Making new friends in Boston


Dan Ryan of has produced this flow chart of my perceived outrage over goaltender contact.

I’m honoured. Seriously, I am. I think it’s hilarious, and I’ve told Dan that. His chart is worth sharing here…


  1. dontpanic says:

    Absolutely hilarious….

    if you can’t take a joke you’ve got problems




    nice to see some people are still optimizing websites for netscape 2.0

  3. Matt_in_TO says:

    I think we all know that the NHL’s flow chart looks something like this:

    Is the offending player a Bruin ->
    No -> Suspension
    Yes -> Incident was just a hockey play. No further action.

    – In Price We Trust

  4. hdcase says:

    Canadian fans are *so* concerned about illegal hits, I’m just surprised that no one from Canada has ever mention Scott Gomez’s hit on Chris Kelly in last year’s Stanley Cup playoffs. He shoved him from behind after the play was over and Chris smashed his face into the net, breaking bones in his face. Now that was a dangerous play, the sort of action that should have resulted in a suspension. Where were the Canadian fans then? Hypocrites.


    • punkster says:

      It was a hockey play.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • why were bruins fans up in arms when rome hit horton even though he didnt have the puck, yet patches was faking

      see i can point out hypocracy too

    • RetroMikey says:

      Yup, I remember that and as a Habs fan it was a dangerous play.
      Yes we do have many hypocrites on this site, say one thing then jump the bandwagon.
      But don’t ever mention that our team is too soft and you’ll be ganged up like I have but RetroMikey can handle himself.

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      C-a-n-a-d-i-E-n or C-a-n-a-d-i-a-n? I-d-i-o-t.

    • nellis13 says:

      No one from “Canada?” Just so you know hdcase the Canadians aren’t Canada’s national team, although I can see how this might be confusing. There are in fact 7 teams in Canada (which by the way is a country just north of America where Santa Clause lives).
      Oh, and if you watch the replay closely you’ll see it was clearly the goal post’s fault.

    • Caballero says:

      Part of the game. Hockey is a contact sport etc…

    • oldsmoguy says:

      we try not to mention Gomez….but really, the bruin fans that visit this site, I wouldn’t be able to even look at a Broon site without throwing up…

    • hdcase:

      Obviously it wasn’t anything close to this type of scenario, or there would have been more coverage of it. If a hab does something dirty, then by all means, they should face the consequences. It’s just a little fishy that the last several questionable–to use the term lightly–calls against Bruins players have resulted in no consequences.

      This is the problem with using only a hockey player to police other hockey players. There is such a thing in legal terms about the ‘spirit of the law’ that means you can use a little bit of subjectivity to fill in the greyish circumstances of an incident. Adhering to policy for policy’s sake is simply passing the buck and tantamount to saying ‘my hands are tied.’ It also results in more leeway to certain teams who flirt with the rules and play on the edge of good hockey. Yes, I’m looking at you, Bruins.
      There needs to be a committee composed of hockey players, someone with an iota of legal sense and maybe GM representation. Somehow, some way it has to change from the joke it is.

      New era, indeed. =/


  5. sandromartinez says:

    @ The Cat: JM might have a say but he certainly doesn’t get to choose the d on this team. For a hockey fan u should know that is left up to management. And the reason JM cherishes players like Gill who excel at a particular skill set is because they r valuable. The number of complete players in the league can be counted on one hand, teams are lucky to have one. Building a team is based on bringing together individual skill sets that work well as a whole.. And generally speaking they’ve done a pretty good job. Consider that if Markov is the same player coming back from injury we might just have one of those complete players, and the young players in dev left to lead this team through the past season and 17 games, which have been plagued by injury, have done well enough to get to the playoffs and keep it afloat. Something tells me JM has a part to play in that.

  6. HabinBurlington says:

    Any word on what is Hal Gill’s injury, I thought at first he was just ill? Figured new baby in the house, colds flus running rampant.

    Is it any worse than that or is it an injury?

  7. besthabschick says:

    I guess the NHL is a joke to the bruins. I would probably think that if I was a fan, player, or part of the bruins coaching staff. I love hockey so much. I wish these kinda politics weren’t in the game and we could enjoy it for what it is supposed to be. A great game.

