Louie, Louie

• Pat Hickey on Dominic Moore
• Richard Labbé on the new reality of the NHL
• A Swedish coach (who’s actually a Canadian who coached in Switzerland) in Edmonton
Some cool videos:
• Canadiens’ Top 15 goals by corunguneee, found by Crabvader



  1. Bugs says:

    Hmm…maybe that’s it, JT.

    Booner, whaddaya think?

    Big money for Theo still?

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  2. Storm Man says:

    Thanks for the update. I still think things will be done with McNeil before the season.

  3. Morenz7 says:

    Don’t forget Avtsin.

  4. Morenz7 says:

    Yep. Met the man once. Very interesting—got more out of that Swiss nat team than anyone imagined possible. Could be an NHL skipper someday, and seems a very good fit for the Oilers right now, with their young talent coming in.

  5. Chuck says:

    A huge problem with young kids is attempting to throw curve balls and junk before their arms are fully developed; their elbows and shoulders can’t take the stress, which leads to joint problems early in their career.

    Little League and high school leagues should outlaw breaking balls. Sixteen year-old kids needing Tommy John surgury just isn’t right.

  6. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Chargers will still walk away with the AFC crown, you’re right that they’ll have trouble against the run, but they’ll be putting up 30 + pts per game. Merriman has been in a steady decline since his rookie year(maybe the roid suspension has something to do with it), hence English was drafted last year to replace him. Jackson will be replaced by Floyd, although he’s not as talented, he’ll be pushed by nanee and Davis and with the other weapons that PR has, the offence will be fine. Matthews will sign soon and report to camp, McNeil is the big question mark right now! If anyone pushes them in the divison, it will be the Chiefs.

  7. Storm Man says:

    Joe Haden has signed today so Matthaws is around the corner.

  8. TomNickle says:

    Little too early to get high on Foster considering he still has to beat out Slaton and Tate.  And even when a winner emerges it will still be a committee back there.

    I don’t like Doucet a whole lot this season because the Cardinals are surely going to pound the ball and there won’t be a lot of looks for Doucet behind Fitz and Breaston.  If Wells or Hightower end up hurt, I love Doucet.  But not in a healthy lineup.

    Britt I like.  But my league as you saw focuses on long distance touchdowns and if Nate Washington is healthy is a better bet to take one to the house.  I do like that Young is in love with Britt though.


  9. Storm Man says:

    Nice lineup. I was hoping you would have joined the HIO Habs fans only league in ESPN, 16 teams joined should be fun. I would look at Britt and Doucet as WR as sleepers and Foster at RB.  

  10. TommyB says:

    Excellent article by Robert L on the Leblanc signing, and the various scenarios that could play out.  He covered it pretty well, and managed to get me thinking a bit more openly about the signing and what it could mean.

  11. TomNickle says:

    I’m in an awesome fantasy draft.  It’s been running for over 25 years and this is going to be my 4th year in it.

    Won it last year with a superb lineup.

    Check it out.


    Be sure to check out the scoring system under points.  It’s different than most leagues.

    Doing some research today.

    Hakeem Nicks and Mike Wallace are two guys that I think will move into the top 20 receivers in the league.


  12. Storm Man says:

    I don’t know any team in the AFC west I would fear in the running game. Williams was a stud I think Johnson or Garay could do a good job but Thomas is the guy in the long run he should be fun to watch in the pre-season.

  13. TomNickle says:

    How are the Chargers gonna stop the run without Jamal Williams?

    Don’t know if I share your optimism about the Chargers.  More questions than answers right now.


  14. Storm Man says:

    The Raiders are putting a good team together but have no shot at beating my Chargers. Rivers,Gates,Sproles,Floyd,Naanee and Mathews are too much for the Raiders D at this point. I look forward to the Oct 10 game :)

  15. TomNickle says:

    I know this is off-topic on a hockey board.

    But to those of you who were ready to crown Stephen Strasburg as the next Nolan Ryan.


