Martin Brodeur would take backup job with Habs if offered

After spending 21 seasons with the New Jersey Devils, future Hall of Fame goalie Martin Brodeur is still looking for a job for the 2014-15 campaign.

And the 42-year-old Montreal native says if the Canadiens made him an offer he’d be intersted in being the backup to Carey Price.

“If the Canadiens made me an offer, it goes without saying that I would listen to what they have to offer me,” Brodeur told the QMI  Agency.

“This is Carey Price’s team,” Brodeur added. “I would definitely still want to be the No. 1 goalie, but it wouldn’t bother me to play in only 20 to 25 games during the season if I know I’ll have fun playing within a winning team.”

Brodeur posted a 19-14-6 record with the Devils last season with a 2.51 goals-against average and .901 save percentage during the last season of a two-year, $9-million contract.

Canadiens backup Peter Budaj has one year remaining on a two-year, $2.8-million deal. The 31-year-old posted a 10-8-3 record with a 2.51 goals-against average and .909 save percentage last season, but it was rookie Dustin Tokarski who got the call in the playoffs after Price went down with a knee injury during Game 1 of the Eastern Conference final against the New York Rangers.

Tokarski’s new two-year, $1.125-million contract kicks in this season. He has a two-way deal for 2014-15, when he will make $135,000 in the American Hockey League and $550,000 if he plays in the NHL. The second season is a one-way deal worth $575,000.

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

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621 Comments

  1. zip by says:

    hope this isnt a dumb question but i cant find the answer anywhere – we know the pre-season starts sept 23 but when does the training/tryout camp begin??

    enquiring minds wish to know!

  2. adamkennelly says:

    there should be a HELL NO choice on the Brodeur survey….do the Habs really have to continue to pander to the francophone fan base that much?

    • CH Marshall says:

      For better or for worse, yes we still have to address the francophone fan base. He should go play for the Leafs…

    • alain58 says:

      It’s like 80% of their fan base duh! I am in business in an anglophone surrounding and I certainly cater to their needs, it’s common sense in business. By the way, it would be an awful idea to have Brodeur when we have Budaj and Tokarski in the wing. Even the francophones don’t like it from what I heard.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A sampling of comments from the source article, I counted 20 against vs. 10 for, and of those 10 most were the same two guys who I think were trolling hard:

      http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2014/09/04/martin-brodeur-ne-fermerait-pas-la-porte-au-canadien

      val dq2003 • il y a 5 heures
      Même pas les Devils n’en veulent plus !!!!
      s’il ne fait plus l’affaire pour les Devils avec l’équipe qu’il a passé sa carrière alors pourquoi serait-il bon pour nous ?

      Jean-François Breton • il y a 6 heures
      (…) c’est là dessus qu’il faut mettre l’argent; pas sur un gardien supplémentaire. Je suis sûr que Marc Bergevin a bien compris çà lui.

      el_kabong23 • il y a 7 heures
      Et on fait une nouvelle avec ça?

      jola123 • il y a 8 heures
      Une belle chimie s’est installée avec le CH, pouquoi brasser tout ça pour rien? Connaissant nos chiâleux habituels, à chaque fois que Price ou, Budaj ou Tokarski en perdrait une couple en ligne, ça dirait ”ouin enwêye Brodeur va montrer au jeune comment ça se gagne une game”. Brodeur n’a plus rien à prouver, il a sa place dans l’histoire, il devrait profiter de sa jeunesse pour faire autre chose, profiter de la vie et de sa famille.

      Ouonvala • il y a 9 heures
      Non merci,le CH n’a pas besoin de lui. C’est une farce , oubliez ça ! Dire qu’il y en a qui le verrait gardien no 1 , ben voyons donc !!!???

      val Luc Bardier • il y a 5 heures
      S’il est si bon, alors pourquoi les Devils ne le gardent-ils pas comme gardien numéro 2 ?

      Ouonvala Luc Bardier • il y a 6 heures
      On ne regarde pas le même hockey . Es tu sérieux ou tu veux juste basher Price ou tu hais le Ch ? N’importe quel connaisseur de hockey peut reconnaitre le talent de Price, et enlève tes oeillères.

      val Ouonvala • il y a 6 heures
      Plusieurs ici ne connaissent pas grand choses au hockey et lorsque le joueur porte un nom anglo ou Russe alors c’est automatiquement pas bon
      Que voulez-vous il y a des I…. partout.

      Normand Vallée • il y a 18 heures
      C’est normal qu’il écouterait le CH, personne ne veut de lui a ses conditions… 20-25 parties, c’est trop. 10-15 max. même encore… il a rater sa sortie…

      yulpik • il y a 20 heures
      Dommage pour Brodeur, une année de trop. Il aurait dû partir dans l’honneur au lieu de s’accrocher. Malheureusement, on restera avec le souvenir d’un hasbeen et on oubliera de parler de tous ses records dans la LNH.

      mikko999 • il y a 20 heures
      Price-Tokarski,le meilleur duo.Bye Bye Budai,on peut avoir un jeune en échange.C’est un bon deuxieme pour un équipe de l’ouest.Brodeur,je m’incline devant sa carriere,mais prends ta pension,t’as assez donné.

  3. Mats Naslund says:

    I respect Marty greatly but with Tokarski playing the way he did last season in the playoffs and with Budaj being a more than competent player over the past few seasons I would be shocked if the Habs management gave this anything more than a “Meh” before passing.

    It sure would be cool for Brodeur to end a storied career in MTL, but this isn’t a soap opera (though sometimes it may feel like it).

  4. Habilis says:

    Puck Daddy’s 10 Most Fascinating NHL Players for 14/15: http://t.co/iUjTLMLeVD

    Y’all will be interested in numero uno.

  5. 24 Cups says:

    The ones that got away – four great defensemen leave Montreal before hitting their mark.

    http://thereuschblog.com/?p=32801

    24 Cups

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Is Ron Reusch plagiarizing my stuff? He writes:

      The Canadiens defense was called the “Big Three” in the 70′s – Robinson, Savard and Lapointe. If the Carol Vadnais situation not been so seriously mishandled, today we might be referring to “The Big Four”.

      A few days previous to that I wrote:

      Un Canadien errant AUGUST 31, 2014 AT 7:28 PM

      One of many excellent players who had a nice career after being unable to crack a stacked Canadiens roster in the seventies. Rogatien Vachon, Mickey Redmond, there were so many who as a kid I found out had once been Canadiens property.

      I used to wonder what if we’d have kept him, would we have talked about a Fantastic Four instead of a Big Three.

      I shall have my factor call upon his factor.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVaslN1NiT0#t=103

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      An error found in his otherwise painfully entertaining recap of four players who ‘got away': he states that Bob Gainey needed a first-line centre after having signed Brian Gionta and Mike Cammalleri, whereas the reverse occurred. The trade with the Rangers for Scott Gomez was consummated a day or two before the July 1 signing of Squid and Gio.

      • Habfan17 says:

        That is what I thought! It was the “trigger” to get the others. Still a very bad move.

        Habfan17

      • 24 Cups says:

        Normand – Hence the battle cry of the HI/O masses that we never would be able to attract any free agents if we didn’t have an elite talent such as Gomez. Sigh.

        I’ve been on this site for eight years and the Habs are still hunting for an 1st line centre. Sigh squared.

        24 Cups

        PS – Yes, of course I know about Galchenyuk. However, right now he’s a solid 2nd line LW.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          This meme has a very solid source: Bob Gainey. He explained the acquisition of Scott Gomez as being necessary to show the rest of the league’s players that he was serious about winning, about building a competitive team, and spending money to do it. So this isn’t just something that was conjured up on HIO, but something that Bob Gainey said.

          The Scott Gomez trade was horrendous, based on faulty scouting and analysis, and poor understanding of the landscape in the salary cap era. No longer is the winner of a trade the team that gets the best player. Cost effective players are more important than the ‘best’ players now. But it isn’t HIO that rationalizes the trade by saying Gio wouldn’t have come without Scott Gomez, it’s Bob Gainey himself who said it.

          EDIT: http://blogues.lapresse.ca/lnh/2011/03/07/lechange-de-scott-gomez-disseque/

          Cammalleri a déclaré lors de son embauche qu’il était venu à Montréal entre autres parce que l’équipe avait montré son sérieux en acquérant Gomez.

          http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2013/01/13/closing-the-book-on-scott-gomez/

          Gainey claimed that without getting Gomez – who had five years and more than $30 million remaining on his monster contract – the other players might not have come to Montreal.

          “We have a player who is a No. 1 centre and without the trade, I think we wouldn’t have been able to be as aggressive or as attractive to those other players,” Gainey told reporters.

          “Gionta has a background with Gomez (with New Jersey) and he has a good reputation among the players,” Gainey added. “They know he’s a good strong player. He’s a top player in his position and depending on who he plays with, good things can happen. We hope that he can get back to 75-to-80 point seasons.”

          • 24 Cups says:

            Just one man’s opinion but Gainey missed the boat in 2003 when he failed to draft a top end prospect who could play centre.

            Years later, he missed out on Vinny and then in panic mode decided on Gomez. Even if he thought Gomez would work out, he failed to see that he had Sather in a huge cap bind but still threw in his hand to deal away a top end prospect.

            Anything that happened after that in terms of player acquisitions is pure conjecture. For me, guys such as Gionta and Cammy came to Montreal to chase big coin and long term deals. Gomez’s impact was pure rationalization.

            On a personal level, I don’t want to come across as having 20/20 hindsight. The day of the Gomez trade, I wrote Mike Boone a long letter outlining my disgust at what had just transpired. The headmaster posted it the next day as a new HI/O thread. The rest is history.

            The Gomez trade in one of the worst in Hab history. For all that Gainey might have done it’s still part of his legacy – whether it be good or bad.

            24 Cups

          • 24 Cups says:

            Normand – No offense, but what did you expect Gainey to say?

            Gainey was in a tight bind and he made a panic move. Maybe the only move he really had at the time. You also have to wonder what impact “The Ghost” had in this transaction.

            Let’s just not make it out as some grand scheme to turn the Habs around.

            24 Cups

  6. Luke says:

    Well, It’s Beer O’Clock.

    I sure hope everyone has a pleasant weekend!

  7. Dunboyne Mike says:

    If family life weren’t calling at this moment, I would be all over the discussion that escalated spectacularly from Moore-Bertuzzi to religion, mythology, OT/NT, Inquisition, synoptic gospels, Anglicans, science, belief and non-belief.

    Great exchanges, guys (Bwoar, HH, Bash, Dr Smutz, Franco, Loop, Paz), and way to keep it civil — not a given on such topics!

    [HH, is that bed-time reading or are you studying? Did you see Reza Aslan's interview on Fox News? Priceless]

  8. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Hi to all from Ireland.
    Insane week, just skimmed about 8 threads, and was thus reminded that this is a unique site!

    Special mention to all those who provided generous wardrobe tips to Mattyleg for his Ontario visit (photos, please).

    And to JBelly for this:

    “Never mind. Sign me up for the Leafs package. 82 games, $100, right? And when do I get my money?”

