Live tonight on RDS!

In a one-hour special, Maxim Lapierre announces where he’ll be playing this season.

Informed sources say the choice has been narrowed to Montreal or Montreal.

• Hockey’s Future assesses the Canadiens’ draft (shout-out to SeriousFan09)

• Matthias Brunet on draft-day screw-ups

• In Pat Hickey’s column, Paul Kelly defends college hockey

• A Jarred Tinordi feature at ruefrontenac.com

• Four Habs Fans has home video from camp

Kovalchuk komedy kontinues

Down Goes Brown summer reruns

Glen Sather orders a pizza

• A must-read: Homophobia and Discrimination in Hockey

839 Comments

  1. The Teacher says:

    When I head about the proceeds going to the Boys and Girls Club of America, I wasn’t bothered anymore. Does it mean I will watch, nahhhhhh.

  2. Rugger says:

    How many more years till Carey changes from RFA to UFA?  Hopefully new contract would end when he is still RFA (even with arbitration) to make it somewhat more likely he will then be signed long term.

  3. The Teacher says:

    I think his Stanley Cup ring might be blocking one of his ears so he probably didn’t hear you :)

  4. The Teacher says:

    Personal opinion- Who cares!

  5. Chuck says:

    I passed up an opportunity to head up to Ottawa to see them last night, since I thought that I had tickets for tonight. Then a call from my friend this morning saying that he forgot to order them… now everything is sold out.  :(

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  6. HFX-HabFan says:

    I’m a tad bored, so I went and looked it up.  Montreal is one of only 8 teams in the league to make it past the first round 3 or more times in the last 6 years.  Of those other 7, only Detroit and San Jose have done it more than three times:

    Montreal (04,08,10), Pittsburgh (08,09,10), Philadelphia (04,08,10),  in the East

    Detroit (04,07,08,09,10), San Jose (04,06,07,08,10), Vancouver (07,09,10), Anaheim (06,07,09) and Colorado (04,06,08) in the West

  7. The Teacher says:

    I agree this trend of giving one-year contracts is not impressing me. I also agree that giving Price more than 2.25 million would be giving too much. We have shown faith in him(management) and he should reward us with a 4-year 8-9 million dollar deal.

     

    Keep in mind, if he gets more than that, I won’t hate PRICE for it and slag him incessantly. I will not be very appreciative of management if they are not wise with their money.

  8. SmartDog says:

    The Sens just signed Corey Locke to a 2-year 2-way contract.  When did we lose Locke and for what/who?  I forget.

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    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  9. Rugger says:

    Just downloaded the Lowell, MA show from last week (3 miles from home but couldn’t go).  The vocalist they added sounds eerily like Jerry.

  10. Rugger says:

    In isolation, agreed, great addition.  Now what to do with the other 9 D-men under contract for $20M+.  Kaberle will eventually be gone but still too many.

  11. SlovakHab says:

    5’9, 195 lbs.. I think of Marc-Andre Bergeron without the shot.

  12. Chuck says:

    Way off topic, but does anyone have an extra ticket for the Furthur show tonight at Artpark in Lewiston, NY?

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  13. Slovak says:

    ok I take that – half times of last 6 seasons to go through first round is good enough.

  14. SmartDog says:

    HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH FOR PRICE?

    Jaro signed for 3.75 million…. and we keep hearing that he would’ve been a LOT more than Price.  But for me, the way Gauhtier has played this Price is going to get some ridiculous and undeserved amount of money.   Anything over 2.25 million is too much for Price and un-earned.  But I’m guesssing he gets 3 million for 3-4 years. Which is too much, but Gauthier’s given his agent all the cards. 

    And I HOPE it’s not a 1-year contract (like Gauthier’s done for other players) which is like the teacher telling you which day the test will be on, and by the way, what questions are on it. This 1-year stuff is like giving players a do-over until they have ONE really good year they can hang an inflated contract on. It’s stupid.

    PS: The Glen Sather orders a Pizza thing is good for a chuckle… at least we’re not THAT bad.  Well… let’s not go there. 

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    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  15. Slovak says:

    ok if you compare good and bad trades, where you got more names?

    93 seems to be the “latest positive date” except the previous season, is it right?

  16. HabFanSince72 says:

    DGB is occasionally funny, but when he tries to make fun of the Habs he gets a bit strident.

  17. SuperStarz says:

    aww crap that means i’m going to miss the king james live special where he’s telling everyone he’s going to the heat

  18. WarHero says:

    Some of you may not like this but I got to give Brian Burke some props for signing Brett Lebda. A very underrated former Wings D-Man.

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  19. HFX-HabFan says:

    In the last 6 seasons, they made the playoffs 5 times.  Of those 5 times, they made it to at least the second round 3 times.  Again, only a handful of teams could say the same thing.  You’d be surprised. 

  20. Slovak says:

    for me PLAYOFF TEAM means to go further than first round… it means they can really compete with playoff teams – not just being easy shot for others. How many times in last 6 seasons HABS did go to at least 2nd round?

  21. Clay4bc says:

    I actually read an article yesterday that said Lebron approached them…someone posted the link here

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  22. HFX-HabFan says:

    Curiousity got the best of me so I looked it up.  Larouche was traded in the ’81-’82 season to the Whalers for picks, one of which was Petr Svoboda, a name you should be familiar with.  Svoboda was a reliable defenseman for us for years, including a Cup win in ’86.  He then went to Buffalo for Kevin Haller, who was a reliable defender on our Cup-winning team in ’93.  I’d say we won the Larouche trade- our team did far better than Hartford in the years immediately after/all the time, and our return was far better than theirs was.

    Side note- Larouche was the first player to score 50 goals in a season with two different teams.  We dealt him away and easily won the trade.

  23. HFX-HabFan says:

    They’ve made the playoffs 5 of the last 6 seasons, that’s fairly regular I’d say.  Only a handful of other teams could say the same thing.

    Remember Pierre Larouche?  Dude was a pure sniper, a 50 goal scorer who played in Montreal in the late ’70s and early ’80s.  He won a couple of Cups with the Habs.  We dealt him away to Hartford in like ’82 for prospects/picks (sound familiar?).  Montreal won their divison multiple times and was a perennial playoff team for the rest of the decade (including a Cup in ’86 and a Cup final in ’89), and Hartford was always a mediocre playoff bubble team. 

  24. KGB_AKA4787 says:

    What if Crosby or Ovechkin was to make a announcment on RDS tonight that he was going to sign with the Habs, would you watch it, not for nothing but I think all of Quebec would be tuned in.

    Where does Miami heat have the balls to sign Bosh, Wade, and Lebron

     no Guts no Glory

     

    Go Habs Go

  25. arcosenate says:

    While I am sure the immense amount of money that will somehow trickle down to the boys and girls club of America will no doubt benefit tens of people, it’s a waste of time.

  26. Bill H says:

    Hey, I hear ya!  Thank god we have found the true meaning of life – posting on a hockey blog in mid July.  LOL

  27. Garry Bettman says:

    “Maxim Lapierre announces where he’ll be playing this season.

    Informed sources say the choice has been narrowed to Montreal or Montreal.”

    HAHAHA!

    Thats what YOU think! But there will be no Montreal! Only Kansas City!

    The United States are an unserved market, you know!

  28. Habsrule1 says:

    To be honest, somewhat, yes.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  29. pic1983 says:

    Essentially its an hour long interview with lebron james, and I read that the proceeds from advertising are going to the boys and girls club of america.  As full of himself as he is, Lebron definitely does his part for the community.

    Also, I dont think lebron approached ESPN and asked them to do a one hour special, it seems more like something ESPN would ask of lebron because its a slow time for sports right now. 

  30. Slovak says:

    Great owner or manager would make it somehow to keep him close…

    What about other MANY great players that HABS let go while keep saying the team will do better without them? Never happened, am I right?

    We can debate this thing for hours but I BELIEVE HABS SHOULD BE REGULAR PALYOFF TEAM

    are they? If not why?

  31. Mr. Biter says:

    That’s why the Habs first round pick this year should stay at Harvard and get his degree. See Dave Fischer our pick from 2006. Maybe things would have been different if he would have played Junior but drafting is allways a crap shoot so sometimes you never know what you get 3-4 years later. In regards to Fischer I checked his Stats and they decreased each year he played for the Gophers.

  32. ed lopaz says:

    I agree with you. I have been a Habs fan for many, many years – and it will never stop.

    But when I see certain things happen, I get really pissed – that’s my nature.

    I am not the guy who says – “oh, well. maybe if we keep “building”, by 2013, we will compete”.

    No. I am not that guy.

     

     

     

  33. SensFanSpezza says:

    They actually do that where I live.  During the winter, kids have their gym periods on the rink which is right across the street from the school.

  34. Slovak says:

    Don’t blindly support anyone’s mistake.

    If it turns out to be real mistake and it starts to hurt, you might end up looking like <strike>an idiot</strike> a fool.

    If you only see the whole donut with the hole – it would be better world out there… try it :-)

  35. SlovakHab says:

    FHF have some footage from the Habs development camp.

  36. Rugger says:

    They let him go because Martin had just brought the Habs to there best play-off success in 17 years in his first year under contract so you do not then fire him, so options were to offer asst coach position which he turned down, refuse to let him out of his contract which would be both unfair to Boucher and send a bad message to anyone the habs try to hire for future coaching positions or let him walk.  There is a lot of talk about how uncaring the Habs management is, letting Boucher persue an NHL head coaching spot was the right thing to do for Boucher.

  37. arcosenate says:

    Have people’s lives become that empty that an hour long television show on where some douchebag athelete chooses to play and get paid $5 trillion dollars for it somehow fills the void?  I mean, when the people who actually watch this utter tripe are on their deathbeds however many years from now, won’t they have the sense of regret to admit to themselves that just maybe they would like to get that hour back and use it for something a little more worthwhile?

    The end really is near.

    Probably just as well judging by this.

  38. pic1983 says:

    Not really.  Carey price is a competitor.  He also understands dollars and cents.  Hes year older, a year more mature, and I think a good half-season of riding the bench taught him a few lessons.  I’m sure he comes in fired up this year and performs admirably.  If the players in front of him can give him some goal support, hes going to win a lot of games also. 

  39. Slovak says:

    I understand that, but on this site it sometimes seems like everythings is fine no matter what…there is always something possitive on any mistake that HABS management does.

    But in the end it is great to be a fan – blind or open eyes, thinking or not thinking, more educated less educated, doubter or believer…the problem is they don’t listen to each other…

    However I believe that the “general fan mind” is more close to get pissed off than to say again and again and again “Yupie maybe next year we will be better”

    It is great to hear that something is happening… because fans have the ultimate power – the game is all about them, you and me.

     

  40. SLONCOLD says:

    ya well we barely made the playoffs last year and made one heck of a playoff run with the help of a hot goalie.

    bigger, stronger, more potential, past success… big deal and who cares because the nhl is all about what have you done for me lately.

    if the habs continue to have scoring problems (2.64goals/game) price will have to be 2.64 or better for the team to be a 500 team… and if he has a 2.77gaa with a high save percentage we will miss the playoffs. our defense is getting up there is age as well and won’t be blocking shots liek they did in the playoffs…

     

  41. SlovakHab says:

    Don’t criticize anyone’s work before you see the actual results.

    If they succeed, you might end up looking like a fool.

  42. Bill H says:

    From the article on Kovalchuk:

    Several sources familiar with the situation but not authorized to talk
    publicly said Kovalchuk hasn’t compromised on an average annual value of
    $10 million, close to the NHL-leading $9.538-million average
    Washington’s Alexander Ovechkin earns in a 13-year deal.

    The Kings say they can’t accommodate Kovalchuk, retain their core and
    bring in the support players necessary to become a consistent Stanley
    Cup contender.

    Good on LA Kings for not getting seduced by the obvious but short term advantage of signing a big star UFA.  They are a young club building for the future. Signing Kovalchuk now at the expense of one of their drafted stars in a year or two makes no sense at all.

    That’s not a knock on Kovalchuk.  He’s smart to shop around for the best deal.  He wants long term and he wants the big bucks that a perenial 40 goal scorer can command.  He prefers the NHL over KHL, and he doesn’t want to spend the rest of his career playing in an empty rink like Atlanta.  He would be stupid to do anything less than what he is doing right now. 

  43. Slovak says:

    Someone with heart, skills, balls and energy – is it possible?

    Example:

    Coach like they got in Detroit and manager like they got in Detroit.

    Pardon me, why did they let Boucher go? Is it the same reason for Halak, for Koivu, for Kovalev, for…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    ……………………………………………………………. What is the reason? Money or Cap space or space ship one or deep space Start trek new series?

    :-)

  44. JIMVINNY says:

    The pressure is there.  Point finale.  Being nervous about it is going to help anything.

  45. ed lopaz says:

    as I said, indestructible fans are GREAT FANS – I have no problem with your attitude; its commendable.

    but you should know that the “local” fans are quite puzzled and frustrated.

    for example, as I mentioned far below on the page, Price and AK 46 are on the “bubble” – as far as I see it.

    I’ve seen that “bubble” burst, and it isn’t pretty.

    Should Price and AK 46 do well, than, in typical Montreal hockey tradition, the fans will roar with their approval.

    Should Price or AK 46 falter, well, I’ve seen Robinson and Lafleur get booed, and Price and AK 46 are no

    Robinsons or Lafleurs, thats for darn sure.

    I was just trying to explain to Slavak the dynamics of his “indestructible” fans theory.

  46. SLONCOLD says:

    “Price because he is younger, bigger, stronger, and cheaper.”

    uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. you’re not at all nervous about all the pressure being put on price?

  47. krob1000 says:

    I agree that these problems occur much younger and by the time the kid is 16 years old…..it is pretty obvious in most cases who is college/university material and who is not.  Minor sports and life in general with most families having two working parents and the chaos of everyday life make schooling and early learning a challenge but it is doable.  The elite level athlete even at early ages have to learn to balance (in reality it is their parents who need to do this as kids are kids).  I wish there were more programs available where athletes at a youunger age could get their ice time in during the day at school and learn they have to go hand in hand.  That would be ideal but funding limitations make it impossible and programs like that are only accessible if you have the big dollars to send a kid to a Hockey Factory like St Mary’s (Crosby, Parise, Toews,etc).  I know there is a similar program for baseball in Quebec somewhere that has produced several major leaguers over recent years.

      Athletics should be tied more to schooling during the day so that when the day is done kids can be kids and as you said not driving 2 hours each way to play 10 minutes of game time.  Outdoor rink seasons are getting shorter every year and the most criminal thing fo all is that most rinks go unused during the day yet for “prime time” there is almost always an ice shortage everywhere you go……millions spent on these arenas by taxpayers and they sit vacant all day …… schoool should tap into this hardcore but they don’t.  I know I would have been far motivated to excel academically if it was linked tighter to sports. 

  48. Habsrule1 says:

    Ed, I lived in Montreal for the first 30 years of my life, and probably speak better French than you, and still have lots of family there and go back often (I’m just down the road before Ottawa).

    All you are doing is stating that the average Habs fan gets upset for nothing, and you’re right. the fact is most of these same fans were upset at all the changes last year as well, and voiced their displeasure. Many of them were really upset to see Kovalev go, but I tend to think the Habs management knew better.

    I have no problem with any fan questioning the Habs’ moves, but that’s different from constantly bashing the Habs’ management because they are doing things differently than the average fan would. I personally see no logic in b!tching before we even see this team play a few games.

    Read my signature….says it all.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  49. Rugger says:

    who do you suggest?

  50. derfab says:

    If these kids were training and playing during the day at school, they would not spend all of their evenings weekends and vacation time being driven from one arena to another, would learn to read, would have time to study and do homework, and could, in the majority of cases, go to a college and continue to play competitive hockey. Minor hockey is, presently, a wasteland, and one reason why most of our kids prefer to chill elsewhere.

    character is derfab destiny.

  51. Slovak says:

    I am happy they played like a team with one heart but

    If HABS got better person at driver’s seat – you don’t have to use terrible words as “wait” , “try” , “will see” after that great season – do you?

    How many times in last decade did you say that magic formula: “Wait and see” ???

     

  52. ed lopaz says:

    Slovak – the fans who are ‘indestructible” are a few dozen posters on this site.

    Many of them do not live in Montreal.

    Many of them do not follow the French media, and the “local” Quebec mood towards the habs and habs management.

    These “indestructible” fans are GREAT FANS!! – I totally agree; because they not only support the team, they

    support each and every move that management makes.

    But……

    I will tell you, first hand, from Montreal, and representing the French media / francophone Montreal / Quebec

    region fans, that many fans – thousands and thousands – are very upset about how this summer has gone.

    These fans – and they are the ones who have season tickets, who fill the local bars night after night, are

    very suspicious of the logic being used here.

    These are also good fans – but they are NOT indestructible; not at all.

    That’s the way I see it from here.

     

  53. Habsrule1 says:

    They finished in the FINAL FOUR! I know only The Cup matters, but be happy we were better than 26 other teams. You did not think that would happen last summer and you don’t think it’ll happen now, but can we please just wait and see?

    I think we’ll finish with 5-10 more points than last season, and by then we should know how likely we are to win a couple rounds again.

    By the way, i loved our players last year too, but the point is they are not Habs anymore. I wish them the best, but when they play against the Habs, i’ll be cheering for OUR guys.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  54. krob1000 says:

    Not necessarily true…I know several players who played junior hockey here with the Frontenacs and had a year of university paid for for each season they played in the OHL.  Many who play here even take classes while they play in their later years…obviously full time is not possible given the heavier schedule demands of the CHL but many take classes and then when they are done many go on to have their university paid for and proceed to play university hockey as well.  Soem hockey palyers are just not cut out for university and that is true of any segment of the population…from my experiences with the guys I have known the guys who are university material….end up going to university ….the ones who are not….do not….the hockey players that are good enough…continue to play hockey.

  55. derfab says:

    Time to get fully subsidized hockey and paid coaches into the schools. Local programs no longer work because they are too expensive, too time consuming and often run by incompetent people (junior hockey included).

    We need to get our best athletes playing our sport at an early age just as we need to give them another reason to show up, learn discipline and navigate through the classroom nonsense they will inevitably be subjected to on a daily basis.

    character is derfab destiny.

  56. Slovak says:

    To take a bite is one of those great creative solutions…

    Unfortunatelly HABS management aka money suckers are not creative

    They can only thank to GOD they got fans like you guys – indestructible

  57. pmaraw says:

    i doubt either of them will be the best goalie.  i really hope price pulls it together tho and learn to make saves when the team needs him to.

  58. dh says:

    I don’t think that it’s insane for “people who say that they are fans” to support the players that worked hard and played with a lot of heart. 

    I’m not saying that the team is worse (or better) than last year but it seems normal to me that people would support Halak, Moore and Metro.  The same as they supported the players that got cut last year.

    I also wonder how a coach can get players to play with that much heart when they see what happens. 

  59. TommyB says:

    In the article from Hickey’s column….Paul Kelly says, “The problem with the CHL is that it talks only about its success stories.  They don’t talk about the youngsters who don’t make it.”  Such a true statement, that is.  In Junior, if you don’t make it a lot of players hit the wall.  After their junior careers are over, and they went undrafted, or they were drafted but didn’t make the cut, many of these players have nothing left to show for all those nights of riding the buses and drinking beer.  For quite a few of them, the only thing that changes is they don’t ride the bus anymore.   At least with the College option, should they find their hockey careers are over,  a player finishes his career with a degree and a future.   I’m not calling this the template for all CHL players, but it does apply to many of them.

  60. Puck Bard says:

    Do you really want to? A waste of valuable time.

  61. Puck Bard says:

    Yes, the dominos rested with Metropolit. Without him it all comes crashing down. 

    We are just as good as we were last year, and just as vulnerable. 

  62. Rugger says:

    I am at work, but it is my home office, so not sure that counts.

  63. 123456 says:

    wait just a minute – am i the only actively at work habs fan using company resources to post messages??

  64. Ian Cobb says:

    Only way to live my friend. Say hi to Shawn for me.

