Markov becoming a Canadian citizen

Canadiens all-star defenceman Andrei Markov, a Russian native, reportedly will be sworn in as a Canadian citizen in a Montreal court this week.

Radio-Canada is reporting the news tonight, echoed by CKAC, but credit columnist Mike Cohen of The Suburban for breaking the story in his column last week. Cohen reported that a source told him a pitch had been made to the Canadiens to hold a swearing-in ceremony at the Bell Centre during a game, but that it was turned down.

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  1. The Capitalist Pig says:

    Just keep responding randomly to posts. It breaks up the day for the rest of us Adrianno. (Oh, I noticed you don’t use your name any more. Are you a secret mod these days under deep cover?)

  2. StevieRay says:

    Jays never have no chance in hell ..any year … they allow their young pitchers to throw way to many innings … Escabar IS a head case and a distraction in the room … that’s why te Braves gave up on him ..

    As for Bosh .. he was to soft anyway . but I’m sure they could of picked up something for him at the end of last season … and in case you haven’t noticed ..their past first round picks ..especially Bergani.. are nothing to brag about … + no one wants to play BB in Hogtown … to cold !!~!

  3. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’d put Schenn a bit over on Komisarek, he’s less likely to hit an opposing player’s shinpad with his shots and he can throw a decent punch. On the whole, no idea why the kid has such hero worship going on.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  4. ooder says:

    ian if you were to move to Mosco or St-Petersburg

    your jaw would drop.

    especially if you took the metro


    88 is the new 23

  5. pic1983 says:

    Personally I think the NHL should be working on the Hockey Champions league. Take the stanley cup finalists, and the championship winners from the european leagues, and put them against each other in a two week tournament.  Get fans in europe interested in the NHL, and then go for TV deals and merchandising agreements in Europe.  At least in Europe you arent trying to CREATE a hockey fanbase like they are in the US, because it already exists. 

  6. Mark C says:

    You are right, I’m not a Blue Jays fan, but this trade was an easy one to make. Gonzalez’ number are so inflated because of his month of April, .946 OPS, monthly OPS’ of .694 and .745 since. Escobar was a top 10 SS coming into the season, odds are we’ll be that player again.

  7. pic1983 says:

    Im almost 100% sure that as far as the IIHF goes, once a player wears a certain countries jersey, even in a major junior hockey tournament like the WJHC, they can never play for another country.

  8. gauver says:

    I wonder if finding himself somewhere else is his real goal.  He may already accept that he must play better for a couple of seasons in a row before getting his payday.  He may think that he has a better chance to evolve somewhere (anywhere) else, away from a critical press and booing fans.  The USA maybe?

    What do you think?

  9. Smiss says:

    You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about.

    For Bosh :

    They get back 2 first round picks and a trade exception which allows the team to sign players over the salary cap.

    For the Jays trade : practically everybody in the city (that follows the Jays) are thrilled with it. They trade Gonzalez, a 33-year old who is aging and overachieving on a contract year for a 27-year old with HUGE upside that is having an off year. Escobar was considered an untouchable at the beginning of the season. The Jays can’t compete in their division through free agency so they are trying to load up their young talent pool and this is a great move for them going forward. They have no chance in hell this year, Gonzalez is irrelevant despite his good season.

  10. TomNickle says:

    In my eyes Schenn is another Komisarek.

    If he could’ve had Fowler or Gormley, he should have done it.  But I wouldn’t have traded Schenn for the sake of trading him.

  11. CBrady12 says:

    You dont understand WHY Betteman wants to sell hockey to Americans….is that a serious question??

  12. Danno says:

    Grip it and rip it Long John!

    The neat thing about John Daly is he became a fan favourite by being a bad boy and wasn’t shy about it.

    This, in contrast to Tiger Woods who lived a squeaky-clean image that was a lie, which brought about his downfall when it all was exposed.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  13. mike g says:

    Without Kaberle, they’ll win about 20 games. He’s the engine in that ’92 Sunfire..

    But regarding Schenn, I havent seen anything in his game that’s special or superb. Sure he looks like a great teammate and a good guy in the room, but with the depth in this years draft and the number of high quality players who were left undrafted past the 10th pick, I think I would have dealt him.

