Max signs

And then there was one: Carey Price

Lapierre wanted term, got one year – Richard Labbé

• RDS says Goldenberg is gone

• NHL players want Donald Fehr

• Having matched San Jose’s offer to Niklas Hjalmarsson, the Stanley Cup champions have 15 players signed and $113,400 in cap space for six more. Who’s next to go? Pierre LeBrun  thinks Brian Campbell, Patrick Sharp. And Antti Niemi is going to arbitration

• SI has a slide show on biggest NHL contracts. Scott Gomez is 13th … and they show him in a Rangers uni!

• Another SI slide show: NHL celebrity WAGs, leading off with Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood. No current Canadiens on the list, but Sheldon Souray and Valeri Bure make it

Shout-out to Kevin van Steendelaar for finding this hilarious video from Wayne Gretzky’s golf tournament

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308 Comments

  1. ed lopaz says:

    If I’m Price’s agent, I know my client will be the # 1 goalie for the Habs this coming season.

    I call up the Habs and ask them for the best 1 year deal I can have.

    Period.

    If I get 1.5, or 1.75, 2.0 million – I take it and sign it.

    Then I come to camp in the best shape of my life.

    I let everyone in the media know how hard I’ve trained, and how ready I am to play for the habs.

    And then I just play my tail off, and hope for the best.

    Because, the FIRST SOFT GOAL, there will be at least a few dozen clowns that will be booing.

    THE FIRST SOFT GOAL!!.

     

  2. Rugger says:

    Just read a BBC report, Uganda is blaming Somali group, since Uganda has troops on UN mission to Somalia.

  3. G-Man says:

    10-2 Chi. I tried to answer his question. Being snarky with your answer is just plain impolite. So, in that same vein: Pfffftttt!

  4. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I dunno, I’m still thinking that a 2 yr deal at that level would’ve been better for Mtl. A little bit of a sign of faith for him might have been useful, and it’s not like the cap hit is outrageous.

    Not that it’s a huge deal, but if I was imaginary GM I think I’d have added the 2nd year.

  5. WarHero says:

    I understand where you are coming from, but you can’t give longer term contracts based on 4 pts in 19 games. If Lappy can prove that he can be consistent for all 82 gmaes in the season AND have another strong playoffs then he will get his just reward :)

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  6. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lapierre still had a disasterous regular season and only saved his potential career in MTL with the playoff run. The team is not going to offer him extra money for being good for 3 playoff rounds when he checked out in the regular season. He’s getting a 1-year to make sure he can give his 100% effort during the full season, regular and playoffs. He plays well, he’ll get a better contract but you can’t afford to extend your role-players only to find out they don’t role-play for 70 games of the regular season. I say this as a guy who is a Lapierre supporter and have his player t-shirt, I like what he can do when he’s on but he has to prove he can stay on this coming season.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  7. Slovak says:

    Rangers will sign him cheap for 1 year, Gaborik wants him on team and Demitra said he won’t be playing KHL…

    Player that can perform as he does at olympics is not that bad I think, his personal problems are solved.

    He can be one of positive surprises next season just as Satan was in playoffs…

  8. TripleX says:

    I am only going but what other goalies with similar age and experience are signed for.  Market values usually will give a good indicator what a similar player will get.

    If the market value is around 1.5 million and Price gets 2 million or more, that would logically indicate he had some extra leverage.

    I preface this with the term indicates the advantage.  Price in a four year contract at 2 million would indicate PG had the advantage.  Price with a one or two year at 2 million or more indicates the Price camp had the advantage.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  9. ed lopaz says:

    exactly!!

    as long as the core is in tact, they can re-build.

     

  10. ed lopaz says:

    theres no room for demitra – habs are banking on pouliot and AK 46 to complete the top 2 lines.

    maybe the leafs should get demitra. seems like a good fit for a team looking for cheap scoring.

     

     

  11. TripleX says:

    Read the article by Arpon Basu.  I am not the only one without a brain.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  12. ed lopaz says:

    is it a good deal for the Habs when they nickle and dime their players?

    how do you think a player feels when he knows the cap is 59 million and the habs won’t budge on

    250,000, or even 500,000?

    look – don’t misunderstand, please – I have experience running a business with many employees.

    I know that managment can’t just give out raises and stay “under the cap”.

    it just troubles me, the way certain files are handled.

    I hope I’m wrong, and it would NOT be the first or the last time. :-)

    I would have been happy to see Max rewarded for an excellent playoff performance;

    afterall, how many Habs had stellar regular seasons – not many.

    it was the playoffs that separated this team from the pack – not the 8th place regular season.

    And Max was a MAJOR factor in our playoff run.

  13. smiler2729 says:

    Demitra’s done. It’s Europe or nothing for him.

  14. SLONCOLD says:

    Uhm the flyers showed you need a good goalie or you’ll lose in the finals. and the hawks showed you can win one year and then be forced to blow up your team. lets niemi play next year; niemi didn’t exactly stand out as a goalie in the playoffs. Ask the sharks and wings what mediocore goaltending got them, early exits.

    price is the best available goalie in the whole ufa and rfa pool. not signing him would be a huge mistake for the team, short and long term.

  15. Malreg says:

    If he plays like he did for the first 3/4′s of last year, then he’s a waste of a roster spot even at the league minimum, so I don’t mind them playing it safe with only a 1 year deal.

  16. Mark C says:

    I don’t think there is any way of really knowing, and frankly 2 million seems like it might be low. PG stated he wouldn’t re-sign Metro and Moore, both bottom 6 centers, and only added one in Boyd. Why didn’t Maxim’s leverage increase? Slighty different cases, but it furthers the point that roster make-up has little to do with a players leverage.