  9. Hobie says:

    There is real life and there is hockey life. I just laugh when posters complain about violence in hockey and try and rationalize things in an everyday type of way. Like they’d do during a meeting at the office or while registering a complaint to the police.

    These guys are running at each other and trying to to crush each other with massive hits. They punch each other in the face. Their adrenalin is going 100MPH. Their testosterone levels are through the roof. They go out and drink and party after the games. If one player knocks out another player in a fight the team goes and high fives one another in the locker room. Look at Duncan Keith last playoffs.

    Hockey players in the NHL are young, fearless and care far less about injuries, fights and checks than all of the people that whine about them here. They know the injury risks, get paid millions of dollars for it get annoyed when reporters nag them about violence in hockey.

    The NHL is fine with it, the NHLPA is fine with it but somehow people outside the game think it’s their job to step in and put a stop to it. Go away, IMO. :-)

    There’s always women’s hockey or different hockey leagues if the rough stuff in the NHL ain’t your thing. There’s also bowling, golf and poker on TV.

    So please, let’s just sit back and enjoy a nice year of Emelin and Subban trying to take people’s heads off, Prust punching people in the jaw and Don Cherry doing his thing.

    Ah, that felt good. Haven’t had a good rant in a while. Have a great weekend everybody.

  10. adamkennelly says:

    If anyone needs a good laugh – check out the tsn article about the “revamped” Maple Leafs and Nonis being excited to start the season..with his same crap or even worse team…

    • Luke says:

      I think they’ll be better this year.

      They have all but guaranteed that both Orr & McLaren will not be playing regularly. And never both at the same time. That alone improves their team.

      They have a decent top 6. Similar issue as the Habs though… no true #1 centre.

      Unless Carlyle keeps dinosauring on, they should be a better team. If he does, a big ol’ meteor is heading his way. It’s already demolished most of the Front Office.

      (‘Better’ may not mean an improved position in the standings, but they’ll be a better team. They’ll play a better brand of hockey, but a lot of teams have improved in the off season).

  11. shiram says:

    Some noise that Parenteau could not be ready for the season, related to a rib injury.
    nothing from reputable sources though.

  12. Cal says:

    For fans of the Scottish play: Bettman seeks answers.

    This runs for about 10 minutes. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

  13. howiemorenz7 says:

    Brodeur is dreaming.

    I’m betting Bergie has feelers out there on Budaj-takers, he’d love to take a million off the books and have Toke be the back-up at $550K. If one or two goalies go down in camp in the NHL, wave goodbye to Budaj.

    Maroons Suck. #7 foreva.

  14. Habilis says:

    37% of you would like to see Martin Brodeur with the Canadiens as the backup to Carey Price?

    THIRTY-SEVEN PERCENT?!? But why?

    Color me surprised. Brodeur is done, in fact he’s overdone. He has nothing left to offer an NHL team on the ice. That’s not even mentioning the fact that we have at least 4 or 5 goalies in our system who are better than him right now. So you’d be bringing him in for his name and nothing else.

    There is simply no upside to it. So why do it?

    • I wonder how much HIO member age is a factor IE everyone who voted yes is between 45-65 years of age and see it as a link to Dennis, RIP.

      I’m 43, maybe 42 not sure right now, and I voted no.

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    • franco says:

      This is a sight so rumor starved, that hypothetical question, which was answered, ‘in the if, not when.

      If such and such a babe asked you out would you go. Ya, sure….IF she asked me out I would certainly consider it.

      Does that mean you are considering in…..ya, ya…..sure….IF, I would consider it. But if I had more babes then I could handle, in his case money, I would still consider ‘IT’.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      If it’s 37% on HIO, what is it at RDS?

      Fast forward;
      Carey has a bad game or 2 or even a mini slump.
      It happens to the best.

      Then the chants.
      On Veut Bro-deur.

      Journal de Montreal jumps all over it.
      RDS and TVA interviews Pierre Karl Peladeau, a separatist Parti Quebecois elected member, and owner of Qubecor and Sun Media, and he goes on to say,
      “Les Canadiens need a French goalie – that is our heritage and tradition. British Columbia of Price almost belongs to west coast USA.”

      The summer Pots and Pans noise maker protesters find a new cause.
      They march again and chant, ” C’est quoi ca, un Price? C’est quoi ca un price? Martin! Martin! Martin! On veut Martin!

  15. bwoar says:

    The idea that there’s a ‘revenge culture’ in hockey kinda-sorta misses the point. For a lot of people, it’s just normal. Tit for tat, eye for an eye, etc. Steve Moore, eh, it’s a shame he lost his career and his health and his 10 years, but he shouldn’t have thrown the elbow in the first place.

    Pacioretty – gives Chara a cheeky little shove after the game-winning goal, he ought to expect to pay a price.

    Lucic – will probably get revenge on Weise for…. making him lose, I guess.

    It’s really mostly only here on HIO that I hear the point of view that the goon/revenge plays are unjustified and deplorable. By far the majority of people I know simply nod their head and say “he had it coming”, which is a sentiment applied to all kinds of other contexts outside of hockey without a second thought.

    So I think our society takes a pretty large serving of revenge, served piping hot, and asks for seconds. Some of our best movies are revenge / payback kinda movies. Saying that the game of hockey has a ‘revenge culture’ misses the larger picture and gives the impression it’s a sickness in the game that you can expose and cure.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      This is sure to generate some comments lol

    • Paz says:

      Thankfully, I will never accept your rationalizations.

      I expect more from myself and from the citizens around me.

      • bwoar says:

        I don’t really think it’s rational, it’s a very primitive way of thinking. Good ol’ JC supposedly turned the other cheek, which has been the recommendation on the books for long time.

        That said, if some crazies decided to go kamikaze on the WTC and thousands of people die in NYC, is the USA supposed to pretend like it doesn’t hurt? And when you grow up being sure that the response to 9/11 was justified, that SOMEONE HAS TO PAY WHEN THIS HAPPENS, then maybe it’s a much bigger picture than simply saying “I expect better of you, citizen!”

        I’m just saying that it is far too trite to say “hockey has a revenge culture, how utterly barbaric of these people” – and then walk away feeling superior, having understood precisely nothing.

        • HardHabits says:

          I’ve been studying the whole era that is the Reconquista. People could very well be in for a rude awakening as the pressure boils and push comes to shove.

          I am, how shall I say, a religious sceptic. I am hard pressed to believe that anything in the Old Testament is other than Myth. Adam for certainty. Without much reasonable doubt so too are figures like Moses, Abraham, and Noah also mythical. I have looked extensively for historical evidence and have read arguments on both sides, and the conclusion I have come to is that the JC of the synoptic gospels is also a fabrication, fiction and hence Myth.

          That being said, it is through the tenets of and in the cultural environment that is the Christianity heritage, that events and movements such as the Renaissance and the Enlightenment were able to flourish, so to, to the re-establishment of science over belief (although there are still Christians who eschew evidence)… for better or for worse. In modernity, at least, what we are as a human species has found a very noble expression (and I am saying this as an Atheist/Deist if ever there was a contradiction) in the Christian heritage, Inquisition warts and all (but I would have to add that much is also due to the Anglican/Protestant interpretation of said heritage, for it is in the Anglo culture that there exists a thriving economy, freedom of speech and the press, responsible government, due process before the law, and so forth).

          • franco says:

            As long as there are questions we cannot answer or understand, then the supernatural or belief will still be on the table.

            Science does not answer all questions and mankind does not understand the answers sometimes anyways.

            Religion like anything else is full of crazies.

            We sit in a vast universe full of wonder and pretend to be able to explain things.

            There is gravity, we know it exists, but we do not know the why.

            There could be some truth in both religion and science. Science can explain the how, but not the why.

            What is our purpose? Why do our bodies operate without our help?

            How small is small? What is smaller then an atom, where does the universe end? How can there be no end?

            Things we cannot answer, we are too limited. Why do we dream? What is death? Why were we born? We know how, but not the why?

          • HardHabits says:

            @ franco: you sound a lot like a deist. ;-) Atheism is not necessarily a belief that there is no God. Just as in Deism, the belief is that God is revealed via reason and the observation of nature rather than via revelation or supernatural manifestations. So atheism is merely not subscribing to any theology, which in reality is nothing more than mythology that is is state sanctioned.

            So yes there are mysteries. What is the smallest particle? Where does the Universe end if it has an end? When did time begin or is there no beginning? Some of these answers are not graspable because of our limited intellect, no more possible than counting to infinity. However this awe and wonder has been exploited by rulers since we organized in tribal communities. It still doesn’t negate the more than reasonable doubt, in fact the sheer lack of evidence, to conclude that the Torah, and thus the two other religions upon which it is based, is a work of fiction loosely populated with historical events and locations, not unlike any fictional novel in a historical setting.

          • bwoar says:

            Y’know I was totally gonna leave mythological beings out of my comment to Ed, but I’m glad I invoked JC because this is a cool post.

        • Bash says:

          But not nearly as trite as to offer such drivel as yours and walk away feeling superior while understanding less.

          “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

          • dr. schmutzdeker says:

            I’ll prolly take some heat for this post but, (for the most part) I enjoy reading HH’s posts and agree with them. On the other hand, I gotta say that I agree with Bash(er) totally on this one.

          • bwoar says:

            Heckuva job there. Thanks for your wisdom.

        • Loop_Garoo says:

          I had assumed that you were, when you said a primitive way of thinking, talking about the goon/revenge culture.

          There is no relation at all between hockey fights and the trade centre. Hockey fights are generally because someone got their feelings hurt, or feel they have to resort to barbarism to defend their masculinity. Even when you talk of the world trade center, the degree of evil and response to it depends on your viewpoint. ( see Derek Jensen’s “endgame” for an outstanding essay on this), but again, defending yourself from an actual threat to your family is different. I would not fight in a hockey game, I might have when I was younger, but now at 40, would be deeply ashamed of myself for acting like that. I won’t fight because someone called me a mean name, or hurt my feelings during a game, or for that matter, to defend myself. These facts don’t mean there is never a reason to fight or stand up for what is right.

          • franco says:

            Hockey is an illusion.

            If someone offered you a million dollars a year and you were big and stong enough, would you fight a few times a year for fans that pay your salary.

            The answer might be yes, no real emotion or hate, just a way to make a cool million bucks. If you could do that for a couple of years and you are not an idiot with your money you are set for life.

            If you do not believe you would be set for life, then you need to study the art of investment and compound interest.

            It is for the show, the show must go on, and if you lack the talent but are big and strong and can fill a void on a team, you may very well be happy to do it. You and the next big guy can keep each other in money as long as you keep to the code.

            Sometimes there is true emotion and things in a contact game get a little out of hand. Some players may not be as bright or mature as you might wish for.

            Look at the players of yesterday, they laugh about their on ice antics and realize, the show had to go on. The illusion maintained.

