sound like a child.

    Open up and relax – there is outside world behind the one you know.

    I respect your love for Price, but you can’t force all others to love him if they see no reason.

    And if the only reason is that he is part of HABS – well that is just not enough.

    Fan of Montreal does not have to be fan of Price.

    There are always things to improve on everything you love…

  69. nick says:

    MTL needs to keep as much cap space availible as possible.

    If say MTL signs Price for 2.5-3 million per year, keep that extra cash on hand in case someone goes down, or if MTL needs rental later on.

    Your better off going into the season with a couple million in your pocket and spending it before the trade deadline than you are maxing your cap now and getting screwed over because someone gets hurt.

  70. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Clay, R U a sleep?    LOL …..

    I just trust Scotty’s hockey sense …

  71. SeriousFan09 says:

    Decent winger by our standards or PIT standards 😉

    I have a feeling the remaining cap space will be saved for the last forward to be added from the HAM roster, than just for cap wiggle room as injuries occur. They may want some extra room next season as 23 million or more comes free on the cap.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  72. Les Habitants says:

    Good to see HabsI/O is back to talking hockey

    So with the Laps signing the Habs have about $4.7 mil left. Lets say they sign Price around $2.75 mil. Then they could sign Moore for a bargain because he’s been out there for a while without any takers so he should easily sign for $1.2-$1.4 mil. I believe that gives The Habs 22 out of the 23 man roster with $0.6-$0.8 mil left for someone to make the team out of camp.

     They could also use some help on the blue line if signing Moore is not an option

     

       The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  73. Mark C says:

    “Big Stein wants an eggplant calzone. Must have one. Everybody out. Out”.

  74. TripleX says:

    So with 20 players signed and 4.7 million left in cap space what is Price looking for?

    How about a one year deal for 4.5 million?  xD

    On a serious note depending on the cap hit of Carey Price, there might actually be enough left to sign a decent winger.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE


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