Markov out for three months?

While it will be several days before doctors can make a complete diagnosis, there are unconfirmed reports that defenceman Andrei Markov could be out of the lineup for as long as three months.

Markov suffered an injury to his surgically repaired right knee Saturday night when he had a knee-to-knee collision with Carolina’s Eric Staal as they chased a puck into the corner. Markov’s knee hit the board but it appeared that any damage had been done before then. He threw his gloves off immediaterly after the contact and punched the boards and he lay writing on the ice. Two teammates assisted him off the ice and he wasn’t putting any weight on his left leg.

It’s the third injury Markov has suffered in the past 13 months. He suffered a torn tendon when his leg was sliced by Carey Price’s skate in a freak asccident in the 2009-10 season opener in Toronto. He injured his knee in the second round of the playoffs of the playoffs against Pittsburgh and had knee surgery in the off-season. He missed the first 10 games of the regular season In the seven games since his return, Markov was averaging close to 23 minutes a game, had a goal and two assists and was a plus-2.

After the Canadiens traded Ryan O’Byrne last week, general manager Pierre Gauthier expressed confidence in Alexandre Picard and said the Canadiens had several defence prospects in Hamilton. That depth will be put to the test if Markov is out for an extended period.

The latest injury also puts any talk of a new contract for Markov on the back burner. He is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent next July.

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461 Comments

  1. krob1000 says:

    Markov when healthy is our best player…..he has not yet been healthy this season.  PK makes Markov’s loss easier to digest than in years past…he is not yet Markov of course but at this point this season he has played as well as the not yet full form Markov easily IMO.  It was fantastic having two of them out there but I am not as concerned as in years past. With Markov we are a really good team, without we are still a good team….we never actaully fully hit our stride IMO….if Markov had stayed healthy for another couple of weeks I think we would have seen our full force ability.  Markov’s poise and uncanny ability to make something out of nothing is not replaceable and that is not by any stretch what I am suggesting….but with PK and us having no tyet experienced the real Markov this year…I don’t expect this should be much of a setback….assuming the others play as they have been. 

  2. Ian Cobb says:

    NICE OODER,

    We are a first class organisation my friend. We will take care of him you can be sure. If he can no longer make the roster next year, we will have another spot for him in the franchise if he wants it.

    But lets not get ahead of ourselves here. He may come back strong.

  3. BKAK72 says:

    100% agree.

     

    – I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! –

  4. Dwayne33 says:

    sorry Ian I usually agree with your insight. But I believe Kaberle is a great dman and would fit in good with his fellow countryman pleks.

  5. ooder says:

    I would just like to say something in regards to Markov’s contract.

    Fans always talk about loyalty.. and how a player should be loyal to the franchise he plays for.

    if a player isn’t loyal and snubs his team he is booed, regarded as heartless and in it for the money.

    however, loyalty is a 2 way street…

    for example plekanec has his worst statistical season in a contract year.. but Gainey believed in him, gave him a raise and the habs were rewarded with a 75 point campaign. Also, Pleks didn’t wait till july 1 to try and find the best deal and stayed with the habs for a very fair price.

    Same thing for Carey Price.

    Now, Markov has been with this team through the best and the worst. He was on the team when his teammate was Dykhuis and when we finished first.

    He stuck with the habs through the best and the worst and through that became a fan favorite, help bring the PP constantly to the top, became one of the leagues best d-men and became an on as well as off ice leader.

    He didn’t run off to another city as soon as his contract expired and stayed with the habs, although he could be making way more money elsewhere, as well as play in a way less pressured market.

    now it’s Markov who is in tough, and if the organization doesn’t put faith in him and stand by him during his hardships like he did with Montreal then i really don’t think we can call the habs “the classiest organization in hockey” 

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  6. NightRyder says:

    “when he’s on there aren’t many who are better”

    You cannot possibly be serious.

    A. When is he ever on, as in $7.5M a year ‘on’?

    B. I don’t have enough space on 10 message boards to list everyone who is better.

    C. If you have ever been in a locker room, you know the players who suck for extended periods of time rapidly lose any influence they might have had.

  7. jimmy shaker says:

    I think it will be like this:

    PK with Gorges on the first pair

    Hammer and Spacek

    then Gill with Picard

    In a perfect world, here would be the pairings

    PK/Markov

    Gill/Gorges

    Dandenault/MAB

    SHaker

  8. Ian Cobb says:

    So he has won how many play off rounds Craig ??

  9. Ian Cobb says:

    Georges & PK

    Hammer & Spacek

    Gill & Picard

    Or exchange (PK & Picard) But the other two stay together. Me thinks

  10. habitual says:

    Size matters on D, Tom.

    White had one good year in Toronto, and has done nothing in Calgary.  He has 6 points and is – 10 this year …  16 games in …

  11. NightRyder says:

    Kaberle has played more playoff games than Markov.

  12. Storm Man says:

    This is not Xbox 360 EA sports here…..

  13. RandyKlemola says:

    The names that top my list would be Semin (LW), Moulson (LW), Backes (Centre) and maybe Upshall (RW).

  14. Storm Man says:

    I just think White is not the guy I would like to see on this team. I would go into more detail with you but some friends have come to the house going to watch some football and play some pool. Cheers for now.

  15. Ian Cobb says:

    Kaberle,!!!  Give me a break, it would take 6 months, just to get the odder off of him first. And a full year to deprogram him, playing so much time with a looser.

  16. Storm Man says:

    If you had a chance to see White live and just watch him for 20 mins you would change what you think of him. Emelin is who we need next year.

  17. TomNickle says:

    Even then we only have four defensemen under contract.  

     

  18. habstrinifan says:

    I say Georges away from Gill except on the PK is now better for Georges. I see Georges becoming more versatile and Markov level if having to adjust his mindset from being the partner of Gill

  19. TomNickle says:

    Depends on the injury he took last night if he took one at all.  He could’ve just hit it hard on Staal’s knee and it could be bruised.  

    If he needs another surgery, I wouldn’t re-sign him personally.  But I would make damn sure I had an assurance that Emelin was jumping the pond prior to cutting ties with him.

  20. Storm Man says:

    Oh……… That is better, I was thinking you were talking about making a trade for White, I still would not want to see him here. If we could get stud from the KHL here next year I would be happy.

  21. TomNickle says:

    Because they’re a bad hockey team.

    Who sees the opposing teams’ top lines on the road Tim?

    Jarome Iginla is -6, does that make him a bad hockey player?

     

  22. Dwayne33 says:

    I think The Habs should talk to Toronto. Offer a couple of draft picks(the Leafs are in desperate need of these) and maybe a prospect for Kaberle. He would look great in Montreal.

  23. adam76 says:

    True – but as you know, once you start on the “acl pain train” – you’re always one shift away from the end of your career.  With Markov turning 32, is it worth the risk?

     

  24. Storm Man says:

    Ok tell me why in the top 6 dmen in Calgary he is the only one with a -…. A 10 at that worst on the team btw Iggy is next with a -6.

  25. TomNickle says:

    What’s the price?  I’m not talking about a trade, I’m talking next summer when he’s a ufa.

    I’d rather pay $3-$3.5 million annually on a 2 or 3 year deal for him than sink a ton of money into another ufa or trade assets for somebody else in a panic move.

  26. Storm Man says:

    In all the games I have went to live and watched the other teams go at White and burn him time and time again. I understand you like him, But I feel he would not do well at all here and for the price it would take to get him.

  27. TomNickle says:

    Jesus Tim.  A -10 on one of the worst teams in the NHL playing on a bad hockey team.

    White’s a good fit for our hockey team.

    You think Spacek or Hamrlik would be fairing better in Calgary?

    It’s all about fit.  White fits.

  28. krob1000 says:

    The thing I have noticed about Markov is how despite him not playing up to his ability yet that he makes others change their games….PK, Hammer, even Spacek have been jumping into things…

    I think PK is pretty close to Markov on that first pass actually….never imagined it possible and it may not fully be but PK is an elite puck moving dman…already.  The threat with him is twofold…he can skate it out and pass it out….I think he is getting the puck out of our end better than anyone right now on pure athleticism alone.

    After seeing the clip I think best case scenario is a 3 or 4 weeks.  Even if it is just a mild tweeking given it is his surgically repaired knee they would still be cautious….with our team looking very good right now and with cap space, assets, goaltending, team d,etc…..I can’t see them taking any chances…..it may actually be better for him to be out a while so he returns completely healthy. To me it was with him out that is when the team became a team anyway….last year it was Marky’s absence that forced the team defense concept upon us, had guys buy in fully and the results carried it forward IMO…

  29. Storm Man says:

    White is a -10 Giordano is a plus 4 Bouwmeester is a plus 3 and Saric is a plus 5…. You must be watching the Flames games in 3D to think White is that good.

  30. habstrinifan says:

    I wasnt fun of the Gill/Subban pairing when it happened but I kinda wanna give it a few more games. With one HUGE HUGE proviso. I want SUBBAN to continue being brave and assertive enough to take charge of the pairing. He didnt do it first game and it was totally messy. But last two games you see more Subban showing the confidence to not defer to Gill on the pairing. And this has helped Gill who seems to be enjoying this ‘burst of excitement’.

    Lets give this pairing a few more games. I kinda like it with that proviso.

    Timid and scared to join the ‘love fest’ re this guy Subban. But MAN-OH-MAN we are so lucky as habs fans to be able to say this is OUR player. I bet 99% of the other player sin the league and 1 million % of the fans in the league and 1 zillionth % of GM’S in the league (especially some from say Tampa and Columbus and Florida etc) would give their birthright to have this guy on their team.

    I think Subban and Georges is like puting two ‘same assets’ to compete on the same line. Gill knows he’s no Subban and Subban knows the long body-reach virtues of Gill. No competition.

    I would love JM to encourage Georges to now be more than “Gill’s partner” as I stated before. I think Georges is Streit +++. Streit’s mobility with more on the defensive end.

     

  31. TomNickle says:

    If anything is certain, it’s that he’ll be a lot cheaper now that what he would’ve been without this injury.

  32. johnblaze00 says:

    anyone who thinks bieska is a good dman is an idiot and clearly hasn’t watched many canuck games. 

    i would take O’B back instead of Bieska.

  33. adam76 says:

     A 31 year old nhl dman with poor knees – I hope this franchise logically looks at his injury(s) before offering  any type of longterm contract. 

     

  34. Storm Man says:

    it would have been but his coach saved his neck….. It was getting red.

  35. TomNickle says:

    A puck moving defenseman can’t be successful on a team with no skill.

    Ian White and Jay Bouwmeester can’t thrive on that team without skill up front.

  36. Storm Man says:

    I must be watching the wrong White that wears number 3 and play’s in Calgary. Who is the guy you are taking about?

  37. TomNickle says:

    You have to consider the situation that he’s in Tim.  

    The Flames have no offense.  None.  They don’t have any skill up front with an aging Iginla and they don’t like their coach.

    It’s not easy to be a puck moving defenseman on a team that has no skill up front, just ask Jay Bouwmeester.  Or better yet, ask Tomas Kaberle, John Michael Liles, Mark Streit and Ryan Suter.

    White would thrive in this lineup.

  38. Duracell3 says:

    Tanguay basically doesn’t have shoulders, he has surgeries nearly every off-season.

  39. Mike says:

    What do you guys think the D pairings will be.

     

    I can see something like:

     

    Hammer-Subban

    Spacek-Gorges

    Gill-Picard

     

    What do you think?

  40. Mattyleg says:

    There you are!! ;-)

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. Storm Man says:

    Tom…. For real have you watched Ian White play? he is a -10 ,come on makes me sick to say this but MAB would be a better fit. I have season’s tickets to the Flames in which I give away unless a good team comes to town. Ask some Flames fans what comes to mind when you bring up Whites name. 

  42. TomNickle says:

    It’s not the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the size of the fight in the dog.

    White would step into our lineup and immediately be our second most physical defenseman behind Subban, who is only 6’0 feet tall by the way.

  43. Duracell3 says:

    As little regard I have for Burke, I think Sather found literally the only possible taker for Gomez in the league, I find it unbelievable that any other team would touch that contract.

  44. HabsFanNorway says:

    GREAT NEWS! 3 months would be great! Well rested come playoff time! (Only trying to stay positive)

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  45. HabFab says:

    Believe that Savard himself said that the injuries slowed him down physically BUT forced him to play smarter and become better all round.

  46. Duracell3 says:

    Holy crap Ed Jovanovski lol.

    Don’t worry, we can just get McCabe.

    Granted, he’s our best defenseman and probably our best player, we’ll be fine no matter how long it takes. We are very deep at the back end, I have a great amount of confidence in Picarde, Weber, Henry, and Carle. I would rather have them play 15 minutes than Spacek playing 25.

    The only thing that is questionable is how Markov’s long-term recovery will be. If all the damage was from the knee-on-knee hit, that suggests that it was pretty fragile, awkward angle but not exactly a huge amount of contact. It’ll be interesting to see what he is deemed to be worth.

  47. habitual says:

    I agree with the sentiment of your 13:08 posts, I’ve been saying we’re in for in with D next year for a couple of weeks.  I can’t agree with some of your suggestions though, White is 5’10, Pitkanin has never stuck with teams, and Erhoff wants a lot of money.  Adding Bieksa means 3 D who are UFAs next year.

     

  48. TomNickle says:

    Did we score 5 on Ward?  No

    Next question!

    Haha.

  49. TomNickle says:

    Wrong on all three Tim.

    Ian White can play the powerplay, penalty kill, awesome first pass, great shot, great speed and doesn’t shy away from contact despite his small stature.