          • bwoar says:

            You are clouding things up. I’m being very specific here: the mentality that one must always take an eye for an eye is what I am talking about. I bring in the WTC because a generation of kids will have that as a touchstone, a time where people generally felt very, very right in reaching out and blasting some sand and rocks and people into just more sand and rocks. It’s a cultural mainstay that there simply are times where one must absolutely *strike back*.

            This bleeds into hockey, simple as that. That’s really all I was trying to explain – that the game itself isn’t the place to remove it from the game. You will never remove revenge goonery from the game, ever, until we have a different respect for one another in general.

            I am purposely ignoring the idea of a disproportionate response, that would add more complexity and not help communicate the simple idea I’m on about.

            Ed’s point, that he expects better of people, is quite valid, since that’s the real honest and true first step to changing the way we treat each other.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      Interesting, As many people know, I am one of the vehemently anti-goon posters here. Outside of traditional hockey circles I rarely hear things like “he had it coming”, at least not when it comes to a game. There is that sort of current that runs through much of our society though, and the issue is deeper than just hockey.

    • Luke says:

      I have in the past, and will say it again.

      I think we care more about player safety than the players and the league do.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        No truer words have been posted!
        IF the NHLPA actually cared, this would be all over

      • franco says:

        The players care, of course they care. I am sure that some players on the same team tell a guy, ‘hey settle down’, relax.

        The league cares, but they have a show to put on, and they are still unsure where the line is. You need the roughness or fan appeal could fall off, but you need there to be a line never the less.

        The fans care, (some) but I would wager most do not. They live for the mayhem. A car race without a crash…….UFC without head shots, whats the point. Football without hitting….not likely.

        Look at you tube, push a guy in a shopping care down a busy street and laugh when he crashes.

        • habcertain says:

          The game of hockey is played on the edge of intimidation, and whomever can win that battle will be the victors, and it doesn’t matter what God you pray to, or at all.

    • HardHabits says:

      Karma’s a bitch.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I’ll say again that in the olden days in the fifties when lots of dirty stuff happened when the ref wasn’t looking, maybe it made sense to have this ice-level system of justice. Nowadays, with twenty HD cameras trained on the rink at all times, none of these go unnoticed. There is no need for a goon to exact vengeance for a slash or crosscheck. All that is required is for the NHL to throw off the shackles of the Don Cherry-Mike Milbury-Colin Campbell mindset, and police itself.

      Instead of tying itself into knots about hockey plays and repeat offenders, it should clearly set the standard at hard, tough but clean play. Any stick work, any elbows or slewfoots or punches to the head or anything outside the rules, punish the offenders.

      Further, punish the teams with the players who play dirty. I understand the NHLPA for wanting to protect its members and not allowing players like Matt Cooke or Raffi Torres to bear the brunt of the discipline. What about the teams that employ them? What about the message they’re given before being sent out on the ice?

      In industry, if a workplace accident occurs, work safety inspectors will possibly find fault for an employee if he was reckless or negligent, by engaging in horseplay or removing safety guards to make his job easier. The majority of the time though the employer is also dinged, for poor training or equipment or an absent safety culture.

      If the teams that employ these repeat offenders bore some of the punishment, not just the player himself being suspended and losing his wage, the situation would change overnight. Teams would be leery of employing players like Jordin Tootoo or Patrick Kaleta, they’d be out of a job unless they proved they could keep their nose clean. The player profile of the NHL would change radically. Scorers wouldn’t be castigated so much for not going into the “dirty areas”, and fourth-line pluggers who slash and muck would have much less value.

      So yeah, set some rigid standards upon which a team loses cap space or draft picks the following season for its players being suspended for dirty play. Don’t think that will have an effect? In the seventies and eighties, bench-clearing brawls were all the rage, until the league got serious, and fined the team and suspended the coach whose player(s) left the bench to join or initiate a fight. The practice stopped immediately, Toronto’s Dave Clarkson notwithstanding.

      So the only reason there is a revenge culture is because the league allows it to endure. There is little or no revenge culture in football or rugby, certainly not compared to hockey, and not sanctioned as an acceptable, necessary part of the game by its talking heads.

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      It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • Habilis says:

        Really great points.

      • franco says:

        It is impossible to play hard and tough and be 100% clean.

        The game is full of big players, playing in a confined space, for big money.

        Hard and clean, that is exactly what Cherry says.

        But hard and clean and fast can sometimes mean close hit, on a mobile player that has to happen. You cannot take out the hitting and expect the game to grow.

        An industry is make a product for a profit and working safely is whole different arugument.

        You hit me hard, I remember and try to hit you hard, if I succeed then two players sometimes cross the line accidentally and you have a problem.

        Go watch a non body contact beer league and you will not have the same feeling….it is free. When you have fans and big ticket prices and billions of dollars on the line, you are fighting for your existence on the ice. You could be dropped from the team or not have what it takes.

        Think about it, I do not get the feeling that some experts on these sights have ever played for big money with all the pressures. The failure rate is very, very high.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Revenge is silly. Justice is important. I’m still waiting for someone to take out Chara’s knee and end his career. That would be Justice and Karma amigo.

    • punkster says:

      Tit for tat, eye for an eye.

      Explain how an elbow equals a blind side, hit from behind, resulting in a debilitating head injury…then explain how a little shove equals a devastating, fractured vertebra and concussion injury…then explain what you think the fair retribution Lucic should exact on Weise and Emelin this year…maiming, loss of a limb, maybe death as he has threatened?

      You watch way too many movies if you believe that is, and should be expected in, real life.

      It’s a freakin’ game, a sport, an entertainment.

      Release the Subbang!!!

      • Cal says:

        Wewease the Wions!!! (he wrote, making enemies of lispers everywhere)

      • bwoar says:

        Whether the response is proportionate is immaterial, punkster. The idea that “you just messed with the wrong guy”, and how that idea is used to justify revenge hits is all I’m talking about. A lot of people really believe they are protecting something. Ego, their pride, their teammates. So those people see it happen in the game of hockey, and just nod and go, “yep, that’s how she goes.”

        Hockey players themselves are champions at this kind of logic.

        I don’t always, or often, agree, but I see the same plays. I turn to my neighbour, asking “did you just see what he did? He’s gonna pay for that” and we both nod and tsk and we KNOW there will be a reckoning.

        UCE is right, the only way to stop is is for the league to absolutely forbid it. unfortunately the selling of the game to Americans (and no small number of Canadians) still hinges on violence being a feature, not a bug.

  16. Un Canadien errant says:

    Luke, I think this joke has been done before, but by now, isn’t the “Eagles tribute band” the actual Eagles?

    ———————————————————————–
    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  17. ClutchNGrab says:

    All these talks about prospects made me think of this:

    http://25stanley.com/photos/habs-partying-in-cancun

    Wow, time flies!

  18. Habs54 says:

    Are there any openings in the hockey pools mentioned last week? I couldn’t sign on to HIO but have that resolved.

    • Marek says:

      I think all 20 spots have been filled, Hobie would be the one to know for sure though

    • Hobie says:

      There are 3 spots left to be filled. There are 10 invitations still pending a response for those 3 spots. I’m losing hope those guys will respond. So if anyone is interested in the last three spots in the hockey pool…

      hiohockeypool@yahoo.com

      There are some pretty interesting HIO characters taking part so it should be interesting. It will be a very deep draft as there will be 20 teams. We’ll be getting into some fringe players where people will have to know their stuff.

      • krob1000 says:

        Hey Hobie,
        I want to take part but when is the draft? that is My biggest concern is the draft format…taht takes a few hours and I am on the ice about 10 times a week between coaching and playing so if the time works I would love to take part. Do you know when the draft is yet?

  19. Commandant says:

    Habs have too many goalies already, and Brodeur, as great as he was, looked completely washed up last year.

    At this point in his career, he really should retire. I’d honestly rather keep Tokarski.

    The Habs will either have to make a trade, keep 3 goalies, or put one of Budaj/Tokarski on Waivers (with the team eating 500,000 in cap hit if Budaj is in Hamilton) even without signing Brodeur. Joey MacDonald was also signed to be the AHL starter, and Mike Condon dominated in the ECHL and is ready to move up to the AHL.

    There simply isn’t room for Brodeur.

    Go Habs Go!

    http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      The Habs will make a goalie move once they are 100% sure that Carey Price is completely healed.

      Mcdonald is a big AHL ticket with a $300K AHL salary.
      He isn’t going anywhere

      • Commandant says:

        Price would have been ready to go if we made the Stanley Cup Finals according to all reports. It was a relatively minor injury, I don’t think that is the worry.

        Look around the league and most teams have their backup goalie in place. Hence why Brodeur and Bryzgalov are begging for jobs. Hence why the Leafs still have Reimer, and Hence why we have both Budaj and Tokarski today.

        I think the plan was to move one of them… I’m just not sure its possible. Budaj is a pretty big ticket for a backup (And the type of backup who has virtually no chance of being the starter if catastrophe happens to your number 1), he’s not that sought after, and Tokarski has played 10 NHL games.

        I’m starting to think there is no move to be made unless someone else’s goalie gets hurt. And even then they have the Bryzgalov, Brodeur, and Reimer plans as well as trading with us, so we aren’t gonna get much.

        Go Habs Go!

        http://lastwordonsports.com/

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Agreed

          Budaj has little trade value as a $1.4M ticket – that also being his AHL salary

          As for the reports that Price would have been ready, that may have been the case if ‘needles’ were involved.

          Further reports indicate that Price only started skating again last month, and stayed in Montreal until the end of June for rehab.

        • Chris says:

          Like Ronn, I’m not convinced Price was “ready to go” if the Habs made the finals. Everything that has come out this summer about his knee leads me to believe that the injury was more serious than something he could come back from with only 1-2 weeks of treatment.

          Given his importance to the club, it would have been penny-wise but pound foolish to rush Price back with a weak knee.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            Hey chris

            Elite athletes usually have ‘compete levels’ (yes, I know, some don’t like that term) that are off the charts and several others also have unbelievable pain tolerance and thresholds…sometimes medicinally aided.

            I guess we’ll never know, yet an example was Patrick after his appendectomy…

    • 24 Cups says:

      No need to even worry or think about it.

      This issue has basically been about Brodeur’s camp beating the drums and sites like HI/O generating some hits during the dog days of the season.

      Having said that, If Price couldn’t play for a prolonged period of time, my gut tells me I’d rather go with Tokarski than Brodeur. I realize that puts me in the minority but what the hell.

      24 Cups

  20. Timo says:

    How long before Front gets over his call to an indian call center?
    How much liquor will be consumed?

  21. 24 Cups says:

    I was reading down below about the concept of “Hab prospects”. This is relevant right now due to the unveiling of EOTP’s excellent series, Top 25 Under 25.

    http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/habs-top-25-under-25/2014/9/5/6094049/nathan-beaulieu-canadiens-top-25-under-25-habs-prospect-profile

    For me, you can’t be a prospect if you have played more than 100 games. Galchenyuk and Gallagher aren’t prospects, Beaulieu, Sekac and Raithby are Hab prospects.

