Markov becoming a Canadian citizen

Canadiens all-star defenceman Andrei Markov, a Russian native, reportedly will be sworn in as a Canadian citizen in a Montreal court this week.

Radio-Canada is reporting the news tonight, echoed by CKAC, but credit columnist Mike Cohen of The Suburban for breaking the story in his column last week. Cohen reported that a source told him a pitch had been made to the Canadiens to hold a swearing-in ceremony at the Bell Centre during a game, but that it was turned down.

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202 Comments

  1. Jbird says:

    My take on Toronto fans is that their are lots of Leafs fans who we hear from the most.  They are the ones getting aroused from BB.  But there are around a million more rational sports fans in TO who understand what the heck is really going on.  For the most part Torontonians understand they lousy place in sports.  Hardcore Leafs fans do not.    

  2. TomNickle says:

    The biggest problem for them is that Burke never committed to a rebuild.  He was very clear that it isn’t his style and maybe that’s because in his last stop he inherited a team very close to the Cup and had Scott Niedermeyer pick his team before he even sat in the GM’s chair.  

    That team just traded away one of their promising young players in Stalberg for a guy who’s been hidden in a very good lineup in Versteeg.  A lot of people here like his game but I find him highly overrated.

    The good prospects they have left are limited to Kadri, Bozak and Aulie in my opinion.

    You can’t build a team around Kessel, Phaneuf and Schenn.

    He’s going to get a longer leash than JFJ got, but that doesn’t mean he’ll do any better.

  3. Clay4bc says:

    From first-hand experience, I can assure you that St. Petersburg is amazing, though…Kabul – not so much (or so I hear).

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  4. Jbird says:

    Hey! 

    I doubt he is giving up his Russian citizenship but would that be awesome and hilarious!

  5. Bob Barker says:

    Except in the KHL where he would probably make more especially with the low taxes. 

  6. joeybarrie says:

    No one is really watching. Plus if you keep both address’ no one can tell. I have live in the USA for 8 years now, and keep both my Canadian and American papers. You can hold 3 passports, and most countries (other than the USA) allow dual citizenship.

    I could live outside the USA for 50 years and walk back in no problem. Only 1 question asked… “why would you want to live outside the USA???”

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  7. Jbird says:

    You can be a Permanent Resident for your whole life.  I was with a woman yesterday who was explaining to me that she immigrated Portugal in 1970 and that she is only now becoming a citizen so that she can vote in the next election.  Her husband will not become a citizen – his choice.  

    It would imply that Markov wants to live at least part of his post career life in Canada.   

  8. mike g says:

    My neighbor’s grass is way greener than mine though….

    Anyways, I get what you’re point is and it’s actually surprising. I thaught everyone in Laff Land was popping stiffies with Burke, loved Kessel and Komi-Homie, and thaught Kadri was gonna raise the Cup in T.O. next year.

    It’s actually nice to hear that even they understand that he’s building the team the same way he did in Vancouver. They’ll eventually be a good team and compete, but never a great one.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  9. jew4jah says:

    team canada 2014?

  10. PrimeTime says:

    Interesting program at noon yesterday on The Fan while driving in Toronto and listening to callers call in to discuss “The worst GM in Toronto” of their 5 professional sports teams. Burke was only behind Adam Reda (Argo’s) as the fans vote. Nearly all that called in say the Kessel trade will set the club back ‘again’ another 5 years. No one called in to support any of Burke’s moves to date and wonder what the hell he’s done so far to rebuild this team. Moral of the story: Grass is not always greener on the other side.

     

    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock The reason we are Hab fans http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1476

  11. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – i was under the impression that the people living in Quebec don’t consider themselves as being Canadian citizens:-)

    All kidding aside, we should never forget that we are privileged to live in one of the top ten countries in the world.

  12. Storm Man says:

    I would not have Grabovski on that list he is as productive as a rat on skates.

  13. TomNickle says:

    Yep. He didn’t develop properly either.

  14. Ian Cobb says:

    Paul, you could pay me 10 million and I would never live in Kabul or Russia full time for that matter. By the way, that is why he lives in Canada. He can not make that money elsewhere!!!

  15. TomNickle says:

    Without really breaking down the numbers I would definitely give him a long term front loaded deal.

    8 years and $40 million sounds really good to me.

  16. Les-Habitants says:

    I think they’ll give OB every opportunity to get himself a permanent role.  That said, it’ll be interesting to see what happens when Markov does return.  You can never discount injury, especially amongst d-men, but if everyone is playing healthy, who do they sit out?  The easy answer is OB, but if he builds on last season and is given a chance, he has a real chance to stick – even more so because he fills a void in the lineup we’ve had since Komi left.

  17. likehoy says:

    tomas vokoun!

  18. mike g says:

    Would you sign Andrei to a 7-year, 37 million $ deal?

    Year 1,2- 6.5 mill.

    Year 3- 6 mill

    Year 4- 5.5 mill

    Year 5, 6- 4.5 mill

    Year 7- 3.5 mill

    Cap hit of 5.28 mill, which I think is excellent for a player of his calibur. This would mean he’d likely finish his career here, being 39 when this deal expires.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  19. TomNickle says:

    I forgot Markov and O’Byrne.

