Man the lifeboats! The Canadiens are winless!!


Dave Stubbs: In 12 NHL season-openers between the Canadiens and Maple Leafs dating back nine decades of NHL hockey, Montreal had never been shut out by Toronto.

May we introduce you to unlucky 13?

Stubbs column

Pat Hickey game story and quotes from the room

Stubbs on Habs defenceman Raphael Diaz

Betts debut delayed

Marc de Foy on special teams

• Mike Boone on new radio guy Bobby Dollas

Jeff Blair and Bruce Dowbiggin on Don Cherry


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    • mooseiamcdn says:

      i have contemplated for awhile now, what is wrong with montreal so far this season. yes, Coach Jack led our team the last two seasons to the playoffs, but now this year with the departure of Kirk Muller, the team does not look like a solidified unit.
      Are we lacking a true leader? Does Coach Jack need to be replaced?
      Take a read at my two recent articles and let me know what you think:
      Habs lack a true leader:
      Coach Martin on a short leash:

      Dean Eastman

      Until next time, play every game as if it is your last one…

  2. RiverviewCanadien says:

  3. habstrinifan says:

    Question asked and answered. Desharnis is not a top six forward and he is not a checker or grit player. Pat him on the back and thank him for his services and release or trade him or demote him.. even if we lose him to waivers.

    Question asked and answered. Plekanec, as I stated sometime last year, is not the type of forward who should be on th epoint on a power play. Habs have NO forward who fits that role.

    Only 1 game true, but not a hasty conclusion.. when you truly analyse these two players.

    It is a sad fact, HABS have no room for a player like Desharnis when you take into consideration their needs and their roster. And I give DD lots of kudos for his accomplishement thus far.

    Next two questions to be asked… Eller and Yemelin. Both should take a little longer.

  4. Habsrule1 says:

    Everyone RELAX. The Habs lost the 1st game last year too. It’s a long season and they’ll get much better.

    The 2 Stanley Cup finalists also lost game 1.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      Im less frustrated with the habs and more with JM, the PP was utter shit, and its not the players, its the players on the ice.

      Add to that the Too Many Men penalty which is a JM trademark.

  5. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Yikes. One loss and the commentariat GMs and coaches, with their vast experience, are firing Martin and Gauthier and having Price jump ship. No wonder some say we have the worst fans. I don’t visit other team’s sites but if this thread is any indication of hockey intelligence, this team is indeed doomed. Um … chill.

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      The sites are all the same I believe from my browsing them over the years. I have been a frequent browser here. There are some very good posters blended in with some really passionate and impatient posters. It’s life I guess. We (most of us anyhow ) have a common desire for Montreal to meet our expectations. Sometimes the expectations are too high to be met. Personally I believe this team is a good one and will be there when the dust settles in the spring. Will they win the Stanley Cup….not likely but they are headed to the upside.

  6. --Habs-- says:

    If Cherry wouldn’t have hockey in his life I could easily see him picking veggies in Alabama instead of all the illegal immigrants because that’s his limit of intelligence. The illegals do it because that’s all they’re allowed to do while Donny would do it cause that all he could do. Like fighting I think its time for Don to retire being he can’t remember what he’s talking about in the same sentence and train of though. He talks about Nilan then he turns around and runs videos of missed hits and tries to tell us how that’s the new way of hitting. NO Don they just missed their hits.

    • HabsFan1111 says:

      I honestly felt a little bad for Cherry. He began by going through his videos of people missing hits ‘on purpose’ to avoid suspensions, then went on to Stevens’ ‘beautiful’ career ending, brain trauma inducing hit reel that we should ‘enjoy watching cause they won’t happen anymore’. It is safe to say he is officially 100% off his rocker (as opposed to the 98% he displayed last year). He talks about hypocrites, yet he spends time putting stop signs on the back of helmets while salivating at Stevens piledriving unsuspecting opponents into the ice?!? MAKE UP YOUR MIND DON, if you even have control over it anymore …

  7. Lafrich says:

    Gentlemen. How can you properly assess this team with an N=1? No need for panic. Let’s see what happens over 10-15 games. This team has barely played together – and don’t even mention the preseason, which saw about 8 regulars per game. In fact, that may be something to look at in the future – using the preseason to get ready for the season!

  8. HabinBurlington says:

    Those that were disgusted by Cherry and his comments last may be interested in hearing Chris Nilan and Stu Grimson and how they view Don. Attached is link to the media.

  9. bleedhabs81 says:

    The Negatives – too many to list unfortunately.

    One I will comment on is Pleks on the Point on the PP. It didn’t work last year… why would it work this year? He is much more effective when he can skate freely through the zone and set plays up, not tied to the blue line… he is just not that player.