    When I look at the Habs on the roster, I break them down into five distinct categories: building blocks (Price) , core veterans Pleks), secondary role players (Prust) cap friendly youngsters (Gallagher) and rookies (Beaulieu). I think the only prospects would be rookies that are on the team for their first or second year (as well as those that have never played NHL hockey).

    Montreal has some stellar building blocks (3) as well as another 3 or 4 solid youngsters who have yet to hit their ceiling. It’s after listing this core group that would I start rating prospects.

    24 Cups

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A couple years ago I took them to task for categorizing NHL roster players as prospects, but it was not so gently pointed out to me that they’re listing the top 25 under 25, which is a different exercise.

      I like your categories, but I think Jarred, Nathan and even Michaël Bournival can still be thought of as prospects, since they haven’t locked up a roster spot, when we compare them to Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk after the 2012 season.

      • 24 Cups says:

        We obviously don’t know the set roster yet but I would categorize the following players as still being prospects on opening night:

        Bournival – (60 (NHL games played)
        Sekac – 0
        Beaulieu – 23
        Tinordi – 30
        Tokarski – 10

        24 Cups

  22. franco says:

    Therien can answer questions in English and French.

    Therien is worth Millions.

    Therien has a sense of humor.

    How does anyone get to feel ‘superior’.

    Can you match his resume?

    Do you live in a gated community, with excess to parking under the Bell Center?

    Do you know Sidney Crosby on a first name basis.

    Can you go up the Montreal executive floor and have a chat with Beliveveau, Richard, etc? Do you have Molson’s private phone number?

    Do you live better then a king, travel the world?

    Well do you? DO YOU?

    • bwoar says:

      Reading this with absolutely no context, I can field some of these questions without undue hesitation.

      I too can answer questions in English and French, and have a sense of humour. I am not worth millions. I feel superior because I am honestly just plain better.

      Therrien absolutely could not match my resume. None of you mooks will ever come close. Most of you are has-beens and never-was’s to begin with. I’m the whole Show writ large in outer space, timed to the humming of the cosmos.

      I don’t live in a gated community anymore because I tore down too many walls.

      I bitchslap Sidney twice a month at Monopoly, which we play after I give him his dekeing lesson, which we do for fun to make up for the embarrassment of me outsquating his little girl lifts.

      I had to block Molson’s number because he kept butt-dialing me during the PK negotions.

      Without question I am a king, to my children I am also God. I don’t need to travel the world because it beats a path to my door daily. I don’t even DO things, they get done all on their own and simply ask for permission not to be undone.

      When I blink, franco, you disappear. And the universe is remade in each passing moment when my eyes reopen.

  23. Maritime Ronn says:

    Interesting how things can change so quickly for a player.

    A Swiss reporter tweeted that Raphael Diaz has received 3….Training camp tryout offers (PTO).
    The teams were not mentioned.
    These PTOs are AHL based, and guarantees a player nothing for the NHL.

    Funny, just last year before the Weise trade, Diaz was playing Top 4-5 minutes for the Habs, and before Weaver arrived, he was also Top 2-3 on the PK, and 2nd unit PP.

    • Timo says:

      What does that tell you about Mtl Canadiens management and coaching staff?

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        I dunno. What does it tell you?

      • ClutchNGrab says:

        I think it tells more about the team that acquired him, then the team that got rid of him.

        Diaz was acquired by the previous gm. The new guys come, they assess his talent and decided to trade him.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        It tells us that the management and coaching staff gave him every chance to develop until it a decision had to be made to sign him or trade him, and they made the right choice.

        Gaston Therrien on RDS was reporting last season that the team and his agent were in talks for a new deal, in the $3-4M range for 3-4 years. And I shuddered at the thought, hoped if he was signed it would be for the very low end of that range.

        From: http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/11/canadiens-raphael-diaz-negotiating-new.html

        So I hope the Canadiens tread carefully on this one, and don’t embark on another Josh Gorges contract, one which overvalues an incumbent because he fills a role on a team not due to his talent but rather due to the team’s lack of other options.

        Overall, I think we did well with Raphaël, a free agent acquired at no cost, who played decent for a while and brought back a significant asset in trade.

    • Cal says:

      I called it last year when he was traded to the Nucks that he would be back in Zug this season. You can’t play fraidy cat hockey in the NHL. There are too many players that are fearless.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        After his concussion, he did have that ‘deer in the headlights’ look when the physical tempo went up.
        To his credit, he moves the puck well and is a smart PP guy, yet to succeed, he’d have to be paired with a high end robust partner and play on a team with big wingers (LA Kings) that can protect him in the D zone.

  24. Hobie says:

    Ah, twitter is becoming useful again now that hockey is around the corner.

    Eric Engels ‏@EricEngels 10m

    What does the future hold for Galchenyuk, Plekanec, Bourque, Moen, Budaj, Tokarski?? http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eric-Engels/Whats-Next-for-the-Montreal-Canadiens/82/62125

    • shiram says:

      Not much new in that piece, though it was not a bad read.
      It seems to rehash most of what was said here over the summer.

      • Hobie says:

        Yup. I like Eric Engles. I used to get him mixed up with the other dude people are always complaining about. The trade rumor guy who’s wrong 99.9% of the time. Eklund?

      • 24 Cups says:

        Agreed.

        I also can’t see why Montreal would want to move Bourque seeing he has a cheap contract and will probably stand on his head the next 18 months so he can grab another long term deal (not necessarily with the Habs).

        24 Cups

        • shiram says:

          Tough to say with Bourque, he’s getting older and at that point, when his current deal is over will be 35, so that would be a 35+ contract.

          He’d have to go back to scoring 20 goals I would think, and I don’t know that he still has it in him.

          If he’s played on his strong side it could help, but he would also need PP time.

    • franco says:

      Hobie, is twitter free, just curious, not really into twitter etc.

      • bwoar says:

        You can only get it if you’re with Rogers, and it costs more if you want it in HD.

      • Hobie says:

        lol (bwoar), ya it’s free. If you follow all the hockey reporters, players and ex players it’s pretty cool. Especially around Free agent frenzy, trade deadline and playoffs. During hockey season you get all kinds of reports before they hit the websites and television.

        • bwoar says:

          This was the greatest, in the summer of 2012 (scroll down):
          https://twitter.com/94ExposRedux

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            My favourite is Boring Sean Monahan.

            https://twitter.com/boringmonahan

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Aug 22
            I asked Mason Raymond if he likes being called May Ray or Mason and he said he likes being called Mason.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Jul 21
            I went to use the bike today but someone forgot to wipe the seat off so I wiped it off before sitting on it.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Jul 8
            Brazil are playing against Germany today in the World Cup but they’re not winning.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Jun 30
            I asked Mark Giordano if he’s going to wear a cowboy hat during the Calgary Stampede and he said yes.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Jun 27
            I wanted to text Sam Bennett and say congrats but I don’t have his number in my phone so I’ll have to wait.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Jun 27
            Last year the draft was on Sunday but this year it’s on Friday.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · Jun 13
            The Kings have won the Stanley Cup. They didn’t win it last year but this year they did.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · May 27
            Rene Bourque used to play for Calgary but he plays for Montreal now.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · May 27
            Joe Colborne wanted to bet me a box of Raisin Bran that Montreal would win tonight. I said I don’t like raisins Joe and he said ok then.

            Boring Sean Monahan @boringmonahan · May 21
            The Blackhawks were winning the game but then the kings scored more goals so they won instead.

  25. ClutchNGrab says:

    Best all around defencemen in the NHL, nhl.com put Subban at # 5:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=729524&navid=nhl:topheads

    • shiram says:

      I feel like Chara might be a spot or two to high on there.
      But I’ll take it, any recognition Subban gets is good.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        100% agree. To have Chara ahead of Keith is pretty comical. I would have Keith higher as well as Suter and Mc D. I personally think Weber is the best

        • ClutchNGrab says:

          Not that I disagree, but it would interesting to see how Chara would perform with Seabrook (pairing partner for at least 5 years) and Keith with Hamilton (first full season).

          • Kooch7800 says:

            Chara’s foot speed is my issue with him. He is now targeted by other teams. Go back 5 years ago and I think he is one of the top defenders for sure. His foot speed has always been an issue but now players seem to target his corner and use their speed against him. You can’t do that with a Weber, Subban, Doughty etc.

            I do agree that Seabrook is underrated but I do really like Keith’s game all round.

        • Commandant says:

          I do agree that Chara is aging.

          Keith is massively overrated.

          For all the flak Subban gets for his defensive game, Keith’s defensive game leaves a lot to be desired.

          I honestly think Subban is the 2nd best all-around D in the NHL right now (Doughty #1, Pietrangelo #3, Suter #4, Weber #5)

          Go Habs Go!

          http://lastwordonsports.com/

          • Chris says:

            I would put Weber miles and miles ahead of Subban as an all-around defender. He’s better defensively, he’s more physical, more disciplined and he is a better leader. They are pretty much a wash offensively.

            If McDonagh has one more season like last year, he’s in my top 5 as well. He is so dominant defensively and his offensive production is only a little off the top guys (and actually better than Doughty).

          • Commandant says:

            Chris I don’t know that Weber is miles ahead of Subban defensively.

            Going into the Olympics last year, teams were getting less shots at the Habs net with Subban on the ice, than shots at the Preds net with Weber on the ice.

            But you’ll tell me that the Habs were a better defensive team than Nashville.

            Ok, Lets go down that road. Teams were getting more shots at the Habs net with Subban off the ice, than they were getting at the Preds net with Weber off the ice.

            In fact of all 8 Canadian defenceman… Subban was #2 on the team behind only Alex Pietrangelo in pure shot attempts against/minute of even strength played… and was #1 in net effect (shots against/minute he doesn’t play vs shots against when he does).

            Subban makes some big mistakes yes… and we focus on those for two reasons. 1) we are habs fans and watch every habs game, even those of us who watch a lot of hockey are unlikely to see 70+ games of shea weber in a season. 2) Subban is a polarizing media figure, and every error is pointed out by the media talking heads.

            His defensive game is so vastly underrated its become crazy.

            We don’t even have to go to a biased source for this. From a Canucks team blog pre-Olympics.

            http://canucksarmy.com/2014/2/17/the-reports-of-p-k-subban-s-demise-have-been-greatly-exaggerated

            As for a wash offensively, again i disagree. Subban is miles ahead of any defenceman not named Erik Karlsson at generating shot attempts on the powerplay, and again probably the second best offensive defenceman at even strength as well. Offensively Subban outshines them all, even Weber and Doughty.

            We’ve got a very, very special player here…. I don’t think the majority of fans around the NHL even realize yet quite how good PK is and the scary thing is he’s getting better.

            Go Habs Go!
            http://lastwordonsports.com/

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            I am kind of in Chris’s corner on this one, yet also realising that any ranking is subjective and in the present.
            It cannot predict the future.

            As of today and the known entities considering ALL aspects of the game – and if I had to choose a guy I would build a team around, Weber/Doughty would be tied #1.

            Keith is excellent, yet plays on a great team with an underrated partner in Seabrook.
            Suter is a known, solid entity that plays huge minutes in all aspects of the game.he will never hurt a team.