    Pitkanen is comparable offensively to Markov and has as sound of positioning for a defenseman that you’ll find.

    I noticed you didn’t quote my comment yesterday when I said that Gionta and Plekanec would score off the rush and that our pluggers would get one or two as well.

    4 goals off the rush.

     

  50. Storm Man says:

    He was pulled and that is the only reason.

  51. TomNickle says:

    Burke won’t take Gomez.  Notice how he only gave him a token invitation to the Olympic camp last summer for team USA.  I don’t think Gauthier or Geoff Molson would want to trade Gomez anyway to be honest Brad.  He’s great in the room and when he’s on there aren’t many who are better.

    There’s no replacement for Markov on the UFA market for next summer but the closest thing to it on the left side is Pitkanen.  

    I absolutely think this team will make a run at Ian White if the cost is right.  He fits perfectly due to his variety of skills and versatility in a lineup.

     

  52. Storm Man says:

    Do you think Burke is high on coke? He would never do a trade to help the Habs…. He would pour more gas on this team to help the fire not put it out.

  53. LA Loyalist says:

    I’ve heard people from that time say that Savard would have been even better offensively if he’d not had those injuries. Can you imagine?

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  54. Storm Man says:

    For what it may take in a deal Tom, Bieksa could be a good fit. You don’t want Ian White and Pitkanen is not going anyplace. I think at this point the price is right for Bieksa.

  55. TomNickle says:

    I said we would never get 5 on Ward, and we didn’t.

     

  56. LA Loyalist says:

    Tom – as you and I usually disagree, I’d like your perspective (and guys):

    1. Burke badly needs scoring.

    2. Burke hates Kaberle.

    3. Notwithstanding my personal vendetta against nOmez, Burke may think he would be good to get the puck to Kessel. We’d have to throw in someone else. Would you do it, who else would Burke want/Could we trade? 

    It solves 2 problems, helps cover for Markov (Kaberle is no Markov, but he’s skilled) and pays for it by moving nOmez who’s useless to us anyway. 

    ?

  57. Storm Man says:

    Never say never Tom? I guess what I said about the Habs scoring 5 last night was way off… 7 was the magic number. Enjoy the games today :)

  58. TomNickle says:

    You know what scares me?  The fact that Ian White, Joni Pitkanen, Trevor Daley, Christian Erhoff, James Wiesnewski and Mark Stuart are on that list and Bieksa is the guy you want.

    No offense intended here but those players, and by those players I mean every single one of them, are head and shoulders better options and fits for this team than Bieksa.

    And you’re not solving a problem with lack of numbers by adding Bieksa to to a defense corps that only has Spacek, Subban and tentatively Gorges under contract for next year.  That’s only four guys if you add Bieksa.

  59. jimmy shaker says:

    I’ll spare you all with the MAB rants, as I know you all know where I stand in the matter.

    Shaker

  60. hab_skill says:

    After looking at that list, I would not like to re-sign Markov and Hamrlik. I would like to re-sign Gill and Gorges and also sign Bieksa.

  61. TomNickle says:

    Never say never but I think that the team is high enough on Picard that Bergeron’s phone won’t ring with Pierre Gauthier on the other end unless we sustain another injury on defense.

  62. TomNickle says:

    http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2011-nhl-free-agents-by-position-unrestricted/

    Now you go ahead and pick from that list and show me how we upgrade or even stay the course defensively by picking from that list.

  63. Mattyleg says:

    I’m waiting for the flood of pro-MAB posts from reliable sources now…

    :-)

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  64. TomNickle says:

    Yeah, I saw that same comment from you last night.  And what do we do next season for defense?  That’s the problem with armchair general managers, no long term vision.

    Next season we have Spacek and Subban under contract to play defense with Gorges as a restricted free agent.

    You want Kaberle?  That’s going to be a bidding war, not something that the Habs like to get involved in.

    Nash and Weber are only ready for spot duty, 10-15 games maximum.  Emelin is very likely ready but his decision to come over next summer might as well be a coin flip.

    So where do we go to fill out our defense?  And please keep in mind that in the following off-season, that would be a year from this coming summer, we need to give Subban and Price contract extensions and we’ll still have Gomez, Cammalleri, Gionta and Plekanec under contract.

     

     

  65. Mattyleg says:

    No, I disagree. He won’t be worried about being injured. That generally only happens to people who get head injuries, and as we’ve seen from David Booth, he’s right back in it, and not too concerned. It all depends on the player. Zednik’s hit ruined his career, but I think Marky’s made of stronger stuff.

    And I love these Xbox GMs. Tradetradetrade!!! You can get 2,000 pucks for Markov if you trade him now!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  66. Mattyleg says:

    Ah, the ol’ Atheist. Always ready to stir the pot, eh?

    Any negative comments on the past few wins? No? Hm?

    What a bore.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  67. Mattyleg says:

    Unfortunately, breaks are mych easier to repair than ligament or tendon injuries.

    I’ve got my fingers crossed.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  68. Mattyleg says:

    I think the idea is that if it’s the same kind of thing as what happened to him before (and injuries have a way of reappearing) then that’s the diagnosis. It could be nothing, but I have a feeling it might be more of the same for poor Marky.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  69. LA Loyalist says:

    You don’t trade from weakness, you trade from strength. Who would give us value for an injured guy, whomever?

    You don’t trade your best player when he’s hurt, what message does that send to the other guys?

    We didn’t keep Streit and it is the single biggest hole in our game (aside from Nomez, and the fact that Streit is out for the year 2.

    You can present the argument to trade Markov when he’s going great and we can maximize value. Make your argument at that time.

  70. TomNickle says:

    I wasn’t aware that RDS had doctors on staff who could diagnose Andrei’s injury prior to the Habs doctors or consulting orthopedists rendering their diagnosis.

    Anything for hits and viewers I suppose.  This could be as simple as it was a lot of pain and it scared him, it could be as serious as another tear, we don’t know, neither does RDS.

    Regardless, this team faces yet another obstacle which will strengthen their character and show them that they can be successful despite severe losses, next man up needs to be the reaction to injuries.

  71. soperman says:

    Geez I hope this is report is bogus.  And Markov is not injury prone, no one could have gone uninjured in his situation.  Tanguay was soft – he was hurt on pretty lame plays.

  72. oldrrty says:

    Didn’t Savard seriously break the same leg twice within a year at the start of the 70’s? Since we all know how the end of the 70’s turned out for him, lets just relax and think positive okay?

    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  73. WestHab says:

    I’m going to keep this short cause my post don’t always get through.

    Marki, GET WELL SOON!

  74. MontrealAtheist says:

    Markov should be traded next chance we get … He is too fragile and gets injured too easily. Sure, he’s great when he’s fit and in top form, but how often does that happen? For much of the past 12 months he has been injured and taking up valuable cap space that could have been put into better use.

  75. Bugs says:

    There’s no way his knee was at 100% obviously. A bodypart is tender, you can still do your thing, but one false move…

    Imo, (especially if we want him to stay for the long haul) he should sit. And I mean ‘SIT’. While he’s sitting, we sign’m. And then he resumes sitting. As long as it takes. All year? All year. As long as it takes. Until…say…May.

    Get him back CIEN por ciento.

    Not because, it cannot go on like this (cuz hey, he sure had an impact when he came back too soon last year). but because we can now win without him where we could not in the past.

    If we can afford to sit our best player in order for him to heal completely, we should seriously consider doing it, imo.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

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  76. NightRyder says:

    Bill, you’ve been here awhile. Surely you understand that panic and wild speculation are the norm.

  77. Bryan says:

    Agree with you 100%.  People take his reaction of punching the wall as proof he tore his ACL, which I think is ridiculous.  Any type of injury to that knee would hurt right now, and I’m sure he was nervous as all hell that he really damaged it again. 

    I’m holding off judgement until I hear something from the team, not those RDS hacks.

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  78. Mattyleg says:

    Nonononononononono….

    He’s DEAD. We’re all DEAD. The Habs are DEAD.

    Come live with me in my cellar. I have purified water from the ice-storm.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  79. SmartDog says:

    That’s what I thought when I saw him writhing in pain.  A tweak.  Nasty little tweak.

     

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    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  80. Bill J says:

    Has anyone thought Markov just tweaked his knee ? 

    Now some will say “It didn’t look like just a tweak”

    My answer which I believe is VERY probable.

    “He had surgery on it less then a year ago now, a bruise on that knee would feel as bad as tearing it all up again.”

    Many doom & gloomers here, but we should really wait till the Habs make a statement.

    If it’s undisclosed, and a long term injury… Be worried then.

    Let’s enjoy the HUGE win last night, and really try & focus on that positive.

  81. idle says:

    Just curious if you think there is a need for help with our defensive system.  17 games into the season and the team has not allowed more then 3 goals in regulation in any game.  They are 3’rd in the league with 2.12 goals against average and 6’th in the league in 5 on 5 goals for/against average (1.32) and this from a team that has had scoring problems for stretches so far this season.  Also 2’nd in the league in penalty killing 88.9%

    If it aint broke don’t fix it?

    At least wait awhile before deciding to make any change that could disrupt chemistry.  If it becomes an issue later in the season maybe but…

  82. ctony says:

    Yep.  That’s the CBA and that’s why CapGeek counts him.  I believe that if PG needed the room to make a deal, he could demote Boyd or move him off the books .  You can back out his number and still see that there would be lots of room for a deal.  

    Here is my prediction, based on no reports other than reading some tea leaves.  I think we trade Laps and a 3rd round pick to the (gag) Leafs for Kaberle.  Burke is under the gun.  He likes truculence and accepts guys who take stupid penalties (Laps).  I think Kaberle would waive his no trade clause to come to Montreal. See how the season plays out and then (maybe) re-sign as a UFA.  We have a strong Czech contingent (Plex, Hamrlick) so he might feel comfortable, have a similar passion for the game, and should ice a competitive team for the duration of his next deal.

    Plus, that would still leave us comfortably under the cap for a good size acquisition at trade deadline or room to make some other tweaks along the way.

     

  83. gauver says:

    with all those Czechs on the team, maybe Jagr might want to come and play in MTL too!

  84. jimmy shaker says:

    What about Dandy?  I’d love it if he were still here……he was the perfect example of hard work and intensity, shift in and shift out.  I think MAB and Dandy back on the blueline over Spacek and Hammer would be 100 times better!

    Shaker

  85. ctony says:

    Great that solves our second line winger and a PP guy.  :-)

  86. Say Ash says:

    “in the play-offs he was useless on the PP”

    fail

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xajUXMmprM4

  87. punkster says:

    I’m getting a kick out of your tag lines Clay. Keep ‘em coming :)

  88. habs365 says:

    I understand what you’re saying….not a good idea to get rid of young players….but if you have a chance of winning a cup… and you don’t get many in this new NHL…. barring injuries…. some may laugh at me for saying this….but I like our chances….if we could get a forward who could score 20-25 goals just might be the answer….I threw Iginla’s name out there….cause he would look good on the Gomez line….you know that’s not gonna happen…the NHL is screwed because of the cap space BS….as for Gomez….he’s a good third line center….puts a good effort in every game….but way over paid….his contract is preventing us from picking up one or two half decent scores…. on that note I couldn’t see any GM wanting Gomez with a contract like that….for sure not calgary, Gomez for Iginla….that’s a never….although stranger things has happened.

  89. rocketsglare says:

    Agree.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

     

  90. habs365 says:

    I still say with the right players….Iginla can still light it up and he has a good three four years left in him as a 25-30 goal scorer….besides how do you know if those 2 young forwards are gonna be any good down the road….remember you don’t get many chances to win a cup in this new NHL….and if you don’t gamble you may have blown your chance….and by the way after you’ve won a cup you gotta pretty much blow your team up anyway….look no further than the chicago blackwawks.

  91. habs365 says:

    you have to buy a stanley cup today….the Habs didn’t spend their money wisely….to many over paid players and so far nothing to show for it….it’s like spending a lot of money to buy a business and you’re getting very little return….not long and you go under….that’s my point with over paid players.

  92. notbigbird says:

    To each their own, but I can hardly believe what I just read.

  93. habsruleworld says:

    from hockey buzz site ,,,,,,,,On the Habs…

    Word’s out the Canadiens are looking like they are finally addressing the concern on defense. You won’t find a bigger fan of PK Subban than myself. If every NHL player was like PK Subban the NHL would be the most popular sports league on earth. And Markov is a great player. A definitive All-Star, no matter who’s picking, but he is at best injury-proned, at worst a problem.

    Yesterday the Habs traded O’Byrne to the Avs for a prospect. Now I was never a huge O’Byrne fan, but the Habs aren’t really in the position to go trading a D-man with size unless there is something else on the horizon. You can be assured the Habs front office remembers how the ability to fight off bigger forwards in front was the eventual downfall last year.

    The two names I am hearing are of course Bieksa and also, Robyn Regehr.

    One source told me…”There is a deal in the works. 95% done.”

     

    anyone on here have any additional information related to the above?

  94. Propwash says:

    If it’s 95%, its probably that other 5% that is what is really gonna happen.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  95. habsruleworld says:

    lol,, you are most likely right on that!

  96. Habs.Prophet says:

    Smart Dog making regular posts on this forum is a GOOD sign.  Have faith Habs nation have faith I say!  Lars Eller will surprise us!  Both the weak AND strong elements on this team will bubble together in an alchemical brew which will be the elixir of victory, the elixir of glory!  Let us stay humble on this journey and have the prayer on our lips at all times. 