    Kids can’t throw 100mph consistently from the age of 15 to till their mid thirties and keep their arm in any kind of working condition.

    Strasburg has had approximately 10 starts and has already landed on the disabled list.  And what has caused him to land there?  Shoulder inflammation.

    Nats might want to hire Greg Maddux as their pitching coach.  The kid will throw his arm off before he’s 30 years old ala Kerry Wood if somebody doesn’t teach him how to locate his off speed pitches.


  16. avatar_58 says:

    It’s funny how “he gets the wins” is the motto about our goalies isn’t it? Obsessed over wins, who cares about other stats. Clearly the GMs don’t feel this way. Maybe there’s a reason Price was chosen beyond financial?


    (uh oh)

  17. TomNickle says:

    You’re going to laugh but it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the Raiders won the division.

    And I’m sick of everyone predicting that my Packers will win the Superbowl.  Their success may depend on Tramon Williams and Morgan Burnett.  I don’t like those prospects even though Burnett looks like a stud.

  18. J.T. says:

    Two things come to mind when I watch that video:

    1. Wow, Pleks is a good player!  And he will be better this year if they can get him off the wear and tear of the PK more often.

    2. I miss hockey sooo much!



  19. Storm Man says:

    LOL I like that last part of your post nice one :) From what I have been told by some good friends in San Diego that McNeil’s camp is in good talks with the team as is Matthews and Merriman is coming to camp soon. Jackson I think maybe on his way out. Naanee is looking good in camp and could have a break out year. I would like to see Ingram with the Chargers but it will be tough as we will win the AFC west again :)

  20. J.T. says:

    Yeah…noooo second thoughts until the second he sucked out loud.  Then there were second and third and fourth thoughts and they all ended with Varlamov in the net.   The playoffs were his statement time and his statement was “I can’t be trusted under pressure.”  Ergo, no contract, no money and no job.



  21. TomNickle says:

    Yeah, Locker is special.

    Any player who has the ability or opportunity to win the Heisman twice is going to be a player in the NFL, or has all of the tools rather.

    Mark Ingram and Jake Locker should go 1-2 in the draft next year and it will be interesting to see how that goes.

    I think the Bills and Rams are safe bets for the 1-2 spots.

    Then again, if your Chargers don’t get Merriman, McNeil and Jackson and Mathews sorted out they could be fighting for that #1 overall pick too 😉

  22. Mark C says:

    Think we’ll have to wait another year on Yemelin, his contract ends after next season. Kinda get the feeling that it’s the NHL then or never for him.

  23. Storm Man says:

    Bradford is the real deal and for anyone to bring the name’s Leak and Leaf into the mix have no clue about football. I hope you get to see Keenm out of Houston this guy is unreal and Locker is alot like Bradford but Locker has a stronger arm.

  24. Bugs says:

    Hey, you said he wouldn’t be cheap.

    Me, I don’t get it. This guy has 30 wins. That’s what you said. He wouldn’t be cheap because he has 30 wins. This is a 30-win goalie were talkin about. What’s the hold-up? This is a super-talented cat over here. I mean, Boudreau even said he would take Theo’s ultra-fantastic record over Miller’s and Brodeur’s and had noooo second-thoughts about puttin’m in the playoffs. That’s a STATEMENT right there. 30 wins doesn’t fall from the sky, does it?

    The guy’s a star. Should be signed. Not cheap. Makin billions. What’s goin on?

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  25. Bugs says:

    I don’t want cap relief; I want the Hamr.

    And hell, I don’t mind the Spaceman either.

    Not the Hamr’s fault Gainey gave’m what he did, the guy came to play, the guy delivers, I love’m and I wanna keep’m. Good defenceman.

    Trade deadline final year of his contract? Then, get back to me.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  26. scrowe21 says:

    Sergei’s goal against Van in that video was so sick…and Lapierre’s breakaway goal. Love it

    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21

  27. TomNickle says:

    Definitely an exciting time to be a fan.  