            Following that, it’s a toss up between McDonagh-Pietrangelo-Subban, and very underrated Hedman.

            As for the future, I would love to have either Jacob Trouba, Hampas Lindhold, and a young guy like Seth jones.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I like Keith Ben. Granted, I realize that Seabrook is underrated but I still think Keith is best guy in that pairing. Keith also has the benefit of a well coached and solid team in front of him but every time I see him play I really like his game.

            Weber to me is number one and I would say Doughty number#2 and Subban #3 and Suter #4. Pietrangelo has also had a benefit from Bouwmeester who is a solid defender.

            I think in a year or so Subban will be up to #2

      • ClutchNGrab says:

        The new contract will certainly help Subban in that department.

    • 24 Cups says:

      That’s a great list but the voting for Chara might be based on his past play, not where he stands right now in terms of the top half dozen Dmen in the league.

      24 Cups

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      In the article, it has Karlsson at # 6

      It states, “… No, Karlsson is not a defensive stopper in the traditional sense, but when he’s on the ice the puck is often far, far away from his own net.”

      IF the puck is so “far far away from his own net” then how do these writers account for Karlsson being Minus -15 last year – by far the worst for any Senators Dman?

      • Commandant says:

        I wouldn’t have him at #6, but this shows why plus/minus is a flawed stat yet again.

        1st) Karlsson played more minutes than any Sens defenceman, on a bad team that means the plus/minus can get inflated in the negative direction.

        2ndly) At even strength, Karlsson had a low PDO (in the 98s)… meaning that when he was on the ice last year, the Sens goaltenders had about a 2% lower save percentage than the opponents did (with Karlsson on the ice). The possession stats with Karlsson on the ice (even strength) were generally over 50%.

        Now he does have some defensive issues… he’s soft and in bad positions when he doesn’t have the puck. But that doesn’t change the fact that at even strength Karlsson is a net positive influence on the game for his team. Not a top 6 in the NHL guy (I’d likely have him around 10th), but not as bad as his +/- suggests.

        Go Habs Go!

        http://lastwordonsports.com/

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Plus-Minus is a flawed stat, yet that quote was in reference to the writers assertion that he always had the puck and it was far far aay from the net.

          Agreed that Karlsson is at best 10th, but Weber is tied for 1 with Doughty

  26. Bogie Man says:

    I live in SK, I have Sasktel as my provider. I currently get RDS, Sportsnet, City and TSN as part of my package. Am I missing any games? Do I need anything else?

    Sorry to be so confused on this..

  27. shiram says:

    Amalie BenjaminVerified account ‏@AmalieBenjamin

    Ville Leino has been invited to Bruins camp.

    If they replace one of their regulars with that guy for cap reasons, it should bode well for the Habs.

    John Scott had more goals than Leino did last season, in a similar number of games.

  28. franco says:

    Explaination: If you have Rogers and not Bell, then maybe switch to Shaw, because RDS is regional and so is TVA. Sports net is another channel you may need if you like English.

    Center ice package will have play by play by guys you hate and are homers like you and that will not do so by passs this option.

    City has many sports channels but you may or may not prefer CBC. For afternoon games not played in a leap year you may want Cogeco. However an arial may work but you must buy rabbit ears with the chrome tips. Remember chrome tips!

    Wednesday, Saturday or Sunday games may be picked up those days not designated for Tuesday and Thursday, if that is the case you may need to stream games on a FK box with the remote attachement form 2010.

    However you may want it in H.D. If that is a priority then you will need an extra 14 bucks a quarter.

    Hope this helps some of you as far as I am concerned they can stick the whole mess up there assaguys.

  29. Mattyleg says:

    Thanks for all the tips, folks!

    I have to say, though, that the LCBO site is annoying as hell.
    Searching for Ontario beers, and you get Guinness.
    Then you check product details, and when you go back, you have to reset the filter and scroll through pages you’ve already been to.

    Also, there’s no way to search the stores near you for products. You have to click the products and see if they’re available in your store.

    Seems like the Carleton Place LCBO has no interesting beer.
    The one in Hawkesbury doesn’t either.

    C’est bein compliqué leur affaire…

    And thanks Burl, but I’m way ahead of you.
    Got myself one of those micro-thongs.
    I’ll show you when we’re sitting next to each other at the summit game!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  30. shiram says:

    Interesting read on Max from NHL.com.

    It’s amusing to see EA gave him the C in their game.

    This bit was good too, on if he considers himself a goal scorer :

    “I definitely do now,” Pacioretty said. “Especially with the role I play on my team. It’s funny, but through my childhood and through high school and college I was never a goal-scorer. I was always the set-up man. Then I came to Montreal and started playing with guys who told me I have to use my shot more. A couple of coaches said the same thing. I developed some routines for improving my shot and working on my goal-scoring and it has helped a lot.”

    Pacioretty said he does not intend to analyze and assess his game based solely on his goal production, but he believes he is capable of scoring at a similar or slightly increased pace. He said he believes if he improves in other areas of his game, the numbers will take care of themselves.”

    Hard not to like a guy like that, especially when he’s scoring those goals in bunches! Always makes for exciting plays on the ice.

    • savethepuck says:

      I really like Max and I’m glad we have him. Always surprises me when someone wants to trade him for a “real power forward”. After his returns a few years ago from the Wiz shot in the ribs ( left in ambulance ), reported fractured wrist shortly after ( again missed maybe 1 game ), then resuming his career after the Chara incident, it seemed nearly unanimous on here that everyone loved this guy. The last few years a lot of critics have emerged. Strange considering he finished 4th in goals in the NHL last year.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • frontenac1 says:

        He is The Wolverine amigo.

      • shiram says:

        Sometimes it feels like no player would be good enough for the team, unless they had an excellent 2 way game, scored 50 goals/50A and won the Cup with the C on his jersey…

        • krob1000 says:

          and is 6’2″ plus , 200 lbs, gets 100 pims is born in Quebec…. hmm….seems more and more like us Hab fans can’t get over not having Beliveau anymore.

          • shiram says:

            Past successes have indeed left unattainable expectations on some.

            That said there are many fans of the Canadiens that were not around to watch Le Gros Bill, or even Lafleur, play in a Habs jersey.

      • Marc10 says:

        Hey the best player in the game gets bagged regularly for being a whiner (and he may well be…) He also happens to be a dual gold medalist, Stanley Cup Champion, captain on pretty much any team he’s played on, Canadian Athlete of the Year, a dedicated fitness fanatic, and one of the most dominant players of the last ten years. Oh and he saved his bankrupt franchise when he was drafted…

        So if he gets routinely trashed, it’s a safe bet Patches will cop it too. It’s human nature to assume the grass is greener elsewhere.

  31. Hobie says:

    Bergevin bought out Gomez because he didn’t want an albatross hanging around the Habs neck all season. He dumped Kaberle. Sent little Diaz packing for a real hockey player. He bid farewell to Gorges and Gionta to give the younger core more responsibly and to change the air in the dressing room.

    The last thing he’s going to do is bring in Brodeur as a PR stunt and disrupt the chemistry of the team.

    In year’s past, with some of the terrible GMs we’ve had, mid 90s to early 2000s, if they were still in charge, we’d have Brodeur starting this year, Koivu as team captain and Souray and Komisarek as our top two defencemen.

    Bergevin is awesome.

    • arcosenate says:

      Not only would we have signed Brodeur we would have somehow found a way to give Jersey a second round pick for him.

    • franco says:

      The Canadiens of that era, 1990’s were trapped trying to ice a team and turning a profit. They sold both the team and the Bell center for about 200 million.

      Taxes, the low Canadian dollar and rising salaries were killing them.

      An outsider came in and bought the team and it turned around.

      They could not afford Roy at 6 million plus. The fans were unaware, then and apparently now.

      • Hobie says:

        Oh absolutely. before the 1st lockout teams like the Rangers and Leafs we’re outspending the Habs by $20 million bucks. The Habs were feeling the pinch.

        I don’t believe that is the cause of Pat Roy leaving town though. That was caused by Mario Tremblay. There could have been several other players dumped before Roy if the people running the team had half a brain.

        • franco says:

          Hobie, how do explain Savard having a trade in place that was vetoed.

          Roy was the star of the team and as the best of the best he demanded a high salary.

          New York and Toronto had budgets into the the 80 million dollar range.

    • dr. schmutzdeker says:

      To Hobert – Speaking of former Devils…Sheldon Souray (of the early 2000’s era) would be one of my top dmen anytime.

      Sometimes his defensive play was a bit suspect and he was prone to being beaten defensively on occasion on a play (like PK and a number of the other best d in the league). He had some injury problems after a dirty hit from behind resulted in a broken wrist which, I believe cramped his style somewhat for the rest of his career. (Understandably, I believe he became a little sensitive re those types of hits as I saw him pound the tar out of a Leaf after receiving a similar hit to the one that broke his wrist)

      But what a list of attributes… an accurate, howitzer of a shot from the point/good offensively, hit like a Mack truck, cleared the front of the net/very physical when necessary, good first pass exiting the d zone, tough as nails, excellent scrapper, took no crap from anyone and stuck up for his team mates.(just ask Koivu amongst others)

      Sorry, but you included him in with the wrong crowd. Souray was not a part of the problem with those past maddingly, impotent Hab regimes. If anything, he was a glaring exception.

  32. Timo says:

    I woke up this morning and I feel like i need someone to explain to me what the TV options are for those who don’t live in the Habs region. Actually… throw in the options for the Habs region as well.

    • sCOTT1243 says:

      HAHA…Almost lost my coffee out of my nose!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I wanted to discuss how Louis Leblanc was a wasted pick, and how at the time and based on my scouting I wanted Chris Kreider instead.

      • Luke says:

        Well, I’ve noticed something recently, and maybe folks’ll wanna chat about this first:

        It may come as a bit of a surprise, but I think Therrien might not be a big fan of PK.

        • franco says:

          Luke, I have news for you, so please sit down. Therien is not SUPPOSED to be a fan of Subban.

          His job is to win, and win as a team. Last thing you need is a coach that is a cheer leader. Popularity is not part of the job description.

          • Luke says:

            Fwwwwwwwwwooooooooosssssssssssssh!

            Franco looks around, wondering what that noise he heard was. It seemed to be coming from right above him. Familiar and obvious as it was, he’s unable to recognize it.

            Franco, paces around his yard. Inspecting it’s sharp, clean edges, and adjusts the small wooden placard, as he does each September.

            With a satisfied “Harumph!” he resumes his morning post. Sitting vigilantly in his high-backed wicker rocking chair, a cup of tea cooling, too slowly, on the table next to him.

            He snaps his morning newspaper to attention, and waits for the sun to set.

        • Say Ash says:

          Should’ve kept Halak

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      Timo…if you are a Bell subscriber NHL Center Ice will give you many games including many Habs Games. In the NB area we have TSN and TSN2 which picks up any games the Habs play that aren’t on Center Ice. I haven’t missed a Habs game for a few years unless I chose not to watch the West Coast game…I often PVR Habs games to watch them again and see the more subtle aspects of the game.