  8. The Cat says:

    Im getting a little sick of the whining towards the Bruins. Whine about JM instead, hes the one that completely refuses to fight fire with fire. The only coach Ive ever seen bench players after giving game-momentum changing body checks. He’s always going on about special teams and how its the bread and butter. Seriously, you couldnt pull a needle out of his ass with all the horsepower in the world.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • habsperspective says:

      Name a coach you know without a doubt that could teach a team made up of midget, maybe even bantam defenceman, better then the 500 record Martin has put up. Truly have you looked at what the coach has to work with. Minus Gorges, and the ROOK, who will find his place but has yet to, without Gill, and Spatch, you got Cameron Diaz, Shea Webers removed cousin, a russian guy that had a name change, and now Joey St-Denis. Scotty Bowman and Toe Blake combined, couldnt of coached them to a better record.
      You know what would help our powerplay, Markov, Hamrlik, Wiz, even BERGY. Sh%t they all have a point shot. Now were left with Plex, and Darche. And thats about as good as it gets after Subban.
      The powerplay problem isnt coaching its talent-less.

      Leave the Coach alone, otherwise, it will be another 3-5 rebuild on chemistry.

      • The Cat says:

        Well what he has to work with is his fault, isnt it? The habs D is small and gets pounded all the time, its not bad luck that theyre hurt all the time. Why is Hal Gill in this lineup? He has no speed, he doesnt hit, all he has is an octopus like reach which is useful on the PK. You can suck in other parts of the game but if you excel at special teams, or you are non descript and disciplined, youre good as gold with JM.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • habsperspective says:

          Im not certain who Martin has to work with on the blue line is so much his choice as it is to managements.

          • The Cat says:

            Well I would hope they talk to each other about their needs. If you got on one hand JM saying that the PP is the bread and butter of the team, then on the other hand management doesnt resign or lets go all the dmen that play the point on the PP (like the guys you mentioned MAB, Wiz, Hamrlik), then thats an even worse problem.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  9. OneTimer says:

    I’ve got a good flow chart. It goes like this:

    Are you a Bruin?

    -> No. -> Act like a decent human being.

    -> Yes. -> {Drag knuckles. / Start scrum after every whistle when game is clearly lost. / Break opposing player’s neck with vicious check when game is clearly lost …and blame it on the stanchion. / Goon your way to a Stanley Cup thanks to Daddy Campbell. / Unapologetically concuss opposing star goalie with repeat goon offender; act all defensive when entire league hates you.}

  10. OneTimer says:

    like Yoshi said, “deep down, Bruins are good people… DEEP underground.”

  11. Bob_Sacamano says:

    It´s hilarious really. Hilarious that someone would find that hilarious. Boston or not, it´s a decent try but not funny.

  12. makka83 says:

    That’s not a flow chart. Boston fans and writers are as dumb as their players.

    A flow chart needs a start and an end. This chart here has no start…

    Overall, pretty stupid.

  13. HabFanSince72 says:

    Shanahan’s boss is Gary Bettman.

    His boss is Jeremy Jacobs, owner of the Bruins.

    And Shanahan’s a coward:

    “NHL disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan spoke with Lucic on Monday but decided against suspending him because he didn’t feel that he had the latitude under the current rules to do it. “

  14. habstrinifan says:

    Amid all the furor, I somehow cant shake the feeling that in the HABS dressing room sits a MAN who has never been so demoralised in his career, whose tenacity and drive had him among the most respected player sin the NHL but who now appears beaten down.

    It might be just me… but Brian Gionta seems a lost soul. Which is a shame because from his university days onwards he has beaten all the odds.

    Good night!