  17. Slovak says:

    Get Demitra before Rangers.

    Will be cheap and is motivated to show that he is still a great player.

    Get him for 1 year – no gamble.

    And get a real n.1 goalie man or at least someone who is able to teach children in nets :)

  18. ed lopaz says:

    Certainly the changes in GM office will be totally justified if the Habs do not have a successful season.

    re: 1 year contracts – yes. Molson wants maximum flexibility going forward, is what I believe.

     

     

  19. mbplekfan says:

    Price has leverage in a world that doesnt have goalies.  Fortunately this world has lots of goalies.

    The new reality is not fun if you are a young goalie. There are lots available and plenty of evidence to think twice before offering long term contracts to any goaltender.

    If Price doesnt like what the habs are offering he can sit without a contract or go play in Europe. At this point in time no team is going to offer up a 1st and 3rd round pick to sign Carey. The most this guy gets is 3 years at 2.5 million and that fits under our cap.

    The market for goaltenders is very soft right now and could get worse. Supply is outstripping demand and the flyers and hawks just proved that you can win with a low priced goaltender if one gets hot at the right time.

  20. andrewberkshire says:

    This whole drummed up controversy about not signing Price before trading Halak is such BS. You keep talking about competent management like you’ve ever managed anything in your life. You’re one of many who never stops bitching about how “little” we got for Halak, can you imagine what we would have got if Price was already signed? Not Eller, I can tell you that. Maybe Ben Bishop.

    It’s way more important to have leverage in trade talks than negotiations with a NON-arbitration eligible RFA goalie coming off a losing season. Use you’re brain.

  21. SlovakHab says:

    Report says it’s $900,00 for one year.

    Good deal for the Habs, I think he will outplay his contract next season.

  22. TripleX says:

    If Price receives anything at or over 2 million I think the answer will be yes he gained leverage.

    The current market for goalies his age is around 1.5 million a year, it Price gets more it is because PG made him the No.1.

    Also the term of the contract might give some indication to which side thinks they have the advantage.  Short term advantage Price.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  23. HabFanSince72 says:

    They kept all their stars.

  24. PRICEBERG1 says:

    FOR CLAY:

    All foolishness aside, if Price was in Halak’s skates, being developed slowly, would Carey  be one of the top goalies right now?

    Who knows, what if it were the other way around & Halak was rushed …

  25. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I’ve had some awfully mature wine that wasn’t made with talent or dedication.  So I completely agree with you, metaphorically.

  26. arcosenate says:

    I would grab Sharp in a second if we could make some cap room.

    That would be a great pick up.

     

  27. TripleX says:

    I agree that the Boivin “retirement” was just the first move by Geoff Molson to finally get rid of the old regime.

    It may very well have been a not so subtle warning to PG that he is on a short leash and any major blunders will be dealt with.

    Is it possible the changes some of us have wanted for so long may soon happen?  I sure hope so.

    ps Ed do you think it is at all possible Molson wants the one year contracts to give himself MAXIMUM options next season

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  28. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Laps seems to play best when he plays with linemates who bring energy as well.  TK (and Lats at times) in 08/09, Moore and Pyatt in the playoffs.  I think playing with Pyatt, and a rookie who wants to make an impact, in Eller, could work well for him.  Eller is still an unknown variable at this point, but if what the scouts et al say is true, than he could be a catalyst. Laps seems to feed off that energy.  This could actually be a dynamic third line. 

    I still for the life of me can’t figure out what is going on with Chicago, but it’s a real shame that we don’t have the cap space to take on Sharp if he’s available.  It is so strange these days.  The team that won the Cup will enter next season with a completely different roster.  Not that they are necessarily going to be way worse or anything, as that fantastic core is still there.  But it is still strange to see such significant changes to a championship team.  That’s the new NHL I guess…

  29. KenD29 says:

    And December, January, February, March and April !

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  30. Mark C says:

    “This move gave Price negotiating leverage he did not previously have.  The end result is that he on his own initiative put a long term contract with Price beyond the present cap space”.

    XXX, I’ve heard this augment from many people, but no one seems to be able to qualify just how much leverage Price gained by becoming the top goalie on the roster. I believe that if Price’s leverage has improved, its pretty much negligible, at best.

    Are we to believe that the thought process in Price’s camp went from - with Halak on the roster, we’ll be happy with whatever “fair” deal we get, to now that its clear we’re the top goalie we want the moon, i.e. “beyond present cap space…long term contract,” as you state. In most contract negotiations it boils down to each sides end game. Unless an offer sheet comes, Price’s end game is to sign or hold out. Both sides understand this, with or without Halak being around the end game hasn’t changed. Management still hold the trump card and thus most of the leverage. Now, maybe the team gets restless and gives in to Price some in the end, but this idea that Halak trade as created vast amounts of leverage is wrong.

    Also, let’s not forget the flipside, if Price was signed and Halak not traded, wouldn’t PG have less leverage on the trade market to deal Halak?

     

  31. TorontoHabsFan says:

    From my point of view management kinda flubbed the Lapierre deal. If I’m reading the article right (and my french ain’t what it used to be :), he wanted to sign long term (I’m assuming 2-3 yrs) at $875k-ish, and management balked and only signed him to a 1 yr deal?

    You gotta think that even at his worst, Lapierre is worth that money. If he has a decent season next year his price will undoubtedly go up. At the end of the day it’s not a huge flub, but a flub nonetheless.

     

    (annnnd now let’s wait for tony/callyjo to start screaming how this is the worstest thing ever!!1!!)

