Max signs

And then there was one: Carey Price

Lapierre wanted term, got one year – Richard Labbé

• RDS says Goldenberg is gone

• NHL players want Donald Fehr

• Having matched San Jose’s offer to Niklas Hjalmarsson, the Stanley Cup champions have 15 players signed and $113,400 in cap space for six more. Who’s next to go? Pierre LeBrun  thinks Brian Campbell, Patrick Sharp. And Antti Niemi is going to arbitration

• SI has a slide show on biggest NHL contracts. Scott Gomez is 13th … and they show him in a Rangers uni!

• Another SI slide show: NHL celebrity WAGs, leading off with Mike Fisher and Carrie Underwood. No current Canadiens on the list, but Sheldon Souray and Valeri Bure make it

Shout-out to Kevin van Steendelaar for finding this hilarious video from Wayne Gretzky’s golf tournament

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308 Comments

  1. Storm Man says:

    My life is great yours im not sure about as all you do on here is cry about your mancrush.

  2. TripleX says:

    Please do yourself a favor and read he entirety of the thread.  At what point does it become argumentative and childish.

    Look in the mirror, the reflection might surprise and slightly embarrass you.

    I come on HIO to state my opinion which is often diametrically in opposition to your own.  As I have mentioned to you many times Andrew that is the substance of life.  People will not always share your viewpoints but it is not a reason to become insulting.  Agree to disagree and move on.

    A difference of opinion is not a challenge to your intellect and who you might be in this world.  An exchange of ideas can be rewarding and an education for both sides if they are willing to listen.  You take it as a cage match where any opposing viewpoints must be crushed and made to grovel.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  3. G-Man says:

    $2 to $2.5 mil for a goalie that has regressed is plenty.

  4. andrewberkshire says:

    When you have to sign Plekanec by July 1st, you don’t want to wait around to get your other deals done.

    To pretend it’s as simplistic as the Halak deal being the only thing Gauthier was dealing with is a little dishonest, don’t you think?

  5. bwoar says:

    You still sum up by blaming the org and pointing to a problem with pro development.  Don’t be disingenuous, you were very clear (and by clear I mean you straddled the fence) right up until the end where you claimed the org was at fault.

  6. RGM says:

    $1M?!? Do you want him to walk as soon as he contractually can? You don’t treat your #1 goalie with an embarrassing offer like that.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  7. Slovak says:

    :))) ok Mr. BabyBoy – by the way what is your favouirite toy?

  8. Mark C says:

    Not at all, my point is management by trading Halak, gave if any at all, only a slight amount of leverage to Price. I also, believe that signing Price first and then trading Halak, could have slightly weaked PG’s trading position, among other issues. In short, no matter how PG dealt with this situation there were going to give and takes.

    Found anymore Price-like goalies who signed deals with an AAV of 1.5 million?

     

  9. Curtoph says:

    He has proved to be liked by management, they will pay him whatever they both agree on. This will be a fun season to watch the habs!

  10. Slovak says:

    :) I am not desperately seeking for credibility here as you do. I am just having fun.

    PS: People that have some problems in life usually say to others they need to improve their life. So whatever your life problems are I hope you will solve them soon. and if not soon than later :)

  11. andrewberkshire says:

    Colloquialism doesn’t equal definition. The definition of liberal has not changed, only the way uneducated ignoramuses use it has.

    Neo-conservatism will always refer to a political ideology where military force and coercion is used to exert influence in other countries under the guise of “nation building”. It’s actually a deviation from liberal concepts, which was called conservative as a scathing criticism by less aggressive liberals.

    And Pipes is just a greeaaaat resource to send people to. He’s a quack.

  12. kirkiswork says:

    2.75 million is wat too much for Price. 1 million is enough til he proves himself.