  33. rhino514 says:

    From EOTP: ” I don’t see Beaulieu as a future All-Star defender, but I can see him as a 22+ minute defender that provides more than enough offensive value to patch over some of his defensive deficiencies”

    interesting. Tempered expectations, somewhat, no? And he is the top prospect in our system.

    • krob1000 says:

      The top “prospects” in our system are already playing and contributing. Chcuky and Gallagher are great “prospects” because they are ahead of the curve they are off that list. Subban, Eller, Patches and Price all entering their primes. Guys like Beaulieu, Tinordi, De La Rose, Scherbak, ..then you have projects like Mccarron who at the least will likely fight his way into a 4th line role and if he is your tough guy then at least you can likley play him and maybe have him score 5-10 and fight like a Moen in his better days…best case scenario he turns into a 15-20 goals guy with size.
      This without acknowledging we basically got a 1st or 2nd pick from 3 years ago ready to go in Sekac…sure he was a late bloomer but the level of interest around the league was no fluke. Then the other value guys like Gregoire, Hudon, Andrighetto, Lehkonen,etc round out the top end. But there are plenty of other solid prospects ont he back end and a handful of others ont eh fron end as well…but that is NOT a bad group. If you are ranking teams 25 and under…Montreal is right there with the best of them. Montreal’s strength lies int he fact they already have an Allstar goalie, All star dman and all star sniper in that group….and they may have more if Chcuky and Gally improve and Eller is still an untapped resource. HAbs are in great shape to be competetive and be among the top 10 for years.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Who the top prospect in our system is all depends on how you weigh the various factors involved: potential, talent, projected role in a lineup, consistency and effort versus peak production, how close he is to ‘making it’…

        I’ve had Jarred and Nathan as the best prospects in our system for a couple years now, since they were sexy first-round picks and were progressing fairly well, compared to a Louis Leblanc or a Danny Kristo.

        Nathan as the top prospect in our system I couldn’t argue against, he’s showing the AHL and NHL aren’t too much for him, so he’s close, and his flashes of skill and ability to play an offensive role are tantalizing and demonstrate he can be a top-pair defender.

        • krob1000 says:

          “how close he is to making it” is where Beauliue is IMO a sure bet this year to play 50 games plus and probably grab the bull by the horns and be a regular. Tinordi and he IMo are sure fire NHl career guys….same goes for De La Rose…seems his intellect, work ethic and sizeall but ensure he will have a lengthy career….I figure he willbe like another Lars Eller. Scherbak to me is the Chucky clone. Gregoire is a mystery to me…anxious to see how he develops. Hudon is another one. I think it is safe though overall to say MOntreal’s pospect pool and guys under 25 are as good as they have looked in the last 15-20 yers though…franchise is in very good shape.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      My hunch is much the same. Some qualms I have about Nathan:

      1) The relatively slow development, he’s not getting better by leaps and bounds. For example, the season of his draft year, he put up a 45 point season, which is the exact same total he had the previous year.

      http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=115887

      I’ve never seen anyone explain that, that he was told by the coaching staff to focus on defence, for example. It’s not that the team was significantly weaker, had lost a lot of players from one year to the next, and he couldn’t put up the points, since they actually improved their point total and won the league championship in 2011.

      The season after, he did improve his point total, but not anything eye-popping, well within what you’d expect from a player who’s one year older, and not quite what you’d wish for.

      2) His conditioning habits. He’s been reported two seasons in a row to be in poor shape at the Canadiens/Bulldogs’ camp. It seems that he’s getting this under control, reports are that he’s working hard this summer, and the brass was pleased with his progress at the development camp. But he has a long way to go, if we’re going to judge his physique during the Ice Bucket Challenge, and compare him to a Brendan Gallagher and Michaël Bournival.

      In a way, we can almost see this as a positive, that he was a dominant defenceman in junior and maybe the best Bulldogs player with a skinny-fat physique. If he finds God like Gary Roberts did, his production and play could take a quantum leap over the next two seasons.

      But yeah, I always irrationally project the best when we draft a player, and on watching him play and seeing his YouTube highlights, I had visions of Guy Lapointe dancing in my head. Now, I’d be more than happy if he turned out to be a Christian Ehrhoff.

  34. arcosenate says:

    I wouldn’t say no if the Habs asked me either. What a tired old way of looking for a job, he should have more pride than that, obviously it’s time to retire.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Woah woah woah whoah!… Let’s see what their offer actually is first…

    • franco says:

      There is no right answer. If he says ‘no’ he would not play as back up.

      It would be “who does he think he is?

      If he says no comment.

      It would be “what is he hidding? Can he not give a straight answer.

      If he says yes, if they made an offer I would listen.

      Well you know the rest.

  35. habs-hampton says:

    It’s hard to feel bad for a guy making $1.4 M a year to watch Habs games from the front row, but I DO feel bad for Budaj. He’s been a great teammate and did his best when called upon. If the team feels he’s not the guy to backup up Carey, then I’d rather see Tokarski in there than Brodeur.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Budaj played extremely well when he knew he wasn’t the # 1 with all the pressure, or when they tossed him into road games with little expectation to win.

      He pulled off some excellent road wins last year against the Rangers-Pitt, and twice against Boston…but when given the reigns or starter such as game 5 against Ottawa in the playoffs 2 years ago (6 goals against-.793SP), or when Carey went down post Olympics, he could not answer the bell.

      Don’t feel too bad for him.
      Even if he is watching the games in Hamilton, he’ll still collect $1.4M in guaranteed salary.

  36. Habfan17 says:

    I really enjoy The Sportsforecaster Essential Hockey Yearbook that previews each upcoming season. It really shows how many changes have taken place since Bergevin took over.
    Top 8 future Canadiens 2010-2011
    Avtsin
    Kristo
    Leblanc
    Nattinen
    Tinordi
    Trotter
    Webber
    White
    2011-2012 Future Canadiens
    Avtsin-fantasy future impact
    Beaulieu- top prospect
    Diaz
    Engqvist
    Kristo
    Leblanc
    Nash
    Nattinen
    Pulashaj
    Tinordi-project

    2012-2013 Future Canadiens
    Beaulieu-can’t miss
    Bennett
    Bournival
    Collberg-future fantasy impact
    Dumont
    Ellis
    Galchenyuk-top prospect
    Gallagher
    Nattinen
    Tinordi-sure fire NHLer

    2013-2014 Future Canadiens
    Beaulieu- can’t miss
    Bournival
    Bozon
    Collberg – future fantasy impact
    Dietz
    Ellis Fucale
    Hudon – sure fire NHLer
    McCarron – Project
    Thrower

    2014-2015 Future Canadiens
    Andrighetto
    Bennett
    De La Rose – Can’t miss
    Ellis
    Fucale – Top prospect
    Hudon – long term
    Lehkonen – long term
    McCarron – long term project
    Scherbak – Fantasy future impact
    Sekac – Sure fire NHLer

    So many changes! I remember Avtsin saying he wanted to be like Ovechkin! Where is he now?
    Habfan17

    • Phil C says:

      Wow, not one of those guys on the 2010-11 list are regular NHLers. I wonder if a player development staff would have made a difference for some of these kids.

    • JUST ME says:

      Thanks for all the work on that comment Habfan ! It does show how far from a sure shot everyone is when graduating from junior hockey through the draft. Yes Bergevin changed things around but it was about time cause then we would still be in the Blunden type of player era.
      It should also indicate that at the opposite we need to be patient with cases that seem different like McCarron who really really needs time . I compare him to Tinordi who took a lot of time in the minors and seems to be almost ready or to Hedman in Tampa.

      No guarantee that those new guys will make it either but fresh new hope is so welcomed !

      I am too much of a fan to be a good judge but i think that what we have now in our farm system is more promissing that the previous harvests.

      • Habfan17 says:

        You are welcome Just me and thank you!

        It does go to show, it is a very difficult job to judge which players will make it.

        I think Bergevin is on the right track!

        Habfan17

        • franco says:

          Gainey drafted Price, Subban, and Patricetty….not too shabby.

          Gautier traded for draft picks etc.

          It usually takes about 3 G.M.’s to build a team, just comes with the territory.

          Lean years, draft away….fans get restless, fire or he walks, new guy keeps building finishes low, they get a great pick, he is sent packing, only to be hired right away. Third guy continues on an gets all the credit

    • JF says:

      Your list shows that we should temper our expectations on draft day. I remember how excited we all were about prospects like Avtsin and Naatinen. Avtsin has long vanished, and Naatinen, I believe, is still in Hamilton. I’m hoping our development staff will ensure that some of the current crop of prospects make it, but it will take time.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Joonas Naattinen accepted an offer to play in Sweden, but the Canadiens made him a qualifying offer after the fact, so we still retain his rights.

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        Avtsin was always a long shot at best. Classic boom or bust pick, when the habs drafted him, they knew, he’d either be a star or, more likely, an afterthought.

    • Cal says:

      Your list demonstrates how difficult it is to make the jump from playing against boys to playing against men. Most just don’t make it.

  37. Maritime Ronn says:

    Brodeur in Montreal?
    Not a chance in the world.
    Habs are already overloaded with Goalie contracts.

    Budaj: NHL/AHL – $1.4M
    Tokarsk: AHL $135K – NHL $575K
    McDonald: AHL $ 300K – NHL $600K (that AHL $300K is big money)
    Condon: AHL $65K – NHL $692K

    This is Carey’s team, and the club doesn’t need any distractions.
    Then, what happens if Carey has an off night or 2 – or even a mini slump?
    It’s happened to the best in the past.

    Imagine if the chants started.
    On Veut Bro-duer
    On Veut Bro-deur

    Impossible?
    Not so long ago, a 2 time Cup champ Habs goalie Patrick Roy…..
    Just in case anyone forgot about the mocking Habs fans during his last Habs game
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gxlO243ztE

    • savethepuck says:

      We are also talking about a fan base that was asking for Bunny Laraque instead of Ken Dryden in the playoffs in the 70’s ( don’t remember the year ).

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I was one of those guys. Kenny would let in a softie from the boards that ultimately had no bearing on the game, but we were spoiled brats, and livid about it.

        “Faites jouez Larocque!”, we’d yell at the screen.

        When Ken Dryden retired after the 1979 Stanley Cup, his fourth in a row, we got our wish, and our fill of Michel Larocque, and Denis Héron, and Richard Sévigny.

    • franco says:

      When Roy went down with appendicts? Oh, oh….season over.

  38. Mattyleg says:

    Morning Tout Le Monde!

    I need some help:

    I’m crossing the border and braving the wilds of Ontario.
    I know.
    I’m scared too.

    I’ve heard that there is a booming microbrew industry in Ontario, but in the crazy, Bizarro world that is home of The Beer Store, does a guy buy microbrewery beer?

    I’m going to my family’s cottage on the other side of Carleton Place.

    Thanks for any info!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Thanks for posting that.
      There was no way the NHL Big Boys were going to let that get to court and open up hockey’s version of Pandora’s Box.