  32. likehoy says:

    dedication comes from maturing as an individual.

    maturing isn’t just going through puberty

  33. Bugs says:

    He’s got to be more of a prig, I say. He’s good and dirty, don’t get me wrong, but he could be MORE dirty.

    And if he pops 7-10 more goals this year, he doesn’t have to drop’em more’n twice all year and I’ll be a delighted camper. Deeee-lighted. May he be dirty and hateful and drive the usual suspects on this site into paroxysms of bashing only to be proven shamefully wrong when it counts the most to his heart’s content.

    Because that’s funny to me.

    Goooo, Lappy!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  34. ed lopaz says:

    Molson is ALL OVER THIS, from A to Z – I mean the Price file.

    Believe me when I tell you that Molson is an astute hockey man, and he knows very well what has transpired here.

    I met Mr. Molson at a dinner function earlier this year, just after he became the Habs owner.

    He struck me as being smart, and very determined.

    Gauthier could have easily allocated his Cap space differently, but he chose the high risk alternative.

    Unless Price has an outstanding year – around 40 wins, for example - I believe Gauthier will be moved elsewhere in the organisation – he was NOT Molson’s choice after all.

  35. pic1983 says:

    Crazy how that team just got torn apart in no time. 

    I dont know about the hjalmarsson offer sheet match though…I guess if it was any team other than san jose they wouldnt have matched.  The 1st and 3rd round picks theyd get from san jose as compensation would almost certainly be low first and third round picks, and they would be sending a tremendous asset to a direct competitor.

  36. mbplekfan says:

    If after three years mgmt and the coaching staff have not sat down with Max and talked about his role on the ice and the traits they wish to see then that indicates an organization with no clue and no direction.

    Does that sound like a team that just went to the ECF?

    Max knows his role, knows his place but hasnt been able to fulfill his potential.

    Gainey and Gauthier along with the last few coaching staffs have surely worked with Max to elevate his game. It is now up to Max to grow up, shut up and come to play everynight.

  37. nickster13 says:

    yeah they lost like half their team, it will be a different squad for sure minus the stars

  38. Bugs says:

    A cycle needs to go through more than one cycle to actually be considered a cycle. Let’s see him play like crap for one more cycle before calling way he’s “living” a cycle.

    …mature… Ain’t MATURITY makes you play better; it’s talent and dedication. Dedication comes from wisdom, not maturity. Plenty of mature donkeys out there. No wise ones.

    These guys aren’t 12-years-old, mate. They’re mature. So is Lappy.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  39. smiler2729 says:

    Man, Chicago is so screwed! But then, they did win the Stanley Cup… won’t do it again though, not for awhile unless the cheap 3rd and 4th liners they end up with excel.

  40. nickster13 says:

    lol they must be bored/clever

  41. Mr. Biter says:

    Just think, if they would have offered CP $2.5 Mil. before trading JH we’d have nothing to complain about. Thanke PG for keeping this site interesting. 

  42. SlovakHab says:

    Just for laughs:

    Best headline ever on Reuters: Tired Gay succumbs to Dix in 200 metres

  43. TripleX says:

    Arpon Basu has an interesting article on the whole Laps issue Ed as well as the Price contract.

    From what I take of it he believes PG shares the opinion of most of the HIO readers ( aside from you and I ) that Laps has yet to prove his worth.  It would seem to me that a competent management team should know what an employee is all about after three years work.

    More interesting is that he agrees with what I have been saying on the Price contract talks.  Basically PG made a tactical error in NOT signing Price before trading away Halak.  This move gave Price negotiating leverage he did not previously have.  The end result is that he on his own initiative put a long term contract with Price beyond the present cap space.  

    When the GM botches up the contract negotiations with his most valued young asset it makes you wonder about his competency in other matters.

     

    http://bit.ly/bTuXZQ

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  44. Bugs says:

    (sigh)

    You got me there, Cally.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  45. likehoy says:

    max is just suffering the ego of a hometown hero. remember when he was cut from the team after making the billboards?

    he’s living in a cycle of play well, get cocky, play like crap, then play well, then get cocky, then play like crap.

    he’s just got to mature a bit more.

  46. Mr. Biter says:

    Good post espically including cap space left. If CP goes for $2.5mil. we could get DM who i really like (and have 1-1.5 Mi. left or as there are some really good players left unsigned we may be able to finally steal someone who has yet to be signed for 2.25 mi,

  47. Bugs says:

    I just know him from Celebrity Apprentice. Big wrestler guy.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  48. ed lopaz says:

    Max’s problem is that he cant seem to find what kind of player he wants to be. 

    if you are working currently, do you tell your boss what kind of employee you will be, or does the

    boss DEFINE the role as well?

    I think its both.

  49. yathehabsrule says:

    This is something I put together, back in April, on how that all went down.

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    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  50. mbplekfan says:

    Max’s problem is that he cant seem to find what kind of player he wants to be.  Its pretty obvious by now that he lacks the puck skills to be an everyday center, but I think he might have the right tools to succeed as a 3rd or 4th line winger.

    Im not ready to give up on him just yet because I see glimpses of the player he could be. If he shuts his mouth and concentrates on playing hockey I think he will be far more effective. I would pencil him in for shuttle duty between the two bottom lines with him earning his ice time on a game by game basis.

    That being said, if Eller and or Endqvist pass him on the depth chart he starts to look like trade bait by November.

  51. ed lopaz says:

    not dishonest???

    any good GM would have waited for draft day.

    which would have given him more trade leverage.

    Gauthier blew that call very, very badly.