  13. joeybarrie says:

    I think price is still eligible for bonus’…So we sign him under or at 2 million a season in cap and he gets an extra million or so if he performs well. Still fits under our cap, and doesn’t cost us the farm if he still plays decent… If and when he plays to his capabilities it still costs less than Halak. Win, Win, Win…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  14. Bugs says:

    Lapierre weighed his options well, I reckon. Either go to arbitration to get a one-year contract and hear all the bad stuff management thinks of him or DON’T go to arbitration, get a one-year contract, but avoid hearing all the bad stuff management thinks of him. If it was either/or, at least we can be sure that Lappy realizes he’s livin the dream and just doesn’t wanna hear no sh*te. I love this guy.

    Friggin Goldenberg. Now we know why Halak ran outta gas against the Flyers. Good riddance!

    Don’t understand Chicago. I mean, fellas, you’re not gonna win the Cup next year with what you lost already, so why handcuff yourselves even more by… You know what? What do I care?

    Good luck to Carrie Fisher. If she can strangle a giant slug, reckon she can take a crosscheck too.

    When’s puck-drop anyway?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  15. bwoar says:

    It is not both. Sorry Ed, I like your posts but I can’t agree at all here.  Allow me the conceit of mentioning 7 years direct team-building and project management (while also being a key player doing the work.) 

    A smart manager knows what roles he needs to accomplish the goal, and sets out to find people who best fill those roles.  You seem to think that it’s up to the Habs to tell Max what kind of player to be.  Thing is, they drafted the kid originally, and at that time made a judgment on what kind of player he was.

    If the brass were asking players to change the way they play (for instance Carbo asking Gui to backcheck) then it’s setting up a failure.  If they needed a guy to backcheck, why use Latendresse, who’s never been any good at it?

    It’s the same for Lapierre.  3rd and 4th line roles are simple: agitate, don’t take dumb penalties, stay on the puck in all zones with energy and brio.  Cash in 10-15 goals (my personal opinion on 3rd line centres is 13-15 goals minimum, but that’s not necessarily how the org sees it.)  Lapierre seems like the right guy for that right role.  But after last year he’s been asked to prove it.

    Is that really such a stretch?  Why the whole mismanagement red herring?

  16. likehoy says:

    the comments on the youtube clip are pretty funny.

  17. andrewberkshire says:

    And here’s where you don’t understand what you’re quoting from wikipedia. I wasn’t belittling you, nor are you my opponent, I was questioning your experience on the matter seeing as how you seem to moan and cry about every single managerial decision the Habs have made since you’ve come onto this site. Now if you can’t take me questioning where your coming from when you make a claim, then stop being so damn argumentative because it sounds like you’re running home crying instead of standing up for yourself.

    Or in short, if you can’t handle the fire, get out of the kitchen. You love to dish it out, but when someone comes back at you all you do is try to act all proper and disengage while telling other people that they’re less than you are. Grow up.

  18. punkster says:

    And $1.5M for a one year deal leaves us reasonable money to spend on our glaring deficiences on defence and forward positions, witha player or two thrown in for trades.

    FREE TIMO!

  19. Storm Man says:

    You have zero credibility on here. You need to improve your life.

  20. ed lopaz says:

    Nice rant.

    Not even remotely close to what I said, however.

    I was very clear.

    Player – max lapierre – responsibility to work hard and produce

    Team – Habs – responsibility to define consistent, clear, expectations of player

    BOTH are responsible, not exclusively the player.

     

     

  21. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Pot calling the kettle black eh?

    Your boy is gone…. Go follow him to St.Louis …

  22. bwoar says:

    Yes, all those chances they gave him to actually DO something were so unfair!

  23. punkster says:

    Never suggested we shouldn’t. What I refer to is the blind obsession with this kid. Until he proves otherwise he needs a short term deal at minimal cost to us and I hope he steps up.

    FREE TIMO!

  24. Slovak says:

    I am sorry – I know you try to think and talk like a man but you still clearly sound like a child.

    Open up and relax - there is outside world behind the one you know.

    I respect your love for Price, but you can’t force all others to love him if they see no reason.