  20. derfab says:

    Glory Glory les Glorieux!

     

  21. Mark C says:

    Plus he can fight there. Now, I’m not some rah rah fighting fan, but it seems clear that fighting will become part of his role and game. I always thought that going to college and not developing the ability to fight hurt Komisarek. With the flash point being the Lucic fight. 

     

  22. The Teacher says:

    Is this supposed to be funny? A form of protest? A way to kill time?

     

    Please enlighten me, because I haven’t the foggiest.

  23. TomNickle says:

    Incorrect.

    Hainsey, Asham, Streit, Grabovski, Halak, Sergei Kostitsyn, Ribeiro, Rivet, Latendresse, Higgins, Komisarek, Leighton, Danis, Garon, Huet, Theodore, Koivu.

    Plekanec, Price, Subban, Lapierre, Andrei Kostitsyn.

    Everyone of them is a productive NHLer and were developed here at one point or another.

  24. Storm Man says:

    John Daly cards a 66 at the open today in round 1. I hope he is in the mix on Sunday that would be a feel good story.

  25. avatar_58 says:

    Have you seen Desjardins play? Price is miles ahead of him. You want to talk about soft goals and rookie decisions? No, leave Desjardins in Hamilton to mature. It makes me laugh that folks talk of rushing then go “hey let’s rush another!”

  26. The Teacher says:

    My understanding that a long-term injury replacement (LTIR) exemption for the cap only comes into effect after a certain number of games have been played without the player (I think it is 40 or something), although 12 is another number that comes to mind (further proof I am not 100% sure).

     

    However, you can only replace the player with a player that makes the same salary or less. The rub is that when your player comes back, you have to be at your pre-injury cap status, including the new player you may have traded for, acquired etc. So basically, if our cap hit with markov is 59 million, we can only replace him with a player that still keeps us under the cap, UNTIL Markov gets back.

     

    I might not be very clear, but it’s earlyish, so if you need me to clarify anything, just ask.

  27. B37zc says:

    considering that he is injury prone I would not expect more than he is getting now

  28. B37zc says:

    few ounces of plumbum

  29. Malreg says:

    Well, every player took a pay cut with the salary cap.  I don’t remember exactly how much it was though.  Take a look at this article:

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=29284&blogger_id=139

    It lists the top 250 salaries from 2003-2004.  Interesting notes: 7 players making 10 mil or more(I counted Sakic who made 9.88…).  5 more who made $9 million.  6 who made between $8-$9 million.  Some pretty crazy salaries for some of those players.  Jason Allison making $8 mil, Prospal $6.5 mil, Palffy $7 mil, Holik $8.85 mil…

     

  30. mike g says:

    Was this done by choice, or after a certain amount of time working in another country you have to become a citizen?

    I have family who moved down to Alabama 12 years ago. I’m pretty sure they’re American citizens now, because they only return twice a year for 2 weeks. Aren’t there some laws that say if you stay 6 months per year or so in your home country you can retain citizenship?

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  31. TomNickle says:

    Markov is MILES more valuable than Gonchar.

    Ottawa was desperate and overpaid.  You could assume of course that another team in the league would do the same with Markov but overpaying Markov goes into the $7 million per year range.

    His true value is somewhere between $5.5 and $6.5 million annually based on the market and what he brings to the table.

  32. habitual says:

    No discussion on the pillaging of Hamilton.  The farm team is critical to the future of the NHL team that sponsors them.  Even with Boucher and his reputation our prospects have too often not developed as hoped.  Now Brisbois possibly going.  This does not bode well for the Habs for the next several years ….

  33. likehoy says:

    markov and gorges weren’t very good together last year.

    the problem is that gorges fancies himself a contributor by jumping into the play and trying to pinch in from the point…that cramps markov’s style because HE needs to do that…gorges is better with gill.

  34. Storm Man says:

    Pierre just think if you had some meat in your diet you would be a beast also.

  35. SeriousFan09 says:

    Speaking as someone who watched Desjardins play in Hamilton, I know that isn’t happening. The guy is not at the NHL level yet, bad to terrible puckhandling and skating issues. Focus issues have also been levelled at him.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  36. Malreg says:

    The Hunters rarely miss out on a prospect, and I would love to see Tinordi spend a year there.

  37. Storm Man says:

    What is the tax rate like?

  38. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hey, I think this is my first triple post ever. Time for a drink…

  39. bigjames says:

    not so sure about that… you should speak to people who have lived in kabul!

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ah, double.

  41. HabFanSince72 says:

    You pay me $5.75M/year and Kabul will seem pretty wonderful.

     

  42. punkster says:

    Good to chat with you Clay. Any time.

    Now, as to your Miles comment. Go F— yourself ;)

    FREE TIMO!

  43. Clay4bc says:

    Just to be clear…not a fan of the name calling either…notice I had to qualify that with a footbal comment – a sport I love to play, but find it difficult to watch.

    And Miles Davis blows! ;) (joke, but rant away!)

