Live tonight on RDS!

In a one-hour special, Maxim Lapierre announces where he’ll be playing this season.

Informed sources say the choice has been narrowed to Montreal or Montreal.

• Hockey’s Future assesses the Canadiens’ draft (shout-out to SeriousFan09)

• Matthias Brunet on draft-day screw-ups

• In Pat Hickey’s column, Paul Kelly defends college hockey

• A Jarred Tinordi feature at

• Four Habs Fans has home video from camp

Kovalchuk komedy kontinues

Down Goes Brown summer reruns

Glen Sather orders a pizza

• A must-read: Homophobia and Discrimination in Hockey


  1. Natrous says:

    SD – perhaps you don’t know your poop (just kidding, sort of)

    If Price signs a deal for 3 years, he’s not a UFA, he’s an RFA with arbitration eligibility. Why? Because a player cannot become a UFA until either attained age 27 or 7 years in the league. Price will be 25 and will have played 6 years in the league.

    I think he’ll sign for 3 years and something slightly less than $10M, which would put our goaltending expense at a very manageable cap hit of ~$4M

  2. SmartDog says:

    Okay then, I’d like to change my answer Alex to:

    What is 4 years and 12.75 million dollars?


    What is about 1 million/year more than the Habs could’ve had Price for?

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  3. Clay4bc says:

    And that kind of attitude is why we all “love” you, Priceberg.

    We invited him – he didn’t beg to come. Now crawl back into your hole and try to reflect on why you are wrong.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  4. Mark C says:

    First, I don’t believe the goalie situation has anything at all to do with AK46. However, under your idea of moving him for picks, and keeping both goalies, there are two big issues. Do you really believe both goalies sign in Montreal for another season like this past one? If the plan was to keep both, I think there would have been a great risk in Halak going to the KHL for a season or the Twittering Agent demanding a trade. Leading to likely getting nothing in return or a diminished return relative to what Montreal ended up with.  Also, if you kept both goalies how do you replace AK46?

    I would have been all for keeping them both, but it just wasn’t in the cards.


  5. andrewberkshire says:

    Price won’t be a UFA in 3 years, it’s 4 years.

  6. Storm Man says:

    Mike dont forget that 3 superstar egos fighting over one ball does not make a team a winner, How many times has the dream team crashed and burned?

  7. Curtoph says:

    Carey Price is still in B.C wihtout a cell phone! He’s probably white water rafting or something :p

  8. Clay4bc says:

    Dude…it’s a business. We can’t all smoke weed and listen to “Bring It On Home” all day – no matter how much we want to (I’m a huge Zep fan too, BTW)…

    People who do things like this need to prepare for such things. When I invite other teachers to Shanghai for a seminar, I make damned sure they have a translator, because I assume they can’t speak Chinese. When the habs invite someone from Russia…well, you know the rest.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  9. ed lopaz says:

    it is certainly a strange tactic;

    somebody I was with last night said that if he didn’t know better he would swear that the habs have

    no long term faith in Carey Price, and that they are ready to let him walk after this season.

    that, he said, is the only logical explanation why they would not have signed him to at least a 2 or 3 year


    How much confidence you figure Jacques Martin has in Price?

    The “coach” kept choosing Halak game after game down the stretch and then 18/19 playoff games.

    Jacques was keen for his $500,000 bonus he received once the habs made the playoffs (his contract with the

    habs is public because it was used in his divorce).

    Its a total mess!!

    As I stated previously on this site, keep both goalies, keep your strength – don’t trade it away!!

    And the money was there to do it – just had to dump a load of crap – which is all AK 46 is likely to be anyway.


  10. SmartDog says:


    After reading the response to my post below, I’m going to guess he signs for 3 years, 10 million.

    A good contract…. for Price and Price’s agent.  Why?  3 years gives job security but he comes out of it a UFA so he’ll be holding the cards AGAIN and the Canadiens will have to dance like monkey’s to keep him.  And they’ll argue that even the just ‘good’ goalies in the league make over 3 millino per year and Price is projected to be better than good. 

    I’m guessing this is pretty close.  But I’ll shake my head when I see it.  If Gauthier had signed him just before or as he traded Halak he could’ve got him for 2 years around 4 million.   Habs management…. almost like having Glen Sather at the helm!


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  11. Natrous says:

    “So then I said, ‘listen buddy, I wouldn’a flipped your grandma’s car if she hadn’a mouthed off like that'”

  12. Mr-T says:

    Geoff Molson it appears has come to the conclusion that to make the changes to the Canadians that he has envisioned requires him to supercede Boivin as President. Like many Hab fans he has observed the enigmatic transformation in the Canadians that has enamored that sense of distillation of wisdom to succeed Boivin although the proposed date is no more then a metaphor for a timetable much earlier similar to Gaineys situation. Boivin by no means has been a innocent bystander in all of this. He must be held accountable for he can not possibly have been oblivious to the lack of development of the team. You do not let other people make arbitrary decisions on the assumption that they know what they are doing. Next on Molsons list should be the subjective big three Gainey, Gauthier and Martin. There are members on this site who think that other members who verbally attack the above named persons that it is personal against these individuals as human beings or their character structure or as a family man but quite to the contrary it is from a business perspective and this is a  business and you either run it like one or file for chapter eleven. One succeeds or fails by their actions and decision skills there is no middle ground. To judge a person by their achievements is not always easy however if you look at the overall picture of Gaineys tenure as GM/Coach it can only be quantified as unsuccessful and competency becomes a mute issue now. As for Gauthier it may be premature to stipulate to what degree of direction his portfolio will trend towards. But  just only give him enough rope to hang himself. That however could be sooner rather then later as some people dispute the logic behind some of his questionable moves or lack thereof. The question about Martin and this may sound like a paradox, is that it is not about his credentials as a coach but rather is he the right one for the Canadians. A coach has to make sound rational decisions and deploy a system that gets the most productivity from his players and that he employes those assets within the concept of the team and that the potential of any player is not constrained by the system so in other words you can not be rigid as a coach to your style and the system you employ otherwise it tends to be a recipe for disaster. Is Martin the catalyst behind this concept or someone just lost in a crowd. History has proved here that it has not always wise to hire a former Canadian player as GM and/or Coach. Maybe it is time to think outside of the box and towards a younger generation. Out with the old in with the young something to think about. Stay the course Mr Molson.

  13. Clay4bc says:

    Some would say that doing so would make you a “bandwaggoner”…

    Not me – but some…



    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  14. ZepFan2 says:

    Unforgivable, really?

    The end is always near with you, eh. lol


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  15. ZepFan2 says:

    That’s funny. Some posters here would argue that that’s exactly what Price’s agent should be doing. Looking out for his client.

    When I posted how scummy Alan Walsh really is. I was given the response above.

    So which is it? Is Price’s agent a scumbag or is he like Walsh, just looking out for his client?

    As far as “holding out” is concerned. Walsh has Price’s agent beat on that front!

    “As shown in the Gaborik case, he’s ok with lengthy holdouts.”


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  16. Clay4bc says:

    Well Bob Barker…if we are a better team, and I do eat my words, at least they will taste sweet, because I am a Habs fan. Those who wished Halak gone, well…as for them, if they were wrong, their words will taste bitter indeed – because they are also habs fans, and that would mean our team sucks.

    BTW – I loved you in that movie!


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  17. Bob Barker says:

    Fischer is definitely the worst pick made by Timmins. I wonder what the Habs first round picks would have been if they followed central scouting exactly over the past few first rounds?

  18. mike g says:


    Accoring to ESPN, barring a last minute change of heart, Lebron James will be joining CB4 and D-Wade in Miami.

    I know this is a hockey site, and a small minority follow basketball. I don’t follow it, but if that happens…

    I’ll buy a jersey of the Heat. That will be one insane team.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  19. TripleX says:

    What kind of GM GIVES a player negotiating power when he previously had NONE?

    Trade away the other goalie and sign a career backup BEFORE having the starter locked up.  Scratches head!


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  20. Clay4bc says:

    …and for those of us who are linguistically challenged…

    striker Alexander Avtsin looks a bit lost at present through the 22
    hopefuls. Avtsin is still unable to communicate with teammates and
    coaches. And as the only Russian player to this development camp, nobody
    able to help. The Canadiens will try to find a translator for the next few
    days … “

    Yeah…anyone else want to tell me how good our management team is? This is unforgivable…


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  21. twocents says:

    Cause it’s usually good to have players earn their contracts with their play, at the NHL level.

    Young guys who have signed the long term second contracts are usually players who have proven a high level of play during their entry level years and usually for more than one season. Even then many sign a shorter second contract before signing to the big commit. It’s fairly common practice, with notable exceptions for exceptional performances.

    Did Boston sign Rask long term last year, just because he’s the team’s future?

    This isn’t Sidney Crosby we are talking about.

  22. Bob Barker says:

    I think you’ll be eating your words once the season starts. If not, the Habs will most definitely be a lottery team. 

  23. ed lopaz says:

    claude grioux was no ‘hidden gem” either.

    every french speaking hockey journalist in this city was writing about how the habs should take Giroux


    habs took…..wait for it….David Fisher.

    its better not to think about these things,

  24. RGM says:

    UFA status hits at age 27, so five years down the road. Any deal under five years will make Carey an RFA with arbitration rights, while 5 or more years makes him UFA at the end of it.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  25. SLONCOLD says:

    4 years 13M deal. so that’s 3.25 a year. i’ve been saying this for a few months.

     It is important to evaluate players properly and their potential. i don’t have a problem paying a 60 game starter 3M.

  26. HabFanSince72 says:

    From, if true this is staggering incompetence:


    “L’attaquant russe Alexander Avtsin a l’air un peu perdu à travers les
    22 espoirs présents. Avtsin est encore incapable de communiquer avec ses
    coéquipiers et les entraîneurs. Et comme il est le seul joueur russe
    présent à ce camp de perfectionnement, personne n’est en mesure de
    l’aider. Le Canadien tente de dénicher un traducteur pour les prochains

  27. ed lopaz says:

    Price will sign – if the negotiations go sour, he will sign for 1 year.

    if it goes well, he will sign for 3 or 4 years.

    that’s the power that has been given to him by trading Halak.

    the only power the Habs have over him is that they can FORCE a 1 year deal.

    If I’m Price, I sign for 1 year maximum, and I go out there and WIN SOME FREAKING HOCKEY GAMES!!!

    Then i come back next summer, and I say, now I deserve real money.

  28. Bob Barker says:

    If Kari Lehtonen is getting 3.55, I doubt Price will be getting less than 2.75-3. 

  29. Clay4bc says:

    They need their increasingly hysterical justifications to rationalize giving away Halak…I think they are beginning to realise the truth – that we have one goalie right now, and his name is Alex Auld.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  30. The Teacher says:

    Bite your tongue lol.

  31. TripleX says:

    Exactly.  Gainey as usual was unable to make an executive decision and gave Pleks a one year deal which in the end cost the franchise.

    I contend a GM’s primary job is asset management, which is to identify core players.  Anyone can sign players AFTER they have breakout seasons, the key is to lock them up when they are cheap.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  32. Clay4bc says:

    Ah, the memories your post conjures up…I son’t know whether to smile or punch someone…


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  33. HabFanSince72 says:

    Re: draft day screw-ups I’ve always thought that it was unfair to re-visitdraft selections with hindsight.

    However in 2007 we chose Pacioretty and Fischer ahead of David Perron, but Perron was not a hidden gem. He was ranked ahead of both of those players by central scouting.…/2007final/07_final_naskaters_num.pdf


    On the other hand, we also drafted PK in 2007.



  34. ed lopaz says:

    Exactly – its Tinordi who compared himself to Pronger “affectionately”.

    L’ancien du programme de développement américain dit affectionner le style de jeu de Chris Pronger et compare son travail à celui du joueur étoile.

    « J’aime jouer physiquement », explique Tinordi. « Je ne cède pas beaucoup d’espace devant le but et dans les coins. « Je fais également une bonne première passe. »

  35. Clay4bc says:

    I hear you, Ed…I want to win too. If the habs are going to have any chance to do that, then they’d better get off of their butts and sign Price (or any goalie) soon, because Auld is not the answer, no matter how awesome his baldness may be.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  36. Slovak says:

    Sorry but your post is too long for nothing.

    In my previous post I just said that – the same way you support the management I can disagree with them. As you don’t wait with your optimism till the season begin I don’t have to wait with my disagreements… And it is on the same level.

    So what are we talking about? I know you want to be right, maybe you are, but current behavior of HABS is telling me (personally) you are wrong. That is all.

  37. SLONCOLD says:

    if he is the teams future in nets, why sign a long term deal at anythign under 3?

  38. TripleX says:

    Halak said on Team990 just yesterday that he would have accepted the same deal as he got in St. Louis in Montreal.  In other words a 3.75 million dollar cap hit.  


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  39. kool-aid says:

    everybody sit back, relax, have a sip

  40. TripleX says:

    Why can Team990 get a hold of Halak in Slovakia and Price seems like he fell off the face of the Earth?

    If I was a journalist on HIO I would think getting an interview with Price would be awesome.  In fact an interview with ANY current roster player would be interesting, to get their input on the directions the team is taking.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  41. ed lopaz says:

    what’s the difference if Price is making 1.5; 2.0; 2.5; or 3.0 million?

    The only difference is how much gets deposited into Price’s bank account.

    The cap was raised by 2 million by the NHLPA – that money covered the raise we gave to Plekanec

    Instead of dealing AK 46 for draft picks, (that;s 3 million), the habs chose to keep him.

    Instead of investing 6 million in having THE BEST GOALTENDING DUO IN THE NHL,

    the Habs chose to keep AK 46 and “hope” that he will re-emerge as a real NHL player.

    That was their choice – 2 young, consistent, and at times fantastic goalies, or

    AK 46 in all his glory.

    I would have taken my lumps, traded AK 46 for a couple of draft picks, and KEPT MY GOALTENDING.

    But, now that its done, i don’t really care how much price gets paid.

    All I care about is winning.

    I said that last year, when we started winning with Halak in the net – I said, ALL I CARE ABOUT IN WINNING.

    I will say it this year with Price in the net – ALL THAT COUNTS IS WINNING!!



  42. Say Ash says:

    “OK, kids. Today we’re going to practice the Lappy Hat Trick: A goal, a dive and a turtle.”

  43. Clay4bc says:

    I bet we could have locked Pleks up for 5 years at $3 mil/per if we did it last season…


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  44. WarHero says:

    Last year as an RFA to the Rangers, he’ll neve make it anyway, he’s way to small.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  45. TripleX says:

    I like Burke but they hardly need another average defenseman.

    Having the defense take up nearly 28 million of cap space is a strange decision.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  46. Clay4bc says:

    He’s a little young to retire…that would be a surprise.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  47. cautiousoptimist says:

    I’d love to see Gauthier make a play for Willie Mitchell — big, strong, reliable defensive defenceman who earned $3.5M last year, and who the Canucks just can’t afford and don’t need with their stellar D.  If we can pick him up and deal Hamrlik for a pick and a prospect, I’ll be thrilled.  And we’ll have a bit more cap space. 

    1. – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  48. Clay4bc says:

    You’re preaching to the choir…


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  49. Ian Cobb says:

    Local reports that Maxim Lapierre might announce his retirement to peruse coaching career. This is coming from one person. Not sure if he is smoking funny stuff or not. Any news on this in town there??

  50. TripleX says:

    Does not really explain the one year deals.  Why would any franchise decide to purposely use up MORE cap space in the following years?

    This management team has consistently failed to identify roster players and proceed to lock them up long term at reasonable cap hits.  They procrastinate until they are left with two options, let the player walk for nothing or sign to inflated deals.

    To have a process where players are signed only after having good seasons is a recipe for cap disaster.

    ps I agree about Pyatt deserving a raise….wonder how he feels about Pouliot getting a 500,000 dollar raise



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  51. twocents says:

    On a one year contract I think the number would be lower. Something like 1.7. If he signs multi-year it goes up as he potentially commits years where he may have more negotiation leverage.

    I would like to see a 2 year deal at 1.8 million. 1.7 this year. 1.9 next.

    If he goes 4 years, I suspect your 2.25 is a reasonable target.

    Where it gets tricky is if he goes more than 4. Here he would be giving up UFA years. Under that circumstance I find it hard to predict. Will the security be more heavily valued or the loss of autonomy?

  52. mike g says:

    Someone on HIO a few days ago posted something very intelligent…

    He figured out how much Halak will actually earn from his salary, after taxes and stuff. Then he compared how much of Halak’s current contract would be taxed here in Quebec, due to the higher tax rates of course…

    It’s estimated that for Halak to bring home the same amount of money after taxes, his 4 year 15 million$ deal in STL would have had to be a 4 year 19 million$ deal here in MTL…

    That’s 4.75 mill per year for Jaro. Kind of a steep pricetag if you ask me.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  53. SlovakHab says:

    I think so. And after leading the Leafs to another Cup in 2011, he won’t be able to hear me completely.

  54. HabFanSince72 says:

    In fairness to RDS, it is Tinordi  who compared himself to Pronger.


  55. Slovak says:

    Ok I must say that is good. But anyway I still think management is not helping – according to history HABS deserve to be one step higher – and I see no decision from current management in order to get higher…

  56. SlovakHab says:

    I have been Habs fan for years. Have seen some bad teams and the improvement made over the years. Last season was successful because the management has done some good judgement and improved the team further.

    Now, you are very bitter that we didn’t keep Jaro Halak and didn’t sign him for the future. You keep coming back and back, criticizing the management all the time. As if you would do better as a Habs GM.

    I am glad Jaro got a good contract and will certainly improve the Blues. But I have seen many young goalies shine and then later fail. We are also yet to see what the small equipment, 60-game schedule and a pressure that comes with being a clear no.1 goalie does to him. 

    “Don’t blindly support anyone’s mistake” is a BS. Because we don’t know if trading Halak was a mistake (it is clear that this is your main complaint). If it was, then all of us will be disappointed and will have a point to criticize. But will never look like idiots for trusting people with experience for doing a ballsy decision.

    Those who criticize others without seeing the results have always been, and always will be <strike>idiots</strike> fools in my eyes. Especially if they have no experience, no clue on salary cap and other things going on in the dressing room + agent behaviour, no track record of a successful career in hockey and are only driven by their national feelings when it comes to the NHL.

  57. Clay4bc says:

    It’s funny that the Price crew here railed so much on Jaro’s agent…but look who’s signed, and for quite a reasonable rate too! Now who in the heck is Price’s agent? Isn’t it time for people to start calling him out for the greedy POS he is? Why are the negotiations taking so long? How much money does Price realistically think he’s worth? I say $1.5 million tops. When will he sign? Is he going to hold out for the season to get more money? This is turning into a bad joke. A back-up goalie  (Price) holding out for more money…just let him walk and sign someone else then.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  58. Mark C says:

    You might be right about Halak, but the reality is no one knows how he would have reacted to the prospects of another season battling Price for playing time. Also, his agent needs to be factored in at some point. Any agent, and this is not an inditment of Halak’s, would be wise to cash in on Halak’s great pasted season.  Agents while always shotting for the moon are realistic, Halak’s value is likely to never be greater than this off-season, therefore its in Halak’s and his agents best interest to gain a long-term deal now. Being awarded a one year deal with Price in the mix is far far away from being ideal. Even the biggest cockeyed Halakien optismist is likely to conside that Halak is unlikely to replicate last seasons successes.

    I agree that AK46 is 10 games away from the dog house, but like it is everywhere, he by the same token 10 games away from being a legit top 6 forward. As fans we shouldn’t lose sight that he was again on a 20 goal pace last year, while average less than 16 minutes a game. 20 Goals puts AK46 in the top 100 goal scorers league wide, there are 180 top 6 forwards in the leauge, in a sense.

    Why should the Habs less repects because they do not plan on selling low on AK 46?*. Montreal, as it stands has just 4 established and dependible top 6 forwards. I can’t disagree more that there is someone ready currently in the line-up or in Hamitlton that could replace AK46.  

    * Who knows if management plans on moving him or not, I’m not in these meetings.

  59. HabFanSince72 says:

    Locke is a career AHLer.

  60. The Teacher says:

    The smart ones would be at University at the same time. However, not all of them are smart. Are they getting the proper advice from people around them and the organization they play for? I don’t know the answer to that.


    all things equal, is playing CHL and getting a degree > playing University hockey and getting a degree with regards to a prospective NHL career?


    I would say yes!

  61. TripleX says:

    From Wikipedia:

    In the 2007–08 season, Corey played his fourth consecutive season with the Bulldogs. Scoring at almost a point-per game average with Hamilton, Locke finally made his NHL debut, playing 1 game with Montreal on January 8, 2008.[1] On July 11, 2008, Locke was traded by the Canadiens to theMinnesota Wild for Shawn Belle.[2] Unable to make the Wild’s opening night roster for the 2008–09 season, he was re-assigned to the Houston Aeros, leading the team to the West Conference finals with 23 points


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  62. mike g says:

    Summer 2010, one to remember for many reasons…..

