Markov not on the radar

Markov

The NHL web site has a feature on star players, in addition to Sidney Crosby, attempting to come back from major injuries.
Geno Malkin is on the list. So are Chris Pronger and Zach Parise.
Mark Streit is listed.
But Andrei Markov is not.
Odd.

Is Andreas Engqvist this season’s Jeff Halpern?

Red Fisher on Toe Blake

• Canadiens web site has a cool Mathieu Darche video

Gui gets in shape

Holmgren in a bike accident

Stu Hackel on the future of fighting

• TSN looks at the improved Sabres

• Mike Brophy on Canadian Cup chasers

Flames GM disses Oilers

You’ll love this … NOT!

The Andrew Ference Stanley Cup Flash Mob:

228 Comments

  1. HabinBurlington says:

    The latest from Down Goes Brown. Couple good zingers at the Shanahan/Bettman relationship.

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2011/09/06/dgb-barbecuing-with-bettman/

  2. HabinBurlington says:

    So if indeed Montreal is still in need of another centreman, does Kyle Turris interest anyone? 2007 3rd pick overall, has yet to do alot in Phoenix and they are apparantly not getting anywhere with contract negotiations. Is he another Pouliot or does he just need to play for a real hockey team.

    In light of little hockey news throwing it out there.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/10935/will-kyle-turris-get-his-chance-in-phoenix

  3. Ian Cobb says:

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  4. HabinBurlington says:

    GM of the Wpg Jets was on T.O. Sports show this pm, says 246lb is weight listing from many years ago. Apparantly he came to camp last year 268, also was in low 270’s when Blackhawks won cup. Currently he tells GM he is 275.

    As long as he doesn’t find my moms address and start eating all her traditional baked goods he should be okay, otherwise he ends up looking like me.
    Edit: discussing Dustin Byfuglien

  5. mfDx says:

    Ten list

    Reasons the Cfl should shift their schedule back 3 months, starting April 1st and ending with the “Labour Day Grey Cup Extravaganza”(tm)

    – easier for families to travel to Grey Cup games during labour day weekend vs mid November

    – NFL season starts after labour day, CFL loses a huge chunk of audience

    – NHL training starts mid sept. CFL loses huge chunk of audience.

    – MLB playoffs start in october. CFL has added competition for its audience.

    – big football void to be filled between Superbowl and Grey Cup season ( notable failures include usfl, xfl, nfl europe)

    – NFL rookies or rehab players can join CFL rosters for the full season.

    – Grey Cup game played in better weather than Edmonton in late november

    – the crazy few ‘football in the snow’ enthusiasts can get their fix with preseason games in march.

    – no live NFL competition means that some U.S. Sports networks might consider tv deals with the CFL (there will always be demand for ANY football) = extra league revenue.

    – extra league revenue can help with league expansion. A team in Quebec City and another in Halifax would allow Winnipeg to move into the 5 team West division.

  6. mfDx says:

    If some of you are like me, you’re logging in to HIO every day hoping for some great preseason news, but instead get to witness the collective anxieties of some overzealous fans. I’ll try to help keep us engaged with other ideas that may provoke thought or discourse until training camp opens and I merrily join in the “death to Chara” chorus. I’ll submit an idea for discussion every other day and hope for comments and feedback.
    Thanks

  7. Bripro says:

    Most who’ve blogged today don’t mind the fact that Markov flies under the radar. But it’s been going on for years. Just as Castor pointed out this morning, it seems that it’s been years since the league has taken the Habs seriously. And it pi••es me off!
    (Ready for my conspiracy theory?)
    If Buttman had his way, Canada would have a (bush) league, and the U.S. would take credit for the NHL.
    I’m not generalizing about Americans, so don’t go reading into that. What I’m saying is since he’s been at the helm, it’s been all U.S. markets, all the time.
    When you go to NHL.com during the season, they point out great plays from U.S. – based cities far more.
    Most transactions are focused on south of the border, and that’s the primary reason Phoenix still has a team and it took this long for Atlanta to be folded and shipped back north.
    I hope the Habs kick some serious ass this year so that we can go do a Ferrence dance (shouldn’t be too hard) in front of NHL headquarters.

  8. Josh says:

    Probably because no one has seen Markov play in 2 years.

  9. rocketsglare says:

    Not surprised Markov is not listed with the other players mentioned.
    More incentive for Markov to prove those doubters or snobs that he
    will have a great rebound season and help the Habs to a successful
    season. Better to play under the radar than over and get shot down.
    Go Habs Go!

