Markov’s season done: Report

According to the Team 990, Andrei Markov’s season is over after he suffered a torn ACL in his right knee in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference semifinals.

More details to come.

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  1. 24 Cups says:

    Chris – right you are about Gorges and O’Byrne.  I got my salary columns mixed up with the RFA column.  At least they will be restricted!  I also hope Spacek has some gas left in the tank by year three.  We also shouldn’t expect Gill to play this way (presently) for 82 games next year.  He will need to pace himself.

    Who would have thought at the beginning of the season that Halak and Gill would be our BEST two players in the playoffs (with major kudos to Cammy)?

  2. ManApart says:

    Still holding onto the dream eh Tommy? If Halak brings the best deal, you move him? I don’t think so.  If one guy has to go, I think we all know who that should be.

  3. TommyB says:

    “The Habs are in the uneviable position of not being able to afford to part with any of their assets that actually carry some value.” …….with the exception of one of two very good goaltenders.  As much as I would love to see both return, I think we all know that will not be possible.  Move the one that brings the best deal.  Looks like Desjardins in Hamilton will be ready to back up whichever of Price/Halak is kept.

     

  4. NightRyder says:

    The thing I hate most about Markov’s loss is because we’ve essentially lost two defencemen.

    When O’Byrne was paired with Markov he played his best hockey. Because Markov was so smart with the puck and always in position, O’Byrne could do what he does best – be big and play it simple. Playing with Markov earned Komisarek far more credit than he actually deserved.

    Watching OB play with MAB was terrifying. It was like he regressed two years inside of a single game. 

  5. Erica16 says:

    Note: This story was first reported by CONOR MCKENNA at the Team 990. Listen to him on the Playoff Push 8-11 pm on 990 AM

  6. Chris says:

    The contracts of Gill, Gorges, O’Byrne, Hamrlik and Markov (as well as Weber in Hamilton) expire after next season (2010-11), Steve.  The Habs will have an opportunity to do that re-think, but their financial flexibility will be a constraint, to be sure.

    But that is another conversation for another day.  :)

  7. TommyB says:

    Two-Four…If Markov’s injury is in the very serious category, meaning career jeopardizing, I hope that management will know and recognize that immediately.  Agree with you that a total re-think could be in order with Markov, and our blueline in general.

  8. Chris says:

    I am a huge Markov fan (he’s probably one of the only players left on the roster that I feel any attachment to), but I can see the logic in your argument.

    Like you, I would definitely not be in favour of trading Markov.  There is simply no way they would get anything close to equal value in return.

    But one of the problems with the Habs right now is that they rely too heavily on a core of 5 or 6 players, none of whom are true superstars.  Markov is the best of the lot, and by a comfortable margin in my opinion, but he can not carry a team. 

    As you say, the injury history is starting to become worrisome:  a severed ankle tendon and a torn ACL are both career-threatening injuries, and ones that worry based on Markov’s game being so reliant on his skating and agility.

    I’m just not sure that I can see where the help is coming from.  Mathieu Carle is intriguing, but he isn’t known as a solid defender.  Weber won’t help in the defensive zone.  And the assets that Montreal could package together don’t carry a lot of value:  the whole NHL knows that the Habs are desperate to unload the Kostitsyns, Hamrlik’s age and contract make him a risky proposition for a potential trade partner, and the rest of the team’s assets are either role players that could just as easily be replaced for free off the free agency rolls or expensive veterans that are getting a bit long in the tooth.

    The Habs are in the uneviable position of not being able to afford to part with any of their assets that actually carry some value.

  9. 24 Cups says:

    Great post, Tommy.  My first thought was that this injury could totally change our plans in terms of signing Markov.  Now is not the time, but the Habs are going to have to give it some thought.  There will be issues with cap space (long and short term) as well as talent.