  97. SeriousFan09 says:

    There’s a 99.99% chance Eklund is full of crap as usual.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  98. SmartDog says:

    Well I’m glad to be a sign!  As long as I’m not a sign of the apocalypse!

    Thinking of changing my name to Dyslexic Dog. :P

     

  99. showey47 says:

    not sure if i should be excited or concerned but bournival now has more points then leblanc with the same amount of games played.

  100. Bill J says:

    Excited – Leblanc will catch up ;)

    Either way, Habs have em both :D

    Price no longer has a Glove side issue.

  101. smiler2729 says:

    Yeah, e3

  102. smiler2729 says:

    What prospects in Hamilton?? Carle? Weber?

  103. Hagar says:

    Did Price ever have a glove side issue? I mean the puck’s gotta go in somewhere and it always goes in somewhere more than others. I think someone (zepfan?) showed the stats for where the goals have been going in on Carey & Halak & the stats showed his glove side wasn’t really that weak. If I remember right it was Halak that actually allowed a higher percentage of goals in glove side. This whole Carey’s got a weak glove hand is bogus on top of being stupid.

  104. Mothstoflame says:

    Everybody has wasted to much time talking about how we all feel, when we can all just yell ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P

  105. Hagar says:

    Weber baby. Weber.

  106. Mothstoflame says:

    well if they made nhl 11 with nhl stats, then price’s glove side sucks.  needs to be upgraded big time ;)

     

  107. Ian Cobb says:

    In the 30 team league, here is where we place
    and how we have progressed this week. Keeping in mind, some teams have
    games in hand and the season is young.

     

     

    Goals Against—36.  We are in  4th place.    Last week we were in 10th.

    Total Points—–23.  We are in  5th place.    Last week we were in   7th.

    Goals For——–46.  We are in 15th place.    Last week we were in  19th

     

    A nice little move up, in all major areas this week.

  108. WarHero says:

    What a great win for the Ottawa 67’s today! That makes the weekend a full sweep!

    Is there any other top line in the OHL as good as theirs is right now? ….. I’d find it hard to believe!

    Toffoli with 2 goals for 18 on the year, Martindale with 2 goals for 14
    on the year and Prince with 4 points to give him 35 on the year! I can’t
    want to do my next predictions article!

    For an indepth review of the game visit: http://liveblog.ottawa67shub.com

    Please leave a comment! I promise to read them all!

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  109. Bill J says:

    I agree – this is just video evidence, I read someone use his glove as a lamo argument the other day… lol

    :)

    Price no longer has a Glove side issue.

  110. Hagar says:

    Haven’t played NHL ’11. That said, I have a hard time believing that their attention to detail for every player is so meticulous that they actually pulled down the zone stats for every goaltender playing, and all the goals they allowed, and implemented it flawlessly into their game. I doubt it. If they actually did that, then I tip my hat to the team at EA.

  111. SmartDog says:

    Oh man, that’s an e10.

  112. VancouverHab says:

    Bugs, below, makes to (albeit reluctantly and more-in-sorrow-than-in-hate) throw Hamrlik under the bus.

    Am I alone in thinking that Hamr does not get 1/2 the respect that he deserves from Hab fans & journalists? He never seems to be loved: yet he is skilful, reliable and a workhorse and loyal to the core. What is stopping the plaudits? 

  113. Chuck says:

    Nice. Our team is really coming together. We’ll find a way to get by without Markov.

    Canadiens to push NHL for new ‘Markov Rule’

  114. nickster13 says:

    guys i need help! how do i get tickets. And id rather not be forced to pay more than their worth. Can i do it through the habs website at a certain day or something?

    Help! thanks in advance!

  115. Chuck says:

    I think that there are a small number of tickets that go on sale the 15th of each month, for the following month’s games.

    Canadiens to push NHL for new ‘Markov Rule’

  116. Bred says:

    Did anyone else see what Avery did today?  I mean Smid was “sort of” asking for it, but Jeez… He wonders why he gets such a bad rap.

  117. Hagar says:

    One more thing. I’m not even aware of the NHL keeping track of this sort of stat. The stats I saw were likely compiled by some nutty Habs fan. Do you believe any fan in Phoenix knows or gives a damn how many goals went through their goaltender’s 5-hole last season?

  118. punkster says:

    Count me as one who sees the value in Hamrlik.

    By the way, I didn’t get the impression Bugs was throwing anyone under the bus from his comment.

    Edit: Sorry VH but I hate that expression. It gets used so carelessly by people who sometimes like to make more of an issue or a comment than is really there or what was actually said. They may feel it gives them some sort of street cred. In that regard I could misinterpret your comment as throwing Bugs under the bus and I don’t believe that was your intent.

     

  119. Julie H says:

    Not saying we don’t need Markov, just want to point out the fact that we’ve won quite a few games without him. And besides which he is a strong guy. It might not be as bad as we all think and he might come back earlier than expected. Either way? I wouldn’t count us out by a long shot

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  120. since1988 says:

    check StubHub sometimes they have tickets for under their actual value…i dont know if that applies to games in montreal but it does for games in buffalo

    “When people agree with me i always feel that i must be wrong” – Oscar Wilde

  121. Julie H says:

    Correct. Direct quote from the Habs website:

    November 15, 2010 at 10:00 a.m.: 5 games of December
    (the purchasing link will be posted on this page November 15)
    Purchase limit: One game per person with a maximum of 4 tickets for the selected game
    Only one transaction per person is allowed.

    To access the on-sale, check into the virtual waiting room November 15 between 9:30 a.m. and 10:00 a.m.

    Random draw in effect to determine order of purchase. Quantities are limited.

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  122. Chuck says:

    Thank goodness for the Hammer. If not for him, what would thay have done with all of those #44 jerseys after Souray left town?  :)

    Seriously though, the guy is a big asset.

    Canadiens to push NHL for new ‘Markov Rule’

  123. kempie says:

    So after this season is over, would you rather have Hamr for one more year @$5.5M or Statch @ $3.85? Not such an easy one is it? I’m tempted to say Hamr but you’re right he deserves some respect.

  124. Julie H says:

    Avery is just a general jerk. Read what he said about his time playing against the Leafs:

    “I never enjoy playing in Toronto really. Why? I don’t enjoy hockey-obsessed Canadians. The exchange rate is not very good right now. And it’s going to cost me a lot of money for tickets for people I don’t even like. How’s that for a list?”

    Apparently he was laughing about it. That’s about as funny as him waving his arms in front of Brodeur’s face during the playoffs or hitting Tim Thomas in the back of the head with his stick during a commercial break. I will be stunned if he doesn’t get into a few well-deserved scraps with players twice his size that he can’t run away from.

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  125. WestHab says:

    Humm. Regehr in Montreal? I’ll have to sniff around these parts for some smoke on that bs.

  126. MTLForever says:

    that was dirty, don’t act like you are not going to fight and then just attack the guy

  127. ctony says:

    Can we jettison both of them and get $9m in cap room?

  128. Hagar says:

    I found the whole screening of Brodeur episode hilarious

  129. Julie H says:

    Truth be told I was laughing when it happened, but afterwards I didn’t know what to think. Here’s a quote from Don Cherry on the matter:

    “I’ve known this kid since he was about 16 years old; Once a jerk, always a jerk. You can’t blame the referee, because ‘he couldn’t believe what he was seeing”

    “I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”

  130. J Haul says:

    Agreed, Avery is hilarious!

  131. Timo says:

    I haven’t heard anything, but then again, I don’t give rat’s behind about the flames. My buddy says Regehr has been ok this year… not sure what that means. 

  132. Big Bird says:

    Couple of cents from the peanut gallery:

    (1) The injury to Andrei Markov is a real shame but I’d caution against dealing him.  A few years ago (1989-1990) we had a Norris trophy defenseman on our team who suffered a knee injury.  People said he’d never be the same as he a lot of injuries that season.  So we dealt him to the Chicago Blackhawks for Denis Savard.  His name was Chris Chelios. 

    (2) All I’m suggesting is we wait to see what the medical analysis is and Markov’s return (if/when) it happens.  He may have had tough luck but I wouldn’t not resign him simply because of that injury.  We need him there for guys like Subban, Carle, Weber, Tinordi. In fact, I’d keep Hamrlik around as well.

    (3) I’d also still like the Canadiens to see if they can get Larry Robinson behind the bench for our defense.  New Jersey isn’t doing so hot these days so maybe we can get the Old Big Bird back to where he belongs.  (Well a guy can dream can’t he?)

     

  133. Timo says:

    Larry Robinson would be good, but honestly, I don’t see him and JM working out. Larry commands authority and respect and that won’t sit well with JM, I don’t think so. Besides, if what is said about that not returned phone call is true, why would Robinson consider working with these very same people?

  134. Bugs says:

    The Hamr gets ALL my respect, Couvie. Always said so. He’s been a real trooper from the second he signed with us and his presence is such (please consider this) that the Kostitsyn scandal of a few years ago, which he was associated with if you remember, ran off his duck’s back. Why? Because his play was consistently solid and that’s all we care about. Furthermore, he stepped up his game when Marky went down last year and took COMMAND of the blue line. The Hamr is a mensch in my book. Excellent services rendered.

    But business is business, Couvie.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

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  135. VancouverHab says:

    I’ve understand the phrase “throwing under the bus” (which I confess to using carelessly) to mean “jettison” (throw overboard to stabilise a vessel in distress.) The ‘bus’ metaphor –usefully, it seems to me–adds the element of expediancy to the concept.

    So this is how I understood Bugs to be talking about Hamr…. (i.e. I’m not throwing Bugs under the bus. But credit to you for the witty remark.)

  136. JIMVINNY says:

    So that Tampa Bay team that everyone was so excited about has now lost 3 in a row, lost more games than they’ve won, and have given up 6 goals more than they have scored.  Oh, and their 10 million dollar man is going to miss the next month after hand surgery.  Yeah, Stamkos is downright awesome.  But as we’ve seen so many times before, one guy can’t do it on his own.  St. Louis is old, their defense is bad, and their goaltending is putrid.

     

    So what was everyone so pumped up about again?

     

  137. Propwash says:

    See the forest through the trees, the Habs had a winning record without Markov. It still can be done.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  138. SeriousFan09 says:

    Guy Boucher would heal Lecavalier of all the injuries that have hampered his career, inspire Smith and Ellis to Price-level and somehow the opposition wouldn’t notice their D has the strength of a six-pack of Bud Light.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  139. sidhu says:

    If we call-up a defenseman from Hamilton, who is top on the list for a call-up?

    Carle?  Weber?  Henry?

  140. sidhu says:

    Smid did the character thing, to stand up for his teammate and challenge Avery. 

    Avery did the exact opposite – a sucker-punch, a total gutless play as one Oiler said after the game.

    I credit the Oilers for displaying that sort of team identity, they may be losing but they are sticking up for one another.  I earned respect for Smid, Whitney, and Peckham, all of whom stood up for their boys.

     

  141. sidhu says:

    Spaceman is already signed for another year.  Hammer will become a UFA though.

  142. JIMVINNY says:

    Naturally.  Anyways, I’m sure he’s just lulling the rest of the eastern conference into a false sense of security, and when the opportunity presents itself, he’ll strike with the wrath of GUY!

  143. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Hammer at 1.75 mil on a one year would be agreeable and Spatch to KHL….. Go and trade for Bomiester(spelling)!

  144. vanderglenn says:

    Weber I’d say, considering the pp will be in dire straits again with Markovs’ absence. Or we could offer Chelios a contract?

  145. kempie says:

    Oh yeah I know. I’m just playing “would you rather”.

  146. SeriousFan09 says:

    Weber if Martin wants to address PP issues (But considering Weber’s defensive issues and rookie status, can’t see him being a JM favourite) I think Carle or Nash are more likely, pack more size on their frame and play more defensively.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  147. NightRyder says:

    Here’s a list of d-men that could potentially be available in case Markov is done for the year.

    Shea Weber, NAS, RFA

    Weber would be the home run and cost the most, both now and in the future. But Nashville has a host of good young d-man prospects and may be willing to part with Weber rather than continue with a big ticket down the line.

    Ed Jovanovski, PHO, UFA
    Tomas Kaberle, TOR, UFA
    Kevin Bieksa, VAN, UFA
    Sami Salo, VAN UFA
    Bryan McCabe, FLA, UFA
    James Wisniewski, NYI, UFA
    Scott Hannan, COL, UFA
    Paul Mara, ANH UFA
    Brent Sopel, ATL UFA
    Karlis Skrastins, DAL UFA

    The UFAs are listed in order of their potential usefulness, as well as the cost to acquire them. I’m not huge on rentals however, but since our prospects haven’t exactly set the world on fire, moving a few of them probably wouldn’t hurt as much as you’d think. Jovo is almost like an older version of PK, high-risk, high reward, but a little tougher. Kaberle would be the most logical fit to replace Markov, but Burke would want too much and isn’t likely to deal a prized asset to the Habs. Either Bieksa or Salo will be expandable cap-wise by the Canucks once Salo is healthy. Salo is actually the better player, but is so fragile he makes Markov look like Garry Unger. Bieksa has hit a plateau, but is versatile enough to play in all situations and has some toughness. Both Canucks are right-handed, which might help if we find one to pair with Spacek. I’ve never been a huge fan of McCabe; like Wisniewski’s grit, and the rest are simply space-fillers (I’m looking at you Mara).