    -The Blackhawks win the Cup, and then blow up their team.

    -Ilya Kovalchuk signed his 10 year 100 billion$ deal in August, with the Ducks, after they agreed to pay him in gifts like 140 boats, 72 Ferrari’s, a house in each State (including Alaska), and the star role in a 2-hour TV special called ” How to go from dirt poor to owning more money than all of Canada put together”. And btw, they figured out a way to make his cap hit a mere 1.2 million.

    -Lebron James shocked the world live on ESPN on July 8th. He announced he was signing a 45 year deal with the Vancouver Grizzlies. That’s right, they came back to the NBA. Steve Nash finished his career there, and the Grizzlies along with Lebron, met Bosh+Wade and the Heat for 7 straight years in the finals. Lebron’s deal was worth 178 million dollars, and included full ownership of the franchise once he retired.

    -RDS on July 8th: “Tinordi, un futur Chris Pronger?” When are those dummies ever gonna learn that it’s dumb articles and pressure that kill the Habs’ prospects? I can say so many more negative things about that article, but nevermind…

    - Finally, Holy crap is f’kin hot here in MTL. My girlfriends pool was 100 degrees yesterday. We cooked pasta and corn in it.

    Anyways, those are just a few things about this summer…Still 2 months to go!

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  63. The Teacher says:

    And you ignored the main tenet of the article. Did Fischer obtain a DEGREE and therefore can move forward in his life without hockey, if need be?

  64. twocents says:

    Shawn Belle. 2 summers ago.

    Locke has since been with 2 other organizations. The Senators are his forth.

  65. The Teacher says:

    I think he is feeling disheartened by the fact that there are not more than 2-3 teams bidding for his services. Welcome to a Cap-cap world.

  66. Clay4bc says:

    Knowing our recent history of getting nothing in return for assets, we likely just let him go…not that I missed him or anything – I didn’t even notice he was gone –  but it fits with the trend.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  67. WarHero says:

    The CAP is the reson for most of the 1 years. Since we’ll have more cap next year we’ll be able to reward players like Tom Pyatt who actually had to take a decrease this year eventhought he did not deserve it.



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  68. The Teacher says:

    When I head about the proceeds going to the Boys and Girls Club of America, I wasn’t bothered anymore. Does it mean I will watch, nahhhhhh.

  69. Rugger says:

    How many more years till Carey changes from RFA to UFA?  Hopefully new contract would end when he is still RFA (even with arbitration) to make it somewhat more likely he will then be signed long term.

  70. The Teacher says:

    I think his Stanley Cup ring might be blocking one of his ears so he probably didn’t hear you :)

  71. The Teacher says:

    Personal opinion- Who cares!

  72. Chuck says:

    I passed up an opportunity to head up to Ottawa to see them last night, since I thought that I had tickets for tonight. Then a call from my friend this morning saying that he forgot to order them… now everything is sold out.  :(


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  73. HFX-HabFan says:

    I’m a tad bored, so I went and looked it up.  Montreal is one of only 8 teams in the league to make it past the first round 3 or more times in the last 6 years.  Of those other 7, only Detroit and San Jose have done it more than three times:

    Montreal (04,08,10), Pittsburgh (08,09,10), Philadelphia (04,08,10),  in the East

    Detroit (04,07,08,09,10), San Jose (04,06,07,08,10), Vancouver (07,09,10), Anaheim (06,07,09) and Colorado (04,06,08) in the West

  74. The Teacher says:

    I agree this trend of giving one-year contracts is not impressing me. I also agree that giving Price more than 2.25 million would be giving too much. We have shown faith in him(management) and he should reward us with a 4-year 8-9 million dollar deal.


    Keep in mind, if he gets more than that, I won’t hate PRICE for it and slag him incessantly. I will not be very appreciative of management if they are not wise with their money.

  75. SmartDog says:

    The Sens just signed Corey Locke to a 2-year 2-way contract.  When did we lose Locke and for what/who?  I forget.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  76. secretdragonfly says:

    These updates are informative and much appreciated. 

  77. Storm Man says:

    Im not surprised with Schultz at all what he is going to bring to this team is something we have been missing for sometime.

  78. likehoy says:

    hey guys back from camp…this is what i’ve noticed (I missed the dmen portion, so I didn’t see tinordi/subban/weber)

    Palushaj: Best player there, smooth and very quick skater and was the best skater in all the drills. good shot, excellent passing and dangles during the free skate portion…downside is that he doesn’t look tough (no contact drills but just didn’t look it)

    Engqvist: smooth skater going forward…a bit of trouble skating backwards. didn’t watch him shoot.

    Eller: excellent skater…looks pretty big for his 6’1 stature…looks a little bigger and wider. Has an accurate shot, but not very fast, didn’t show off too much

    Schultz: was a surprise, he had the best shot in the camp for sure. 

    Westin: can’t shoot…failed a drill 4 times, pretty embarrassing

    Robert Mayer: he’ll be the number 1 goalie in the NHL next year, he will make us forget about halak’s heroics!.

    Tryout candidates:

    Brunelle: can’t skate, actually fell one of the drills

    Brisebois; can’t skate, can’t do cross overs at all


    Video to come later tonight

  79. ed lopaz says:

    who stood out as the HARDEST WORKER?

    I have attended many of these camps back over the years, over at Martin Lapointe Arena in Ville St Pierre,

    and jacques Lemaire in Lasalle,

    and I always looked for the work ethic guys – the guys that didn’t stop – looked like they ere ready to out work everyone.

    Those are the real prospects. The HARD WORKERS!!


  80. SeriousFan09 says:

    Did you get a look at Gallagher? I’m really interested to see what he looks like.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  81. Garry Bettman says:

    Me, obviously.

    I am, after all, trying to destroy the Habs.

    (And all other Canadian teams too, except Toronto. I’ve hired Burke to take care of ‘em for me.)

  82. Bugs says:

    I doubt a rinky-dink poster what can’t even spell the commissioner’s name right is any threat at all to the Habs.

    Hope I didn’t spoil your mojo though…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  83. Curtoph says:

    I think he’s probably just still hanging out in B.C, with out a cellphone?

  84. ManApart says:

    C’mon bro, the guy is the worst one on here. Just off the deep end. His statements and beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with reality. The Habs have never done any move that was below outstanding. Every player on the team is the greatest in the league and the team itself is pretty much the best in the league. if you don’t see Ian is out there, then you’re lying. My point is, that even though he’s like this, I’m respectful when I speak with him.

  85. crabvader says:

    This just means you talk behind his back. That’s being a jerk. 

  86. crabvader says:

    I know.

    I’m just taking a crack at Walsh. :P

  87. The Cat says:

    You know I dont agree. When I said Boston would be better than Montreal and would top the East two years ago before the season started, I was treated like garbage basically, mind you thats a bold prediction and not a tiny one, but yeah when it turned out I was right, I had more than earned my right to let them know about it.

  88. ZepFan2 says:

    What you said about Ian, makes you a class A jerkwad.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  89. ManApart says:

    Look, Halak would have gotten under 4 million , as I stated, and no bs excuse explanations would change that. You were off in your thinking, no biggie. like I said it’s not the first time. Maybe 3rd time in the last 3 weeks, in regards to opposing my statements. As far as 100 points lol, you’ll be hearing from me on that one, you can be sure.

  90. crabvader says:

    That has nothing to do with objectivity.

    You can understand that it’s reasonable for Habs fans to react in such a way, seeing as this is a HABS forum and you are predicting that one of their biggest rivals, the Bruins, are going to finish 1st.

    You are 100% entitled to make this opinion, but don’t expect everyone to be ecstatic that you are picking their arch-rivals to finish #1 on a Habs forum.

    Come on Cat, you really want to be the one to tell everyone to eat crow because THAT prediction panned out?

    Are you that maniacal?

  91. ManApart says:

    I said it harshly, but when it comes to the Habs, it is 100% true. To get a genuine word out of the bunch of you is impossible. Probably why I have no respect for you. Too much BS and lies and hypocricy

  92. The Cat says:

    I can see disagreement but some of the ‘gang-mocking’ was a bit much.

  93. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think Andrei has either and if he did, I doubt he’d have left them in Belarus for the last 5 years he’s been in NA.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  94. JIMVINNY says:

    I believe she’s Canadian anyways, and he kid most certainly is.

  95. Harani says:

    He actually has a wife and a baby girl who have apparently been with him since early this year. Here is a Pic

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  96. ManApart says:

    Hey smart guy, told you so about Halak’s contract. Next time, when I speak, you listen :) Next up, how much is PG going to overpay Scarey Price? I say around 2.5 million/year.

  97. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ah did not know that, didn’t think any of the younger guys on the roster had gotten into the family life yet.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  98. TripleX says:

    His wife is named Tatiana and is Russian.  The daughter Valeriyey was born in Russia.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  99. andrewberkshire says:

    He does have a wife, and as far as I know she hasn’t come over here yet. Pretty sure he was married before he played in Hamilton.

  100. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yes, because if a player signs for a certain $ amount in one city means they’ll do it in another. I mean no one ever does that in pro sports.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  101. andrewberkshire says:

    Wow! Your superiority complex knows no bounds. Calm down Aragorn.

  102. ManApart says:

    Not sure what you’re talking about, we were talking about how much Halak would sign for, you were wrongly speculating, as usual, that the Habs couldn’t afford 5 mil a year, I said he wouldn’t get a penny over 4. You went on to talk nonsensical, again as usual, and I said we’ll see. Well there you go. it seems everytime we have a difference in opinion, my view turns out to be a lot closer to the truth than yours. Big surprise. Don’t worry, you make more sense than most of the moron regulars around here anyway.

  103. ManApart says:

    I’m very calm. It’s just fun to see all you talking heads end up being wrong and looking kind of dumb, time after time. There is a group of about 10 or 15 people on here (a huge minority thank God), that are completely out of whack most of the time and I get a kick out of making fun of their irrational, super biased ways. If they are going to critisize my valid arguements or statements to the extreme, you bet when they are shown to be wrong, I will bring it up, in the hope they learn to use their head instead of their yaps next time :)

  104. SeriousFan09 says:

    There is no guarantee he would sign here for that amount. 3.75 million in St. Louis is a lot more money than 3.75 in MTL with taxes, he and his agent could easily have asked for more based on that alone. I spoke of him costing 4-5 million per year and even than, I was off by 250k from my ranged estimate. Also, you’re not right every time you drop your ‘you’re all morons and only I can be right’. I’m pretty sure you were on the doom-and-gloom squad that said 09-10 would be an unmitigated disaster with MTL in lottery position and the team wouldn’t do anything in the playoffs.

    But tell yourself whatever you like if it makes you feel better.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  105. andrewberkshire says:

    So you’ve never been wrong? About anything? The bottom line is that none of us here are employed by the NHL, and most of us are wrong a majority of the time about everything we say. It’s fun to get it right once in awhile, but pointing out that other people got something wrong like you’re the infallible god of HIO and hockey predictions in general is so pompous I don’t know where you get off making fun of anyone.

  106. crabvader says:

    Not everyone is going to be right 100% of the time. I’m not right, Andrew’s not right and…wait… brace your ego for this: YOU aren’t right, all of the time.

    Who cares?

    All I can imagine is you gazing into your mirror hours on end, admiring yourself. You really are egomaniacal.

    What’s worse is that you are a jerk. Try treating people with respect and see how far that takes you.

    It’s easy to respect someone who is respectable.

  107. ManApart says:

    LOL. Desperate and sad you are still trying to wriggle out of being wrong. Don’t be ashamed, it certainly isn’t the first time. Halak said on Marinaro’s interview yesterday, the same deal could have gotten it done in Montreal. And your statement was “5 million”, not 4 to 5. No lying now. I was always saying Montreal would be a bubble team, which they were, and only if Halak was given the #1 spot, would Montreal have a chance at playoffs. Thought I was pretty spot on. Montreal will be a bubble team once again next season, with a better chance of missing the playoffs than not. Quote me on that. I say they finish 9th in the conference and around 18 th overall. Also Price has a very average year and the whole city calls for management and Price’s head come April.

  108. ManApart says:

    I don’t generally point out when people get things wrong, as I also do so from time to time. Only when there are big talkers, who act a certain way and aren’t keeping it real, will I bring it up, just so they maybe think twice about talking nonsense in the future. I don’t even dislike Seriousfan, he’s not bad, he just IMO, isn’t very rational and is very biased a lot of the time.

  109. crabvader says:

    But most would consider his opinion on hockey a million times before they do yours.

    SF might be combative at times but he knows his team inside and out (no pun intended). At least he pays attention to our prospect system, contracts, staff, the whole 9.

    All you’ve done so far is bicker with anyone you don’t seem to particularly like.

  110. andrewberkshire says:

    And to prove him “wrong” you’re quoting an after the fact interview where in all likelihood Halak isn’t being honest.

    If Halak took the same deal in Montreal, with escrow payments and Quebec taxes his average take-home salary in that 4 year deal would be 1.35 million. In Missouri it’s likely closer to 2.3 or more. No way in hell he takes that deal in Montreal, he’s not stupid.

  111. ManApart says:

    You don’t even know the background to anything, so commenting on it, is ignorant and off base. I respect those who speak genuinely and rationally. Those who try to call me a Leaf fan or whatnot, for speaking the truth, as I see it, don’t get such treatment, sorry. Did you ever see the way I spoke to guys like Chris or Smartdog or even a complete delusional like Ian? I speak honostly, but not like a jerk. I speak like a jerk to the other people who speak like jerks.

  112. crabvader says:

    In all fairness, Halak might’ve… but we’re talking about a guy who has Ian Walsh as his agent.


  113. crabvader says:

    Lol, you dismantle your own argument by calling Ian “a complete delusional”.

  114. ManApart says:

    Here’s the kind of garbage I’m talking about. The man said the same deal would get it done and that was exactly the market value for him. So he’s a liar and the market doesn’t apply to the Habs. I’m not sure how all the taxes work, I’ve heard from another guy on here, who’s friend works for the Alouettes, that it doesn’t work that way. So I’ll take Halak’s word himself over yours, if you don’t mind.

  115. andrewberkshire says:

    Allan Walsh.

    As for Halak, I highly doubt he’d take such a low payout without an absolute guarantee Price was gone, and I doubt they would trade Price either way.

  116. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well if he said it in a radio interview it must be true. I mean no one ever stretches the truth about these things or would say they planned on squeezing the management for extra money from the team they just left… Why is it that whenever an ex-player gives an interview, what they say is the absolute truth and they can’t possibly be lying? I stated multiple times that Halak would likely be in the 4-5 million range as a contract as well, I didn’t just blanket statement saying 5 million per year every time I discussed a Halak deal.

    Montreal will only be a bubble team if they’re missing most of their best players for long stretches next season, healthy the 09-10 Habs were easily good for another 12 points. I’ll call 100 points for MTL or better with the improved forward depth, team cohesion and Subban to boost our puck mobility.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  117. andrewberkshire says:

    I don’t mind at all.

    However the fact remains that Price wasn’t going to get traded, no matter what. With a player worth that much it makes no sense to sell low. So Halak wasn’t going to sign here. He can say whatever he wants on an interview with team990, but it’s completely irrelevant after the fact.

  118. The Cat says:

    I meant a worthy member of the forum, you have good posts Ed.

  119. mike g says:

    Not a big fan of Jim Kelly, but he wrote a very interesting article on Bob Probert….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  120. punkster says:

    1. Yes, definitely the most BORRRRRRRRRRING day  E V E R !!!!!

    2. Not in a zillion years. The Halak camp will make sure of that.

    3. I love cop-outs. Worked in the corporate world for years. Cop-outs are de rigueur in the office. (Fact is SD this is a multiple question requiring thought and IT’S TOO FREAKIN HOT FOR THOUGHT….SOMEONE TURN ON THE HOSE FFS!!!!)

    4. Personally I will likely regret the egg salad sandwichs I made for dinner tonight. Egg salad. On a 34C day. What was I thinking?

    5. Bar Rafaeli

    6. Over Bar Rafaeli? What, you joshin’ me here man?


  121. SeriousFan09 says:

    Still can’t believe he didn’t get Rookie of the Year in the AHL, those stats as a defencemen and he was named a 1st-Team All-Star, meaning they considered him one of the two best defencemen in the AHL.

    Congrats to P.K, this kid’s trophy shelf needs more room again.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  122. crabvader says:

    So Fischer and McDonagh are the basis of this argument?

    Go look at other teams’ draft records and see how many busts they’ve had in the first round around our usual position in the draft (15-25).


  123. ed lopaz says:

    what argument?

    you asked about Thimmens and i answered your question.

  124. Bugs says:

    Over/under the number of goals for the Artiste this year: 24.5.

    Call it.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  125. Max_a_million says:

    I was excited for free agency, but this has to be the worst free agency period ever.  For the entire league, how boring.


    ”Last season we couldn’t win at home and we were losing on the road. My failure was that I couldn’t think of any place else to play.” – Harry Neale

  126. crabvader says:

    I see. I was responding to the original thread being that “all of our 1st rounders” were gone.

    When you mentioned Fischer and McDonagh, sounded to me like there was some contempt and I thought you might’ve been holding that in context with zak’s statement.

    My bad.

  127. Storm Man says:

    Who is Thimmens???

  128. crabvader says:

    Assuming Spezza stays or Spezza goes? Does it matter?

  129. Max_a_million says:


  130. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I was curious – every so often I’ll see someone refer to Pierre Dagenais as an example of a player who should not be emulated. What’s the deal with this? I seem to remember him as a middling player on a middling team (right before Theodore became a superstar). Was there some kind of story here?

  131. HardHabits says:

    Don’t make me bring out my tank avatar!!

  132. crabvader says:

    Blame Lebron Kovalchuk.

    He’s holding up the entire market as far as trades and signings go.

  133. Storm Man says:

    Who cares….. Next it will be how many losses the H-word get with the Blues. Lets talk about players who are on this team.

  134. TripleX says:


    Over!  He had 4 PP goals last season that is a HUGE aberration and with Gonchar setting his one timers up it is a guarantee.  PLUS he is in a contract year and we all know what that means.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  135. crabvader says:

    Thank you. That just never gets old, haha!

  136. crabvader says:

    Hmmm, big guy, slow as hell, missed the net a lot, never gave a decent effort.

    That about sums him up.

  137. SeriousFan09 says:



    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  138. TripleX says:

    We all know your opinion on ex players since you repeat it endlessly dude.

    If you have no interest in the thread just spare us your enlightened opinions.  No need to insult the topic or the one who starts it.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  139. ZepFan2 says:

    “No need to insult the topic or the one who starts it.”


    I guess you don’t practice what you preach much?!



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  140. pmaraw says:

    so how about getting that #1 signed already???  is anyone else concerned?

  141. crabvader says:

    As long as there isn’t any imminent time limit, no.

  142. The Cat says:

    Under…He must be close to 40 years old now?

  143. fbkj says:

    i think there should be a rule that if his pic doesnt show up in a google image search, then the nickname never stuck


  144. TripleX says:

    Now you are acting like an irrational troll dude.  Go for a walk or take your girl to the beach.  Chill.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  145. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Was there some kind of personal failing too?

  146. crabvader says:

    I can’t wait for the day when Ian Schultz makes the jump and stamps his fist into Phaneuf’s face.

  147. The Cat says:

    Hey heres a joke I just read that I thought was pretty good…

    A teenage boy had just passed his driving test and inquired of his
    father as to when they could discuss his use of the car.

    His father said he’d make a deal: ‘You bring your grades up from a C to a B average, study your Bible a little, and get your hair cut. Then we’ll talk about the car.’

    The boy thought about that for a moment, decided he’d settle for the offer, and they agreed on it.

    After about six weeks his father said, ‘Son, you’ve brought your grades up and I’ve observed that you have been studying your Bible, but I’m disappointed you haven’t had your hair cut.

    The boy said, ‘You know, Dad, I’ve been thinking about that, and I’ve noticed in my studies of the Bible that Samson had long hair, John the Baptist had long hair, Moses had long hair…and there’s even strong evidence that Jesus had long hair.’

    – his father replied, ‘Did you also notice they all walked everywhere they went? lol

  148. Storm Man says:

    Your the only one on here who repeats things on here endlessly and that is a fact. Also you have a very bad habit calling everyone dude…. Time for you to hit the beach and hang ten.

  149. SeriousFan09 says:

    You mean Tinordi? What’s the rush, we have his rights for four years if he attends Notre Dame, 2 if he plays in the OHL and even then, we didn’t sign our top prospect Subban until last summer. Teams don’t immediately sign their 1st-rounders unless they are expected to play the NHL this year. Leblanc hasn’t signed a deal yet either I would point out.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  150. crabvader says:

    I don’t think so.