  52. ed lopaz says:

    I wanted to reply to some posts from this morning re: Max Lapierre;

    because I think there is a bigger issue, and I would be interested in some feedback.

    Here’s the quote I pulled from SF ’09

    “but they’re not sure which is the real Lapierre yet”.

    And here’s the quote from Tom –

    “If his role is that he’s an agitator, and that’s what the team wants him to be, he might be a bit underpaid here.  But if his role is to be a physical bottom six checker, he’s priced accordingly with this contract.

    What’s the connection between the 2?

    We don’t know who Max Lapierre truly is, yet.

    Now, if you’re running a business, and you hire someone, who’s responsibility is it to define the employee’s role?

    Isn’t it your responsibility – the owner, or the manager, or in this case, the Habs / JM?

    Max will be a good NHL player one day; effective and productive.

    But, it is very likely NOT with the Habs – because he can’t “find himself” in this organisation, and the organisation is also letting him down.

    Max is big, he’s fast, he’s agressive and he has good hands.

    I believe that the player MUST GIVE THE EFFORT FIRST AND FOREMOST; but,

    The organisation, it is equally true, MUST GIVE THE DIRECTION to its employees, to maximise the return.

    Hate to say it, but I think the Habs are lacking this area.

    Its part of the “professional development” discussions we’ve had.

     

     

  53. JD_ says:

    Friggin Goldenberg.

    Wasn’t that the commercially underwhelming albeit critically acclaimed Paul Giamatti vehicle?

  54. bwoar says:

    No, those are not good ideas.  Please don’t troll the Price brigade, we’d like this endless war to end.  And for ice cream to be all chocolate all the time, it seems.

  55. bwoar says:

    Awesome, let’s bring him to Montreal.  No Code!

  56. ed lopaz says:

    Yes – I said the organisation was “lacking” – because last year they hung Lapierre out to dry.

  57. pic1983 says:

    The haters dont understand how business works or how to motivate people…they just hate.

    I cant believe how many people are suggesting to low-ball price, if we lowball him, we might as well have traded him.

  58. D Alcorn says:

    Sportsnet.ca reporting that Montréal has signed JT Wyman on a two-way deal.

    Hamilton ?

    ALWAYS Habs -
    Dave Mex

  59. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Can’t we all just get along in here?

     

    We R all Habs fans, well most of us R anyway.

     

    Let’s support all of our players & support them more when they slump…

     

    I’ll be the first to extend the Olive Branch ….

  60. Danno says:

    Agreed. And that’s why I think this will happen…

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  61. bwoar says:

    If I were Carey Price, I’d be arguing Gauthier’s side.  i.e. if the kid is going to develop into a star, and management thinks he will, (or why are we here?) then in his shoes I’d be asking:

     

    2

    2.5

    2.7

    3.2

    The cap hit is only 2.6 and if he plays as projected in years 3 & 4 it’s a good bargain for Montreal & a decent salary over that period for Price.

  62. Rugger says:

    Haven’t seen any discussion on responsability yet, but probably tied to the ethnic civil wars that have plagued the area for some time as opposed to an international group.

  63. kempie says:

    But that seems fair. Not at all a lowball offer. If Halak is the second coming of whoever, and Price has yet to put together a full winning season plus playoffs, then that seems about fair. It’s an amount that pays him based on what he’s shown at the NHL level so far and takes into account that he has potential and he’ll be the starter. Bottom line is that Price’s big payday hasn’t arrived yet. I hope PG and Price see it the same way.

  64. Storm Man says:

    Go read your posts. You always act like a donkey on here.

  65. bwoar says:

    The Carrie Fisher reference was aces.  And I think Lapierre realizes right this second he is just glorified spare parts.

  66. Slovak says:

    Well this time I was talking about Price… maybe you are too sensitive… or whatever you are

  67. Mattyleg says:

    I’m glad to see Lappy staying. And I’m glad he didn’t go for any arbitration or holdout. I have a feeling that he just wanted to be a goddamn Hab. I’m sure that’s probably the case with a lot of players, but they are handcuffed to their agents who will fill their heads with bullspit about their “market worth”. Good on Lappy. Let’s get him producing on the 3rd or 4th line, and he’ll be a real asset.

    Like we’ve said before on here, the team always played better with 4 lines rolling.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  68. hasboon says:

    mason signed in ATL

  69. Danno says:

    We’d be getting him at about 1/2 Price compared to Halak! :0)

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  70. G-Man says:

    Can’t wait for Lats to score his 30 this season. And next season. Maybe then you’ll realize he was yet another mis-managed asset that is a goal-scorer and not “just” a hitter.

    Watch while AK and his $3.25 mil floats through October and November.

  71. andrewberkshire says:

    As always you miss the point, but I can’t say I’m surprised. I could care less that you don’t share my opinion, it’s how you state your opinion that bothers me. It’s ad nauseum, the same thing every day. Every minor move is the end of the world, and you present everything you say as inarguable fact, and call anyone who disagrees with you immature. The only reason I continue to engage you in conversation is in hoping that one day you’ll put your intelligence to good use on this site, and write some good comments for once. Nothing to do with your opinion, everything to do with your self righteous representation.

  72. andrewberkshire says:

    Good contract for Lapierre, he gets a small raise for his effort during the playoffs and to show faith in his abilities, but contracts are ALWAYS awarded for regular season play. That’s why Joe Thornton makes 7 million a year. In the end Lapierre’s regular season was a big step back from him personally, so the Canadiens will give him a chance to earn a better contract next season.