  10. Say Ash says:

    Byfuglien could be refused entry into Canada on pending criminal charges? Is that serious?

  11. shiram says:

    A small french piece on Cole.
    The good bits :
    Apparently Bruins and Flyers we’re interested in his services too. Says he is not afraid of the pressure in Montreal (“What pressure, Brian Gionta did not tell me about that, so it should go well!”)

    edit : should have included the link : http://fr-ca.actualites.yahoo.com/lnh-canadien-cole-s%C3%A9duit-par-montr%C3%A9al-185807399.html

    If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

  12. Chris says:

    Down below, HabsFanSince72 asked which Canadian team has been the most mismanaged.

    I noticed that Montreal was left out of the options and decided to crunch the numbers post-lockout. Here’s how it came out.

    Regular Season Success:

    1. Vancouver: 278-165-49, 100.8 Pts per season
    2. Calgary: 258-175-59, 95.8 Pts per season
    3. Montreal: 255-183-54, 94.0 Pts per season
    4. Ottawa: 255-184-53, 93.8 Pts per season
    5. Toronto: 218-206-68, 84.0 Pts per season
    6. Edmonton: 204-233-45, 75.5 Pts per season

    So regular season results would leave Montreal in the middle with Ottawa, one of the popular picks for most mismanaged. What this fails to take into account is the previous 5-10 years; Ottawa was a strong contender for 5-7 years before the lockout, while Montreal was a doormat. It stands to reason that Ottawa should enter a rebuilding phase. Ditto for Calgary, who have been strong for some time and are now facing the reality that their older stalwarts (Iginla, Kiprusoff) are getting too old to shoulder the load that they once carried.

    Edmonton can’t be labelled a complete failure as they have assembled a ridiculous amount of talent from their past few years of futility and look poised to become the next Pittsburgh or Washington, although they appear to lack a generational talent like a Crosby or Ovechkin. Maybe the better analogy would be the Senators of 1995-2005.

    Vancouver has to get the credit as Canada’s best-run franchise. They enjoyed success with Bertuzzi and Naslund as their leaders, and now they should be good for at least another 2-3 years of contending with the Sedins, Kesler and Luongo as their cornerstones.

    This leaves Toronto as the clear failure in the list.

    Playoff Success:

    1. Vancouver – 6 series won, 4 series lost, 2 missed playoffs, 1 SC Finals
    2. Ottawa – 4 series won, 4 series lost, 2 missed playoffs, 1 SC Finals
    3. Montreal – 3 series won, 5 series lost, 1 missed playoffs, 1 conference finals
    4. Edmonton – 3 series won, 1 series lost, 5 missed playoffs, 1 SC Finals
    5. Calgary – 0 series won, 3 series lost, 3 missed playoffs
    6. Toronto – 6 missed playoffs

    Again, by any account, Toronto has to come up the loser. Edmonton had one lucky run to the Finals that boosted their position, but they’ve been dismal since.

    Calgary’s management might deserve some extra ignominy for managing to field a team each year that could compete for the playoffs without actually doing enough for that team to actually do anything if they made it, all the while squandering the prime of two of the top players in the league.

    What’s amazing to me is that 4 different Canadian teams have now made a run to the NHL finals in the past 7 seasons: Calgary (2003-04), Edmonton (2005-06), Ottawa (2006-07) and Vancouver (2010-11). Since Montreal is not one of them, we should probably be a little leery of casting stones at organizations other than Toronto…there’s an awful lot of glass on the Molson Centre.

    • edit: jumped the gun, read that in a rush

      stupid mobile fones

    • You’re looking too far back. The question was clearly on the topic of current management, otherwise the Jets wouldn’t be included.

      http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire

      • Chris says:

        Ignoring the fact that Ottawa and Calgary were overdue for a rebuild in a focus on the last 2-3 years would be a bit deceiving.

        And I can’t count the Jets because the circumstances are entirely different: a non-hockey market with spendthrift owners makes the discussion somewhat difficult. Where would the Thrashers have been if they had been able to hold on to Marc Savard and Marian Hossa? They tried…they offered both guys relatively large contracts. Both guys wanted out of Dodge. The same issue repeated with Ilya Kovalchuk.

        I definitely think the Thrashers made huge mistakes: poor coaching choices, puzzling trades and poor drafting. But with a core of Savard, Hossa and Kovalchuk, they definitely could have contended for playoff spots every season. They just couldn’t lure free agents.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I don’t think points tell the whole story. Ottawa are mismanaged (now) because the team that was best in the league in 2007 was dismantled piece by piece. Now they are left only with voluntary tanking alla Islanders or Oilers.