  65. Habsrule1 says:

    First of all, any way to administer a shock to anyone who mentions the blues new goalie?

    I have to laugh when I read G-Man saying the goalie and role players who got the Habs to 4th best are gone.

    The role players are being replaced with other role players. There was no way to know if the ones we had would do as well this year anyway. It’s not like they all have sparkling careers, hence the term role player. As for the goalie, the Habs are banking on Price because he is younger, bigger, stronger, and cheaper.

    It is just insane how people who say they are fans can be negative before the players even hit the ice. I’m not saying to have blind faith, but at least wait. you are all the same people who said all last summer and into the season that the Habs would miss the playoffs or get bounced in the first round….4 straight!

    Wait until they actually suck to say they suck!

    Or you can BELIEVE.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  66. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – I golfed the past three days in this heat so today I’m taking it easy and sitting by my pool.  Shawn is taking his boys fishing and then dropping by my place for a beer and a dip in the cement pond.

  67. Ian Cobb says:

    Going to have to ask a cop for help on this one!

    More Fan Summit Information

  68. BJ says:

    Two ways to look at it Ian. Either the hole appears to expand or the donut is multiplying.

  69. Ian Cobb says:

    BJ– if you were to cut the donut in half, would the hole disappear?

  70. BJ says:

    Sorry the above comment should have been a reply at the very start of this blog. Maybe the absolute rises to the top?

  71. BJ says:

    In terms of absolute consciousness you are both the hole and the donut but primarily the hole in which the donut appears. Take a bite…..

  72. Ian Cobb says:

    Steve! should be here sitting around my pool here with me, talking Habs, with ice cold drinks in our hands and watching our great looking women paddling around in the water. Only an hour drive!

  73. 24 Cups says:

    “#10 – NHL GM’s go online to prepare for the trade deadline
    This one includes a hilarious joke about Jaroslav Halak being traded, even though he’s the Habs best goalie. As if they would ever do that.”

    (Down Goes Brown)

  74. likehoy says:

    hey guys back from camp…this is what i’ve noticed (I missed the dmen portion, so I didn’t see tinordi/subban/weber)

    Palushaj: Best player there, smooth and very quick skater and was the best skater in all the drills. good shot, excellent passing and dangles during the free skate portion…downside is that he doesn’t look tough (no contact drills but just didn’t look it)

    Engqvist: smooth skater going forward…a bit of trouble skating backwards. didn’t watch him shoot.

    Eller: excellent skater…looks pretty big for his 6’1 stature…looks a little bigger and wider. Has an accurate shot, but not very fast, didn’t show off too much

    Schultz: was a surprise, he had the best shot in the camp for sure. 

    Westin: can’t shoot…failed a drill 4 times, pretty embarrassing

    Robert Mayer: he’ll be the number 1 goalie in the NHL next year, he will make us forget about halak’s heroics!.

    Tryout candidates:

    Brunelle: can’t skate, actually fell one of the drills

    Brisebois; can’t skate, can’t do cross overs at all

     

    Video to come later tonight

  75. ed lopaz says:

    who stood out as the HARDEST WORKER?

    I have attended many of these camps back over the years, over at Martin Lapointe Arena in Ville St Pierre,

    and jacques Lemaire in Lasalle,

    and I always looked for the work ethic guys – the guys that didn’t stop – looked like they ere ready to out work everyone.

    Those are the real prospects. The HARD WORKERS!!

     

  76. SeriousFan09 says:

    Did you get a look at Gallagher? I’m really interested to see what he looks like.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  77. secretdragonfly says:

    These updates are informative and much appreciated. 

  78. Storm Man says:

    Im not surprised with Schultz at all what he is going to bring to this team is something we have been missing for sometime.

  79. slamtherimtim says:

    so are we going to have a captain this year or what

  80. Ian Cobb says:

    After the New Year, if someone steps up by then!!

  81. 24 Cups says:

    If there is no captain by opening night, then I say we bring back Mike Keane as our 13 forward and give him the ‘C’ (again).  It would correct a wrong from the past and help out with the cap!

  82. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’d be absolutely shocked if there wasn’t, Gionta is my frontrunner, plus we have  names like Cammalleri, Gorges and Markov. Team has a solid leadership core, pretty sure the C will be worn again next season.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  83. Slovak says:

    I nominate all of you people, I never saw so dedicated fan base trying stay possitive no matter what.

    Interesting

  84. RGM says:

    I hope so, and I hope that his name is Josh Gorges.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  85. db says:

    Is management going to let the players vote? Or are they going to choose themselves?

  86. Ian Cobb says:

    Merek,

    We finished 4th best team in the League last year and we were well entertained most of the year as we put this train wreck together, which took the most part of the year with injuries etc. Getting there is most of the fun Slovak. Enjoy the ride my friend. It’s coming!

  87. Slovak says:

    Summertime is great, it is better to go out than to think about HABS situation. I am not pessimist but:

    Comparing to previous many many seasons I don’t see any significant positive move – SHOULD I BE NAIVE and blindly believe to those strange people in HABS management who are laughing and selling people this PURE HOPE FUTURE based on their weird dreams???

    How many more “wait and see” situations are needed? Don’t you see they only want to start another “blind hope” in people to earn more money?

    I wonder how much more you can take before you really get pissed off with management ruining all hopes again and again. Isn’t it worth to start doing something with this situation like boycott games?

    And let them know – NO I DON’T BUY IT THIS TIME!!!!

    Or maybe we can sit and sing this nice song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMDakMvB9S8&feature=fvst

    PS: Do you really feel this time something big changed?

  88. Rugger says:

    After a season when they made it to the ECF and before even seeing the preseason you are calling for a Boycott?

  89. Ian Cobb says:

    Once Lapierre and Price sign, then we are set to go. We will be the 4th best team in the league, getting better, and under the cap by a fair amount.

    Going to be a fun year. Only thing to be determined is who will make the roster from our group of kids.??

  90. G-Man says:

    You are the eternal optimist, Ian.

    The goalie and role players that made the Habs 4th are gone. This team is staring squarely at or near the basement of the conference this season, especially with the addition of Auld.

    A couple new faces from Hamilton (excepting Subban) won’t hurt, but won’t help much either.

  91. sholi2000.com says:

    Completely agree Ian.  8 weeks away :)

     

    They Call Me Shane

  92. habs001 says:

    hopefully i am wrong but somehow i do not see that once the 2010-2011 reg season ends we have the 4th best record…i think we will be looking in the 14-20 range in points…if we make the playoffs anything can happen but over 82 games this team is not even close to being a top 4 team 

  93. SlovakHab says:

     

     

     

  94. nickster13 says:

    lol ty

  95. Ian Cobb says:

    Gilbert, the only reason that I made it in life was that I never fixated on the negatives that are always present. But found the positives in every person and thing. Only way that I could sleep nights. Fear and negatives are certainly there if one needs them.—–More Fan Summit Information

  96. Ian Cobb says:

    And don’t forget! if we win more than we loose, we will be ahead of some teams. For the first time in many many years, we are a team that plays for each other and is getting better. Not like the past 15 years with recycled players running the show. We now have solid management and we are getting there one piece at a time. Enjoy the process. Winning the cup only lasts about a week or so.

  97. ed lopaz says:

    Yes – I understand how long winning the cup lasts – I was around to see quite a few cups since the early 70’s.

  98. BJ says:

    Agree. Life is like a donut, the donut or the hole.

  99. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – Which begs the question: is it going to be a beautiful, sunny summer day or a hot, sweltering beast?

    Ontario strawberries are at their peak right now which signals it’s time to switch from Rusty Nails to Strawberry Daiquiris.

    Cheers!

  100. Slovak says:

    Great :)

    Just a question: 

    Can you see the donut if you are in the hole? If no, you just have to believe the donut is out there right? And if you still just believe but you never really see the donut, what would you do?

  101. Ian Cobb says:

    Get a pair of glasses!

  102. BJ says:

    In terms of absolute consciousness you are both the hole and the donut but primarily the hole in which the donut appears. Take a bite…..

  103. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – You present a lot of valid points.  I would also add a #11.  Can Gill and Gorges build upon their fabulous playoff run from last season?  Gill has a history of running hot and cold and he’s 35.  That might be asking a lot.  The headmaster will shoot me but I would also ask if Gorges has reached the end of his potential in terms of upscale.  He’s a great ‘steady eddie’ type of guy but is somewhat overrated on this site.  He still loses some battles in front of the net and along the boards.  Just sayin’.

    I still think our season will come down to the development and performance of AK46, Pouliot and Price.  If they get their act together then we should make the playoffs.  If they stay stuck in neutral it could be a long year.

  104. SeriousFan09 says:

    I would say with Markov it was more the issue he missed the first half of the season and was missing conditioning and practice time by coming back from the injury early so he was never quite at 100% when he did start playing again. He may have to adjust his game, but he is still the smartest player on the ice for the Habs, he’ll adapt his game as necessary.

     

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
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  105. Slovak says:

    Most people do not realize both sides, they hardly realize one…

    To take a bite is just great solution – because when you see nothing – try something where you don’t need eyes – great WOW :-)

     

  106. Slovak says:

    but in the dark – there is nothing to see…

  107. ed lopaz says:

    G-man, there are many “ifs” in the scenario, and from my experience, that’s the biggest problem with this team. too many “ifs”, and not enough certainty.

    So fans can be optimistic all they want, but some of us try to analyse the situation a little more carefully than just “everything will be OK, don’t worry, be happy”.

    here are the biggest “ifs”:

    1) IF Price can play at least 60 games as a top goalie without having a meltdown when the fans will inevitably be tough on him – that’s alot to expect from a goalie that “watched” all the fun with a towel over his neck

    2) IF Markov comes back from an ACL injury and is the same world class player; he already looked much slower and less effective when he cam back from last year’s injury

    3) IF Cammaleri can continue to score – the Flyers shut him down simply by putting a big body out there; once he is shut down, where does the secondary scoring come from?

    4) IF AK 46 can grow up and be his own man now that his brother is gone;

    5) IF Pouliot can play like he did, and supply the secondary scoring, as he did when he first came over

    6) IF Auld will be handle 20+ games, and actually hold his own as the back-up goalie; some teams, like Calgary, were forced to keep playing their # 1 game after game because their back-up never won. We have learned to take for granted that we had 2 goalies to depend on

    7) If PK Subban becomes the star player quickly, and can lead the Power Play while Markov out, and contniue when Markov gets back

    8) If Eller is ready to the 3rd line center, and the 3rd line is as effective as it was with Moore – who was Gauthier’s best acquisition since he became GM – we all agreed – now Moore is gone for nothing in returrn AND we lost a 2nd round draft pick again

    9) IF jacques Martin will allow the proper development of the “youth” – including O’byrne, or will JM have 0 patience like he showed last season

    10) IF the other teams in the East who finished behind us last year  have not become significantly better in the off season, because we have certainly NOT become much better.

    Sure – if all these IFS fall in our favour – or at least most of them – than we will compete for a playoff spot.

    I don’t see the “certainty” of it, however.

  108. ed lopaz says:

    His knee injury will never take away from his hockey IQ – that’s for certain.

    His ability to skate as a world class player will also go along way towards helping the Habs win more games than they lose.

     

  109. ed lopaz says:

    I could have added many more.

    for example;

    12) who will play the point on the second wave of the power play? which I discussed yesterday.

    with Gorges you get “effort”. and his skills might peak, but its the effort that we respect, or at least I do.

    I have a 16 year old son who plays hockey as a d-man. He’s about 5’11, 190.

    I’ve told him, play like Gorges, and you’ll always be fine – because  no matter what happens you know that

    you’ve played every shift like it was the 7th game of the finals.

    re AK 46 and Price – watch out for the unruly fans, and their impact on these 2 players.

    these 2 are on the shortest of leashs.

    I have literally seen and heard, at the old Forum, Larry Robinson and even Guy Lafleur get booed.

    In Montreal, playing for the Habs is like playing baseball for the Yankees – there comes a time when you

    either produce, or the fans will force management to make a change.

    This year – Price and AK 46 have reached the fans’ limits.

     

  110. punkster says:

    You can pick any team in the league, or any team in any league in any sport, and apply an “if” list. Dramatizing this as a Habs only thing is just that, dramatics.

    You forgeot these:

    1. If Laps doesn’t get mono and infect the entire Habs organization…

    2. If PB doesn’t trade away his entire roster of forwards for Pronger in a blockbuster deal…

    3. If the Gomez scores 80 goals this year all by himself…

    The more ifs you can stack up the more presciesnt your last line becomes. Now if you really want to put your neck out and make a bold statement cut that list of 10 down to 3 critical ifs. What are the top 3 ifs, in order of importance, that you would stake your ability on to forsee the future?

     

    FREE TIMO!

  111. JIMVINNY says:

    I have never wanted to say what I really thought about Gorges for fear of being crucified by the masses, but I agree that Gorges is slightly overrated.  His biggest attribute is his ability to take several really hard checks per game and still bounce back.  Is that really something to be proud of?

  112. ed lopaz says:

    logically speaking, the team with the fewer question marks, “ifs”, stands the better chance of succeeding,

    all things being equal. I’m trying to point out that this edition of the habs has many question marks, and in

    the most key areas namely:

    1) goaltending

    2) scoring – especially secondary scoring, 5 on 5 and and the power play

    3) nurturing the youth movement with JM as the coach.

    those would be my 3 top “ifs”.

  113. ed lopaz says:

    disagree – Gorges’ biggest attribute is his effort – which is a HUGE reason why he has become an effective

    NHL defenceman, whereas other much more talented defenceman never succeed at the NHL level.

  114. punkster says:

    There you go. I would agree with the first two and in that order of importance. I don’t believe your third item is particularly valid in that much of the talk around JM’s inability to coach younsters is likely just that…talk. A couple of key issues (the SK and OB stories) were never something I considered to be a JM failing. They are, to me, player related. One being the player’s immaturity and the other being the player’s inexperience. SK is gone and OB is still here. I fully expect JM to utilize OB in a regular role this season if OB improves on ice perfromance. My third if is on D. I think we need another young D to step up, either from the farm or through a trade.

    FREE TIMO!

  115. JIMVINNY says:

    Part of that effort is what I said; rebounding from massive bodychecks.  Personally, I prefer if he used more effort in an attempt to avoid said bodychecks.  He’d spend less time on his back.

  116. ed lopaz says:

    its usually because he is “taking the hit to make the play”.

    making a play on the puck that helps the team, a good pass for example, might leave Gorges exposed to

    the big hit – its true.

    but “avoiding the hit” might mean rushing the play with the puck, and coughing it up, or making an errant pass.

  117. Ian Cobb says:

    Nice that you are going to try and make it to the fan Summit this year from Manitoba Shane. Be nice to see you again.—More Fan Summit Information

  118. 24 Cups says:

    Amateur hockey coaches mentally abuse young players.

  119. Slovak says:

    I understand but there are no real signs of getting better or fixing problems they had – yes there are some “wait and see” players – but this is no new situation, is it?

  120. Slovak says:

    Halak conspiracy baby :-)

    but except that are you sure this team is well managed?

  121. Bill J says:

    I think until we see what happens in October/November, is it still too early to determine the success of the Habs.

    The one thing that is not mentioned nearly enough is the team chemistry that developed towards the end of the season.

    With 11 new players last year, it took a while to get that going, + a new Head Coach with a new style.

    Like I said, better to wait and see IMO.  And that has nothing to do with who is between the pipes.

    😉

  122. Slovak says:

    Nearly 2 decades of “wait and see” and you still want more?

  123. Slovak says:

    better to do something before it is too late :-)

  124. Bill J says:

    Look at his name, and tell me he is not bitter about someone being traded.

    😉

  125. db says:

    ..it’s only too late if you wait and see…. oy…

  126. Slovak says:

    there was 2nd World war because some people did “wait and see”…

  127. slamtherimtim says:

    i hope your right , because 2 years no captain hurts

  128. BJ says:

    Ian my money is on Gionta.

  129. slamtherimtim says:

    i think young players or any player for that matter take things in different ways , but when the guy with the C says something they tend to listen a little more or with more understanding , it’s all about leadership , although the team stands together they still need that push when times are tough and their on a losing steak , thats when a captain can step it up and get the team back together

  130. smiler2729 says:

    Another summer day, another Boone thread, another 650+ posts, Habs Fever, Catch It!

  131. 24 Cups says:

    It’s a shame that Hockey’s Future can’t be updated on a more regular basis.  Even when it’s updated (like this article posted by SeriousFan09) it’s still out of date.  Eller doesn’t even make the top 20 list of prospects and Fischer comes in at #10.  As well, many of the player profiles have no info regarding the 09/10 season.

    I realize it must be a daunting task to cover 30 organizations, but HF tends to be an outdated site. 

  132. matraque says:

    I’m happy that Lapierre is back.

    Not enough francophones on this team… If you look back at past drafts, this team would be much better if we had picked guys like Gagné, Perron and Giroux….

    Too bad.

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    Never go Full Retard
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  133. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    …and no Quebec Anglophones, it’s a travesty!

  134. Bugs says:

    Maybe Regehr over Gagne for me…

    But can’t disagree with other two.

    Weren’t the only team to pass on’em though.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  135. crabvader says:

    The Canadiens have the 2nd most Francophones in their system after Philadelphia.

  136. fbkj says:

    no

    while having francophones is nice it should not be a priority

    making it a priority creates division

    which we already have enough of

  137. Ian Cobb says:

    Mathieu!!! You are happy that Lapierre is back because he is francophone?? Not best player available ? Who cares if he can talk on the phone or what colour his girlfriend is. He happens to be a Canadian playing for the Canadiens that’s all. Small minded people can’t see the trees for the forest.

    Your favourite is Gionta, what is up with that?  Maybe I have misunderstood!

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  138. Bugs says:

    It is a travesty.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  139. crabvader says:

    Actually, Louis Leblanc’s English is miles ahead of his French.

    West-Island kid in Kirkland, 😛

  140. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Hey, what’s up Tony?

  141. Propwash says:

    K, how about Gauthier lets Price go to another team, then REAL HOCKEY PROFESSIONALS will laugh in the team’s face on how incompetant the management is. Betcha youd like that wouldn’t ya?

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  142. Bugs says:

    Lemme see if I get this straight: we trade away our num1 goalie for a club soda and a pack of crackers and we SHOULDN’T keep our other one?

    We should only keep him for ONE year, judge his career at 23, let him go loose, and we pick up a BETTER goalie next year somehow, we don’t how, but somehow?

    That’s your plan?

    And that would NOT be a “big mistake?”

    Okaaaaay…

    Cou-cou, cou-cou, cou-cou.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  143. derfab says:

    One thing i agree with is that the value of goaltending is often little more than hype.

    One player is easier to focus on and disect, hence he is great or crap. 

    character is derfab destiny.

  144. derfab says:

    One thing i agree with is that the value of goaltending is often little more than hype.

    One player is easier to focus on and disect, hence he is great or crap. 

    character is derfab destiny.

  145. alestar says:

    I’m convinced that “Tony” is just a program that randomly assembles phrases and posts them….

    kinda link this: http://www.pakin.org/complaint/

     

    XXIV…and counting

  146. BJ says:

    At this stage whatever the Gauthier/Gainey combo have done will do its very thin ice. If results are not there re. the Halak trade Gauthier will be on the unemployment list with Boivin, as I do not think Molson will extend the leash . I liked both goalies and before jumping on the wrong goalie bandwagon lets give it a chance both ways. We should extend Price our full support and see were he can take it. We have a very entertaining team and enjoyed last season greatly. I’m also curious to see how good Boyd and Eller can be.

  147. Garry Bettman says:

    THAT, my friend, is some seriously impressive weasel-ing right there.

    Wherever did you learn?

    My wig and I should take some lessons.