    He just seemed like a dissinterested guy. We all know how popular guys like that are in Montreal.


  151. mike g says:

    What’s better than a rose on a piano?

    Lips on an organ.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  152. ZepFan2 says:

    Why, because I’m right?

    You have no qualms about insulting others, yet you feel the need to chastise others for the same thing.

    Practice what you preach, kid.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  153. kmachabs27 says:

    carey price… a little worried to right now.

  154. TripleX says:

    PK Suban explains why he is attending development camp.  You have to love his attitude and maturity.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  155. fbkj says:

    dont let tony read this his nose may bleed

  156. The Cat says:

    PK Subban is the best. Hes going to be a superstar in the NHL.

  157. mike g says:

    Thanks to a link posted below, I went on another 20 minute Youtube roadtrip, and found these insane clips…

    All I can say is, WOW.


  158. Storm Man says:

    Thanks my eyes are open now on why TripleX is the way he is. He is the kid in the first clip this clears things up.

  159. mike g says:

    This is what happend when this city was torn between Carey Price and Jaro Halak…

    Now we know why one had to go.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  160. andrewberkshire says:

    Under, he’s still not interested in playing for Ottawa. He’ll score 16 goals, 6 against Montreal.

  161. Bugs says:

    Takes special talent to ruin a two-line joke.

    TULIPS on the organ, goofball.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  162. ZepFan2 says:


    That’s a classic!!

    Now THAT merits a ROFL.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  163. namgel says:

    I got into a discussion with a Leafer the other day and he bet me the Leafs will finish higher than the Habs this year. 

    The wager is a case of beer.  Non Domestic.

    Question is

    What should I get ?

  164. Bugs says:

    Can’t believe no one brought up Gonchar…

    Y’all are slippin, mates!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  165. SmartDog says:



    The main item on TSN is headlined “Why Not Canada?” and is about why we couldn’t have a 7th team up here.  Skip it. The WHOLE article is about whether Toronto should have a 2nd team.

    TSN guys!  Get your fat heads out of your fatter asses!  Dumbasses. 

    The only one dumber than the stupids that work at TSN would be Gary Bettman who says “we haven’t looked at that option”.  Wow.  Proclaiming ignorance is something I look for in a 4-foot tall leader.  Now I see why he has the job. 

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  166. andrewberkshire says:

    You should have bet as much money has he has, because it’s pretty much guaranteed that he’ll lose.

  167. TripleX says:

    Newcastle Brown Ale….I steal as much as I can from my dad.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  168. namgel says:

    A new nhl franchise in the GTA would immediately become my Second Favourite Team.


  169. Storm Man says:

    Red Stripe or Steinlager.

  170. likehoy says:

    get domestic…molson M = awesome.

  171. alestar says:

    Does micro-brewery beer count? Get some Mill Street…they’re all good.


    XXIV…and counting

  172. Puck Bard says:

    Sorry to talk you down from the ledge SD, but TSN has been running all the coverage on the Globe’s multi-part series on prospective Canadian cities:

  173. andrewberkshire says:

    Let’s bring it back to the old days of HIO for a minute, with the current roster, including AHL players and prospects, what are your ideal lines for next season?

  174. TripleX says:




    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  175. HabFanSince72 says:

    I presume Quebec counts as non-domestic to a Leafer. I recommend a Dieu du Ciel sampler.

    If not, then check out New Hampshire’s Smutty Nose brewery.


  176. HabFanSince72 says:

    HA HA.


  177. punkster says:

    Hilarious Rob!


  178. SmartDog says:

    Well then never-freakin-mind!

    (They’re still a-holes.)

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  179. WarHero says:

    That’s only part 1, there will be 6 parts. Other cities and locations will be discussed.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  180. likehoy says:

    cammy – pleks – AK

    poupou – gomez – gionta

    eller – trotter – pacioretty

    pyatt – lapierre – moen



    Markov – O’byrne

    Spacek – Subban

    Gill – Gorges



    Robert Mayer

    Carey Price

  181. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yes. Partied with Ribeiro and Theo too much.

    It didn’t affect him but it probably hastened the other two’s departure.


  182. avatar_58 says:

    Wasn’t someone complaining about Subban at camp?



    Funny, seems like it doesn’t bother him and he knows his place.

  183. HabFanSince72 says:

    Most likely under, but I’m always surprised at how much Hab so-called fans have turned on Kovy.

    He was a good one.




  184. Habsrule1 says:

    Ed, seems you get upset about the facts concerning Price.


    He’s bigger.

    He’s stronger

    He’s younger.

    He’s cheaper.

    The rest is still up in the air, but many very astute hockey minds believe he will also be better. Let’s cheer for him cause he’s a Hab and wait and see.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  185. avatar_58 says:

    lol damnit, I just posted this because I didn’t see your post. :D

  186. jbroderi says:

    since the islanders are a ways from the minimum payroll, would there be any interest for them in bringing in a guy like Hamrlik for a mid to high round pick?  He is still a good, solid guy and a great team guy who may work well with some of the younger islanders.  More importantly though, it would clear cap sapce for us, even if we don’t use it right away.

    the only issue with that might be markov not being ready for the start of the season.  maybe send ak46 along with him and grab kovalchuk, but i don’t think that’ll happen.





    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  187. jbroderi says:

    since the islanders are a ways from the minimum payroll, would there be any interest for them in bringing in a guy like Hamrlik for a mid to high round pick?  He is still a good, solid guy and a great team guy who may work well with some of the younger islanders.  More importantly though, it would clear cap sapce for us, even if we don’t use it right away.

    the only issue with that might be markov not being ready for the start of the season.  maybe send ak46 along with him and grab kovalchuk, but i don’t think that’ll happen.



    any thoughts?


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  188. andrewberkshire says:

    I really like the inclusion of Trotter, but I’m confused by Mayer.

  189. likehoy says:

    lol just trying to start another goalie controversy!

    I think Trotter deserves a shot, and we need offensive depth

  190. TripleX says:

    That chick from Team990 just had her report from the development camp.

    She was most impressed with Eller and said he looked ready to make a move up to the big club.  Also that Palushaj was a room mate of Eller at one time and was playing with an edge at camp.

    Alexander Avtsin was not seen and she does not know what is up with that.

    Really pumped about PK says he is so well spoken and humble about his success.  She also said he understands he has a lot to learn and is setting his goals realistically for the coming season.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  191. jbroderi says:

    gionta  gomez  AK46

    Cammy Pleks  Pouly

    lapierre   Ellar   Moen/maxpac

    pyatt   boyd   darche

    markov  obyrne

    subb  spacek

    gill  gorges




    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  192. andrewberkshire says:

    Haha! Don’t start that again!

    I also think Trotter deserves a solid chance. He’s not soft by any means, and he has a nose for the net.

  193. The Cat says:

    Get some Old Milwaukee light: since youll probably be the one buying it at least youll save a few bucks.

  194. smiler2729 says:

    Anybody else have the feeling that the Habs will surprize next season despite what the TSN, RDS, Sportsnet, Hockey News “experts” and all the negative nancies here predict?

    I do.

  195. jbroderi says:

    over.. i think he’ll get 25.  if he keeps to his pattern of playing decent every second year, then this is it!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  196. likehoy says:

    if trotter makes the team, BG looks like a genius…and that guy who blamed the habs for not signing wheeler and ending up with trotter will look like a chump.

  197. The Cat says:

    Wanna bet? ;)

  198. GrimJim says:
    • Cammy – Pleks – AKost
    • Gio-Gomez – Pouliot
    • Moen – Boyd – Laps
    • Pyatt – Eller – White

    Trotter and Darche alt. I think Avtsin would benefit from a year in the A regardless of how he looks in training camp, just as PK did. If Eller shows promise, I might try him on the wing of one of the top two lines, espcially if Benny or AK underperform and move Trotter to 4th line centre.

    • Markov – O’B
    • PK – spacek/Hammer
    • Gorges – Hammer/Gill/spacek

    I wouldn’t put PK and Markov on the same pair because then the other two pairs don’t have a strong puck-moving d-man. I would also platoon the three older d-men (spacek/Hammer/Gill) to rest them more so they are fresher at the end of the seaon. If Markov can’t go at the start then I would go with PK-Spacek, Hammer-O’B, Gill-Gorges with Weber 7th.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  199. mike g says:

    Ok relax there buddy…

    It’s a mistake. What are you, the “internet spelling correction agency” or something?


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  200. The Cat says:

    I think Minnesota will be the team with the biggest progression next year.

  201. namgel says:

    Typical Leafer recommends Buck a Beer.  Domestic means North American numb nutz.  Aim higher even if you team can’t.

  202. SLONCOLD says:

    in regards to bigger and stronger….. a 6’3” in butterfly doesn’t cover that much more room. shoulders are about an inch higher. being square to the shooter in prooper position is more of an concern for a goalie than 3 inches when you’re standing up. stronger, he’s not a d man battling in the corner, i don’t think his bench press is going to help him make saves. further more, an important part of goaltending( i play the position by the way and am 5’11”) is speed/agility/ antisipation.

    my point here is the things you mention don’t make him a better goalie at all. alex auld has all the things u mentioned except his is older.


  203. SmartDog says:


    1. Is this the most boring hockey day EVER at HIO?  Or at least since the end of June?

    2. Is Eller going to be good enough to make almost everyone agree that the Halak deal was worth it given tough choices?

    3. Does it suck that we have to let go of a guy like Moore for a cheaper replacement in someone like Boyd to save a million or so in cap room (who’s unlikely to give us what Moore did)?  And is that an issue with Moore?  An issue with Gauthier?  With the kind of contracts that Habs have waded into?  Or is it ‘just the way it is’ (even if that’s a COMPLETE cop-out).

    4. Will we regret letting Moore go?  Or will our depth lines be okay this year?

    5. Of the free agents who signed this past week, who would you most like to have picked up?

    6. BONUS QUESTION!  Would you pick up Kovalchuk for 10 million/year if we could?  (And of course lose other assets to keep him.)


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  204. LA Loyalist says:

    How about the FACT that he’s let in more goals, at bad times, and last year the team had more confidence in and played better in front of, Halak. 

    Not saying he doesn’t have potential. But if you want to talk facts  you should stick to them. And as for cheaper, that remains to be seen. Even if Halak had to go (very arguable) trading him BEFORE signing Price was dumber than dirt and something a first year business student at McGill, hammered on pub night, wouldn’t do. 

    Any thought of giving Gauthier a honeymoon is gone based on that idiot move. Go ahead, argue with me, but use REAL facts.

    P.S. yes he’s younger and bigger.


  205. likehoy says:

    TSN/RDS/THN predictions will put habs out of the playoff picture after trading halak. Guaranteed.

  206. Jordio-oh says:

    hahahaha nice.

  207. SLONCOLD says:

    i still think there are too many question marks surrounding the team right now to make a prediction on their placement in the standings(let alone the injury factor).

    i expect carolina and tampabay to be more competetive next year with buffalo falling down in the standings a bit.

  208. SmartDog says:

    nice butt

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  209. andrewberkshire says:

    1) Nah, there have been more boring days.

    2) Yes, and partially because Halak is unlikely to ever play as well as he did this year.

    3) Boyd wasn’t brought in to replace Moore, Eller was. Eller will be better than Moore by a wide margin, possibly as soon as this year. Boyd was brought in to replace Metropolit, and while he likely can’t do what Metro did on the PP he’s a far superior 5-on-5 player, which is something the Canadiens desperately need.

    4) Maybe for awhile, or at least at times through the year, but long term it was the correct decision.

    5) Believe it or not, Chris Higgins.

    6) No. Never.

  210. LA Loyalist says:

    1. you forgot to mention that Gomez is a Smurf boat anchor and we can’t re-balance this team until he is GONE. 

    2. Leafs or Buffalo will sign Moore back and he will score a goal against Cary Price from the red line and knock us out of the playoffs. You read it here first.

    3. I’m happy to give Eller a shot, I’m just sorry we have Halak up for him.

    4. I like the Tinordi move.

    5. No I would not take Kovalchuk for $10m. If you are going to have Russians you need one with an edge like Markov or Ovechkin, or Kovalev when he was in the mood, which while I loved his skill was not often enough. And we don’t want Frolov, even for free. He’s a Samsonov style floater. Don’t get me started.


  211. HardHabits says:

    You rock Bugs!!! ROFLMAO

  212. HardHabits says:

    nice comeback Mr. Pwn3d

  213. andrewberkshire says:

    However size will matter more next season as equipment gets tailored to height. Halak’s pads will shrink big time.

  214. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Of course, the “so called experts” are always wrong, it is so difficult to predict anything. Nobody had predicted the habs to make the playoffs in 08-09 and they ended up first in the conference, then the same “experts” picked them to finish top 3 the following year and they end up 8th with a quick exit from the first round!

  215. ed lopaz says:

    Hi – I’m not upset at all – Boone said we should try and stay positive and I always listen to Boone. :-)

    I was trying to point out the inconsistency of the argument.

    It lacks a certain logic.

    But theres no denying Price is bigger and stronger and younger – cheaper? well once he signs, I guess that will be confirmed.

    let me clear, so you guys get my whole picture.

    I was watching Price (as a hab) since his FIRST development camp here in Montreal.

    I pride myself on “scouting” young talent; and Price freakin blew me away!!

    Big, mobile, talented – awesome!!

    That;s the Price that eventually became a huge star.

    I travel for 11 months a year in and out of arenas here in Quebec.

    I told EVERYONE that the Habs had found their Stanley Cup Goalie.

    ……….I will skip the rest because we all know what happened.

    last year, halak came in and the team started to win – NOT WITH PRICE!

    I supported the “winning” like the “good” fan that I am – after close to 40 years.

    I supported keeping BOTH goalies and dumping unwanted salary to pay for it (Like 3 million in AK 46).

    But the Habs didn’t listen to me – what a shock!!

    and here we are.

    As long as Price WINS – all we be fine.

    But if the Habs lose, Price will not last here.

    if I;m his agent, i sign for 1 year – that’s it. – if he wins, he can make a big payday next year.

    Sorry for the long post.


  216. andrewberkshire says:

    Wheeler is likely the softest 6’5″ “power forward” I’ve ever seen. I’m glad we didn’t sign him personally.

    Trotter is a lot smaller, but he just has more drive from what I’ve seen.

  217. SlovakHab says:

    1. probably

    2. my guess is as good as yours

    3. yes it does. i think the issue with Moore is salary cap and boyd/eller cost less.

    4. hopefully we won’t miss him, but i expect we will.

    5. couldn’t find anyone specific. perhaps anttero nyyttimaki, who only signed for 2 mil. would have taken him for this much. and definitely moore or metropolit.

    6. no way. if we get someone for our top-6, then get a consistent, tough, 25-30 goal scorer with a good size. if pouliot or kostitsyn develop into one (i doubt kostitsyn will), then we don’t need a free agent like that for a couple of years.

  218. andrewberkshire says:

    I like you’re thinking, especially on D.

  219. likehoy says:

    2. He needs to score 60 points and he justifies sending halak. 

  220. SLONCOLD says:

    no it won’t beacuse he uses a 35 +.5inch thigh rise brians zero pad.

    price uses a 36+2 epic pad.

    the zero g halak stock pad will be legal under the new rules. the rules are to prevent people using 34+4 or 35+3 pads. the other thing that should be mentioned is it’s all dependant on you ankle knee and thigh to hip measuremeants.

    some people may have longer tibias meaning a high knee block ie 34in pad vs a 36pad. however the thigh rise could be larger to protect players a longer femur. so it all depends. but from what i have read and heard from my equipment provider is as long as you knee is in the center of the knee block on the pad you’ll be fine as long as you don’t go past a plus 2 thigh rise

  221. jbroderi says:

    thanks.  I do a lot of lunges!  haha


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  222. jbroderi says:

    spot on, spot on!!

    can’t argue with that logic.  we just need price to move in with gionta or someone and put the bottle and the night club life on hold.  I promise i’ll party it up enough for the both of us if he plays well.


    in 2 years, if Ellar get 65 points, or 25 goals, or both, and price has a 2.5 gaa and/or .912 or so, then we got a great deal for Halak!  Simple as that, cause he ain’t winning no cup in St. Louis


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  223. Ian Cobb says:

    We played under water hockey in my pool today. Mask, fins, and snorkel. Sliding the puck along the bottom towards the under water net. Need garden gloves for the slashing under there.

    What a blast!!!  Of coarse we won! our sticks were RED!—-More Fan Summit Information

  224. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    1. It’s up there.

    2. Goalies have very little value these days, so I think it was a great return for Halak.

    3. It sucks, but it’s the same for most teams, top 2 lines are getting the big bucks, and botom 2 lines are replaceble(unless they’re young prospects working their way to the top 2 lines). Bonk, Begin, Lang, Metropolit and now Moore, recent serviceable guys that have moved on.

    4. No, Eller will do fine and if not, other young guys will compete for that spot or they trade for a veteran at the trade deadline.

    5. Tambellini

    6. Never and keep Lecavalier away too!

  225. Mark C says:

    I like Trotter in there as well. I think the odds of Trotter making the team out of camp are better than 50/50. Being sent to the A would expose him to waviers, odds are he’ll stick with the team if he has a good camp.

  226. LA Loyalist says:

    Sorry, no.

  227. TorontoHabsFan says:

    last year the team had more confidence in and played better in front
    of, Halak.


    Uh, that’s not a fact – that’s an opinion. Just sayin’.


    And I’m sure you don’t need to be reminded that RFAs coming off their worst statistical season without arbitration rights have precious little leverage – all they can realistically do is drag out the process and hope the natives get restless and force management into signing a bad contract. Never mind that if Price’s camp tries to play the hold-out route, there’s still a certain M. Theodore looking for work.

  228. wotever says:

    Good insight but I think you under-represent the value of the size particularly when well positioned.  1 inch higher may mean he’s blocking, say, 3 more inches of net if you consider the “shadow” he’s projecting.  It’s clearly more subtle, but 1 inch of height doesn’t mean simply mean 1 inch of coverage.

    I’d really like to see a graphic wrt the pad changes however.  Does anyone know of one?

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  229. Rugger says:

    6. If the NJ technique is allowed, I’d think about that kind of deal, but in the end no.

  230. Ian Cobb says:

    You can’t replace money players with a ton of play off experience like Gomez. Yes he paces himself some during the long season. When you need a leader that can control the play in the play offs, he is there. Heart & Speed kills! never mind the size.—More Fan Summit Information

  231. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. Even with Tony’s banning it’s pretty dull.

    2. No idea how good Elelr will be, but I know FOR A FACT, that “almost everyone” will never agree.

    3. Moore is old and has reached his ceiling. Go with youth.

    4. No. Come on he’s not that good.

    5. Derek Boogaard.

    6. No. It’s a cap crippler.

  232. andrewberkshire says:

    Thanks for the information. Very enlightening!

  233. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Hoegaarden, my personal fav!

  234. Ian Cobb says:

    Tough being positive living in L.A.? I do understand!———More Fan Summit Information

  235. SmartDog says:

    I think it’s great that you’re such a clear supporter of Gomez Ian.  Whatever you do, do it up bold and direct and stand by your words.  That’s the way to be.

    I couldn’t disagree more about what I think the overall effect of Gomez is on being in Montreal. but I respect the integrity of your standing up for your beliefs in a positive way.  Wish others could learn that more! 

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  236. The Cat says:

    Darn it, stop hurting my feelings like that!

  237. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. No, there will be more boring days to come, this one’s a tease.

    2. Hopefully, but it will likely take a while for him to reach his full potential here.

    3. Just the way it goes sometimes.

    4. I think with guys like White and Palushaj seemingly ready for NHL action and Pacioretty likely building up on the farm this year, our depth for those types of forwards is good.

    5. Can’t think of anyone that we really needed this week that was signed.

    6. No, enough with the FA overpayment. NHL teams need to stop this spiral of madness.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  238. HabFab says:

    Hope you were playing old time hockey with all the clutching and grabbing ;) ;)

  239. kempie says:

    Under I’m afraid.

  240. HabFab says:

    Yes, indeed your my favourite a$$ here! ;)

  241. The Cat says:

    Youve proven yourself to be a worthy member Ed. Maybe I caught him on bad days, but nowhere did I ever see that Price is mobile, in fact I find him kind of slow.

  242. SeriousFan09 says:








    Darche is 13th forward, OB is 7th defencemen.



    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  243. Ian Cobb says:

    Some of these 19 year old children play for keeps. But as a former professional diver, I had a few under water tricks to level the competition some. When they need a little air, just deny it for a moment,

    More Fan Summit Information

  244. Storm Man says:

    Underwater hockey is alot of fun you must have a good size pool. Calgary has a underwater hockey club it is alot of fun to play hope you post some pics of your game.

  245. The Cat says:

    Last year no one saw Buffalo making the playoffs, Lindy Ruff is something else.

  246. The Cat says:

    I agree totally. How can anyone not like him?

