Markov sighting, Price is October Molson man

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Andrei Markov skated for about an hour Monday morning at the Bell Training Complex in Brossard.
Markov’s light workout was supervised by Canadiens strength and conditioning coach Pierre Allard and chief athletic therapist Graham Rynbend.

Scott Gomez also got some skating in.

The rest of the team are doing dry-land training prior to a 10:30 practice.

Carey Price is out early, firing pucks on net from the players’ bench with his goalie stick, hitting the post a few times, burying a few more.

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Price is the Molson Cup winner for October.

The team announcement:

Carey Price was selected three times as the first star of the game (October 9 at Winnipeg, October 27 at Boston and October 29 against Boston), and once as the second star (October 26 against Philadelphia). Price finished ahead of teammates Max Pacioretty and Erik Cole.

The 24-year old goaltender had a 4-4-2 record in 10 games in October, with a 2.59 goals against average. He stopped 235 of the 261 shots he faced for a .900 save percentage. Price earned his 100th NHL career win on October 26 against the Flyers.

Carey Price will be presented with the Molson Cup during a ceremony prior to the November 8 game against the Edmonton Oilers at the Bell Centre.

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157 Comments

  1. avamia00 says:

    wow very nice style i like it …

  2. Tony McLean says:

    How long ’til the Markov comeback is derailed?

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  3. he is good and he will improve

  4. The Pickle says:

    Habitoba, not unlikely. Never going to happen. If NSH could afford to pay Gomez, they would just sign Weber…

    • vivsterjuve88 says:

      while i agree that giving gomez is a burden and giving shea webber is a massive blessing (therefore the 2 don’t add up) lets keep in mind that whatever nashville writes off to shea webber in a contract is all coming out of their pockets. If they take gomez in the summer, they’re giving him 5 and 4 mill./yr while knocking 7.3 off their min. cap reaching efforts. Obviously they need some real talent in return as well, but gomez in that respect could b an added perk!

  5. nellis13 says:

    why we talking about these jokers? when’s ryan white back?

  6. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Momesso clip is on tsn.ca talking about Gomez a lot. Says losing the respect of the fans is one thing, but losing the respect of your teammates is a whole other ballgame.

    Didn’t say whether he thought it was so with Gomez (yet), but said that’s the point at which action has to be taken.

    • SmartDog says:

      I wonder about Gomez’s situation (and his “injury”). Five games back and one assist, in the year where he promised to be better. You’ve gotta feel he’s gotta be wondering if he is up to it anymore.

      I think his main problem is that he’s stubborn – he acts like he has all the answers. What he needs to do is f-n LISTEN and adjust his game but instead most nights it’s the same circling, ciricling, everybody-wait-for-me-to-do-my-special-thing Gomez.

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      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        Looking at it from glass half-full, I’m hoping that as a third-line centre his production will be more in tune with what you’d expect. If he can get 40-50 points or so, I think that’s fine for a third-liner. And kill more penalties, he is good at that, which would relieve some pressure from Pleks. The salary is the salary, nothing to be done about that.

        Long and short of it, as a third-liner, less 5-on-5 minutes, more PK time. That’s me being optimistic.

        • SmartDog says:

          I think that’s a sane approach. (Unlike the glass-is-over-flowing crowd who still argue he’s one of the best centers in the league).

          If he could perform well in that capacity, AND not also finish near the bottom of +/-, I’d be okay with that.

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  7. SmartDog says:

    5 Questions:

    1. Start with the obvious. With Gomez back in the line-up are we better or worse?
    2. With a full line-up who do you put with The Plechanic?
    3. If you were going to throw someone into a deal as trade bait, who would you be most willing to part with out of a) DD, b) Weber, c) Diaz
    4. Has your faith in Spacek been restored?
    5. Can the recent coaching ‘change’ be deemed a success?
    Bonus Question: Who’s a better center right now – DD or Eller?
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    • Hockey says:

      SmartDog says:
      November 1, 2011 12:38 pm at 12:38 pm

      5 Questions:

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      Best ever!

      • SmartDog says:

        the fish!

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      • RetroMikey says:

        1. no better no worse
        2. bigger stronger grittier wingers via trade
        3. Markov…oops sorry Weber
        4. Spacek who? Didn;t know he played D!
        5. What coaching change? Pearne was a coach?
        Bonus: DD in a heartbeat for a skilled smaller forward who works hard every game in Montreal and in Hamilton!

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      1. Depends what Gomez is showing up, the one we had last year and playing in the first few RS games? No.
      2. Cole, Cammalleri, PF and sniper to cycle with our best forward.
      3. Diaz, DD, Weber in that order
      4. Some, but let’s see what he’s up to around March.
      5. I think Ladoucer is a better prescence behind the bench than Pearn and he’s improved the cohesion of our defence. Whether that sticks is another thing but for now the team seems better off.

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    • Timo says:

      1. You can never go wrong with an 8 mil dollar man in your lineup
      2. Moen and Darche
      3. I wouldn’t lose my sleep if any of them were gone
      4. Never lost it. Spach is a 10-12 min defenseman who is not utilized properly. Given other “talent” we currently have on D, Spach is just fine.
      5. If it’s a beginning of more coaching changes to come then yes.

      • Lafrich says:

        Man, I hope this is not how you are in life outside H/I/O. What a pessimistic guy you are.