    The Positives
    Diaz and Desharnais (in my opinion)… they looked like they wanted to win… which is more than I can say for everyone else. I like how smart Diaz was with (or near) the puck and I like how I saw DD going to the net every chance he got (too bad he isn’t 6’4″)

    Price – Easily made the hardest saves of the night between the two goalies. Yes, Reimer got the shut-out, but is wasn’t like he made any brilliant saves. Good positioning and lots of shots into his chest. The habs handed that one to him.

    Luke Schenn – he showed us that Max is not going to stop skating and turn the puck over if threatened by an oncoming big hit. Luckily, he just missed.

    • --Habs-- says:

      If Cherry wouldn’t have hockey in his life I could easily see him picking veggies in Alabama instead of all the illegal immigrants because that’s his limit of intelligence. The illegals do it because that’s all they’re allowed to do while Donny would do it cause that all he could do. Like fighting I think its time for Don to retire being he can’t remember what he’s talking about in the same sentence and train of though. He talks about Nilan then he turns around and runs videos of missed hits and tries to tell us how that’s the new way of hitting. NO Don they just missed their hits.

  10. DEANDALLEY says:

    Carey Price will be wasting his time resigning in Montreal.
    Montreal does not deserve a player of Price’s talent.

    Don’t waste your time in Montreal Carey. Get the PUCK out this summer!

    “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

    • AH says:

      Dean, here’s a scary thought for you…will Price want to resign here? If he goes through this season getting constantly roughed up and no scoring support will he re-sign?, I seriously doubt it. How many teams do you think are licking their chops waiting for a crack at him? If the Habs have another struggling mediocre year again this year, I’ll be shocked if he re-signs with the Habs. Pk will though, no one wants a disrespectful punk on their team. LOL!

      • slamtherimtim says:

        its not just him resigning somewhere else , i think he is still a rfa , which would cost a team a lot of picks to sign him , same reason , no one attemted drew doughty , the price of picks is too high for one player

    • slamtherimtim says:

      i think it is managment who does not deserve him .we as fans have been waiting a long time for some good young players, and we do support them its about being in montreal , and dealing with it , , its the coach and manager who are not giving them the proper support , PK and Price should never leave , like toews and Kane , perry and getlaf, carter and nash,

    • Habsrule1 says:

      “There’s nowhere I’d rather be than this locker room” – Carey Price

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  11. DEANDALLEY says:

    I never read nor watched the post game comments. I had already thrown up enough.

    These players know what to do. PUCKING DOT IT !

    Martin is an IDIOT & needs to go!

    “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

    • RobertAlanFord says:

      Agreed that Martin needs to go. I dont mind defensive systems but when you have roughly 28 million spread out over your top two lines on offensive players that you brought in mostly through free agency……. seems like a waste of a lot of dough.

      “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”, Hunter S. Thompson.

  12. RobertAlanFord says:

    Soooooo…… any bets on how long we’ll be seeing that pp before its scratched?

    An issue I’ve had for a while with JM’s strategy is having his players dump the puck come hell or high water on a line change if they’re past the center line. I’ve always considered this as a turnover. As long as you have the puck, the other guy doesn’t, right? With roughly 7:30 remaining in the first last night, Cammalleri had the puck just over the blue line with enough room for a short advance – dance – snap it. If anyone can make a wrister or quick snap count from the high slot its him (when he’s not having his usual difficulties receiving a pass). Instead, because they were changing, he dumped it to the corner and did a 180 straight to the bench. Now TO has possession and advancing while we’re scrambling to get in position on the d. I’ve seen this a couple times a game for a few years now and its driving me up the wall. I cant give a specific game on a specific date but this has cost us a goal a few times.

    “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”, Hunter S. Thompson.

    • 123456 says:

      agree with your frustration but it’s “the system”. if a player does carry the puck in on a line change he has nearly 0% chance to score… usually it’ sa 1 on 2 or whatever. if that player then loses said puck he’s toast and will not be part of the defense getting back (too tired) but also you can’t make a change then after the turnover… so it’s the “SAFE” play.
      in a perfect world this player crosses the blue line and establishes a little space to pass the puck off to a fresh forward and then heads to the bench – but again if that happens then there are only 2 forwards in the Ozone for a period of time.

      • RobertAlanFord says:

        Then why not send it back to fresh players in the neutral or even defensive zones? The point is maintaining possession during the change and not giving it away and if you have that particular chance, why not take it. A shot on net is a shot on net…… anything can happen. 1. You miss, it was going there anyways. 2. You score, NICE! 3. The goalie catches it in his glove and you get a whistle, bonus.