  247. notbigbird says:

    1. Boring? I dunno how it ranks, but it’s certainly not been rivetting lately.

    2. Eller? Let’s hope we have a keeper, and I don’t mean a goalie — or maybe I do.

    3. Moore? I wanted to keep this guy, even if just to justify the draft pick, and it could have been done.

    4. Letting
    Moore go?  It’s sort of the same question and answer as #2. It all depends on Eller.

    5. Free agents?Aside from Kovy, I don’t much care.

    6. Kovalchuk for 10
    million/year? Yes, assuming that Gomez and AK are ditchable and it’s not for ten years. Or maybe not for  $10 mil. How about 8.5?


  248. Bill J says:

    Sounds like you could get a “game missconduct for drowning”


  249. mike g says:

    6. Only if he announces the signing during a one hour special on RDS.

    In French….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  250. ed lopaz says:

    a worthy member? do you mean a worthy member of the Price fan club

    I spent the entire year arguing with you guys that halak should be the # 1.

    I favor WINS first, WINS second, and lastly, but most important, WINS!!!

    (and price gained over 20 lbs since he was drafted – which might explain why he’s not as quick as he used to be – believe me as an 18 year old, his lateral movement was excellent)

  251. LA Loyalist says:

    obviously as we saw last year anything can happen, and sometimes wonderful. what I’m not seeing is the plan. We saw total panic from Bob G last year, obvious now in retrospect, and I wish someone would tell me clearly what the plan is. Brian Burke has a plan, it may well be a BAD plan, but it’s a plan.

    Who are we? We are unbalanced. Small and fast and bad 5 on 5 is not enough to go deep in the playoffs when other teams are improving too. I’m 100% for skill, but we need to build a playoff team, not a power play team. That’s why we couldn’t get a whif agaoinst Philly, we were not skilled enough or balanced enough to adjust to a different opponent.

    Montreal’s strength historically has been balance, and depth playing a fast-transition game, but we could adjust. I give Martin credit, and I was no fan of his, but he had the transition game nailed against Caps and Penguins, but we just didn’t have the horses to adjust against Philly. Obviously Markov would have helped a lot, but we’ll never know.

    So who are we this year? Here in LA, we really want to know. thanks!

  252. Garry Bettman says:

    Why not Canada? Because I hate Canada! Hahaha!


    (The United States are an unserved market, you know)

  253. Bill J says:

    20 lbs of muscle.

    after his first season, yes he came in out of shape.

    following season came in 20 lbs lighter & in excellent shape (the first half of the centennial season)

    any more weight gain would be muscle, he has been very good in his conditioning since he came in over weight that season.

    And I choose to dissagree with you, I would have prefered having one hard season, get a good HIGH draft pick, and bounce back this season.

    Price would have learned some lessons along the way, but so do ALL goalies.  At least the ones who have had long careers so far anyways.  With the exception perhaps to Dryden, but he was spoiled with who he had playing in front of him after all.

  254. pic1983 says:

    Are you kidding? If im his agent I try to at least get him 6-8 million over 3 years! What if he just plain sucks this year? he will have next to no value, and no leverage in contract negotiations after the season. 

  255. ed lopaz says:

    we were a top 15 pick before we beat Washington and Pittsburgh

  256. Bill J says:

    Price admittedly is not good coming off the bench as a backup, he gets rusty.

    When he was the hottest ? When he was playing a LOT.  Without being pulled every 2-3 games…  This past season was a tough one, but from what many “in the know” are saying.  Price has turned a corner.  And it is my FIRM belief that is exactly what PG & JM saw, and thus the Halak choice was made.

    Jaro was EXTREMELY magnifique indeed this past season, but the team more importantly then the $$ & cents, needed to split them up, if not for the best interest of the players, certainly for the Habs.

    The drama that surrounded these two, was ludicrous.  And to think some will relish in the opportunity to continue it, baffles me frankly.  Jaro is gone, your a Habs fan… Cheer for YOUR team and YOUR goalie.  Seems pretty simple to me.

    just my 2 cents, and a relatively calm counter point on the matter TYVM lol ;) dig the new avatar btw lol funny stuff.

  257. CaptainGorges says:

    If there was a scale of bad-average-good-very good-excellent, gomez would fall in between good and very good (closer to very good). he’s still a 60 point player (atleast) with a ton of speed and skill. he’s one of, if not the best, players at carrying the puck through the neutral zone into the offensive zone. he just needs to sharpen up his passing, they used to be more crisp when he played in new jersey. he also has a strong wrist shot but for some reason was very unaffective last year. there are a ton of teams that could use a playmaking centre like scotty g (toronto, L.A., phoenix). i’m happy we have him, if only he were 2 million dollars less though.

  258. Bill J says:

    Based on what some people would say here, if Price would have played more…

    We would of been top 5, if not top 10.

    And Price would have gained valuable experience, as M-A Fleury & Ward have…

    I still think the different kind of adversity (being demoted to #2) helped Price grow this past season, and maintain it is my hope that is what PG & JM saw when the decision was made on who to keep.

    We can only judge that decision once all the pieces fall into place Come October… Right ?

  259. ed lopaz says:

    Because if you’re his agent, its probably because you BELIEVE in your client, right?

    Agents need to believe that their clients will have a good year, better than the 1 before.

    You never think – what “if” my client sucks next year.

    And if Price thought that;s the way his agent was thinking, he would find another agent.

    That’s what I meant.

  260. ed lopaz says:

    yes – there is nothing left to argue about;

    the plan is in motion.

    Except – they have not signed Price – which is a bad sign.

    It can be resolved tomorrow by signing, or this can get much, much worse.

  261. Bill J says:

    btw – meant to say, but just noticed I had not mentioned it yet:

    I do agree somewhat with your initial post, and thoughts.  Just a few things I felt like sharing my counter points and some side thoughts.

    Was not trying to imply you where being a Price-trasher.

    Re this post … Agreed, worries me no signing announced yet.

    I agree the Halak signing may very well have changed the value a bit… 

  262. pic1983 says:

    3 inches of height translates roughly into another 1.5 inch of reach per arm, which is quite the difference.  Also, Price is taller and broader, he has another 40 lbs of bulk on him vs halak.  When the equipment becomes more fitted, bigger goalies will be at a huge advantage.

    But you’re right, you need skill to go with size.  Last time i checked, price isnt lacking in skill.  His WJHC gold medal and MVP, and Calder Championship and MVP can attest to that.  Careys problem is between the ears.


  263. SlovakHab says:

    I agree 100% with you and the posts below you, Ian.

    I would add my prediction: With the team chemistry already built, his shooting percentage too low last season and hopefully less injury time for Gionta and Cammalleri, Gomez will be a 20-goal, point-per-game player next season, providing both he and Gionta will play 75+ games.

  264. ed lopaz says:

    sure it has changed Price’s value – Halak is worth 15 million, and the habs have chosen Price OVER Halak.

    How much does that make Price worth, right?

    How can Gautier go to Price and say;

    “hey, we want you to be our # 1, and we kept you OVER Halak, but you’re worth MUCH LESS THAN HALAK.”

    well, gauthier can do it, because Price MUST ACCEPT his current salary 850 + 10 per cent, IF THERE IS NO


    But in the real world, can Gauthier treat his # 1 goalie like this?

    That would be very bad business.

    So they are trying to find a middle ground.

    Could be 1 year 2 million, for example??

    But if Gauthier wants to go to 3 years, he’s actually going to have to offer around 3 million, otherwise,

    why should Price take it??


  265. zak says:

    Where did all of Trevor timmons first round draft picks go?

    Gone to other teams every one.

  266. TripleX says:

    Hockey Guru and former Navy Seal Ian?  Wow dude you is da man!



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  267. Bill J says:

    Like I said, let’s see where the pieces fall.  Who knows, maybe Price wants to sign 10 years at avg cap hit of 4 Mill…

    Do you do it ? lol

  268. Bugs says:

    Except for you of course, TX.


    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  269. ed lopaz says:

    wow! I don’t know!!

  270. Chuck says:

    Congrats to P.K.!

    SPRINGFIELD, Mass – 
    American Hockey League President and Chief Executive Officer David Andrews
    announced today that the league has named the 2009-2010 recipients of several
    awards for excellence and service to the league, as well as the winners of its
    annual Team Business Services awards, recognizing outstanding achievements in a
    variety of categories including ticket sales, community service and fan

    The announcements came Wednesday evening at a gala reception during the
    league’s annual meeting of the Board of Governors at Hilton Head Island, S.C.

    P.K. Subban of the Hamilton Bulldogs and the Chicago Wolves were named the
    2009-2010 winners of the President’s Awards, which are given to AHL player in
    recognition of his outstanding accomplishments in the past year, and to an AHL
    organization for excellence in all areas off the ice.

    In his first professional season, Subban was named a First Team AHL All-Star
    and earned a spot on the AHL All-Rookie Team after recording 18 goals, 35
    assists and a plus-46 rating in 77 games for Hamilton. Subban, who represented
    the Bulldogs at the 2010 AHL All-Star Classic, also made an instant impact with
    the parent Montreal Canadiens, registering eight points in 14 Stanley Cup
    Playoff games during the Canadiens’ improbable run to the Eastern Conference


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  271. JIMVINNY says:

    Did I miss something?  Did we trade Price, Pacioretty, Leblanc, and Tinordi? 


    What happened?

  272. RGM says:

    Carey Price is gone?

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  273. SeriousFan09 says:

    Except for AK, Price, Pacioretty, Leblanc and Tinordi, you’re bang on.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  274. crabvader says:

    Yup, that’s 5 years worth of 1st rounders. Has Timmins really been around much longer than that?

  275. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Sorry Andrew, but seriously your #2 answer irked me. What gives you the idea he could not? He dealt with being the “backup”, win the Molson Cup and then benched (twice?), sent down in favor of Price and still came out to give it all every game? Good team mate…Mature and skilled. Hmmm I think that is a valuable asset don’t you?

    Obviously his play WILL be different as it is with another team (new D, etc), but that is besides the point. I think he is a solid goalie who post similar numbers for a long time…and that will probably suck for Habs fans in the future knowing we might have thrown away Halak (ok premature to say thrown away as we have no idea what Eller/Schultz will be like).

    But you know what you got with Halak, and he proved it year after year.

    So I guess the same can be said of Price, it is unlikely he will ever have numbers like he did in 07-08…he certainly did not last year, so maybe we ended up with a very inconsistent goalie, who has flashes of brilliance, who yet crumbles under pressure… scary thought and I hope I am wrong

  276. petrov14 says:

    Kovalchuk komedy kontinues

    KKK? Not cool :P

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  277. ed lopaz says:

    yes. as we’ve mentioned, he was responsible for the David Fischer pick and Ryan Mcdonough.

    it was a Minnesota “thing” he had going there for  a while.

    habs got this idea that drafting high school defenceman would be outsmarting everyone.

    hasn’t panned out.

  278. crabvader says:

    Some things are said out of frustration, if another forward would’ve said that, it would be ok.

    Price wants to win, can you blame him?

    I bet you his eventual salary that Patrick Roy would’ve said the same exact thing. I remember that game and Price was bang on. The team played a near perfect game and then they just let go.

  279. ZepFan2 says:

    Now it’s my turn…ROFL

    Like you did yesterday? lmao


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  280. fbkj says:

    “What is sad is someone who when called out correctly, can’t accept it
    graciously and with some humor”

    oh my…

  281. TripleX says:

    Again dude.  READING COMPREHENSION?   When called out correctly.

    You were just annoying going on and on about an unrelated point not relevant to the original thread.

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  282. Storm Man says:

    It is sad that all he does day after day is ROFL with his Halak doll.

  283. ed lopaz says:

    nothing personal.

    I’m just saying that when a team is sitting back, its NOT THE GOALIE being talked about.



  284. fbkj says:

    and just last weekend i called you out on the whole lack of objectivity re: 11 to gomez and you just sulked like a child…

  285. TripleX says:

    Are the THREE of you all room mates or something? You all seem to need to rush to each other’s defense when any ONE of you is challenged.  I don’t know if it is cute or creepy.  ROFL

    I am sure Zep can capably defend himself one to one.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  286. crabvader says:

    Lol, were you expecting some kind of grown up discussion?

    ROFL :P

  287. crabvader says:

    Sigh, sometimes you just stick out like a sore thumb.


  288. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, I correctly and efficiently handed you your A$$ yesterday.

    Thanks for the memories! ;)

    Quick question. When does, ‘WE”, become, ‘My teammates’?


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  289. fbkj says:

    hes my friend no doubt but no im just calling it as i see it



    liek wtf?

  290. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bowman was never beloved by his players on any team but they accepted it because I believe the quote was “364 days of the year we hated him, on the 365th day we won the Cup.” They hated him, but they respected him for what he pushed them to do.

    They may have told him he wasn’t GM material, but they thought Grundman was, seems like their judgement wasn’t quite up to par.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  291. ZepFan2 says:

    Never took it personally.

    You just conveniently ignored the WE part of the quote. Then went and ASSumed he was pointing the finger at his teammates even though his own teammate agreed with him. But whatever.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  292. TripleX says:

    I suggest you read Ed Lopaz and his response to that question.  He spells it out correctly and succinctly.

    Of course you will ignore the validity of it as you do any challenge.

    I ended this yesterday, yet today you continue to bring it up.  Who is the immature one?



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  293. ZepFan2 says:

    Like you jumped in when Ed Lopaz replied to me?

    It’s okay for you to reply to a post, but no one is allowed to counter your BS?




    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  294. ZepFan2 says:

    I suggest you read Natrous and his response to that question. He
    spells it out correctly and succinctly.

    You’ve been an idiot from day one, so I don’t expect any changes anytime soon.

    Btw, you “ended it” by running away like a little puss.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  295. fbkj says:


    holy hypocrite


  296. TripleX says:


    So typical of the whole bunch of you.  When an argument does not go your way out come the insults and childish behavior.

    All of you need to grow up and this is coming from a 17 year old.

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  297. ed lopaz says:

    I agree with your post – about Bowman and Grundman.


  298. fbkj says:

    where did i insult you please? you went off on me… about doing something you are equally guilty of (not that i think of it as an offence)


  299. ZepFan2 says:

    Typical of a BS’er to try and play the victim.

    Poor Zep has trouble with reading comprehension

    Bring back any memories?

    17 year old. That explains a lot. All full of piss and vinegar and thinks they know everything.

    Been there, done that.



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  300. SLONCOLD says:

    he wont suffer he uses a brians zero g 35+0.5 which is completely legal under new rules.

    carey price uses a 36+2 epic pad which is also legal. the new rule is so people liek halak can’t wear a 35+3 pad. all +2 thigh rises will be okay assuming the knee block on the pad is centered to you knee

  301. ed lopaz says:

    thanks! I’ll write that down so i won’t forget next time.

  302. TripleX says:


    Don’t forget the quote from Scotty Bowman.  It is used like the Dead Sea Scrolls around here as the final arbitrator on any discussion about Price.  ROFL


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  303. ed lopaz says:

    And i haven’t mentioned that I was around when the Habs brass let Bowman go – he was basically told he

    was not GM material, but he could coach the team if he wanted to.

    Not sure if that’s an insult to Bowman, or to the Habs – but I know there’s an insult somewhere in there.

    Bowman was also hated by his players – they despised him.

    just a few quick notes about Bowman from someone who was alive at the time.

  304. ZepFan2 says:

    Your’e back must be sore from all the ROFL you do.

    “Don’t trade Price.”- Scotty Bowman.

    “For 58 minutes, Price
    was the best player on the ice
    , but he left the HSBC Arena as a 3-2
    shootout loser after the Sabres rallied to tie the game with two quick
    goals in the final 1:59.

    “That’s the kind of year it has been for
    me,” said Price, who was obviously not happy with the outcome.

    had this game and we let it get away. For 55 minutes, we had this game
    and then we sat on our (butts) and let them come to us
    ,” Price said.”


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  305. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, then he went to Buffalo and we all saw how that worked out.

    That being said, I truly wanted him as GM over Grundman.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  306. ed lopaz says:

    dude – you should NEVER use that second quote if you support Price.

    He is basically BLAMING his team for the loss!!!

    We had this game and we let it get away. For 55 minutes, we had this game and then we sat on our (butts) and let them come to us,” Price said.”

  307. ed lopaz says:

    Grundman was a freakin joke – a businessman who had some friends in high places- what a joke!!


  308. The Cat says:

    Bowman had to be the most opportunistic coach of all time, kinda like Phil Jackson in the NBA.

  309. RGM says:

    Actually it’s just used as my signature.

    Don’t forget that Halak benefited from larger pads, and with the new goalie equipment rules coming into effect this year, he will suffer. Meanwhile, Price being a larger goalie, will be unaffected.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  310. TripleX says:

    HAHAHA…I caught that as well dude.

    Poor Zep has trouble with reading comprehension I fear.  ROFL



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  311. ZepFan2 says:

    Hmm, yet oddly enough, an agent who basically speaks for his client, is allowed to tweet crap about his clients teammate!?

    Double standard much.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  312. ZepFan2 says:

    There’s that ROFL again. Sad really.

    I guess you missed the, “We” part, as in, WE had this game…

    Here’s something for you to read from the same article, smart guy.

    “I was in front of the net and I couldn’t get the puck out,” defenceman
    Roman Hamrlik said of the tying goal. “Carey played so well tonight;
    it’s too bad we couldn’t get the win for him.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  313. Natrous says:

    Price used the pronoun ‘We‘, not ‘They’ or ‘my teammates’. Where do you get this notion that he’s blaming his team (which had more to do with that loss than he did)?

  314. TripleX says:

    What is sad is someone who when called out correctly, can’t accept it graciously and with some humor.  Chill dude it is just the internet.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  315. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, and I have the supposed reading problem.




    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  316. Exit716 says:

    I wish Jim Gray would have asked LeBron if he ever bet on baseball…

  317. The Cat says:

    So other than Montreal for an answer, who do you guys think will be one of the surprise teams next year?

  318. Garry Bettman says:

    It’s ridiculous! Every single post I make (or nearly all of them) get deleted.

  319. crabvader says:

    Ask again October 1st.

  320. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Dont you dare talk about humidity while I’m suffering thru it.  lol

    (summers in south florida are brutal!)

  321. ed lopaz says:

    I really think Tampa is going to do well.

    I think Boucher has a chance to make a great statement there, and I have alot of respect for Stevie Y.

    I have followed Boucher since he was in the Q – the man is a winner, and a great communicator.

    Stamkos is a freakin phenom – he is lights out!!

    I think Tampa is back in the playoffs and around 90 points.

  322. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m rather hoping the East is strong enough that 90 points doesn’t put you in the postseason this year. Tired of being the weaker Conf despite having so many star players here.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  323. ed lopaz says:

    habs will benefit with a “weaker conference” – be careful what you hope for!!

  324. The Cat says:

    Definitely. Tampa should have been in the playoffs last year, well I thought, but they lacked structure and leadership behind the bench. Boucher can fix all that.

  325. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well i was kind of expecting the Habs to be competitive in the top half this year. Like I’ve said before, fewer injuries, better team cohesion and the new kids should raise the team at least 12 points this year for a 100-point season. We can’t expect to keep knocking around a weak conference, even if we are the side that has the priviledge of knocking around the SE division.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  326. The Cat says:

    The problem is the east’s stars are pansies compared to the west’s stars. The east just doesnt have that tough team yet.

  327. The Cat says:

    Yeah it is early, no doubt we’ll talk about it again.

  328. ed lopaz says:

    your looking at 40 + wins for Price in that scenario, maybe even 45.

    On July 8th, I can not say that I see that happening.


    5 goalies had 40+ wins this year and only Brodeur had 45.

  329. SeriousFan09 says:

    Depends on how many games the team throws a win together, and how many times it ends up falling to Price to make it happen I would say. Their wins will depend upon how they do as a team, which seems to be the intent behind the new roster.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  330. Rugger says:

    Positive surpises: Tampa, Edmonton

    Negative surpises: Flyers, Sabres, Bruins

  331. petrov14 says:

    I can see Colorado taking a step back as well.

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  332. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Good post.  Truth is it will take at least a few years to see where these two young netminders will go.  Commenting on it now is useless,  none of us has a crystal ball.

  333. Bugs says:

    Carey didn’t “put up” with a whole season’s workload either.

    Is he 22 or not?

    Or do you mean “22 with x amount of workload” obviously won’t be as good as “22 with y amount of games?”

    Gimme a break.

    People are peole and players are players no matter how old they are.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  334. Bugs says:


    I think we will MORE than surprise by how drastically we fall without a num1 goalie.


    Oh no, I di’in’t!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  335. ZepFan2 says:

    OMG, I never seen it coming. Miami, really!


    Everybody and their Grandmother knew he was picking Miami.

    And now the World implodes…


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  336. ed lopaz says:

    true. but to get to the 100 points, someone needs to “carry the load”, and clearly it will be Price and not Auld

    and clearly Price will have to play something like 60 games, and win about 40-45, for us to reach 100 points.