    If his full potential is reached, he reminds me of an Aaron Ward type player. Solid #4 defenseman, but those guys can be found almost every year on the UFA market. Now, if there was nobody left in the draft that the Leafs thaught was good enough to replace Schenn, well then that’s their opinion. Maybe he’s an “untouchable”, just because he’s that good with the players?

    I don’t know. All I know is when Gormley and Fowler were still available past the 10th pick, if Burke refused a chance to draft those guys over trading Schenn, well there must be something we don’t know.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  14. G-Man says:

    Imagine being educated about 1759 being a seminal moment and you are told you were on the losing side. Not only that, but the English Throne has been nothing but oppressors ever since. Many in Quebec believe that utter garbage.

  15. gauver says:

    I caught the last half of that segment; Burke made a come back to finish second to Anthopoulos as the best GM in Toronto professional sports.  I think Burke has done a fairly good job so far except for the Kessel trade because he paid too much for what is, admittedly, a solid top-six forward.

    Thanks for posting the link to the article regarding Pollock.  It is a good read.  I find it revealing that the man most-widely regarded as the best GM ever in professional hockey recommended rules for the initial NHL expansion that would prevent the trading of draft picks for the first five years so that the new teams could become competitive with the established most quickly.  If ever there was a strong argument in favour of the use of the draft as the primary method to build a winning team, this would be it. 

    As it applies to the 2010/2011 Canadiens, should the team trade established players like Markhov for bona fide prospects and/or high draft picks?  Or, do you believe that the Habs can become a Cup contender based on the methods used in the last 10 years?

  16. CBrady12 says:

    way to show encourgaement!

  17. StevieRay says:

    I predict a Meltdown …. the winds are coming …..he just had one of those days … but good for him ..

  18. mike g says:

    He has a Quebec car flag.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  19. StevieRay says:

    again this shows the ” knowledge ?????) of Toronto sports ??? fans . The Raptors just let their best player go without anything in return .again the had previously let Cater and MacGrady walk for nothing in return!~

    Just yesterday the Jays traded away their clutch hard hitting( 17 dingers )  Shortstop to the Braves more a much younger , no dingers,deah case Escobar ..

    So I thing all 3 …GM’s for the Laffs,Jays and Raps are all incompetent !! 

  20. SLONCOLD says:

    Canadian eh? wonder if that means he’s part of the quebec “nation”

  21. TomNickle says:

    Actually, I don’t find that to be ill advised at all.

    Schenn is and will be an effective defenseman and if you’re going to trade him for a first round pick it needs to be a high quality pick.

    But trading Kaberle will set them back another 5 years ala Ottawa with a serious lack of puck moving defensemen.  Wade Redden is terrible no doubt, but until Karlsson made the jump that team couldn’t get the puck out of their own end.

    A players value isn’t often associated with his overall game but rather what he brings to your team and how important that skill or talent is.  Kaberle is incredibly valuable to that team and I can understand why Burke won’t move him.  If he lets him go to free agency for nothing, that’s another story.

  22. mike g says:

    The funniest thing is how he refused a 1st round pick for Shenn…

    Then he went on to say that he refused because it wasn’t a high enough pick, and that he would only listen to offers for Schenn if it was a top 10 pick. Is that guy serious, does he still eat Lucky Charms for breakfast just because he’s Irish?

    Luke Schenn is a d-man that get’s 10 pts per year if he’s lucky. His overall potential is a 3rd or 4th defenseman at best.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  23. JD_ says:

    Ian moves to the front of the class.

  24. Curtoph says:

    I would do that! I mean, some say he is injury prone, but he is a tremendous player, and helps move the puck so well! I am pretty positive that he will continue to be the same elite defense man he is until he is 39 years old. He is smart and can defend against the toughest opponents, i’m sure even his skill will rub off on the young defensemen coming through, for example Subban, and he can also cover for a less defensive partner, as we saw him covering MAB’s butt a lot.

  25. likehoy says:

    lol………i don’t know if the rules are like international soccer, but after representing 1 country at the highest level, they can’t represent any other country again.

  26. Jbird says:

    My take on Toronto fans is that their are lots of Leafs fans who we hear from the most.  They are the ones getting aroused from BB.  But there are around a million more rational sports fans in TO who understand what the heck is really going on.  For the most part Torontonians understand they lousy place in sports.  Hardcore Leafs fans do not.    