      The Oilers are a league-wide laughing stock. This is why they have had all those draft picks.

      Nonetheless your conclusion re: the only clear failure on the list is unassailable.

      • Chris says:

        I’m not as convinced that Ottawa has been mismanaged.

        Alfredsson has simply gotten old…he is 39 years old now. That he has performed at the level he has for so long is a testament to how good a player he has been throughout his career.

        Heatley quit on them, as Heatley is somewhat prone to doing.

        Spezza has run face-first into the injury bug, missing 22 and 20 games in the last two seasons. Take Plekanec away from Montreal over the past two years and Montreal might be struggling in the same fashion as Ottawa has done.

        Ray Emery was crazy. Not much you can do about that as an organization.

        Volchenkov got offered far more than he was worth (similar to Komisarek) and they wisely let him go.

        Redden got poached by the Rangers, a fate that the Senators ownership is probably counting its blessings for these days given his self-inflicted flamout.

        I really think that the Senators simply could no longer continue the pipeline of talent that allowed them to maintain such a strong position for so long. I think we’re going to see similar drops by San Jose (very soon) and Detroit (maybe another year or two because of the brilliance of Zetterberg and Datsyuk)…you can’t maintain yourself at the top of the heap indefinitely without very good young players coming up via the pipeline, and that is hard to do when you are consistently drafting late in the 1st round.

      • Chris says:

        As for Edmonton, I would tend to agree with you. But rightly or wrongly, they are poised to become one of the league’s powers. It would take an INCREDIBLE amount of mismanagement to screw that up at this point.

        Even there, they contend with issues that other teams don’t: smaller market, poor ownership (until Katz bought the team) and a VERY undesirable destination for free agents.

        With Kevin Lowe mercifully out of the GM’s post, things should hopefully turn around for the Oilers.

  13. JD_ says:

    A-heh-hem-hemmm…

    Fun with words:

    Dustin Byfuglien…Dustin Buffetline…Bustin’ The Buffet Line?
    Binges, Duly Unfit
    Bulged, Funny It Is
    Dining Tubful, Yes?
    Dines: Bulgy, Unfit

    Yeah, yeah, I know, a wee bit unfair to Dusty. Tell that to the guys who are now on the hook for $26M over the next five years and probably expect a little bit of fiduciary reciprocation.

    As you were.

  14. HabsFan1111 says:

    Just had a random thought after reading that Calgary Herald article … Gomez for Bouwmeester straight up.

    Both are grossly overpaid and could probably use a change in scenery, Gomez may be able to reinvent himself setting up Iggy and Bouwmeester continues to be a stable presence on the blueline. Although thinking about heading into training camp with Eller and DD battling for the second line centre is a little disheartening …

    Thoughts?

    • Gerry H says:

      As much as I am not part of the anti-Gomez chorus, Calgary is one of the few teams that might have a real interest in Scott. Iginla is in desperate need of a play-making centre and Calgary is very thin down the middle. Not sure that Bouwmeester is all that great a fit for the Habs, though. His upside is that he seems to be injury-proof and he definitely has lots of speed. On the other hand, he’s pretty soft and his offensive contribution has been pretty pathetic since his move to Calgary.

    • Cardiac says:

      Despite being an iron man, he hasn’t been putting up the same offensive stats he did in Florida, and let’s face it… the Flames have been a much better team the past two seasons than the Panthers.

      Not sure I’d want to invest $6 mil+ for a d-man who will never win the Norris.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      HabsFan1111 for Habs GM!

  15. BigBird says:

    LMAO at the Andrew Ference flash mob!! Worst I’ve ever seen. Bunch of uncoordinated people out of sync waving their arms around. Shouldn’t they have at least practiced.

  16. JohnBellyful says:

    One could get lost in the facts and figures tossed out there by the hockey mags, and students of the game. Everyone’s working with the same statistics but there are interpretations galore as to what it all means. Rather than add another layer of analysis to the informational overload, I present the following data in its rawest form:

    4.5

    6 > 3 < 5

    22.56

    06/09/11

    23 G 34 A 59

    2(45–23) + 3(3+3) =

    69

    I think the numbers pretty much speak for themselves (we could do without the potty mouth at the end, though).

    • Jordio-oh says:

      4.5 = the over/under on the amount of times AK46 gets benched in the first week of play.

      6 > 3 < 5 = Spacek is better than Emile Bouchard, and so was Boom Boom. (this one is just a taaaaaad off).