    Auld has won more than 10 games only ONCE since the 2005 season – the most he’s good for is 20 points.

    That leaves 80+ for Price.

  337. TripleX says:

    This dude is just embarrassing.  Incapable of using proper English or putting together a coherent thought process into words.

    LeBron chooses Miami.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  338. petrov14 says:

    I agree. No joke and I would have said that BEFORE Halak. Tampa will be better too, much better.

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  339. SPATS says:

    If we can pop 2 more goals every 3 games… Price will be fine.

  340. petrov14 says:

    LeBron picks the Heat. Should we even care? Why am I watching it? Crap its hot  :P

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  341. SeriousFan09 says:

    See what we get I suppose. Price will have to rise to the level he had been performing at before January of 2009, no easy way to predict 10-11, but I’m feeling good about the fact that the team’s forward depth is improved and our puck mobility from the back end is getting a big boost with Subban.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  342. fbkj says:

    I flew down to watch the habs play at MSG a few years back, we got shut out 4-0

    halak was in nets

    ill still never get that out of my head

    dont get me wrong i like halak a lot, but people need to wake up and realize hes a good goalie that can shit the bed


    just like price

  343. The Cat says:

    I like the way you put it…

    Positive surprises: Minnesota, Colorado, Toronto, TB

    Negative surprises: Flyers, Ottawa, Canucks, Chicago,

  344. Muckbringer says:

    someone saying it wouldnt be the third best moment in their life?



  345. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Vancouver now has one awsome team!

  346. Storm Man says:

    I see a handfull of people on here suffer from pneumocephlytic can someone call Dr Mulder and get him in here STAT……..

  347. joeybarrie says:

    Price let in on average a TOTAL 12 more goals than Halak last season. Yet we still think Halak would be the saviour of next year. OH MY HOW INSANELY CRAZY WE ARE IN HERE IN FANTASY LAND… One post I saw managed to bash the management for having the lowest scoring 5 on 5 and somehow said the fault was on the HALAK trade?????????? I mean what the hell are you saying????

    We had to get rid of Halak cause we couldn’t afford to have him and Pleks too… Price is as good a goalie, except he falls a bit cause he is young. Halak can have the same thing happen. As much I as I love what Halak did for us I know he only did it this last season, and I am glad PG was smart enough not to give him a Tim Thomas, and find out he was HOT and just a decent goalie.

    I am sorry to say it this way, but if you can’t see the benefit of what PG did, you are pretty naive. Same kind of thing when you look at Gionta and Cammalleri and you don’t think bringing in Gomez had a big influence of the decisions then you are simply being naive…

    So enough is enough. GET OVER IT. Price will be a superstar, and even not our big problems last season had to do with not scoring enough and injuries. NOT with goalies… let’s wake up to reality….


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  348. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    St.Louis?   ( ducks for cover )  lol

  349. jimmy shaker says:

    Just to let everyone know if they see any footage of the Bob Probert funeral tomorrow and hear a lady singing…..That’s my amazing wife.  She was asked to sing by Bob’s wife’s family.  My wife’s parents married the Proberts here in Windsor years ago.  I know I shouldn’t be shouting out my wife at a very sad time/occasion, but I just wanted to let you guys know.

    Prayers go out to Bob’s wife Dani and their four children, as tomorrow will be a very sad day!


  350. TripleX says:

    You must be very proud of your wife as that is quite the honor for her.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  351. D Alcorn says:

    Yup, that’s a tough one to comprehend, I mean, with him having ‘ attended ‘ a US University and all …


    ALWAYS Habs –
    Dave Mex

  352. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you, that was hilarious.


    to failing hands we pass the torch….

  353. Muckbringer says:

    please comment on my latest in depth analysis….sorry did i spell that wrong?

  354. Storm Man says:

    Amen Bud.

  355. Muckbringer says:

    were getting pretty deep


  356. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    By himself?  Let’s see how he does without Hall Gill (AKA the Redwood on skates)  and Josh Gorges ( Aka Heart and soul) blocking insane amounts of shots.  And let’s not forget Mr. Clutch,  Michael Cammalleri (AKA I score goals in the playoffs!)

  357. Bugs says:

    It’s gonna take at least a few years to see if Halak can get to the third round by himself?

    I dunno about that…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  358. punkster says:

    You are on a woll today Wabbit.


  359. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Yup.  People can call Stevie Y a noob all they want,  the guy knows hockey and has studied under some of the best.  He will turn that franchise around.

  360. punkster says:

    What, you didn’t get yours in the mail when you registered here?

    Mr. Boone! Send this man his crystal ball immediately. He’s working at great disadvantage to the rest of us.


  361. Danno says:

    LeBron doesn’t know anything about humility



    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  362. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Thats cool man.  Good for her.  she must have a great voice.

  363. TripleX says:

    From Twitter:

    I’m keeping my 2yr old up to watch LeBron James Special.  I want her to see the exact moment our society hit rock bottom.


    LOL so true so true.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  364. petrov14 says:

    Subban wins AHL’s President’s Award

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  365. ZepFan2 says:

    Hit rock bottom?

    This person does know there are multiple reality shows on almost every night, right?

    I think we’ve gone past the bottom.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  366. fbkj says:

    bugs is selective when it comes to who does what


  367. ZepFan2 says:



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  368. fbkj says:

    normally id agree with you but apparantly montreal has been the hardest hit in the northeast in this wave

    whatevs i gots some baddass ac

  369. Muckbringer says:

    i was at habs @ leafs last boxing day with my dad, was yelling halakleuhja, and ak after we won in overtime after blowing 2-0 lead



  370. Propwash says:

    To me, Price was annointed the saviour of the team, it didnt pan out yet, but when people want to see him fail to prove a point, proves to me how much of a fan of the team they really are.


    The kid has the pedigree, you’re telling a kid to be the next Roy when he’s barely been in the league 3 years. It takes more than a goalie to make a team.

    My sig makes total sense for the situation.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  371. Muckbringer says:

    the newspaper clipping from the sun will forever hold honor on the fridge


  372. Muckbringer says:

    he is doomed, here anyway too bad

  373. halakitlikethat says:

    How can anyone seriously be happy about having Carey Price start in goal?

    I’m still in shock that they would trade Halak. For nothing.

    don’t understand it! Someone please explain this to me. And please
    don’t give me the classic “Price just has more upside and he’s going to
    be better someday”

    What is his upside? That he takes 10 seconds
    to go cross-crease? That Patrick Traverse could beat him glove side
    from the red line? He handles pressure by looking like he doesn’t give
    a spit?

    HALAK IS a better goal, and HAS BEEN a better goalie all season
    long! And last season? And he’s like a year and a half older! What the

    I’ve been a hardcore fan all my life, but I’m having a lot of trouble dealing with this folks!

    Does anyone ever think for a moment that Price has been on good teams, and good times?

    Junior – he wasn’t even that impressive if you look at his stats.

    AHL – Alex Auld could have one the cup with that team in Hamilton, they were amazing.

    World Juniors – he was mediocre all tournament long and couldn’t stop a beach ball in the shoot out (luckily he had Toews to bail him out)

    – Halak has outplayed him for the last 3 years… What happened every
    time we lost 3 or 4 with Price? Halak came in a got us wins, night in,
    night out.


    (Thank you for letting me rant, but seriously, could someone provide justification?)

  374. fbkj says:

    i was at the game where obyrne scored on his own nets in my buddies seats that are so upclose we didnt see what happened at the other end of the ice cuz of glass refraction

    that sucked

  375. Bugs says:

    They did it to hear you rant.

    And by golly, it’s worked.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  376. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Shea Weber named Nashville Predators’ new captain. Sur-prise!

  377. Muckbringer says:

    we got pushed around in net last year. only a fool would think we didnt improve

  378. fbkj says:

    in other drafts price would have gone first overall, the fact he was ranked fifth and chosen fifth says something about the depth of that draft and the skill this kid has

    when i was 22 i didnt have a mcdonalds toy made of my likeness

    and im pretty sure neither did you

    and if you did im sure you would have let it get to your head


    lord knows i would have

  379. Muckbringer says:

    next 100 years we have no scapegoat


  380. RGM says:

    Awesome. Nice to see him get that spot. Next up? Josh Gorges for Habs captain. Kelowna Rockets taking over the hockey world!

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  381. TripleX says:

    Kovalchuk signs 10 year 120 million dollar deal with Miami Heat.  He will be butler to King LeBron James.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  382. Muckbringer says:

    too good times!

  383. Bugs says:

    Ain’t sayin Cammy, Gill or Josh played like sh*te by any means.

    But let’s hear you say it, Lootie: did we get to 3rd round more cuz of the players relying on Halak or more cuz Halak relyin on his players?


    Nevermind mind the FACT that Halak was the RUNAWAY leader for the hart Trophy afore losin to Philly, of course…

    Or was it Gorges?

    C’mon, mate. We’ve seen more from Halak than we’ve ever seen from the Priceberg.

    For the last 4 years too. And I don’t remember Gill or Cammy bein around when he got us to the playoffs LAST year, nor almost the year they gave the last game against the leafs to Huey.


    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  384. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    You’re missing the bigger picture,  young goalies are hard to judge, judging them on a couple season’s play, (or a good playoff run) is not wise.  Twenty year old kids take time to develop,  sometimes they don’t develop till they’re almost thirty.  It’s hard as fans to sit back and wait,  but thats what we must do.  Try to enjoy the experience.

  385. Caper says:

    I’m happy that Carey Price is starting in goal. Hope that helps.

  386. Muckbringer says:

    yeah, next up ” leafs make the playoffs!!!


  387. Propwash says:

    It takes one “oh s**t” to erase a hundred “attaboys” when it comes to Price, the guy has made saves that has blown minds throughout the NHL


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  388. _Habsoloutly_ says:


  389. halakitlikethat says:

    yeah well hopefully he comes around!

    I just don’t understand why they never “really” gave Halak number 1 status, or a chance at being number one. It was always Carey Price, all the time. Just because Halak was drafted (much) later doesn’t take away from the fact that he has time after time produced wins for a sub-par hockey club.

    Given the Canadians draft history, I wouldn’t place too much stock in Price’s future anyway. Fans have just been super excited about Price because he’s been our highest pick in ages. Mistakes have been made.

    Who waits 6 rounds to draft Pavel Datsyuk anyways?


  390. fbkj says:

    we wont have a captain till we get a francophone player that fits the bill

    sucks but hey we have to be politically correct and put language before reality

  391. Muckbringer says:

    whatta joke

  392. kool-aid says:

    Habs fans are never satisified. Stay thirsty my friends.

  393. Mad Habber says:

    Yes Toronto, certianly it will surprise many of us to see them climb from 29th all the way up to 25th….

  394. fbkj says:

    I agree it sucks that they had so little faith in halak that they rode price in the playoffs and replaced him with halak 3 times

  395. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yeah, that’s a rant, without actual backing to it no less. Playoff MVP titles and WJC honours don’t just fall out of the sky, and being the best goaltender among the entire CHL is not the easiest thing to accomplish either. Either the AHL Press, CHL Press and the WJC Press were all drunk or paid off with large amounts of money, or they know more than you do.

    The NHL, Price had a strong 07-08 campaign as a 20-year old, than was on a great campaign for the first half of the season, until he badly regressed starting in January of 2009 and has had only flashes of brilliance since. Halak has not outplayed him for 3 years, that’s nonsense brought out by the Halakites that can’t be backed with any real evidence. Halak was not as good then as he is now and it’s a laugher to say he was.



    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  396. Propwash says:



    wait a sec, stay thirsty my friends is a dos equis commercial…


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  397. fbkj says:

    ps: dude you have to stop saying mate

    pps: and find a profile pic that doesnt enduce such douchechills

  398. halakitlikethat says:

    I’ll agree with that, but here’s what I don’t understand.

    Carey Price – drafted high, labelled as our saviour, the next Roy, the chosen one. Doesn’t quite live up to expectation but is constantly given chances to prove himself.

    Jaroslav Halak – drafted (very) late, has performed well and exceeded expectation during regular season and playoffs. Has made saves and stolen wins where hockey experts thought was impossible. Gerenal consesus? It’s a fluke, let’s go with Price.

  399. halakitlikethat says:

    sarcasm appreciated.

    so, why get rid of halak if when they “needed” a win they chose him?

  400. joeybarrie says:

    WAKE UP MAN… Halak has let in more goals glove side than Price. The problem here is SOME IDIOT say something and all of a sudden three othe idiots repeat it and it become fact………

    Price’s numbers in 2007-08 are the same as Halaks last season… So he OBVIOUSLY HE DIDNT OUT PLAY HIM THE LAST 3 YEARS….

    How is it that the goalie plays excellent in the run to the Cup, and you say it was the TEAM… Yet Halak plays well in the Playoffs and NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAM… It just sounds stupid….

    If he was such a mediocre goalie in all these league you say, how is it he won the WHL top goaltender, CHL goaltender, Calder Cup MVP, and mad e the WHL all star team????????  How is it your genius opinion should be worth more than the ones running the league????

    And my FAVORITE… You said Price couldnt stop a beach ball, and was lucky Toews was on the team to bail him out… WHY oh WHY did they name PRICE the tounrnament MVP and not TOEWS??????????????

    Honestly, how wrong can you possibly be????

    EVERYWHERE he has gone he has excelled…. Why is there so much hate for a young goalie????

    So here is my reply to your rant. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  401. halakitlikethat says:

    Obviously Halak wasn’t as good then as he is now. That doesn’t even make sense. What kind of goalie prospects gets worse with time?

    Oh wait.

  402. RJB says:

    After watching “The Lebrachelor” tonight, and seeing the last bit of respect I had for Lebron James go out the window. I am being honest when I say I am glad a franchise like the Montreal Canadiens exists. They may not do everything perfectly, and they may come off as idiots sometimes. But one thing about our Habs, they are a class orginization, which is a dying breed in sports today. So we can watch talented athletes move to south beach to “win championships” and see top players in the world revealed to have more mistresses than major wins. But our Habs will always be classy!

    Cheers! I figured that someone needed to praise this team…for some reason they’ve been taking a lot of “heat” lately! (No idea why!)

  403. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Stay thirsty?  I’ve drank enough Vodka tonight to kill a small country,  but i digress.  thirsty does not apply to my current state of being,   lol

  404. Caper says:

    You’re a Texas boy so I’ll assume you know your college football. Vince Young of the Texas Longhorns . 3rd overall in 2006. If he can stay out of trouble it looks like he is coming around. Halak is not a fluke. He works hard. Price has more talent however he does not have jaro’s work habits. If he adopts Jaro’s work ethic he is kicks Jaro’s a– to the moon. No question.

  405. Mad Habber says:

    Hehe hockey experts….hope your talking about someone other than scribes and talking heads on t.v.


  406. fbkj says:



    and other needs


    we were the envy of the league last year in nets


    will it pay off? who knows? am i thrilled about not having halak? no i fucking think hes king shit, however, our problems last season werent in nets and the shortest straw got pulled

  407. SeriousFan09 says:

    That’s incredibly pessimistic, Gainey in the 80s, Koivu’s tenure? Our only French Canadian prospect who might be up for it is Leblanc and he’s at least two years away from NHL action.

    Gionta will likely have the C on his jersey out of camp.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  408. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Is that Eric Clapton in your avatar??

  409. RJB says:

    Yes indeed! God of rock

  410. Caper says:

    Can’t see Ovey, Crosby and Halak working together to get on the same team. 

  411. halakitlikethat says:


    “How is it that the goalie plays excellent in the run to the Cup, and you say it was the TEAM… Yet Halak plays well in the Playoffs and NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAM… It just sounds stupid….”

    Well, it’s clear that you didn’t watch any of the Habs postseason run. I wouldn’t call 50-save bailout performances by Halak a TEAM effort, haha.

    “And my FAVORITE… You said Price couldnt stop a beach ball, and was
    lucky Toews was on the team to bail him out… WHY oh WHY did they name
    PRICE the tounrnament MVP and not TOEWS??????????????”

    Who was more valuable in that game? The goalie who let all the goals in, or the player who scored them all to bail him out?

  412. joeybarrie says:

    Try looking at it this way.

    Halak did just as well as Price did in 2007-08.

    Price was taken 5th overall, and would be cheaper to sign.

    Halak was tken in the 9th round and would be twice as expensive to sign.

    Both are young and have really only had 1 season of success.

    Who do you go with??????  If you pick the overpriced 9th rounder, trade your highest pick in 10+ years….and Price ends up playing great and Halak plays OK… You will NEVER EVER get another GM position in the NHL.

    What you have to realize is that you go with a GOOD goalie, and fix the parts that werent working… Like our scoring.. So lets sign Halak and let Pleks walk and lose our number 1 scorer…. AGAIN, even in Prices CRAPPY season he let in only 12 more goals than Halak did on average all season long. Mostly in games without our number 1 defense… dont forget that….  But its so easy to ignore reality here… We ONLY remember the last 10 games…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  413. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Whoa!!!  You’re from Beaumont Texas???  The home of Johnny and Edgar (two of my musical heroes),  respect dude.

  414. crabvader says:

    Sloppy argument Bugs.

    Ward was thrust into the mix halfway into the playoffs. He didn’t have to put up with a whole season’s workload.

    It’s easy to go hot during the playoffs (look at Michael Leighton, who also did not have to do a whole season’s work).


  415. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well it’s been suggested that he’s always been better with no proof, when Price was clearly his superior in 07-08 and the first half of 08-09 when he led in all relevant categories. He had has injury, regressed and Halak took over but he has not been better than Price all this time. You want to match rise in goalie prospect status? Halak was playing in the QMJHL at the same age Price was winning a Playoff MVP title in the AHL. Halak’s battled a long way, but Price has a very high talent ceiling and accomplished a great deal at a younger age.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  416. ed lopaz says:

    Dude – its no use – there is no justification for making the trade.

    all that’s left is “hope” that somehow a 23 year old will survive the impossible situation his

    GM has left for him.

    If the Habs win, the fans will roar their approval.

    If the Habs lose, well….its very possible Price will take much of the blame whether he deserves it or not.

    Gauthier is an arrogant prick for having done this to Price and to the fans.

    We all hope it works out for the best.

  417. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I’m a guitarist, and I just saw Clapton for the first time when he was here in south Florida on tour with Roger Daltrey.  He is god!!

  418. halakitlikethat says:

    I’m actually from St. John’s, NL… just been living and working away for a few years. Back home for a while now though.

    Nice football reference though!

    And I would agree with you as well. I loved Halak’s work ethic, he never gave up. The only reason I can’t stand Price is because he looks like he just does. not. care. He acts as though he knows he has the thrown no matter what. And analysts call it “composure”.

    I’d love to see a revitalized Price with Halak’s work ethic. If that happens, I’m a happy camper.

  419. Duracell3 says:

    Dastsyuk wasn’t even drafted for 2  years after he was eligible….


    As for Halak, I wasn’t suprised he was traded at all. Price is not as good of a goalie as Halak right now. He very well may never be, however to fit under the cap with any room it is a much safer choice going out several years. Especially when we have a $7mil+ superstrar scoring 12 goals.

  420. Caper says:

    Very cool. Probert was the best scrapper ever. Sad, very sad.

  421. joeybarrie says:

    Did you not watch Price face 55 shots against Nashville????????

    OH YEAH, I would actually say you didn’t watch our heroic defense keep most of the shots out of the dangerous areas. You didnt see our Defense blocking shots left and right. AGAIN, saying Halak did it all by himself is just stupid. And do you really want to go back and see how many saves Price made in 2008-2009…???? When the SAVE PERCENTAGE is the same. The you let in the same amount of goals.. So it goes both ways, doesnt it???

    As for who was more valuable in the World Juniors. I would have to let the PROFESSIONALS decide. OH YEAH, THEY DID…. IT WAS PRICE…. HE HAS THE TROPHY…. What do you do for a living that makes your opinion stronger then the OFFiCIALS INVOLVED IN THE TOURNAMENT??????

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  422. HardHabits says:

    Your reading of the situation is simplistic IMHHO. I wouldn’t even begin to claim that I know the answer. Who can figure these guys out? Moves out of nowhere. I will say this. It is part of a plan. The Habs will always try to make the playoffs because of the revenue benefit. In the past however they’ve squandered the ability to build depth because they were always blowing everything now on building a winner today for this season and all moves were made with short-term gain in mind.

    Which brings us to today. The Habs are not going to tank, at least not intentionally and believe it or not, not to my chagrin. They will however, at least by statements made by PG, put a competitive team on the ice that fights for a play-off spot and at the same time develop depth in the farm system to build a team that will be stronger year by year. The big blow-up of last summer was just a 1st salvo in a major rebuild.