    Brian Campbell, CHI, 3 years, $7.1M hit
    Robyn Regehr, CAL 2 years, 4M 
    Brent Burns, MIN, 1 year, 3.5M 
    Kurtis Foster, EDM, 1 year, $1.8M 
    Joe Corvo, CAR, 1 year, 2.2M 

    The rest are guys we’d have to pay for another year (at least). I’m guessing the Hawks would love to move Campbell’s deal, though having he and Gomez make a combined $14.5M would make my head explode. Regehr makes sense as a minutes eater and replacement next year for Hamrlik, Minny might move Burns, who might help the power play. Foster would be a great cheap addition (he’s also decent on the PP) if the Oilers continue to suck and Corvo simply fills out my list.

    Talk amongst yourselves, and forgive me if Markov is back next week!

  148. Da Hema says:

    Bugzed: I have to concede Hamrlik and Spacek too (the defensive geezers…or “Deezers” as I will refer to them now) do play when it counts. The Deezers are looking better and better as each game progresses.

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  149. sh00n says:

    Any of Jovo, Bieksa, Wisniewski, Regehr would be fantastic. But I would go absolutely ape**** if we managed to land Shea Weber or Brent Burns.

  150. SUMO says:

    Well if anyone knows anything abt jerks its the king of a-holes, Don Cherry.

  151. Bryan says:

    Not a chance in hell Nashville trades Weber.  They just made him captain.

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    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  152. sidhu says:

    Add to the list:

    Chris Campoli – Ottawa has extra defensemen now that Kuba is back, and Campoli is boys with Cammy and Pricey.
    Bruno Gervais – in the doghouse in NYI, has been playing forward (a la Streit) because of their logjam at D.

    Personally, I’d like to see someone from Hamilton get a shot, but if we make a trade, I’d like to see Bieksa, Smid, Peckham, or, wait for it, wait for it, Souray, who should be back from his hand injury very soon.

  153. VancouverHab says:

    Then consider yourself ‘Comedically understood‘, then, O Great Bugs: thou hast here warmed my Hamr-loving heart, lo to its sub-cocular regions…

  154. habaddict_andy says:

    It does not well when signing expensive player unless you are building a team from bottom. Look at Calgary, they signed Boumeester who is a pretty good player but the plan has not worked for them too well. Same goes to Kovalchuk. It’s better to build a team around good players rather than just dumb the guy in and hope it works.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  155. since1988 says:

    Would that Regehr contract be for 2 more years at 2 million? that would be not a bad option if we had to trade just because Hammer is a free agent and for that money u can play him on the 3rd pair

    “When people agree with me i always feel that i must be wrong” – Oscar Wilde

  156. Mr.Hazard says:

    Mathieu Dandenault?

  157. habsperspective says:

    How about UFAs still available.

    Kim Johnsson

    Garnet Exelby

    M. Schneider

    MAB, (bad plus minus, is better thne no power play).  DPP, like DH

    Andreas Lilja

    Jay Mckee

    Shane Hnidy

    Or maybe convince a Neidermeyer, or a Blake to unretire.

  158. rocketsglare says:

    I am looking forward to tomorrow’s game against the Flyers. The way both team’s have been

    playing recently, this game should be a barn burner.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  159. The Cat says:

    Just watch him, Subban’s got to be The Man and he will be The Man.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  160. Clay4bc says:

    Good plan!

    Make it so, number one!

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  161. ctony says:

    great background.  the toronto media thinks kaberle is overpaid at $4.5m and expects a 2nd to 3rd round picks for the pending ufa.

  162. namgel says:

    This may be wishfull thinking but Markov was wearing a brace on that knee that should have prevented any major damage.  That being said here’s hoping its just a tweak.

  163. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    Appreciate all the work involved in your post.

    No need to get excited about Weber or Burns as trade potential  – Habs have as much hope of getting either D from respective teams as trading for Crosby or OV. Weber is one of the top five D in the NHL, and Burns is the only sure thing that the Wild have other than Koivu.

    Foster played great last year for min $$, has the size and shot to assist, is younger, and looks to have fully recovered from a terrible leg break a few years ago.

  164. twocents says:

    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention this in my previous comments on the subject; Eric Stall is a filthy puke.

  165. habs365 says:

    Injuries happen….if you’re gonna get rid of money everytime the team has an injury….this team will never get any better….certainly they must have one good defenseman in hamilton they can bring up if need be….you can’t fold the team because markov is injured….he’s only one player and injury prone….this team has to move forward….markov or no markov….we all know he’s a great defenseman and the team is better with him….having said that the team has to find a way to keep on winning without him….spending money on another defenseman is gonna hurt them come trade time….we’ve wasted 20% of the Habs budget on players now that’s not exactly lighting it up….anyway do whatever….we should be looking for someone who can put the puck in the net 20-25 times a year….that’s what we need….you’re not gonna win a cup just with defense….we proved that last year and with the offense we have right now….if we make it…. looks like a repeat of last year….I say wait for a honest report on markov….in the mean time….keep looking for a good forward….we have a real good team here….all we need is that one forward that can get the big goal when you need it….kostitsyn-Gomaz-Iginla wouldn’t be to shabby….pouliot and Eller going the other way….start working on it PG….good for both teams.

  166. gauver says:

    I wouldn’t take Iginla at this point in his career, particularly with the size of his contract.  He is still a good player but no longer a great player and we can do better for that kind of money.

  167. samTHEman says:

    You forgot MAB. WTF is wrong with you?

    No but seriously, Weber traded is out of the question. Nashville will DEFINATELY lock him up. How can they not?

    Weber (most likely unavailable), Kaberle (could be an option, probably too expensive for my liking), Jovanovski (great addition), Regehr (needed toughness), Campbell (great puck mover, gomezlike contract, so no), Bieksa (inconsistent but good addition), Wisniewski (could be an interesting option if others don’t work out).

    Gorges will most likely be extended. That only really leaves PK, Gorges, Spacek penciled in for next season. Markov is a big question mark. Hamrlik is most likely gone unless he’s willing to take a SERIOUS pay cut, and then again better off replacing him with someone younger. Gill, I can see them resign him 1 year if he plays well the rest of the season. He’s a proven Playoff performer,  leader in the locker room, but age is a huge factor.

    Realistically, for a rental this season, my picks would be:

    1. Kaberle. Considering we don’t overpay.

    2. Jovanovski

    3. Bieksa. Canucks may be willing to take less for him when their D is 100% healthy.

    4. Regehr. Brings the grit we needed last year in the deep playoff run.

  168. idle says:

    I doubt anything will happened at least for awhile.  Picard played well at the start of the season, has shown to be competent in his own zone and was/is a plus 7.  They will play a few games as is and if they still feel they need help on D they will make a call up first IMO.

    I would like to see them move Gorges back onto the second power play unit.  He did not get much play time there (mostly due to the first powerplay unit and especially PK staying out for a minute and a half most power plays) but he did show some new abilities to be a bit more mobile and to get an improving shot on net.  I’m not talking lights out or anything but I saw some potential there, and he is tied for the team lead in power play goals…. with 1  : )

  169. G-Man says:

    Iginla 5 seasons ago, yes. Now? No- talk about a cap hit for not producing.

    Throwing away not 1, but 2 young forwards for a 34 year old- that is a huge step backwards.

  170. ctony says:

    I still like the MAB as one solution.  In the interim he is a PP specialist, knows our PP system, personnel, coaches, and could be signed cheaply.  His addition with AM on LTIR would still give us enough cap room to make a major addition.

     

    Yes, he is a huge defensive liability and can’t play as a forward or defenseman against physical teams.  But consider this, players like Eller, Boyd (before he was waived) average less than 10 minutes per game.  If JM gave MAB PP time (say 1 minute per PP or 4-5 minutes per game), we could sit a Pyatt-type fourth line winger. 

     


  171. andrewberkshire says:

    Trading two young players for an old player is a recipe for disaster in the NHL. Not to mention, where are you getting this magical 7 million in cap space?

    The only way this team could ever trade for Iginla would be if Gomez went the other way.

  172. gauver says:

    Boumeester has not played nearly well enough to justify his cost.  I like him where he is

  173. ctony says:

    I agree with you, giving up young players for older guys with big, long term contracts is a mistake.  But, if AM goes on LTIR, we add about 3/4 (60+ out of 82 games) of his $5.5 million salary.  That, plus Boyd, plus O’Byrne gives us enough room to bring in a really expensive player for the remainder of this season.  If we don’t plan to re-sign Hamrlick and don’t resign AM for next year, we actually have a decent amount of cap room to retain a big salary for 2011/12.  

    Bad things happen.  Losing AM would be bad.  But good GM have to adapt to these events.  Hopefully PG can do something positive with this situation.

     

    I did a quick calculation based on CapGeek’s numbers.  They have our cap number at $1.5m, add to that 80% of $650,000 of Boyd’s salary (his still in their number) and assuming AM goes on LTIR for the rest of the season (worst case), so add another 75% of $5.5 million and you get $6.2 million.  That means we can add $8.2 million in salary for the pro rated 75% of the season.  

    I am not advocating taking on a huge salary.  But we could afford one.

     

  174. munch17 says:

    Please – no MAB.

    He was a good solution at the beginning of last year.

    But towards the end and in the play-offs he was useless on the PP and a liability everywhere else.

    Once he was pressured he coughed up the puck on the point on a regular basis.

  175. andrewberkshire says:

    Boyd is still counted against the cap because he didn’t go anywhere. He’s still on the team, he went unclaimed.

  176. samTHEman says:

    IMO Weber should get the call up. He looked more ready to play in camp. He’s got a LETHAL point shot. Should give him a try.

  177. SeriousFan09 says:

    He’s not good enough in his own end to play in the NHL without being a MAB-type liability IMO.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  178. LA Loyalist says:

    He misses ALL the games (yeah, I bit) :)

     

  179. habstrinifan says:

    Ouch! Just spoke to Mrs Gomez and she says she’s got her ‘eyes’ on you. Like Palin she can not only see Russia from her back window but can see you toiling somewhere in Siberia.

  180. Bugs says:

    That kinda reply was a little too funny, Ryder. Folks might not see the wisdom behind it.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  181. NightRyder says:

    Under your scenario, then no.

  182. Bugs says:

    Harsh.

    But defendable.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  183. Bugs says:

    Must agree.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  184. likehoy says:

    i would like to remind everyone the resurgence of price can be attributed to markov telling price to work hard or go home

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  185. Bill J says:

    How’s left field look lately likehoy ? WTH ??? lol

    Are you seriously implying we should “Koivu” Markov ???

    Markov’s value to this team will sink if this injury is long term, and I believe the team learned a lesson when they let Saku go.

    People should prepare themselves for Markov’s departure…

  186. matraque says:

    It’s MAB Time!

    If we don’t sign him, Tampa or San Jose will… Just watch.

    MAB wants to play here… let’s bring him back.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  187. jimmy shaker says:

    I love it, the MAB buzz is heatin up!  He should be signed either today or tomorrow, play a couple of games in Hamilton this week  and be ready to go vs the buds on Saturday night.  I’m probably pushing the envelope so we’ll get him back in the lineup sometime next week me thinks.

    Shaker

  188. alfieturcotte says:

    Given the “genius” of PG, perhaps we should expect to soon read that he offered Michael Bournival and a 2nd round draft choice for O’B…..

  189. matraque says:

    O’Byrne was useless for us…

    Delay of game anyone?

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  190. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Nope, not giving up on him at all. I just think it might be a good idea to think ahead to next season as well, when Hamrlik, Gill, and Markov are UFAs and Gorges and Picard are RFAs.

    Weber should be in the mix next year, but having a 26 yr old defenceman with almost 400 games of NHL experience would also be useful.

  191. Bugs says:

    Fersure, Josh is staying. I think we can also consider Marky a certainty, depite, well, you know. I’m also gettiing the feeling that Gill will be staying. Yeah, he’s slow and he gets outdeked every second shift, but we all love him and he’s there when it’s all on the line, and he gets. It. Done. Gosh knows how, but he gets it done.

    The Hamr’s the one might be leaving, gosh bless’m. Love the guy; services rendered with brio, far as I’m concerned. But…looks like it might be the end.

    Liberates one spot. Just one. Which can be Picard’s if he plays on the cheap first and foremost. And Webber next if he’s up to snuff.

    Which is why, imo, we don’t NEED to “consider White” or anyone else at the moment.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  192. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I guess it’s just me, but I’d prefer to replace Hamrlik and Gill with White and Weber. Which would give us:

    Markov-Gorges

    Subban-White

    Spacek-Weber

    Picard.

     

    When Spacek leaves after next season we have another spot for Emelin/Carle/Nash/Tinordi/some UFA.

  193. NightRyder says:

    Agreed.

    Giving a kid a shot before signing the predictable mediocre veteran would be a nice change.

  194. Seps says:

    Exactly, Weber is tearing up the AHL this year (11 points in 13 games).  That’s what I was saying further down

     

    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  195. andrewberkshire says:

    You have to take what you can get, and at this point Weber might need some NHL experience to improve his defensive play. From what I’ve seen he’s already a better defensive player than Bergeron is. He gets a little jittery, but he doesn’t constantly give the puck up into the slot in his own zone.

  196. samTHEman says:

    We’ll have to see right?

  197. SeriousFan09 says:

    I wouldn’t throw him out into an NHL game myself unless more injuries happened and MTL had no choice, I know we sometimes critique JM’s preference for veterans over rookies but while I think JM knew MAB was never going to be a defensive expert, I don’t think he’d tolerate any rookie playing for him being inadequate defensively and given a lot of minutes, hence even more wear and tear for the old guys on D.

    I think Carle or Nash might get spot duty, bigger players and have better positioning.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  198. LA Loyalist says:

    FYI w MAB Habs will be SOL on defense.