        The worst that could happen is a bad turnover but the odds right now are 3-1 in favour of the shot. He doesn’t have to stick around and make sure it goes in or wait for a rebound, just snap it and get to the bench. He gets 6 million dollars a year so figuratively it shouldn’t be much more difficult that dumping it for him.

        “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”, Hunter S. Thompson.

      • swannyboy says:

        The only good thing to come out with a slow start to the season is they fire the head coach with one the plays a better system,just look at the sucessful teams in the the league,it’s not rocket science.

  13. RGM says:

    Letter sent to CBC re Coach’s Corner…

    tl;dr version: Cherry is an idiot and making you look like idiots.

    I am writing to you today, as I have on a handful of occasions in the past, regarding the latest Coach’s Corner segment featuring the failed Boston Bruins coach from the 1970’s. Let me state upfront that I have not watched a single second of this anachronism’s diatribes since he declared that Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty essentially brought it on himself when he had his neck broken by Boston Bruins defenceman Zdeno Chara. I wrote you in protest then, and it clearly had little impact, as the walking advertisement for terrible furniture still enjoys 7 minutes per week of airtime on Canada’s national broadcaster. I nonetheless am compelled to write and complain about his latest rant because it has a large effect on Canadians from coast to coast to coast. I hope that this effort will produce better results.

    By permitting a technicolour nightmare to bloviate on a weekly basis about the good old days, when hockey players routinely brain damaged other players with violent hits to the head, the CBC is doing itself a great disservice. Your most prominent and loud-speaking mouthpiece puts the CBC in the position of being at odds with well-reasoned, thoughtful, and articulate people such as Ken Dryden that want change in the great game to improve player safety. Men such as Dryden realize that the game is fast and as such inherently dangerous, but they speak of a game in which players are “head smart” and respectful enough of one another that they will not deliberately attempt to injure other players. Imagine the feelings of a great player such as Paul Kariya when he sees your network allowing a man to glorify his injuries as some wonderful thing to be lamented by the new rules and policies being enforced by Brendan Shanahan.

    There was a considerable amount of talk this past summer about how brain injuries—brought on by fighting or headshots—have affected not only the livelihoods but the lifestyles of those who have suffered long-term traumatic effects. The loss of good young men such as Derek Boogaard and Wade Belak has been a wake-up call for many people about the importance of mental health. Yet a mere three days before World Mental Health Week, a raving Christmas tree denigrated three former players who have spoken out about the importance of mental health, calling them “disgusting” and “pukes” and saying “they should be ashamed of themselves” for their efforts to raise awareness of a global problem that claims the lives of at least ten people per day in Canada. Studies into post-concussion issues highlight the trauma and long-term negative effects of sustaining repeated blows to the head, and note that athletes with CTE are prone to depression. Meanwhile, the CBC allows someone to call out people who are bringing these problems to light as “hypocrites” and a “bunch of pukes.”

    This is the situation in which CBC finds itself: the hockey world is calling for change and awareness of head injuries, yet your reputation is being severely tarnished by allowing a monosyllabic relic of a bygone era to speak freely without a counterpoint. This is not a debate about “tough Canadian hockey” or “North American grit” – it is a serious discussion about how to ensure people who play hockey can have a normal and healthy quality of life long after they have stopped playing the game. The greatest hockey player in the game today has not played a single second of hockey since January and his return is still up in the air. Many other very good players have had their careers ended prematurely. This past summer we have lost the lives of good young men because of problems they have endured as a consequence of playing a game that we as Canadians all love. Having someone so callous and out of touch with this reality speaking on behalf of the CBC makes your organization a part of the problem. There are so many intelligent and thoughtful people affiliated with CBC’s hockey division; people like Elliot Friedman are the future of the company. Why not make the future now? Why do you cling to a man that has not had a positive effect on the game since he forgot how to count to five at a crucial time of a hockey game in 1979 as your spokesman and ratings draw? Why be on the wrong side of history?

    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

  14. slamtherimtim says:

    markov gone, his replacement gone , 7 million wasted , plus gomer , 14 million , alone , wheres the WIZ , at least we know when he will be playing, now we sign another D i never even heard of ,

    its not even fair to get rid of PG now , who ever replaces him is in trouble, bring bob back , and get rid of PG , he is only there because of that loser Bovin needed a french guy , fix this mistake Mr Molson


    • SBAH says:

      they should have kept Wiz 🙁

    • nellis13 says:

      Joe Callahan? we’ve now offically cornered the maket on shitty defencemen. at least he’s over 200lbs.

    • RGM says:

      It’s funny that people actually think the team had a chance of re-signing Wisniewski. He was looking for a big paycheque and a long-term deal, two things that the Habs are generally not known for doling out. I don’t blame him – when you’re a journeyman after only 5 years in the League, long-term job and financial security is highly desirable. But he was almost certainly never going to be in the future plans of the club.