    The Halak trade was a difficult decision to make but a calculated one. They played Halak in the playoffs, made some serious cash, raised Halak’s trade value and got a very good trade out of it. What did Huet bring? Those two prospects that Halak brought are far more NHL ready than anything the Habs will draft next season.

    Food for thought.

    When Halak was here I called him out as number 1 within like 20 games into the season. He was really only the starter by game 50 or so and even then it was tentative. He was undeniably the go to guy in the playoff run. Now, Halak is no longer a Hab. Time to deal has long since past.

  423. Caper says:

    You working on the rigs? Newf eh? Cape Breton boat people!!

  424. fbkj says:

    im being snarky

    mostly about koivu

    being chased out of montreal for only knowing 3 and half languages

    while those chastising him barely knew one

  425. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s not an impossible situation with a core of qualified leadership, defencemen, solid role players and scorers among the team. This isn’t the Florida Panthers or the New York Islanders. The GM decided to go with the younger, cheaper goalie who potentially has a higher ceiling than the goalie he dealt. It’s a hard decision but it was made and I applaud him for not playing it safe for his job security, which a lesser man might have done to keep the fans off of his back and went in the longer-term interests of the team.

    I still don’t see why he is considered an arrogant bastard all of a sudden, he made the choices he had to make, but he hasn’t taken daily media interviews since he got the job talking about how he’s building the best team the league ever saw and using meaningless buzzwords to do it. Gauthier thinks he knows more than the fans about how to build a team and that’s arrogant? I’d hate to have a humble GM on the job who thinks he should read our advice for what to do.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  426. Caper says:

    Hendrix was a better guitar player.

  427. Caper says:

    Maybe we should eat more snickers bars.

  428. joeybarrie says:

    How JADED are we that we truly believe that as fans we know more than MOST of the current and previous management of the Canadiens.

    What exactly has PG done to Price? Trading away any chance we have at winning?

    Its so hard to sift through so much stupidity.

    I really really wish that we could see how our sofa GM’s do in the real NHL… But we cannot, we must simply sit here and hear how great they WOULD BE, and how if it was done like this we would have a Cup every year.

    How is it this 23 year old did so well when he was 20 and now he will have no chance? Contradiction city… Change it from MONTREAL to CONTRADICTIONVILLE…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  429. halakitlikethat says:

    Cape Breton? Nice, I have family there.

    No, actually I’m a petroleum engineer. Texas tea baby!

    Trying to find work here in the province was brutal. Things should be turning around soon though.

  430. TripleX says:

    No one seems to care that LeBron can’t speak English. xD

    Yes, it was silly to condemn Saku for not speaking a fourth language.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  431. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Hendrix and Clapton were great friends and contemporaries actually.  Clapton was devastated when he heard of Jimmy’s untimely passing.

  432. punkster says:

    Best not to let crap like that eat you up inside. Saku represented us all in the finest way anyone could. He gave his best and will always be remembered and honoured here for that. I will expect nothing less from the next Captain, whoever that may be.


  433. badbalance says:

    Could someone pl explain to me how RFA works as in, how long does it take to get a player signed, Lapierre and Price still haven’t been signed in over a week after the free agency started.. Is there a certain freeze period before he can get signed if other teams offer or something?

  434. halakitlikethat says:

    You need to drop your PASSIONATE man-crush for Price dude, it’s creeping people out…


  435. fbkj says:

    told you a while ago triple that we agree more than you know ;)

  436. halakitlikethat says:

    Intelligent viewpoint.

    Much appreciated, HardHabits.

  437. Caper says:

    Didn’t know that they knew one another. Must have been some wild parties with those two.

  438. fbkj says:



  439. TripleX says:


    Now you are just trying to scare me dude.  xP

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  440. fbkj says:



  441. Caper says:

    My wife’s uncle by marriage worked for an oil company involved with rigs off NFLD. Funny thing is he is from Texas. He retired last year and moved back to Texas.

  442. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Oh hell yeah.  Clapton was on an extremely succesful tour with Cream and he bought a bunch of vintage Fender Stratocasters, he gave one to his buddy George Harrison,  and he was to meet Hendrix the day after and he was gonna give one to him as a present,  the next day he heard thru the media Jimi was dead,  he was devastated.

  443. punkster says:

    By the way TX, the Nike quote is ok for marketing but wouldn’t you rather use The Bard “Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them”


  444. HardHabits says:

    The Habs IMHHO need to get away from being bombarded by 45 shots per game.

    Next order on the agenda is score more goals.

    Bottom line:

    Halak isn’t responsible for either of those elements in a game. It was a trade off. Halak was worth more on the trade market and Price will cost less.

    There appears to be an upward trend coming in the next 3 years, and a lot of tank jokes, but with all due respect I see this as a rebuild. Last summer attested to that.

    The bigger picture coming into view is still a little hazy. As the approach nears it’ll get clearer. I am patient enough to wait see what develops in the course of this current 5 year plan but lately I’ve witnessed a lot of wounded and shell shocked Habs fans in their collective angst. It’ll be alright.

  445. Caper says:

    Good one. Be nice to see Lebron punch him in the head.

  446. TripleX says:

    Wasn’t George Harrison’s cheating on him with Clapton?  I thought I heard that somewhere.  Or maybe it was the other way around.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  447. Storm Man says:

    He never went to University. He went to the NBA right out of high school.

  448. TripleX says:

    Is it really from a Nike commercial?  I seriously had no idea.  I saw it on the internet yesterday and I liked it, but I assumed it was a quote from some literary work.  NIKE?  WTF?  LMAO



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  449. HardHabits says:

    Hendrix is in a class unto himself.

    Clapton, who I ‘ve seen live, Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were all Yardbirds and of the 3 my fave was always Page, that was until I heard “Blow by Blow” and “Wired” by Jeff Beck.

    I am a total guitar aficionado. I can’t believe I only recently discovered Chet Atkins.

  450. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Yes,  thats another story all-together.  Harrison and Clapton were good friends,  and Clapton fell in love with Harrisons wife and had an affair with her.

  451. Bugs says:

    Especially after what Jaro pulled on those two in the playoffs.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  452. punkster says:

    Therapy can be of value.

    You’re bang on about the SOG and our goal production. It may stand to reason that if we increase our SOG (quaility shots, not blue line floaters) we would be spending more time in the opposition’s end of the ice and they less time in our end. But our problem last year was getting to their end, with control, or taking away control from them. I’m not explaining it well. Puck possession maybe. Too many times we played dump, line change, chase, fall back, block shot, clear zone, dump, line change, chase, etc.

    How do we control the puck better from our zone to theirs and create the quality SOG opportunities?


  453. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    hey,  you’re preaching to the choir dude.  Hendrix is my #1 and Clapton is my #2.  Jeff Beck and Page are also very talented dudes as well.

  454. punkster says:

    Now look, I’m only going to point out something obvious to you here so don’t get all defensive.

    This from a guy with the name “Halak” in his name.

    There. It had to be said and I said it as sweetly as possible.


  455. HardHabits says:

    I think they need a stronger offensive line, a bigger center, bigger guards, and bigger tight ends. I am tired of all these lateral and back passes and hail mary long bombs. Let’s see them run the ball into the end-zone already!! No wait that’s football. Nevermind.

  456. Bugs says:

    Thing that started worrying me about my boy the Priceberg had nothing to do with his reflexes (which are amazing), or his positioning (which is sometimes floppy outta panic) or his mental toughness (which tends to frazzle when he gets mad), but what is I believe to be the MOST important aspect of a goalie’s game:

    Keeping track of the puck.

    He loses it. He can’t follow it. He doesn’t see it.

    That scares me.

    Halak’s eyes were those of a lynx. Could track the puck with brio, anticipate opponents’ plays with daring acumen. Could see THROUGH guys, ferpetessakes.

    For the Kid, if this can be worked on and improved and mastered as I KNOW his other…foibles can, well then we gots ourselves a num1 goalie, I reckon.

    But you gotta see what you’re tryin to stop, no?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  457. punkster says:

    Pat Martino, 1972,  “Sunny”

    John McLauglin, Mahavishnu Orchestra, 1973, Birds of Fire (the entire freakin’ album)




  458. HardHabits says:

    Malmsteen? Eek!! I am not into pyrotechnics. Music yes.

    Hackett, Howe, Blackmore, Hendrix, Beck, Clapton, Page, Gilmour, Fripp, et cetera, those were great guitarists who played in great bands and/or made great music. Malsteen’s music is inconsequential. He plays lights out I will admit. I’ll also admit that I don’t like listening to him play.


  459. ed lopaz says:

    I think you should save your “applause” for Gauthier.

    You might need it in about 10 months when Molson gives him

    his walking papers.

    If the habs miss the playoffs, Gauthier is done and so is Price.

  460. SeriousFan09 says:

    I applauded Kovalev for his 2nd-best year ever in 07-08, doesn’t mean I was one of the few dozen people picketing the Bell Centre to save him. I’m giving PG benefit of the doubt since he doesn’t have much time on the job yet but so far I can’t greatly protest his moves, I like most of what he’s done so far. Doesn’t mean I’m a-okay with everything he’s done but so far I think he’s making the moves to put the team on the right track. If the team falters because of moves he makes, I’ll reconsider my opinion of course as the 10-11 season starts, but as it stands, I like how the team is poised to perform next season.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  461. punkster says:

    Crazy, eh? Just when you think you got the perfect tag line some jaxkass shoots it down ;)

    This coming from a guy who uses “Free Timo” as his. WTF indeed.


  462. punkster says:

    But…your point is made. Offense!


  463. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I agree,  but, he’s 22.  I mean let’s give him a chance to develop before we throw him out with the bath water.  From what I’ve seen with his strong family I predict he will be a winner.

  464. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    As a guitarist, I respect Yngwie for his raw talent,  but I’d rather listen to Bucket Head if I had the choice.

  465. axman88 says:

    When’s the madmax special????

    Which team did he decide to sign with?


    I can’t sleep the suspense is killing me!

  466. Clay4bc says:

    I got more of a chortle than a LOL out of your comment…well done.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  467. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I don’t know man,  if you look past the gimmick and listen to Bucket Heads playing,  the guy freakin shred’s.  I’m more into Blues/Rock myself,  but I can apreciate all forms of music.

  468. crabvader says:

    Aw come on, who deleted the Bettman, Sather, etc comments?

    I was just about to show my brother… some of them were actually funny.

    Did it get out of hand or something? I thought it was pretty cheeky humor.

  469. axman88 says:

    We have our own superstars that were drafted in the top 10 overall (not all from the same year):


    Team:                               Miami Heat          vs         Montreal Canadiens

    1st overall pick:              Lebron James          vs          Roman Hamrlik

    4th overall pick:                Chris Bosh            vs           Benoit Pouliot

    5th overall pick:              Dwyane Wade         vs            Carey Price

  470. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    It’s pretty sad that RDS is so starved for Quebecois player new’s involving the habs, that they have to turn the Lappy signing into a one hour special.   lol

  471. HardHabits says:

    Malmsteen is undeniably a virtuoso but that doesn’t always translate into better music let alone a better musician. Nevertheless that’s highly subjective.

  472. Clay4bc says:

    Um…just saying here, and really don’t want to get involved in your dispute (this time)…

    But were those 55 saves in an elimination game in the stanley cup playoffs against the presidents trophy winners, or against the defending champions?

    It was great for Price to have that game, and very exciting for me as a fan. BUT HALAK DID IT WHEN IT MATTERED!


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  473. Bugs says:

    They sure are stupid for wanting to appeal to their target audience, aren’t they?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  474. Bugs says:

    How old was Cam Ward when he won the Cup?

    How long are we gonna keep sayin “but, he’s 22?”

    Until he’s 37? He’s been here three years!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  475. Adam says:

    Well, he’s a tall guy so he’s got that on Halak. Harder to screen, so if you’re right on this, hopefully it’s just a matter of learning to stay cool in certain situation such as when the crease is getting crashed and he’s gotta focus on the puck, not on Ovechkin’s huge ass in his face.


    I’m looking forward to seeing what he does this season. I think he’ll do good, though I’m not one of those “He’s got a pedigree!” guys. I just have a good feeling about him, somehow.

    And no, I’m not slagging on Halak. I love that guy. But I know the reason he had to go had nothing to do with his play, and everything to do with the dollars, and on management deciding that Price was the future (enter Tony with his Gainey conspiracy theories). Such is life. I like the team, on paper at least. And I’m pretty excited by some of the prospects – looks like we might finally have some size coming into the forward ranks in Eller, Palushaj, Leblanc and Avtsin. The next few years might actually be looking up (ha, see what I did there?)

  476. Clay4bc says:

    Remind me how many goals Saint Patrick let in his last game as a Hab?

    The point is, even the greatest of them all have bad games – and plenty of ‘em.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  477. Adam says:

    With all due respect, I cannot stand Malmsteen. Now, Satriani! There is a shredder for ya.

    Just my taste, but I’d say that SRV is the tastiest guitar player ever. His phrasing is out of this world.

  478. HardHabits says:

    Interesting stuff Buckethead. I like that trippy stuff.

  479. Robert Gainey says:

    I liked my posts.

  480. kempie says:

    Zappa/Vai always does it for me.

  481. arison243 says:

    Thanks for sharing the information. I am very amazed at the confidence level of you guys, so i have to refer your blog to my friends because it’s really a help full blog.

  482. habrez says:

    Two trends in NHL starting goalies:

    North American: high draft pick, typically built larger. Examples: Luongo (6″3 1st round), Price (6″3 1st), Mason (6’4, 3rd round), Brodeur (1st), Roy, Ward (6’1 1st round), Giguere (1st round), Fleury (1st round),

    Europeans: late draft pick, typically smaller. Examples: Halak (9th round, 5’11), Vokoun (9th, 6′), Hasek (5’11, 10th round), Khabibulin (6’1, 9th round), Niemi (6’2 undrafted), Kiprusoff (6’1, 5th round), Rinne (8th round, 6’5), Nabakov(6′, 9th round), Hiller (6’2, undrafted)

    There are some rare exceptions like Raask (1st round), Ryan Miller (5th round), Turco (5’11, 5th round) but for the most part this is the case.

    Correct me if I am wrong (Internet too slow to check it up) but I believe only Hasek (2), Niemi and Khabibulin have won cups since the modern age of the european influx. This leaves stanley cup winners in Roy (3), Giguere, Ward, Fleury, Brodeur (3), Osgood (3, 2 as a starter), Belfour, Richter, Vernon and Barasso. 

    So if you go with history, Price may have been the better choice to keep. North American high draft choices are more likely to win the cup. But what it really comes down to is the team. Roy won on his own but also with some very good Colorado teams. So did Brodeur. So did Hasek. The rest of these guys all won with some very good teams in front of them.

    PG decided that in order to be a better team we needed to improve our forwards with the trade of a great goalie for a very good prospect. The money he saved in the trade was used to resign our best forward last year.

    But only time will tell if he made the right move. Looking forward to next season, but not so much the Price versus Halak.     


  483. SensFanSpezza says:

    Haven’t you heard?  No humor allowed.  This site only permits Price praising/bashing, line combinations and “you’re a troll” conversations.

  484. Clay4bc says:

    I caught Malmsteen in concert back in ’86, backing up Dio in Calgary. It was an incredible show, and Malmsteen is even more impressive live.

    Dio too, actually – what a voice he had. Shame he died…


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  485. rocket909 says:

    I often read your blog and always find it very interesting. Thought it was about time i let you know…Keep up the great work

  486. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    I was reading further down when the Halak/Price debate erupted again. It’s so easy to take sides and name names, but the real debate is just goaltending. You could have traded both Price and Halak and I would not have been upset, if the return left us solid in goal. The Halak trade left the team with a very unpredictable goaltending situation. The Auld signing left us with no apparent Plan B to look forward to.

    Trading a solid young number one and going with a kid who has stumbled a lot is a risk – I don’t mind it in any position other than in nets. That was the debate, and the debate’s over. If there was a mistake, it’s made.

    Price is the Habs goalie. I think it’ll be interesting to see Sanford get another chance, and to see Desjardins get NHL experience. It could be the most interesting carousel since Michel Plasse, Bunny Laroque and Andre Racicot thrilled your grandfathers.

    Me, I`m optimistic about the young forwards. I`m not optimistic about the Halak versus price debate ending, and in that, I`m speaking as a goaltending fan. I don`t care if Lindsay Lohan is in net, as long as she stops the puck.

  487. Clay4bc says:

    Yeah man – that was the one! To this day it remains one of the best live shows I’ve ever seen.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  488. habs4last says:

    if you’re talking about a team finishing in last place- habs are it.

  489. punkster says:

    Friendly critique. I don’t know a thing about the subject however what you have presented provides no proof. I don’t see much of a difference in size between NA and other goalies based on what you say here. If you’re trying to build a case for selecting Price as number 1 then this theory just doesn’t d it.


  490. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I might actually have to go see a Heat game this year.  They are putting together quite the squad.

  491. Bugs says:

    If Florida had another team called the Humidity, maybe THEY woulda gotten’m.


    Gosh, that was lame. Apologies.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  492. ed lopaz says:

    cool – i was also in my 30’s.

    we have waited since 93 for this run, have we not?

    17 years of never making it past the 2nd round – its almost mind boggling and impossible to accept.

    and this year – a miracle from no where – no one expected it.

    there was a Goalie that literally stole game 5,6,7 vs Ovechkin (a player we will discuss with our grandchildren),

    who made more than 50 saves in game 5 alone.

    that has now been TURNED INTO A SIDE NOTE by virtue of the trade.

    I think i will remember Halak – he EARNED MY SUPPORT!

  493. TripleX says:

    A little premature to assess the relative degree to which the Halak trade falls in terms of damage to the franchise.

    I think it best to have at least one full season to make a judgement.  I am sure no one realized how bad the Leclair deal was till a couple of seasons had passed.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  494. petrov14 says:

    Tremblay ran a few players outta town  :(

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  495. The Cat says:

    Theres a lot of posts I dont get or understand, but I never can understand why people just wont give Halak some respect. I guess its kowtowing to what the organization since they never have given him some respect.

  496. Caper says:

    The only trade to damage this franchise was Paddy Roy’s. Goalies are better 15 years later. Losing a star goalie is not the same anymore. Most goalies are the best athletes on the team and as in the case this year, you can pick up a very decent one at a cheap price. I’m not diminsishing what Halak has done. A trend is starting to develop. i think you’ll see goalie salaries coming down. The Olympic goalies all played horrible in the playoffs. we all know the rest.

  497. TripleX says:


    I think this idea that top end goalies will no longer be valued is not well thought out.  Yes, the Hawks and Flyers did well with less than excellent goaltending, but look at their top six forwards.  I tend to think good teams can overcome mediocre goaltending because they can simply outscore the opposition or keep possession of the puck.

    There are many more examples of teams that are completive because of great goaltending.  Teams like Montreal, Buffalo, Phoenix and Colorado to name a few from last season.  Is it easier to assemble a group of top six forwards considering the Cap, or to acquire ONE superb goalie.

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  498. George Gillett says:

    wait what happened to halak?

  499. andrewberkshire says:

    Pretty sure Leclair scored something like 12 goals in the first 5 games after he was traded, so people went nuts immediately.

  500. punkster says:

    Well done. Economic version of my run on blather above ;)


  501. punkster says:

    My impression is it’s cyclical. The trend to day seems to be away from depending on a great goalie only because the recent Cup wins have been due to a mix of elements, including a “hot” goalie (hot meaning flashes of brilliance versus great long term solid play). Once a truely great goalie steps up again, like Brodeur, we’ll go back to scrambling for high proced tenders.

    Relating this to Montreal I have no idea if Price is a great goalie of the future, a hot goalie who may win us some critical games or series or just an ordinary goalie who requires an extrodinary team in front of him to be successful. Let the so-called experts here and in the media forecast that one.


  502. ZepFan2 says:

    He was shived.

    Enjoying the World Cup, Mr. Gillette? I mean, we all know your passion for the sport.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  503. petrov14 says:

    Its the ‘ohhhh look how they won, lets ALL do that!’ that happens every few years. IE Defence, Big players, small fast players, ect.

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  504. JIMVINNY says:

    But since he didn’t die, then based on your logic, it is funny.

  505. Caper says:

    Sorry. Only fun intended. Seriously. Allan Walsh probably had John Davidson review this website during contract negotiations.

  506. Caper says:

    I can only imagine if this site was available in 1995. For sure it would have blew up early December.

  507. likehoy says:

    hmm…i guess you’re right, but you know the story of the boy who cried wolf!

  508. likehoy says:

    haha well 3.75m is just about right…if he read this website or visited all the stop signs in montreal, he’d think halak was worth closer to 10.

  509. Caper says:

    I think most people are p’od cause they can’t wear their Halak stop sign t-shirts in Habs colors. hell I’m a Price guy and I want one of those t-shirts.

  510. JIMVINNY says:

    And taken half the internet with it.  I can’t even imagine.  I remember how upset I was as a 13 year old, and I’m sure I would have put some of the current trolls to shame.