  27. TomNickle says:

    The biggest problem for them is that Burke never committed to a rebuild.  He was very clear that it isn’t his style and maybe that’s because in his last stop he inherited a team very close to the Cup and had Scott Niedermeyer pick his team before he even sat in the GM’s chair.  

    That team just traded away one of their promising young players in Stalberg for a guy who’s been hidden in a very good lineup in Versteeg.  A lot of people here like his game but I find him highly overrated.

    The good prospects they have left are limited to Kadri, Bozak and Aulie in my opinion.

    You can’t build a team around Kessel, Phaneuf and Schenn.

    He’s going to get a longer leash than JFJ got, but that doesn’t mean he’ll do any better.

  28. Clay4bc says:

    From first-hand experience, I can assure you that St. Petersburg is amazing, though…Kabul – not so much (or so I hear).


    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  29. Jbird says:


    I doubt he is giving up his Russian citizenship but would that be awesome and hilarious!

  30. Bob Barker says:

    Except in the KHL where he would probably make more especially with the low taxes. 

  31. joeybarrie says:

    No one is really watching. Plus if you keep both address’ no one can tell. I have live in the USA for 8 years now, and keep both my Canadian and American papers. You can hold 3 passports, and most countries (other than the USA) allow dual citizenship.

    I could live outside the USA for 50 years and walk back in no problem. Only 1 question asked… “why would you want to live outside the USA???”

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  32. Jbird says:

    You can be a Permanent Resident for your whole life.  I was with a woman yesterday who was explaining to me that she immigrated Portugal in 1970 and that she is only now becoming a citizen so that she can vote in the next election.  Her husband will not become a citizen – his choice.  

    It would imply that Markov wants to live at least part of his post career life in Canada.   

  33. mike g says:

    My neighbor’s grass is way greener than mine though….

    Anyways, I get what you’re point is and it’s actually surprising. I thaught everyone in Laff Land was popping stiffies with Burke, loved Kessel and Komi-Homie, and thaught Kadri was gonna raise the Cup in T.O. next year.

    It’s actually nice to hear that even they understand that he’s building the team the same way he did in Vancouver. They’ll eventually be a good team and compete, but never a great one.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  34. jew4jah says:

    team canada 2014?

  35. PrimeTime says:

    Interesting program at noon yesterday on The Fan while driving in Toronto and listening to callers call in to discuss “The worst GM in Toronto” of their 5 professional sports teams. Burke was only behind Adam Reda (Argo’s) as the fans vote. Nearly all that called in say the Kessel trade will set the club back ‘again’ another 5 years. No one called in to support any of Burke’s moves to date and wonder what the hell he’s done so far to rebuild this team. Moral of the story: Grass is not always greener on the other side.


    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock The reason we are Hab fans

  36. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – i was under the impression that the people living in Quebec don’t consider themselves as being Canadian citizens:-)

    All kidding aside, we should never forget that we are privileged to live in one of the top ten countries in the world.

  37. Storm Man says:

    I would not have Grabovski on that list he is as productive as a rat on skates.

  38. TomNickle says:

    Yep. He didn’t develop properly either.

  39. Ian Cobb says:

    Paul, you could pay me 10 million and I would never live in Kabul or Russia full time for that matter. By the way, that is why he lives in Canada. He can not make that money elsewhere!!!

  40. TomNickle says:

    Without really breaking down the numbers I would definitely give him a long term front loaded deal.

    8 years and $40 million sounds really good to me.

  41. Les-Habitants says:

    I think they’ll give OB every opportunity to get himself a permanent role.  That said, it’ll be interesting to see what happens when Markov does return.  You can never discount injury, especially amongst d-men, but if everyone is playing healthy, who do they sit out?  The easy answer is OB, but if he builds on last season and is given a chance, he has a real chance to stick – even more so because he fills a void in the lineup we’ve had since Komi left.

  42. likehoy says:

    tomas vokoun!

  43. mike g says:

    Would you sign Andrei to a 7-year, 37 million $ deal?

    Year 1,2- 6.5 mill.

    Year 3- 6 mill

    Year 4- 5.5 mill

    Year 5, 6- 4.5 mill

    Year 7- 3.5 mill

    Cap hit of 5.28 mill, which I think is excellent for a player of his calibur. This would mean he’d likely finish his career here, being 39 when this deal expires.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  44. TomNickle says:

    I forgot Markov and O’Byrne.