    • The Cat says:

      I get what youre saying. I think Saku became this way also. Carbonneau as well. I think they just project an uninviting facade so that the reporters keep their questions/interactions to a minimum; knowing that the slightest thing they say may be taken out of context and used against them in the nonending talkshows always looking for the scandal/scoop of the day. They dont trust the reporters like they used to. But that could be just me. When they didnt have a captain, I didnt think it was a good idea cause its the Montreal Canadiens and not the Mighty Ducks, but I can see why they did that.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  15. SlovakHab says:

    I am just thinking now how good that we got rid of that bum McDonagh so we can call up St. Denis and have Scott Gomez playing a winger on our 4th line 😀

  16. smiler2729 says:

    F Boston, F everything about them.

    “Geez, I sure wish we were WICKED AWESOME like the Broons and their chowdahhead fans and their backwards baseball caps” <– sarcasm for those who don't sense it

  17. SeriousFan09 says:

    Thoughts from watching the Hamilton Bulldogs play the Peoria Rivermen, Peoria won 3-2 in the shootout, Ben Bishop was in nets for them which was about 50% of their NHL-capable talent in the arena. Jonathan Cheechoo, it is honestly depressing to know that he once led the NHL in goals.

    The defence is pitiful, 2012 can not come fast enough so Pateryn, Tinordi, Ellis and Beaulieu can get to work making it respectable. Losing Nash to injury and St Denis to the big club makes them utterly incapable of moving the puck with any efficiency. The game was close mostly because St Louis may have even less talent on their farm team than MTL does.

    Alexander Avtsin: You can see the skill, can skate well and shows some good stickhandling but still needs to use his teammates more and gain some weight. Did go to the net and stand there for a few times looking for a rebound though. Denied on the shootout, went in and just ran out of room as he overhandled the puck trying to fake out the goaltender.

    Alain Berger: Decent effort, but no notable moments with the puck, not afraid to work along the boards but at present projects at best as a checker, maybe. Just didn’t see him doing anything with his stick.

    Phil DeSimone: Probably the least impressive of the Avtsin/Leblanc line, but he did covert well on Nattinen’s drop pass to go top shelf. Can’t say much else about him was impressive, nothing that seperated him from the others.

    Louis Leblanc: Was paired with Avtsin for a good part of the game, good agility along the boards and decent stickhandling, engaged throughout the game and along with Avtsin/DeSimone was the most dangerous line Hamilton could skate really in terms of talent and generating offence. ran out of room in the shootout and but also disappointing because he went for the same move the previous two shooters were stymied on.

    Joonas Nattinen: Similar to Berger, did not do anything exceptional, engaged well along the boards, did not do many faceoffs and did not dominate them either. You really did not notice him until he made a very good break into Peoria’s zone and made a great drop pass to DeSimone who roofed it to give the Dogs their only lead of the game at 2-1. He tried to do a little more later on but nothing happened for him. Could be a decent checking centre in a couple years.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Ouch Hamilton’s looking bleak. Hope Leblanc just needs to get into season’s form.

      Also looking unlikely any of the players in the minors this year will get a chance to help Hamilton in the post season at this rate.

    • Everlasting1 says:

      My condolences.
      St.Louis have prospect Vladimir Tarasenko in the wings. I’d take him over all those chumps you have listed.

      Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9

      “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    • showey47 says:

      Its pretty much impossible for the dogs to ice a strong team this year considering how many players have made the jump in the last year or so. Last season was subban’s first full year,then you have DD,maxpac,weber,white. You have engqvist up and down (now hurt),palushaj,trotter traded and now st.denis called up. You would be hard pressed to find another farm team with that much turnover due to making the jump in such a short time.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Aware of the turnover (and I talk about it quite a bit) but man when this Dogs team starts getting tapped it gets pretty ugly from the standpoint of someone trying to enjoy a game.

        Even with the other bodies not called up, quality would not be that good. Bottom line the 2012 influx is pretty necessary.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • showey47 says:

          Oh i agree, i don’t even expect much out of them to be contenders next season due to all the new players adapting to the professional game and tougher schedule. Especially the guys coming in from the ncaa. Though they should be better next season,not just a real threat come playoff time.

    • Higman says:

      Thanks for the update, Serious. I had to somewhere else besides the game tonight, and wondered how they did. Gonna be a long year for the Dogs. I am enjoying watching LL’s vision of the ice. Let me ask ya something: Does Conboy look completely gassed after every shift he takes to you? And, I’m not sitting there with a stopwatch or anything, bit do his shifts seem rather short? I don’t know, I just get the impression he needs to up his conditioning, big time.