        • Timo says:

          You’ve been paying quite a bit of attention to my humble persona as of late. Are genuinely concerned? You know, perhaps you can be my life coach and teach me how to better myself. How to be a happy person. It will score you some points, for sure.

          • Lafrich says:

            Actually, you seem like a bright guy – sharp with your comments, and knowledgeable about the Habs. Just one time I would like to read your actual thoughts – like answers to the above questions – not just always smart-a** responses.

    • Mick says:

      1 Better
      2 Cam-Cole
      3 Weber
      4 No
      5No

    • punkster says:

      1. He’s not back yet.
      2. Someone who can spell his name.
      3. Just curious, why would you think the Habs would consider trading these 3?
      4. Never lost faith in him.
      5. Given the PP and PK improvements over the 3 games you could jump to that conclusion though a single assistant coach shuffle is hardly a reason to book flights and hotels for playoff games.
      Bonus question: waaaaaay to early in the season to draw any conclusions on either of these guys at centre.
      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • stevieboy says:

      I was at practice this morning, and Ladouceur was verbal and involved and really into it. JM blew some whistles, but it didnt seem to be his show.

      That having been said, JM still clearly has a presence, albeit quietly, and theres a respect the players show him, evident in body language.

      Stevie

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      1. Better: Eller looked much better on the wing than he did last year, so think we can shift him over and we’ll have a top 9

      2. Cole and Cammy (Patches-DD-AK, Gio – Gomez – Eller)

      3. Weber would have the most value

      4. Never lost it. He’s a great depth dman. Way too much was asked of him last season

      5. Who knows. Can’t see in the dressing room.

      Bonus: Neither, both playing very well and bring different skills to the table

    • savethepuck says:

      1. Slightly better
      2. Cammy & ?
      3. Diaz. We will have an extra DMan available when ( not if ) Markov is available and Weber’s plus side over Diaz is he is 2 or 3 years younger in his development.
      4. Yes. with limited minutes in a 5th-6th DMan role he is an asset, and it’s been pointed out that he’s finally getting the opportunity to play on his preferred side on D.
      5. Yes, but who really knows.
      Bonus: Ask me in a year and I’ll say eller. Right now it’s a push.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
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    • flowerpower_74 says:

      5 Answers.
      1. Better on the third line.
      2. Cammalleri and Cole for sure.
      3. Weber (bigger fish/better return)
      4. Yes, for now, but wait until March/April
      5. Yes it can be deemed a success, but really had not much to do with it. (Winning)

      Bonus Answer: DD is better right now, and Eller should play on the wing when Gomez returns.

      Team Defence wins Championships…

    • 44har48 says:

      This is awesome I get to participate! not that anyone will agree or care…:)

      1. Better if he either focuses on Offence and helps his teamates score, or he focuses on Defence and gets back, but I don’t think he can play both. His gliding back into our zone after his man scores a goal is getting tiresome.

      2. Cammy and Cole. He needs a big winger to go to the net (doesn’t everyone?) and pure skill to play with him. I believe in stacking your scoring lines and producing goals from those guys.

      3. Diaz, then DD, then Weber. I like them all but you have to give to get. Diaz is going to be a good one buyt his age and size makes him more expendable than Weber in my opinion. Weber will solid when he is 25. I actually like this DD guy – reminds me of St. Louis.

      4. My faith in Spacek was always there. He has been misused period. Habs made him play the opposite side he played his entire career until this year and he played way too many mins to boot.

      5. I don’t think we can blame Pearn for the issues but I am in favor of the change because I really like the new guys and there enthusiasim. I don’t care about how or when he was let go, my boss can come into me at any time and let me go :)

      Bonus: Trick question…DD today, definatley Eller soon.

      • nunacanadien says:

        I never once saw Markov crash the net. In fact that does not seem to be part of the Habs philosophy. For some reason we seem to be the shoot from a distance type, as JM doesn’t want any of our players to be playing physical. You heard what he had to say, we are a small fast team, that doesn’t fight.

        That speaks volumes. It means we have a philosophy of not wanting to win. Of not fighting cause we know we are small. What, the habs are a team full of snipers? We are all expert small players who can shoot cause we are too small to crash the other net to score.

        That is the only way to score in the NHL now. In fact most of the wins we’ve had were because the habs have adopted Cole and his crash the net style like the rest of the league. You see Cammy try but he gets pushed out. You see Gionta and Gomez try but they never make it within 15 feet of the net. How are you going to crash the net to push the puck in?

        We dont’ have a style that allows Subban to score, we dont’ have a style that allows Cole to skate alone and crash the net. That is why the first few games you saw Cole being crapped on by JM. No JM’s style if five on five with no physical play.

        Time to fire the coach.

    • Lafrich says:

      1. Habs get worse. It’s all about roles. Pleks, Eller, and DD are all filling the role of playmaking centerman better than Gomez can.
      2. Cammalleri and Cole
      3. Diaz
      4. No. He will come back to earth
      5. Irrelevent
      Bonus: DD

  8. Captain aHab says:

    My hope is that if they put Gomez back at C and move one of DD or Eller off the spot, that the leash on Gomez amounts to a choker. If the team lets him float for 20 games before doing anything, then it’s D.U.M.B.

    I’d tell him: Gomer, we’ve seen enough of DD and Eller to know that they are playing better right now than you at any time except in the playoffs two years ago. You wanna keep a spot and not end up riding the bus in Hammy, then you play hard, every game. If you can’t, it’s Hamilton or retirement.