      You see this type of legal crap all the time.
      Delays for whatever reason.
      Looks as though the Big Boys made Moore sweat for 10 years, probably never believing he could get to the end of it and would fold long ago for a much lessor amount.

      One sentence in the story was curious:
      ” It was jarring when Montreal’s Michel Therrien spoke in the playoffs, a little ominously, about knowing where opposing players were hurt.”

      Pehaps age is catching up, yet do you remember that?

      • 24 Cups says:

        I think it was taken out of context. Therrien was basically saying he doesn’t disclose player injuries for this specific reason. No real news there in any way for any NHL team.

        24 Cups

      • Luke says:

        Why is that “jarring”?

        Everyone’s discussed this topic since the first ‘analysis’ show saw some team mention “upper” or “lower” body injuries.

        What’s ‘jarring’ is that they (pundits/media/fans) act shocked and surprised when there is a revelation of something we’ve know about for years.

        “Whaaaaaaaaaat? Some of these fights are, GASP, staged?”

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Yeah, that’s another instance of Michel Therrien’s meager public speaking skills deserting him. I forget the exact context, but it was in response to the Habs being purposefully opaque about a player injury, trying to mislead the Rangers about who would play or not play. After the game Alain Vigneault had scoffed and said he knew all along, that he had his sources too. Michel Therrien was trying to refer to that, and it came out all wrong. Taken out of context, it sounded awful.

  39. Habfan17 says:

    Good morning all!

    I have a better question, why would the Habs want Brodeur?
    I get it, the reporter asked him if he would play for the Habs, or something like that. Perhaps Brodeur encouraged the question since it seems he has not had any interest from other teams.

    His time has passed and the Habs do not need the distraction of a Brodeur farewell tour. The fact he mentioned he still wants to be the no. 1 goalie, but would accept playing around 20 games if he is on a winning team is troubling. Would he cause a problem if say Price struggled a couple of games and Brodeur played well?

    This is such a non-story! Take the hint and retire Marty, you had a great career!

    Habfan17

  40. 24 Cups says:

    For what it’s worth from Dobber’s Fantasy Hockey site.

    Jiri Sekac, Montreal Canadiens

    “Although there’s a chance the 22-year-old Czech winger won’t even crack Montreal’s opening night lineup, there’s still an argument to pick him in a sufficient deep draft, especially in a keeper league. He’s exceptionally talented, still developing, and since he didn’t get a lot of ice time in the KHL last season, his scoring won’t drop by as much as everyone else’s.

    On the other hand, Sekac had only 11 points in 62 KHL games going into last season, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the Habs conclude that he needs one year in the AHL before donning the bleu, blanc, et rouge. You’ve been warned.

    The Call: 30 points, assuming he makes the team.”

    24 Cups

    • Phil C says:

      Sekec had 28 points in 47 games last year, second on his team. He seems to have the size, hands, and puck skills for the NHL and he seems to use his teammates well, so he may benefit from playing with better players. The only question mark I have is whether or not he can handle the NHL pace in terms of speed and decision making.

    • shiram says:

      You have to wonder what kind of role he would be given if he does make the big club.
      Does he play top 6, PP?
      Those would have an effect on his production too.

  41. LTHF says:

    HELLO ALL

    Another season fast approaching, been observing the many comments over the summer. I hope Im wrong but in my opinion the Canadiens will regret not resigning Ryan White

  42. Habcouver says:

    Just the thought of Marty in a Habs jersey this season would incessantly force me to pinch myself to wake from the horrid nightmare.

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  43. Mavid ® says:

    33..and a mere 18 days till pre season..you can almost smell it now…

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  44. Un Canadien errant says:

    “If the Canadiens made me an offer, it goes without saying that I would listen to what they have to offer me,” Brodeur told the QMI Agency.

    To be fair, it does appear that a reporter asked a direct but ultimately pointless question along the lines of “Would you play in Montréal if you had the chance?” It’s not as if Martin Brodeur is campaigning to play here through the media, he’s not Terrell Owens on Twitter saying he’s available when a #1 WR gets injured during a nationally televised game. He just replied to a question posed by a reporter employed by the corporation that got its facts and priorities a little mixed up when it scooped the competition with the news that Kateri Tekakwitha was arrested in Ottawa in the late hours this week at the wheel of a rented Porsche.

    ———————————————————————–
    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      Very true, and one more thing aside from that. To hear an unemployed man state that yes, if offered a job that will pay close to a million dollars per year, he would consider taking it, should not surprise anyone, ever, anywhere.

  45. Timo says:

    I bet if HIO created one TV broadcast related thread it would beat the Ryan White thread by a mile.

  46. Timo says:

    How mighty nice of him to offer.

  47. ProHabs says:

    If the Habs sign Brodeur, the players better keep a close eye on their wives. Brodeur can be a sneaky little bugger with questionable values.

  48. Habitant in Surrey says:

    I want the final pieces of the Rogers NHL shemozzle to fall into place so I can sweep the Rogers NHL Habs Petition under the rug.

    It was all-consuming and exhausting.

    So much time lost towards the Campaign To Retire Toe Blakes Number 6 !!!

    I feel like the rabbit in Alice In Wonderland, watching My clock :)

    Cheshire (Berkshire) Cat: Oh, by the way, if you’d really like to know, he went that way.

    Alice: Who did?

    Cheshire Cat: The White (HiS) Rabbit.

    Alice: He did?

    Cheshire Cat: He did what?

    Alice: Went that way.

    Cheshire Cat: Who did?

    Alice: The White Rabbit.

    Cheshire Cat: What rabbit?

    Alice: But didn’t you just say – I mean – Oh, dear.

    Cheshire Cat: Can you stand on your head?

    Alice: Oh!

    • Ass in TO, Heart in the Forum says:

      HiS. We’ve bumped heads in the past, but I think I should acknowledge all your efforts in promoting the petition to get full coverage of the Habs season. I signed the petition to register my opinion while pessimistically thinking the corporate behemoth would not be moved and the petition would lead to nothing. How wrong I was. Bravo!

  49. habs001 says:

    If you watched all 82 games on TV last year in English and were not in Habs region the only difference this year is that the national games that were on TSN last year will be on one of the Rogers channels…Otherwise the other games will still be on CBC or Centre Ice…No change in cost….Same for English viewers in the Habs region like last year they will not need Centre Ice …French viewers in the Habs region will watch it on TVA sports and RDS..So really to only major change that is different from last year is for French viewers outside the Habs region…

  50. habs_1978 says:

    Alright, living in Alberta there was a lot of confusion as to how I was going to get all 82 games. A call to Rogers proved to be pointless, but then I tried their online chat.

    Subscribing to the french Game Centre package for 59.99 and having Sportsnet will indeed get you all 82 games. If you don’t have Sportsnet, subscribe to the full version of Game Centre will get you all 82 games as well. You DO NOT have to be a Rogers customer, you just need to create an account on their website.

    The deal guarantees no blackouts of any games outside of the Eastern region. With all of that, an account created and new subscription, all is finally well in Alberta. 34 more days to go!

    Oh, and no thanks Brodeur….we’re good in the goalie department.

    • Keener_7 says:

      Seems like we are still getting conflicting info depending on who you talk to. I just created a Rogers account and entered the live chat. I was told that they don’t know the pricing yet since the service is not yet launched!
      When I asked if it would be available to everyone, she said “to all Rogers customers, yes”

      I’m starting to become disillusioned!

      • habs_1978 says:

        Well I made him send me all the information with the pricing included. And he quoted 59.99 for the french package, 180.00 for the full package before October 18, or 200.00 after.

        I had no issue creating an account and subscribing. I think it’s just so new that some people know, and others don’t. Hence why I went to the chat help after getting off the phone with a Rogers employee.

        And no you don’t have to be a Rogers customer. Rogers employees seem to be daft.

  51. New says:

    The Habs games are all being broadcast. The issue is whether people somewhere will be allowed to view the games. A valid option is not to watch at all. You’re all getting yourselves worked up about nothing. Watching is fun but it has no effect on the outcome and frankly 90% of the time the broadcast itself has nothing to do with the game being played on the screen. So mainly you’re watching, waiting for something to happen. The interesting stuff makes the sports news anyway.

    You guys keep jumping at the carrots they dangle and eventually you’ll just be paying more for a carrot you don’t even like the taste of. Don’t watch. ( I’ll watch and let you know if anything important happens :-)

    Remember you’re dealing with service providers that take a HD digital signal and then sell you the degraded analog signal, then digital, then compressed HD. These guys aren’t a public service, they exist to milk you. Don’t watch.

    Now if the Canadiens let Tokarski go for nothing and sign Brodeur for a year I`ll only watch the 2015 draft. It is like a spoiler alert in September. Don`t watch, wait for QMI to tell you who won – then check a couple days later after the game is actually played.

    Remember 11 Oct 1952 was the first televised NHL game (Montreal and Detroit) so you have the power to make 11 October 2014 (Flyers and Canadiens TVA Sports and City) the first one not watched.

    Don`t watch.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …and, as a 5 year old knee high to a grasshopper child I watched that first magical Montreal vs Detroit game in all it’s snowy black and white glory.

      I am fighting tooth and tong to be able to watch every other Habs’ game too until they burn My ashes and spread them on the warm waters off the coast of Bali.

      Until that happens, …DON’T MESS WITH MY HABS BETTMAN !!! :(
      _____________________________________________________

      Please read and sign the Rogers NHL Habs Petition at; http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

    • HabinBurlington says:

      May sound weird, but as a Habs fan I find it enjoyable to watch the games. I guess I could just look at box scores apply analytics and get the same feel knowing exactly how the game played out.

    • Phil C says:

      “A valid option is not to watch at all.”

      That’s just crazy talk.

  52. Sportfan says:

    The Packers have a player called Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, his first name is actually HA HA….

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  53. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On ® says:

    We DO make a difference! I think that the petition should continue until ALL Canadian teams have all 82 games available to their fans, regardless of where in the country they live, both on TV and radio, in the best quality available.

  54. Marc10 says:

    Thanks, but no thanks.

    There was a time and place to join the Habs. Now is not that time.

    Happy retirement Martin F.

    • New says:

      The Canadiens could use Marty to take that torch from Guy now that Danny is gone. Would be the first time he’s been close to hot since Avery flummoxed him into history by simply waving his hands.

  55. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On ® says:

    Yeah but would he be willing to take $1 million or less?

  56. Mavid ® says:

    sooo who is sitting where..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  57. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Slow day.

    Hey what about the broadcasting deal? Lol

  58. 24 Cups says:

    Repost – Can players no longer retire with grace the way Jean Beliveau did decades ago?

    Brodeur has made 82M during the life of his NHL career. He holds most of the goaltending records and has Stanley Cup rings as well as other awards. He is unquestionably one of the top five goalies of all time. Yet he can’t find the class to know and admit when his time is done.

    How sad.

    24 Cups

    • Hobie says:

      You become addicted to fame. When it starts to get taken away from you it can be a hard thing to handle. Plus he loves playing hockey.