  148. joeybarrie says:

    Hey Tony,

    ITS KOOLAID… not COOLAID. Its Gauthier and not Gauthieer. Season MVP, WAIT when did we let Cammalleri go? By the way. Halak was ranked a 7.0C by hockeys future, and Eller is ranked 7.5C…

    I understand why you do not see any improvements…Mostly cause your a dumbass. However, making the conference finals is pretty good. I can only hope we do as well or better next season…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  149. kool-aid says:

    you’re drinking too much of me, slow down there before you get a brain hemorrhage

  150. GrimJim says:

    Dear Bugs, Tony has never let logic get in the way of a good management/Price bashing.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  151. Propwash says:

    He’s clearly trolling, which is fine and dandy, the guy don’t know sh1t on how a hockey team is run, and is all trying to be like “lookit me, I’m anti-establishment, I must be cool!”

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  152. GrimJim says:

    If the guy is a true troll (who doesn’t actually believe what he saying but is just trying to stir up crap for the sake of stirring things up) then he really should take up acting as a profession because he has managed to stay perfectly in character and consistent despite hundreds of posts. Sadly (IMO) I think he truly believes what he’s saying… but then I always try to look at things at face value until proven otherwise.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  153. avatar_58 says:

    It’s funny I thought it was COMMON SENSE at this point that everyone agrees we need to ride Price regardless of his flaws. I mean NO goalie is going to be available next year, or the year after, etc for decent coin. Desjardins is not good enough. Ergo Price *IS* the man thanks to the Halak trade.

    I mean it’s common sense for crying out loud. They bet the farm on Carey so regardless of how next year plays out we have to watch and cheer him on, so he can become better.

  154. crabvader says:

    http://www.pakin.org/complaint?title=Mr.&firstname=Tony&middlename=&lastname=&suffix=&gender=m&shorttype=f&pgraphs=3

     

    Haha, it saves us all the trouble and as you copy and paste, it’s always a different complain… always right, though. Genius.

  155. ZepFan2 says:

    http://www.pakin.org/complaint?firstname=Halak-a-Drones&pgraphs=3&gender=c

    http://www.pakin.org/complaint?firstname=Pricebots&pgraphs=3&gender=c

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  156. kempie says:

    Very funny but not up to 242’s standards. You’d have to run it through a syntax destroyer or a moronizer or something to make it sound believable. It is very funny though. I did a Gainey one and it sounded like Mr-T below.

  157. Chuck says:

    “Moronizer”.

    :)

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  158. alestar says:

    New from Blammo: The Tonyizer 1200

     

    XXIV…and counting

  159. Chuck says:

    “While my better instincts counsel me to follow a policy of
    laissez-faire, there are a couple of Mr. Tony242’s statements I feel I
    cannot let pass. Let us note first of all that the core ethic of
    Tony242’s entourage has been its brash, unyielding nature, its
    unquestioning loyalty to Tony242, and its eternal war footing
    constantly spoiling for a fight. Get that straight, please. Any other
    thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, this
    is not a question of jujuism or fetishism. Rather, it is a question
    about how Tony242’s newsgroup postings set the intellectual and moral
    stage for a new wave of slimy policies that seek to expose and
    neutralize Tony242’s foes rather than sit at the same table and
    negotiate. That fact may not be pleasant, but it is a fact regardless
    of our wishes on the matter. We wouldn’t currently have a problem with
    neocolonialism if it weren’t for Tony242. Although he created the
    problem, aggravated the problem, and escalated the problem, Tony242
    insists that he can solve the problem if we just grant him more power.
    How naïve does he think we are? Truly, Tony242 often misuses the word
    “deanthropomorphization” to mean something vaguely related to
    exclusivism or exclusionism or somesuch. Tony242’s apparatchiks,
    realizing that an exact definition is anathema to what they know in
    their hearts, are usually content to assume that Tony242 is merely
    trying to say that he’s merely trying to make this world a better place
    in which to live. I have one final message for you before ending this
    letter: Mr. Tony242 is a sore loser.”

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  160. alestar says:

    hahahaha…I love that generator, I used to use it all the time…it’s uncanny how accurate it can be!

     

    XXIV…and counting

  161. TripleX says:

    Yes, Patrick Roy and Martin Brodeur were all hype.

    The dissatisfaction with top end goaltending is but an aberration caused by the success of the two finalists with mediocre calibre goalies.  The NHL plays follow the leader after every successful trend from goons, to goaltending, to top forwards and now to going cheap on goalies.  To say it is all hype is to ignore past history.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  162. ZepFan2 says:

    No, but Steve Penny sure was.

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  163. ed lopaz says:

    Agree completely.

    Most important position in all of sports – always has been, always will be.

     

  164. mike g says:

    Just watched another “ESPN 30 for 30 Films”….

    Those dudes down at the ESPN headquarters in Connecticut are a bunch of geniouses. These incredible sport stories, mixed with the drama and catchy music make for such great documentaries.

    Anyone who has a chance, download a few of them off a website, or watch them on Youtube.

    Exceptional films guys, trust me.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  165. ZepFan2 says:

    Did you get to see, Magic and Bird yet?

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  166. mike g says:

    Very nice BJ…

    (man, that sounds so perverted)

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  167. SLONCOLD says:

    hand or no hands?

  168. mike g says:

    A combo is always the way to go..

    Ya don’t go to McDonald’s and only buy the Big Mac sandwich. Ya gotta get the fries and that syrup Coke.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  169. ZepFan2 says:

    K, well that answers my question about swallowing.

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  170. mike g says:

    Same rules apply for that too..

    It’s a combo. If ur gonna get the trio, your gonna eat the trio and drink the drink…

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  171. ZepFan2 says:

    Separatist!

    😉

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  172. fbkj says:

    dude i told you that one time i voted bloq i did so purely for the lulz

    it was NDG [angry10]

  173. ZepFan2 says:

    Traitor!

    Speak White, damn you!!

    [winkgrin]

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  174. fbkj says:

    im actually going to pitch l33t as the official language of montreal to totally end the debate

     

  175. ZepFan2 says:

    I can’t even pronounce it and you want me to start speaking it? Get real!!

    Nice and toasty in the city today, eh. Thank God for giving us the knowledge to invent A/C. Gotta love ’em.

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  176. fbkj says:

    no kidding… chick i know in shanghai is comming home tomorrow and her fb status was “cant wait to get home and out of this heat”

    at the time she wrote that it was 32 in china… “ummmm… dont mean to break it to ya hun but ummmmm…”

  177. ZepFan2 says:

    Lmao

    Wecome to Hell.

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    – Sam Pollock

  178. mike g says:

    No, but soon..

    I watched the Reggie Miller vs. the Knicks/Spike Lee, and just watched “The Two Escobars” for the second time. Man that story about Columbia and their soccer teams, mixed with drug lords is rediculous.

    My friend put me 9 ESPN Films on my hard drive, and the Magic/Bird one is on it. I’ll watch it soon, because “Kings Ransom”, the story about the Gretzky trade to LA is my next one for sure.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  179. Gormdog says:

    The Miller one was GREAT. Could not change the channel.

     

    Also saw a very good one about a young Dolphins WR who had set a bunch of school records at Colorado U, but then had his career derailed by hanging out with the “wrong crowd”. Something Betts?

    You know the heat is bad when you are too lazy to google… geez!

  180. ZepFan2 says:

    Cool. Enjoy them.

    I agree about the “two Escobars”, great doc!

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  181. c.robillard says:

    I loved this special too. It’s such a great story told by Reggie Miller and Spike Lee. It makes me wish I was a conscious, thinking human back when this stuff was new

  182. crabvader says:

    Go figure, Price is rated 9.0C on that same site.

    But I dunno, I guess I’ll trust a misanthrope like Tony. Oh and all the others that can’t seem to get it out of their heads that the goaltender is the only guy on the ice.

  183. Ice Storm says:

    Does anybody have an update on Konstantin Korneev? Is he lost at sea in the KHL? Never really hear about him at all…  watched him play for Russia at the Olympics was quite good from what I saw…

    another Russian enigma? or a future in a Habs uni?

  184. crabvader says:

    He’s the real deal in Russia when it comes to cerebral, offensive defensemen.

    Too bad he’s already 26 and was drafted back in 2002.

    I don’t think he’ll be heading here anytime soon.

  185. Hockey Socks says:

    Perennial all-star… in the KHL.

  186. Hockey Socks says:

    Anaheim placed Ryan Carter on waivers today. I would MUCH rather have him than Lapierre. With Eller in the fold in the bottom six, we won’t need Lapierre’s “offense” and Carter is a fantastic third liner that could also fill in on a scoring line better than Travis Moen. Great faceoff man too if playing center.

  187. mbplekfan says:

    A fantastic third liner that cant secure enough of a position to play fulltime for 3 consecutive seasons???

    Pass.

  188. Harani says:

    Here’s a pic of Andrei Kostitsyn’s new 2,5 million dollar mansion in St-Constant. Maybe, the older of K bros has finally decided get his act together. 

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  189. mbplekfan says:

    Maybe he will bring his wife and kid over and try to actually live here instead of just work.

  190. HabFanSince72 says:

    What an eyesore.

     

  191. mike g says:

    I’d pay someone 100 bux to go there and put a Remax “For Trade” sign on his lawn, once he moves in.

    lol, apart from that, nice little house ya got there AK.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  192. kempie says:

    He buys this house now? Curious timing.

  193. ed lopaz says:

    maybe – but its more likely the house is under the name, “little tits”.

    Sergei!!

    How’s Nashville treating you?

    Holy smokes, if Sergei thought Jacques was an a hole, wait til he spends a little time with Nashville.

    Trotz is like a little Stalin down there.

    And there’s some “tough love” in the room, as well.

    Not like in Montreal – where, god I love the guy but still, Gionta doesn’t exactly “scare” anyone.

    I have a teenage daughter taller than Gionta – not even close. :-))

    I love Gionta, he’s a great Hab!!

     

     

  194. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think Andrei has either and if he did, I doubt he’d have left them in Belarus for the last 5 years he’s been in NA.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  195. JIMVINNY says:

    I believe she’s Canadian anyways, and he kid most certainly is.

  196. Harani says:

    He actually has a wife and a baby girl who have apparently been with him since early this year. Here is a Pic

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  197. ManApart says:

    Hey smart guy, told you so about Halak’s contract. Next time, when I speak, you listen :) Next up, how much is PG going to overpay Scarey Price? I say around 2.5 million/year.

  198. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ah did not know that, didn’t think any of the younger guys on the roster had gotten into the family life yet.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  199. TripleX says:

    His wife is named Tatiana and is Russian.  The daughter Valeriyey was born in Russia.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  200. andrewberkshire says:

    He does have a wife, and as far as I know she hasn’t come over here yet. Pretty sure he was married before he played in Hamilton.

  201. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yes, because if a player signs for a certain $ amount in one city means they’ll do it in another. I mean no one ever does that in pro sports.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  202. andrewberkshire says:

    Wow! Your superiority complex knows no bounds. Calm down Aragorn.

  203. ManApart says:

    Not sure what you’re talking about, we were talking about how much Halak would sign for, you were wrongly speculating, as usual, that the Habs couldn’t afford 5 mil a year, I said he wouldn’t get a penny over 4. You went on to talk nonsensical, again as usual, and I said we’ll see. Well there you go. it seems everytime we have a difference in opinion, my view turns out to be a lot closer to the truth than yours. Big surprise. Don’t worry, you make more sense than most of the moron regulars around here anyway.

  204. ManApart says:

    I’m very calm. It’s just fun to see all you talking heads end up being wrong and looking kind of dumb, time after time. There is a group of about 10 or 15 people on here (a huge minority thank God), that are completely out of whack most of the time and I get a kick out of making fun of their irrational, super biased ways. If they are going to critisize my valid arguements or statements to the extreme, you bet when they are shown to be wrong, I will bring it up, in the hope they learn to use their head instead of their yaps next time :)

  205. SeriousFan09 says:

    There is no guarantee he would sign here for that amount. 3.75 million in St. Louis is a lot more money than 3.75 in MTL with taxes, he and his agent could easily have asked for more based on that alone. I spoke of him costing 4-5 million per year and even than, I was off by 250k from my ranged estimate. Also, you’re not right every time you drop your ‘you’re all morons and only I can be right’. I’m pretty sure you were on the doom-and-gloom squad that said 09-10 would be an unmitigated disaster with MTL in lottery position and the team wouldn’t do anything in the playoffs.

    But tell yourself whatever you like if it makes you feel better.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  206. andrewberkshire says:

    So you’ve never been wrong? About anything? The bottom line is that none of us here are employed by the NHL, and most of us are wrong a majority of the time about everything we say. It’s fun to get it right once in awhile, but pointing out that other people got something wrong like you’re the infallible god of HIO and hockey predictions in general is so pompous I don’t know where you get off making fun of anyone.

  207. crabvader says:

    Not everyone is going to be right 100% of the time. I’m not right, Andrew’s not right and…wait… brace your ego for this: YOU aren’t right, all of the time.

    Who cares?

    All I can imagine is you gazing into your mirror hours on end, admiring yourself. You really are egomaniacal.

    What’s worse is that you are a jerk. Try treating people with respect and see how far that takes you.

    It’s easy to respect someone who is respectable.

  208. ManApart says:

    LOL. Desperate and sad you are still trying to wriggle out of being wrong. Don’t be ashamed, it certainly isn’t the first time. Halak said on Marinaro’s interview yesterday, the same deal could have gotten it done in Montreal. And your statement was “5 million”, not 4 to 5. No lying now. I was always saying Montreal would be a bubble team, which they were, and only if Halak was given the #1 spot, would Montreal have a chance at playoffs. Thought I was pretty spot on. Montreal will be a bubble team once again next season, with a better chance of missing the playoffs than not. Quote me on that. I say they finish 9th in the conference and around 18 th overall. Also Price has a very average year and the whole city calls for management and Price’s head come April.

  209. ManApart says:

    I don’t generally point out when people get things wrong, as I also do so from time to time. Only when there are big talkers, who act a certain way and aren’t keeping it real, will I bring it up, just so they maybe think twice about talking nonsense in the future. I don’t even dislike Seriousfan, he’s not bad, he just IMO, isn’t very rational and is very biased a lot of the time.

  210. crabvader says:

    But most would consider his opinion on hockey a million times before they do yours.

    SF might be combative at times but he knows his team inside and out (no pun intended). At least he pays attention to our prospect system, contracts, staff, the whole 9.

    All you’ve done so far is bicker with anyone you don’t seem to particularly like.

  211. andrewberkshire says:

    And to prove him “wrong” you’re quoting an after the fact interview where in all likelihood Halak isn’t being honest.

    If Halak took the same deal in Montreal, with escrow payments and Quebec taxes his average take-home salary in that 4 year deal would be 1.35 million. In Missouri it’s likely closer to 2.3 or more. No way in hell he takes that deal in Montreal, he’s not stupid.

  212. ManApart says:

    You don’t even know the background to anything, so commenting on it, is ignorant and off base. I respect those who speak genuinely and rationally. Those who try to call me a Leaf fan or whatnot, for speaking the truth, as I see it, don’t get such treatment, sorry. Did you ever see the way I spoke to guys like Chris or Smartdog or even a complete delusional like Ian? I speak honostly, but not like a jerk. I speak like a jerk to the other people who speak like jerks.

  213. crabvader says:

    In all fairness, Halak might’ve… but we’re talking about a guy who has Ian Walsh as his agent.

     

  214. crabvader says:

    Lol, you dismantle your own argument by calling Ian “a complete delusional”.

  215. ManApart says:

    Here’s the kind of garbage I’m talking about. The man said the same deal would get it done and that was exactly the market value for him. So he’s a liar and the market doesn’t apply to the Habs. I’m not sure how all the taxes work, I’ve heard from another guy on here, who’s friend works for the Alouettes, that it doesn’t work that way. So I’ll take Halak’s word himself over yours, if you don’t mind.

  216. andrewberkshire says:

    Allan Walsh.

    As for Halak, I highly doubt he’d take such a low payout without an absolute guarantee Price was gone, and I doubt they would trade Price either way.

  217. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well if he said it in a radio interview it must be true. I mean no one ever stretches the truth about these things or would say they planned on squeezing the management for extra money from the team they just left… Why is it that whenever an ex-player gives an interview, what they say is the absolute truth and they can’t possibly be lying? I stated multiple times that Halak would likely be in the 4-5 million range as a contract as well, I didn’t just blanket statement saying 5 million per year every time I discussed a Halak deal.

    Montreal will only be a bubble team if they’re missing most of their best players for long stretches next season, healthy the 09-10 Habs were easily good for another 12 points. I’ll call 100 points for MTL or better with the improved forward depth, team cohesion and Subban to boost our puck mobility.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  218. andrewberkshire says:

    I don’t mind at all.

    However the fact remains that Price wasn’t going to get traded, no matter what. With a player worth that much it makes no sense to sell low. So Halak wasn’t going to sign here. He can say whatever he wants on an interview with team990, but it’s completely irrelevant after the fact.

  219. ManApart says:

    C’mon bro, the guy is the worst one on here. Just off the deep end. His statements and beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with reality. The Habs have never done any move that was below outstanding. Every player on the team is the greatest in the league and the team itself is pretty much the best in the league. if you don’t see Ian is out there, then you’re lying. My point is, that even though he’s like this, I’m respectful when I speak with him.

  220. crabvader says:

    This just means you talk behind his back. That’s being a jerk. 

  221. crabvader says:

    I know.

    I’m just taking a crack at Walsh. 😛

  222. The Cat says:

    You know I dont agree. When I said Boston would be better than Montreal and would top the East two years ago before the season started, I was treated like garbage basically, mind you thats a bold prediction and not a tiny one, but yeah when it turned out I was right, I had more than earned my right to let them know about it.

  223. ZepFan2 says:

    What you said about Ian, makes you a class A jerkwad.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  224. ManApart says:

    Look, Halak would have gotten under 4 million , as I stated, and no bs excuse explanations would change that. You were off in your thinking, no biggie. like I said it’s not the first time. Maybe 3rd time in the last 3 weeks, in regards to opposing my statements. As far as 100 points lol, you’ll be hearing from me on that one, you can be sure.

  225. crabvader says:

    That has nothing to do with objectivity.

    You can understand that it’s reasonable for Habs fans to react in such a way, seeing as this is a HABS forum and you are predicting that one of their biggest rivals, the Bruins, are going to finish 1st.

    You are 100% entitled to make this opinion, but don’t expect everyone to be ecstatic that you are picking their arch-rivals to finish #1 on a Habs forum.

    Come on Cat, you really want to be the one to tell everyone to eat crow because THAT prediction panned out?

    Are you that maniacal?

  226. ManApart says:

    I said it harshly, but when it comes to the Habs, it is 100% true. To get a genuine word out of the bunch of you is impossible. Probably why I have no respect for you. Too much BS and lies and hypocricy

  227. The Cat says:

    I can see disagreement but some of the ‘gang-mocking’ was a bit much.

  228. mike g says:

     “The NY Post is reporting the Devils have offered a 17 year deal for $100M. Sure this deal is front-loaded…it will be interesting to see if Kovalchuk likes this idea or not..”

     

    LMAO! Omg, the NHL is becoming such a joke league. A 17 year deal to a player who’s 27?

    I really hope that article has a mistake in it.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  229. Rugger says:

    If the league allows this kind of joke to happen, it will destroy any concept of a cap.

  230. andrewberkshire says:

    If that’s true, this is an area where Bettman needs to get his head out of his ass and nix that offer. Make it illegal. That’s a joke.

  231. SeriousFan09 says:

    That deal should mean that the NJ ownership and management gets taken out behind the shed with the ‘ol double-barrel.

     

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  232. The Cat says:

    This is so out of character for NJ. They were known for letting good players go and have unknowns replace them without the team skipping a beat…I dont imagine Lou L is behind this. THe ownership must be desperate to put asses in the seats or something.

  233. ed lopaz says:

    if you follow the logic on this site, it goes something like this:

    1) keep the young goalie, because he’s cheaper and has more upside

    2) sign the young goalie cheap, because he doesn’t deserve # 1 goalie money

    3) support the young goalie at all costs, because he’s our # 1 goalie, after all.