    • SmartDog says:

      I’m wicha!!!

      And if not… let’s MUTINY!!!! ARRRRGGGGGGHHH!!!!!

      Seriously though – you’re exactly right. Whether you agree that Gomez is a black hole of suckitude or not, everyone agrees he needs to play better and give more. They haven’t gotten that from him yet, it’s time to force his hand. Wake up Gomer, this isn’t a rehearsal, it’s your life (and your career).

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    • nunacanadien says:

      Maybe Gomez can play goalie, or better yet, put him with Gil on defense! Wouldn’t that be a great marketing ploy for Bettman? Come and watch the Habs Big and Tall and Tiny team! Yes, the habs, who have a small fast team but with one Big and Tall defenseman paired with the leagues’ smallest hockey player! Yes come and watch Gil and Gomez! Gomez paid to score one goal a year and paid 7 million dollars for that goal! Yes, Gomez has won a Ford Fiesta along with his 7 million dollars! Like some bad TSN commercial it would be! And watch the exploits of the true life Disney Ducks team! Yes, Jacques Martin exhibits the famous flying V formation, the classic five on five formation, and of course to add to that the losing formation…….

  9. The Pickle says:

    Nobody is giving up picks for Campoli after passing on him this offseason

  10. croozer says:

    Is Emelin going to get a chance?
    Habs certainly chased him to get him.
    He’s supposed to have a nasty streak which Habs sorely need.

    It’d be great if could be another Kasparaitis but perhaps that’s a dream.

    • SmartDog says:

      I freakin’ hope so. He had a couple of good games. The kid needs time but he brings a factor we don’t have.

      What would be very frustrating is if they lose him and then go out and spend money or picks to get someone like him but a bit steadier (older) and with less potential. This would be the PG way…. argh.

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      • Old Bald Bird says:

        I am wondering what PG thinks of JM’s [lack of] use of the guy that he worked hard to get over here.

        • SmartDog says:

          PG seems quick enough to shuffle the deck anytime JM has a problem… though you’d think he’s also learning that because JM doesn’t like someone, that doesn’t mean they are not valuable. Hopefully.

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    • Timo says:

      That’s JM’s way of developing. However, nothing that I’ve seen in Emelin so far indicates he is any better than the Diaz, weber and whoever else people think are a prized possession.

      • zorro says:

        I’m happy with Diaz. No, I’m actually surprised at how well he’s doing. The kid isn’t big, has little to no NHL experience yet he make’s few mistake’s, create’s offencive play’s. I think he’ll only get better, and make it difficult for coaches to sit him out.

    • 24moreCups says:

      I was thinking the same thing, is he ever going to play again?

      And when he does he’s gonna be a bit rusty plus he’s still getting used to the North American game, so he if he makes a mistake good ol’JM will bench and probably let him play the rest of the season from the press box.

      I had a lot of hope for Emelin especially since it took so long to get him to come over here and we’re not even using him lol.

  11. --Habs-- says:

    Question! Why is it that putting Cole on the PP took Martin 8 games to figure out and us the fans 1. Doesn’t management notice! Then Gomez. We have a lineup that is clicking and they’ll put him back in? Gauthier has to do his job! If 7 million has to sit on the shelf and we’re winning I personally don’t care! Its winning first and shelf money second! Companies have plenty of shelf employees.

    • Timo says:

      Actually, Martin didn’t figure it out. Jessica Hastheballs did (unlike say HIO crew) – bless her heart. Martin probably still pissed that Darche can’t get 100% PP time.

  12. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Good to hear Markov is skating. Can’t say the same about Gomez.

    “Hate Bruins like a sickness”

  13. Mick says:

    Gomer is here to stay! Let’s get real! With a full line up we are looking good.
    This is what should happen when we have a full line up with Markov,Gomer and White. Darche will have to sit. DD will have to be traded along with Weber and Campoli. Diaz or EMelin to the press box.
    These are the lines and D, I think these would give us the most balanced we have had in a long time because of the size on all four.
    Cam- Plek- Cole
    Gio- Gomer-Pac
    Moen-Eller-Kostitsyn
    White-Nokelainen-Blunden

    Defence:
    Markov Emelin
    Gill Subban
    Spacek Georges
    Diaz

    • likehoy says:

      trade DD, weber campoli for what? lol

      - Gomez is holding down the “overpaid” button

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Now that´s smart. Trade the 0.85m player in order to keep the 7.4m player who scores less points. Btw: Gill, Spacek and Gomez won´t/shouldn´t be here one year from now, yet you give the younger players away…

      Let´s really, really get real. Play Gomez on the fourth line and make him earn his way back in the top 9 again. Whatever he does, next summer it´s either Hamilton, Europe, a trade or a buy-out for him. Keeping him beyond this year with his cap hit can´t be an option.

      • Habitoba says:

        +1
        Some folk tend to forget contract length. With Spatcho gone next year, Campoli could be a great replacement: not too young, not too old and a bit more edge than Diaz or Weber. We should package Gomez, Weber and AK for Nashville’s Weber and a pick. Unlikely, I know, but a man can dream.

  14. The Pickle says:

    Did I read somewhere in here that someone has “never been impressed with Markov”? WHAT?! Markov when healthy is easily, easily a top 5 D man in the NHL. Puts up points with the best of them, runs the PP, is a complete nightmare for attackers in a 1 on 1 situation, makes a great first pass and is steady as a rock. He’s the Lamborhini to Lidstrom’s Ferrari, they do the same thing but one is a tiny bit better (that being Lidstrom of course). And let’s not pretend this guy has always been injury prone. Last year was a disaster, but the year before he played until the 2nd round and missed time due to a freak cut from Price’s skate. Basically he’s had the same injury twice within the last year and a half.