      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

    • RobertAlanFord says:

      Yup, letting Wiz go was a HUGE mistake. I was singing that song since June.

      And honestly guys…………. I don’t think Markov’s knee will ever be 100% again and thats putting it lightly.

      “When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”, Hunter S. Thompson.

  15. Chris F says:

    That was brutal to watch after the first.
    Sickening to listen to Cherry after the first, where the Canadiens dominated, “The worst period of hockey ever”, stated Cherry. Then goes on to show hits that resulted in significant injuries and complained we would never see hits like this again. Then went on a rant, backed up by the puppet Ron about fighters in hockey and the lack of relation to their suicide.
    He’s completely lost it, and it’s absolutely deplorable how CBC can air these debacles having their announcers cheering for one team over the other.
    The camera action on Burke after the game has become a ritual, and having the CBC hire all ex leafs and Bruins makes it unwatchable. RDS for some reason last night in my area was down.
    To the game: Desharnais was the best player for the Habs. PK caused both goals. And how can one bad goal sink a team?
    I would be interested to hear the conversation in the dressing room between periods. This team all but gave up after falling behind 1-0. That was the easiest shut-out Reimer will ever collect. He didn’t earn it, what a joke.
    I have been calling for more toughness for years, not goons, not goons, not goons, but size and toughness. Year after year, our team is decimated by injuries, I’m not sure if being a little bigger and stronger might help since it is a contact sport.
    Anyway, my lunch is over, and last night was depressing. I’m not lost on the fact it’s only one game, but the leafs are brutal. And the way our team played for forty minutes was sad, very sad.
    I’m sure they will be better in winterpeg. But…..the jets are a much better team than those sad sack leafs.
    At least Price played well.

    • ManApart says:

      Reimer didn’t earn his shutout? He played great in stopping all 32 shots he faced helping his team win a game where he only got 2 goals of support. He certainly did earn that shutout and win.

      Also, the Leafs are not nearly as bad as many people think. As I said a few days ago, their D is probably better than the Habs, their offense doesn’t have as much depth as the Habs, but is a lot closer than you think. They have Grabs, Kulemin, Kessel, Connolly, Lupul, MacArthur and Lombardi who make up a very respectable core. And at least for last night, they had a goalie in Reimer who outplayed Price. I think they will definately be in the playoff hunt for the last few spots and Montreal will have to watch out because that is what they will be fighting for as well..

  16. SBAH says:

    Habs just signed Defenseman Joe Callahan.

  17. Rainrocket16 says:

    Cole looked fast and eager…liked what I saw..but then he wasn’t used when needed most. JM might want to start working on his resume if this season doesn’t pan out. I think we can be strong but we are doing the same thing last year, coming close to scoring and then getting owned right after we don’t…

  18. HabinBurlington says:

    Stu Grimson on the Fan590 in Toronto right now, comparing Don Cherry to a wreck on the highway, I will provide link when interview is over. Brilliant so far.

  19. Danno says:

    Jacques Martin sucks. We’re too small. We’ve got no defense and the sky is falling.

    Did I miss anything?

    It’s an 82-game season.



    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

    • shiram says:

      Pop gun offence, weak faceoffs skills, Gomez, PG is a peaceful vegan, Budaj is the worst nhl goalie, Gomez and you should have ti covered.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • Mikey_39 says:

      This isn’t just about last night. We have a great team on paper, but the team can only be as good as the coach allows them to be. What world am I living in where a coach will play Darche (don’t get me wrong I like the player) more on the power play than Cole?

      Luckily we signed this random guy now so JM can continue not to play a promising big physical defenseman. I mean cmon, we’re playing the leafs, you know they’re going to be extremely physical. Wouldn’t you think it’s in the teams best interest to have your most physical players in the lineup? Wait till Emelin goes back to Russia. And rightfully so!

  20. Tony McLean says:

    Diaz, Gorges, Weber and Spacek looked like poodles in the ring with pit bulls. *Really* tired of that. There won’t be any relief until Gandhi Gauthier and Mohandas Martin are gone.
    “The point is that Fergie wasn’t, and didn’t have to be, a non stop brawler. His hard earned reputation preceded him, and he could keep the opposition in line without spending all night in the penalty box.” – Jean Beliveau

  21. GoGioGo says:

    Well, at least one thing is clear after that joke of a game. Some things are in fact PK’s fault.

    Could someone tell him the season has started ? And while we’re talking about unlucky 13… sophomore jinx anyone ? I sure hope not, but what I saw yesterday night wasn’t pretty to say the least.