  73. Danno says:

     

     

    It should be three years…

    1st @ $1.8

    2nd @ $2.0

    3rd @ $2.2

    Of course, what will happen could be completely different than the above…

    That’s my $00.02 worth.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  74. kempie says:

    I like that.

  75. G-Man says:

    Habs vs. Chi in the last game of the season.1970?

  76. TripleX says:

    Ummmmm….. Gomez played for the Devils in 2006-2007.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  77. andrewberkshire says:

    So previous years of regular season play have no relevance to contract negotiations? Really? So because Kovalchuk had a fairly pedestrian 85 point season, he shouldn’t be pricing himself as a franchise player then right? Considering according to you, previous years make no difference, so it doesn’t matter how many times he’s scored 50.

  78. TripleX says:

    I am tired arguing with you.  You can never admit when you are wrong but just resort to thunder and bluster.

    I just pointed out an obvious error and you added the rest.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  79. andrewberkshire says:

    You’re tired of arguing with me, so you dredged up something I wrote 5 hours ago?

    And where exactly is the error? Where did I say Scott Gomez was signed after the 05-06 season? Nowhere. The problem here is that you’re so obsessed with trying to have a “gotcha!” moment that you jump to conclusions in every post you write. Scott Gomez got that contract because of how dominant he was in 05-06, and Glenn Sather’s penchant for overpaying UFA’s when they go to market in 06-07. I’m all bluster? Get over yourself.

  80. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    Your Spot on as usual. Quit feeding the trolls. They follow these tracks very well. Its a cat and mouse game and trolls wait for the bait to attack again.

  81. TripleX says:

     

    Ironic that one of the definitions for a troll is to spark an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. “you are nothing but a troll or a fanboy) with no substance or fact to back up such statements.  It is merely bluster to avoid addressing the actual point.

    Troll is the most overused and incorrectly used words on the internet.

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  82. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m a sucker for the bait, I’ll admit.

  83. andrewberkshire says:

    And here I thought you’d slunk away back into a corner after I made you look foolish again.

  84. ed lopaz says:

    Both XXX and Andrew are EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE.

    Neither one is a troll.

    Or, maybe I’m a troll, by your standards as well, since I question management.

     

  85. TripleX says:

    If someone implies that I am a troll I feel compelled to set them straight.

    Hardly slinking away just bored with you.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  86. andrewberkshire says:

    So bored that you went back throughout a bunch of posts in order to find something I said and try to be all contrary about it. You’re not bored, you’re pissed off because you keep getting shown up.

  87. Mark C says:

    Speaking of no substance or fact to back up such statements. Have you found any comps for Price yet?

  88. Clay4bc says:

    What’s the matter with you? You’re such a child.

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  89. JIMVINNY says:

    Pot, meet kettle.

  90. bwoar says:

    Game, set & match.

  91. sidhu says:

    Game, set, match.
    Point. Scott. Game over. End of game

    - Michael Scott

  92. andrewberkshire says:

    1st home game as soon as he lets in a goal, doesn’t matter if it’s soft or not.

  93. sidhu says:

    I’m not a Price hater, but I do know Montreal fans, who can be ruthless at times.  What is the over-under on when the Bell Centre crowd starts chanting “Jaro! Jaro! Jaro”?

    1st game?  15th?  60th?  Never?

  94. waisguy says:

    I hope Bell Center does not turn into Carey Price Booooo Center this year.

  95. ed lopaz says:

    HE MUST SIGN !!

    it feels like everyday that goes by, this thing is becoming
    more and more ridiculous.

  96. zak says:

    Any team could sign him to an offer sheet and the Habs would have to match it or give him up for picks.

  97. Slovak says:

    Maybe they are trying to sign Price for food and shelter. Wouldn’t it be nice due to cap space?

  98. Max_a_million says:

    It would have to be quite luxurious shelter to meet the salary minimum of $525,000

     

  99. Rugger says:

    So about $4.5M with just Carey to sighn?  Not bad at this point.

  100. Slovak says:

    Sign him for food and shelter and preserve 4.5M for ice cream for all children in Montreal.

  101. Got2BHabs says:

    Just Carey? Who took Metro/Moore’s spots? Boyd is one, but I can’t think of anyone else.

  102. yathehabsrule says:

    There’s another funny one on the Gretzky site with Hull, Mike Keenan, Barkley and others singing with the house band at one of the after parties.

     

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    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  103. Kristopher7 says:

    Hahahahaha, that video bashing facebook and twitter is classic!

  104. PRICEBERG1 says:

    The Habs saving the best for last!

    Well done Molson’s, well done ….

  105. Slovak says:

    2 practical questions:

    1.Do you think hypnosis would help in order to take out that deeply hidden potential in Mr. Price?

    2.Who should execute it?

     

  106. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Don’t U worry about it!

    You will see Carey Price’s potential this up comming season …

    We will all be saying “Halak who”?

  107. Bill J says:

    1 – I think it is your bias that needs hypnosis SLOVAK.  It is so painfully obvious you are still bitter your “boy” got traded & you are lashing out at the existing #1 Goalie like a child who had his candy taken away. 

    2 – I would be glad to execute it upon you.  I warn you now though, I have no special training in Hypnosis.  It may hurt a bit!

    3 – If your sole reason to be a Habs fan was Jaro – why not go find Blues I/O and leave us alone. 

  108. Clay4bc says:

    Don’t worry Slovak…some of us appreciate your charms. Stay here as long as you like – you are a very entertaining fellow.

    But hypnosis…truthfully, no – I don’t see it. What he needs more than anything is a mentor. A real character player who can teach him the little things he is lacking – which can be the difference between being an average player (Price now) and a great player (I hope Price in the near future).