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  16. C_exacte says:

    Anyone think our 2nd PP wave is way better than the 1st?? Is JM smart enough to tire out the other PK before putting out our snipers?? Does this strategy make our PP better our worse???

  17. petefleet says:

    I would not want to be JM if Gomer is coming back on Friday. The odd man out will be Darche, who does not deserve to sit. Nokia and Blunden played very well and that line should remain in tact. That said, who sits? There’s only so much room on the bench. No one is floating. How do you take anyone of the top 9 out of the lineup? Very good problem to have. The best part is JM knows that they know his and will be looking for the one guy who does not pull his weight on Friday. Should make for a hard working bunch of guys in that dressing room.
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    • shiram says:

      Not that it’s what I want to see, but DD on the wing somewhere, maybe taking Moen’s spot, Moen in Blunden’s spot, Blunden sits?

      Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

      • habs03 says:

        While the Moen-Eller-AKost line has been good, I’d like to see DD-Eller-AKost. Issue is you could possible have Eller take draws and play down low (like C’s do) in the D-zone, and have DD play center in the O-zone, but man that would be soo complicated for backchecking assignments.

    • G-Man says:

      Eller or DD will not be at center when Gomez returns. Players do not lose their spots because they were injured.

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      • habs-hampton says:

        Really? I wouldn’t get too comfortable if I were Gomez. Remember the guy that Lou Gehrig filled in for? Didn’t think so. I think he retired waiting to get his spot back.

        I hope JM follows his history and doesn’t mess with a winning lineup (unless Markov is ready to go).

        Time’s up, JM must go!

      • Timo says:

        I think one thing JM hasn’t tried yet is Gomer on the wing. Why not? He can’t do worse than playing center, can he?

    • Ali says:

      Gomez can give Emelin pressbox lessons on how to remain witty while being completely useless (even though I do not think Emelin is useless).

  18. krob1000 says:

    What level of success does it take for JM to keep his job after this season?
    We are back in a decent place right now but we still have some serious work cut out for us…..we still need to go 13 games over .500 in our last 71 games to make the playoffs from here on if you use the 94 point plateau. Some years it is higher..some lower but that is about average I believe.

    • RGM says:

      If he makes the playoffs he’s secure. There is a $1M payout clause in his contract if it is terminated early, and while I’m sure we’d all line up to tell Mr. Molson that we’ll all buy an extra case of Molson M to offset the cost, you don’t become & remain a billionaire by giving someone a million dollar cushion after pushing them out the door.

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    • Jordio-oh says:

      I believe the average is 92, since the lockout.

      If we make the playoffs, he keeps his job.

      If we fall short, there will be some serious evaluating, but I bet he still keeps his job, unless we miss the playoffs by 10+ points, which we won’t.

      If everyone is used effectively, I don’t see why we can’t finish the season with 92 or more points.

  19. naweed235 says:

    Does anybody know how the cap will work out once Markov comes back? correct me if I am wrong but right now we have $1.3M in cap space, and that’s with Markov on LTIR … which means his salary does not count?
    Does that mean the team needs to free up some cap space for Markov to come back?

    • savethepuck says:

      I am sure Markov’s salary is included in our present cap hit. I am not sure that when a player is on the IR it does not count against our cap hit, but I know when a player is “lost for the season” his salary definitely does not count against our cap.

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    • crazyhabsfan says:

      Markov isn’t on the Long Term IR, that is the only way his salary wouldn’t count against the cap. Not knowing how long he was going to be out to start the season, he wasn’t placed there.. Last year, they knew he wouldn’t be returning, therefore he was placed there.
      “In order to qualify for placement on the Long Term Injured Reserve (henceforth referred to as the LTIR), a player must be deemed to be unavailable for 24 days and 10 NHL games. If that is satisfied, a player can be placed on the LTIR.”
      So technically, Campoli could be on the LTIR, but is not for unknown reasons I guess…

      http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=2

    • habs03 says:

      Markov is cap hit counts but when on the IR, the Habs can spend over his the cap up to Markov cap hit.

  20. naweed235 says:

    I know that it’s probably to early too think about it but I REALY hope that AK 46 gets a 3 yrs extension … As much as alot of people hate him, I think at the end of the year, he is one of the most constant wingers we have. Sure he can be invisible for 10 games and on for another 10 but here’s a guy that you know will give you 20-30 goals no matter what. Plus he has size, speed and skill that this team just cannot afford to lose.

    • habs03 says:

      I won’t mind if its for 3.5M/3 years, nothing more, but I think he can get more as a FA.

    • shiram says:

      AK46 might want to explore free agency, his comments this summer, and the fact that he is playing on the third line, with little PP time might have him explore teams that would give him more TOI.
      I hope he stays.

      Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

    • krob1000 says:

      I hope they keep him….he has been consistent desptie being played with different lines. He is waht he is and if people just accept they have an automatic 20-30 goal guy and stop expecting him to Ryan Getzlaf or someone else from that class then he is just fine. If he is replaced with someone of equal talent that can be a bit more of a bruiser ( I know Andrei hits a lot ) ok then let him walk. With Cole, Pacioretty and Andrei all banging bodies as wingers and also possessing some phsyical strength and eller too we are not so small anymore and are winning a lot of races on the walla nd board battles. Our little guys for the most aprt do not play little so I am quite happy up front…..Myc oncern is still ont he back end where wehave amazing depth but the depth is all at the same defensive roles and we don;t have that nasty dman we need.