      When the tough gets going, the laughs start flowing. Like Price said, “Chill.”

  18. Malreg says:

    Habs called up Frederic St-Denis. Probably just in case Gill can’t go…

  19. BoomBoom says:

    The NHL was turned into a bush league under Campbell’s watch. It continues to be a bush league even with Shanahan. Lucic goes out of his way to hurt Miller and then gloats about it after the game. Any other sports league would not tolerate this behavior , the NHL instead closes its eyes and can’t wait for the hype that will surround the next Sabres and Bruins game.

    Mes amis, I love the Habs but as long as PG and JM are in charge, the Habs will have a difficult time in the new reality bush league of the NHL. If Lucic had hit Price instead, who would have stood up to him. Maybe Gorges, who would have taken a beating…Moen, though I think he could take on Lucic. But Moen is a half hearted fighter, and would’t be going in to try and take Lucic’s head off. Lucky for us, Price has been able to get up every time he’s been run over this year.

    Last word, Lucic and the Bruins in general show a lack of respect towards their fellow NHLers. What goes around comes around, and one day Lucic (a-hole always chooses his spots but backs down when challenged by a real tough guy) will pick on the wrong guy and the wrong team and he’ll pay for it.

    C’est le but!

    • kempie says:

      “If Lucic had hit Price instead, who would have stood up to him.”

      Probably Price.

    • Kelvinator30 says:

      Your post is right on. I had thought that Bettman and Campbell would try to compete against the NFL, MLB or NBA. But they are really trying to compete against MMA and the WWE. That is what sells south of the border. Think about it…who wants to watch skill and grace when we could see blood on the ice? We are headed back to the days of “Slapshot” because ultimately that is what sells. It stinks but it is what it is. PG and JM are trying to manage the team toward an ideal of speed and skill that (I’d like to believe) most true hockey fans enjoy….but that’s just not the game now. Its about appealing to the morons and for that you need carnage. So, like in the 70s the Habs must adapt their game once not become necessarily the toughest team in the league…but one that has a fair shot of competing without injury or being pushed around. I am not sure the leadership of the team will realize and accept this.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Right on! For all of those that were hoping Shanahan was the beginning of a new era in the NHL, he has been an incredible disappointment. He may have been a decent hockey player, but he is a horrible executive. Every minute he spends in that job further exposes him and tarnishes his reputation. The worst part is that he, and the league, are messing with forces they may not be able to control.

      I think there comes a point where as a GM and/or coach you begin to accept that you can no longer play the game by the rules because those responsible for enforcing them aren’t. What happens when you come to that conclusion? Since giving up is not an option, the logical move is to start playing by the same rules as the offenders. Lindy Ruff began to sound like a guy that has had that ephinany after he heard Shananhan’s shameful decision. Will the Sabres go after Thomas/Rask (watch for the Bruins to start the more expendable of the two next game)? Maybe not, Ruff knows the league will levy a ridiculous punishment on if he does because he will be directly challenging them. But something bad is going to happen.

      So, here’s a question. When that moment occurs when you realize it’s the wild west out there and the only way to protect yourself from the bad guys is to strap on your own six iron, why would you do it by bringing up a brawler(s) and playing right into idiots like Lucic’s strength? Why wouldn’t you bring up guys with a history of crippling knee-on-knee shots, hits from behind on small skilled players, that sort of thing. Start your own “no-knees for Lucic” campaign? Fighting a guy who has just injured your goalie really accomplishes nothing in the overall scheme of things. Injuring the other teams star player evens the score.

      I hope the league wakes up before it is too late.

  20. 24 Cups says:

    Shanahan changes his mind on the Lucic hit after the GMs complain.

  21. Jim Edson says:

    So the Goons media dimwits have learned a new new hockey phrase: ” incidental contact” !

    Now they can use it as liberally as they use “diving” when exposing their limited hockey knowledge day in and out!