    4) oops, forgot to mention, good goaltending is over rated anyhow, so it doesn’t matter who plays goalie

  234. likehoy says:

    don’t forget price has more size!

  235. andrewberkshire says:

    This site has logic?

  236. The Cat says:

    The NHL seems to be shifting toward number 4. I think were on our way to seeing 5-4, 6-5 types of scores be the common fare in the coming years, which is a shame really.

  237. ed lopaz says:

    thanks! I’ll write that down so i won’t forget next time.

  238. TripleX says:

     

    Don’t forget the quote from Scotty Bowman.  It is used like the Dead Sea Scrolls around here as the final arbitrator on any discussion about Price.  ROFL

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  239. ed lopaz says:

    And i haven’t mentioned that I was around when the Habs brass let Bowman go – he was basically told he

    was not GM material, but he could coach the team if he wanted to.

    Not sure if that’s an insult to Bowman, or to the Habs – but I know there’s an insult somewhere in there.

    Bowman was also hated by his players – they despised him.

    just a few quick notes about Bowman from someone who was alive at the time.

  240. ZepFan2 says:

    Your’e back must be sore from all the ROFL you do.

    “Don’t trade Price.”- Scotty Bowman.

    “For 58 minutes, Price
    was the best player on the ice
    , but he left the HSBC Arena as a 3-2
    shootout loser after the Sabres rallied to tie the game with two quick
    goals in the final 1:59.

    “That’s the kind of year it has been for
    me,” said Price, who was obviously not happy with the outcome.

    We
    had this game and we let it get away. For 55 minutes, we had this game
    and then we sat on our (butts) and let them come to us
    ,” Price said.”

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  241. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, then he went to Buffalo and we all saw how that worked out.

    That being said, I truly wanted him as GM over Grundman.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  242. ed lopaz says:

    dude – you should NEVER use that second quote if you support Price.

    He is basically BLAMING his team for the loss!!!

    We had this game and we let it get away. For 55 minutes, we had this game and then we sat on our (butts) and let them come to us,” Price said.”

  243. ed lopaz says:

    Grundman was a freakin joke – a businessman who had some friends in high places- what a joke!!

     

  244. The Cat says:

    Bowman had to be the most opportunistic coach of all time, kinda like Phil Jackson in the NBA.

  245. RGM says:

    Actually it’s just used as my signature.

    Don’t forget that Halak benefited from larger pads, and with the new goalie equipment rules coming into effect this year, he will suffer. Meanwhile, Price being a larger goalie, will be unaffected.

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  246. TripleX says:

    HAHAHA…I caught that as well dude.

    Poor Zep has trouble with reading comprehension I fear.  ROFL

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  247. ZepFan2 says:

    Hmm, yet oddly enough, an agent who basically speaks for his client, is allowed to tweet crap about his clients teammate!?

    Double standard much.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  248. ZepFan2 says:

    There’s that ROFL again. Sad really.

    I guess you missed the, “We” part, as in, WE had this game…

    Here’s something for you to read from the same article, smart guy.

    “I was in front of the net and I couldn’t get the puck out,” defenceman
    Roman Hamrlik said of the tying goal. “Carey played so well tonight;
    it’s too bad we couldn’t get the win for him.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  249. Natrous says:

    Price used the pronoun ‘We‘, not ‘They’ or ‘my teammates’. Where do you get this notion that he’s blaming his team (which had more to do with that loss than he did)?

  250. TripleX says:

    What is sad is someone who when called out correctly, can’t accept it graciously and with some humor.  Chill dude it is just the internet.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  251. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, and I have the supposed reading problem.

    ROFL

    😉

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  252. crabvader says:

    Some things are said out of frustration, if another forward would’ve said that, it would be ok.

    Price wants to win, can you blame him?

    I bet you his eventual salary that Patrick Roy would’ve said the same exact thing. I remember that game and Price was bang on. The team played a near perfect game and then they just let go.

  253. ZepFan2 says:

    Now it’s my turn…ROFL

    Like you did yesterday? lmao

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  254. fbkj says:

    “What is sad is someone who when called out correctly, can’t accept it
    graciously and with some humor”

    oh my…

  255. TripleX says:

    Again dude.  READING COMPREHENSION?   When called out correctly.

    You were just annoying going on and on about an unrelated point not relevant to the original thread.

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  256. Storm Man says:

    It is sad that all he does day after day is ROFL with his Halak doll.

  257. ed lopaz says:

    nothing personal.

    I’m just saying that when a team is sitting back, its NOT THE GOALIE being talked about.

     

     

  258. fbkj says:

    and just last weekend i called you out on the whole lack of objectivity re: 11 to gomez and you just sulked like a child…

  259. TripleX says:

    Are the THREE of you all room mates or something? You all seem to need to rush to each other’s defense when any ONE of you is challenged.  I don’t know if it is cute or creepy.  ROFL

    I am sure Zep can capably defend himself one to one.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  260. crabvader says:

    Lol, were you expecting some kind of grown up discussion?

    ROFL 😛

  261. crabvader says:

    Sigh, sometimes you just stick out like a sore thumb.

     

  262. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, I correctly and efficiently handed you your A$$ yesterday.

    Thanks for the memories! 😉

    Quick question. When does, ‘WE”, become, ‘My teammates’?

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  263. fbkj says:

    hes my friend no doubt but no im just calling it as i see it

    ROFL

    LMFAO

    liek wtf?

  264. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bowman was never beloved by his players on any team but they accepted it because I believe the quote was “364 days of the year we hated him, on the 365th day we won the Cup.” They hated him, but they respected him for what he pushed them to do.

    They may have told him he wasn’t GM material, but they thought Grundman was, seems like their judgement wasn’t quite up to par.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  265. ZepFan2 says:

    Never took it personally.

    You just conveniently ignored the WE part of the quote. Then went and ASSumed he was pointing the finger at his teammates even though his own teammate agreed with him. But whatever.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  266. TripleX says:

    I suggest you read Ed Lopaz and his response to that question.  He spells it out correctly and succinctly.

    Of course you will ignore the validity of it as you do any challenge.

    I ended this yesterday, yet today you continue to bring it up.  Who is the immature one?

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  267. ZepFan2 says:

    Like you jumped in when Ed Lopaz replied to me?

    It’s okay for you to reply to a post, but no one is allowed to counter your BS?

    ROFL

    ZOMG

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  268. ZepFan2 says:

    I suggest you read Natrous and his response to that question. He
    spells it out correctly and succinctly.

    You’ve been an idiot from day one, so I don’t expect any changes anytime soon.

    Btw, you “ended it” by running away like a little puss.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  269. fbkj says:

    ???

    holy hypocrite

    L
    M
    F
    A
    O
    !
    !
    ^
    !

  270. TripleX says:

     

    So typical of the whole bunch of you.  When an argument does not go your way out come the insults and childish behavior.

    All of you need to grow up and this is coming from a 17 year old.

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  271. ed lopaz says:

    I agree with your post – about Bowman and Grundman.

     

  272. fbkj says:

    where did i insult you please? you went off on me… about doing something you are equally guilty of (not that i think of it as an offence)

     

  273. ZepFan2 says:

    Typical of a BS’er to try and play the victim.

    Poor Zep has trouble with reading comprehension

    Bring back any memories?

    17 year old. That explains a lot. All full of piss and vinegar and thinks they know everything.

    Been there, done that.

    ROFL

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  274. SLONCOLD says:

    he wont suffer he uses a brians zero g 35+0.5 which is completely legal under new rules.

    carey price uses a 36+2 epic pad which is also legal. the new rule is so people liek halak can’t wear a 35+3 pad. all +2 thigh rises will be okay assuming the knee block on the pad is centered to you knee

  275. crabvader says:

    VIA Eklund:

    * Glen Metropolit may be a Leaf or a Panther sooner than later…and a
    perfect pickup he would be …I also hear he may stick in Montreal (the
    Habs would be nuts to not bring him back, in my opinion)

     

     

    What a clown. The only person who is nuts is Eklund himself. If he really did do his research, he would know Gauthier said he wasn’t bringing back METROPOLIT, MOORE or MARA.

    I mean does this guy chew on rocks for breakfast?

  276. andrewberkshire says:

    He’s also completely insistent on LA trading Wayne Simmonds and a prospect or 1st round pick to Toronto for Kaberle, which is insane. Lombardi loves Simmonds, and he isn’t going anywhere for a player LA doesn’t need.

  277. deuce6 says:

    Hmm..Another Leaf rumour from this sap..Think he’s just trying to cause traffic?

    Adding Metro would be really counter productive to what the Leafs are trying to do there..Why add youth and then go out and over pay for a 36 year old broken down hockey player?

    EK is a joke and I still do not know how he gets away with “stealing” people’s money by posting fraudulent garbage and fabricated rumours..

    My advice is just to stay away from that site..If he doesn’t get his hits, he will fizzle out from the world of the internet..

  278. WarHero says:

    I thought the quips about Price and our interest in Fedecrapo were funnier. lol

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    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  279. HabFanSince72 says:

    Eklund’s goal is to generate traffic to his site, not be a journalist.

    When you visited his website (knowing that any information there is certainly worthless) you made money for him.

     

  280. zak says:

    Where did all of Trevor timmons first round draft picks go?

    Gone to other teams every one.

  281. Chuck says:



    Congrats to P.K.!

    SPRINGFIELD, Mass – 
    American Hockey League President and Chief Executive Officer David Andrews
    announced today that the league has named the 2009-2010 recipients of several
    awards for excellence and service to the league, as well as the winners of its
    annual Team Business Services awards, recognizing outstanding achievements in a
    variety of categories including ticket sales, community service and fan
    experience.

    The announcements came Wednesday evening at a gala reception during the
    league’s annual meeting of the Board of Governors at Hilton Head Island, S.C.

    P.K. Subban of the Hamilton Bulldogs and the Chicago Wolves were named the
    2009-2010 winners of the President’s Awards, which are given to AHL player in
    recognition of his outstanding accomplishments in the past year, and to an AHL
    organization for excellence in all areas off the ice.

    In his first professional season, Subban was named a First Team AHL All-Star
    and earned a spot on the AHL All-Rookie Team after recording 18 goals, 35
    assists and a plus-46 rating in 77 games for Hamilton. Subban, who represented
    the Bulldogs at the 2010 AHL All-Star Classic, also made an instant impact with
    the parent Montreal Canadiens, registering eight points in 14 Stanley Cup
    Playoff games during the Canadiens’ improbable run to the Eastern Conference
    finals.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  282. JIMVINNY says:

    Did I miss something?  Did we trade Price, Pacioretty, Leblanc, and Tinordi? 

     

    What happened?

  283. RGM says:

    Carey Price is gone?

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  284. SeriousFan09 says:

    Except for AK, Price, Pacioretty, Leblanc and Tinordi, you’re bang on.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  285. crabvader says:

    Yup, that’s 5 years worth of 1st rounders. Has Timmins really been around much longer than that?

  286. petrov14 says:

    Kovalchuk komedy kontinues

    KKK? Not cool 😛

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  287. ed lopaz says:

    yes. as we’ve mentioned, he was responsible for the David Fischer pick and Ryan Mcdonough.

    it was a Minnesota “thing” he had going there for  a while.

    habs got this idea that drafting high school defenceman would be outsmarting everyone.

    hasn’t panned out.

  288. mike g says:

    Not a big fan of Jim Kelly, but he wrote a very interesting article on Bob Probert….

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2010/07/08/kelley_probert/

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  289. SeriousFan09 says:

    Still can’t believe he didn’t get Rookie of the Year in the AHL, those stats as a defencemen and he was named a 1st-Team All-Star, meaning they considered him one of the two best defencemen in the AHL.

    Congrats to P.K, this kid’s trophy shelf needs more room again.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  290. crabvader says:

    So Fischer and McDonagh are the basis of this argument?

    Go look at other teams’ draft records and see how many busts they’ve had in the first round around our usual position in the draft (15-25).

     

  291. ed lopaz says:

    what argument?

    you asked about Thimmens and i answered your question.

  292. Bugs says:

    Over/under the number of goals for the Artiste this year: 24.5.

    Call it.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  293. Max_a_million says:

    I was excited for free agency, but this has to be the worst free agency period ever.  For the entire league, how boring.

     

    ”Last season we couldn’t win at home and we were losing on the road. My failure was that I couldn’t think of any place else to play.” – Harry Neale

  294. crabvader says:

    I see. I was responding to the original thread being that “all of our 1st rounders” were gone.

    When you mentioned Fischer and McDonagh, sounded to me like there was some contempt and I thought you might’ve been holding that in context with zak’s statement.

    My bad.

  295. Storm Man says:

    Who is Thimmens???

  296. crabvader says:

    Assuming Spezza stays or Spezza goes? Does it matter?

  297. Max_a_million says:

    15

  298. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I was curious – every so often I’ll see someone refer to Pierre Dagenais as an example of a player who should not be emulated. What’s the deal with this? I seem to remember him as a middling player on a middling team (right before Theodore became a superstar). Was there some kind of story here?

  299. HardHabits says:

    Don’t make me bring out my tank avatar!!

  300. crabvader says:

    Blame Lebron Kovalchuk.

    He’s holding up the entire market as far as trades and signings go.

  301. Storm Man says:

    Who cares….. Next it will be how many losses the H-word get with the Blues. Lets talk about players who are on this team.

  302. TripleX says:

     

    Over!  He had 4 PP goals last season that is a HUGE aberration and with Gonchar setting his one timers up it is a guarantee.  PLUS he is in a contract year and we all know what that means.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  303. crabvader says:

    Thank you. That just never gets old, haha!

  304. crabvader says:

    Hmmm, big guy, slow as hell, missed the net a lot, never gave a decent effort.

    That about sums him up.

  305. SeriousFan09 says:

    Truculence!!!

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  306. TripleX says:

    We all know your opinion on ex players since you repeat it endlessly dude.

    If you have no interest in the thread just spare us your enlightened opinions.  No need to insult the topic or the one who starts it.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  307. ZepFan2 says:

    “No need to insult the topic or the one who starts it.”

    ROFL

    I guess you don’t practice what you preach much?!

    ROFL

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  308. pmaraw says:

    so how about getting that #1 signed already???  is anyone else concerned?

  309. crabvader says:

    As long as there isn’t any imminent time limit, no.

  310. The Cat says:

    Under…He must be close to 40 years old now?

  311. fbkj says:

    i think there should be a rule that if his pic doesnt show up in a google image search, then the nickname never stuck

    imo

  312. TripleX says:

    Now you are acting like an irrational troll dude.  Go for a walk or take your girl to the beach.  Chill.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  313. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Was there some kind of personal failing too?

  314. crabvader says:

    I can’t wait for the day when Ian Schultz makes the jump and stamps his fist into Phaneuf’s face.

  315. The Cat says:

    Hey heres a joke I just read that I thought was pretty good…

    A teenage boy had just passed his driving test and inquired of his
    father as to when they could discuss his use of the car.

    His father said he’d make a deal: ‘You bring your grades up from a C to a B average, study your Bible a little, and get your hair cut. Then we’ll talk about the car.’

    The boy thought about that for a moment, decided he’d settle for the offer, and they agreed on it.

    After about six weeks his father said, ‘Son, you’ve brought your grades up and I’ve observed that you have been studying your Bible, but I’m disappointed you haven’t had your hair cut.

    The boy said, ‘You know, Dad, I’ve been thinking about that, and I’ve noticed in my studies of the Bible that Samson had long hair, John the Baptist had long hair, Moses had long hair…and there’s even strong evidence that Jesus had long hair.’

    — his father replied, ‘Did you also notice they all walked everywhere they went? lol

  316. Storm Man says:

    Your the only one on here who repeats things on here endlessly and that is a fact. Also you have a very bad habit calling everyone dude…. Time for you to hit the beach and hang ten.

  317. SeriousFan09 says:

    You mean Tinordi? What’s the rush, we have his rights for four years if he attends Notre Dame, 2 if he plays in the OHL and even then, we didn’t sign our top prospect Subban until last summer. Teams don’t immediately sign their 1st-rounders unless they are expected to play the NHL this year. Leblanc hasn’t signed a deal yet either I would point out.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  318. crabvader says:

    I don’t think so.

    He just seemed like a dissinterested guy. We all know how popular guys like that are in Montreal.

     

  319. mike g says:

    What’s better than a rose on a piano?

    Lips on an organ.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  320. ZepFan2 says:

    Why, because I’m right?

    You have no qualms about insulting others, yet you feel the need to chastise others for the same thing.

    Practice what you preach, kid.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  321. kmachabs27 says:

    carey price…..im a little worried to right now.

  322. TripleX says:

    PK Suban explains why he is attending development camp.  You have to love his attitude and maturity.

     

    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=534028

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  323. fbkj says:

    dont let tony read this his nose may bleed

  324. The Cat says:

    PK Subban is the best. Hes going to be a superstar in the NHL.

  325. mike g says:

    Thanks to a link posted below, I went on another 20 minute Youtube roadtrip, and found these insane clips…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuAkerwZ8D0&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M01363vzfko&feature=related

    All I can say is, WOW.

     

  326. Storm Man says:

    Thanks my eyes are open now on why TripleX is the way he is. He is the kid in the first clip this clears things up.

  327. mike g says:

    This is what happend when this city was torn between Carey Price and Jaro Halak…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T_MOrnS_UU&feature=related

    Now we know why one had to go.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  328. andrewberkshire says:

    Under, he’s still not interested in playing for Ottawa. He’ll score 16 goals, 6 against Montreal.

  329. Bugs says:

    Takes special talent to ruin a two-line joke.

    TULIPS on the organ, goofball.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  330. ZepFan2 says:

    Bhahahahahaha

    That’s a classic!!

    Now THAT merits a ROFL.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  331. namgel says:

    I got into a discussion with a Leafer the other day and he bet me the Leafs will finish higher than the Habs this year. 

    The wager is a case of beer.  Non Domestic.

    Question is

    What should I get ?

  332. Bugs says:

    Can’t believe no one brought up Gonchar…

    Y’all are slippin, mates!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  333. SmartDog says:

    IN CASE YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY NOTICE….

    FOR TSN… CANADA = TORONTO

    The main item on TSN is headlined “Why Not Canada?” and is about why we couldn’t have a 7th team up here.  Skip it. The WHOLE article is about whether Toronto should have a 2nd team.

    TSN guys!  Get your fat heads out of your fatter asses!  Dumbasses. 

    The only one dumber than the stupids that work at TSN would be Gary Bettman who says “we haven’t looked at that option”.  Wow.  Proclaiming ignorance is something I look for in a 4-foot tall leader.  Now I see why he has the job. 

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  334. andrewberkshire says:

    You should have bet as much money has he has, because it’s pretty much guaranteed that he’ll lose.

  335. TripleX says:

    Newcastle Brown Ale….I steal as much as I can from my dad.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  336. namgel says:

    A new nhl franchise in the GTA would immediately become my Second Favourite Team.

     

  337. Storm Man says:

    Red Stripe or Steinlager.

  338. likehoy says:

    get domestic…molson M = awesome.

  339. alestar says:

    Does micro-brewery beer count? Get some Mill Street…they’re all good.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  340. Puck Bard says:

    Sorry to talk you down from the ledge SD, but TSN has been running all the coverage on the Globe’s multi-part series on prospective Canadian cities:

    http://www.tsn.ca/whynotcanada/

  341. andrewberkshire says:

    Let’s bring it back to the old days of HIO for a minute, with the current roster, including AHL players and prospects, what are your ideal lines for next season?

  342. TripleX says:

    Ummmmm….really?

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  343. HabFanSince72 says:

    I presume Quebec counts as non-domestic to a Leafer. I recommend a Dieu du Ciel sampler.

    If not, then check out New Hampshire’s Smutty Nose brewery.

     

  344. HabFanSince72 says:

    HA HA.

     

  345. SmartDog says:

    Well then never-freakin-mind!

    (They’re still a-holes.)

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  346. WarHero says:

    That’s only part 1, there will be 6 parts. Other cities and locations will be discussed.