    We have three players going to WJHC camp in Leblanc, Ellis and Gallagher.

    We have PK and possibly Eller coming up to the big club full time.

    Pacioretty and Palushaj are going to reunite for a season in Hamilton and one or both could be on the club for the 2011-2012 season in physical scoring roles.

    Our scoring depth should be through the roof sooner rather than later.

    It would be really nice to see Yemelin, Kristo and Tinordi added to the Hamilton lineup but I suspect the signing of Alex Henry means that no more defensemen will be added to the roster.

  28. Mike Boone says:

    30 wins on a team that scores a bazillion goals. Made $4.5 million last season. So how much of a haircut is Propecia Boy willing to take?

  29. Bill J says:

    Yeah more I think of it, the more I see your P.O.V.

    Hey – if Tinordi goes to London.

    Would not be surprised to see HIM in the A, just in time for the Calder Cup Playoffs start (like Price when he came over from the WHL)

    I may have to go to Hamilton, to catch a few games then.

    Leblanc/Avstin/Kristo ?  😀 + Tinordi, would be fun to watch I think.

  30. TomNickle says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see them add an eighth Bill.

    Last year we lost Mara, Spacek, Markov and Gill for extended periods of time.

  31. Bill J says:

    And the Habs have 7.

    If Markov returns for opening day.

    Which last we heard, was the plan.

  32. TomNickle says:

    No.  The Bulldogs only had five defensemen under contract until this signing.

  33. Bill J says:

    As a stop gap & cap relief-er – perhaps…

    Stop gap, in the sense to allow Webber &/or Carle to find themselves ?

    Cap relief, to then go out & re-invest into a long term contract renewal with Markov + acquiring a Top 6 Forward ?


    Hey just putting it out there,

    C’mon indeed Bugsy 😉

  34. TomNickle says:

    Yeah, I was in debate with a couple of people about the risk of Bradford.

    In my opinion, the most accurate passer to come out of the draft since Peyton Manning.

    He was drawing comparisons to Alex Smith, JaMarcus Russell, Chris Leak, some McPherson guy and Ryan Leaf.

    Total garbage.  Bradford made Malcolm Kelly look like the second coming of Randy Moss.  He wasn’t an option quarterback.

    People like to knock him because he played in a spread offense but what they forget is that his receivers weren’t taking 5 yard slants the distance for touchdowns.  He was hitting receivers all over the field in multiple coverages, on the money.  He can make all of the throws, unlike Leaf, Smith, Russell and Leak and has a good head on his shoulders.

    I still think Alex Smith will enjoy a good career.  Got a raw deal having to learn from so many coordinators in his first three years.

    If Bradford gets some respectable weapons, he’ll be an elite NFL quarterback in my opinion.

  35. gauver says:

    I disagree with Labbe; I prefer the current “hard” cap.  It rewards good management and punishes poor management.  We are now getting to a point in the timeline since the end of the lockout where GMs are having to face the consequences of their decisions regarding long-term rich contracts to underperforming players.  This adds a new layer of accountability that I think is healthy.  A soft cap will simply mask poor to mediocre management and tilt the playing field back in favour of the richest clubs.  Interest in and support for NHL hockey is maximized if all fans have reason to believe that their team might win the Cup someday; if your team can only afford to spend $40 million less on player salaries than the richest clubs, there is little hope and therefore little reason to support the team (think MLB baseball).

    Thanks for the link to the radio interview with Feaster.  I really appreciated his description of the salary arbitration process as it pertained to Ian White as I learned something new.  Keep up the great work!

  36. Bugs says:

    A 2-way contract barely-holdin-onto-the-NHL journeyman taking over for the Hamr or the Spaceman?

    Uhh, no.

    C’mon, Billy.



    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  37. Bill J says:


    Leblanc, for sure unless he is on a Memorial Cup path, will join the Dogs for a Calder Cup run.