      • Neutral says:

        AK- one of the steadier players we have – if he leaves some team will get a real good player – who knows what we’ll get to replace him – seen too many of those movies other teams get better with our players.

    • habs-hampton says:

      With AK you know what you get. He has the ability to score 40 goals, but he will only get 20-25. He does however play fairly physical, is not injury-prone and his numbers remain quite consistant. He also back checks.

      Time’s up, JM must go!

    • 44har48 says:

      They need to keep AK46 no question. I hate that he needs good linemates to make him reach full potential, I was hoping he would be one of the guys that makes his linemates better. Having said that, big guy with an unbeleivable shot, and I feel he is a late bloomer in that he is becoming defensively responsible and coming into camp in shape. It just took a while for him to mature. I say if this guy goes to any other team without Darche to steal PP time and JM to park him in the press box or 4th line when he gets a penalty, he will easily score 40+ goals.

  21. Three reasons not to send Gomez to Hamilton:

    1. This only makes sense from a cap hit perspective, since we have to pay his salary anyway. And even then, it only helps if we’re planning a deal or a signing that’s going to absorb a lot of cap hit — which we’re not, because the team is clicking so well right now. Which is exactly why Gomez is expendable in the first place. If PG finds himself wrangling a blockbuster deal at the deadline, fine: send him down. If not though — and this seems much more likely given PG’s record — the extra cap space will go unused anyway.

    2. Say he clears waivers and plays in Hamilton. In order to call him up again, if a centre or two gets injured say, we have to put him through re-entry waivers. And I bet dollars to donuts that some of the GMs who are balking at his $7M cap hit would be pleased as punch to pick him up for half that, with us footing the rest of the bill. For two and a half years. I believe teams pick up players in reverse order of their place in the standings, and guess who’s in the basement at the moment? If you can’t stand his cap hit now, imagine taking a $3.5M hit to have him play in Boston.

    3. I don’t think he’s one of our three best centres right now. But he’s really not a bad player, and even now is playing like a B-level 2nd-liner or an A-level 3rd-liner. He seems to have lost the slick passing skills, but he carries the puck better than most, is quite fast, and is actually a pretty decent penalty killer. Since we’re not going to go out and deal for Rick Nash and his salary tomorrow, and since the free agents are all signed already, what’s the harm in putting him in the press box now and then, rotating him in for slumping players, and keeping him as a reserve when the inevitable injuries pop up?

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    • Kooch7800 says:

      question is, who do you sit so he can play right now

      • Well, I’d be a better GM than a coach. : ) But if it were me, I’d sit Darche. He’s a warrior and I love the guy, but he’s mostly a non-factor, with 1 goal, 0 assists and a -1 over 11 games. And you know those numbers aren’t a result of low icetime — at least not so long as Martin is at the helm. Takes lots of shots, but they almost never go in. He’s the kind of guy that successful teams have on the fourth line or in the press box.

        Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

        • krob1000 says:

          I know everyone mocks Darche..me included at times but he goes all out all of the time…he is the kind of guy who if kept around the team motivates others because JM has shown he will play him in important roles because of his work ethic….not sure I always agree with that but it has to be in the players minds. Darche is willing to go bang bodies with the biggest baddest players around, he always goes at Chara, Thornton, Lucic and the rest of the thugs which is pretty admirable…maybe not the birghtest but the guys have to respect that. Blunden goes before Darche without question IMO.

          • Krob, you convinced me — see, I told you I’m a better GM than a coach. : )

            Though I do like what Blunden brings — toughness without slowness or defensive liability. And to be fair to the guy, he does seem to work every bit as hard as Darche.

            Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

          • 44har48 says:

            I do not like having to play Darche and watch him get chance after chance and hit the goalie in the chest or shoot wide (Chris Higgins anyone?), but I can’t deny he is one of a very few players we have that goes to the net and we all know what happens when guys go to the net…

      • Morenz7 says:

        An $8M player in the pressbox would be something of a distraction for the team, I think. But on balance, I can’t say I disagree. The other centres are just playing better, full stop. And Gomez would make a lousy winger: not very strong, not much of a shot, prone to losing the puck on contact.

        As for sending him down to Hamilton, that is the nuclear option. If it happens, he doesn’t get recalled for the duration of his contract, and I’d say that’s the end of his career. He’s definitely at a crossroads.

  22. Kooch7800 says:

    I am really curious to see what PG is made of with our Defense. When Markov is back Emelin will be really the odd man out and we could lose him to the KHL. In saying that, what will he do when Campoli is back as well. We are going to have a ton of extra D man. I think Campoli is out to the second half though so he could be sent away for some draft picks for someone who is light on Defense, which with our history of injuries could still be us.

    Personally, I would probably trade Weber a forward. I like weber but Diaz seems to be taking his spot for the future rather quickly.

    Either way this will be a true test for PG cause they will have to do something.

    The sad part is when Gomez is back Blunden will be sent down, not realizing that we need his energy on the 4th line. Until white is back I would keep Blunden in the line up

    • Malreg says:

      That’s assuming everyone is actually healthy when Campoli and Markov are ready to play again.