     

     

    “NSF, OOL, MSNBC”

  199. Bill J says:

    I do believe Bugs is a smart guy, but let’s not believe his pretentiousness is a mark of genius.

    He has recently been humbled, and I am noticing him trying.  Let’s not call “genius” quite yet OK.

     

    Aye Aye Aye as Brunet would say…

  200. Bugs says:

    Which is what I’ve been tellin the folks at Nobel for years but they keep hanging up on me!

    Idiots…

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  201. Bugs says:

    Humbled?

    I didn’t get humbled, I got my azz kicked, Billy. Brought it on myself. Got what I deserved.

    But I was humble to begin with. Hell, I’m the humblest guy in the world. No one is more humble than me. I’m the best at being humble, I assure you.

    I’ve also come to the conclusion that, you know what? All things considered, the future, the restrcitions, the player movement, the situation contractually across the League, Lars Eller is DANG good deal. I realize that now. Last night again, he showed some presence even playing small minutes with small players, also made a VERY nice play towards the end of the game when he circled the net and came back off the boards to get a shot off, that was VERY nice and truly, in another years or two, which was the plan to begin with in acquiring him, he may very well develop into that dangerous top-line forward he was expected to develop into and the best thing for him now indeed is to pursue his training up here, especially since he is quickly learning the defensive game, as we have seen with our own eyes in his pk abilities, so that the offensive production will be bound to manifest itself.

    I was too hard on him and that was wrong and in the manner of defending my position, I was bound to rub folks the wrong way and appear as a total jerk, which is what happened, and I got everything I deserved in comeuppance for it.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  202. HabFab says:

    Not sold on the humble part but you are at least reflective.

  203. HabFab says:

    Originality not pretension.

  204. Bill J says:

    No – you’re wrong.  And even HE knows it.

    He was pretentious, I am at a loss as to how you could call it originality.

     

  205. JIMVINNY says:

    Apparently the irony of claiming to be the most humble person in the world was totally lost on you.

  206. habaddict_andy says:

    Always hilarious Mr. Bugs. Maybe if you stop calling they’ll call you. LOL

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  207. habaddict_andy says:

    Imagine Plekanec and Eller centering top two line 2 years from now. By then Gomez’s contract could be attractive to struggling franchise cap hit wise with smaller pay.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  208. Fred D says:

    “Takes one to know one” and there is a dearth of people with that natural ability.

  209. HabFab says:

    LMAO…us arguing over Bugs! That ego of his will be even bigger then before,please!

  210. HabFab says:

    And my whole line was what?

  211. Bill J says:

    K call me confused then lol

    I didn’t catch humor in your posts, my bad.

  212. HabFab says:

    “Tragically misunderstood, please bite”

     

    Genius is rarely understood or appreciated, mon ami!

     

  213. JohnBellyful says:

    Here’s an update on Markov’s status, courtesy of Heuters, the news agency blah blah blah

    MONTREAL – As the Montreal Canadiens prepare once again for life without their top defenceman, the team has devised a plan to protect Andrei Markov’s health when he returns to action.
    Markov injured his right knee Saturday when he collided with Carolina’s Eric Staal and could be out for three months. It’s the third time the star defenceman has been sidelined with a leg injury in the last 13 months.
    “We’re not sure when Andrei’s going to be ready to play again but when he is, we want to make sure he stays healthy for a long time,” Hab coach Jacques Martin told reporters Monday.
    Assistant coach Perry Pearn explained how the team intends to protect its top asset:
    “We’ve told Andrei that when he returns he is NOT to play anywhere near the end boards or around our net as these seem to be workplace hazards for him.”
    Pearn said the restriction should not hamper Markov’s effectiveness.
    “You can’t score a goal from behind the net, and he does have a partner to clear away opponents from in front of the goal, which, let’s face it, Andrei doesn’t do much of now anyway,” Pearn said. “It will still allow him to make those great outlet passes.”
    The team has modelled its deployment of Markov after the tabletop hockey game, in which defenders move along a track on their side of the ice in their own end.
    The Canadiens already employ a similar system with one of its other defenceman, Hal Gill, based on an older version of the tabletop game, in which the players are stationary but swivel.
    Pearn explained Markov will still be allowed to jump into the play in the other team’s end.
    “We don’t want him to become a player with a one-track mind,” he said.”Those kinds of players we trade.”
    Pearn said bad luck might have been a factor in Markov’s injuries so the team also intends to supply him with a lucky rabbit foot and implant a horseshoe.
    At least one reporter was skeptical the Canadiens would limit the movements of their most valuable player and directed his questions to Markov, who sat in a wheelchair with both legs in a cast as a precaution.
    “Andrei, I’m finding this hard to believe: You won’t be allowed to play in front of your own net?
    “Nyet,” Markov replied, nodding his head.
    “Yeah, net. That’s what I’m asking. Are you okay with being told not to go anywhere near your own net?
    “Nyet,” Markov replied, shaking his head.
    “Yes, net, you dumb Russkie! What are you, hard of hearing? I said net! NET!”
    The press conference was quickly ended before the two men came to blows.
    It appeared Markov might have broken his arm as he tried to wheel away.

    “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.”

  214. samTHEman says:

    Damn man you had me excited with “update on Markov’s status”.

  215. andrewberkshire says:

    Lame.

  216. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Fun read and anyone who finds it lame has got to go out there and have some fun,seriously! I think that THEY SHOULD USE THE AIR HOCKEY approach with Markey Markov and insist he play in Goaltender gear…….

  217. Bill J says:

    LOL – yes thus the reason for my post, to add perspective and a bit of calm to the equation.

    But I do “understand”, does it make it right to allow it to go on without mentioning a possible other side of the coin ?

     

  218. Bill J says:

    Bugs…  Excellent post, mon ami ;)

    If the team intends on truly keeping him long term, they would be best to do what you propose.

    If it means he is gone for this entire season, so be it.

    Otherwise, refer back to my suggestion, people should be ready for Markov’s departure.

  219. andrewberkshire says:

    Very good point Bugs. In years past we couldn’t afford to be without Markov for extended periods, this team is much better and seems to be able to handle it, even if it does impact the team in a big way. Let him sit out as long as it takes to be completely game ready physically and mentally, don’t let him rush himself back.

  220. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Just posted the following above, and then saw your comment below. As you can see, I agree (which makes for a happy little rhyme.

    “Must admit, I felt very uncomfortable about his return last month. It seemed a might hasty, just like the previous time. Reconstructive surgery on a knee takes a mighty long time to heal to the point where they tendons can take any added strain. He should, at the very least, been wearing one of those light-weight supportive braces.

    I hope this time they are extra cautious about his return. If they have to wait until the All-star break, fine.”

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  221. Bugs says:

    Agree. When he came back, there was doubt.

    There should be no doubt. Especially now that we can afford and DOUBLE-especially if we want to keep him for the long haul.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  222. HardHabits says:

    The worse thing about Markov’s last three near the board injuries courtesy of Grabovksi, Cooke and Staal is seeing Markov writhing in pain and selling his immediate discomfort. I am thinking maybe his physical frame is not up to support his game anymore. Either that or his decision making process isn’t taking into consideration his limitations. It’s certainly unlucky but you have to wonder about his ability to avoid these injuries. Something is wrong with his head game if he’s commiting himself to being in akward circumstances that result in his getting hurt. The freakishness is beyond bizarre. You have to look at athletes that do not get injured versus those who get injured frequently. More often than not it’s more psychological, as in mental acuity versus having a mental lapse, than anything physical.

  223. Mattyleg says:

    Have to disagree with you there, HH, I didn’t see anything wrong with Marky’s decision-making.

    You’re right that it is freakish, but whaddayagonnado? I don’t think that Markov is susceptible to injuries because of anything he’s doing wrong. Honestly.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  224. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Talk of a new contract for Markov? I think not. Wish him well but we need to move on when his contract expires. Very good defenceman but injury prone in his later years, something we can’t afford to go through over & over again. Sorry for being blunt.

  225. Hockey Socks says:

    Know what I love about this team and this season, though? For the first time in a while, I feel like we can still win without Markov. Sure the team is better with a healthy and mid-season form Markov, but I think the Habs are a winning club without him. He’s an important part of the team, but he’s no longer the engine.

  226. Bugs says:

    Woof! I say the same below but you boil it down better, Sockie.

    Question is: is this a good thing or not?

    Because there’s a HUGE decision looming…

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  227. andrewberkshire says:

    Anyone else notice that the team is 6 games over .500 already? Holy crap!

  228. careyprice says:

    I’m not sure I can agree with you here,

    When Markov was hit by Grabovski it was just him not bracing himself properly for the impact. I wouldn’t say his injuries have anything to do with his decision making process though. When he injured himself vs the Pens it was a clean hit but again it was a freak injury. As for last night, how can you blame Andrei’s decision making? He was going into the corner and Staal got his knee out on him. I think it is bad luck more than anything with Markov.

    http://www.CareyPrice31.net

  229. careyprice says:

    Amazing isn’t it? :) Their first test was this previous week vs Boston, Vancouver, and Carolina…And they passed with flying colours. It doesn’t get any easier though, Philadelphia is 4-1-2 away, Nashville and the Leafs are always tough competition as well.

    http://www.CareyPrice31.net

  230. habaddict_andy says:

    How about a short term at a discount to give him a chance to prove hes not made of glass.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  231. andrewberkshire says:

    If they somehow manage to go undefeated this week, I’ll be over the moon. Would absolutely love to throttle the Flyers.

  232. Danno says:

    We could find ourselves in sole possession of first place overall in the league if the Habs beat the Flyers on Tuesday (and if the Caps lose to the Sharks on Monday).

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  233. habs001 says:

    the problem with signing markov will be how many hits can his knee take before he gets injured again…this will hurt the pp again as spacek,gorges and hammer are just not consistent on the pp….we will only have pk to help the forwards on offense and goal production will go down…

  234. SmartDog says:

    The Flyers are the ultimate test.  To win they’ll need to beat them with speed and team play and either stand up to their toughness or make it work against them.  A trick they haven’t perfected in a couple of years of trying.  

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  235. Da Hema says:

    It takes two sides to negotiate. Markov and his agent will play a central role in whether he remains in Montreal. His injuries, no doubt, are bad for him from a contract perspective. Every time Markov goes down, others’ confidence in his ability to play consistently falls too. Habs’s management definitely has a challenge here, but perhaps, like Souray, letting Markov sign elsewhere before next regular season might be in everyone’s best interest. Ultimately, we need to know the nature of his current injury.

    ————————

    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  236. Da Hema says:

    I have been thinking about the All-Star omissions. Perhaps, given the last all-star debacle concerning Price, it is best he concentrate on his team rather than all-star accolades. I could care less about all-star crap–I want the Cup.

    ————————

    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  237. Nina76 says:

    Panic PANIC……………..We do not know what the outcome of the injury is yet & some on here are already have marky OFF for 3 MO> ???????? .Then we start talking about a trade……..WHAT!!!!!!!! Let’s just back off from the doom & gloomGO HABS GO!!!!!KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED FOF HIM

  238. habaddict_andy says:

    I’m sure getting a contract from some desperate teams would give him more. But if he wants to stay and I want him to, he can get a short term. I’d say 4 to 4.5 mil per year for 2 years sounds just about right to me.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  239. SmartDog says:

    I agree with you. 

    I’d rather have Price spend a couple of days with the family, or lassoing reindeer or whatever.

    But having Fleury in there is a COMPLETE joke.  The Pens won’t win another cup with that guy.  Hes’ the very definition of mediocre goaltending.  I was just comparing his stats to Price to show how ridiculous it is.  Price even has BETTER CAREER STATS.  Fleury… pffftt.  That’s all I need to know NOT to watch the AS game.

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  240. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …some of Our Fans talk like Andrei is ‘the past’ …like discarding a used Kleenex
    …We were beginning to see what extra-options Markov brought to an already solid Team on the power-play and depth of skill on Our D’s ability to clear the D-zone, and move the puck up-ice
    …with Markov AND Subban, We had something unique …without Markov, We have returned to the pack unless someone else in the organisation will compensate
    …Myself, watching Andrei go down was like being punched in the privates …and, watching Andrei on the way to the dressing-room, not looking at His team-mates on the bench, I sensed His despair, like a person seeing His career flash-away before His eyes …I truly hope all the instant ‘medical-specialists’ are off-base, and there is a certified-doctor whom will determine this as only a charley-horse or a bruise …for Our sake AND Andrei’s

  241. Nina76 says:

    I would love to beat the philly team but they will send out some GOONS to take down another one of our players but I hope we give them a good fight for the game. They say every team comes to play WELL when they play our habs ,sure they do because the teams know that …WE ARE THE BEST SO LOOK OUT!!!!!!!!!

  242. SmartDog says:

    Stupid Gauthier! 

    He shoulda packaged up Halak, Markov, and Gomez and traded them for Malkin, Richards, and Weber.  Man, we’d be in an AWESOME position!!!  Now we’re SSCCCCRRREEEEWWWWWEEEDDDD!!!!

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  243. HardHabits says:

    I totally respect your POV. Basically I am throwing this out there as a concern. I hope both you guys are right.

  244. twocents says:

    Ah come on, you were trying to organize a boycott of some sort the other day over the omission of Price and Pleks.

    Fact is, it is a joke, everything about it is a joke, so why should the selections reflect anything other?

  245. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Bugzy, …heard You were in a cat-fight …Did You save ‘the tapes’?

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  246. Mike D says:

    Pretty harsh treatment of a guy who’s been our best player for the better part of a decade. At only 31, he’s far from old, especially considering he’s a Dman and most Dmen are in their prime in their early 30’s.