  45. derfab says:

    Glory Glory les Glorieux!


  46. Mark C says:

    Plus he can fight there. Now, I’m not some rah rah fighting fan, but it seems clear that fighting will become part of his role and game. I always thought that going to college and not developing the ability to fight hurt Komisarek. With the flash point being the Lucic fight. 


  47. The Teacher says:

    Is this supposed to be funny? A form of protest? A way to kill time?


    Please enlighten me, because I haven’t the foggiest.

  48. TomNickle says:


    Hainsey, Asham, Streit, Grabovski, Halak, Sergei Kostitsyn, Ribeiro, Rivet, Latendresse, Higgins, Komisarek, Leighton, Danis, Garon, Huet, Theodore, Koivu.

    Plekanec, Price, Subban, Lapierre, Andrei Kostitsyn.

    Everyone of them is a productive NHLer and were developed here at one point or another.

  49. Storm Man says:

    John Daly cards a 66 at the open today in round 1. I hope he is in the mix on Sunday that would be a feel good story.

  50. avatar_58 says:

    Have you seen Desjardins play? Price is miles ahead of him. You want to talk about soft goals and rookie decisions? No, leave Desjardins in Hamilton to mature. It makes me laugh that folks talk of rushing then go “hey let’s rush another!”

  51. The Teacher says:

    My understanding that a long-term injury replacement (LTIR) exemption for the cap only comes into effect after a certain number of games have been played without the player (I think it is 40 or something), although 12 is another number that comes to mind (further proof I am not 100% sure).


    However, you can only replace the player with a player that makes the same salary or less. The rub is that when your player comes back, you have to be at your pre-injury cap status, including the new player you may have traded for, acquired etc. So basically, if our cap hit with markov is 59 million, we can only replace him with a player that still keeps us under the cap, UNTIL Markov gets back.


    I might not be very clear, but it’s earlyish, so if you need me to clarify anything, just ask.

  52. B37zc says:

    considering that he is injury prone I would not expect more than he is getting now

  53. B37zc says:

    few ounces of plumbum

  54. Malreg says:

    Well, every player took a pay cut with the salary cap.  I don’t remember exactly how much it was though.  Take a look at this article:

    It lists the top 250 salaries from 2003-2004.  Interesting notes: 7 players making 10 mil or more(I counted Sakic who made 9.88…).  5 more who made $9 million.  6 who made between $8-$9 million.  Some pretty crazy salaries for some of those players.  Jason Allison making $8 mil, Prospal $6.5 mil, Palffy $7 mil, Holik $8.85 mil…


  55. mike g says:

    Was this done by choice, or after a certain amount of time working in another country you have to become a citizen?

    I have family who moved down to Alabama 12 years ago. I’m pretty sure they’re American citizens now, because they only return twice a year for 2 weeks. Aren’t there some laws that say if you stay 6 months per year or so in your home country you can retain citizenship?

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  56. TomNickle says:

    Markov is MILES more valuable than Gonchar.

    Ottawa was desperate and overpaid.  You could assume of course that another team in the league would do the same with Markov but overpaying Markov goes into the $7 million per year range.

    His true value is somewhere between $5.5 and $6.5 million annually based on the market and what he brings to the table.

  57. habitual says:

    No discussion on the pillaging of Hamilton.  The farm team is critical to the future of the NHL team that sponsors them.  Even with Boucher and his reputation our prospects have too often not developed as hoped.  Now Brisbois possibly going.  This does not bode well for the Habs for the next several years ….

  58. likehoy says:

    markov and gorges weren’t very good together last year.

    the problem is that gorges fancies himself a contributor by jumping into the play and trying to pinch in from the point…that cramps markov’s style because HE needs to do that…gorges is better with gill.

  59. Storm Man says:

    Pierre just think if you had some meat in your diet you would be a beast also.

  60. SeriousFan09 says:

    Speaking as someone who watched Desjardins play in Hamilton, I know that isn’t happening. The guy is not at the NHL level yet, bad to terrible puckhandling and skating issues. Focus issues have also been levelled at him.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  61. Malreg says:

    The Hunters rarely miss out on a prospect, and I would love to see Tinordi spend a year there.

  62. Storm Man says:

    What is the tax rate like?

  63. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hey, I think this is my first triple post ever. Time for a drink…

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