    • The worst thing you can do as a GM is lose something for nothing. So with Markov and Campoli healthy I’d send Diaz and Emelin to Hamilton since they’re exempt from waivers — that way you don’t lose any pieces. But that would mean a good heart-to-heart with Emelin, and a promise that if he has a good season in the AHL, we’ll trade away a defenceman and make a spot for him in the lineup. So that leaves:

      Markov-Subban
      Spacek-Weber
      Gill-Gorges
      Extra: Campoli

      I’d almost say let’s deal Spacek at the deadline (since he’s an impending UFA that still has value) and bump Emelin into his spot, but Spacek really does bring leadership and consistency to a young inexperienced D corps, and I think he’s needed for now.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

      • Kooch7800 says:

        I agree losing something for nothing isn’t good. The problem is though the habs have been doing that for the last x number of years.

        Emelin apparently isn’t happy and will probably leave if he isn’t paid. IMO, so what. If he is that much of a non team player than let him go back and make his KHL money there isn’t much we can do about it. We do need to address our physical play though on Defense. None of our Defense are physical and in the playoffs and down the stretch I bet we have more injuries back there as our d well get worn down

      • Mats Naslund says:

        Who in that defensive lineup is capable of throwing a body check that separates a player from the puck?

        Emelin has been given 6 games to figure out the North American game and already people are talking about sending him back to the KHL? The team has just emerged from crisis mode. Emelin’s spot in the press box has been due to the desire by the coaching staff not to mess with a winning combo – but they are on cheap drugs if they value ANY of Weber, Spacek, Diaz or Campoli over Emelin. I know we’re in the middle of the Jaro Spacek appreciation circle – but you don’t screw with a player that could be in your plans for the next 5+ years for a 37 year old impending UFA. Spacek should be used for one purpose – sparingly to provide a veteran presence when the team needs one.

        There is a common saying in baseball – that all prospects are not equal. Its why a team can value two players with identical stats at VERY different levels. Emelin is capable of doing almost all of the things that any of those 4 players (Spacek, Diaz, Weber, Campoli) do – with the added benefit of being 25 years old and 6’2 225.

        I’m not hating on any of those guys. They are all good pieces – but when combined together in our D corps you end up with a redundant mess of 5’11 190 pound average offensive defensemen.

      • 44har48 says:

        If Emelin is sent to Hamilton, he goes to the KHL. Only reason they keep him in the press box and not in AHL right now. I am disgusted with how they are handling him and what they are missing that he can bring to this team. I am beginning to think this organization has an issue with Russian players. Grobovski, SK, AK46, Emelin…Markov is the exception because an idiot can tell how important he is as a top 5 NHL defencemen when healthy.

  23. caladin says:

    Here’s why Gomer to Hamilton is a bad idea just now:
    It makes it impossible to recall him or trade him him for the rest of the year, due to re-entry waivers.
    Far simpler to let him ride the pine in the press box.
    As for trading Markov… Uh you’d rather have Diaz? Weber? Come on now, that’s beyond crazy.

    • nunacanadien says:

      The problem is Gomez regardless of how healthy he is, is not a good mix, he screws up the lines, as Gionta expects to play with Gomez. Gionta can score but his scoring is not that great lately with Gomez. The only goals so far for Gionta have been mainly without Gomez. Gomez is the weak link, in fact almost any player less than 6 feet tall is a weak link. The only difference being the new and rested legs of Desharnais and other rookies called up from Hamilton.

      Once JM goes back to his rigid five on five in the box style that Gauthier wants him out of, the injuries will mount up, and even having Gomez will give us a crappy line.

      Not having Gomez period will ensure the habs have a good year. Firing JM as soon as possible during this break would also help. Clearly Ladouche and Cunny can keep the ship afloat. God knows JM has practically sunk the ship with his rigid five on five.

      Time to free the boys like we have in the last three wins, let the Habs skate and use their skill.

  24. HabinBurlington says:

    New Poll Question
    Which issue is of greatest concern/heartache for the average HI/O poster?
    1. I can’t read link to Gazette article (delete cookies, go incognito, use chrome, or just ignore advice and complain)
    2. How do I set up an Avatar for my account (despite not seeing posts from Bill, kind enough to include link with every post)
    3. FORBIDDEN
    4. Gomez (Sucks, Trade em, Buyout him out, send him to hamilton, send him to tuktoyaktuk, give em chance)
    5. MAB, Gui, Higgins, Ribeiro, SK, Grabo yada yada yada yada
    6. When is Markov coming back, Why did we sign him, He is an allstar

    I realized when starting this poll question there are many critical issues, but needed to draw the line somewhere.

  25. EastCoastJoe says:

    I think it’s a safe bet that Gomez is here at least until the trade deadline, when MAYBE a team close to the cap floor will take a runner on him in exchange for a 4th round pick. With an average salary of $5 million over the last 2 years of his contract but with a cap hit of $7.3m, might be worth the gamble for a Phoenix or Winnipeg team, maybe even Colorado if they continue their strong play and require a speedy centre who has no trouble getting the puck over the offensive blue line….just cut off the clips right there.

    • Jordio-oh says:

      If we’re in the playoff picture at the deadline, I can’t see us dishing off an experienced centre, regardless of how poor his offensive production is.

      Despite his regular season shortcomings, Gomez still has 18 points in in 26 playoff games for us.