      22.56= Markov average ice time for the upcoming season

      06/09/11= the day i realized you were crazy for creating facts and figures and that i was crazy for trying to make sense of them

      23 G 34 A 59 = Pacioretty's point total at the end of the season

      2(45–23) + 3(3+3) = 62, not 69.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Well done, sir. I am impressed. You have a sharper ear than I do when it comes to listening to numbers.
        But you will note, 2(45–23) + 3(3+3) = was on a separate line from 69.
        Numbers will do that to you. They get together, have a few drinks, stop finishing their sentences, and leave you hanging.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        No need to repeat myself

  17. adam76 says:

    VAN Canucks

    7.00
    PHI Flyers

    8.00
    PIT Penguins

    8.00
    WAS Capitals

    9.00
    BOS Bruins

    11.00
    DET Red Wings

    11.00
    LA Kings

    11.00
    TB Lightning

    13.00
    SJ Sharks

    13.00
    BUF Sabres

    15.00
    CHI Blackhawks

    15.00
    MON Canadiens

    21.00
    NAS Predators

    26.00
    ANA Ducks

    26.00
    NJ Devils

    26.00
    TOR Maple Leafs

    26.00
    NY Rangers

    26.00
    CAR Hurricanes

    41.00
    DAL Stars

    41.00
    STL Blues

    41.00
    CAL Flames

    41.00
    PHX Coyotes

    41.00
    WIN Jets

    41.00
    MIN Wild

    51.00
    OTW Senators

    51.00
    EDM Oilers

    51.00
    CBS Blue Jackets

    51.00
    NY Islanders

    51.00
    COL Avalanche

    51.00
    FLO Panthers

    101.00

  18. Rossy says:

    Wow. Look at all the Habs’ fans giving Ference the finger. Awesome.

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    Which is the most embarrassingly run franchise in Canada: Sens, Leafs, Jets, Flames or Oilers?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Too soon to lump in the Jets, though they have had their share of snags already.

      I really have to give it to the Leafs, no team has more resources to draw from yet they are now in the running with the Mighty Florida Panthers for playoff futility.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        In favor of the Jets, they managed to become a bit of a laughing stock before the first puck-drop.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I know, while my homegrown civic pride wants me to be proud of them for getting back to the dance, there have been more than a few curious things done by this franchise. Even just the fact it took till now to get a jersey done is strange.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            Although, in fairness (not that there is any need to be fair), Houle-era Habs were pretty embarrassing.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            That era was so bad, I wondered if we were ever going to turn it around. That was the lowest of the lows.

    • Cardiac says:

      The Leafs… 40 years of mediocrity and still going strong. The icing on the cake for me was last weeks story on how Richard Peddie wants a Cup ring after his retirement.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • savethepuck says:

      The Sens were a perennial playoff team until last season, and they were consistently considered easily 1 of the top 3 teams in the East up until maybe 5 years ago. That rules them out.
      The Jets haven’t played a full season yet in Canada, that rules them out.
      The Oilers, although tanking the last few years have at least been in the Stanley Cup finals in the last 10 years, and may have a promising future.
      The Flames are generally a playoff team, and if not, they at least come close. Like the Oilers, they’ve been in the Stanley Cup Finals in the last 10 years. That rules them out.
      Who am I forgetting? Oh Yeah, the Leafs. The only title they can lay claim to is the longest draught in the NHL for Stanley Cup Champions ( 1967 and expecting to be counting for many years to come). Not making the playoffs since before the lockout ( I think?) despite having sellouts every night and an unlimited budget except for the Cap playing in their self-proclaimed Hockey Capital of the world ( We all know it’s Montreal ). They are the hands down winner, no contest.

    • G-Man says:

      Laffs for Longevity. Sens for senility. Flames for Flamboyance. Oilers for Oil-levity, and Jets for Juxtapositioning Atlanta. Vancouver for Vamping (and Luongo’s incredibly stooooooooooooopid contract)

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      savethepuck and G-Man have it. For consistently overpromising and under-delivering, the Maple Leafs are in a class of their own.

      ———————————
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  20. HabFab says:

    Another one of our prospects profiled;
    http://www.allhabs.net/canadiens-prospects/whos-this-guy-colin-sullivan/

    Serious thinks we should use our 7th pick to draft Russians, which is not a bad idea. Or we can use it on highly ranked kids that have slid thru the draft… like this one.