  511. Caper says:

    I was in my 30’s and a huge fan. It was brutal but at the same time  it was 50/50 for support of Roy and management. Roy didn’t like Tremblay since his rookie year and if I recall they roomed together on the road. Alot of fans were not happy with him walking off the ice. Both sides were hot headed as they shipped him out before cooling off. As a long time fan this is why I don’t fully understand this support for Halak. And I stress don’t fully understand.  Halak is a side note in Habs history. You can make a case that trading John Leclair was more of a bad deal than Halak’s.

  512. HardHabits says:

    The difference is the 1st and 3rd the Habs got are closer to the NHL than the 1st and the 3rd they would’ve picked next draft.

    Look at it this way. The draft is an inexact science. Ellar and Schultz are worth more today than in the year they were drafted because back then they were unknowns as far as their NHL value. Now given a few years more development they can be assessed as being closer to the real thing (hopefully).

  513. ed lopaz says:

    absolutely correct. and presumably, Gauthier’s thinking exactly;

    that’s what motivated Gautheir to pull the trigger.

    otherwise,  if he accepts an offer sheet and refuses to match, he gets a first and a third, and we wait at least

    2, 3 years to get back to this point.


  514. TripleX says:

    Exactly right.  It is all about the term with Price going short and PG wanting to take him past UFA status.

    Price and his agent realize if he puts up good numbers going into UFA status he is setup to hit it big.  I can’t believe how badly PG screwed up this whole negotiations.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  515. ed lopaz says:

    “I can’t believe how badly PG screwed up this whole negotiations.”

    We don’t have enough information;

    What if Price REFUSED to sign before the Halak trade, and Gauthier felt like he could not wait any longer?

     What if St Louis called Gauthier and told him that they were going to sign an offer sheet for Halak, unless a trade could be worked out quickly?

    Notice how the Habs got a former 1st round and a former 3rd rounder?


    Maybe Gauthier had to make the Halak trade, and he had not time to deal with Price who is obviously not signing so quickly?

  516. Bill J says:

    Interesting & quite valid reasoning….

    Let’s not fool ourselves, we do not have blow-hard Burke as the GM, so we do not know “what happened”

    As it should be despite my curiosity.

  517. likehoy says:

    do your research before you panic 2010

    $3,091,963 to $4,637,944 First- and third-round pick
  518. ed lopaz says:

    that’s exactly what I said – halak signed for just under 4 million, and we received a 1st and a 3rd.

  519. TripleX says:

    Of course anything is possible.  But a general truism is that the simplest explanations are more often than not closest to the truth.

    I think PG simply botched the whole thing up.



    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  520. likehoy says:

    oh sorry summer heat + capitalized letters played tricks on me! i apologize!

  521. ed lopaz says:

    wouldn’t be the first time, and it won’t be the last – I’m not a fan of PG.


  522. ed lopaz says:

    no need to apologize.

  523. ed lopaz says:

    i was also wondering about the AHEM…..???

    I thought it was directed my way.

  524. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, I was picking out the sentences I wanted to address, as you did.

    Except, I had more to pick at.

    No biggie.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  525. Bugs says:

    No, Zeppy. Not at all. I didn’t adress “sentenceS”; I addressed ONE.

    You know I like you, Zeppy. Got class and style. But when you REPOST the whole text in the VERY NEXT REPLY, it looks LESS like you “wanting to address something” and MORE like you wanting to be a smart-aleck EXCEPT where you can’t be. That’s what makes it annoying. If you wanna answer the WHOLE thing, why repost it? Because some of it stumps you, obviously, and you wanna save face where you can. Tit-for-tat, tit-for-tat, tit-for-tat… Very annoying, for it looks like you prefer to argue outta pride than out’ve fun for the debate. Buddy knows what he said. Just put dashes – to address every point; works just as well, saves space, AND doesn’t look like you got your knickers in a knot and must save face at all costs.

    Not saying you’re doing it (like your friend does); just saying that’s what it LOOKS like.

    Selecting ONE tidbit to repost and retort to not only focusses the attention on something PARTICULAR , but gives the overall impression you respect the rest of it enough (whether you agree or disagree with it) not to HAVE to offer something in reply to every single part.

    I feel I’ve explained this in a more than satisfactory manner. If you persists in calling both situations identical, I’ll feel you’re doing it to me and bow out.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  526. HabFab says:


    Not sure what you said but Wow!!

  527. LA Loyalist says:

    Scary as it is that we are betting the farm on Price, it’s scarier that Gauthier was stupid enough to trade Halak first. 


  528. ZepFan2 says:

    What can I say Bugsy.

    I’ve been doing that for years on another site. I’m not going to apologise for it and you’re free to believe whatever you want about my intentions.

    Like they say, you can’t please everybody.

    That being said. That long of a post, for little ol’ me? I feel the love, Brotha! ;)


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  529. Bugs says:

    “It is therefore logical to conclude that the habs believe that Price is at least as good or better than Halak.”

    You’re just concluding this NOW, Eddie?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  530. ed lopaz says:

    i’m a little slowwwwwww; :-)

  531. ZepFan2 says:



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  532. Bugs says:

    I HOPE you’re not gonna allude to my post yesterday about “annoying”, Zeppy.

    Because there’s a difference between copy/pastin the WHOLE text except with selected lines out that you don’t wanna address, and copy/pasting the ONE line you DO want to address while leaving the resta the text alone.


    Or is your ahem about something else altogether?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  533. rocky835 says:

    Nice Post I already digged this

  534. rhhjbj681 says:

    I would like to read more of your blogs and to share my thoughts with you

  535. matraque says:

    I’m happy that Lapierre is back.

    Not enough francophones on this team… If you look back at past drafts, this team would be much better if we had picked guys like Gagné, Perron and Giroux….

    Too bad.


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  536. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    …and no Quebec Anglophones, it’s a travesty!

  537. Bugs says:

    Maybe Regehr over Gagne for me…

    But can’t disagree with other two.

    Weren’t the only team to pass on’em though.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  538. crabvader says:

    The Canadiens have the 2nd most Francophones in their system after Philadelphia.

  539. fbkj says:


    while having francophones is nice it should not be a priority

    making it a priority creates division

    which we already have enough of

  540. Ian Cobb says:

    Mathieu!!! You are happy that Lapierre is back because he is francophone?? Not best player available ? Who cares if he can talk on the phone or what colour his girlfriend is. He happens to be a Canadian playing for the Canadiens that’s all. Small minded people can’t see the trees for the forest.

    Your favourite is Gionta, what is up with that?  Maybe I have misunderstood!

    More Fan Summit Information

  541. Malreg says:

    Unfortunately it is technically not against the CBA, so any change he would like to make would have to go through the NHLPA. You think they’re going to cooperate?

    Apparently he tried everything he could to try and not let the Dipietro contact go through a couple years ago, which started all of this.

  542. gralam906 says:

    where do i get more information on this

  543. Bugs says:

    It is a travesty.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  544. crabvader says:

    Actually, Louis Leblanc’s English is miles ahead of his French.

    West-Island kid in Kirkland, :P

  545. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Hey, what’s up Tony?

  546. Propwash says:

    K, how about Gauthier lets Price go to another team, then REAL HOCKEY PROFESSIONALS will laugh in the team’s face on how incompetant the management is. Betcha youd like that wouldn’t ya?


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  547. Bugs says:

    Lemme see if I get this straight: we trade away our num1 goalie for a club soda and a pack of crackers and we SHOULDN’T keep our other one?

    We should only keep him for ONE year, judge his career at 23, let him go loose, and we pick up a BETTER goalie next year somehow, we don’t how, but somehow?

    That’s your plan?

    And that would NOT be a “big mistake?”


    Cou-cou, cou-cou, cou-cou.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  548. derfab says:

    One thing i agree with is that the value of goaltending is often little more than hype.

    One player is easier to focus on and disect, hence he is great or crap. 

    character is derfab destiny.

  549. derfab says:

    One thing i agree with is that the value of goaltending is often little more than hype.

    One player is easier to focus on and disect, hence he is great or crap. 

    character is derfab destiny.

  550. alestar says:

    I’m convinced that “Tony” is just a program that randomly assembles phrases and posts them….

    kinda link this:


    XXIV…and counting

  551. BJ says:

    At this stage whatever the Gauthier/Gainey combo have done will do its very thin ice. If results are not there re. the Halak trade Gauthier will be on the unemployment list with Boivin, as I do not think Molson will extend the leash . I liked both goalies and before jumping on the wrong goalie bandwagon lets give it a chance both ways. We should extend Price our full support and see were he can take it. We have a very entertaining team and enjoyed last season greatly. I’m also curious to see how good Boyd and Eller can be.

  552. Garry Bettman says:

    THAT, my friend, is some seriously impressive weasel-ing right there.

    Wherever did you learn?

    My wig and I should take some lessons.

  553. joeybarrie says:

    Hey Tony,

    ITS KOOLAID… not COOLAID. Its Gauthier and not Gauthieer. Season MVP, WAIT when did we let Cammalleri go? By the way. Halak was ranked a 7.0C by hockeys future, and Eller is ranked 7.5C…

    I understand why you do not see any improvements…Mostly cause your a dumbass. However, making the conference finals is pretty good. I can only hope we do as well or better next season…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  554. kool-aid says:

    you’re drinking too much of me, slow down there before you get a brain hemorrhage

  555. GrimJim says:

    Dear Bugs, Tony has never let logic get in the way of a good management/Price bashing.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  556. Propwash says:

    He’s clearly trolling, which is fine and dandy, the guy don’t know sh1t on how a hockey team is run, and is all trying to be like “lookit me, I’m anti-establishment, I must be cool!”


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  557. GrimJim says:

    If the guy is a true troll (who doesn’t actually believe what he saying but is just trying to stir up crap for the sake of stirring things up) then he really should take up acting as a profession because he has managed to stay perfectly in character and consistent despite hundreds of posts. Sadly (IMO) I think he truly believes what he’s saying… but then I always try to look at things at face value until proven otherwise.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  558. avatar_58 says:

    It’s funny I thought it was COMMON SENSE at this point that everyone agrees we need to ride Price regardless of his flaws. I mean NO goalie is going to be available next year, or the year after, etc for decent coin. Desjardins is not good enough. Ergo Price *IS* the man thanks to the Halak trade.

    I mean it’s common sense for crying out loud. They bet the farm on Carey so regardless of how next year plays out we have to watch and cheer him on, so he can become better.

  559. slamtherimtim says:

    so are we going to have a captain this year or what

  560. Ian Cobb says:

    After the New Year, if someone steps up by then!!

  561. 24 Cups says:

    If there is no captain by opening night, then I say we bring back Mike Keane as our 13 forward and give him the ‘C’ (again).  It would correct a wrong from the past and help out with the cap!

  562. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’d be absolutely shocked if there wasn’t, Gionta is my frontrunner, plus we have  names like Cammalleri, Gorges and Markov. Team has a solid leadership core, pretty sure the C will be worn again next season.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  563. Slovak says:

    I nominate all of you people, I never saw so dedicated fan base trying stay possitive no matter what.


  564. RGM says:

    I hope so, and I hope that his name is Josh Gorges.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  565. db says:

    Is management going to let the players vote? Or are they going to choose themselves?

  566. Ian Cobb says:


    We finished 4th best team in the League last year and we were well entertained most of the year as we put this train wreck together, which took the most part of the year with injuries etc. Getting there is most of the fun Slovak. Enjoy the ride my friend. It’s coming!

  567. Slovak says:

    Summertime is great, it is better to go out than to think about HABS situation. I am not pessimist but:

    Comparing to previous many many seasons I don’t see any significant positive move – SHOULD I BE NAIVE and blindly believe to those strange people in HABS management who are laughing and selling people this PURE HOPE FUTURE based on their weird dreams???

    How many more “wait and see” situations are needed? Don’t you see they only want to start another “blind hope” in people to earn more money?

    I wonder how much more you can take before you really get pissed off with management ruining all hopes again and again. Isn’t it worth to start doing something with this situation like boycott games?

    And let them know – NO I DON’T BUY IT THIS TIME!!!!

    Or maybe we can sit and sing this nice song:

    PS: Do you really feel this time something big changed?

  568. Rugger says:

    After a season when they made it to the ECF and before even seeing the preseason you are calling for a Boycott?

  569. crabvader says:


    Haha, it saves us all the trouble and as you copy and paste, it’s always a different complain… always right, though. Genius.

  570. ZepFan2 says:


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  571. kempie says:

    Very funny but not up to 242’s standards. You’d have to run it through a syntax destroyer or a moronizer or something to make it sound believable. It is very funny though. I did a Gainey one and it sounded like Mr-T below.

  572. Chuck says:




    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  573. alestar says:

    New from Blammo: The Tonyizer 1200


    XXIV…and counting

  574. Chuck says:

    “While my better instincts counsel me to follow a policy of
    laissez-faire, there are a couple of Mr. Tony242’s statements I feel I
    cannot let pass. Let us note first of all that the core ethic of
    Tony242’s entourage has been its brash, unyielding nature, its
    unquestioning loyalty to Tony242, and its eternal war footing
    constantly spoiling for a fight. Get that straight, please. Any other
    thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, this
    is not a question of jujuism or fetishism. Rather, it is a question
    about how Tony242’s newsgroup postings set the intellectual and moral
    stage for a new wave of slimy policies that seek to expose and
    neutralize Tony242’s foes rather than sit at the same table and
    negotiate. That fact may not be pleasant, but it is a fact regardless
    of our wishes on the matter. We wouldn’t currently have a problem with
    neocolonialism if it weren’t for Tony242. Although he created the
    problem, aggravated the problem, and escalated the problem, Tony242
    insists that he can solve the problem if we just grant him more power.
    How naïve does he think we are? Truly, Tony242 often misuses the word
    “deanthropomorphization” to mean something vaguely related to
    exclusivism or exclusionism or somesuch. Tony242’s apparatchiks,
    realizing that an exact definition is anathema to what they know in
    their hearts, are usually content to assume that Tony242 is merely
    trying to say that he’s merely trying to make this world a better place
    in which to live. I have one final message for you before ending this
    letter: Mr. Tony242 is a sore loser.”


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  575. alestar says:

    hahahaha…I love that generator, I used to use it all the time…it’s uncanny how accurate it can be!


    XXIV…and counting

  576. TripleX says:

    Yes, Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur were all hype.

    The dissatisfaction with top end goaltending is but an aberration caused by the success of the two finalists with mediocre calibre goalies.  The NHL plays follow the leader after every successful trend from goons, to goaltending, to top forwards and now to going cheap on goalies.  To say it is all hype is to ignore past history.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  577. ZepFan2 says:

    No, but Steve Penny sure was.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  578. ed lopaz says:

    Agree completely.

    Most important position in all of sports – always has been, always will be.


  579. Adam101 says:

    One that I felt is a real must read is Homophobia and Discrimination in Hockey

  580. aromal681 says:

    Thanks for sharing the information. I am very amazed at the confidence level of you guys, so i have to refer your blog to my friends because it’s really a help full blog.

  581. mike g says:

    Just watched another “ESPN 30 for 30 Films”….

    Those dudes down at the ESPN headquarters in Connecticut are a bunch of geniouses. These incredible sport stories, mixed with the drama and catchy music make for such great documentaries.

    Anyone who has a chance, download a few of them off a website, or watch them on Youtube.

    Exceptional films guys, trust me.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  582. ZepFan2 says:

    Did you get to see, Magic and Bird yet?


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  583. Ian Cobb says:

    Once Lapierre and Price sign, then we are set to go. We will be the 4th best team in the league, getting better, and under the cap by a fair amount.

    Going to be a fun year. Only thing to be determined is who will make the roster from our group of kids.??

  584. G-Man says:

    You are the eternal optimist, Ian.

    The goalie and role players that made the Habs 4th are gone. This team is staring squarely at or near the basement of the conference this season, especially with the addition of Auld.

    A couple new faces from Hamilton (excepting Subban) won’t hurt, but won’t help much either.

  585. says:

    Completely agree Ian.  8 weeks away :)


    They Call Me Shane

  586. habs001 says:

    hopefully i am wrong but somehow i do not see that once the 2010-2011 reg season ends we have the 4th best record…i think we will be looking in the 14-20 range in points…if we make the playoffs anything can happen but over 82 games this team is not even close to being a top 4 team 

  587. SlovakHab says:




  588. nickster13 says:

    lol ty

  589. Ian Cobb says:

    Gilbert, the only reason that I made it in life was that I never fixated on the negatives that are always present. But found the positives in every person and thing. Only way that I could sleep nights. Fear and negatives are certainly there if one needs them.—–More Fan Summit Information

  590. Ian Cobb says:

    And don’t forget! if we win more than we loose, we will be ahead of some teams. For the first time in many many years, we are a team that plays for each other and is getting better. Not like the past 15 years with recycled players running the show. We now have solid management and we are getting there one piece at a time. Enjoy the process. Winning the cup only lasts about a week or so.

  591. ed lopaz says:

    Yes – I understand how long winning the cup lasts – I was around to see quite a few cups since the early 70’s.

  592. BJ says:

    Agree. Life is like a donut, the donut or the hole.

  593. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – Which begs the question: is it going to be a beautiful, sunny summer day or a hot, sweltering beast?

    Ontario strawberries are at their peak right now which signals it’s time to switch from Rusty Nails to Strawberry Daiquiris.


  594. Slovak says:

    Great :)

    Just a question: 

    Can you see the donut if you are in the hole? If no, you just have to believe the donut is out there right? And if you still just believe but you never really see the donut, what would you do?

  595. Ian Cobb says:

    Get a pair of glasses!

  596. BJ says:

    In terms of absolute consciousness you are both the hole and the donut but primarily the hole in which the donut appears. Take a bite…..

  597. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – You present a lot of valid points.  I would also add a #11.  Can Gill and Gorges build upon their fabulous playoff run from last season?  Gill has a history of running hot and cold and he’s 35.  That might be asking a lot.  The headmaster will shoot me but I would also ask if Gorges has reached the end of his potential in terms of upscale.  He’s a great ‘steady eddie’ type of guy but is somewhat overrated on this site.  He still loses some battles in front of the net and along the boards.  Just sayin’.

    I still think our season will come down to the development and performance of AK46, Pouliot and Price.  If they get their act together then we should make the playoffs.  If they stay stuck in neutral it could be a long year.

  598. SeriousFan09 says:

    I would say with Markov it was more the issue he missed the first half of the season and was missing conditioning and practice time by coming back from the injury early so he was never quite at 100% when he did start playing again. He may have to adjust his game, but he is still the smartest player on the ice for the Habs, he’ll adapt his game as necessary.



    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  599. Slovak says:

    Most people do not realize both sides, they hardly realize one…

    To take a bite is just great solution – because when you see nothing – try something where you don’t need eyes – great WOW :-)


  600. Slovak says:

    but in the dark – there is nothing to see…

  601. ed lopaz says:

    G-man, there are many “ifs” in the scenario, and from my experience, that’s the biggest problem with this team. too many “ifs”, and not enough certainty.

    So fans can be optimistic all they want, but some of us try to analyse the situation a little more carefully than just “everything will be OK, don’t worry, be happy”.

    here are the biggest “ifs”:

    1) IF Price can play at least 60 games as a top goalie without having a meltdown when the fans will inevitably be tough on him – that’s alot to expect from a goalie that “watched” all the fun with a towel over his neck

    2) IF Markov comes back from an ACL injury and is the same world class player; he already looked much slower and less effective when he cam back from last year’s injury

    3) IF Cammaleri can continue to score – the Flyers shut him down simply by putting a big body out there; once he is shut down, where does the secondary scoring come from?

    4) IF AK 46 can grow up and be his own man now that his brother is gone;

    5) IF Pouliot can play like he did, and supply the secondary scoring, as he did when he first came over

    6) IF Auld will be handle 20+ games, and actually hold his own as the back-up goalie; some teams, like Calgary, were forced to keep playing their # 1 game after game because their back-up never won. We have learned to take for granted that we had 2 goalies to depend on

    7) If PK Subban becomes the star player quickly, and can lead the Power Play while Markov out, and contniue when Markov gets back

    8) If Eller is ready to the 3rd line center, and the 3rd line is as effective as it was with Moore – who was Gauthier’s best acquisition since he became GM – we all agreed – now Moore is gone for nothing in returrn AND we lost a 2nd round draft pick again

    9) IF jacques Martin will allow the proper development of the “youth” – including O’byrne, or will JM have 0 patience like he showed last season

    10) IF the other teams in the East who finished behind us last year  have not become significantly better in the off season, because we have certainly NOT become much better.

    Sure – if all these IFS fall in our favour – or at least most of them – than we will compete for a playoff spot.

    I don’t see the “certainty” of it, however.

  602. ed lopaz says:

    His knee injury will never take away from his hockey IQ – that’s for certain.