    “That’s it, we’re doomed! The season is over!” -Most people on this site, each time the opponent scores. Almost everyone in town when they take the lead.

  22. slamtherimtim says:

    sounded to me like JM was blaming the players for not finishing the plays , and not himself for his stupid line combo’s , if he put Cole on the third line he should have kept him there , just proves he made another mistake in his lineup, i would like to see one game where the lines stay the same for the entire game, regaurdless of what he wants them to be , there is no 20 games for the team to gel , thats what the preseason was for but JM wanted to play player who had no chance in making the team , i will give JM 4 more games before i give p on him , its a new season not a new career , things proven to work last year should not change just because its a new season , most of these are the same players


  23. habsbeens says:

    Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong. – Oscar Wilde

  24. J_P says:

    – Complete lack of instensity from the habs last night for opening night. They played in the first period but actually did nothing for the last 40 minutes.

    – As usual, the habs made the opposition goalies life easy. Zero driving to the net, zero players standing in front of the net, and complete perimeter play.

    – After months of anticipation for the season to start, I was utterly disappointed in being reminded how boring these Jacques Martin coached habs are to watch.

    A loss in the first game is no big deal when you get the sense your team gave a solid effort, but I did not see a solid effort last night at all.

  25. slychard says:

    WhTs up with White, any word on when he’ll be ready?

  26. Mikey_39 says:

    I sincerely hope that wen Eller and Betts are back, that Moen is the one that gets scratched because I’m so tired of watching such a useless player take up a spot in the line up. He brings absolutely nothing to the table. He’s not offensive, and for a big fourth liner, he doesn’t seem to bring anything physical to the team. I don’t think I saw him throw one check out there.

    Also, those of you who were bored by last night’s game shouldn’t really be surprised. This is the kind of hockey we’ve been accustomed to thanks to JM. I can’t remember ever despising the way a guy coaches this much. Also props to him on the decision to sit (yet again) that big physical defensive defenseman that this team desperately needs.

  27. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Well that sucked. That said, it’s obvious that Boston and
    Montreal will finish out of the playoffs and the Leafs can plan the parade.

  28. habsnyc says:

    If the $18 million man starts his career with 14 minutes on the third line, how much ice time are they going to give him at the end of his contract? How do you play Desharnais more minutes than Cole?

    • shiram says:

      Not like his play warranted top line minutes last night.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

      • GoGioGo says:

        Not like anyone’s play deserved top line minutes anyway… Still, I’m slowly having enough of JM’s weird line combos. If things don’t get better soon, he might be gone before Christmas.

        “That’s it, we’re doomed! The season is over!” -Most people on this site, each time the opponent scores. Almost everyone in town when they take the lead.

        • habsnyc says:

          The team is coached and managed in a way that is counter intuitive to me. If they contend, I am very impressed. If they muddle about, it is not unexpected.

          I don’t care about individual wins or losses, I care about adidng more core talent and the rate at which the core talent improves. I define core talent as players with an above average ceiling who are on a path to reach their ceiling. In my opinion, management has failed to identify sufficient core talent to contend. Management has a history of clogging the pathways for the core talent to reach their ceiling.

          If Pax, Subban, Gorges and Price all improve, I do not care if the team makes the playoffs. If they make the playoffs but those players underperform, then the team is no closer to contending.

      • sane hockey fan says:

        Maybe not, but you don’t play a guy with 180 NHL goals and 4 20 goal seasons less than a second year player with 8 goals in his entire career!

        • shiram says:

          I take it you are not familiar with Jacques Martin?

          If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • sane hockey fan says:

            Uhh yeah I am, but you replied to OPs comment saying that Cole didnt deserve to play top line minutes, hence you agree with JM playing him 14 miuntes…

          • shiram says:

            Last night Cole did not deserve top line minutes based on his play.
            He could have started with Pleks, but due to JM’s style he played with DD.
            I guess Cole did not impress on his minute of PP time, and he is not good enough on D for PK time.
            Bah who knows, or cares… bring on the Jets, and hopefully a more energetic game.

            If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • Tony McLean says:

      And you can see how Mohandas Martin’s brilliant game plan worked out.

      “The point is that Fergie wasn’t, and didn’t have to be, a non stop brawler. His hard earned reputation preceded him, and he could keep the opposition in line without spending all night in the penalty box.” – Jean Beliveau

  29. Habsrule1 says:

    While I did not expect this at all, remember that they started basically the same way last season.

    I think the Habs like toying with the leafs’ and their fans’ emotions….getting their hopes up that they’ll have a good season.

    On to the next game and some wins!

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  30. The Dude says:

    The results sucked last night but the posters were good to each other on HIO, nice!