  21. HabFab says:

    Fantasy Focus on the rest of the Habs and mightbees;
    http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=2573

  22. JD_ says:

    The reason Marky’s not included on the list is because he was never injured. Everybody knows he’s been fakin’ it to rest up ahead of Sochi 2014.

    Flames’ President Ken King givin’ it to some of the fans and GM Jay Feaster givin’ it to the Oilers. That’s some good shiz. You rarely hear stuff like that around here – the Gainey/Breezer incident is the last one that comes to mind – and I’m cool with that. But, still, it’s fun to hear it comin’ from someone other than WilsyBurkie™.

    Speakin’ of WilsyBurkie™, it’s awfully quiet these days. Are the Jays playin’ .500 this season?

    Not even a peep on Luke Schenn who, accordin’ to Pierre McGuire, is “one of the most complete players in the league.” I guess Schenn’s camp is just waitin’ to see what Doughty signs for and then will just top it off with another $1M-$2M, you know, a premium for all that completeness.

    *cough*

    Boucher’s piece on how Engqvist fits into the team’s plans for line combos is interestin’, but it clearly needs Tweakin’™. Unlike Poindexter Bentley, who clearly freebases InstaPoise™ – has PK ever really looked like he doesn’t belong in the big leagues? – Andreas, although of impressive size, looked a bit lost durin’ his short stint. The good thing? Engqvist has played too much pro hockey to not be aware of this and plans to show the coachin’ staff the kind of shutdown game he is capable of when he’s given his next chance, kinda like White and MaxPac had healthy epiphanies about their own game last season.

    I’m readin’ that NHLPA head Donald Fehr has been visitin’ players both in North America and Europe – and, clearly, bein’ very frugal with his expense account, you know, why go full-blown Petrus ’82 when the Chateau Lafite is a g-note cheaper – and talkin’ two core points: The CBA and headshots/concussions.

    Maybe, just maybe, Fehr will help make good things happen. As noted the other day, this isn’t just about the NHL Rulebook. And Bettman is many things, but one of them is most certainly not st00pid.

  23. Timo says:

    Streit a star player?! Right. Streit is nothing but a MAB wannabe. He will never achieve the awesomeness of MAB.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I liked Mark Streit Timo, over MAB. He was a better all round player.
      Reading the ice, break out passes, skating and puck control. Both had great shots.

      Star!, neither one.

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      Streit is far superior, but he also costs much more.
      But definitely would have streit over mab… better hockey sense, could pass, and not the 1 trick pony in mab that will cause more goals against your team than he will score on the pp… mab is a crappier souray

  24. Exit716 says:

    Why is everyone surprised that the NHL.com site omitted Markov. When he signed, some of the Bruins media were comparing him to third rate defenders like Corvo.

    • avatar_58 says:

      Good. Who wants to be expected to be a top team? I’d rather have a bunch of underrated players that no one but us sees the greatness in. Like PK, Plek and Pacioretty

  25. Castor says:

    LET THEM UNDERESTIMATE THE HABS
    Like every year. Then when they are the team that comes the closest to knocking out the champs or the team that gets to the ECF everyone can say they are “surprised”.

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Is there any truth to the rumour that Mike Richards was spotted driving a car in New Jersey just moments after Holmgren was hit while cycling?

  27. Trisomy 21 says:

    Has anyone else thought of how many other teams will be envious of our 3rd line? not because of their scoring ability but the fact we have a tall blonde flanked by double D, Tits

    • Cardiac says:

      I’ll bite…

      While I can’t stand Stock, and there is something tasteless about his comments, he’s not the only one speculating foul play. I guess when someone with Belak’s public persona supposedly takes his own life due, once again supposedly, from depression it’s a hard pill to swallow.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • JustSomeguy says:

      So …

      I Googled “stark belak” to get a better handle on what happened and came up with …

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECI6gfAWOLQ

      My $.02 is that Stark heard from a friend whose 2nd cousin dated once dated a cop who blah blah blah.

      What we have is that: Belak took a lot of hits to the head; tough guys frequently play hurt / play through concussions; tough guys often come out of pro careers with booze or pill problems; the symptoms of post concussion syndrome are nasty — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-concussion_syndrome — and include some eye-openers …

      Psychological symptoms, which are present in about half of people with PCS, may include irritability, anxiety, depression, and a change in personality.[5] Other emotional and behavioral symptoms include restlessness,[21] aggression,[22] mood swings, anger, decreased libido,[19] impulsiveness, loss of social judgment,[23] and lack of ability to tolerate stress or alcohol.[7] People with PCS may also display a lack of emotion,[24] emotional lability,[20] or mood swings. Another common symptom—apathy, or lack of motivation—may result directly from the syndrome or be secondary to depression.[5]

    • Ah another great read from Puck Daddy.