      He’ll always be famous around hockey circles but I’m guessing he’s having a hard time fading off into the sunset. Less reporters are chasing after him and his teammates are treating him a bit differently. He probably wants to come to Montreal and have a media explosion surround him one more time.

      Like you said, some handle it better than others.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree Steve, the fact he is now pinpointing a franchise that has a star goalie, 2 capable backups but just so happens to be in his home province reeks of desperation. I think Marty is one of the best ever, I respect huge his career, but he would be a huge distraction and he knows it. He has zero interest in helping Montreal win a Cup, but rather help himself get a job. He has every right to do so, I just have no interest in the Habs granting him his sudden urge to come home when convenient to Marty.

    • rhino514 says:

      Maybe, like many athletes facing retirement, he just doesn´t know what to do after hockey? This is something many athletes struggle with and I understand that. Maybe he´s not doing it for the money. If he wants to play, and doesn´t hurt his team, why not? He´s accepting of playing a back up role, nothing wrong with that.

  59. Habitant in Surrey says:

    To You here saying the Rogers NHL Habs Petition had ‘zero’ to do with the rash of frantic announcements extending access to Habs’ games west of Quebec; —y’all Yourselves have ‘zero’ idea of all the other things happening in parallel to The Petition behind the scenes.

    It still is not resolved to My personal satisfaction. Until it is The Petition will persist.

    But to those that say Rogers making the numerous concessions specific for Habs Fans have nothing to do with Our outcry is, frankly, blind and thankless.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      To me, having the insipid Gary Bettman and, bizarrely, Brian Mulroney as muscle to support the Sportsnet announcement, and that it happened as a press conference rather than just a release, is evidence enough that there’s been a reaction to the backlash. And seeing the headline that Gary Bettman is very pleased, or whatever garbage he spouted (I refuse to watch the video), with TVA is just more of his ‘management’ style, to obstinately stick with a wrong decision and deny, deny, deny. Like when he was “extremely comfortable” with the decision to let Zdeno Chara completely off the hook after his mugging of Max Pacioretty. No that sound you’re hearing is the sound of furious backpedaling.

      Gary Bettman chased the money by handing over the French TV rights to TVA rather than the quality service offered by RDS, he messed up. No amount of fluffing will inject life into his big lie, that Canadians are better served by the Sportsnet deal, that it would end blackouts, and that TVA is a great partner for the league. Not with Louis Jean being allowed anywhere near the telecasts, and when TVA is part of Pierre-Karl Péladeau’s cosa nostra, along with QMI and its recent thundergoof about Captain Merrill Stubing being arrested in Ottawa while at the wheel of a rented Porsche.

      Chris, you’re quite justified in snapping your suspenders, and claiming that your efforts among others are having an effect. Sportsnet is in damage control now, and will try to mollify us with a cheap-ish alternative for this season and then over the next few years try to jack up the price. We’ll just have to keep holding their feet to the fire.

  60. Cal says:

    So, of course hardly anyone wants Brodeur. If this were 1999, sure. Now? Nope.
    Sorry to rehash this, but a new thread popped up as I posted this:
    One thing is certain. I want my Habs tv.

  61. montrealtilldeath says:

    No f%$^king way!!!! (repeat 1 million times). This guy is done. “I just wants to be back up” Bull cookies. This guy will be constantly undermining Price to the French media. It will be worse than the Halak Price situ. Price right now is oozing confidence. Look what happened in Toronto with their 2 keepers. Goalie confidence is a fragile thing.

  62. JUST ME says:

    I refuse to take side and say that number 33 was better than Brodeur cause this is how much i respect his fantastic career but now looks like a good time to call it quits. With the Habs the number 2 goaler will play even less than Martin would want to and this is not the way i want him to go. I say if you do not get any offer in the next month or so…this is it !

    • I often wondered had the Habs kept Patty how his numbers would look today and for that matter if the Habs’ 90’s would have been any better or worse.

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      • JUST ME says:

        Very good question ! I actually never looked back since it kinda ended not so well… But i am convinced that we would have done better even if in front of him those were not big lineups. Patrick would go and win games by himself. That kind of greatness. A winner and still is one.

        • I don’t think I’ll ever get over trading him, I mean not so much him leaving but the return was horrible.

          Savard said years later that he had a deal well before Patrick lost it in December for O Nolan and Fiset but he was fired so the deal was thrown out. Not sure where I read that, could be my alter ego making things up. :)

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          • JUST ME says:

            I remember the senator saying he had a trade but do not remember against who…Would have preferred to keep him anyway.

  63. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    If Brodeur was such a good team player he would still be in NJ. There is a reason why nobody has picked him up. Schneider should have played more games last year. No thanks…

  64. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Marty, your dignity is most important.

    Retire with dignity.

    Man, feel sympathy for Budaj. Everyone and their butler wants Budz’s job.

  65. PK says:

    Marty has been a great goalie, thorn in the side of the Habs …
    I would stick with Budaj and/or Tokarski.

    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  66. Hobie says:

    Looks like Brodeur is getting desperate. Time to hang’em up. Nice guy though. Great career.

  67. sprague cleghorn says:

    Just imagine the first time Carey Price lets in a couple of softies at home, and the crowd starts chanting for Brodeur.

    … ‘ow could we forget that?

    • Softies? You’ll be waiting a long time for that. Carey is one of the top 5 goalies in the league and on a weak defensive team, with average goal support.

      OT- Dear Marty, do the right thing and let the true backups play the game. You are not a backup, I know it’s hard but let it go, there is life after ice.

      Shane Oliver
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      • sprague cleghorn says:

        I agree. I’m just talking about some yahoos in the crowd plunging us into a “goaltending controversy”. Marty should not be a back-up in Montreal.

        … ‘ow could we forget that?

      • formerly known as the hc says:

        Well, everyone has a bad game now and then. I remember seeing The Great One have bad games now and then (of course, he would come back with 15 points in 3 or 4 games). Anyway, I too think that this would be more distraction than it’s worth. Nothing against Marty, but, No Thanks.

        -The beatings will continue until morale improves-

  68. Phil C says:

    First I find out that can no longer watch all 82 Habs games on one channel anymore, now my dishwasher just broke. Worst day of my life. #firstworldproblems

  69. Un Canadien errant says:

    QMI, the news ‘agency’ that brought you the scoop that Pope Francis was arrested in Ottawa while driving a rented Porsche, puts forth a news-adjacent item that free agent goaltender Martin Brodeur would listen to an offer if the Canadiens were so inclined. Which leads me to ask, who would be most superfluous on the Canadiens, Martin Brodeur, Francis Bouillon, or Paul Bissonnette?

    As much respect as I have for Martin Brodeur, he overplayed his hand here. He could probably have eked out a couple more seasons at a generous wage from the Devils if he’d accepted the backup role, but his insistence that he wanted to start made it easy on Lou Lamoriello to part ways with him.

    Now he’s without a team, it’s questionable that any organization would take him on with his wilting stats over the last few seasons. Unless he consulted with Roger Clemens and experienced a similar late-career surge in performance, I think he’s done, and the league seems to think the same way.

    There has been a lot of talk related to Michael Sam about a player being a distraction, and that is exactly what Martin Brodeur would be, at best a curio, at worst a distraction and source of controversy in Montréal. That we’re even discussing this is another indication that we are indeed in the dog days of August, and there is nothing going on that’s newsworthy. So we need to generate discussion.

    Or with Pierre-Karl Péladeau’s putrid Québecor and Sun Media, to actually invent news.

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  70. Habilis says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Comedy.

    Did they re-schedule April 1st to September 4th? They must have. Why wasn’t I told about this?

  71. Bogie Man says:

    Sorry no offense to both Budaj or Tokarski but MB if you could make this happen that would be amazing.

  72. habcertain says:

    Don’t think so first

  73. Habitue says:

    Way off topic, but are we able on this site to email individuals.
    I’m new at this so if it is possible could someone explain it to me.
    With thanks

    By the way I’m west of Belleville if that matters.

  74. 24 Cups says:

    You could back on the old site but not the newer version, Word Press.

    By the way, I’m west of Belleville and it does matter:)

    24 Cups

  75. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On ® says:

    Actually, if you live in Southern Ontario, it should be “up east”. :)

    Hab fans want choice! Sign the petition to give us back our games!
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

  76. Habs54 says:

    We have expressions down here in the east. In Cape Breton if you are in Sydney and are going north you are “going down north”. You go down east and out west. We also go down south! Go figure.

  77. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On ® says:

    Any player who’s place is all but assured on the opening day roster should not be considered a ‘prospect’. Therefore, Gallagher and Galchenyuk shouldn’t even be on their list.

    Hab fans want choice! Sign the petition to give us back our games!
    http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds

  78. Phil C says:

    I enjoy those write ups as well. Gallagher has had a bigger impact so far, but he is also two years older. I am expecting Galchenyuk to be as good or better than Gallagher in the next two years than Gallagher was at the same age.

  79. Un Canadien errant says:

    Chuck, we’ve discussed this before on HIO, they’re not doing the Top 25 prospects, but the Top 25 players/prospects under 25 years of age. Which is why in recent years Carey Price was #1 even if he hadn’t been in Hamilton for five years or so.

  80. B says:

    From
    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=724441#&navid=MTL-search

    After waiting nearly three hours on Friday night to call on Russian-born forward Nikita Scherbak from the Saskatoon Blades with the 26th overall selection at the 2014 NHL Entry Draft, the Canadiens decided to trade up on Saturday morning in Round 3. Swapping picks No. 87 and 177 to the Arizona Coyotes for No. 73 overall, Canadiens director of amateur scouting Trevor Timmins opted to beef up the team’s depth chart by drafting 6-foot-4, 205-pound defenseman, Brett Lernout in the third round.

    “We made that trade to move up because we wanted to make sure we had the chance to draft Brett,” explained Timmins of the hulking blue-liner, who had 22 points and a plus-7 differential in 72 games in 2013-14, while leading the Broncos with 103 PIMs including 11 fighting majors. “I looked at the teams drafting in front of us and thought there was a good chance he wouldn’t be there if we had stayed.”

    Jumping from 80th at the midterm rankings to 52nd among all North American skaters by NHL Central Scouting at the end of the season, Lernout turned heads at the NHL Combine in early June by dominating a few of the fitness tests. Finishing first in a pair of jumping tests – vertical leg power with and without pause – he also tied for second among all prospects by completing 12 pull-ups. Described as “big, tough and nasty” by Central Scouting’s B.J. MacDonald, it’s no surprise Lernout lists Chris Pronger as one of his biggest hockey influences.

    “He’s a big, strong, strapping defenseman,” added Timmins. “He’s tough as nails and has a heavy shot. We wanted to add some size on defense and he was a good fit.”

    –Go Habs Go!–

  81. habs001 says:

    Big game today vs the Rams on the road because the following 2 weeks they get Brady and Brees…..They have a tough sched this year…They could be a suprise team this year but more likely in the next 2-3 years…Will be interesting if their temp home field gives the same advantage that the dome did…

  82. Strummer says:

    Exactly- If Marty was so keen to be a Hab why didn’t he make the effort when he was relevant?

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