    • punkster says:

      That won’t last any longer than a JM line up.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Thats a good point Dude, I know I often don’t agree with your points of view, I do on occasion, but we are all Hab Fans (I hope so, aside from the obvious Bruin fans that show on occasion) and its okay to disagree with each other without reverting to name calling etc…


  31. sims says:

    this is how i see it….

    for at least a year i have been watching this team make so many low percentage passes (especially on the pp). quit working the puck low and throwing it out front. that only works 1 out of 20-50 times. if you’re going to work the puck low in the corner or behind the net…drive to the net! dont flip it out front and hope for the best. if this doesnt work then send it to the point on the right side, a quick pass to pk on the left for a huge one-timer. if its the other side replace pk with cammy for the shot. there is too much screwing around with the puck. get some shots! if theres no play at the point then drive to the net from the corner….a la 67…he scored a few pp beauties this way before the chara incident.

    on the other hand, quit the crossing of the blueline followed by a huge windup that u can see from a mile away that will get blocked or a simple stick in front of (pleks is the worst for this as is gio). a 75% speed shot on net is much better than a 110% boom that gets blocked or deflected w ease.

    more shots and less low percentage passing please.

  32. slychard says:

    I hope JM plays Emelin, and does’t bench him when making mistakes. That said I hope Emelin comes in his first NHL game like he did in his first scrimmage when he hit Max and everything that moved and looked like the gritty D-man prospect he was long touted to be. I also hope he doesn’t fade in the stretch as he seems to have. But this last point I beleive is perpetuated by JM’s lack of trust and limiting his playing time during the pre-season. Put him in, give him a chance, and see where the chips may fall. At this point we need a big D-man and he’s the one.

    • --Habs-- says:

      Agree fully! Defensively he wasn’t worse than anyone else in pre-season. Diaz last night wasn’t exactly stellar from my point of view and yes the Habs can use a big D-man in the lineup. Matter of fact his first pass breaking the zone is very good compared to regulars. I saw some passes he made that were exceptional considering the situation. Not sure what Martin is thinking but get him into the lineup with simple instructions! Don’t chase a hit and make anyone wanting the puck in our zone pay for his effort.

  33. Vladdy Mondavi says:

    I didn’t have the pleasure of watching the whole game, but from the segments I did watch, it seems to me the team had a wonderfully relaxing sojourn in Collingwood.

    They appeared to lack drive (especially to the net). A little too “ho-hum” for my liking, especially for a season-opener.

    It frustrates me to no end to see the Habs go on odd man rushes and end up taking high angle / low percentage shots.

    Let’s hope for a better performance and outcome Sunday night in front of what’s surely going to be a jacked-up Winnipeg crowd.

  34. Habitoban says:

    The CH is not a talisman that turns hockey players into NHL stars. On September 14th I worried as follows: “I hate to be a nattering nabob of negativism, but I am a little apprehensive about the state of the team. Out of the current 20 man roster we have:
    4 AHL players who have yet to play a full season the NHL;
    4 players coming off surgery – 1 of whom (Markov) continues to skate with the injured group (yikes!);
    1 top six veteran who is coming off the worst year of his career; and our major prospect having never played a game in the NHL. There I’ve said it.” Well, I’m a little more worried after last night’s dreadful, spiritless performance.

  35. 24moreCups says:

    Again this year it seems when they are scored on first they lose all their energy.

  36. shiram says:

    Extremely boring game last night.
    The Leafs we’re dirty most of the night, but they neither team really dominated.
    Cole looked very meak out there, he looked more physically intimidated than Cammy or Gio, that was not looking good for him.

    If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

  37. doublerr says:

    I have not read a single comment yet but I watched the game with 5 leaf fans who were laughing at the Habs all night. They are the softess team in the league again this year. Price got ran over twice and their little forwards were pushed around in front of the net all night. The tree hugging fans and mgmt dont get it, you have to fight fire with fire. The defence looks scared. There was no body checking by anyone. You dont have to have a bunch of goons but you need players with size and grit. We pick up Betts and he has size but had 8 pims in 72 games last year! a back up goalie ususally has more. A lot of people think skill will overcome toughness but you need a combination of both and thats why the stinking bruins won last year. There is nothing wrong having small skilled players like Cammi, Gionta and Pleks but u need some tougher guys around them especially on defence. Diaz was getting pounded all night, he has some skill but we need some toughness. The other coach, no matter who it is, will tell his players to run the goalie because there is no fear of payback, they dont even care if they get a penalty it’s worth it. This whole “we are better then them because we just play hockey” attitude isn’t going to work.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      We need our bigger players to play big, MaxPac, Cole, Moen, Darch, PK, Gill.