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  44. derfab says:

    We can only hope someone is dumb enough to sign his sexiness and we get a couple of hockey players to make whatever stiff we put in nets look like a star.

    character is derfab destiny.

  45. Pierre Gauthier says:

    I cant see Markov demanding much more then Gonchar. Markov could have demanded much more before he signed his laste extension and chose not to. I look at a long term contract with a lower cap hit for him to end his career in Montreal. He doesnt want to leave, he has already said this before. This is icing on the cake I would say.

    Still not captain Material though, although him calling out Carey Price seemed to be the spark the kid needed to grow up. So maybe im wrong!

  46. punkster says:

    I enjoy civil discussions from which I can learn something. I also like light-hearted banter and joking around. I abhor chats with people who resort to name calling, trashing and those with a superiority complex (not to be confused with egos as everyone exhibits a certain amount in varying degrees). And I love jazz. So if you want to get to me just trash Miles Davis and I’ll be sure to go off on a rant!

    Edit: Oh, and I love puppy dogs and walks in the rain.

    FREE TIMO!

  47. Clay4bc says:

    It would be great to lock him up…but the smart move now is to see how he rebounds from this latest injury first. He’s not getting any younger, and 2 major injuries in one season is a lot to come back from. I hope he can do it seamlessly…

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  48. Ian Cobb says:

    He had better sign soon or he will find himself elsewhere in a hurry. He is a maturing young kid in the game. Once he can prove that he is ready to carry the load, then the big contract, not before. To many hungry goal tenders out there that are ready to play for the front of their jersey.

  49. Pierre Gauthier says:

    Markov plays his best when he has a defensive partner. He and Gorges were an awesome combo when Komisarek was injured in 08-09. O’Byrne could be a good match as well, if he plays like he did at the start of last season. This guy was a beast, he fought, hit and played with some Jam. Then got injured, and things were slow from there on.

  50. derfab says:

    Given that we were spoiled by a series of truly great warrior defenceman, culminating in the big three, and that we traded away our only other quasi-stud defenceman of the last 20 years (Desjardins) in the Recchi deal, you have a point.

    The fact of the matter is that it is the toughest position to play and there aren`t very many great ones. You are right that a dose of toughness would improve his game but Markov is still pretty good.

    character is derfab destiny.

  51. Mattyleg says:

    Ooh! Inflammatory!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  52. Mattyleg says:

    I don’t really understand why this matters one iota. I’ve never understood WHY Betty finds it so goddamn important to sell hockey to the Yanks. Why is it necessary?? We have plenty of players and cities that want action, and so do many other countries around the world. The people who want to support hockey will support hockey, the people who want to play will play.

    It has never bothered me one bit that College Basketball is more popular in many states than the NHL. Much like it has never bothered me that people in Ireland watch Hurling in droves, and could never name a single hockey player. Not even Wayne Gretzky. None of this makes any impact on my interest in hockey. Let soccer be more popular. Who cares?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  53. Ian Cobb says:

    Another quality person realizing how wonderful life is living in Quebec as a Canadian citizen!

  54. Clay4bc says:

    yeah, but you don’t agree with anyone’s goalie views – publicly, that is. Always the diplomat, you – and I respect you for that.

    It’s just not me to keep quiet on what I feel strongly about.

    *edit* Agree it’s only a game with no bearing on the real world, though…but HIO has made me passionate about hockey again, after so many years overseas with no one to discuss hockey with. And even a heated disagreement about hockey that results in petty name-calling still beats talking about football (soccer to you North-Americans), no matter how civil the debate.

    __________________________

    “This has to be the mother of all brain-dead decisions.” Red Fisher regarding the Halak trade.

  55. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Markov is currently making $5.75m/yr. Realistically, how much of a raise could he expect? I would like to see him sign a long-term contract – say 5 yrs @ $6m/yr.

  56. Mattyleg says:

    Neither do I. God, what a dog-and-pony show that would’ve been.

    Thank Vishnu the CH is classier than that.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  57. Mark C says:

    Seems that Hunter will be putting on the full-court press for Tinordi to play in London this season.

    http://www.lfpress.com/sports/hockey/2010/07/14/14714851.html

  58. Curtoph says:

    I bet you Markov is VERY happy we didn’t sign MAB as well!!!

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    See how he adapts to the injuries, even if he loses some of his speed he still has the best on-ice awareness and can read the game better than anyone on the team. His hands are still fine and his ability to move the puck is a big part of his game. He’ll have the summer to recover rather than lose half the season this time so he should be able to come back with better conditioning as well.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  60. punkster says:

    I don’t agree with your goalie views either ;)

    So what, it’s only a blog, about a game, with no bearing on the real world. But I do get a kick out of the personalities here. Makes for some amusing moments. Timo is one of those for sure.

    FREE TIMO!

  61. synth says:

    I would not be one bit surprised if Desjardin takes CP’s spot this year.

     

    synthpro

     

  62. nickster13 says:

    hey! henry is a class act and one of the great players of our generation, sure you may come back to the hand-ball incident, but he is only human and wants to win, and even admitted after that he wishes he could go back to play it fairly, as opposed to the other french players who kept mum.

  63. G-Man says:

    Typo- Should have been Desharnais.


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