      • nunacanadien says:

        Gomez however probably coughed up just as many points, enough points against us, he coughs up the puck a lot. He gives the puck away. Gomez is not big enough and we can’t seem to find an enforcer to protect him, nor does he score. He provides enough assists, but honestly, for $7 million? Since we didn’t get Blair Betts, chances are, even with our next good faceoff guy Desharnais, you can’t have two small forwards on a line and expect to score. We’ve seen that early in the year. Gomez is sh*t out of luck given that he does not fight back, he does not push back enough cause he is so small, even if he could and wanted to, his size stops him. Nor is he a dirty player, nor does he quarterback great plays. None of our talented d-men can hook up with him, well, and Gorges who passes him the puck enough times, I am sure gets deflated to watch Gomez basically checked off the puck. How many times do we have to repeat this? We don’t want Gomez, we don’t want JM’s five on five style and we’re tired of Gauthier giving away the hockey farm for peanuts!

  26. ZepFan2 says:

    I open my gazette sports page and what do I see, a story about Tim Thomas. With a big picture of floppy.

    Is this why I buy the Gazette? NO!

    I buy it for stories on the Habs, the Als and the Impact!

    I don’t give a sh!t about the bruins or Tim Thomas.

    Soon enough I’ll be cancelling this rag.

    ———————————————————————-
    Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Headshot League.

  27. Mattyleg says:

    I really liked Gagnon’s column on Gomer.
    I’ve never been part of a ‘camp’ on this site (apart from ‘optimist’, which also seems to go by many other unflattering names on HI/O, but whatevs) but I’d like to see the back of Gomez.

    I was looking forward to seeing if he could put his results where his mouth was this year, and wanted him to do well because (a) he’s a Hab, (b) he’s proven that he’s got talent in the past, and (c) he’s effin’ expensive.

    Turns out nothing much has changed. He carries the puck well through the neutral ice zone, and he seems to be shooting more and has juggled up his play in the o-zone, but there’ve been no statistical results to speak of. I know he got hurt early, but I don’t see room for him in the lineup right now.

    So long Gomer, and send us a postcard from Hamilton.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • shiram says:

      Yep, my vote is for Gomez being sent down to Hamilton as well.
      Play the kids!

      Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

    • cthab says:

      I disagree, there is room for Gomer in this lineup. He was part of this group when the rebuilding phase began. He definitely skates the puck out of our zone 99% of the time….not bad stat. I only wished that he shot more, and that appears to have been addressed.

      • PG_doesnt_stand_for_Pierre_Gauthier says:

        Agree that he shots more, but his shot isn’t great either. If it’s not wide out of the net, the shot hobbles along the way to the goalie…

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        What rebuilding? He is part of a team that for the past two years has been solidly middle of the pack at best.

        • nunacanadien says:

          So how come we don’t pay the rest of the middle of the pack players $7 million a year? Gomez got paid basically a million dollars a goal! What small pint sized forward in the NHL can do that and get away with it? Gauthier got taken to the cleaners with Gomez. If we get rid of Gomez we might as well get rid of Gionta as they come as a bundle it seems.

    • Neutral says:

      I disagree – 4th line for Gomez, if he can skate the puck out of our zone 99% of the time – the 4th line will be excellent for him – also on the PK – getting paid to much to play in Hamilton.

  28. Bigdawg says:

    Wow coming here to read comments is like coming to a website devoted to hatin’ some ex boyfriend or something – all the Gomez hate! and in the off season the spactcho hate (where is that now you childed SOBS – just kidding) Spatches has worth – I mean was the +/- leader last year, tons of experience and in most situations knows his limitations.

    Gomez – ya ok, there is no way we will get anything close to 7M value from him this year. And I prefer DD, Pleks and Eller at center. I would try him on the wing. If anything he has shown us in playoffs past (not all mind you) that he can deliver value to the CH in the playoffs. I personally think it has to do with his willingness to sacrifce the body on the play – get him hungry and we can maybe get 1/2 to 3/4 value from him.

    • Say Ash says:

      How do you get a guy making $7 million a year hungry, exactly?

      • Mattyleg says:

        I don’t mind the idea of trying him on the wing.
        All last year the only thing he did effectively was skate into the zone and stick his butt to the left-wing boards. Put him on the wing!! That way there won’t be a gaping hole in the centre anymore.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • nunacanadien says:

          Gauthier’s bonus and the rest of the coach’s bonuses should be attached to Gomez’s goal production. If Gomez doesn’t score, then Gauthier shouldn’t get a bonus. Fire Gomez, then you should fire Gauthier who gave us Gomez and who put up with this horrible contract!

    • G-Man says:

      Many “fans” hate certain players on the team. It’s a Hab tradition to do this, although it used to be love/hate. Now, it’s all about the “fan” pretending he/she knows more than the pros on the team.
      Gomez gets all the “love” because of the salary he commands- all will be forgiven if he scores the Cup winning goal. If not, it’s the same-old same-old for him from these “fans”.

      _____________________________________________________

      When in doubt, blame PP.

  29. cthab says:

    Sorry about the spelling on word better in last sentence, couldn’t get into the edit app.

  30. Timo says:

    Finally, Gomez’s skating. Can’t wait for him to come back.

  31. Mattyleg says:

    Not to say that Price hasn’t had a good run, but the Molson Cup is a joke now that the fans are voting the stars.

    What fans are going to ever vote for Hal Gill or Josh Gorges unless they score goals or get assists? Give the star voting back to the hockey writers who can actually recognize good play.