    Why not wait and see how bad the injury is first before dismissing him….or making any decisions for that matter.

    - Honestly yours

  247. Da Hema says:

    That is a generous offer to someone who has played only 8 out of 23 (35%) playoff games in the last two years.

    ————————

    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  248. Curtis O Habs says:

    Is Bieksa still up for grabs?  Plays on both powerplay units and adds some sand paper.

  249. HardHabits says:

    This is all HP’s fault.

  250. gauver says:

    Love BC!  Lived in Abbotsford for 2 and a half years – great experience.

    I agree with you; Markhov was just getting back into the groove.  Is it just me, or do our Habs seem jinxed?  Maybe we used up two decades worth of luck winning all those overtime games in the 1993 playoffs.

  251. Da Hema says:

    It’s all Gainey’s fault! Fire Gainey!!!!!

    ————————

    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  252. Mike D says:

    That’s a nice thought and a warranted cautious approach, but there’s no way Markov would sign a short-term deal.  Regardless of his injuries as of late, there are more than a few teams (I think) that would be willing to offer him a 5-6 year deal for over 5mil/year. 

    If this latest injury isn’t serious and he gets back to form and stays healthy, I’d be willing to bet that some teams would offer 7mil/year for the guy.  Maybe not a lot of teams, but some would for sure.  He’s one of the best in the league at what he does, and at 31 he’s not old.

    - Honestly yours

  253. habaddict_andy says:

    Hopefully he comes back this year for the playoff.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  254. gauver says:

    I would prefer Bieksa to MAB.  Ultimately, though, I think that this is opportunity to see what our players in Hamilton can do.  This could be Weber’s chance to prove once and for all that he is NHL ready – or not.

  255. lenny says:

    love Markov, but that guy is as delicate as a little girl…let’s not forget how we did without him during the playoffs…time to move…

  256. Mike D says:

    I’m with you 100% my friend.

    - Honestly yours

  257. db says:

    If that’s your tattoo it’s inspiring… i was just thinking about getting inked with a fleur de lis and a maple leaf.

  258. habaddict_andy says:

    Are you saying Ragers are negotiating with him? Those bastereds. Markov better keep his mind clear and stay here to help us win the cup.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  259. ctony says:

    sadly, he is.  if we are without him for three months, we can’t really resign him after a series of serious injuries.  so that leaves PG with uncomfortable choices of trading him at the deadline, or hoping for a long playoff run with him and losing him as UFA in the off season.  As much as I hate to say it, we need to move him and get something rather than let him walk.

     

  260. Fred D says:

    I can imagine the comments if Gautier had traded Markov under any circumstances. In any case the sky is not falling in just yet.

  261. habaddict_andy says:

    Never minds, I over reacted.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  262. punkster says:

    Good call.

  263. Irishhabsfan says:

    All is not lost, I once stated that Price will be a great goalie…well.

    The team has played extremely well without Markov this season,they will suck it up,and continue untill his return.

    GO HABS!!!

  264. Fred D says:

    Make it three guys. I think the Montreal Canadiens will sign Markov next year and that he continues to be a part of our “plan”.

  265. Mike D says:

    So your preferred course of action is to make a rash decision and sell low? Yikes!

    It’s time to wait and time to think. Making any decision right now is the opposite of prudent.

    It’s amazing how people on here are willing to write Markov off and throw him under the bus.

    - Honestly yours

  266. SmartDog says:

    Wow. Did you really not know I was doing a troll imitation.

    :P 

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  267. Danno says:

    Using the power of faith, the newly-beatified Brother Andrei can perform a miracle to heal Markov’s knee.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  268. habs001 says:

    sat leafs at habs   sun argos at als

  269. SmartDog says:

    Markov is an awesome player and we all hope he is not badly injured.  If he IS out for a few months, I can only hope he’ll come back strong and add to a team that is looking pretty good. 

    My only concern would be if we didn’t sign him AND didn’t trade him.  PG needs to either gamble on this very loyal and effective Habs patriot, or do the best thing for the team if he CANNOT sign him, by making a trade to get value back.  If the loyalty runs mutually, he’ll be signed to a reasonable contract that takes into account his skill, his importance to the team, his loyalty to Montreal, and also his potential (it would seem) for injury. 

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  270. Fred D says:

    Maybe you were. Comments that fall off either side of the log don’t seem to be constructive. Just saying.

     

    BTW: Did you ever receive the photo of you on the platform in the press room at the Bell Center with the guide from last year’s Summit that I sent to you? I never heard.

     

    cheers

     

     

  271. NoTinFoilCups says:

    If he is out for 3 months is that considered an LTIR? If so, I think that results in some substantial cap relief.

  272. andrewberkshire says:

    It is in fact a tattoo of mine, just under 3 weeks old.

  273. SmartDog says:

    That was you?  Yeah I did receive it – thanks!   I should’ve said… not like me not to respond to a favor.

    MAYBE I was making fun of trolls?  How can we trade for Weber and Malkin and Richards?  That’s insane!  I might suggest a trade sure, but that’s pie-in-the-sky impossible….

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  274. Willy the bum says:

    Look on the bright side, Tomas Kaberle playing fared worse than Markov getting on the injury list. ;)

  275. aemarchand11 says:

    I keep seeing Bieksa being mentioned, is he on the market or something?? I dont know his contract, but he would be a nice addition, and would bring a physical presence to the blueline.

    Go Habs Go!
    2010-2011

  276. Fred D says:

    You are welcome.

     

    I stand corrected on your “pie in the sky” and will read your comments with a more understanding eye next time.

    It’s drinkee poo time here so I am off.

    Ciao

     

     

  277. Ayan_SB says:

    This team would be so screwed right now without PK.

  278. novahab says:

    I think he came back to soon or it was just another freak thing again. Markov is not soft he been a top D-man long before he first got cut. There is now doubt around the knee will it hold up and this is a big lost. The team powerplay was just starting to click and now thiis god I hate the Canes. Then again where is the news of three months coming from Montreal or Toronto. Wait a minute there is no news that comes from Montreal or any other part of this country it’s all controled out of Toronto.

  279. Bill J says:

    Only reason his name is mentioned is cuz ekl**d posted a rumor about him & the Habs a while back.

    In other words, Bieksa is not coming to MTL.

  280. Harani says:

    Eklund still mentions Bieksa and now Robyn Reghr (Cap hit: 4.02) in Habs rumors, he even calls the Calgary deal 95% done according to a source. So, safe bet is that it will never happen but still, pass or fail?

    And people who are just throwing out MAB, get your heads checked! 

    “It must be love!”

  281. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    The Atlanta – Caps game has no defense….7 goals scored by both teams in 23 minutes..

  282. SmartDog says:

    I can be ridiculous, but not optimistically ridiculous!

    Enjoy the festivities!  I’ve had Christmas music on all night.  The kids like it… at least that’s my story.

     

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  283. christophor says:

    Check NHL.com’s saves of the year thus far.

    3 of the 8 belong to Price.

  284. adam76 says:

    No pressure, Picard!  Welcome to Montreal – full time.

  285. adam76 says:

    He is almost 32 years old  one stat you can never “spin” is age.

  286. notbigbird says:

    I don’t agree about cutting him loose, but I don’t tink a long term deal looks like a go right now. OTOH, maybe he’ll suit up for the next game and score a hat trick.

  287. LA Loyalist says:

    Exactly. WITH Markov we would have had a much better chance again Philly.

  288. LA Loyalist says:

    I can see you’ve done well in the stock market.

  289. LA Loyalist says:

    Phlyers will be a severe test, espesh sans Markov. Biggest game of the year, so far, psychologically I think.

     

     

    “Our best wishes for Markov”

  290. LA Loyalist says:

    He was badly injured on our behalf. How can you possibly hold that against him? There is no questioning his skill and work ethic. Medical is another issue but for the moment there are no FACTS, only wild speculation and panic — utterly typical here on HIO.

  291. sh00n says:

    If we’re making a trade with Calgary, I’m not just thinking Regehr. I’m going all out and trying to bring back Iginla with him.

    Sutter’s a moron anyways. Send them Gomez and Pacioretty; he’ll probably say yes. :)

  292. jimmy shaker says:

    If your actually entertaining anything that eklund says than you are the one that needs there head shaken.

    MAB is the simple, easy, cheap fix the habs need, by the end of the week he’ll be in the lineup again, stamp it!

    Shaker

  293. Da Hema says:

    Markov’s impending UFA status means much of the discussion here would emerge irrespective of whether he was injured. I don’t think anyone, other than you, is getting hysterical over this issue.

    ————————

    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  294. Bill J says:

    Lazy much ?

    Sheesh

    Here

    But it was 1 & in the saves of the week … so not entirely factual to begin with.

    Price no longer has a Glove side issue.

  295. sh00n says:

    :D

    Had some free time between perspective homework to get work done on Photoshop. :P

  296. matraque says:

    You are obviously not informed about MAB.

    He has not been cleared by doctors yet…  He should be ready around Nov 25th.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  297. jimmy shaker says:

    HE was supposed to be ready just after Markov came back, but I guess he’s a little bit further behind than what I heard a couple months ago.  Oh well, still close enough anyway to put the pen to paper and get him locked up.  My translator button for some reason won’t translate so I couldn’t fully grasp the MAB article as well.

    SHaker

  298. punkster says:

    Jeez man, they can’t all be gems. I think JB is finding his legs so turning in a few stinkers has to be expected.

     

    That said…keep at it JB.

  299. JohnBellyful says:

    Thanks, Dave. What can I say? The seltzer I used was flat? Oh well, I got a chuckle writing it.

     “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.”

  300. Keith says:

    Well, I sure hope they are wrong about the 3 month. And on the bright side…all bad things (and good things) happen in three’s so hopefully this will be his last injury for a long, LONG time.

  301. Bugs says:

    Not if he’s out with injury the next two years.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  302. Bugs says:

    ?

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  303. Say Ash says:

    10 mil over 2 years in reasonable.

  304. punkster says:

    I’m curious as to why so many here think we must trade to get a replacement for Markov right away. Maybe it’s the video game, click a button for the solution, instant gratification syndrome.

    We already have an available list of Ds, bought and paid for, only a phone call away. My list includes Picard, Weber, Henry, Nash, Carle and a couple of others whose names escape me. The Bulldogs exist to feed our requirements in situations like this.

    Don’t get me wrong, none of these guys is a Markov and therein lies the problem for many fans. Face it folks, we are not getting a direct replacement for Markov any time soon. What we do get to see unfold is a tremendous opportunity for one of our existing D to emerge as a leader and for one or more of our young farm hands to prove their worth. This should be fun!

  305. nick says:

    Whats with all this crazy talk of bringing MAB back… Seriously?

    Why so JM can play him for 20 minutes a night while we all cringe everytime he touches the puck? Please…

    MTL should focus on developping their youth if Markov goes down for a long period of time rather than attempt to patch things up with a liability like MAB. That is unless you wanna see Price start glaring at his defenders again…

  306. Mattyleg says:

    Even MAB’s agent was saying that the Habs will go through a few callups before they get on the horn to his client.

    I wanna see youngsters! Then again, young defensemen are much less fun to watch than young forwards, but, y’know…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  307. Habfan29 says:

    Forget MAB, they should bring up Brendan Nash, he is going to be a good one for us. Big strong and not afraid to mix it up and plays both ways very well….

  308. DearyLeary says:

    Nash still needs some seasoning.  Raw talent is there, but needs to work on his decision making.  My primary concern is that he holds on to the puck a little too long at the AHL level, when faced with the pace of the NHL that could be disastrous.

    On the brighter side of things, I have found the Carey Price Giggle .gif.

     http://i.imgur.com/eKdpX.gif

  309. Danno says:

    RDS, like many media
    outlets are basing their assessment on pure speculation. They just want
    to scoop a story that isn’t confirmed yet.

    The clip I posted on Dennis Kane’s Excellent Montreal Canadiens Blog
    is far more revealing and shows that Markov may not be a badly injured
    as some are fearing. Take a look near the end and you will see what I
    mean.

    At
    the one minute mark of the clip Markov stumbles getting off the ice,
    but watch further on — he does put weight on his right leg walking down
    the hall towards the dressing room.

    I think they could be wrong about this. At least I hope so.

    In the meantime, let’s let the doctors do the diagnosis instead of getting all excited, hopefully for nothing.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  310. J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

    Must admit, I felt very uncomfortable about his return last month. It seemed a might hasty, just like the previous time. Reconstructive surgery on a knee takes a mighty long time to heal to the point where they tendons can take any added strain. He should, at the very least, been wearing one of those light-weight supportive braces.

    I hope this time they are extra cautious about his return. If they have to wait until the All-star break, fine.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  311. andrewberkshire says:

    He was wearing a brace, as Stubbs pointed out. And anyone who every gets surgery on a tendon needs to wear a brace during physical activity, a lot of the time for the rest of their life.

  312. geo_habsgo says:

    I am from the camp that doesn’t think it looked that bad last night but you never really know with these things. I am not so much worried for the depth of this defence core we can more than handle the other teams. What I am worried about is that P.K is going to have to start playing big minutes again when he just started to look comfy playing a bit less. However, he can handle the larger workload of need be the real problem is that Hammer and Spacek cannot. If they have to start going back to 20+ minutes per game we will start to have problems. Spacek has been great the last couple of games and that is cause he is playing some respectable minutes. I don’t know I guess its not so much the loss of offence as a result of Markov missing time but more of the smaller intangible stuff that his absence will affect.

     

    Thoughts? 