      Waste of space and time.

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    • Chorske says:

      PJ must have missed the lecture on Occam’s Razor.

  28. RetroMikey says:

    My surprise Habs player this year…..David Desharnais who will play more minutes than Lars Eller who is under the gun this year.
    And Yemelin will will be raving about!
    But one more Markov injury and it’s bye bye bye for us this season!
    Even with a healthy lineup, I see us finishing in 7th place.
    We are just overrated from our fans in my opinion.
    Another season where my ulcers will act up again.
    But lets go Nole in his quest for the US open!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  29. habs03 says:

    So I’m bored and looking ahead into next off-season. I figure Gill its going to be the end of the line for Gill and the Habs, so he might go play elsewhere. I see A.Kost walking as UFA, along with Spacek and Moen. I have a feeling even if Gomez bounces back for a 50-60 season, he is a goner. I would love to sign Jarret Stoll, Tim Gleason, Cory Sarich, and Lee Stempniak

    Cammy-Pleck-Cole
    Patches-Stoll-Gionta
    DD-Eller-Stempniak
    Darche-Engqvist-White
    xx
    Markov-Gorges
    Gleason-Subban
    Yemelin-Sarich/Weber

    what would u guys think of that..
    :)

    • HabinBurlington says:

      ? So is this a projected lineup for next year then? We may want to see how the current roster plays this year in order to make decisions on who is leaving via UFA/Retirement/trade.

      • HardHabits says:

        habs03 did the ultimate Tweak™ post. Not only did he project line combos but he projected hypothetical line combos for 2 seasons from now after making NHL12 armchair GM trades.

        Bottom line. Needs Tweaking™.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I personally cannot fathom tweaking done to that extent. I am exhausted just trying to comprehend Stoll for Gomez.

          • habs03 says:

            As HardHabits said, just messing around with the lineup, and see what possibilities are there in the future. In regards to Stoll/Gomez. It would simply be trading Gomez in the off-season, should be easy with his salary going down. And signing Stoll as a FA. Stoll is exactly what we need, a decent 2nd line C, or can be a great 3rd C. Right hand shot, amazing in face-offs.

    • Chorske says:

      I would love to sign Jarret Stoll, Tim Gleason, Cory Sarich, and Lee Stempniak

      I would love to get belly rubs from Scarlett Johansson, Katy Perry, Rihanna, and Mila Kunis. As far fetched as it may seem, my ambitions are two bajillion times more likely to be realized than yours.

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      Hehe, while armchair GM/Coach is fun, we can barely project next game :P
      Gill and Spacek will be gone, as we will need A LOT of cap space to resign, PK, Price and Pacioretty to BIG raises.
      AK will have another .55 season, will sign another 3 years, for the same money, as this is contract year, i expect him to do a bit better so 25-30 goals, with about 20 assists.

    • Mike D says:

      I think the only for sure goner there is Spacek. Gill wanted a 2 year contract this offseason and was only given one. If he shows that his age doesn’t slow him down any further, he may get another year even if it’s only as a bottom pairing/mentor role (possibly to Weber). His salary will be low and he’s exactly the guy you need on your D in the playoffs.

      I could see Moen being resigned although for a reduced salary. Mind you, he only makes 1.5mil now which is already fairly low. He brings some size to a club that needs it and he’s excellent defensively and on the PP which is something JM has to love. Add that to his cup experience and he still provides value at a low cost.

      It’s anyone’s guess what will happen with AK. I am guessing he’ll be gone either via trade during the season if PG gets the right offer, or will walk away as a UFA in the summer. If the conflicts that currently exist are resolved he might stay, but this seems less plausible to me especially because his salary would be 4mil+ if he has another typical year in point production or better. It may also depend on how a player like Palushaj progresses this year. If he looks like he can adequately step into a top 9 role and provide some scoring punch, PG will likely prefer to have a much lower salaried player in that spot for future building considerations. Of course this is also assuming that what we saw from MaxPac last year was not just a hot streak, and that he can do what he did for an entire season and playoffs.

      – Honestly yours

  30. Neutral says:

    The Habs have a very good team on paper, on the ice is where it counts…

    • hehe, thanks for stating the obvious.

      “The key to success is to be successful”

      “I’m not going to lie to you men, in order to win you have to score”

      “you wanna play defense? Then learn to skate backwards”

      Shane Oliver
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    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Wait, what?