    It’s like a group of kids on the playground who hear a new phrase on TV then try to use it in every sentence they utter!

    Pathetic group of knuckle-dragging lowlifes.

    …..My empire is crumbling, my international sponsors are deserting me, my authority is questioned, I am held in contempt wherever I go.

    Who am I: Barak Obama or Gary Bettman.

  22. HABSsince92 says:

    I hate the Bruins (current, former, and future), I hate their fans, I hate their media.

    The Scott Gomez line………..where wingers go to die.

    • citizenSanto says:

      how do I love the Bruins?
      brotherly love?
      the way michael loved fredo in the godfather.
      unrequited love?
      the way glenn close loved michael douglas in fatal attraction
      most likely obsessive love,
      the way most on HIO love to hate Gomez

      Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.
      — Augustine of Hippo

  23. Bill says:

    Tom Kostopolous and Zenon Konopka fight: draw with a slight edge to Konopka for the take-down. Konopka, of course, is the guy everyone wanted the Habs to pick up as an enforcer, and he couldn’t beat Kostopoulous? Like, you can’t spell “Tom Kostopoulous” without TKO.

    Also, Toronto lost … in a shootout, so they keep pace. Boston won again, and look out, ’cause Pouliot scored his second of the year, which is sure to light a fire under disgruntled Pouliot fans (and there actually are a couple here!).

    Finally … I should have known this before, but apparently Columbus employs a hockey player whose last name is actually “Clitsome”?? That’s clitsome … I mean awesome.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • HardHabits says:

      That’s not the 1st time those two tangled.

      I wanted to pick up a gritty face-off specialist. Then I found out he was a lefty and a defensive liability. I also checked his fight card at hockey fights and realized that his only win was against Kostopoulous. I guess two times is a charm. Or is it fool me twice?

      • Bill says:

        Konopka is good on draws, but once that’s over he’s not exactly Bob Gainey out there, you are right about that. Also he leads the league in PIM this year I think? Not what the Habs need.

        As if JM would play him anyway, I guess.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

  24. slychard says:

    Stubs is honored, what a chump.

  25. punkster says:

    Used to listen this one back in the day just before hitting the hay. Good stuff to float you into a mellow night sleep.

    John Coltrane, a tune called “Dear Lord”, from the album “Transition”.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  26. Marc10 says:

    Ah Boston… Can’t wait for them to get theirs. Every dog has their day.

    Still, nice graph. Props on that.

  27. G-Man says:

    I’d call that attempt at humour juvenile, but that would be elevating it.
    Sad, that they worry so much about the Montreal media. It’s kind of a loser’s obsession, really.

  28. Tony McLean says:

    Brunes media dimwits routinely fans the outrage of their ‘simple’ followers. So easy to manipulate them. Sad really.
    Real Captains:
    Newsy, Hainsworth, Mantha, Cleghorn, Toe, Bouchard, Rocket, Harvey, Beliveau, Pocket, Cournoyer, Gainey, Carbo, Damphousse.

  29. C_exacte says:

    Does your dad work as the NHL disciplinarian? =) yes =) well then no suspension for breaking a neck of a player that you have past history with or an elbow to head of 4th liner or for throwing the crowd a middle finger on national tv. Does your boss write the checks for the commissioner as acting head of the board of govenors =) yes, =) why didn’t you say so, how do you spell champiars?

  30. Bill says:

    Minor detail, but WAS Reimer in the crease? Looked like he was out to me.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  31. Just finished packing for my 2011 Canadiens Super Trip

    This time tomorrow I’ll be watching our Canadiens from the Bell.

    This time tomorrow plus 4 I will be knee deep in Hurley’s Beer.

    This time tomorrow plus 8 I will be leaving Hurley’s.

    This time tomorrow plus 16 I will wake to a massive headache… get the idea.

    Of course I would like to see the Canadiens win every game, but I won’t hold my breath. I’ll be there cheering them on no matter what.

    Manitoba’s #1 Canadiens Fan!