  313. kirkiswork says:

    Just don’t bring back MAB, the Habs will be OK, they have already proven that they can win without Marky.

  314. longtimehabsfan says:

    Tony Marinaro just stated that OB played 25 mins Friday night.  How in hell does this happen?

  315. Mattyleg says:

    4 hits 2 blocked shots, -1.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  316. longtimehabsfan says:

    According to the Avs site he had 23 shifts for 15:58 TOI

  317. gumper says:

    Not sure what I would call that leg tackle Staal laid on Markov, but if he had used his right hand with the same sort of tugging motion on the upper body it would definitely have been a penalty. Has a holding penalty ever been called where someone is being held with the leg? Man these Canes have a way of causing serious damage with impunity. Anyway, There’s nought to be done about it now, and here we go for a third straight year missing Markov for a big chunk of games. No one more frustrated than Andrei, as you could clearly see from the fist slamming into the end boards. 

  318. Kooch7800 says:

    I hope Markov is ok. He is great when he is healthy but has been having a rough go with his knees.  He can’t seem to catch a break these last few seasons.

     

  319. notbigbird says:

    I’m not sure how many people would be good at their jobs if they were forced to spend most of the time eating peanuts in the parking lot.

  320. PrimeTime says:

    “…unconfirmed reports…” is the key phrase here.

    In other words…(Headline) “MARKOV TO HAVE MRI” …..(story) Nobody knows anything yet but an MRI will be done today and Habs will send a press release tomorrow when they have a definitive answer”….then the rest of the article as written.

    I guess I wouldn’t make a good journalist…..too close to the truth.

  321. geo_habsgo says:

    Well it isn’t as if RDS is claiming it to be true either though. They are making a speculation based on the thoughts of their medical staff. They are basically reporting on speculation about what could be the worst case scenario. Is it meant to garner a reaction and get hits to their site? Yes. Is it poor journalism? Not so much. Journalists don’t mask the truth they sensationalize it.

  322. Mattyleg says:

    Woah, no Monday morning articles? Very strange…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  323. longtimehabsfan says:

    Looks like even the beat writers are holding their breath on Markov.

  324. coachdoug says:

    Interesting article on PD about Colin Campbell…some pretty damning e-mails released Sunday…makes you wonder about the wheel of NHL justice…

    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Have-Savard-emails-exposed-NHL-s-Colin-Campbell-?urn=nhl-285531

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  325. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t wonder if Campbell is a hack anymore, I’m pretty sure that’s what he is.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  326. Mattyleg says:

    SO… I went on to the Habs website to try to buy tickets for December.

    I got in right away to the waiting room, then in about 6 minutes, I was into the buying part. I could not buy 2 tickets to ANY of the 5 games. In the Molson Ex Zone, the Blues, the Greys or the Whites.

    Are there actually tickets on sale?? I was even clicking ‘I would accept split seats’ (which I wouldn’t, but was worth a try…) and there was nothing.

    Anyone ever manage to get tickets on the 15th?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  327. longtimehabsfan says:

    Not good.  Inherent conflict of interest.

  328. SeriousFan09 says:

    NYI are sacking their head coach. I mean sure the team is struggling against injury, lacks a serious amount of depth and their highest-salaried players are Yashin (who’s getting his buyout money in the KHL) and glass-legs Dpietro who’s keeping the bench warm. But go ahead and sack the coach for handing him a bucket of **** and saying bake me a cake.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  329. Hobie Hansen says:

    Well I hate to say I told you so, especially when it comes to an awesome player we all love. However, a couple days prior to the return of Andrei Markov I stated that a few people covering the team, including Pierre Maguire, said that Markov, while wearing a massive knee brace, seemed to be walking around awfully gingerly on his surgically repaired knee. Many people, including myself, questioned why he was returning so quickly?

     

    I posted on here that I thought it was a bad idea and wondered why they didn’t give it a bit more time. I was attacked by the majority of people saying that Maguire is an idiot and another person told me I’m an idiot because everyone wears a knee brace after being injured, and so on and so on…

     

    Strange and unlucky things always seem to happen when you rush back from injury and you’re not 100% confident in yourself. Not sure who made the push to get him back in the lineup so quickly but what a dumb mistake, should have waited until December 1st.

     

    Now we have no choice but to call in MAB. He better not see one second of even strength time on defense!!!

     

  330. SLONCOLD says:

    if the reports are accurate that markov is out for 3 months, it indicates mcl or meniscus ( maybe lcl but unlikely he tore that one)

    i just hope his acl is alright otherwise he’s gonezo for another 6 months….

     

  331. SLONCOLD says:

    i said a while ago that knee braces DO NOT protect against knee injuries…. if he was rushed it was a huge mistake but after seeing the collision, i think just about any knee would have been damaged.

  332. HabFanSince72 says:

    In fairness, Pierre McGuire really is an idiot.

     

  333. rocketsglare says:

    Why would this team want to sign a former D-man who was a defensive liability and turn over machine?

    With the PP beginning to produce and Picard a ready stand in, there is no reason to consider signing MAB.

    The team is playing sound D and to bring MAB in would create more problems than solve. So, please no

    more talk of signing this guy.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

  334. SLONCOLD says:

    i’m not a fan on how he talk sabout players famalies and their years in peewee hockey but the man knows his hockey; ya gotta give him that.

  335. christophor says:

    Look on the bright side. Like Boston, Habs’ve got Philly on the second half of a back-to-back.

  336. Mattyleg says:

    I second that. A complete idiot.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  337. SeriousFan09 says:

    When he isn’t comparing the Loafs D to the Big Three that is.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  338. HabFanSince72 says:

    You want a league run on fair play, you don’t hand it over to lawyers.

     

  339. Hobie Hansen says:

    Oh well, I’ve never seen an idiot be right so many times, weird.

  340. HabFanSince72 says:

    You want a league run on fair play, you don’t hand it over to lawyers.

     

  341. habaddict_andy says:

    No offense to Jimmy Shaker, BUT Richard Labbe clearly has no understanding of the hockey and his article just makes people realize how his reputation for his objectiveness as a journalist may be at risk.  This guy does not know what he is talking about.

     

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  342. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    We need a team pyscho, a real nut case. If we had a “Chris Nilan” on this team Eric Stall would have  (and should have) left the game in MORE pain than Markov. The replays sure make it look like Stall’s intent was to hurt Markov and that kind of tom foolery should be met with Devine Retribution. Forget F’ing MAB…WHEN is Danny Carcillo UFA?

     

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  343. joeybarrie says:

    First we have to asses how long Markov could be out. If it is indeed 3 months, I see no other option than to go out a find a replacement. Obviously not an easy task. MAB did a damn good job of replacing Marky last season. However he is a defensive liability. He helped our PP, but a -12 in the playoffs alone is not worth the 2 PP goals he had. Once teams realized our PP trick, we were done.

    3 months os a MASSIVE amount of time in the NHL, and we are right smack in the middle of it. This means Marky could only come back with 20 or so games left in the season.

    If it isn’t a 3 month lay off, then I think we should be ok. We have 6 solid defencemen and both Spacek and Hamrlik are veteran pros who know they have to now pick it up. They did so last season, so there is no reason they cannot this season.

    Kim Johnsson is still an UFA, and there are some teams who need to shed some cap space. BOSTON, NJD, Vancouver all have LTIR’s coming back and we might have to make a move.

    I think we are simply missing 2 keys to a GREAT team and a another possible great run in the playoffs. MARKOV #1 and a second line player. If we complete the second line we will have 3 scoring lines.

    I am so depressed by Markov, I need to know the extent of it NOW…….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  344. habaddict_andy says:

    I agree with you.  I was hoping Moen would be pissed and go after anybody especially Stall.  But nope.  The only frustration I saw in a player was Gomez when he was pushing Carolina player’s face to the ice.  Gomez seems to be the only one who cares about Markov.

     

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  345. habaddict_andy says:

    Joey, good job replacing Markov is stretching it by a mile.  He did score goals.  But that’s just about it.  We struggled during the season and MAB was collecting negative numbers in +/- department.  I’d rather we get a stay at home defensemen who will prevent goals.

     

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  346. KenD29 says:

    Could not agree with you more on the MAB/Markov comparison.  No comparison.

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  347. KenD29 says:

    Been years the Habs have had this kind of player….

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  348. AH says:

    Just read the Puck Daddy article on Colin Campbell posted below by “Coachdoug”…..I remember a while ago I posted how much of a joke this guy was after he let Ovie off with another slap on the wrist for a dirty hit as a repeat offender. A certain poster on here (who shall remain nameless and whom a lot of posters “like his stuff”??) went apesh$t on me and another poster for knocking Campbell and asked me if I could do a better job? Considering the content of that article I’d say I could do a way better job than that ex- journeyman, hack player Campbell, who’s finally being exposed for the unqualified bozo that he is! 

  349. idle says:

    There is a lot of talk about Markov being injury prone.  I think it’s more of a run of bad luck.  The first long term injury was being cut by Prices skate, which has nothing to do with someones durability.  The second one is tough to tell as it did not look like a serious hit but may have just caught him the wrong way.  Now if it’s the same knee after a knee on knee collision then it’s acceptable (really disappointing) that he may re injure an already damaged knee.

    The real concern is if the knee will now always be more susceptible to injury or was it just bad luck to go knee on knee when he was in an awkward posistion.

  350. geo_habsgo says:

    If I read correctly, it was not the same knee that he hurt last season so I don’t think it is a matter of his knee being more susceptible to injury. However, the fact that he may have suffered serious injuries in both his knees in under a year may have opened an entirely different can of worms.

  351. Mr. Biter says:

    I’m not so sure. GM’s remember these things and injury prone d-men (ie. Souray who got big bucks and has barley played since signing his contract and is now in the AHL) in fact any injury prone players regardless of their skills have a hard time signing for big bucks in these Cap $$$ times. If AM returns in 3 months (worst senario) and prehaps it is only a minor injury (see my above post) and plays well the $18 Million will be on the table. However if he dose not return or when he returns and plays badly or in his case not at his usual level he will not get the$18 million. 6 million a season is a lot to pay for 40-50 games.

  352. NightRyder says:

    If he hits the market as an UFA, he’ll get term from somebody, guaranteed.

     

  353. habitual says:

    I love Marky but I now have to question his durability and whether he can recover to play at anywhere near the level he has played at.  Multiple knee injuries are a huge thing thing to get over.

     

    I very much hope the report are wrong.  Because if not, it means that the Habs have, effectively, 4 aging defensemen in their top 6.

    And I do not share Gautier’s assessment of the talent on the Bulldogs.  Remember that we had 8 D here before O’Byrne was traded, meaning the next D on the depth chart would be # 9 …

  354. gumper says:

    Weber and Carle would be next to call on. If we end up going that deep, we may have to spend the cap room saved by trading OB on an available, experienced defenceman. Life is full of irony.

  355. idle says:

    I thought it sounded strange when they said he was not putting any weight on his left leg because I believed it was his right knee he hurt before…

  356. gumper says:

    “He appeared to injure his right knee — the same knee that needed surgery this summer after he hurt it during the playoffs.”

    From the CP story, for whatever its worth.

  357. Danno says:

    I’d gladly accept a tweak and sit him down for the next few games to keep him away from some of the teams that play dirty that are coming up. If that’s all it is it could be a blessing in disguise. I sure hope so.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  358. Born in a Bad Year says:

    Averaging 20 min a game so far, led the team in hits and blocked shots both games.

  359. LA Loyalist says:

    Is Schneider a short term/interim option? He’s smart on the ice though certainly not what he was and he’s always played well for us.

  360. habitual says:

    I haven’t followed Carle’s progress.  Webber doesn’t seem strong enough for the NHL …

  361. gumper says:

    I suppose, but we can’t keep passing over our prospects for guys who are past their best before date. Carle in particular is either the next guy, or the next bust.

  362. habaddict_andy says:

    I’m one of those who likes Schneider. He’s smart with the puck. He has an awesome shot. The only thing is he could not possibly eat up minutes which the vets will need help in.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  363. habstrinifan says:

    American Pickers head West!

    Dont know if any of you seen the show American Picker where these two guys comb the US countrysides looking for ‘one man’s junk is another man’s treasure’ items.

    Maybe Gauthier should be honing his American pickers skill and look towards the West. The Western teams are putting up some sad sad numbers… Edm being hammered by NYR is latest. Maybe PG can grab something from Western team for one of our ‘bubble’ prospects. Maybe someone has eye on Webber or Pacs and is willing to give up on a tough good D-MAN who aint performing to par with them.

  364. ThirtyThree says:

    So sad to see Markov go down. Hope the speculations are way off. Whatever the case he`s a tough SOB and will be back strong. 

  365. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    Markov is our ATOI leader, a top five NHL PP set-up man, and top pair D man on most NHL teams. If Markov is out for 3 months or longer, Hab hopes may shift from division title to playoff bubble team.

    Disagree with anyone suggesting Markov is “soft” (unlucky to be sure).  Agree this setback will likely impact negotiations and term potential on Markov retention.

    Yes, the Habs saw early season success awaiting AM’s return, and over the last several days the D pairings really started to gel. Markov’s return meant that Spacek / Hamrlik / PK / Gill would not be required to play top pair minutes on a consistent basis, and saw Picard sitting as 7th D – a recipe for continued success.

    Where to look for support if AM is out for 3 months?

    Although PK already displays top pair D confidence, it would be best for his growth and Habs immediate success to see him continue as 2nd / 3rd pairing with bonus PP time. That leaves Hammer / Spacek / Gill / Gorges to carry the load which is workable short term, but for how long?