    And if the only reason is that he is part of HABS – well that is just not enough.

    Fan of Montreal does not have to be fan of Price.

    There are always things to improve on everything you love…

  25. nick says:

    MTL needs to keep as much cap space availible as possible.

    If say MTL signs Price for 2.5-3 million per year, keep that extra cash on hand in case someone goes down, or if MTL needs rental later on.

    Your better off going into the season with a couple million in your pocket and spending it before the trade deadline than you are maxing your cap now and getting screwed over because someone gets hurt.

  26. andrewberkshire says:

    Hahaha Pat Buchanen IS a neo-con!!! You clearly don’t have a ***ing clue what you’re talking about. And Cindy Sheehan is about as relevant as the kleenex I blow my noes into.

  27. TripleX says:

    And you seem to think the consideration that management might have actually made an error is an improbability.

    ps it is a very long thread with several sub categories

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  28. PRICEBERG1 says:

    Clay, R U a sleep?    LOL …..

    I just trust Scotty’s hockey sense …

  29. SeriousFan09 says:

    Decent winger by our standards or PIT standards ;)

    I have a feeling the remaining cap space will be saved for the last forward to be added from the HAM roster, than just for cap wiggle room as injuries occur. They may want some extra room next season as 23 million or more comes free on the cap.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  30. Les Habitants says:

    Good to see HabsI/O is back to talking hockey

    So with the Laps signing the Habs have about $4.7 mil left. Lets say they sign Price around $2.75 mil. Then they could sign Moore for a bargain because he’s been out there for a while without any takers so he should easily sign for $1.2-$1.4 mil. I believe that gives The Habs 22 out of the 23 man roster with $0.6-$0.8 mil left for someone to make the team out of camp.

     They could also use some help on the blue line if signing Moore is not an option

     

       The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  31. Mark C says:

    “Big Stein wants an eggplant calzone. Must have one. Everybody out. Out”.

  32. TripleX says:

    So with 20 players signed and 4.7 million left in cap space what is Price looking for?

    How about a one year deal for 4.5 million?  xD

    On a serious note depending on the cap hit of Carey Price, there might actually be enough left to sign a decent winger.

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  33. Mark C says:

    And here I thought your original argument was that Price gained leverage when Halak got traded. Now it is PG cant sign Price long-term because of his budgeting.

    Maybe PG doesn’t want to give Price a long-term contract or Price might not want long terms. There is so much info we don’t know.

    You write a lot about logic and supply and demand, you should also consider probability analysis. Just because management has made it appear to look like they consider Price to be the franchise, does not preclude them from considering the possibility he does not become that player.  

     

  34. Curtoph says:

    Yeah, but if it is true that he doesn’t speak any english, he might want to learn a tad of english before playing here in NA, at least enough to ask for the pass and understand the coaches.

  35. TripleX says:

    “to belittle the opponent in order to invalidate the arguments”

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  36. SeriousFan09 says:

    He’s  had only one really sharp season out of the 3 he’s had so far though, they’ve seen what he can do when he wants to compete in 08-09, 2010 playoffs but they’re not sure which is the real Lapierre yet. I think he’ll have a solid season in 10-11, It’s frustating to know these contract dramas will start again in a year, but sometimes it’s better than going “oh hell, BUY HIM OUT!!!”

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  37. andrewberkshire says:

    You have no clue what you’re talking about. The word Neo-con has been around for decades.

  38. Mattyleg says:

    Yeah, just saw that too!

    Whatever you think about him, like him or not, he was a legend.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  39. Clay4bc says:

    Scotty is not infallible…no more so than the Pope is. If he was omnipotent, he would win the cup every season. I love Bowman, but come on…

    _________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  40. smiler2729 says:

    Yeah but I liked “him” in Seinfeld.

  41. TripleX says:

    The usage of the term “neo-con” by certain factions in US politics and the underlying meanings to it is obvious to anyone willing to listen. 

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE


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