      So what your saying is although we have some good players, we have to go out and win in real life….

      Why has no one thought of this before?

      You, sir, hit the nail dead center in the head with this one.

      I have one you might be interested in:
      The winning numbers for this weeks Lotto Super 7 will be consist of seven random numbers between 1-49…..

      your welcome everyone.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Neutral, you are the voice of reason again. I guess the Flyers petition that they be awarded the Cup in October will not be granted by the NHL, and the games will have to be played.

      Thanks for keeping us grounded.

      ———————————
      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • Neutral says:

        Un Canadien errant: I would award the cup in october to the Capitals not Flyers.

        voice of reason again. very good chance they’ll win the Eastern Conference.

  31. Dave Stubbs says:

    Useless fact of the day: Today is the 47th birthday of 1982 New York Islanders draft pick and four-game NHLer Todd Okerlund, more famously known as the son of World Wrestling Federation/Entertainment icon Mean Gene Okerlund.

    Dave Stubbs

    Hockey Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1
    • Email: dstubbs@montrealgazette.com

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Ahhh Mean Gene, the face of wrestling for me growing up. My neighbour growing up was one of the hometown wrestlers for Winnipeg who had to lose his matches with all the stars when they came to town. Mean Gene was at his house one day with about 15 of the wrestlers sitting out back drinking some cold pops. I got to meet him, Bobby the Brain, Jumpin Jim Brunzell, Greg and Vern Gagne, The Crusher, Nick Bockwinkle and a few others. Oh the days when I almost thought wrestling was real!

      Of course my favourite wrestler was Baron VonRaschke, Da Claw!!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVGCAJtmTo

      Mean Gene having a little chat with The Baron himself.

      • HabsFanInTampa says:

        I used to follow wrestling as a young kid in the early 70’s. My all-time favorite wrestler at the time was Edouard Carpentier.

        • HardHabits says:

          I loved it when EC did his trade mark multiple flips on his opponent to end a match.

          • Bripro says:

            Don’t forget André the Giant, or as they called him when I was young,
            Giant Jean Ferré.
            I shook his hand as a 12-year old, at the old Forum.
            What stands out is how my hand and forearm disappeared under his monstrous paws.
            What a beast!

      • HabFarmer says:

        Dr. X!!

        “No, I see. The monkey’s out of the bottle now!”

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        What do you mean, “of course” your favourite wrestler was bla bla blah? Apparently you like all the others are blind to the fact that the Honky Tonk Man was the longest reigning Inter-Continental Champion, and was only usurped when that Vince McMahon-pet the Ultimate Warrior was handed an undeserved title match, and won it under mysterious circumstances.

        Honky was a skilled practitioner of the wrestling arts, he could go scientific on you or get down and dirty. His finishing move, the Shake, Rattle and Roll was the most devastating move in wrestling. He had style, the ladies loved him, but most of all he had honour and integrity. Quite often during a title match, he would prefer that it finish in a draw, or even that he be DQ’ed if he felt that something was going wrong. He respected the game and the belt too much for him to lose it under murky circumstances.

        The Mean Gene-Vince McMahon Axis of Evil had it in for him and kept the Ultimate Warrior out of wrestling cards so that Honky couldn’t see him at work and go about devising a plan to defend his title. Had Honky been allowed to bring his considerable intellect to bear, the Ultimate Warrior wouldn’t have lasted fifteen seconds in the ring with him. Instead, Honky was caught short, he was in the ring already playing his guitar and getting the love from all the ladies in the stands when they foisted this ‘roided rookie on him. And after the perfidy, we were stuck with a champion who had all the charisma of a parking metre. Oh, you wear makeup and wristbands? And armbands? How unconventional!

        The injustices perpetrated against the Honky Tonk Man rival those of the NHL in favour of the Bruins last season. I see posters outraged that our very own Andrei Markov is being snubbed by nhl.com today, but if they only knew how Honky Tonk was first betrayed and then sandbagged, so that he was much too quickly forgotten, they would understand the meaning of the term ‘injustice’.

        ———————————
        How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Exit716 says:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5mA1_YBufE

      Gene could also belt out a mean rock tune as well.

  32. 24 Cups says:

    The following Damien Cox quote was included in my copy of the Toronto Star paper this morning but has been deleted from his online version. I’m not sure why it was deleted but it says a lot about the lack of integrity of PJ Stock.