    Hamrlik is on the clock.  One more year at best.  Spacek is going nowhere next year.  Subban, Gorges, and O’Byrne are signed for two more each.  Gill is signed for next year.  That gives you five, not including Markov.  Weber and Carle are in Hamilton but certainly don’t seem to be anything special.  Bennett is light years away.  All of them lack a physical game. 

    A total re-think might be in order.

  10. TommyB says:

    I definitely would not agree with trading Markov.  If he can play hockey at the NHL level, then I want him on this team.  Markov as a number 3 or 4 defenceman is still pretty good.  What I am saying is, the time is coming, if not here already, to start relying less on Markov.

  11. GoalieT says:

    C’MON, MARA!!! WHERE ARE YOU?!?!?!
    lol

    In all seriousness, I think P.K. will grab the bull by the horns here. It’s a prime opportunity for him to make a gargantuan statement. I’m super excited about this. MAB scares me each and EVERY game. I see the good he does, but then he completely poops his pants in the defensive zone at times.

    GO HABS!!! MAKE CYNTHIA CROSBY CRY SOME MORE!!!

    Ultimate Die-Hard Since 1986. T.

  12. homerbowen says:

    Good post. I agree we should look beyond Markov and he could be excellent trade bait at the next deadline. We need to look at building and Markov is not a key part of that equation. Too many injuries makes him too risky for us.

  13. Sambaguio says:

    Markov’s loss is probably bigger than Staal, but it is close. Staal would be 2nd line center on any other team in the league, is their best shutdown guy, 2nd best faceoff guy, and top penalty killer.

    If it is a complete tear, he’s done for the playoffs. Partial tear, and maybe he could come back late next series. Gonchar played with a partial tear last year after Ovechkin knee in the playoffs. 

    ——————————————
    Halak is beaming right now, “Look, Gainey, I’m the REAL number 1. Your so-called ‘thoroughbred’ is sitting on the bench.”

  14. TommyB says:

    Indeed it is bad news regarding Markov, but it is the news that we all pretty much figured we would hear anyway.  I agree with the sentiments of those who state this is a team game, not a one-man game, but knowing Markov is not coming back this season does have a finality to it.  But it is something that can, no make that must, be overcome.  This series, and any hereafter, will not be won or lost on the absence of one man.

    Now, don’t you people go jumping all over me for what I am to say, without reading and comprehending exactly what I am saying.  So here goes…the time has come to take a good look at how to replace what Markov brings to the team.  I’m not talking about the rest of the playoffs, I’m talking about the rest of Markov’s career in Montreal.  Pay attention.  I’m not saying it’s time to toss Markov aside.  What I am saying is, this guy has had some very serious injuries the last couple of years, and this year in particular.  One has to wonder about the effectiveness Markov will provide from this point on.  Can he still be the player he was?  Certainly we all hope so.  But it would be a good idea for management to start thinking in terms of the Montreal Canadiens without Andrei Markov.  It’s great that PK Subban appears to be NHL ready, and he should make the club next fall.  But management has to look beyond that.  Spacek and Hammer probably do not have much left in the tank.  I, for one, hope Montreal can add some substantial depth to the blueline over this summer.  I’d like to see a couple of defencemen come in who can play this game, and play it effectively.  These guys may not be in Hamilton, in fact I doubt they are.  I have to think there are some players on this current roster who will be shopped around this summer.  Hopefully, whatever we get in return includes one or two players who can address my concerns on our back end.

  15. andrewberkshire says:

    Technically our top 2 defensemen are out, and they’re missing a third line center. Hardly “even”, Mike. Staal is nowhere near the impact of Markov or even Spacek.

  16. habaddict_andy says:

    If Spacek’s back, wouldn’t MAB be put to fourth line and keep Subban as defensemen?  Or is Marc-Andre better?