    I think the possibility of Kristo joining Leblanc for a Calder Cup run, along with Avstin could happen.


    As you allude to, all 3 play together for a year in the A.

    Tinordi in London, would be VERY VERY good IMO.


  38. Bill J says:

    Anyone think the addition of Alexandre Picard means the departure of Hamrlik or Spacek ?

  39. TomNickle says:

    Louis Leblanc will be in Hamilton by the end of the year.

    Guaranteed.  The Habs aren’t going to waste a year of his contract playing for the Montreal Juniors.

    This is a publicity move for the junior team to get fans interested in them.

    There’s no way he stays in the QMJHL for the duration of the season.  I expect to see Danny Kristo signed before training camp starts.

    Leblanc  Kristo and Avstin working as a line in Hamilton for the year.

    Now that’s developing your talent for a future with the big club.

    Anybody know what’s going on with Jared Tinordi?  I haven’t read or heard that he’s signed to go to Notre Dame yet.  Chances of the Hunters getting him to London grow with each passing day if he still hasn’t committed to the Irish in writing.

  40. aemarchand11 says:

    Alexandre Picard has signed a One year, two way contract.


    Go Habs Go!

  41. Bugs says:

    On the top-15 hab goals video, tree toughts (forgive my French accent): 1) appreciate the Metallica instrumental; love that one, 2) lotta sweetness came from guys called Kostitsyn…just sayin, and 3) where was my boy Poolio’s glorious leg-up super-quick backhand deflection? It was so gorgeous…

    A Svedish coach in Edmonton, can you imagine? “Ve should poot da glorbenflap in da skavoflorg, don’t yoo tink?” – “Uhhh, what?” Haw! Aaahh, Albertans. Good luck, you bath-plugs.

    Thirty wins for Theo. Why isn’t he signed? He’s the best guy in the world. He’s so terrifical. 30 wins. That’s means he’s a great, great, super great goalie, no? Why isn’t he signed? It’s a friggin mystery wrapped up in a…big, big even more mysterious mystery. I don’t understand it. 30 wins. He should be making billions. Booner, what’s up with your boy?

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  42. Mark C says:

    *I think* Montreal wanted him to leave Harvard, and Leblanc’s camp wanted something in return for leaving Harvard after only one year. You are right, if Leblanc plays junior, he won’t be getting paid, however there is one advantage, signing now means that he will use one year of his enter level contract while in junior. Getting him one year closer to his second contract without playing at the professional level, yet.   

    Great question, I’ve been trying to wrap my head around it too.

  43. saskhab says:

    Just to clarify, the error is in the headline on the Globe and Mail.  So that’s where he got it from.  Blame the intern!

  44. saskhab says:

    He’s also German, played for the German national team as a player (his son does as well). 

  45. Bill J says:

    Just speculation on my part

    But being signed by the Habs, makes Leblanc an employee of the Habs.

    & therefore he now does what THEY tell him to do.

    IE “Go play in the Q, you will develop faster there.”

    Louis: OK.

    The MTL Juniors team looks to be a very strong team, and now with Leblanc.  Will be Memorial Cup favorites to represent the Q.  Success in the Q, will make Leblanc better.

    OR he heads to the A, and plays with Avstin.   Perhaps Kristo who has played with Leblanc in the past, may join Louis in the A ?

  46. Ian Cobb says:

    Robert L.—you write a great article again. Nice research!

    Keep them coming my friend!

    Fan Summit Updates

  47. Morenz7 says:


    Not sure where you got “Swedish coach” from. Kreuger’s a Canadian, and he’d been coaching in Switzerland.

  48. Adam says:

    This video just reminds me of why the Pleks signing was absolutely necessary. Hopefully he doesn’t have to waste too much energy on the PK this year, and will have something left in the tank to pull moves like that through the playoffs.

    The video also reminded me of why AK frustrates me like babysitting a 3 year old who won’t go to bed. So much bloody potential, so many sick moves…. Where is that guy the rest of the time?