    “What’s your name son?”
    “They Call Me Shane”

    Shane Oliver
    Brandon, MB,Canada
    R7B 2R7
    Ph- 204 724 8418

  32. HFX-HabFan says:

    Wow are the Bruins/their fans/their media ever insecure. They (somehow) won the Cup last year, yet here they are creating this garbage instead of celebrating their win. I guess when it’s been so long since they won the Cup, they don’t know how to celebrate a win properly.

    Insecure much?

  33. Arune Singh says:

    I think these fans forget that Gionta clearly had no intent to injure Reimer and he’s the last guy you’d expect to do so.

    Lucic, whatever your opinion on him, is a physical player. He throws his weight around. And he mocked the Sabres after his hit.

    That said, I do think Cole was irresponsible in going into the crease and while I won’t assign intent, it was a dumb thing to do. He didn’t look like he cared the goalie was there, even if he was trying to get out of his way.

    But again this is far different than how the Bruins carry themselves on and off the ice. Both the Chara and Lucic incidents are evident of that.

    Thank You Saku. Thank you Halak. Thank you to all who wear the CH.

    • DearyLeary says:

      Enroth flopped like no tomorrow on that call. That being said Cole had no business going through the crease there and the call was completely justified.

      Gionta was skating for a loose puck and made a visible effort to get out of the way. It’s unfortunate but to equate that to the Lucic penalty is ludicrous.

      Lucic made no attempt to avoid Miller. He tried to hit him, and then he went and bragged about it to the media.

      If Boston didn’t have some world class universities in the city bloating the IQ average, the average would likely be in the negatives. What a stupid city.

    • Tony McLean says:

      Who did ColeTrain injure???
      Real Captains:
      Newsy, Hainsworth, Mantha, Cleghorn, Toe, Bouchard, Rocket, Harvey, Beliveau, Pocket, Cournoyer, Gainey, Carbo, Damphousse.

  34. DearyLeary says:

    Why are Boston fans so obsessed with what the Montreal media and Canadiens fans think? The only time I ever read anything from Boston is when it’s linked in one of these news-dumps.

  35. Mark C says:

    In case someone gets tired of this Tijuana knock off, here’s the original:

  36. Gorges_the_great says:

    Agree with the previous poster that it’s a lame attempt at Down Goes Brown humour. Not even close. Oh and the way they crossed out Bruins and put Bullies: genius!

    And what’s with their obsession with Stubbs? I find Stubbs is the most levelheaded of the bunch. Just as willing to criticize the Habs as he is to criticize other teams.

    I ended up on NESN today when I was trying to check up on Miller’s status cause I have him in my pool. I knew I should have resisted. It’s pretty sad that that stuff is supposed to pass for journalism. They write the same way Lucic plays: reckless and full of stupid smirks.

  37. likehoy says:

    I like how the bruins writer personally mocks another writer in trying to prove a point.

    – Gomez is holding down the “overpaid” button

  38. montreal ace says:

    I have to say I got a chuckel and a smile looking the chart over, clever and funny

  39. punkster says:

    Good for you for posting this. Even as a weak parody of a good satirical piece it still gave me a small chuckle.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  40. Mark C says:

    Lame, and now the latest example of Boston Bruin fandoms hypocrisy.

  41. ProHabs says:

    I think it is about time again for some members of the media to ask JM some tough questions. I would hope it all won`t be placed on the shoulders of poor Jessica this time but I want Jacques to explain:

    – Why is Pleks still playing the point on the powerplay
    – Why is our best and most talented player PK Subban not on the first wave of the powerplay
    – Why does the team continue to go into a defensive shell once they get a lead
    – Why is a career fourth liner (Darche) still getting powerplay time
    – Why was MaxPac playing the along the sideboards so often during the powerplay. He should be in front of the net, he is not a playmaker.

  42. Thurston says:

    Bruins fans know what a flow chart is? That’s a triumph in and of itself.
    I just thought they were monosyllabic goobers who condone cheap thug tactics.

  43. Haligonian-Hab says:

    Terrible attempt at Down Goes Brown comedy

  44. Number31 says:

    Hilarious load of crap.

  45. Everlasting1 says:

    Boston fans must have roared with laughter over this gem lol

    Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

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