  17. nfldanchor says:

    I think the Habs will win again tonight because they are showing teamwork is the difference between winning and losing. When you see guys like Gionta , Gomez , Camallerri going in the corners and taking hits to make a play , it shows they have heart and character. Something we lacked for a number of years was players that come to compete every game. We have a hot goalie who came from the ECHL and now is placing himself as one of the best goalies the  Habs have seen in quite a few years. P.K. Subban will be the difference maker , he shows the same skills as Markov and seems to fill the void. I know Markov is a huge loss but the Pens are without Stall tonight as well. 3 men back defense and pouncing when offensive chances become available will be the key to success against the defending champs. Also allowing limited shots by Crosby and Malkin last game was the key to our win. Blocked shots don’t make it to the scoreboard , but they are invaluable when playing such an offensive team like the Pens . Just ask Ovechkin about blocked shots , it sent him packing early.

  18. twocents says:

    Hey Chris, I responded to you in the “Wassup with brother Andrei”
    thread. If you care to look.

  19. RJ says:

    Poor Andrei is SO snakebitten!

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  20. mrhabby says:

    do we know if its a complete or partial tear of the ACL….just wondering about down time and next fall.

  21. 24 Cups says:

    Mikey – The only problem is that he is here to fill in for Spacek.

    I guess the notion of trading/buying out Hamrlik to free up cap space is now over seeing that Markov probably won’t start the season.

  22. WAR72 says:

    i agree…reluctantly. after a few games next season, when markov seems back to form, trading him is not a bad idea. along with the K bros, habs should be able to get something decent in return.

  23. WAR72 says:

    this story was obvious after markov left game one on crutches.

    now its being repeated ad nauseum…

    doesnt matter, habs took game 2 without markov, so thats that.

    go habs go!

  24. Chris says:

    Potentially…the key will be to see how he does in the next few games.  Many players over the years have done well on their initial call-ups…Matt D’Agostini and Marcel Hossa come immediately to mind.

    Once that initial adrenaline surge wears off and the opposing teams have had a chance to properly scout the new player’s tendencies, we’ll get a better feeling for his potential through the rest of these playoffs.

    Definitely looks like he will be a keeper down the road, though!

  25. KenD29 says:

    He will be in the line up tonight, watch!

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  26. mrhabby says:

    seems like the brass might have to do some internal review on what to do with Markov’s value and not something they planned right away. its really unfortunate he has had 2 major injuries this year, talk about bad luck its mind boggling really. he is such a great player.

    seems to me PG already needed to do something  with the blue line this summer before the injury.i cannot see anybody making an impact come the fall excluding subban..there is no one else on the farm.

  27. RetroMikey says:

    Subban will fill admirably for Markov, yes?

    Just remember this i a team game and not Markov;w team, we play as a team, win as a team and lose as a team.

    I dont want pansies on this site using lame excuses if we lose to Pittsburgh it is because Markov is not in the lineup.

    Pittsburgh is without their top guys in Stahl.  We’re even then.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  28. Bleu blanc rouge says:

    Death to Cooke! Habs fans at the game tonight, make sure you boo that S.O.B. every time he steps on the ice. I know it was a clean hit but that guy just bugs the shit out of me.

  29. Chuck says:

    I think that you have to find a way to cram Cammy into those top-2 positions. Without his timely goals, well… I’d hate to think about it!

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  30. lavie says:

    Is Markov going back to Russia from now on? Is he coming back to kiss the Cup?

  31. Chuck says:

    No… I think it’s safe to say that YOU think we all know who it should be. I’ll form my own opinion, thanks.

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  32. heart4habs says:

    Ummmm this is bad… but Markov wasn’t really an impact in the playoffs. We will miss him in the PP for sure…

    I think some players have to step up and we might have a chance…. players like Ak46, SK74, Hammer and Metro. If they put their heart into it, I’m pretty sure we’ll go pretty far in the playoffs…

     

    HALAKIT LIKE THAT!

  33. Chris Aung-Thwin says:

    PK – it’s your time to shine. Please, please shine.

  34. MikeMcLaren says:

    The worst part on this one is that we might not see Markov back until mid-season next year.  Healing time for ACL surgery is around 6 months, and that’s after the swelling is down enough to have the corrective surgery.