    ————————————————————————

    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  347. likehoy says:

    cammy – pleks – AK

    poupou – gomez – gionta

    eller – trotter – pacioretty

    pyatt – lapierre – moen

    (boyd)

     

    Markov – O’byrne

    Spacek – Subban

    Gill – Gorges

    (Hamrlik)

     

    Robert Mayer

    Carey Price

  348. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yes. Partied with Ribeiro and Theo too much.

    It didn’t affect him but it probably hastened the other two’s departure.

     

  349. avatar_58 says:

    Wasn’t someone complaining about Subban at camp?

     

    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=534028

     

    Funny, seems like it doesn’t bother him and he knows his place.

  350. HabFanSince72 says:

    Most likely under, but I’m always surprised at how much Hab so-called fans have turned on Kovy.

    He was a good one.

     

     

     

  351. Habsrule1 says:

    Ed, seems you get upset about the facts concerning Price.

    Fact:

    He’s bigger.

    He’s stronger

    He’s younger.

    He’s cheaper.

    The rest is still up in the air, but many very astute hockey minds believe he will also be better. Let’s cheer for him cause he’s a Hab and wait and see.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  352. avatar_58 says:

    lol damnit, I just posted this because I didn’t see your post. 😀

  353. jbroderi says:

    since the islanders are a ways from the minimum payroll, would there be any interest for them in bringing in a guy like Hamrlik for a mid to high round pick?  He is still a good, solid guy and a great team guy who may work well with some of the younger islanders.  More importantly though, it would clear cap sapce for us, even if we don’t use it right away.

    the only issue with that might be markov not being ready for the start of the season.  maybe send ak46 along with him and grab kovalchuk, but i don’t think that’ll happen.

     

     

    any

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  354. jbroderi says:

    since the islanders are a ways from the minimum payroll, would there be any interest for them in bringing in a guy like Hamrlik for a mid to high round pick?  He is still a good, solid guy and a great team guy who may work well with some of the younger islanders.  More importantly though, it would clear cap sapce for us, even if we don’t use it right away.

    the only issue with that might be markov not being ready for the start of the season.  maybe send ak46 along with him and grab kovalchuk, but i don’t think that’ll happen.

     

     

    any thoughts?

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  355. andrewberkshire says:

    I really like the inclusion of Trotter, but I’m confused by Mayer.

  356. likehoy says:

    lol just trying to start another goalie controversy!

    I think Trotter deserves a shot, and we need offensive depth

  357. TripleX says:

    That chick from Team990 just had her report from the development camp.

    She was most impressed with Eller and said he looked ready to make a move up to the big club.  Also that Palushaj was a room mate of Eller at one time and was playing with an edge at camp.

    Alexander Avtsin was not seen and she does not know what is up with that.

    Really pumped about PK says he is so well spoken and humble about his success.  She also said he understands he has a lot to learn and is setting his goals realistically for the coming season.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  358. jbroderi says:

    gionta  gomez  AK46

    Cammy Pleks  Pouly

    lapierre   Ellar   Moen/maxpac

    pyatt   boyd   darche

    markov  obyrne

    subb  spacek

    gill  gorges

     

     

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  359. andrewberkshire says:

    Haha! Don’t start that again!

    I also think Trotter deserves a solid chance. He’s not soft by any means, and he has a nose for the net.

  360. The Cat says:

    Get some Old Milwaukee light: since youll probably be the one buying it at least youll save a few bucks.

  361. smiler2729 says:

    Anybody else have the feeling that the Habs will surprize next season despite what the TSN, RDS, Sportsnet, Hockey News “experts” and all the negative nancies here predict?

    I do.

  362. jbroderi says:

    over.. i think he’ll get 25.  if he keeps to his pattern of playing decent every second year, then this is it!

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  363. likehoy says:

    if trotter makes the team, BG looks like a genius…and that guy who blamed the habs for not signing wheeler and ending up with trotter will look like a chump.

  364. The Cat says:

    Wanna bet? 😉

  365. GrimJim says:
    • Cammy – Pleks – AKost
    • Gio-Gomez – Pouliot
    • Moen – Boyd – Laps
    • Pyatt – Eller – White

    Trotter and Darche alt. I think Avtsin would benefit from a year in the A regardless of how he looks in training camp, just as PK did. If Eller shows promise, I might try him on the wing of one of the top two lines, espcially if Benny or AK underperform and move Trotter to 4th line centre.

    • Markov – O’B
    • PK – spacek/Hammer
    • Gorges – Hammer/Gill/spacek

    I wouldn’t put PK and Markov on the same pair because then the other two pairs don’t have a strong puck-moving d-man. I would also platoon the three older d-men (spacek/Hammer/Gill) to rest them more so they are fresher at the end of the seaon. If Markov can’t go at the start then I would go with PK-Spacek, Hammer-O’B, Gill-Gorges with Weber 7th.

    “Punch Imlach would tell the press he was calling up someone from the minors who was going to take care of me. So I would skate by the Leafs bench and say “Who ya got for me today, Punch? Send him out.” – John Ferguson

  366. mike g says:

    Ok relax there buddy…

    It’s a mistake. What are you, the “internet spelling correction agency” or something?

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  367. The Cat says:

    I think Minnesota will be the team with the biggest progression next year.

  368. namgel says:

    Typical Leafer recommends Buck a Beer.  Domestic means North American numb nutz.  Aim higher even if you team can’t.

  369. SLONCOLD says:

    in regards to bigger and stronger….. a 6’3” in butterfly doesn’t cover that much more room. shoulders are about an inch higher. being square to the shooter in prooper position is more of an concern for a goalie than 3 inches when you’re standing up. stronger, he’s not a d man battling in the corner, i don’t think his bench press is going to help him make saves. further more, an important part of goaltending( i play the position by the way and am 5’11”) is speed/agility/ antisipation.

    my point here is the things you mention don’t make him a better goalie at all. alex auld has all the things u mentioned except his is older.

     

  370. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS:

    1. Is this the most boring hockey day EVER at HIO?  Or at least since the end of June?

    2. Is Eller going to be good enough to make almost everyone agree that the Halak deal was worth it given tough choices?

    3. Does it suck that we have to let go of a guy like Moore for a cheaper replacement in someone like Boyd to save a million or so in cap room (who’s unlikely to give us what Moore did)?  And is that an issue with Moore?  An issue with Gauthier?  With the kind of contracts that Habs have waded into?  Or is it ‘just the way it is’ (even if that’s a COMPLETE cop-out).

    4. Will we regret letting Moore go?  Or will our depth lines be okay this year?

    5. Of the free agents who signed this past week, who would you most like to have picked up?

    6. BONUS QUESTION!  Would you pick up Kovalchuk for 10 million/year if we could?  (And of course lose other assets to keep him.)

    SD

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  371. LA Loyalist says:

    How about the FACT that he’s let in more goals, at bad times, and last year the team had more confidence in and played better in front of, Halak. 

    Not saying he doesn’t have potential. But if you want to talk facts  you should stick to them. And as for cheaper, that remains to be seen. Even if Halak had to go (very arguable) trading him BEFORE signing Price was dumber than dirt and something a first year business student at McGill, hammered on pub night, wouldn’t do. 

    Any thought of giving Gauthier a honeymoon is gone based on that idiot move. Go ahead, argue with me, but use REAL facts.

    P.S. yes he’s younger and bigger.

     

  372. likehoy says:

    TSN/RDS/THN predictions will put habs out of the playoff picture after trading halak. Guaranteed.

  373. Jordio-oh says:

    hahahaha nice.

  374. SLONCOLD says:

    i still think there are too many question marks surrounding the team right now to make a prediction on their placement in the standings(let alone the injury factor).

    i expect carolina and tampabay to be more competetive next year with buffalo falling down in the standings a bit.

  375. SmartDog says:

    nice butt

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  376. andrewberkshire says:

    1) Nah, there have been more boring days.

    2) Yes, and partially because Halak is unlikely to ever play as well as he did this year.

    3) Boyd wasn’t brought in to replace Moore, Eller was. Eller will be better than Moore by a wide margin, possibly as soon as this year. Boyd was brought in to replace Metropolit, and while he likely can’t do what Metro did on the PP he’s a far superior 5-on-5 player, which is something the Canadiens desperately need.

    4) Maybe for awhile, or at least at times through the year, but long term it was the correct decision.

    5) Believe it or not, Chris Higgins.

    6) No. Never.

  377. LA Loyalist says:

    1. you forgot to mention that Gomez is a Smurf boat anchor and we can’t re-balance this team until he is GONE. 

    2. Leafs or Buffalo will sign Moore back and he will score a goal against Cary Price from the red line and knock us out of the playoffs. You read it here first.

    3. I’m happy to give Eller a shot, I’m just sorry we have Halak up for him.

    4. I like the Tinordi move.

    5. No I would not take Kovalchuk for $10m. If you are going to have Russians you need one with an edge like Markov or Ovechkin, or Kovalev when he was in the mood, which while I loved his skill was not often enough. And we don’t want Frolov, even for free. He’s a Samsonov style floater. Don’t get me started.

     

  378. HardHabits says:

    You rock Bugs!!! ROFLMAO

  379. HardHabits says:

    nice comeback Mr. Pwn3d

  380. andrewberkshire says:

    However size will matter more next season as equipment gets tailored to height. Halak’s pads will shrink big time.

  381. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Of course, the “so called experts” are always wrong, it is so difficult to predict anything. Nobody had predicted the habs to make the playoffs in 08-09 and they ended up first in the conference, then the same “experts” picked them to finish top 3 the following year and they end up 8th with a quick exit from the first round!

  382. ed lopaz says:

    Hi – I’m not upset at all – Boone said we should try and stay positive and I always listen to Boone. :-)

    I was trying to point out the inconsistency of the argument.

    It lacks a certain logic.

    But theres no denying Price is bigger and stronger and younger – cheaper? well once he signs, I guess that will be confirmed.

    let me clear, so you guys get my whole picture.

    I was watching Price (as a hab) since his FIRST development camp here in Montreal.

    I pride myself on “scouting” young talent; and Price freakin blew me away!!

    Big, mobile, talented – awesome!!

    That;s the Price that eventually became a huge star.

    I travel for 11 months a year in and out of arenas here in Quebec.

    I told EVERYONE that the Habs had found their Stanley Cup Goalie.

    ……….I will skip the rest because we all know what happened.

    last year, halak came in and the team started to win – NOT WITH PRICE!

    I supported the “winning” like the “good” fan that I am – after close to 40 years.

    I supported keeping BOTH goalies and dumping unwanted salary to pay for it (Like 3 million in AK 46).

    But the Habs didn’t listen to me – what a shock!!

    and here we are.

    As long as Price WINS – all we be fine.

    But if the Habs lose, Price will not last here.

    if I;m his agent, i sign for 1 year – that’s it. – if he wins, he can make a big payday next year.

    Sorry for the long post.

     

  383. andrewberkshire says:

    Wheeler is likely the softest 6’5″ “power forward” I’ve ever seen. I’m glad we didn’t sign him personally.

    Trotter is a lot smaller, but he just has more drive from what I’ve seen.

  384. SlovakHab says:

    1. probably

    2. my guess is as good as yours

    3. yes it does. i think the issue with Moore is salary cap and boyd/eller cost less.

    4. hopefully we won’t miss him, but i expect we will.

    5. couldn’t find anyone specific. perhaps anttero nyyttimaki, who only signed for 2 mil. would have taken him for this much. and definitely moore or metropolit.

    6. no way. if we get someone for our top-6, then get a consistent, tough, 25-30 goal scorer with a good size. if pouliot or kostitsyn develop into one (i doubt kostitsyn will), then we don’t need a free agent like that for a couple of years.

  385. andrewberkshire says:

    I like you’re thinking, especially on D.

  386. likehoy says:

    2. He needs to score 60 points and he justifies sending halak. 

  387. SLONCOLD says:

    no it won’t beacuse he uses a 35 +.5inch thigh rise brians zero pad.

    price uses a 36+2 epic pad.

    the zero g halak stock pad will be legal under the new rules. the rules are to prevent people using 34+4 or 35+3 pads. the other thing that should be mentioned is it’s all dependant on you ankle knee and thigh to hip measuremeants.

    some people may have longer tibias meaning a high knee block ie 34in pad vs a 36pad. however the thigh rise could be larger to protect players a longer femur. so it all depends. but from what i have read and heard from my equipment provider is as long as you knee is in the center of the knee block on the pad you’ll be fine as long as you don’t go past a plus 2 thigh rise

  388. jbroderi says:

    thanks.  I do a lot of lunges!  haha

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  389. jbroderi says:

    spot on, spot on!!

    can’t argue with that logic.  we just need price to move in with gionta or someone and put the bottle and the night club life on hold.  I promise i’ll party it up enough for the both of us if he plays well.

     

    in 2 years, if Ellar get 65 points, or 25 goals, or both, and price has a 2.5 gaa and/or .912 or so, then we got a great deal for Halak!  Simple as that, cause he ain’t winning no cup in St. Louis

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  390. Ian Cobb says:

    We played under water hockey in my pool today. Mask, fins, and snorkel. Sliding the puck along the bottom towards the under water net. Need garden gloves for the slashing under there.

    What a blast!!!  Of coarse we won! our sticks were RED!—-More Fan Summit Information

  391. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    1. It’s up there.

    2. Goalies have very little value these days, so I think it was a great return for Halak.

    3. It sucks, but it’s the same for most teams, top 2 lines are getting the big bucks, and botom 2 lines are replaceble(unless they’re young prospects working their way to the top 2 lines). Bonk, Begin, Lang, Metropolit and now Moore, recent serviceable guys that have moved on.

    4. No, Eller will do fine and if not, other young guys will compete for that spot or they trade for a veteran at the trade deadline.

    5. Tambellini

    6. Never and keep Lecavalier away too!

  392. Mark C says:

    I like Trotter in there as well. I think the odds of Trotter making the team out of camp are better than 50/50. Being sent to the A would expose him to waviers, odds are he’ll stick with the team if he has a good camp.

  393. LA Loyalist says:

    Sorry, no.

  394. TorontoHabsFan says:

    last year the team had more confidence in and played better in front
    of, Halak.

     

    Uh, that’s not a fact – that’s an opinion. Just sayin’.

     

    And I’m sure you don’t need to be reminded that RFAs coming off their worst statistical season without arbitration rights have precious little leverage – all they can realistically do is drag out the process and hope the natives get restless and force management into signing a bad contract. Never mind that if Price’s camp tries to play the hold-out route, there’s still a certain M. Theodore looking for work.

  395. wotever says:

    Good insight but I think you under-represent the value of the size particularly when well positioned.  1 inch higher may mean he’s blocking, say, 3 more inches of net if you consider the “shadow” he’s projecting.  It’s clearly more subtle, but 1 inch of height doesn’t mean simply mean 1 inch of coverage.

    I’d really like to see a graphic wrt the pad changes however.  Does anyone know of one?

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  396. Rugger says:

    6. If the NJ technique is allowed, I’d think about that kind of deal, but in the end no.

  397. Ian Cobb says:

    You can’t replace money players with a ton of play off experience like Gomez. Yes he paces himself some during the long season. When you need a leader that can control the play in the play offs, he is there. Heart & Speed kills! never mind the size.—More Fan Summit Information

  398. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. Even with Tony’s banning it’s pretty dull.

    2. No idea how good Elelr will be, but I know FOR A FACT, that “almost everyone” will never agree.

    3. Moore is old and has reached his ceiling. Go with youth.

    4. No. Come on he’s not that good.

    5. Derek Boogaard.

    6. No. It’s a cap crippler.

  399. andrewberkshire says:

    Thanks for the information. Very enlightening!

  400. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Hoegaarden, my personal fav!

  401. Ian Cobb says:

    Tough being positive living in L.A.? I do understand!———More Fan Summit Information

  402. SmartDog says:

    I think it’s great that you’re such a clear supporter of Gomez Ian.  Whatever you do, do it up bold and direct and stand by your words.  That’s the way to be.

    I couldn’t disagree more about what I think the overall effect of Gomez is on being in Montreal. but I respect the integrity of your standing up for your beliefs in a positive way.  Wish others could learn that more! 

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  403. The Cat says:

    Darn it, stop hurting my feelings like that!

  404. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. No, there will be more boring days to come, this one’s a tease.

    2. Hopefully, but it will likely take a while for him to reach his full potential here.

    3. Just the way it goes sometimes.

    4. I think with guys like White and Palushaj seemingly ready for NHL action and Pacioretty likely building up on the farm this year, our depth for those types of forwards is good.

    5. Can’t think of anyone that we really needed this week that was signed.

    6. No, enough with the FA overpayment. NHL teams need to stop this spiral of madness.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  405. HabFab says:

    Hope you were playing old time hockey with all the clutching and grabbing 😉 😉

  406. kempie says:

    Under I’m afraid.

  407. HabFab says:

    Yes, indeed your my favourite a$$ here! 😉

  408. The Cat says:

    Youve proven yourself to be a worthy member Ed. Maybe I caught him on bad days, but nowhere did I ever see that Price is mobile, in fact I find him kind of slow.

  409. SeriousFan09 says:

    Cammy-Pleks-AK

    Pouliot-Gomez-Gionta

    Moen-Eller-Pyatt

    Boyd-Lapierre-White

    Markov-Spacek

    Hamrlik-Subban

    Gill-Gorges

    Darche is 13th forward, OB is 7th defencemen.

     

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  410. Ian Cobb says:

    Some of these 19 year old children play for keeps. But as a former professional diver, I had a few under water tricks to level the competition some. When they need a little air, just deny it for a moment,

    More Fan Summit Information

  411. Storm Man says:

    Underwater hockey is alot of fun you must have a good size pool. Calgary has a underwater hockey club it is alot of fun to play hope you post some pics of your game.

  412. The Cat says:

    Last year no one saw Buffalo making the playoffs, Lindy Ruff is something else.

  413. The Cat says:

    I agree totally. How can anyone not like him?

  414. notbigbird says:

    1. Boring? I dunno how it ranks, but it’s certainly not been rivetting lately.

    2. Eller? Let’s hope we have a keeper, and I don’t mean a goalie — or maybe I do.

    3. Moore? I wanted to keep this guy, even if just to justify the draft pick, and it could have been done.

    4. Letting
    Moore go?  It’s sort of the same question and answer as #2. It all depends on Eller.

    5. Free agents?Aside from Kovy, I don’t much care.

    6. Kovalchuk for 10
    million/year? Yes, assuming that Gomez and AK are ditchable and it’s not for ten years. Or maybe not for  $10 mil. How about 8.5?

     

  415. Bill J says:

    Sounds like you could get a “game missconduct for drowning”

    lol

  416. mike g says:

    6. Only if he announces the signing during a one hour special on RDS.

    In French….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  417. ed lopaz says:

    a worthy member? do you mean a worthy member of the Price fan club

    I spent the entire year arguing with you guys that halak should be the # 1.

    I favor WINS first, WINS second, and lastly, but most important, WINS!!!

    (and price gained over 20 lbs since he was drafted – which might explain why he’s not as quick as he used to be – believe me as an 18 year old, his lateral movement was excellent)

  418. LA Loyalist says:

    obviously as we saw last year anything can happen, and sometimes wonderful. what I’m not seeing is the plan. We saw total panic from Bob G last year, obvious now in retrospect, and I wish someone would tell me clearly what the plan is. Brian Burke has a plan, it may well be a BAD plan, but it’s a plan.

    Who are we? We are unbalanced. Small and fast and bad 5 on 5 is not enough to go deep in the playoffs when other teams are improving too. I’m 100% for skill, but we need to build a playoff team, not a power play team. That’s why we couldn’t get a whif agaoinst Philly, we were not skilled enough or balanced enough to adjust to a different opponent.

    Montreal’s strength historically has been balance, and depth playing a fast-transition game, but we could adjust. I give Martin credit, and I was no fan of his, but he had the transition game nailed against Caps and Penguins, but we just didn’t have the horses to adjust against Philly. Obviously Markov would have helped a lot, but we’ll never know.

    So who are we this year? Here in LA, we really want to know. thanks!