    Or rename it the Molson Fan Favourite Cup.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • ffenliv says:

      Having fans vote for the stars has been a joke wherever I’ve seen it done. Sure, the 3-star selection really doesn’t mean anything, but I’ve always found it a nice tradition, and a way of recognizing good play, even when it’s the other team you’re giving the recognition to.

      The Bell Centre has one of, if not the best atmospheres in the league, but in my experience (in my handful of trips there, and watching on television) that’s largely due to the unstable nature of the fans: going crazy for a Habs goal on minute, and booing a bad play by the Habs the next. Are these really the people who should be making decisions about 3 stars?

    • shiram says:

      Marketing ploy, and so is forcing the 1st star player to throw out pucks at the crowd.

      Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

      • ffenliv says:

        The pucks I can deal with – the fans pay a mountain of money for tickets – particularly the people within throwing distance of those pucks (not accounting for corporate tickets, and all that jazz), and it’s not like it’s asking a player to spend hours signing autographs after the game, but the star-selection deal really annoys me.

        • shiram says:

          To me it’s a small issue part of a greater marketing campaign.

          Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

          • Malreg says:

            Right, because FORCING a player to give away a couple pucks after being named first star of the game is so terrible. How dare they.

          • shiram says:

            As I said, in itself it’s a small issue, but considering the 3 stars are voted by fans, the captain that was chosen by management, and various reports of players not getting infor when their contracts are up, it points to a version of management I do not like so much.
            Maybe I’m seeing something where there’s nothing…

            Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

    • krob1000 says:

      Hal Gill has been brutal so far this year.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I don’t think so.
        As I say every year…
        At the beginning of the season, Gill’s lack of speed is exposed by fresh legs. As things tighten up, he becomes more and more valuable.
        He’s been great on the PK, especially on the 5-3.
        I think he’s done a good job, and sure he suffered early on, but then again, so did the whole team. Even Gorges, who doesn’t make bonehead mistakes, was making bonehead mistakes.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • krob1000 says:

          I heard that theory when it was said before a game too and to some extent it may have some validity…it definitely may close the gap between Hal and average speed, the backchecking presence and tighter team game contributes too but he is really only a specialist. He can kill 5 on 3′s but how many of those are there? I really like Hal Gill the person we see on camera, in interviews,etc., I like his leadership and I see value in him being around….I like his commitment, his willingness to stand up for teammates, his sacrificing his body over and over,,etc,etc…he has so many positive attributes but I just don’t know if being a top 5 or even 6 dman on a good team anymore is one of them. He doesn’t get banged around too much and could easily step in in a playoff series and provide value if you have other dmen eating big minutes. I think we use him way too much….and if you and whoever that commentator are right then why play him early on…let the big fella rest up these games are every bit as important as the games in March…they are all worth two points. In fact we have made the playoffs a couple of times in the last few years because of our strong starts.

          • 44har48 says:

            I could not agree with you more…and he is our worst Dman right now 5 on 5. Maybe play Emelin now and Gill later on? Emelin would thhen take the place of an injured D and get his TOI up to learn the rink and language? Nah, makes too much sense for JM.

  32. habs03 says:

    We are missing Markov soo badly on the PP.

    • cthab says:

      Hi Habs fans. I don’t comment much on the board. However, it upsets me to see how many have short memories. We praise the team when the win and the minute they lose all the experts want a clean slate, immediately forgetting that during the winning phase the whole organization was the best thing since apple pie. Enough said about that….now on to Markov.
      My opinion has always been that although he is a great player, this team cannot afford a player who is so injury prone and obviously cannot take hits let alone GIVE ONE!!!. As soon as he is betterk, I wish him the best and hope that management makes a decent trade for him.

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        Don’t hold your breath.

        The only way we trade Markov is if he is fully recovered, playing great hockey, and it is the last year of his contract and we are not going to make the playoffs.

        So, while you wish him the best and hope he gets traded, I will wish him the best and hope he is still an All-Star… seems like a better use of my time.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        No one would trade for Markov with three years on his deal until they see him play x number of games and show he is back to his old self. If he is back to his old self why the heck would we trade him?

        • cthab says:

          Because his old self is only part of the equation for the type of defence this team needs. We need a defense that acts as the word describes….defend our goal tender and stand up to the goon forwards on opposing teams. CHECK/HIT whatever it takes. That in turn sends a message that also protects our forwards.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            Markov = great power play, and is extremely underrated in getting the puck out of our zone. He is a great defender. Is he physical, no, but he would be our best d man. If you want to trade someone I would trade anyone but PK, Gorges and Gill (maybe even).

      • Jordio-oh says:

        “it upsets me to see how many have short memories”

        Does this include you with regards to Markov?

        We’ve been without him (consistently) for a long time but that doesn’t mean he won’t help us when he gets back.

        If Markov comes back at the end of the November and plays the last 55-60 games and gets 35-45 points (including many on the power play) are you going to remember when you said you wanted to trade him?

        • cthab says:

          Markov has never impressed me. Give me a Hamerlik, Spacek, and a more experienced PK any day over a Markov type. That’s not to say he wouldn’t be a better or have more impact elsewhere. However, history has shown/proven that he cannot play a full season.

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      My god man! You are correct (slaps forehead)…. how come nobody else noticed this…..

  33. Mick says:

    DD is not going to help on the fourth line and he can’t go back to the Dog’s,can he ?


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