  49. Storm Man says:

    I see last night some talk about Sam Bradford and his 78 million doller contract with 50 million guaranteed. I hope he can live up to his contract but I’m looking forward to  one of these guys breaking the bank next year with a 100 million doller contract. Case Keenm out of Houston in 3 years passed for 12,950 years and 102 TD’S and out of Washington Jake Locker. Bradford’s contract will look cheap after next year’s draft.

  50. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Quick question:

    Why did the Habs sign Leblanc, was it nessasarry to get him out of Harvard? If the Juniors held his rights, couldn’t he just opt to play there? And if he does, he’s not making any money anyway, so why sign with the Habs? Wouldn’t the Habs still have his rights anyway? Now if ends up in Steeltown this year, then I understand the contract.

  51. Bill J says:

    Hamilton could end up being a STRONG young team in the AHL this season.

    Leblanc, Avstin…. Perhaps Kristo ???

    Would be great to see those 3 guys get to play together in the AHL.

    Could very well be the #1 line for Montreal in 3-4 years.

  52. HardHabits says:

    What, no comments?

  53. habs001 says:

    to have a chance to be a goal scorer in the nhl you have to experience goal scoring prior to the nhl ..leblanc will have that chance now…you have to show goal scoring ability prior to the nhl…i know many posters are in love with maxpac but if he was on any other team the same fans would laugh at the fans of that team who think maxpac can become a scorer…reality is maxpac has scored about 70 goals his last 7 years of hockey..the probabiliy of a player with this type of stats scoring at the nhl level are like winning the lotto..the expectations on maxpac are unfair…i am just wondering on what basis people think he can score goals when he has never scored at any level

  54. showey47 says:

    Maxpac was over a point/game player at every level he played before he turned pro. Including as a rookie at the university of michigan. He has had 2 pro season’s missing quite a bit of time due to injuury hence slowing down his development. How many players step out of one season of college hockey, into the ahl and score 30 plus goals as a rookie? Very,very few if any. To me,the bigger joke is the fans who want to give up on 21 year old players claiming their careers are limited based on their limited knowledge of a players history. John leclair was never a big time college goal scorer either,but i’d say his career turned out pretty well. And no,i’m not calling maxpac the next john leclair before you start twisting my post. I feel the better comparison would be erik cole,who also didn’t post big numbers in college. Another thing to consider,college players play less then half the games then players from the CHL do and they also play against players who can be up to the age of 24. Maxpacs goals at michigan pro-rated over a chl type schedule against older and better players are at least 30-35 as a rookie. Doesn’t look so bad now does it?

    To me, the problem is maxpac was rushed and should have played at least one more year of college hockey and another wjc before joining hamilton. This has been a problem with that habs organization due to it being a team that lacks some size in pretty much every position. But i now find that is now starting to change with some of the players we have drafted over the past 3 years.

  55. Puck Bard says:


  56. HardHabits says:

    Robert L is the premier Habs blogger. Indefatigably at that. I was reading Robert L long before I knew what an HIO was.

  57. Puck Bard says:

    A great piece of analysis by Robert L. A thoughtful, considered and inquisitive bit of writing. Thank you.

  58. Puck Bard says:

    Ya.  The Richard Labbé piece in La Presse is good too, the rational for a soft cap like the NBA… what’s gonna happen to all these unsigned work horses? It will be odd if guys like Kariya and Selanne hang ’em up.

  59. likehoy says:

    the only thing i don’t enjoy about Robert L’s pieces are that they are generally long winded…making it harder to digest all the details in one read.

  60. Puck Bard says:

    I hear you, but that’s actually what I like about them. I get tired of the quick “Entertainment Weekly” blips that tell you nothing.