    His ability to skate as a world class player will also go along way towards helping the Habs win more games than they lose.


  603. ed lopaz says:

    I could have added many more.

    for example;

    12) who will play the point on the second wave of the power play? which I discussed yesterday.

    with Gorges you get “effort”. and his skills might peak, but its the effort that we respect, or at least I do.

    I have a 16 year old son who plays hockey as a d-man. He’s about 5’11, 190.

    I’ve told him, play like Gorges, and you’ll always be fine – because  no matter what happens you know that

    you’ve played every shift like it was the 7th game of the finals.

    re AK 46 and Price – watch out for the unruly fans, and their impact on these 2 players.

    these 2 are on the shortest of leashs.

    I have literally seen and heard, at the old Forum, Larry Robinson and even Guy Lafleur get booed.

    In Montreal, playing for the Habs is like playing baseball for the Yankees – there comes a time when you

    either produce, or the fans will force management to make a change.

    This year – Price and AK 46 have reached the fans’ limits.


  604. punkster says:

    You can pick any team in the league, or any team in any league in any sport, and apply an “if” list. Dramatizing this as a Habs only thing is just that, dramatics.

    You forgeot these:

    1. If Laps doesn’t get mono and infect the entire Habs organization…

    2. If PB doesn’t trade away his entire roster of forwards for Pronger in a blockbuster deal…

    3. If the Gomez scores 80 goals this year all by himself…

    The more ifs you can stack up the more presciesnt your last line becomes. Now if you really want to put your neck out and make a bold statement cut that list of 10 down to 3 critical ifs. What are the top 3 ifs, in order of importance, that you would stake your ability on to forsee the future?



  605. JIMVINNY says:

    I have never wanted to say what I really thought about Gorges for fear of being crucified by the masses, but I agree that Gorges is slightly overrated.  His biggest attribute is his ability to take several really hard checks per game and still bounce back.  Is that really something to be proud of?

  606. ed lopaz says:

    logically speaking, the team with the fewer question marks, “ifs”, stands the better chance of succeeding,

    all things being equal. I’m trying to point out that this edition of the habs has many question marks, and in

    the most key areas namely:

    1) goaltending

    2) scoring – especially secondary scoring, 5 on 5 and and the power play

    3) nurturing the youth movement with JM as the coach.

    those would be my 3 top “ifs”.

  607. ed lopaz says:

    disagree – Gorges’ biggest attribute is his effort – which is a HUGE reason why he has become an effective

    NHL defenceman, whereas other much more talented defenceman never succeed at the NHL level.

  608. punkster says:

    There you go. I would agree with the first two and in that order of importance. I don’t believe your third item is particularly valid in that much of the talk around JM’s inability to coach younsters is likely just that…talk. A couple of key issues (the SK and OB stories) were never something I considered to be a JM failing. They are, to me, player related. One being the player’s immaturity and the other being the player’s inexperience. SK is gone and OB is still here. I fully expect JM to utilize OB in a regular role this season if OB improves on ice perfromance. My third if is on D. I think we need another young D to step up, either from the farm or through a trade.


  609. JIMVINNY says:

    Part of that effort is what I said; rebounding from massive bodychecks.  Personally, I prefer if he used more effort in an attempt to avoid said bodychecks.  He’d spend less time on his back.

  610. ed lopaz says:

    its usually because he is “taking the hit to make the play”.

    making a play on the puck that helps the team, a good pass for example, might leave Gorges exposed to

    the big hit – its true.

    but “avoiding the hit” might mean rushing the play with the puck, and coughing it up, or making an errant pass.

  611. mike g says:

    Very nice BJ…

    (man, that sounds so perverted)

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  612. SLONCOLD says:

    hand or no hands?

  613. mike g says:

    A combo is always the way to go..

    Ya don’t go to McDonald’s and only buy the Big Mac sandwich. Ya gotta get the fries and that syrup Coke.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  614. ZepFan2 says:

    K, well that answers my question about swallowing.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  615. mike g says:

    Same rules apply for that too..

    It’s a combo. If ur gonna get the trio, your gonna eat the trio and drink the drink…

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  616. ZepFan2 says:




    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  617. fbkj says:

    dude i told you that one time i voted bloq i did so purely for the lulz

    it was NDG [angry10]

  618. ZepFan2 says:


    Speak White, damn you!!



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  619. fbkj says:

    im actually going to pitch l33t as the official language of montreal to totally end the debate


  620. ZepFan2 says:

    I can’t even pronounce it and you want me to start speaking it? Get real!!

    Nice and toasty in the city today, eh. Thank God for giving us the knowledge to invent A/C. Gotta love ‘em.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  621. fbkj says:

    no kidding… chick i know in shanghai is comming home tomorrow and her fb status was “cant wait to get home and out of this heat”

    at the time she wrote that it was 32 in china… “ummmm… dont mean to break it to ya hun but ummmmm…”

  622. ZepFan2 says:


    Wecome to Hell.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  623. Ian Cobb says:

    Nice that you are going to try and make it to the fan Summit this year from Manitoba Shane. Be nice to see you again.—More Fan Summit Information

  624. 24 Cups says:

    Amateur hockey coaches mentally abuse young players.

  625. mike g says:

    No, but soon..

    I watched the Reggie Miller vs. the Knicks/Spike Lee, and just watched “The Two Escobars” for the second time. Man that story about Columbia and their soccer teams, mixed with drug lords is rediculous.

    My friend put me 9 ESPN Films on my hard drive, and the Magic/Bird one is on it. I’ll watch it soon, because “Kings Ransom”, the story about the Gretzky trade to LA is my next one for sure.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  626. Gormdog says:

    The Miller one was GREAT. Could not change the channel.


    Also saw a very good one about a young Dolphins WR who had set a bunch of school records at Colorado U, but then had his career derailed by hanging out with the “wrong crowd”. Something Betts?

    You know the heat is bad when you are too lazy to google… geez!

  627. ZepFan2 says:

    Cool. Enjoy them.

    I agree about the “two Escobars”, great doc!


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  628. c.robillard says:

    I loved this special too. It’s such a great story told by Reggie Miller and Spike Lee. It makes me wish I was a conscious, thinking human back when this stuff was new

  629. Slovak says:

    I understand but there are no real signs of getting better or fixing problems they had – yes there are some “wait and see” players – but this is no new situation, is it?

  630. Slovak says:

    Halak conspiracy baby :-)

    but except that are you sure this team is well managed?

  631. Bill J says:

    I think until we see what happens in October/November, is it still too early to determine the success of the Habs.

    The one thing that is not mentioned nearly enough is the team chemistry that developed towards the end of the season.

    With 11 new players last year, it took a while to get that going, + a new Head Coach with a new style.

    Like I said, better to wait and see IMO.  And that has nothing to do with who is between the pipes.


  632. Slovak says:

    Nearly 2 decades of “wait and see” and you still want more?

  633. Slovak says:

    better to do something before it is too late :-)

  634. Bill J says:

    Look at his name, and tell me he is not bitter about someone being traded.


  635. db says:’s only too late if you wait and see…. oy…

  636. Slovak says:

    there was 2nd World war because some people did “wait and see”…

  637. slamtherimtim says:

    i hope your right , because 2 years no captain hurts

  638. BJ says:

    Ian my money is on Gionta.

  639. slamtherimtim says:

    i think young players or any player for that matter take things in different ways , but when the guy with the C says something they tend to listen a little more or with more understanding , it’s all about leadership , although the team stands together they still need that push when times are tough and their on a losing steak , thats when a captain can step it up and get the team back together

  640. smiler2729 says:

    Another summer day, another Boone thread, another 650+ posts, Habs Fever, Catch It!

  641. crabvader says:

    Go figure, Price is rated 9.0C on that same site.

    But I dunno, I guess I’ll trust a misanthrope like Tony. Oh and all the others that can’t seem to get it out of their heads that the goaltender is the only guy on the ice.

  642. Ice Storm says:

    Does anybody have an update on Konstantin Korneev? Is he lost at sea in the KHL? Never really hear about him at all…  watched him play for Russia at the Olympics was quite good from what I saw…

    another Russian enigma? or a future in a Habs uni?

  643. crabvader says:

    He’s the real deal in Russia when it comes to cerebral, offensive defensemen.

    Too bad he’s already 26 and was drafted back in 2002.

    I don’t think he’ll be heading here anytime soon.

  644. Hockey Socks says:

    Perennial all-star… in the KHL.

  645. darcy1 says:

    Hey all — I’m looking at buying a Habs jersey with an old player’s name on it & want to put my own name over top of it.. Is there any place that I can get an authentic name plate made up?


  646. Ian Cobb says:

    Buy a plain without a name already on it. There is a ton of places that can put your name on it. I had one given to me with my name on it. Any quality sports store should be able to put your name on it.

  647. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Why would you want to do that?

  648. mike g says:

    If you go to any jersey retailer that sells authentic Reebok jerseys, they’ll have it sent out.

    I used to work at Play It Again sports, and we did it. They’ll send it to the company assigned by Reebok here in MTL. They take care of all the authentic stitching for NHL jerseys, and will cost you about 30-40$.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  649. Hockey Socks says:

    Anaheim placed Ryan Carter on waivers today. I would MUCH rather have him than Lapierre. With Eller in the fold in the bottom six, we won’t need Lapierre’s “offense” and Carter is a fantastic third liner that could also fill in on a scoring line better than Travis Moen. Great faceoff man too if playing center.

  650. mbplekfan says:

    A fantastic third liner that cant secure enough of a position to play fulltime for 3 consecutive seasons???


  651. Harani says:

    Here’s a pic of Andrei Kostitsyn’s new 2,5 million dollar mansion in St-Constant. Maybe, the older of K bros has finally decided get his act together. 

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  652. mbplekfan says:

    Maybe he will bring his wife and kid over and try to actually live here instead of just work.

  653. HabFanSince72 says:

    What an eyesore.


  654. mike g says:

    I’d pay someone 100 bux to go there and put a Remax “For Trade” sign on his lawn, once he moves in.

    lol, apart from that, nice little house ya got there AK.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  655. kempie says:

    He buys this house now? Curious timing.

  656. ed lopaz says:

    maybe – but its more likely the house is under the name, “little tits”.


    How’s Nashville treating you?

    Holy smokes, if Sergei thought Jacques was an a hole, wait til he spends a little time with Nashville.

    Trotz is like a little Stalin down there.

    And there’s some “tough love” in the room, as well.

    Not like in Montreal – where, god I love the guy but still, Gionta doesn’t exactly “scare” anyone.

    I have a teenage daughter taller than Gionta – not even close. :-))

    I love Gionta, he’s a great Hab!!



  657. darcy1 says:

    because my buddy is giving me a good deal on a jersey he doesn’t want anymore.. he’s replaced it with a newer one

  658. HabsFanInTampa says:

    What player’s number and name is on the Jersey now? Or is it blank?

  659. darcy1 says:

    It’s a Halak jersey.. he’s willing to give it to me for a 24 of beer

  660. HabsFanInTampa says:

    oh, ok. Now I understand your situation. I, personally would keep it the way it is.

  661. petrov14 says:

    I’d rock a MTL Halak Jersey!

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  662. GuyDoon says:

    I’ve read several posters talking that Halak’s equipment will be smaller than Price’s next year. I found this to be helpful to understand what the league is doing with form-fitting goalie equipment:


    There’s a written version of the video here:



    This article was also interesting.

    Here’s a quote:

    “It will have a minimal effect on a few individuals. Whether you like it or not, it should serve to reinforce the advantage that tall goalies already have in today’s game.”


  663. Nina76 says:

    I say GOOD LUCK to Price.Give him a chance the only thing that worries me is that the other teams know where to score on Price that is over the right shoulder plus to many rebounds which he has to stop………. this results in putting the puck on the other teams stick………. & stay in your net don’t wander so much…………………………………Go Habs Go!!!!!!!!!

  664. darcy1 says:

    that’s awesome.. thanks for the info!

  665. Garry Bettman says:

    My wig and I are curious. Does the aforementioned price include the removal of the old nameplate as well? And does it leave marks?

  666. Bill J says:

    careful with your answer mike, Mr. Commish may get Campbell involves if the NHL is losing jersey sale revenue here lol

  667. Garry Bettman says:

    “Mr. Campbell” is actually a sock puppet of mine (I’m serious here) made by a professional in the USA.


  668. Storm Man says:

    Paul Goydos cards a 59 today……. WOW :)

  669. StevieRay says:

    Good for him .. he’s had his share of bad luck over the years..  He has a wicked lookin putter !

  670. mike g says:

     “The NY Post is reporting the Devils have offered a 17 year deal for $100M. Sure this deal is front-loaded…it will be interesting to see if Kovalchuk likes this idea or not..”


    LMAO! Omg, the NHL is becoming such a joke league. A 17 year deal to a player who’s 27?

    I really hope that article has a mistake in it.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  671. Rugger says:

    If the league allows this kind of joke to happen, it will destroy any concept of a cap.

  672. andrewberkshire says:

    If that’s true, this is an area where Bettman needs to get his head out of his ass and nix that offer. Make it illegal. That’s a joke.

  673. SeriousFan09 says:

    That deal should mean that the NJ ownership and management gets taken out behind the shed with the ‘ol double-barrel.



    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  674. The Cat says:

    This is so out of character for NJ. They were known for letting good players go and have unknowns replace them without the team skipping a beat…I dont imagine Lou L is behind this. THe ownership must be desperate to put asses in the seats or something.

  675. Ed says:

    Subban wins AHL’s President’s Award.


  676. estilan792 says:

    I often read your blog and always find it very interesting. Thought it was about time i let you know…Keep up the great work

  677. 24 Cups says:

    It’s a shame that Hockey’s Future can’t be updated on a more regular basis.  Even when it’s updated (like this article posted by SeriousFan09) it’s still out of date.  Eller doesn’t even make the top 20 list of prospects and Fischer comes in at #10.  As well, many of the player profiles have no info regarding the 09/10 season.

    I realize it must be a daunting task to cover 30 organizations, but HF tends to be an outdated site. 

  678. ed lopaz says:

    if you follow the logic on this site, it goes something like this:

    1) keep the young goalie, because he’s cheaper and has more upside

    2) sign the young goalie cheap, because he doesn’t deserve # 1 goalie money

    3) support the young goalie at all costs, because he’s our # 1 goalie, after all.

    4) oops, forgot to mention, good goaltending is over rated anyhow, so it doesn’t matter who plays goalie

  679. likehoy says:

    don’t forget price has more size!

  680. andrewberkshire says:

    This site has logic?

  681. The Cat says:

    The NHL seems to be shifting toward number 4. I think were on our way to seeing 5-4, 6-5 types of scores be the common fare in the coming years, which is a shame really.

  682. camel_larry says:

    I wonder what the holdup with Price is?

    I mean, obviously it’s not a money issue, he didn’t file for arbitration.

    Some people can negotiate a contract within an hour or 2, on free agency…

    Maybe he doesn’t want to sign here? What if he’s waiting for an offer sheet?


    Go Habs Go!

  683. Danno says:

    He’s demanding a solid gold hat and a lifetime supply of apricot nectar.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  684. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m guessing term is what’s going back and forth between the camps, Price and his agent can’t be expecting a big payday but they might be shooting to ensure he’s an arbitration-eligible RFA or a UFA when the next contract ends for a bigger payday.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  685. Bill J says:

    He does not have arbitration rights, Halak did.


  686. ed lopaz says:

    i think they will eventually agree to 1 year and about 2 million.

    Re-assess after 1 year.

    It would decrease the risk for both sides.

    If the Habs win hockey games, Price will get the credit, and he will be able to demand a better salary next summer.

    If the Habs lose more than they win, Price will be blamed, and it could possibly mean the end of Price in this town.

    The risks are very high.

    The contract should have been signed BEFORE the Halak trade – no question.

    This has hurt the Habs negotiating significantly.

    WHo here doesn’t think that Price believes he is a better goalie than Halak?

    Price has been told all of his young adult life – WJC, AHL, NHL, that he was a star.

    Think he doesn’t feel that he should get AT LEAST AS MUCH as Halak?

    That’s part of the problem.

    Especially since the habs traded halak so that they could GIVE Price the # 1 spot.

    it is therefore logical to conclude that the habs believe that Price is at least as good or better than Halak.


  687. Bugs says:

    Offer sheet?

    From who? Woulda been done already, no?

    What team wants to pay enough that we don’t match AND give us 1st round picks to boot?

    For a goalie who hasn’t won the number of playoff series in two years that Halak has in one?

    No need to fear the offer sheet, imo.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  688. crabvader says:

    VIA Eklund:

    * Glen Metropolit may be a Leaf or a Panther sooner than later…and a
    perfect pickup he would be …I also hear he may stick in Montreal (the
    Habs would be nuts to not bring him back, in my opinion)



    What a clown. The only person who is nuts is Eklund himself. If he really did do his research, he would know Gauthier said he wasn’t bringing back METROPOLIT, MOORE or MARA.

    I mean does this guy chew on rocks for breakfast?

  689. andrewberkshire says:

    He’s also completely insistent on LA trading Wayne Simmonds and a prospect or 1st round pick to Toronto for Kaberle, which is insane. Lombardi loves Simmonds, and he isn’t going anywhere for a player LA doesn’t need.

  690. deuce6 says:

    Hmm..Another Leaf rumour from this sap..Think he’s just trying to cause traffic?

    Adding Metro would be really counter productive to what the Leafs are trying to do there..Why add youth and then go out and over pay for a 36 year old broken down hockey player?

    EK is a joke and I still do not know how he gets away with “stealing” people’s money by posting fraudulent garbage and fabricated rumours..

    My advice is just to stay away from that site..If he doesn’t get his hits, he will fizzle out from the world of the internet..

  691. WarHero says:

    I thought the quips about Price and our interest in Fedecrapo were funnier. lol


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  692. HabFanSince72 says:

    Eklund’s goal is to generate traffic to his site, not be a journalist.

    When you visited his website (knowing that any information there is certainly worthless) you made money for him.


  693. simons943 says:

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  694. camel_larry says:

    Fine. Let PG say “make it a gold plated hat and plum nectar and it’s a deal”.


    Go Habs Go!

  695. TripleX says:

    He is demanding a new iPad and iPhone with unlimited data plan.  PG looked at what Rogers wants for such a plan and fainted.


    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  696. fbkj says:

    rogers doesnt offer unlimited :(

  697. SeriousFan09 says:

    If Rogers ran the NHL, it would cost 300$ a seat to watch the Panthers.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  698. camel_larry says:

    Ohh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.


    Go Habs Go!

  699. Bill J says:

    Sorry SF09 below summed it up well below me, so mine was more of a lame double post admittedly lol

  700. likehoy says:

    to be honest…these were drills that did not require a lot of hustle…but palushaj definitely stood out cause he wanted to be doing stuff all the time…and he stayed the longest afterwards.

    actually ryan white too was working hard…he was working on a quick release one-timer and shooting top shelf from just outside the blue paint during the free skate (5-6feet out?)…he’s working on becoming a good grinder and in front of the net player.

  701. ed lopaz says:

    thanks for the update. much appreciated!!

    I should have gone down there but I hate crossing the Champlain Bridge.


  702. SeriousFan09 says:

    White picked up the Workhorse of the Game (to go along with 3 Stars selection) at a few Hamilton Bulldogs games this year. I remember watching him and Subban drill together in pre-game warmup, Subban would feed him one-timers while he would stand around the net and knock them in. I always found him a relentless player on the ice, a line I really liked watching was Pacioretty, Palushaj and White, very aggressive, very punishing, a very solid checking line if I ever saw on.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  703. likehoy says:

    gallagher’s tiny…sort of the same build as cammalleri but i didn’t pay too much attention to him…saw him shoot though and his shot is wildly inconsistent…sometimes he’d snipe one off the post and in…and sometimes he’d a weak one along the ice, he’s far from being NHL ready.

  704. ed lopaz says:

    not sure you can actually “see” Gallagher from the stands without binoculars.


  705. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wasn’t exactly expecting our 5th-rounder to be NHL-ready, anyone taken after round 1 is almost a guaranteed 3-4 year project, I was interested in his skating and shot, I like the idea of a new Cammy or Gionta in the system in a few years. Gallagher’s got at least a couple more junior seasons ahead of him I imagine, plus AHL time.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  706. namgel says:

    Three more posts to make 600.

    Here’s one


  707. Danno says:



    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  708. Danno says:



    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  709. crabvader says:

    I know!

    Why would Lombardi be willing to give up a first and one of his best physical prospects who can also score for Kaberle?!

    He has Doughty who can easily run his offense and Doughty is also more physical.

    It makes no sense to trade away your future for insurance on the blue line.

  710. andrewberkshire says:

    Especially when LA has Teubert and Hickey who are nearly NHL ready.

  711. Bugs says:

    You did it, Danno!

    You know what to do now: Book it.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  712. secretdragonfly says:

    Post of the day, right there!!!!!