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  109. adamkennelly says:

    Max signs – who cares.  Jarred Boll signs in Columbus – 2 years – less money than Max per year – now there’s a guy this team could use.  I still can’t believe this is the line-up Habs are going into the season with – the way it ended vs. Philly – all the injuries – the easiest line-up to play against in the league last year – can’t score 5 on 5 and PG gets rid of Metro and adds exactly zero players with NHL experience…terrific.

  110. mbplekfan says:

    Metro is an aging waiver wire pickup who found a spot with the habs when Maxwell and Lapierre failed to make the grade. He was never part of the long term plans. I welcomed his experience and determination as well as his ability to play mistake free hockey. I also recognized he was never going to provide anything more than competency and in pro sports just being OK isnt good enough.

    To be successful teams must always be looking for the diamond in the rough, if none are sitting out in the open. Eller, Endqvist, Avtsin represent the potential star to be. If one turns out to be as good as Metro in his first habs camp then we have new blood with better potential. To block one of those with the same old, same old doesnt make sense.

    Metro will still be around in November if the team needs his services for another year. Just dont confuse a journeyman minute eater with a potential top six player.

  111. Got2BHabs says:

    oops, sorry about the bold, that was a mistake.

  112. Rugger says:

    Eller’s salary is listed on Capgeek so if it is not him, his salary comes off, someone elses goes on.

  113. Got2BHabs says:

    Awesome, thanks!

  114. Max_a_million says:

    Thanks for clarifying, we were worried you were yelling at us way too early in the morning.  :)

    ”Last season we couldn’t win at home and we were losing on the road. My failure was that I couldn’t think of any place else to play.” – Harry Neale

  115. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Couple of thoughts:

    1) Looks like management should have a decent kitty to go bargain hunting in the late summer for a 1 yr deal (Ponikarovsky? Torres? Madden?)

    2) I’m looking at Chicago being way over the cap, and the Islanders being way under the floor. And Campbell, who possesses a skill set the Islanders could certainly use, is sitting just sitting there. Makes way too much sense to happen.

    3) Maybe I’m old fashioned, but in my books “blonde” doesn’t automatically mean “attractive”. On that list of WAGs I’m counting only two (Cuthbert and Milano) who are *actually* attractive :)

  116. HabFanSince72 says:

    1) Frolov.

    2) Campbell makes 7.1M for another SIX YEARS!

    3) Almost all of them are more attractive than Cuthbert.

  117. SlovakHab says:

    1. Bring back Dominic Moore?

    2. I guess they will try to move Huet first. Even to AHL or Europe if necessary.

    3. I saw more than 2 attractive blondes in the slideshow, but you’re right, not all of them were.

  118. Bob Barker says:

    What about Kournikova and Varecova? No love for the russians?

  119. yathehabsrule says:

    Man, just scrolled throught the last two pages and it seems like poor Andrew is in debate with everyone today. It’s either that, or the HIO crew are giving him a cut of their AdSense revenues. :p

     

     

     

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    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  120. ooder says:

    i know he’s on fire eh

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  121. andrewberkshire says:

    Didn’t you hear? I’m getting paid by the argument now!

  122. Slovak says:

    pssssssssssssssst just don’t say it out loud… :-)

  123. HabFanSince72 says:

    Kristi Yamaguchi!!!!

  124. Slovak says:

    How many times did you say it so far? 1? 2? 3? 4? :-)

    But nevermind let’s just hope again :-)

  125. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Halak had one good 1/2 season & playoffs. He has a long way to go to reach Roy status OK!

    Lets see how he does in the 2010/11 season Ok ….

    Halak was developed properly (Price never had that chance) & people say he was Sh!t on in Montreal… Get real ….

  126. sholi2000.com says:

    Just like when Huet was traded.  The entire world collapsed and now look.  No one could care less about him, including the team that signed him.

    They Call Me Shane

  127. Slovak says:

    I did’t say anything about Mr. H.  I was talking about Mr. P.

    Why are you so nervous? Are you scared that MR. P will blow it? Don’t be - Mr. P did blow it so many times before that it is no big deal anymore.

    Don’t worry I am real, I simply count on reality where you count on what? :-)

    I AM FOR HYPNOSIS

  128. PRICEBERG1 says:

    OH, U R real all right! A real ………

  129. Curtoph says:

    Why waste your time here if you are just a Halak fan? Pretty sure St. Louis has a site…

  130. Clay4bc says:

    What a retort…you must have stayed all night to come up with that.

    And right…Price has no room to improve…

    __________________________
    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  131. Curtoph says:

    Just saying, if you aren’t a fan of the HABS, this ain’t Halak inside/out.

  132. Clay4bc says:

    Diversity of opinion helps us grow…

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  133. Curtoph says:

    Agreed. However, first of all, I wasn’t after you and it just seems as if the user Slovak, is obviously a Halak fan, just I haven’t seen any positivity about our Habs, only negativity about Price.

  134. HabFanSince72 says:

    Here’s the really bad news.

    The next CBA might well feature a more extensive revenue sharing agreement. Essentially, you, the Canadian hockey fan, could end up subsidizing hockey in Tampa and Phoenix.

     

     

  135. TommyB says:

    Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood, that’s old news….but I had no idea Sheldon and Valeri were an item!

  136. andrewberkshire says:

    Got an extinguisher? I’m getting a little crispy…

  137. ooder says:

    at this point i would need an entire fire brigade

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  138. G-Man says:

    Kinda like bacon, eh? (Now, that’s a roundabout fat joke)

  139. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m glad we’re all in grade 2.