    Picard is best suited as 6th or 7th D, (despite good fortune with +/- early in the year) and has not shown top 4 potential.

    Call up Weber (hot) or Carle from the Dogs? Weber can assist on the power play but has not yet shown NHL D level skills. Carle is running out of time (injuries / trade demands) and is a waiver risk.

    UFA signing (MAB)? How many of us were holding a collective breath with MAB in the D zone last year or how about the PP where a relatively simple pass would inexplicably hop over his stick while manning the RD point, creating a SHG rush by the opposing team? Yes, there were PP goals and a booming shot, but I would ask you if there has been a less reliable D in a Habs uni over the last several years?

    Habs Org depth is starting to rally over last two years, does PG trade valuable assets for a short term solution? Keep in mind there are only a handful of D with Markov skill in the NHL, and PG would not be dealing from a position of strength.

    No easy answers for PG & JM if Habs are w/out Markov for a significant amount of time.

    Things to be thankful for:

    *Habs have an outstanding record over 17 games and could get by on .500 hockey until early New Year.

    *Team D is the story this season.

    *CP is tending like a top 5 pick.

    *The future (Eller, LeBlanc, kristo, Tinordi).

    *Your not a leafs fan.

     

  366. JohnBellyful says:

    Habs play the Leafs Saturday. Here’s a ‘scouting report’, courtesy of Heuters, the news agency that keeps readers abreast of world affairs:

    TORONTO – The Toronto Maple Leafs have dipped into their past in hopes of putting an end to their losing skid.
    The team announced Monday that it had signed short-term contracts with Red Kelly, Rick Vaive, and Lanny McDonald.
    “Kelly’s versatility gives us many options and Vaive, who scored more than 50 goals three times, knows how to put the puck in the net,” said Leaf GM Brian Burke. “McDonald’s also a scorer and, just as importantly, he will serve as an inspiration for all our players involved in the Movember charity fundraiser.”
    Burke said the surprise move was an attempt to strike a balance between the team’s youth movement, which has yet to pay dividends, and experience. He denied suggestions the signings were driven by panic.
    “Bringing back Eddie Shack, now that would have been panic,” Burke said.
    Should the three players pass their medicals, they are expected to be uniform when the Leafs play the Canadiens this Saturday in Montreal. The trio will spend the next few days familiarizing themselves with rule changes since they last played in the NHL.
    Kelly said he was looking forward to playing in the Forum again.
    “I have a lot of fond memories of those days, which is nice, because a lot of days I don’t have any.”
    Coach Ron Wilson said he might experiment partnering Mike Komarisek with Kelly, who won the Norris Trophy the first time it was presented, in 1954.
    “As long as Mikey can keep up, I think he will benefit from playing alongside a veteran,” Wilson said.
    Reaction to the signings was mixed among current Leaf players. Most praised the move but a few expressed skepticism.
    “These guys are ancient,” scoffed one Leaf who wished to remain anonymous. “And one of them is delusional. He said the Leafs HAVE won the Cup – and he was on the team! Yeah, right.”
    Burke admitted he had been interested in resurrecting the careers of three other prominent ex-Leafs – Charlie Conacher, Harvey “Busher” Jackson and Joe Primeau – but was forced to abandon the idea when a team official informed him all three members of the Kid Line were deceased.
    “Too bad,” remarked one wag at the press conference. “The Dead Line would have fit right in with the other zombies on the team.”

    “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.”

  367. sholi2000.com says:

    Nice work there.  Bored are We?  :)

    My turn.

    They Call Me Shane

  368. jrshabs1 says:

     That was awesome!!

     

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  369. punkster says:

    Thing is I can’t understand why Burkie hasn’t approached my childhood hero and the idol of many a pond hockey kid in my old neighbourhood, Dave Keon. Now this guy has longevity; a born leader, speedy, awesome around the net, Lady Byng and Conn Smyth, 4 time Cup winner, played professionally til he was 42 and continues to revile the Leaf ownership at any opportunity. So he’s 70 now. So what. The guy has more truculence, without the PIMs, than any player on that team today. Berkie blew it again.

     

    (PS…good one JB :)

  370. sholi2000.com says:

    CBC Hockey Night In Canada Transcript

    13/11/10

    Carolina Hurricanes @ Montreal Canadiens

    Bob Cole-  Canadiens move the puck down the left side, dump the puck in and now scrambling to make a change.

    Gary Galley-  I love eggs Bob

    Cole- I knew you would Gary

    Galley-  You know who has nice eggs

    Cole-  That Tina Turner has some nice Legs

    Galley- I said Eggs Bob, EGGS

    To Be Continued

    They Call Me Shane

  371. mchab33 says:

    The most accurate post in three months.  Keep up the great work.

  372. JohnBellyful says:

    That’s not fair. It’s easy to mock HNIC when Cole calls the game and Galley is his sidekick. Whereas with the Leafs it’s … yeah, okay.

    My compliments to you.

     

    “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.”

  373. Jbird says:

    And Tampa lost.  Almost impossible I was told by so many.  3 in a row now. . . .

    Barely above a .500?  They have allowed 5 more goals then they have scored??? With the greatest coach in history, the best goalie available,  Dominic Moore, and Stevie Y?   Very believable!  

  374. SeriousFan09 says:

    League’s going to wipe the Ls off their record, Guy Boucher will be invoking the “I was hired by Steve Yzerman” Clause.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  375. howtathor says:

    They’ve also lost Vincent Lecavalier and Simon Gagne. Imagine losing Gomez and Gionta for an extended period. Their PP has lost 2 key elements. Yeah, I’m a Boucher supporter but look how injuries undid Guy Carbonneau 2 years ago.

  376. Hagar says:

    I dunno why but I enjoy watching TB lose. My second biggest disappointment by far this season is that we lost to them. The only good part of watching Stamkos tear it up for them is knowing he’s gonna put them in the financial hurt locker once the season’s over.

  377. jrshabs1 says:

     The whole Markov injury situation is my fault…sorry. I was having a casual hockey conversation on Friday with a leaf loving friend and I had mentioned how lucky the Habs were so far with injuries. Bam!! But, you just had to figure it would be Markov one of the last holdovers from the Koivu era. ’95-2008 just wasn’t a good time to be a Hab fan or player since it seemed that someone was injured all the time. Hopefully Markov can come back and be productive and stay healthy.

     

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  378. HabFab says:

    SF, what’s up with Kristo? A little underage drinking does equate his season so far.

  379. SeriousFan09 says:

    From what I’m reading at HF Boards from people watching his games, he’s doing everything but hitting the net, goalposts and such, has all the right moves and is basically the fastest skater on the ice every time he’s playing. Some people figure he’s a game or two away from just exploding into a scoring streak.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  380. habsgod says:

    WHAT A FOOTBALL GAME! riders win 41-38 in ot are 1 win away from getting revenge on the alouettes from last year!

  381. saskhabfan says:

    Not meaning to call you out or be an a$$. But if your saying injuries are hurting boucher as they did carbonneau. Are you not saying that boucher isn’t any more qualified then carbo is? Since neither can win games with team injuries. I’ve also noticed boucher’s team is filled with minus players and has pretty much rode the tails of stamkos and to a lesser extent st.louis.

     

     

     

    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  382. SmartDog says:

    Hmmm…. imagine losing Gomez and Gionta…. so Halpern is our #2 center…. Pouliot and Darch with him.  So we need a #3 center.  Eller is coming along and could probably do it, or Laps… or….. call up White or Desharnais….  yeah, you’re right.  NO IDEA what we would do without Gomez and Gionta.  No idea.

  383. VancouverHab says:

    If Jeff Halpern is our #2 centre we are the laughing stock of the league.

  384. light_n_tasty says:

    Right now, Jeff Halpern is our #2 centre.  And we are first in our division.

  385. VancouverHab says:

    Outside of your solipsistic universe, no way in Hell. If he were we would not be first in our division, and Pleks would be worn down to the nub from the other team being able to key double on him each and ever shift.

    Do you seriously think that opposition coach’s would be doing Hab-game prep by thinking of ways to neutralise … Jeff Halpern on the 2nd line???? They’d be laughing over our weak-sister-ness. We are in first place precisely because, in part, opposition coachs have to worry themselves about containing Pleks & Gomez (and of course that includes pressure from the strength of our third line.)

    I think Halpern is great–a wonderful 3rd or 4th line player– don’t get me wrong. But he is no 2nd line centre — and fans who elevate their beloved someone beyond his natural station with misguided praise paradoxically harm their beloved, by making him look inadequate above his station.

    Look, I really like Moen –he’s my kind of player–but no way on the strength of good role performances am I going to think that he can take Gomez’s spot (mutatis mutandis.)

  386. andrewberkshire says:

    “and fans who elevate their beloved someone beyond his natural station
    with misguided praise paradoxically harm their beloved, by making him
    look inadequate above his station.”

    This is you with Gomez, in a nutshell.

  387. Ian Cobb says:

    nonsense!!

  388. alfieturcotte says:

    So PG, how bad does that trade for O’B look now?  As I stated last week – it was a horrible trade a few days, looks even worse now…..

  389. NightRyder says:

    I like O’Byrne but we lost Markov, not Alex Picard.

    We deal a No. 5-7 d-man and it’s suddenly a bad deal because our No. 1 goes down?

  390. Bill J says:

    Uhm O’B wasn’t playing prior to Markov’s return either…

    Picard was, and now will be again…

    Getting a 18 year old hard working forward prospect for O’B – was a very good trade, I disagree despite the Markov injury.

  391. Bugs says:

    Why? What happened? (sorry for missin it)

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  392. spos080808 says:

    Um, you do realize that Picard passed OB on the depth chart right. So even if Markov is out for a substantial amount of time, OB would have been the 7th Dman and just sit in the press box UNLESS Picard crapped the bed or another injury occured.

    The trade was actually a very smart one no matter if Markov is hurt or not.

    Nice attempt at trolling your own fav. team though by avoiding the facts.

  393. alfieturcotte says:

    Do the math Einstein — whether Picard is 7 or 8, you still are down one defenseman and all we have to show for it is a third string prospect that plays in the Q.  Perhaps PG should sign MAB again or better yet Brisebois.  Either way, O’B and his rather limited salary will be plying his trade elsewhere. 

  394. jrshabs1 says:

     Sorry Brother, injury has been removed from my vocabulary.

     

     

     

    Go Habs Go!!

  395. NightRyder says:

    Bad knees or not, it will take at least three years and $18M to resign Markov.

    His agent isn’t going to agree to anything less than a three-year deal, Markov’s not taking a pay cut and someone out there will give him the money.

    Lots of time to figure this situation out.

  396. Mr. Biter says:

    Due to his “injury problems” no $18 million for 3 years for AM next year. Best prehaps a $5Million for 1 year to show his durability then the $18 million may be around the corner.

  397. Chris79 says:

    I was really happy when Markov came back…

    I made a little Youtube clip i was so excited he was coming back..!!

    and….now…this…?

    SAd dAy..

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70FOgONHows

  398. Bugs says:

    Query: let us say that despite all the uncertainty surrounding the best player on the team at the moment, he were to nonetheless be re-signed for another 6 years at a 5-5.5mil cap hit per year and that he were to COMPLETELY MISS 2-2.5 years of that contract due to injury. Miss ENTIRELY. But for the rest, right as rain.

    Good deal, yes or no?

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  399. NightRyder says:

    We’ve got Gomez for $7.5M and he misses half the games, so why not?

     

  400. Mr. Biter says:

    Had to watch the game on the Cane’s replay (computer was down at home) at 11:00P.M.-1:00A.M. so did not see the AM  injury till late. Read some comments about big suspensions and deliberate intent to injure from last night but I did watch the replay over & over and in my humble view was it not a deliberate attempt to injure. It did not look like the usual “knee on knee” hit as they were both going for the puck & Stahl seemed to grab him by the shoulder to get by AM and their knees(legs?) collided right in front of the Ref. Also on usual “knee on knee” hits there is the usual going after the offender and there was none from the Habs. I don’t know about Stahl’s penalty history (if anyone can enlightment me if he has any previous history of hits like this please let me know) but it looked accidental to me. Hopefully a “Charlie Horse” is all it is and that will end all the speculation.

    Unfortunatly if it is bad for AM it will hurt us this year as well make PG’s job harder if to sign AM when or if he becomes a free agent and at what price or to trade him for prospects (probably all he could get due to the worries of AM’s duribality) after the season ends.

    BTW how has OB played for the Av’s since his trade?

  401. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Wonder what it would take to get Ian White from Calgary? Especially as he’s a UFA at season’s end and Calgary cannot sign him.

    Defensive prospect (Carle?) and a 2nd or 3rd rd pick?

    If so, I’d do that in a heartbeat. I’d far rather White than Reghr – who is at the end of his career.

  402. Bugs says:

    Are we officially pulling the plug on Webber all of a sudden?

    I think we should see that kid again first afore lookin elsewhere and havin another Mara on our hands, no?

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  403. JIMVINNY says:

    White is the worst defenceman on a bad team.  He’s terrible. 

  404. Say Ash says:

    I could have sworn I saw Hal Gill singing along to the french part of Oh, Canada. Anybody else see that?

  405. SmartDog says:

    No he was singing the English.  He was just behind because it takes awhile for the sound to get up there.

     

    ———
    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  406. Danno says:

    Good one!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  407. LA Loyalist says:

    He was moving his lips like Nick Nolte in North Dallas 40. :)

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  408. ColRouléBleu says:

    There are so many young talented puck moving defensemen out there, the League is flooded with them, all teams have to do is reach one and pick one.


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