      We need to get Emelin in our lineup along with a healthy Eller, White and Betts.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        the one that bugs me is Moen. He is a grinder energy player and is not worth 1.5 mill a season. The guy is crap but JM loves him and has him on the ice in the final minute when you are down. The guy has stone hands.

        I would love to see him replaced by a younger version who actually plays physical and grinds every shift.

        The leafs physically dominated this squad for 2 of the 3 periods

        • shiram says:

          To be fair Moen is not exactly old, even in NHL standard.
          But yea, he should only be on the ice on the Pk or five on five, not in crucial last minutes..

          If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I just don’t find him to be a physical rugged forward. Maybe I have the wrong impression of what he is supposed to be. Either way I think he is a waste of a roster space.

          • shiram says:

            Whole team looked meak last night, except the smaller guys.

            If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I think Moen needs to be motivated by his linemates (not saying this is right, just my perception) and I am hopeful when lined up with Betts and White we will see a true energy banging 4th line. Also Enqvist is terrible, he can’t provide any speed up the middle making for a proper dump and chase allowing the wingers to crash the Dmen of the opposition. The timing was off to even attempt that simple concept.

            If a player (Moen) doesn’t get inspired watching White skate his ass off and hit everything that moves, then he is lost.

  38. slychard says:

    Reading the Cherry story brings me to last nights game when he came on. My friends wife, Atlanta school teacher and NOT a hockey fan, saw Cherry’s coat and said. ‘oh my god look at his coat! Is it Christmas? This is a Christmas coat.’ At which point my friend and I chuckled and both said. ‘No he’s just one of many idiots from the CBC.’ Carry on Cherry, carry on!

  39. joshua94k says:

    It was an ugly game, but its only one game. It happens to the best of them. The 1974-75 Canadiens had a hall of fame line-up (Lafleur, Dryden, Savard, Robinson, Gainey, Richard, Lapointe, Leamire, Cournoyer etc) and finished with 113 pts. But they were winless in their first four games losing to lowly teams such as the Kings, Blues and Islanders twice.

    One can only imagine the radio shows blaming Pollock for signing Dryden to a big contract after he sat out the year. What about Lafleur who is a bust as a 1st draft pick. What kind of draft pick is Gainey who can’t shoot? Savard is too slow, he should retire. Peter Mahavolich is a floater….

    Hopefully GMs don’t listen to radio shows or read blogs. The current edition of the Habs will be just fine.

    • habsnyc says:

      The Kings were a pretty good team back in 74-75 and spent a while in first place in the Norris ahead of Montreal. They ended up with 105 points good for fourth in the league. They made the cover of Sports Illustrated in February, 1975. Tying them was no shame. Vachon was way better than Dryden that season. The Isles ended up losing in the semi-finals just like the Canadiens.

      The complaints were not about offense. Montreal blew away the league in goal scoring. The team lost Lapperiere on defense and Dryden was a little rusty.

  40. sauster says:

    Anybody know what the deal is with Campoli?
    Disappointing performance by the Habs last night who just didn’t seem ready to start the season against a more focused, energized Leafs team.
    Recalling hockey records daily and taking an in-depth look at what they mean for the game of hockey.

  41. HabinBurlington says:

    Interesting to note that the airwaves in Toronto this morning are far more abuzz about Don Cherry than the Leafs Victory.

    Edit: Nilan has already been on the Fan590 and they have Grimson coming on shortly.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I didn’t agree with Don Cherry at all last night. Sounded like an idiot

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        I seriously wonder if there is something wrong with Cherry. Certain dementias simply intensify the person’s life long personality and concentrate it. I no longer get angry at the man but feel sorry for him. And a lot of the anti-Cherry sentiment in the media feels more like “bear baiting” than argument between idealogues.

        Personally, I think CBC has done a great disservice to a guy who could have quietly faded away to be remembered as colourful and having had some good advice to kids and regarding equipment. Instead, Cherry is going to go down like mad dog. I suppose he has to take some responsibility for himself but, really, how capable is he?

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I think he is senile to be honest. He is no spring chicken and you as we all get older we become more opinionated and change is not something easily accepted.

          His comments showed last night that he is a dino and needs to be off the air. The two missed hits last night were just that…missed hits

    • avatar_58 says:

      He fell way off the deep end last night.

  42. Stuck_in_To. says:

    I watched the first period and had that “can’t score” bad feeling we’ve all had to live with for some time now. But when the “other” Habs team came out in the second period, revisiting last years Dr.Jekyl and Mr.Hyde shennanigans, I turned my television off. There are too many returnees from last year for the team to turn in such a peformance. Too many bonafide NHL players too. The coach and his system have been in place long enough. You expect the National Junior team to be all over the place, not your NHL team. Worst of all, I live in Toronto and have 5 contractors working in my house so this morning I have to deal with 5 gloating Leafs fans.