  419. Garry Bettman says:

    Why not Canada? Because I hate Canada! Hahaha!

     

    (The United States are an unserved market, you know)

  420. Bill J says:

    20 lbs of muscle.

    after his first season, yes he came in out of shape.

    following season came in 20 lbs lighter & in excellent shape (the first half of the centennial season)

    any more weight gain would be muscle, he has been very good in his conditioning since he came in over weight that season.

    And I choose to dissagree with you, I would have prefered having one hard season, get a good HIGH draft pick, and bounce back this season.

    Price would have learned some lessons along the way, but so do ALL goalies.  At least the ones who have had long careers so far anyways.  With the exception perhaps to Dryden, but he was spoiled with who he had playing in front of him after all.

  421. pic1983 says:

    Are you kidding? If im his agent I try to at least get him 6-8 million over 3 years! What if he just plain sucks this year? he will have next to no value, and no leverage in contract negotiations after the season. 

  422. ed lopaz says:

    we were a top 15 pick before we beat Washington and Pittsburgh

  423. Bill J says:

    Price admittedly is not good coming off the bench as a backup, he gets rusty.

    When he was the hottest ? When he was playing a LOT.  Without being pulled every 2-3 games…  This past season was a tough one, but from what many “in the know” are saying.  Price has turned a corner.  And it is my FIRM belief that is exactly what PG & JM saw, and thus the Halak choice was made.

    Jaro was EXTREMELY magnifique indeed this past season, but the team more importantly then the $$ & cents, needed to split them up, if not for the best interest of the players, certainly for the Habs.

    The drama that surrounded these two, was ludicrous.  And to think some will relish in the opportunity to continue it, baffles me frankly.  Jaro is gone, your a Habs fan… Cheer for YOUR team and YOUR goalie.  Seems pretty simple to me.

    just my 2 cents, and a relatively calm counter point on the matter TYVM lol 😉 dig the new avatar btw lol funny stuff.

  424. CaptainGorges says:

    If there was a scale of bad-average-good-very good-excellent, gomez would fall in between good and very good (closer to very good). he’s still a 60 point player (atleast) with a ton of speed and skill. he’s one of, if not the best, players at carrying the puck through the neutral zone into the offensive zone. he just needs to sharpen up his passing, they used to be more crisp when he played in new jersey. he also has a strong wrist shot but for some reason was very unaffective last year. there are a ton of teams that could use a playmaking centre like scotty g (toronto, L.A., phoenix). i’m happy we have him, if only he were 2 million dollars less though.

  425. Bill J says:

    Based on what some people would say here, if Price would have played more…

    We would of been top 5, if not top 10.

    And Price would have gained valuable experience, as M-A Fleury & Ward have…

    I still think the different kind of adversity (being demoted to #2) helped Price grow this past season, and maintain it is my hope that is what PG & JM saw when the decision was made on who to keep.

    We can only judge that decision once all the pieces fall into place Come October… Right ?

  426. ed lopaz says:

    Because if you’re his agent, its probably because you BELIEVE in your client, right?

    Agents need to believe that their clients will have a good year, better than the 1 before.

    You never think – what “if” my client sucks next year.

    And if Price thought that;s the way his agent was thinking, he would find another agent.

    That’s what I meant.

  427. ed lopaz says:

    yes – there is nothing left to argue about;

    the plan is in motion.

    Except – they have not signed Price – which is a bad sign.

    It can be resolved tomorrow by signing, or this can get much, much worse.

  428. Bill J says:

    btw – meant to say, but just noticed I had not mentioned it yet:

    I do agree somewhat with your initial post, and thoughts.  Just a few things I felt like sharing my counter points and some side thoughts.

    Was not trying to imply you where being a Price-trasher.

    Re this post … Agreed, worries me no signing announced yet.

    I agree the Halak signing may very well have changed the value a bit… 

  429. pic1983 says:

    3 inches of height translates roughly into another 1.5 inch of reach per arm, which is quite the difference.  Also, Price is taller and broader, he has another 40 lbs of bulk on him vs halak.  When the equipment becomes more fitted, bigger goalies will be at a huge advantage.

    But you’re right, you need skill to go with size.  Last time i checked, price isnt lacking in skill.  His WJHC gold medal and MVP, and Calder Championship and MVP can attest to that.  Careys problem is between the ears.

     

  430. SlovakHab says:

    I agree 100% with you and the posts below you, Ian.

    I would add my prediction: With the team chemistry already built, his shooting percentage too low last season and hopefully less injury time for Gionta and Cammalleri, Gomez will be a 20-goal, point-per-game player next season, providing both he and Gionta will play 75+ games.

  431. ed lopaz says:

    sure it has changed Price’s value – Halak is worth 15 million, and the habs have chosen Price OVER Halak.

    How much does that make Price worth, right?

    How can Gautier go to Price and say;

    “hey, we want you to be our # 1, and we kept you OVER Halak, but you’re worth MUCH LESS THAN HALAK.”

    well, gauthier can do it, because Price MUST ACCEPT his current salary 850 + 10 per cent, IF THERE IS NO

    AGREEMENT.

    But in the real world, can Gauthier treat his # 1 goalie like this?

    That would be very bad business.

    So they are trying to find a middle ground.

    Could be 1 year 2 million, for example??

    But if Gauthier wants to go to 3 years, he’s actually going to have to offer around 3 million, otherwise,

    why should Price take it??

     

  432. TripleX says:

    Hockey Guru and former Navy Seal Ian?  Wow dude you is da man!

    xD

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  433. Bill J says:

    Like I said, let’s see where the pieces fall.  Who knows, maybe Price wants to sign 10 years at avg cap hit of 4 Mill…

    Do you do it ? lol

  434. Bugs says:

    Except for you of course, TX.

    Apologies.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  435. ed lopaz says:

    wow! I don’t know!!

  436. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Sorry Andrew, but seriously your #2 answer irked me. What gives you the idea he could not? He dealt with being the “backup”, win the Molson Cup and then benched (twice?), sent down in favor of Price and still came out to give it all every game? Good team mate…Mature and skilled. Hmmm I think that is a valuable asset don’t you?

    Obviously his play WILL be different as it is with another team (new D, etc), but that is besides the point. I think he is a solid goalie who post similar numbers for a long time…and that will probably suck for Habs fans in the future knowing we might have thrown away Halak (ok premature to say thrown away as we have no idea what Eller/Schultz will be like).

    But you know what you got with Halak, and he proved it year after year.

    So I guess the same can be said of Price, it is unlikely he will ever have numbers like he did in 07-08…he certainly did not last year, so maybe we ended up with a very inconsistent goalie, who has flashes of brilliance, who yet crumbles under pressure… scary thought and I hope I am wrong

  437. The Cat says:

    I meant a worthy member of the forum, you have good posts Ed.

  438. punkster says:

    1. Yes, definitely the most BORRRRRRRRRRING day  E V E R !!!!!

    2. Not in a zillion years. The Halak camp will make sure of that.

    3. I love cop-outs. Worked in the corporate world for years. Cop-outs are de rigueur in the office. (Fact is SD this is a multiple question requiring thought and IT’S TOO FREAKIN HOT FOR THOUGHT….SOMEONE TURN ON THE HOSE FFS!!!!)

    4. Personally I will likely regret the egg salad sandwichs I made for dinner tonight. Egg salad. On a 34C day. What was I thinking?

    5. Bar Rafaeli

    6. Over Bar Rafaeli? What, you joshin’ me here man?

    FREE TIMO!

  439. punkster says:

    Hilarious Rob!

    FREE TIMO!

  440. likehoy says:

    to be honest…these were drills that did not require a lot of hustle…but palushaj definitely stood out cause he wanted to be doing stuff all the time…and he stayed the longest afterwards.

    actually ryan white too was working hard…he was working on a quick release one-timer and shooting top shelf from just outside the blue paint during the free skate (5-6feet out?)…he’s working on becoming a good grinder and in front of the net player.

  441. ed lopaz says:

    thanks for the update. much appreciated!!

    I should have gone down there but I hate crossing the Champlain Bridge.

     

  442. SeriousFan09 says:

    White picked up the Workhorse of the Game (to go along with 3 Stars selection) at a few Hamilton Bulldogs games this year. I remember watching him and Subban drill together in pre-game warmup, Subban would feed him one-timers while he would stand around the net and knock them in. I always found him a relentless player on the ice, a line I really liked watching was Pacioretty, Palushaj and White, very aggressive, very punishing, a very solid checking line if I ever saw on.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  443. likehoy says:

    gallagher’s tiny…sort of the same build as cammalleri but i didn’t pay too much attention to him…saw him shoot though and his shot is wildly inconsistent…sometimes he’d snipe one off the post and in…and sometimes he’d a weak one along the ice, he’s far from being NHL ready.

  444. ed lopaz says:

    not sure you can actually “see” Gallagher from the stands without binoculars.

     

  445. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wasn’t exactly expecting our 5th-rounder to be NHL-ready, anyone taken after round 1 is almost a guaranteed 3-4 year project, I was interested in his skating and shot, I like the idea of a new Cammy or Gionta in the system in a few years. Gallagher’s got at least a couple more junior seasons ahead of him I imagine, plus AHL time.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  446. crabvader says:

    I know!

    Why would Lombardi be willing to give up a first and one of his best physical prospects who can also score for Kaberle?!

    He has Doughty who can easily run his offense and Doughty is also more physical.

    It makes no sense to trade away your future for insurance on the blue line.

  447. andrewberkshire says:

    Especially when LA has Teubert and Hickey who are nearly NHL ready.

  448. Malreg says:

    Unfortunately it is technically not against the CBA, so any change he would like to make would have to go through the NHLPA. You think they’re going to cooperate?

    Apparently he tried everything he could to try and not let the Dipietro contact go through a couple years ago, which started all of this.

  449. darcy1 says:

    Hey all — I’m looking at buying a Habs jersey with an old player’s name on it & want to put my own name over top of it.. Is there any place that I can get an authentic name plate made up?

    Cheers!

  450. Ian Cobb says:

    Buy a plain without a name already on it. There is a ton of places that can put your name on it. I had one given to me with my name on it. Any quality sports store should be able to put your name on it.

  451. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Why would you want to do that?

  452. mike g says:

    If you go to any jersey retailer that sells authentic Reebok jerseys, they’ll have it sent out.

    I used to work at Play It Again sports, and we did it. They’ll send it to the company assigned by Reebok here in MTL. They take care of all the authentic stitching for NHL jerseys, and will cost you about 30-40$.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  453. darcy1 says:

    because my buddy is giving me a good deal on a jersey he doesn’t want anymore.. he’s replaced it with a newer one

  454. HabsFanInTampa says:

    What player’s number and name is on the Jersey now? Or is it blank?

  455. darcy1 says:

    It’s a Halak jersey.. he’s willing to give it to me for a 24 of beer

  456. HabsFanInTampa says:

    oh, ok. Now I understand your situation. I, personally would keep it the way it is.

  457. petrov14 says:

    I’d rock a MTL Halak Jersey!

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  458. GuyDoon says:

    I’ve read several posters talking that Halak’s equipment will be smaller than Price’s next year. I found this to be helpful to understand what the league is doing with form-fitting goalie equipment: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=26138

     

    There’s a written version of the video here:

    http://www.goaliecrease.net/equipment-chat/943-nhl-2010-2011-goalie-equipment-sizing.html

     

     

    This article was also interesting.

    http://ingoalmag.com/gear/new-goal-pad-regulations-for-2010-2011-complex-and-may-make-little-difference/

    Here’s a quote:

    “It will have a minimal effect on a few individuals. Whether you like it or not, it should serve to reinforce the advantage that tall goalies already have in today’s game.”

     

  459. Nina76 says:

    I say GOOD LUCK to Price.Give him a chance the only thing that worries me is that the other teams know where to score on Price that is over the right shoulder plus to many rebounds which he has to stop………. this results in putting the puck on the other teams stick………. & stay in your net don’t wander so much…………………………………Go Habs Go!!!!!!!!!

  460. darcy1 says:

    that’s awesome.. thanks for the info!

  461. Garry Bettman says:

    My wig and I are curious. Does the aforementioned price include the removal of the old nameplate as well? And does it leave marks?

  462. Bill J says:

    careful with your answer mike, Mr. Commish may get Campbell involves if the NHL is losing jersey sale revenue here lol

  463. Garry Bettman says:

    “Mr. Campbell” is actually a sock puppet of mine (I’m serious here) made by a professional in the USA.

     

  464. Storm Man says:

    Paul Goydos cards a 59 today……. WOW :)

  465. StevieRay says:

    Good for him .. he’s had his share of bad luck over the years..  He has a wicked lookin putter !

  466. Ed says:

    Subban wins AHL’s President’s Award.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=326991

     

  467. camel_larry says:

    I wonder what the holdup with Price is?

    I mean, obviously it’s not a money issue, he didn’t file for arbitration.

    Some people can negotiate a contract within an hour or 2, on free agency…

    Maybe he doesn’t want to sign here? What if he’s waiting for an offer sheet?

     

    Go Habs Go!

  468. Danno says:

    He’s demanding a solid gold hat and a lifetime supply of apricot nectar.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  469. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m guessing term is what’s going back and forth between the camps, Price and his agent can’t be expecting a big payday but they might be shooting to ensure he’s an arbitration-eligible RFA or a UFA when the next contract ends for a bigger payday.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  470. Bill J says:

    He does not have arbitration rights, Halak did.

     

  471. ed lopaz says:

    i think they will eventually agree to 1 year and about 2 million.

    Re-assess after 1 year.

    It would decrease the risk for both sides.

    If the Habs win hockey games, Price will get the credit, and he will be able to demand a better salary next summer.

    If the Habs lose more than they win, Price will be blamed, and it could possibly mean the end of Price in this town.

    The risks are very high.

    The contract should have been signed BEFORE the Halak trade – no question.

    This has hurt the Habs negotiating significantly.

    WHo here doesn’t think that Price believes he is a better goalie than Halak?

    Price has been told all of his young adult life – WJC, AHL, NHL, that he was a star.

    Think he doesn’t feel that he should get AT LEAST AS MUCH as Halak?

    That’s part of the problem.

    Especially since the habs traded halak so that they could GIVE Price the # 1 spot.

    it is therefore logical to conclude that the habs believe that Price is at least as good or better than Halak.

     

  472. Bugs says:

    Offer sheet?

    From who? Woulda been done already, no?

    What team wants to pay enough that we don’t match AND give us 1st round picks to boot?

    For a goalie who hasn’t won the number of playoff series in two years that Halak has in one?

    No need to fear the offer sheet, imo.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  473. camel_larry says:

    Fine. Let PG say “make it a gold plated hat and plum nectar and it’s a deal”.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  474. TripleX says:

    He is demanding a new iPad and iPhone with unlimited data plan.  PG looked at what Rogers wants for such a plan and fainted.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  475. fbkj says:

    rogers doesnt offer unlimited :(

  476. SeriousFan09 says:

    If Rogers ran the NHL, it would cost 300$ a seat to watch the Panthers.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  477. TripleX says:

    Exactly right.  It is all about the term with Price going short and PG wanting to take him past UFA status.

    Price and his agent realize if he puts up good numbers going into UFA status he is setup to hit it big.  I can’t believe how badly PG screwed up this whole negotiations.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  478. ed lopaz says:

    “I can’t believe how badly PG screwed up this whole negotiations.”

    We don’t have enough information;

    What if Price REFUSED to sign before the Halak trade, and Gauthier felt like he could not wait any longer?

     What if St Louis called Gauthier and told him that they were going to sign an offer sheet for Halak, unless a trade could be worked out quickly?

    Notice how the Habs got a former 1st round and a former 3rd rounder?

    THAT’s EXACTLY THE COMPENSATION FOR SIGNING AN OFFER SHEET FOR A PLYER SIGNED JUST LESS THAN 4 MILLION, IS IT NOT?

    Maybe Gauthier had to make the Halak trade, and he had not time to deal with Price who is obviously not signing so quickly?

  479. Bill J says:

    Interesting & quite valid reasoning….

    Let’s not fool ourselves, we do not have blow-hard Burke as the GM, so we do not know “what happened”

    As it should be despite my curiosity.

  480. likehoy says:

    do your research before you panic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet 2010

    $3,091,963 to $4,637,944 First- and third-round pick
  481. ed lopaz says:

    that’s exactly what I said – halak signed for just under 4 million, and we received a 1st and a 3rd.

  482. TripleX says:

    Of course anything is possible.  But a general truism is that the simplest explanations are more often than not closest to the truth.

    I think PG simply botched the whole thing up.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  483. likehoy says:

    oh sorry summer heat + capitalized letters played tricks on me! i apologize!

  484. ed lopaz says:

    wouldn’t be the first time, and it won’t be the last – I’m not a fan of PG.

     

  485. ed lopaz says:

    no need to apologize.

  486. HardHabits says:

    The difference is the 1st and 3rd the Habs got are closer to the NHL than the 1st and the 3rd they would’ve picked next draft.

    Look at it this way. The draft is an inexact science. Ellar and Schultz are worth more today than in the year they were drafted because back then they were unknowns as far as their NHL value. Now given a few years more development they can be assessed as being closer to the real thing (hopefully).

  487. ed lopaz says:

    absolutely correct. and presumably, Gauthier’s thinking exactly;

    that’s what motivated Gautheir to pull the trigger.

    otherwise,  if he accepts an offer sheet and refuses to match, he gets a first and a third, and we wait at least

    2, 3 years to get back to this point.

     

  488. camel_larry says:

    Ohh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  489. Bill J says:

    Sorry SF09 below summed it up well below me, so mine was more of a lame double post admittedly lol

  490. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    I was reading further down when the Halak/Price debate erupted again. It’s so easy to take sides and name names, but the real debate is just goaltending. You could have traded both Price and Halak and I would not have been upset, if the return left us solid in goal. The Halak trade left the team with a very unpredictable goaltending situation. The Auld signing left us with no apparent Plan B to look forward to.

    Trading a solid young number one and going with a kid who has stumbled a lot is a risk – I don’t mind it in any position other than in nets. That was the debate, and the debate’s over. If there was a mistake, it’s made.

    Price is the Habs goalie. I think it’ll be interesting to see Sanford get another chance, and to see Desjardins get NHL experience. It could be the most interesting carousel since Michel Plasse, Bunny Laroque and Andre Racicot thrilled your grandfathers.

    Me, I`m optimistic about the young forwards. I`m not optimistic about the Halak versus price debate ending, and in that, I`m speaking as a goaltending fan. I don`t care if Lindsay Lohan is in net, as long as she stops the puck.

  491. habs4last says:

    if you’re talking about a team finishing in last place- habs are it.

  492. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I might actually have to go see a Heat game this year.  They are putting together quite the squad.

  493. Bugs says:

    If Florida had another team called the Humidity, maybe THEY woulda gotten’m.

    (chuckle)

    Gosh, that was lame. Apologies.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  494. Exit716 says:

    I wish Jim Gray would have asked LeBron if he ever bet on baseball…

  495. The Cat says:

    So other than Montreal for an answer, who do you guys think will be one of the surprise teams next year?

  496. crabvader says:

    Ask again October 1st.

  497. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Dont you dare talk about humidity while I’m suffering thru it.  lol

    (summers in south florida are brutal!)

  498. ed lopaz says:

    I really think Tampa is going to do well.

    I think Boucher has a chance to make a great statement there, and I have alot of respect for Stevie Y.

    I have followed Boucher since he was in the Q – the man is a winner, and a great communicator.

    Stamkos is a freakin phenom – he is lights out!!

    I think Tampa is back in the playoffs and around 90 points.

  499. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m rather hoping the East is strong enough that 90 points doesn’t put you in the postseason this year. Tired of being the weaker Conf despite having so many star players here.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  500. ed lopaz says:

    habs will benefit with a “weaker conference” – be careful what you hope for!!

  501. The Cat says:

    Definitely. Tampa should have been in the playoffs last year, well I thought, but they lacked structure and leadership behind the bench. Boucher can fix all that.