  140. Slovak says:

    But if you come out of an idea that he needs very very very LARGE space to develop… he needs something BIG

  141. Mark C says:

    I know Eklund is an utter joke, and only right about .0003% of the time, but he says the Habs have the best offer on the table for Filatov. If Montreal got good ol’ Nikita it might kill off half the population of HIO.

  142. ed lopaz says:

    whose spot would he take?

  143. dudurules says:

    where did you read this?  who’s this Eklund guy.. is he a meteorologist on the side?

  144. Mark C says:

    Just a rumor monger who runs a website. Haha meteorologists have a much higher batting average than him.

  145. RJB says:

    I’m a little bit surprised, that people are calling other people racist on this forum…but then again, I guess I’m not really. You’re the man Andrew! Don’t listen to these fools!

  146. dudurules says:

    and he just creates this crap outta mid air?

  147. Adam says:

    Maybe Mel Gibson is a Habs fan. If so, we could get him to post here. It’s not like he’s going to be that busy for the next little while.

  148. piche says:

    Might have already been posted… but hey Boone re WAGS… don’t forget exHAB Czerkawski… he made the list.

  149. SlovakHab says:

    Bill, I think it is better to accept this. I had the same arguments with ‘TripleX’ and ‘clay’ for a while, but it leads nowhere. Some people will not move on and will complain all the time. Others will try to find some positives as well. I guess this is just the way the people are.

  150. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Halak was lucky in Montreal. He was developed properly. He was not thrown into the fire ….

    Anything, Jaro should be thanking Montreal ….

  151. Clay4bc says:

    Is there some reason my “name” is in “quotes”…

    Because it’s really my name…

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  152. Slovak says:

    So you don’t really want Price to develop? Do you? Because if you do, you have to think about new ways how he can take out that potential because old ways did not work…:)

  153. SlovakHab says:

    I meant you, but I forgot your nickname. I used the quotes to distinguish a poster’s name. No other meaning to it.

    My point to Bill was: No need to argue about the same stuff anymore. Some people have rather pessimistic view of the Habs (management, Gomez, Price, Halak trade, Eller’s potential etc.). Some people are very optimistic. I am rather balanced (like some things, dislike others), but I don’t like it when some people here complain about the same stuff all the time. It’s like they don’t like anything about the Canadiens, which makes me ask why are they here. It makes HIO less enjoyable for me. Go to some TML blogs (or any other team) and you will find much more common sense and way more positive thoughts and constructive dialogue.

    I have already had enough of these arguments and tried to suggest the same about Bill. HIO won’t implement an ‘ignore’ function so we can skip the posters that won’t stop posting the same negativity and complaints – so the best strategy is to learn to accept this and try to respond to some other posters that we can find common opinions with. That is my way of thinking from today on.

  154. Malreg says:

    It wouldn’t change a thing for Canadian hockey fans.  They will still be very profitable, and will still spend to the cap.  It just means less money into the pockets of the Molson’s.

  155. pic1983 says:

    Molsons will just jack up ticket and concession prices to make up the difference.  Its not like montrealers arent going to pay it.

  156. HabFanSince72 says:

    But all the teams will be able to spend the cap, negating the one tiny advantage we have over all those clubs with no fans.

    And as pointed out below, the Canadian teams will just raise ticket prices.

     

  157. SeriousFan09 says:

    Large-market teams should start using that in their mailing for season tickets “Due to no one buying season tickets in the following sunbelt markets, we’re raising prices here to pay for that. Compliments of Gary Bettman.”

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  158. Clay4bc says:

    I meant to answer you last night, SlovakHab, but my keyboard went south…so here it is.

    I will stop talking about Halak when Price proves to be a better goalie than him. Simple as that. Fair enough?

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  159. PRICEBERG1 says:

    So, by November, no more Halak talk ….LOL ….

  160. SegerHabs says:

    Pretty sure that can’t happen in July and August so why not take a break from complaining about it day in and day out until they are actually playing again.

    “We’ll be back in the high life again, all the doors I closed one time will open up again. We’ll be back in the high life again, all the eyes that watched us once will smile and take us in” – Steve Winwood

  161. SlovakHab says:

    Anything’s fine with me. Even if it happens, feel free to continue. Don’t let anyone tell you what to do.

    I’ll just watch my fav team and will discuss the current players, because that’s what I enjoy the most.

  162. Clay4bc says:

    Let’s all hope so Priceberg. Regardless of my bias towards the better goalie, I hope as much as anyone here that Price succeeds. That is, if he signs.

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  163. Clay4bc says:

    Wow, thanks. I can sleep better now that I have your permission. I will also watch my favourite team, and discuss the players – past and present…because what are the Montreal Canadiens without their history? Columbus, that’s what.

    18 years and counting…

    What a stupid trade…

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  164. HabFanSince72 says:

    But the issue here isn’t Price versus Halak. It is, as Oscar Wilde said, tedious versus charming.

  165. Clay4bc says:

    No thanks, junior…how about I don’t, and you can pretend I did.

    BTW…my name is Clay…care to introduce yourself before you wade into the fray? Or do you just like to take pot shots.

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  166. Rugger says:

    If Toe Blake had communicated more with Plante, maybe we would have won even more cups in the 60′s.  I’m sure that is the reason the window opened for the Leafs in 1967.

  167. Clay4bc says:

    为什么告诉我
    呢?

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  168. SegerHabs says:

    Hard to “pretend” when you are plastered all over the message board with the same post over and over. Very tiresome scrolling past your avatar. It is one thing to scroll past all the trolls but you’re seemingly a hard-core fan…that just won’t talk about anything except the trade.