  61. Puck Bard says:

    Boone, I really appreciate it when you point out the French media pieces as well. It helps to have that full picture of things. Thanks,

  62. likehoy says:

    not impressed by louie leblanc’s move…there isn’t a spot in the top 2 lines for the next 4 years and currently the 3rd line spot looks to be locked up by another prospect.

    what’s going to happen is that leblanc will be called up before the 2012 season…he’s going to have a couple of listless games as a fourth liner, and then the world comes crashing down (figuratively…not literally 😉 ). It’ll be tough for Louie to crack a spot in the top 2 lines a centre, and might have to try his luck as a winger to get into the top 9. He might get a chance if someone gets injured, but who would put their fate in someone else’s hands?

    He’s going to be following through the same path of one ben maxwell, but the question remains if he’s going to succeed unlike ben, or is he going to linger around just like ben?

    If I were Louie, I would have stayed at Harvard…no matter how talented or close I feel to the NHL…the reality of it is, there are 3 centres ahead of me for the top 2 lines…maybe IF next year Eller stumbles, that’s when I sign the NHL contract. Also that signed contract brings his UFA age down so we could lose him quicker…all-round mistake by the Habs and Leblanc.

  63. HardHabits says:

    I disagree. He’s a junior. I’d rather see him play a year in the Q and if he dominates move him to the AHL for the playoffs. Let him play the next year there and if he dominates then maybe bring him up to the Habs, and I say maybe, for the playoffs. So he’ll be up for 2012-13 at the earliest FT. I am tired of the Habs rushing their prospects. A year in the A did wonders for PK.

    Anyone who has watched the Habs in the 70’s and how they brought players up would probably say that Lats and Price were brought up too quick. I am still not convinced that PK should be granted let alone guaranteed a spot in the top 6, yet! Even Claude Lemieux was sent to the A after ’86’s heroics.

    17 years is a long time. Doesn’t mean I can’t wait another 2-3 years to see a really strong team skate in the CH colours. I’d rather that than see another generation of wasted youth and another 5 year plan version 3.0.

  64. Puck Bard says:

    Have you missed the movement recently on teams in the off season? A lot can happen in 4 years. If he develops there will be a place, or they will deal him for another asset. 

  65. Castor says:

    That video is sweet. Shows the talent that we forget this team has….well, two lines of it anyway.

  66. avatar_58 says:

    AK46 is a beast when he actually puts in the effort. I really hope he plays for his payday and shows what he’s truly capable of. Some of Pleks highlights prove to me his injury screwed up his playoff run. He could have been dominant.


    THE best goal probably is the one Cammy kicked up and batted in during the Pens series. A thing of beauty.

  67. J.T. says:

    Habs have apparently signed Alexandre Picard, the ex-Sens defenceman.  Twenty-five years old, good size, not a bad puck handler, but kind of soft and inconsistent.  Another left-shooting D.  I wonder if he’s meant for Hamilton or as a replacement behind a potential trade?  It’s a one-year, two-way deal.


  68. Ian Cobb says:

    Fan Summit Updates,

    Hab’s have given us lots of discounted Summit game Tickets for our past support. But I have to have them paid for shortly before they go to the general public at much higher prices. So click below and read carefully to all instructions now!

  69. showey47 says:

    Purolated the M.O. with all the required information out this morning. Should be there on tuesday. Thanks again and great job as usual Ian.

  70. likehoy says:

    i’m not saying he doesn’t need AHL time…but i don’t see the point of playing in the Q when the NCAA level is about the same and you get 1 more year of education at harvard before making the jump to the AHL…he could play in the AHL playoffs if he signs at the end of the NCAA year, similar to the situation he’s in now.


  71. likehoy says:

    a lot can happen in 4 years but we’re stuck with 7.37 million gomez and we just signed plekanec to a 5 million per year contract…

    neither are easy sells on the trade block…gomez is pretty much locked in for the next 4 years…pleks might be around for the next 2-3 years before we can consider moving him.

    maybe other pieces will move, but leblanc’s position is pretty much already locked up for the forseeable future.

    leblanc should have taken that into consideration and take his time.

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