    “Wade Belak’s apparent suicide hit the hockey world like a tornado last week, with all kinds of confusion left in the wake of this tragedy. His mother said that he suffered from depression. But PJ Stock, now a CBC HNIC commentator, was quoted as saying that Belak died by ‘strangulation’ but didn’t hang himself, as many reports have suggested.
    Here’s hoping Stock will have the courtesy to explain himself, and soon. Perhaps our national broadcaster should insist.”

  33. JohnBellyful says:

    Hockey commentator Milt Dunno reports more details are emerging as to how much Byfuglien has bulked up over the summer. Stories out of Winnipeg say he’s gotten so big:
    – observatories are tracking him
    – he has his own national anthem
    – his number this season is 109873
    – people tremble in his presence, with every step he takes
    – his wardrobe includes an asteroid belt
    – when he breaks wind he breaks windows
    Winnipeg and Montreal appear to have similar problems. One has a player who’s overweight, the other a player who’s overpaid. How can they get over it? Make a blockbuster trade. What Winnipeg will pay in extra salary will be more than offset by savings in other areas of spending (post-game food budget, two seats for one player on every flight, outsized equipment etc) while Montreal gets the heavyweight it’s longed for the past few seasons.

    • savethepuck says:

      I am totally shocked that he came in at #1

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • Sharks9 says:

      I love that picture they have for him!

      25 before 14

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      The Top 4 was kind of obvious before we even voted as a panel, to me it was more interesting to see how the group split on the rest of the prospects.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • Chris says:

      prospecta person regarded as likely to succeed or as a potential customer, client, etc.:

      Labelling Price as a prospect kind of makes the whole thing rather stupid, to be honest. There are very few NHL players that are less of a “prospect” than Carey Price.

      We know what we’ve got, for all intents and purposes. There might be growing pains along the way, but he’s been an established NHL starting goaltender for 4 seasons now.

      After last season, he has established himself as a bona fide star. Guys from his draft year could conceivably be eligible for unrestricted free agency as of next summer (if they have played 7 full NHL seasons). Kind of makes the whole idea of being a prospect a little silly, no?

  34. HabinBurlington says:

    So while I appreciate the work done with the numbers to justify Enqvist’s role on the 4th line potentially this season, I don’t think extrapolating 3 games is close to a good enough sample size.

    Were his numbers in the AHL last year consistent with the 3game sampler in the NHL? Or was the role played in Hamilton different than that of his 3 game stint.

    I do agree that Enqvist has the inside track to win this role, it will make watching the exhibition games of a little more interest as I will focus in more on how he does. Of course I will then file my report send off to John Bellyfull who has JM’s ear after going through the interview process this summer during the Asst. Coach search.

    And no surprise the NHL ignored Markov, in fact for that matter MaxPac could also be on that list. But the NHL no longer even realizes that Montreal is in the league. As Lawrencetown said earlier, all the better we stay below the radar until they see us hoisting Lord Stanley!

  35. Habfan29 says:

    a Little off topic here but did anyone catch the Als -Cats game yesterday. I bet that the Als felt like the habs, Hamilton played well but for the Ticats to have only one penalty at the end of the game is unbelievable, especially in the flag happy CFL. I smell a rat….

  36. HabFab says:

    My first reaction to seeing the posted video was not another d@mn Brun article! However after viewing it for…uhh!… research purposes…yeah!research purposes… actually felt some sympathy…(bit tongue) cause…
    The LADIES of Montreal are so so much better looking!!

  37. slychard says:

    I would napalm anyplace that plays that owe owe o, owe owe, owe owe, owe, owe, song. Yeah I defenitely would.

  38. SeriousFan09 says:

    Guimauve found out that 2 poutines a day is not a modern athlete’s diet, only took him half a decade to work it out too. MIN much like CLB is lacking D though so despite their offensive upgrade playoffs seem unlikely, few teams can score their way out of defensive issues. Burns is gone and they gave up Nick Leddy who is going to be a regular with CHI this year at 20 years old.

  39. slychard says:

    Awesomerino. ??????

  40. awesomerino says:

    Finally! An article about Toe Blake and how he liked to win. Nice to see the 1940s and ’50s era Canadiens finally getting their due.

  41. slychard says:

    Odd, I thought you were blowing it out of proportion untill I clicked on the link and saw the headline… Odd indeed. We hab fans know Markov belongs at the top of that list. That is all. We stand above and alone as usual. Good day all.

  42. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    No worries on Markov. I like us flying under radars, all the way to the end of June.

    ____________________________________________________
    They lost me 2 quarts of rum, better make it up next year with a cup!


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