    • SnowManHabs85 says:

      I had the same feeling, and as soon as the extra attacker was on the ice, I just couldn’t watch it when I saw Moen on the ice and DD. Don’t get me wrong, I like DD but he looked like a mess last night. Max Pac worst game too, turnover after another..

      If the Sunday’s game the same, I’m gonna be a lil worried about our Habs…

      “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

      • let’s just wait for betts and white to be ready, and um, cross your fingers that yemelin was taking notes from the press box on what he needs to do to help this team >:)

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  43. adamkennelly says:

    I saw a lot of Habs forwards getting knocked around by big Leafs D-men…I saw some attempted push back from Cammy and Gio and Gomer but honestly – it looked pretty silly…I also saw AK up to his old self…There are huge holes in this team…if we don’t score on the PP its over.

  44. Hammer says:

    The Habs have less finish then my 1996 Honda!! This is now 20 years since the Habs were inflicted by ” Finish paralysis”, an ailment so devastating that it forces even the most diehard fan to turn to reruns of friends.

  45. mrhabby says:

    it was the 1st game right…i expected and received the usual lack of execution, sloopy play and players who are not quite there yet….its only 1st game.

    man do the habs need markov and hopefully campoli is not gone long..the acc is just bad luck.

    if anybody saw the rants by cherry …well what can you say… what a neanderthal and his sidekick mclean well again no explanation required. beyond me why cbc has not asked cherry to hang them up…so many people love the guy.

    ps..give some kudo’s to the leafs or i should say reimer..he saved there ass the game that was there for the taken.

    • tbovs says:

      Reimer looked sloppy and lost at the start … looking behind him and not seeing where the puck was. He is gonna flop….doesn’t have the pedigree that a Price does. I laughed when Simpson started comparing the two goalies and stated Reimer was close to Price implying he has the same talent. Then Heals stepped in and stated that Riemer has a long road to climb before he is anywehre near Price.

      • habsguy says:

        anything that didnt hit Reimer in the chest hit the post, I didnt see him do anything great!!!!!

        • SnowManHabs85 says:

          Exactly what I thought too. Our players got knocked around easily. As soon as the second period came, Leafs players began being physical and Habs were left taking the hits or being push away from the puck.

          I was hoping Emelin would be playing last night, to see him in real action would be more interesting than last nights Habs PP.

          “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

      • mrhabby says:

        he played just good enough in the 1st period and then habs got kind of got disinterested..

        saw lots of big players on leafs knock around the habs forwards.

  46. jimmy shaker says:

    Man was that ever a waste of time watching that shite game last night. Please tell me or at least lie to me and say that the games will get better! Everyone was garbage from Gomer all the way down to Subban. Hey Carey, sorry for the lack of support from those jabroni’s last night…….also, get out of the blue, and you’ve got a better chance of stopping dion’s shot.


    • Lafrich says:


      Check that.


    • Kooch7800 says:

      Price was in the blue as PK gave the puck away on a brutal pass. He didn’t have time to square up outside of the blue and too be honest was a bullet shot. I would blame PK a lot more than Price on that goal.

      PK is good but man he stunk last night.

      • jimmy shaker says:

        The play was started just inside the redline where kessel picked up subban’s pass and made the play to dion. Are you sure in that 5 to 8 second span price never was able to creep up 2 feet in his crease to have a better chance of getting his body on that puck? Yes, it was pk’s fualt and yes it was a great shot……..i just want to see price at the top of that crease and if the puck still goes in, than kudo’s to dion, at least price did all he could.


  47. j2c says:

    I was at the game last night sporting my new Pacioretty jersey. The whole team seemed to disappear after they had dominated in the first period. We had an obvious problem with lack of finishing last night and our passes and plays were often out of sync (which I hope will only get better). My opinion of Cole being on the 3rd line is that he shouldn’t have been at all. He should have started the night on the line with Plekanic so that line could develop chemistry, he perhaps should have even spend time on that line in the last preseason game. It sucks to have gotten shut out!

    When we got out of the arena the leaf fans were partying and singing as if they won the Stanley Cup, but I guess winning opening night is the closest thing they will have to that. Overall a bad effort by the habs after the first period, but nothing to panic about yet. Let’s hope they will come out flying on Sunday because they are going to need it if they hope to defeat Winnipeg on their opening night.

    • totally agree. not sure what JM was thinking, besides trying to get him to mesh with 3 lines so he can move him around like a joker card. but yea, totally should have been on the pleks line from the get-go. but hey, chemistry takes time to build.

      here’s the rest of the season! cheers!! *raises mug*

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  48. CanadienBoy says:

    Les Senator the Montreal

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