    You said you would stop complaing when Price proved he was the better goalie…well that can’t happen today or tomorrow…why not discuss something else?

  169. Clay4bc says:

    Ok…but just because you said so.

    How about that Laps signing? Personally, I would rather have had Moore…

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  170. SegerHabs says:

    I agree with you. When Moore was a leaf, as much as I hated to admit it, I always respected that he was flat out whenever he was on the ice. I was very excited when I seen they had traded for him.

    Realistically, the organization would never be able to choose Moore over Lapierre. I accept that.

    However, for 900 000 if we get the Lapierre that played this past playoffs and the 08-09 season, and not the injury rehabilitating Lapiere of this regular season, he should offer a great bang for the buck. If he does have a great season, then the Habs have lots of cap space to offer him a raise of 6 or 700 000 for 2-3 years.   

  171. TorontoHabsFan says:

    1) I think I’d like Frolov. Lebrun was pointing out that last year he had his worst season with 19 goals. BUT those numbers were put up while on the 3rd line. He’d be an upgrade for sure for a lot of teams. Of course we’d have to move salary to get him. I don’t think he’ll go for a bargain 1 yr deal, not with the KHL a viable option.

    2) Yeah, I still think NYI could use him (he’s not a bad D man, it’s just taht Keith and Seabrook are better)

    3) A chacun son gout I guess :D

  172. Slovak says:

    :) thanks… I am just having fun (little off main topics here I know :) but some poeple here are so serious moreover they seriously hope for 3 or 4rd time that Price will be better goalie by a whip of a magic stick.

    By the way do you think Auld is that mentor type? I doub’t it so I am all for hypnosis – it is cheap so it won’t hurt cap space and it is fast – so Mr. P can really upgrade in a while :)

    PS: Seriously I think Price is overrated, he is not natural hardworker and as you see his talent alone is simply not enough…

  173. Clay4bc says:

    Slovak, you know I agree with your opinion on Price…and no (NO!!!), Auld is not the man to mentor him.

    However, Gionta may be…he is that type of player and man.

    Either way, it’s up to Price now…time to put up or shut up.

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  174. PRICEBERG1 says:

    “he is not natural hardworker

    How in the blue hell do U know that? What, from the Montreal media. Do U believe everything U hear?

    It’s time to move on ….

  175. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yea, a lot of people coast into the top 10 of the NHL draft because they’re lazy players.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  176. TorontoHabsFan says:

    PS: Seriously I think Price is overrated, he is not natural hardworker…

     

    Hear that sound? That’s the sound of your credibility flying out the window :)

  177. Clay4bc says:

    Come on SF…we alone have 3 of them…Price, Pouliot, and Andrei K.

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  178. Slovak says:

    I like flying

  179. SeriousFan09 says:

    Forwards play a much more limited time coming up in the game while a goalie plays 60 minutes each game, laziness with those guys gets exposed much quicker. Pouliot and AK have had various medical/personal issues disrupt their NHL careers as well.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  180. TorontoHabsFan says:

    As near as I can tell you like Slovakian hockey players and little else ;)

  181. pic1983 says:

    Arent there st louis blues fan boards that you can post on? Or better yet, how about you start your own halak fan board? Are you a habs fan or simply a halak fan? If you’re a habs fan, Carey Price is your starting goalie.  DEAL WITH IT, and support him like any good fan would do.  Thank you.

     

  182. deuce6 says:

    You know what? I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say they support the kid..

  183. Nina76 says:

    I could not agree with your post more…………..that’s exactly what will happen…………..He is the goalie……….the players have to score the goals……………..& work in front of him most of all get yourself dirty……go for it use the body…………….Price stay in the net not behind you sometime confuse the defence when you handle the puck……..less rebounds………….GOOD LUCK to you Price!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO HABS GO!!!!!!! I hope you sign with the Habs we are still waiting for that………..RIGHT GUYS??????

  184. zak says:

    To all Price fans out there. If he doesn,t have a great year he’ll be booed nright out of montreal because of what Jaro did last year. When that happens we’ll searching for a goalie.He,s gonna learn about playing under pressure.

  185. B says:

    Who led the Habs in power play goals last season (despite being 10th in PP TOI)?

  186. adamkennelly says:

    don’t worry about me being confused – you should look in the mirror.  no one said Metro was top 6, the point I was making is that all PG has done is taken away from last years team and has not added any proven NHL talent.  so in your mind our strategy is to look for a diamond in the rough to solve your problems, thats a great idea…maybe AK will score 50 and OB will turn into Chris Pronger…so this off season, the Habs have added….hope…that should come in handy when we are getting pounded by the Bruins, Flyers and any other team that feels like doing it since PG has not addressed the 2 most important issues this team faced – too easy to play against (i.e. zero toughness) and lack of 5 on 5 scoring.

  187. waisguy says:

    Hello everyone. I have a question. Most of us saw Shawn Belle have a few games with the big boys last year. How ready is he to make the jump to the nhl? I’d love to see him in the back end as well as he could be a physical force.

  188. ed lopaz says:

    not this year, there are about 10 defenceman ahead of him.

  189. bwoar says:

    Never, he has the hockey sense of a bag of hammers.  His skill is just good enough so that plays in the AHL aren’t too fast for him to follow, but the NHL speed is overwhleming to him. 

  190. TripleX says:

    “but contracts are ALWAYS awarded for regular season play. That’s why Joe Thornton makes 7 million a year” AndrewBerkshire

    That would explain the salary of Gomez?  Nice to know.


    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  191. andrewberkshire says:

    2005-06 + Glenn Sather = Scott Gomez’s contract.


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