  502. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well i was kind of expecting the Habs to be competitive in the top half this year. Like I’ve said before, fewer injuries, better team cohesion and the new kids should raise the team at least 12 points this year for a 100-point season. We can’t expect to keep knocking around a weak conference, even if we are the side that has the priviledge of knocking around the SE division.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  503. The Cat says:

    The problem is the east’s stars are pansies compared to the west’s stars. The east just doesnt have that tough team yet.

  504. The Cat says:

    Yeah it is early, no doubt we’ll talk about it again.

  505. ed lopaz says:

    your looking at 40 + wins for Price in that scenario, maybe even 45.

    On July 8th, I can not say that I see that happening.

     

    5 goalies had 40+ wins this year and only Brodeur had 45.

  506. SeriousFan09 says:

    Depends on how many games the team throws a win together, and how many times it ends up falling to Price to make it happen I would say. Their wins will depend upon how they do as a team, which seems to be the intent behind the new roster.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  507. Rugger says:

    Positive surpises: Tampa, Edmonton

    Negative surpises: Flyers, Sabres, Bruins

  508. petrov14 says:

    I can see Colorado taking a step back as well.

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  509. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Good post.  Truth is it will take at least a few years to see where these two young netminders will go.  Commenting on it now is useless,  none of us has a crystal ball.

  510. Bugs says:

    Montreal.

    I think we will MORE than surprise by how drastically we fall without a num1 goalie.

    Oh!

    Oh no, I di’in’t!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  511. ZepFan2 says:

    OMG, I never seen it coming. Miami, really!

    lol

    Everybody and their Grandmother knew he was picking Miami.

    And now the World implodes…

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  512. ed lopaz says:

    true. but to get to the 100 points, someone needs to “carry the load”, and clearly it will be Price and not Auld

    and clearly Price will have to play something like 60 games, and win about 40-45, for us to reach 100 points.

    Auld has won more than 10 games only ONCE since the 2005 season – the most he’s good for is 20 points.

    That leaves 80+ for Price.

  513. TripleX says:

    This dude is just embarrassing.  Incapable of using proper English or putting together a coherent thought process into words.

    LeBron chooses Miami.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  514. petrov14 says:

    I agree. No joke and I would have said that BEFORE Halak. Tampa will be better too, much better.

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  515. SPATS says:

    If we can pop 2 more goals every 3 games… Price will be fine.

  516. petrov14 says:

    LeBron picks the Heat. Should we even care? Why am I watching it? Crap its hot  😛

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  517. SeriousFan09 says:

    See what we get I suppose. Price will have to rise to the level he had been performing at before January of 2009, no easy way to predict 10-11, but I’m feeling good about the fact that the team’s forward depth is improved and our puck mobility from the back end is getting a big boost with Subban.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  518. fbkj says:

    I flew down to watch the habs play at MSG a few years back, we got shut out 4-0

    halak was in nets

    ill still never get that out of my head

    dont get me wrong i like halak a lot, but people need to wake up and realize hes a good goalie that can shit the bed

     

    just like price

  519. The Cat says:

    I like the way you put it…

    Positive surprises: Minnesota, Colorado, Toronto, TB

    Negative surprises: Flyers, Ottawa, Canucks, Chicago,

  520. Muckbringer says:

    someone saying it wouldnt be the third best moment in their life?

     

     

  521. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Vancouver now has one awsome team!

  522. Storm Man says:

    I see a handfull of people on here suffer from pneumocephlytic can someone call Dr Mulder and get him in here STAT……..

  523. joeybarrie says:

    Price let in on average a TOTAL 12 more goals than Halak last season. Yet we still think Halak would be the saviour of next year. OH MY HOW INSANELY CRAZY WE ARE IN HERE IN FANTASY LAND… One post I saw managed to bash the management for having the lowest scoring 5 on 5 and somehow said the fault was on the HALAK trade?????????? I mean what the hell are you saying????

    We had to get rid of Halak cause we couldn’t afford to have him and Pleks too… Price is as good a goalie, except he falls a bit cause he is young. Halak can have the same thing happen. As much I as I love what Halak did for us I know he only did it this last season, and I am glad PG was smart enough not to give him a Tim Thomas, and find out he was HOT and just a decent goalie.

    I am sorry to say it this way, but if you can’t see the benefit of what PG did, you are pretty naive. Same kind of thing when you look at Gionta and Cammalleri and you don’t think bringing in Gomez had a big influence of the decisions then you are simply being naive…

    So enough is enough. GET OVER IT. Price will be a superstar, and even not our big problems last season had to do with not scoring enough and injuries. NOT with goalies… let’s wake up to reality….

     

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  524. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    St.Louis?   ( ducks for cover )  lol

  525. jimmy shaker says:

    Just to let everyone know if they see any footage of the Bob Probert funeral tomorrow and hear a lady singing…..That’s my amazing wife.  She was asked to sing by Bob’s wife’s family.  My wife’s parents married the Proberts here in Windsor years ago.  I know I shouldn’t be shouting out my wife at a very sad time/occasion, but I just wanted to let you guys know.

    Prayers go out to Bob’s wife Dani and their four children, as tomorrow will be a very sad day!

    Shaker

  526. TripleX says:

    You must be very proud of your wife as that is quite the honor for her.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  527. D Alcorn says:

    Yup, that’s a tough one to comprehend, I mean, with him having ‘ attended ‘ a US University and all …

    😉

    ALWAYS Habs –
    Dave Mex

  528. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you, that was hilarious.

     

    to failing hands we pass the torch….

  529. Muckbringer says:

    please comment on my latest in depth analysis….sorry did i spell that wrong?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AunASIMl3Lg

  530. Storm Man says:

    Amen Bud.

  531. Muckbringer says:

    were getting pretty deep

     

  532. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    By himself?  Let’s see how he does without Hall Gill (AKA the Redwood on skates)  and Josh Gorges ( Aka Heart and soul) blocking insane amounts of shots.  And let’s not forget Mr. Clutch,  Michael Cammalleri (AKA I score goals in the playoffs!)

  533. Bugs says:

    It’s gonna take at least a few years to see if Halak can get to the third round by himself?

    I dunno about that…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  534. punkster says:

    You are on a woll today Wabbit.

    FREE TIMO!

  535. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Yup.  People can call Stevie Y a noob all they want,  the guy knows hockey and has studied under some of the best.  He will turn that franchise around.

  536. punkster says:

    What, you didn’t get yours in the mail when you registered here?

    Mr. Boone! Send this man his crystal ball immediately. He’s working at great disadvantage to the rest of us.

    FREE TIMO!

  537. Danno says:

    LeBron doesn’t know anything about humility

     

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  538. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Thats cool man.  Good for her.  she must have a great voice.

  539. TripleX says:

    From Twitter:

    I’m keeping my 2yr old up to watch LeBron James Special.  I want her to see the exact moment our society hit rock bottom.

     

    LOL so true so true.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  540. petrov14 says:

    Subban wins AHL’s President’s Award

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  541. ZepFan2 says:

    Hit rock bottom?

    This person does know there are multiple reality shows on almost every night, right?

    I think we’ve gone past the bottom.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  542. fbkj says:

    bugs is selective when it comes to who does what

     

  543. ZepFan2 says:

    Pugilistic.

    ————————————————————————

    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  544. fbkj says:

    normally id agree with you but apparantly montreal has been the hardest hit in the northeast in this wave

    whatevs i gots some baddass ac

  545. Muckbringer says:

    i was at habs @ leafs last boxing day with my dad, was yelling halakleuhja, and ak after we won in overtime after blowing 2-0 lead

     

     

  546. Propwash says:

    To me, Price was annointed the saviour of the team, it didnt pan out yet, but when people want to see him fail to prove a point, proves to me how much of a fan of the team they really are.

     

    The kid has the pedigree, you’re telling a kid to be the next Roy when he’s barely been in the league 3 years. It takes more than a goalie to make a team.

    My sig makes total sense for the situation.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  547. Muckbringer says:

    the newspaper clipping from the sun will forever hold honor on the fridge

     

  548. Muckbringer says:

    he is doomed, here anyway too bad

  549. halakitlikethat says:

    How can anyone seriously be happy about having Carey Price start in goal?

    I’m still in shock that they would trade Halak. For nothing.

    I
    don’t understand it! Someone please explain this to me. And please
    don’t give me the classic “Price just has more upside and he’s going to
    be better someday”

    What is his upside? That he takes 10 seconds
    to go cross-crease? That Patrick Traverse could beat him glove side
    from the red line? He handles pressure by looking like he doesn’t give
    a spit?

    HALAK IS a better goal, and HAS BEEN a better goalie all season
    long! And last season? And he’s like a year and a half older! What the
    heck?

    I’ve been a hardcore fan all my life, but I’m having a lot of trouble dealing with this folks!

    Does anyone ever think for a moment that Price has been on good teams, and good times?

    Junior – he wasn’t even that impressive if you look at his stats.

    AHL – Alex Auld could have one the cup with that team in Hamilton, they were amazing.

    World Juniors – he was mediocre all tournament long and couldn’t stop a beach ball in the shoot out (luckily he had Toews to bail him out)

    NHL
    – Halak has outplayed him for the last 3 years… What happened every
    time we lost 3 or 4 with Price? Halak came in a got us wins, night in,
    night out.

    Why?

    (Thank you for letting me rant, but seriously, could someone provide justification?)

  550. fbkj says:

    i was at the game where obyrne scored on his own nets in my buddies seats that are so upclose we didnt see what happened at the other end of the ice cuz of glass refraction

    that sucked

  551. Bugs says:

    They did it to hear you rant.

    And by golly, it’s worked.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  552. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Shea Weber named Nashville Predators’ new captain. Sur-prise!

  553. Muckbringer says:

    we got pushed around in net last year. only a fool would think we didnt improve

  554. fbkj says:

    in other drafts price would have gone first overall, the fact he was ranked fifth and chosen fifth says something about the depth of that draft and the skill this kid has

    when i was 22 i didnt have a mcdonalds toy made of my likeness

    and im pretty sure neither did you

    and if you did im sure you would have let it get to your head

     

    lord knows i would have

  555. Muckbringer says:

    next 100 years we have no scapegoat

     

  556. RGM says:

    Awesome. Nice to see him get that spot. Next up? Josh Gorges for Habs captain. Kelowna Rockets taking over the hockey world!

    Scotty Bowman said it best: “Don’t trade Carey Price.”

  557. TripleX says:

    Kovalchuk signs 10 year 120 million dollar deal with Miami Heat.  He will be butler to King LeBron James.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  558. Muckbringer says:

    too good times!

  559. Bugs says:

    Ain’t sayin Cammy, Gill or Josh played like sh*te by any means.

    But let’s hear you say it, Lootie: did we get to 3rd round more cuz of the players relying on Halak or more cuz Halak relyin on his players?

    C’mon.

    Nevermind mind the FACT that Halak was the RUNAWAY leader for the hart Trophy afore losin to Philly, of course…

    Or was it Gorges?

    C’mon, mate. We’ve seen more from Halak than we’ve ever seen from the Priceberg.

    For the last 4 years too. And I don’t remember Gill or Cammy bein around when he got us to the playoffs LAST year, nor almost the year they gave the last game against the leafs to Huey.

    C’mon.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  560. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    You’re missing the bigger picture,  young goalies are hard to judge, judging them on a couple season’s play, (or a good playoff run) is not wise.  Twenty year old kids take time to develop,  sometimes they don’t develop till they’re almost thirty.  It’s hard as fans to sit back and wait,  but thats what we must do.  Try to enjoy the experience.

  561. Caper says:

    I’m happy that Carey Price is starting in goal. Hope that helps.

  562. Muckbringer says:

    yeah, next up ” leafs make the playoffs!!!

     

  563. Propwash says:

    It takes one “oh s**t” to erase a hundred “attaboys” when it comes to Price, the guy has made saves that has blown minds throughout the NHL

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  564. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    lol

  565. halakitlikethat says:

    yeah well hopefully he comes around!

    I just don’t understand why they never “really” gave Halak number 1 status, or a chance at being number one. It was always Carey Price, all the time. Just because Halak was drafted (much) later doesn’t take away from the fact that he has time after time produced wins for a sub-par hockey club.

    Given the Canadians draft history, I wouldn’t place too much stock in Price’s future anyway. Fans have just been super excited about Price because he’s been our highest pick in ages. Mistakes have been made.

    Who waits 6 rounds to draft Pavel Datsyuk anyways?

    Ooops.

  566. fbkj says:

    we wont have a captain till we get a francophone player that fits the bill

    sucks but hey we have to be politically correct and put language before reality

  567. Muckbringer says:

    whatta joke

  568. kool-aid says:

    Habs fans are never satisified. Stay thirsty my friends.

  569. Mad Habber says:

    Yes Toronto, certianly it will surprise many of us to see them climb from 29th all the way up to 25th….

  570. fbkj says:

    I agree it sucks that they had so little faith in halak that they rode price in the playoffs and replaced him with halak 3 times

  571. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yeah, that’s a rant, without actual backing to it no less. Playoff MVP titles and WJC honours don’t just fall out of the sky, and being the best goaltender among the entire CHL is not the easiest thing to accomplish either. Either the AHL Press, CHL Press and the WJC Press were all drunk or paid off with large amounts of money, or they know more than you do.

    The NHL, Price had a strong 07-08 campaign as a 20-year old, than was on a great campaign for the first half of the season, until he badly regressed starting in January of 2009 and has had only flashes of brilliance since. Halak has not outplayed him for 3 years, that’s nonsense brought out by the Halakites that can’t be backed with any real evidence. Halak was not as good then as he is now and it’s a laugher to say he was.

     

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  572. Propwash says:

    Ohhhyeeeeaaaaahhhhhh

     

    wait a sec, stay thirsty my friends is a dos equis commercial…

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  573. fbkj says:

    ps: dude you have to stop saying mate

    pps: and find a profile pic that doesnt enduce such douchechills

  574. halakitlikethat says:

    I’ll agree with that, but here’s what I don’t understand.

    Carey Price – drafted high, labelled as our saviour, the next Roy, the chosen one. Doesn’t quite live up to expectation but is constantly given chances to prove himself.

    Jaroslav Halak – drafted (very) late, has performed well and exceeded expectation during regular season and playoffs. Has made saves and stolen wins where hockey experts thought was impossible. Gerenal consesus? It’s a fluke, let’s go with Price.

  575. halakitlikethat says:

    sarcasm appreciated.

    so, why get rid of halak if when they “needed” a win they chose him?

  576. joeybarrie says:

    WAKE UP MAN… Halak has let in more goals glove side than Price. The problem here is SOME IDIOT say something and all of a sudden three othe idiots repeat it and it become fact………

    Price’s numbers in 2007-08 are the same as Halaks last season… So he OBVIOUSLY HE DIDNT OUT PLAY HIM THE LAST 3 YEARS….

    How is it that the goalie plays excellent in the run to the Cup, and you say it was the TEAM… Yet Halak plays well in the Playoffs and NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAM… It just sounds stupid….

    If he was such a mediocre goalie in all these league you say, how is it he won the WHL top goaltender, CHL goaltender, Calder Cup MVP, and mad e the WHL all star team????????  How is it your genius opinion should be worth more than the ones running the league????

    And my FAVORITE… You said Price couldnt stop a beach ball, and was lucky Toews was on the team to bail him out… WHY oh WHY did they name PRICE the tounrnament MVP and not TOEWS??????????????

    Honestly, how wrong can you possibly be????

    EVERYWHERE he has gone he has excelled…. Why is there so much hate for a young goalie????

    So here is my reply to your rant. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY NOW???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  577. halakitlikethat says:

    Obviously Halak wasn’t as good then as he is now. That doesn’t even make sense. What kind of goalie prospects gets worse with time?

    Oh wait.

  578. RJB says:

    After watching “The Lebrachelor” tonight, and seeing the last bit of respect I had for Lebron James go out the window. I am being honest when I say I am glad a franchise like the Montreal Canadiens exists. They may not do everything perfectly, and they may come off as idiots sometimes. But one thing about our Habs, they are a class orginization, which is a dying breed in sports today. So we can watch talented athletes move to south beach to “win championships” and see top players in the world revealed to have more mistresses than major wins. But our Habs will always be classy!

    Cheers! I figured that someone needed to praise this team…for some reason they’ve been taking a lot of “heat” lately! (No idea why!)

  579. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Stay thirsty?  I’ve drank enough Vodka tonight to kill a small country,  but i digress.  thirsty does not apply to my current state of being,   lol

  580. Caper says:

    You’re a Texas boy so I’ll assume you know your college football. Vince Young of the Texas Longhorns . 3rd overall in 2006. If he can stay out of trouble it looks like he is coming around. Halak is not a fluke. He works hard. Price has more talent however he does not have jaro’s work habits. If he adopts Jaro’s work ethic he is kicks Jaro’s a– to the moon. No question.

  581. Mad Habber says:

    Hehe hockey experts….hope your talking about someone other than scribes and talking heads on t.v.

     

  582. fbkj says:

    money

     

    and other needs

     

    we were the envy of the league last year in nets

     

    will it pay off? who knows? am i thrilled about not having halak? no i fucking think hes king shit, however, our problems last season werent in nets and the shortest straw got pulled

  583. SeriousFan09 says:

    That’s incredibly pessimistic, Gainey in the 80s, Koivu’s tenure? Our only French Canadian prospect who might be up for it is Leblanc and he’s at least two years away from NHL action.

    Gionta will likely have the C on his jersey out of camp.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  584. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Is that Eric Clapton in your avatar??

  585. RJB says:

    Yes indeed! God of rock

  586. Caper says:

    Can’t see Ovey, Crosby and Halak working together to get on the same team. 

  587. halakitlikethat says:

    Wow.

    “How is it that the goalie plays excellent in the run to the Cup, and you say it was the TEAM… Yet Halak plays well in the Playoffs and NO ONE SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAM… It just sounds stupid….”

    Well, it’s clear that you didn’t watch any of the Habs postseason run. I wouldn’t call 50-save bailout performances by Halak a TEAM effort, haha.

    “And my FAVORITE… You said Price couldnt stop a beach ball, and was
    lucky Toews was on the team to bail him out… WHY oh WHY did they name
    PRICE the tounrnament MVP and not TOEWS??????????????”

    Who was more valuable in that game? The goalie who let all the goals in, or the player who scored them all to bail him out?

  588. joeybarrie says:

    Try looking at it this way.

    Halak did just as well as Price did in 2007-08.

    Price was taken 5th overall, and would be cheaper to sign.

    Halak was tken in the 9th round and would be twice as expensive to sign.

    Both are young and have really only had 1 season of success.

    Who do you go with??????  If you pick the overpriced 9th rounder, trade your highest pick in 10+ years….and Price ends up playing great and Halak plays OK… You will NEVER EVER get another GM position in the NHL.

    What you have to realize is that you go with a GOOD goalie, and fix the parts that werent working… Like our scoring.. So lets sign Halak and let Pleks walk and lose our number 1 scorer…. AGAIN, even in Prices CRAPPY season he let in only 12 more goals than Halak did on average all season long. Mostly in games without our number 1 defense… dont forget that….  But its so easy to ignore reality here… We ONLY remember the last 10 games…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  589. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Whoa!!!  You’re from Beaumont Texas???  The home of Johnny and Edgar (two of my musical heroes),  respect dude.

  590. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well it’s been suggested that he’s always been better with no proof, when Price was clearly his superior in 07-08 and the first half of 08-09 when he led in all relevant categories. He had has injury, regressed and Halak took over but he has not been better than Price all this time. You want to match rise in goalie prospect status? Halak was playing in the QMJHL at the same age Price was winning a Playoff MVP title in the AHL. Halak’s battled a long way, but Price has a very high talent ceiling and accomplished a great deal at a younger age.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  591. ed lopaz says:

    Dude – its no use – there is no justification for making the trade.

    all that’s left is “hope” that somehow a 23 year old will survive the impossible situation his

    GM has left for him.

    If the Habs win, the fans will roar their approval.

    If the Habs lose, well….its very possible Price will take much of the blame whether he deserves it or not.