    Ugh.

    More adversity to overcome.  Thankfully this team is good at that.

    /\\ike
    GO HABS GO!

  35. SeriousFan09 says:

    Oh hell, that’s a kick in the ***.

    Win it for Markov guys, he’s carried this team since the lockout, the least you can do is carry on for him now.

    May not be the end of the world for him as a Canadien, depending upon the severity of the tear, the regular season won’t start until Mid-October next year with no Olympic schedule, theoretically if it’s a partial tear he could be ready to go for training camp, we’ll see.

     

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  36. Shublips says:

    Sucks.  Badly.  But the Habs can still get it done with Subban taking up a lot of the slack.  That being said, they desperately need Spacek back.  The longer he is out the tougher it will get.

    We can’t lean so heavily on a rookie and on MAB, for example, and expect that not to hurt the team.

    Man, how much does the Markov injury remind you of Koivu getting the stick in the eye against Carolina?  Just when Habs were starting to do well in the playoffs.

    Regardsless, I still think that the Pens are beatable.

    GO Habs GO!

     

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  37. Chris says:

    The problem with goalies is that they carry little value in trades, historically.

    There aren’t too many teams out there in desperate need of goalies, so your options are already limited and the market isn’t working in your favour. 

    The contending teams will be wary of going with a kid like Price or Halak (although Halak has to be raising his stock with this playoff run), while the building teams could just as easily try to acquire a guy like Cory Schneider, who is 24 years old and will be chomping at the bit for a job in the NHL after 3 excellent seasons in the AHL, something that is unlikely to happen while he is stuck behind Luongo on Vancouver’s depth chart.

    The best fit for one of our young goalies might actually be New Jersey, but I sure as heck don’t want to see either one of them in that system killing us year after year.  :)

  38. mike g says:

    BILL GUERIN

    game-time descision for tonight. Was seen hobbling around at Pens skate this morning….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  39. Fansincebirth says:

    Knew it was coming but didn’t want to hear it….

    Our shit luck continues. Thanks Little Johnny Black Cloud!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  40. Storm Man says:

    I was right Markovs ACL was torn, Corporate I told you so :)

  41. MTLForever says:

    MARC ANDRE IS WAAAAAAY TOO SLOW GETTING BACK IF PENS COUNTER

  42. RetroMikey says:

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    Can you obtain me a Ford HAbs Car flag avaelable at the Habs fan jam where they are giving them out?

    We will discuss price later  OR

    If anyone has a Ford Habs Car flag they are willing to depart which they received at the fan jam, please private mesasage to me and we will discuss price, shipping and handling.

     

    Thanks to all who can help a HAbs fan here in Hamilton, Ontario!

     

     

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  43. Shublips says:

    I agree 100%!!!  MAB is a horror show every time he is on the ice.  Sure he’s got a great shot but even on the pp, he often turns the puck over and let’s it slip out of the offensive zone.

    In the defensive zone, he is even MORE horrific.  He is small, not positionaly sounds, turnover prone, and basically an AHL level player….in every way….except for his shot.

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  44. Castor says:

    I guess my “connection” was right.

    Wow that sucks.

    WIN IT FOR MARKY!!!

  45. temekuhabs says:

    That hurts..

  46. mike g says:

    I usually try my best to be positive, so here I go…

    Yeah Markov’s out forever, but at least MAB is a -10…..

    Ahh, nevermind. This is the shittiest Tuesday.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  47. Ton says:

    too bad, you replay that hit over and over in your mind and just hope that marky would have hugged the boards. hind sight is hind sight I guess.

  48. Chorske says:

    Horrible news. What an awful year he’s had.

  49. dudurules says:

    Wow… surprising…. looked harmless, painfull but harmless

  50. avatar_58 says:

    Did anyone expect anything else? I just assumed this was true from day 1. I still think the rest of the team can step up their game. Markov, while a great player, didn’t exactly wow me in the washington series. It was Gill and Gorges leading the way.


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