    Gauthier is an arrogant prick for having done this to Price and to the fans.

    We all hope it works out for the best.

  592. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I’m a guitarist, and I just saw Clapton for the first time when he was here in south Florida on tour with Roger Daltrey.  He is god!!

  593. halakitlikethat says:

    I’m actually from St. John’s, NL… just been living and working away for a few years. Back home for a while now though.

    Nice football reference though!

    And I would agree with you as well. I loved Halak’s work ethic, he never gave up. The only reason I can’t stand Price is because he looks like he just does. not. care. He acts as though he knows he has the thrown no matter what. And analysts call it “composure”.

    I’d love to see a revitalized Price with Halak’s work ethic. If that happens, I’m a happy camper.

  594. Duracell3 says:

    Dastsyuk wasn’t even drafted for 2  years after he was eligible….

     

    As for Halak, I wasn’t suprised he was traded at all. Price is not as good of a goalie as Halak right now. He very well may never be, however to fit under the cap with any room it is a much safer choice going out several years. Especially when we have a $7mil+ superstrar scoring 12 goals.

  595. Caper says:

    Very cool. Probert was the best scrapper ever. Sad, very sad.

  596. joeybarrie says:

    Did you not watch Price face 55 shots against Nashville????????

    OH YEAH, I would actually say you didn’t watch our heroic defense keep most of the shots out of the dangerous areas. You didnt see our Defense blocking shots left and right. AGAIN, saying Halak did it all by himself is just stupid. And do you really want to go back and see how many saves Price made in 2008-2009…???? When the SAVE PERCENTAGE is the same. The you let in the same amount of goals.. So it goes both ways, doesnt it???

    As for who was more valuable in the World Juniors. I would have to let the PROFESSIONALS decide. OH YEAH, THEY DID…. IT WAS PRICE…. HE HAS THE TROPHY…. What do you do for a living that makes your opinion stronger then the OFFiCIALS INVOLVED IN THE TOURNAMENT??????

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  597. HardHabits says:

    Your reading of the situation is simplistic IMHHO. I wouldn’t even begin to claim that I know the answer. Who can figure these guys out? Moves out of nowhere. I will say this. It is part of a plan. The Habs will always try to make the playoffs because of the revenue benefit. In the past however they’ve squandered the ability to build depth because they were always blowing everything now on building a winner today for this season and all moves were made with short-term gain in mind.

    Which brings us to today. The Habs are not going to tank, at least not intentionally and believe it or not, not to my chagrin. They will however, at least by statements made by PG, put a competitive team on the ice that fights for a play-off spot and at the same time develop depth in the farm system to build a team that will be stronger year by year. The big blow-up of last summer was just a 1st salvo in a major rebuild.

    The Halak trade was a difficult decision to make but a calculated one. They played Halak in the playoffs, made some serious cash, raised Halak’s trade value and got a very good trade out of it. What did Huet bring? Those two prospects that Halak brought are far more NHL ready than anything the Habs will draft next season.

    Food for thought.

    When Halak was here I called him out as number 1 within like 20 games into the season. He was really only the starter by game 50 or so and even then it was tentative. He was undeniably the go to guy in the playoff run. Now, Halak is no longer a Hab. Time to deal has long since past.

  598. Caper says:

    You working on the rigs? Newf eh? Cape Breton boat people!!

  599. fbkj says:

    im being snarky

    mostly about koivu

    being chased out of montreal for only knowing 3 and half languages

    while those chastising him barely knew one

  600. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s not an impossible situation with a core of qualified leadership, defencemen, solid role players and scorers among the team. This isn’t the Florida Panthers or the New York Islanders. The GM decided to go with the younger, cheaper goalie who potentially has a higher ceiling than the goalie he dealt. It’s a hard decision but it was made and I applaud him for not playing it safe for his job security, which a lesser man might have done to keep the fans off of his back and went in the longer-term interests of the team.

    I still don’t see why he is considered an arrogant bastard all of a sudden, he made the choices he had to make, but he hasn’t taken daily media interviews since he got the job talking about how he’s building the best team the league ever saw and using meaningless buzzwords to do it. Gauthier thinks he knows more than the fans about how to build a team and that’s arrogant? I’d hate to have a humble GM on the job who thinks he should read our advice for what to do.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  601. Caper says:

    Hendrix was a better guitar player.

  602. Caper says:

    Maybe we should eat more snickers bars.

  603. joeybarrie says:

    How JADED are we that we truly believe that as fans we know more than MOST of the current and previous management of the Canadiens.

    What exactly has PG done to Price? Trading away any chance we have at winning?

    Its so hard to sift through so much stupidity.

    I really really wish that we could see how our sofa GM’s do in the real NHL… But we cannot, we must simply sit here and hear how great they WOULD BE, and how if it was done like this we would have a Cup every year.

    How is it this 23 year old did so well when he was 20 and now he will have no chance? Contradiction city… Change it from MONTREAL to CONTRADICTIONVILLE…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  604. halakitlikethat says:

    Cape Breton? Nice, I have family there.

    No, actually I’m a petroleum engineer. Texas tea baby!

    Trying to find work here in the province was brutal. Things should be turning around soon though.

  605. TripleX says:

    No one seems to care that LeBron can’t speak English. xD

    Yes, it was silly to condemn Saku for not speaking a fourth language.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  606. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Hendrix and Clapton were great friends and contemporaries actually.  Clapton was devastated when he heard of Jimmy’s untimely passing.

  607. punkster says:

    Best not to let crap like that eat you up inside. Saku represented us all in the finest way anyone could. He gave his best and will always be remembered and honoured here for that. I will expect nothing less from the next Captain, whoever that may be.

    FREE TIMO!

  608. badbalance says:

    Could someone pl explain to me how RFA works as in, how long does it take to get a player signed, Lapierre and Price still haven’t been signed in over a week after the free agency started.. Is there a certain freeze period before he can get signed if other teams offer or something?

  609. halakitlikethat says:

    You need to drop your PASSIONATE man-crush for Price dude, it’s creeping people out…

     

  610. fbkj says:

    told you a while ago triple that we agree more than you know 😉

  611. halakitlikethat says:

    Intelligent viewpoint.

    Much appreciated, HardHabits.

  612. Caper says:

    Didn’t know that they knew one another. Must have been some wild parties with those two.

  613. fbkj says:

    agreed

    sadly

  614. TripleX says:

     

    Now you are just trying to scare me dude.  xP

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  615. fbkj says:

    facebook

    *like*

  616. Caper says:

    My wife’s uncle by marriage worked for an oil company involved with rigs off NFLD. Funny thing is he is from Texas. He retired last year and moved back to Texas.

  617. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Oh hell yeah.  Clapton was on an extremely succesful tour with Cream and he bought a bunch of vintage Fender Stratocasters, he gave one to his buddy George Harrison,  and he was to meet Hendrix the day after and he was gonna give one to him as a present,  the next day he heard thru the media Jimi was dead,  he was devastated.

  618. punkster says:

    By the way TX, the Nike quote is ok for marketing but wouldn’t you rather use The Bard “Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them”

    FREE TIMO!

  619. HardHabits says:

    The Habs IMHHO need to get away from being bombarded by 45 shots per game.

    Next order on the agenda is score more goals.

    Bottom line:

    Halak isn’t responsible for either of those elements in a game. It was a trade off. Halak was worth more on the trade market and Price will cost less.

    There appears to be an upward trend coming in the next 3 years, and a lot of tank jokes, but with all due respect I see this as a rebuild. Last summer attested to that.

    The bigger picture coming into view is still a little hazy. As the approach nears it’ll get clearer. I am patient enough to wait see what develops in the course of this current 5 year plan but lately I’ve witnessed a lot of wounded and shell shocked Habs fans in their collective angst. It’ll be alright.

  620. Caper says:

    Good one. Be nice to see Lebron punch him in the head.

  621. TripleX says:

    Wasn’t George Harrison’s cheating on him with Clapton?  I thought I heard that somewhere.  Or maybe it was the other way around.

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  622. Storm Man says:

    He never went to University. He went to the NBA right out of high school.

  623. TripleX says:

    Is it really from a Nike commercial?  I seriously had no idea.  I saw it on the internet yesterday and I liked it, but I assumed it was a quote from some literary work.  NIKE?  WTF?  LMAO

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  624. HardHabits says:

    Hendrix is in a class unto himself.

    Clapton, who I ‘ve seen live, Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were all Yardbirds and of the 3 my fave was always Page, that was until I heard “Blow by Blow” and “Wired” by Jeff Beck.

    I am a total guitar aficionado. I can’t believe I only recently discovered Chet Atkins.

  625. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Yes,  thats another story all-together.  Harrison and Clapton were good friends,  and Clapton fell in love with Harrisons wife and had an affair with her.

  626. Bugs says:

    Especially after what Jaro pulled on those two in the playoffs.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  627. punkster says:

    Therapy can be of value.

    You’re bang on about the SOG and our goal production. It may stand to reason that if we increase our SOG (quaility shots, not blue line floaters) we would be spending more time in the opposition’s end of the ice and they less time in our end. But our problem last year was getting to their end, with control, or taking away control from them. I’m not explaining it well. Puck possession maybe. Too many times we played dump, line change, chase, fall back, block shot, clear zone, dump, line change, chase, etc.

    How do we control the puck better from our zone to theirs and create the quality SOG opportunities?

    FREE TIMO!

  628. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    hey,  you’re preaching to the choir dude.  Hendrix is my #1 and Clapton is my #2.  Jeff Beck and Page are also very talented dudes as well.

  629. punkster says:

    Now look, I’m only going to point out something obvious to you here so don’t get all defensive.

    This from a guy with the name “Halak” in his name.

    There. It had to be said and I said it as sweetly as possible.

    FREE TIMO!

  630. HardHabits says:

    I think they need a stronger offensive line, a bigger center, bigger guards, and bigger tight ends. I am tired of all these lateral and back passes and hail mary long bombs. Let’s see them run the ball into the end-zone already!! No wait that’s football. Nevermind.

  631. Bugs says:

    Thing that started worrying me about my boy the Priceberg had nothing to do with his reflexes (which are amazing), or his positioning (which is sometimes floppy outta panic) or his mental toughness (which tends to frazzle when he gets mad), but what is I believe to be the MOST important aspect of a goalie’s game:

    Keeping track of the puck.

    He loses it. He can’t follow it. He doesn’t see it.

    That scares me.

    Halak’s eyes were those of a lynx. Could track the puck with brio, anticipate opponents’ plays with daring acumen. Could see THROUGH guys, ferpetessakes.

    For the Kid, if this can be worked on and improved and mastered as I KNOW his other…foibles can, well then we gots ourselves a num1 goalie, I reckon.

    But you gotta see what you’re tryin to stop, no?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  632. punkster says:

    Pat Martino, 1972,  “Sunny” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7kNKDmrT20

    John McLauglin, Mahavishnu Orchestra, 1973, Birds of Fire (the entire freakin’ album) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv_bkS5VVaA

     

     

    FREE TIMO!

  633. HardHabits says:

    Malmsteen? Eek!! I am not into pyrotechnics. Music yes.

    Hackett, Howe, Blackmore, Hendrix, Beck, Clapton, Page, Gilmour, Fripp, et cetera, those were great guitarists who played in great bands and/or made great music. Malsteen’s music is inconsequential. He plays lights out I will admit. I’ll also admit that I don’t like listening to him play.

     

  634. ed lopaz says:

    I think you should save your “applause” for Gauthier.

    You might need it in about 10 months when Molson gives him

    his walking papers.

    If the habs miss the playoffs, Gauthier is done and so is Price.

  635. SeriousFan09 says:

    I applauded Kovalev for his 2nd-best year ever in 07-08, doesn’t mean I was one of the few dozen people picketing the Bell Centre to save him. I’m giving PG benefit of the doubt since he doesn’t have much time on the job yet but so far I can’t greatly protest his moves, I like most of what he’s done so far. Doesn’t mean I’m a-okay with everything he’s done but so far I think he’s making the moves to put the team on the right track. If the team falters because of moves he makes, I’ll reconsider my opinion of course as the 10-11 season starts, but as it stands, I like how the team is poised to perform next season.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  636. punkster says:

    Crazy, eh? Just when you think you got the perfect tag line some jaxkass shoots it down 😉

    This coming from a guy who uses “Free Timo” as his. WTF indeed.

    FREE TIMO!

  637. punkster says:

    But…your point is made. Offense!

    FREE TIMO!

  638. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I agree,  but, he’s 22.  I mean let’s give him a chance to develop before we throw him out with the bath water.  From what I’ve seen with his strong family I predict he will be a winner.

  639. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    As a guitarist, I respect Yngwie for his raw talent,  but I’d rather listen to Bucket Head if I had the choice.

  640. axman88 says:

    When’s the madmax special????

    Which team did he decide to sign with?

     

    I can’t sleep the suspense is killing me!

  641. Clay4bc says:

    I got more of a chortle than a LOL out of your comment…well done.

    __________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  642. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I don’t know man,  if you look past the gimmick and listen to Bucket Heads playing,  the guy freakin shred’s.  I’m more into Blues/Rock myself,  but I can apreciate all forms of music.

  643. crabvader says:

    Aw come on, who deleted the Bettman, Sather, etc comments?

    I was just about to show my brother… some of them were actually funny.

    Did it get out of hand or something? I thought it was pretty cheeky humor.

  644. axman88 says:

    We have our own superstars that were drafted in the top 10 overall (not all from the same year):

     

    Team:                               Miami Heat          vs         Montreal Canadiens

    1st overall pick:              Lebron James          vs          Roman Hamrlik

    4th overall pick:                Chris Bosh            vs           Benoit Pouliot

    5th overall pick:              Dwyane Wade         vs            Carey Price

  645. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    It’s pretty sad that RDS is so starved for Quebecois player new’s involving the habs, that they have to turn the Lappy signing into a one hour special.   lol

  646. HardHabits says:

    Malmsteen is undeniably a virtuoso but that doesn’t always translate into better music let alone a better musician. Nevertheless that’s highly subjective.

  647. Clay4bc says:

    Um…just saying here, and really don’t want to get involved in your dispute (this time)…

    But were those 55 saves in an elimination game in the stanley cup playoffs against the presidents trophy winners, or against the defending champions?

    It was great for Price to have that game, and very exciting for me as a fan. BUT HALAK DID IT WHEN IT MATTERED!

    _________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  648. Bugs says:

    They sure are stupid for wanting to appeal to their target audience, aren’t they?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  649. Bugs says:

    How old was Cam Ward when he won the Cup?

    How long are we gonna keep sayin “but, he’s 22?”

    Until he’s 37? He’s been here three years!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  650. Adam says:

    Well, he’s a tall guy so he’s got that on Halak. Harder to screen, so if you’re right on this, hopefully it’s just a matter of learning to stay cool in certain situation such as when the crease is getting crashed and he’s gotta focus on the puck, not on Ovechkin’s huge ass in his face.

     

    I’m looking forward to seeing what he does this season. I think he’ll do good, though I’m not one of those “He’s got a pedigree!” guys. I just have a good feeling about him, somehow.

    And no, I’m not slagging on Halak. I love that guy. But I know the reason he had to go had nothing to do with his play, and everything to do with the dollars, and on management deciding that Price was the future (enter Tony with his Gainey conspiracy theories). Such is life. I like the team, on paper at least. And I’m pretty excited by some of the prospects – looks like we might finally have some size coming into the forward ranks in Eller, Palushaj, Leblanc and Avtsin. The next few years might actually be looking up (ha, see what I did there?)

  651. Clay4bc says:

    Remind me how many goals Saint Patrick let in his last game as a Hab?

    The point is, even the greatest of them all have bad games – and plenty of ’em.

    __________________________

    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  652. Adam says:

    With all due respect, I cannot stand Malmsteen. Now, Satriani! There is a shredder for ya.

    Just my taste, but I’d say that SRV is the tastiest guitar player ever. His phrasing is out of this world.

  653. HardHabits says:

    Interesting stuff Buckethead. I like that trippy stuff.

  654. Robert Gainey says:

    I liked my posts.

  655. kempie says:

    Zappa/Vai always does it for me.

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  657. habrez says:

    Two trends in NHL starting goalies:

    North American: high draft pick, typically built larger. Examples: Luongo (6″3 1st round), Price (6″3 1st), Mason (6’4, 3rd round), Brodeur (1st), Roy, Ward (6’1 1st round), Giguere (1st round), Fleury (1st round),

    Europeans: late draft pick, typically smaller. Examples: Halak (9th round, 5’11), Vokoun (9th, 6′), Hasek (5’11, 10th round), Khabibulin (6’1, 9th round), Niemi (6’2 undrafted), Kiprusoff (6’1, 5th round), Rinne (8th round, 6’5), Nabakov(6′, 9th round), Hiller (6’2, undrafted)

    There are some rare exceptions like Raask (1st round), Ryan Miller (5th round), Turco (5’11, 5th round) but for the most part this is the case.

    Correct me if I am wrong (Internet too slow to check it up) but I believe only Hasek (2), Niemi and Khabibulin have won cups since the modern age of the european influx. This leaves stanley cup winners in Roy (3), Giguere, Ward, Fleury, Brodeur (3), Osgood (3, 2 as a starter), Belfour, Richter, Vernon and Barasso. 

    So if you go with history, Price may have been the better choice to keep. North American high draft choices are more likely to win the cup. But what it really comes down to is the team. Roy won on his own but also with some very good Colorado teams. So did Brodeur. So did Hasek. The rest of these guys all won with some very good teams in front of them.

    PG decided that in order to be a better team we needed to improve our forwards with the trade of a great goalie for a very good prospect. The money he saved in the trade was used to resign our best forward last year.

    But only time will tell if he made the right move. Looking forward to next season, but not so much the Price versus Halak.     

     

  658. SensFanSpezza says:

    Haven’t you heard?  No humor allowed.  This site only permits Price praising/bashing, line combinations and “you’re a troll” conversations.

  659. Clay4bc says:

    I caught Malmsteen in concert back in ’86, backing up Dio in Calgary. It was an incredible show, and Malmsteen is even more impressive live.

    Dio too, actually – what a voice he had. Shame he died…

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  660. rocket909 says:

    I often read your blog and always find it very interesting. Thought it was about time i let you know…Keep up the great work

  661. Clay4bc says:

    Yeah man – that was the one! To this day it remains one of the best live shows I’ve ever seen.

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  662. punkster says:

    Friendly critique. I don’t know a thing about the subject however what you have presented provides no proof. I don’t see much of a difference in size between NA and other goalies based on what you say here. If you’re trying to build a case for selecting Price as number 1 then this theory just doesn’t d it.

    FREE TIMO!

  663. Garry Bettman says:

    It’s ridiculous! Every single post I make (or nearly all of them) get deleted.

  664. crabvader says:

    Sloppy argument Bugs.

    Ward was thrust into the mix halfway into the playoffs. He didn’t have to put up with a whole season’s workload.

    It’s easy to go hot during the playoffs (look at Michael Leighton, who also did not have to do a whole season’s work).

     

  665. Bugs says:

    Carey didn’t “put up” with a whole season’s workload either.

    Is he 22 or not?

    Or do you mean “22 with x amount of workload” obviously won’t be as good as “22 with y amount of games?”

    Gimme a break.

    People are peole and players are players no matter how old they are.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  666. ZepFan2 says:

    What can I say Bugsy.

    I’ve been doing that for years on another site. I’m not going to apologise for it and you’re free to believe whatever you want about my intentions.

    Like they say, you can’t please everybody.

    That being said. That long of a post, for little ol’ me? I feel the love, Brotha! 😉

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  667. Bugs says:

    “It is therefore logical to conclude that the habs believe that Price is at least as good or better than Halak.”

    You’re just concluding this NOW, Eddie?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  668. ed lopaz says:

    i’m a little slowwwwwww; :-)

  669. ZepFan2 says:

    Ahem

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  670. Bugs says:

    I HOPE you’re not gonna allude to my post yesterday about “annoying”, Zeppy.

    Because there’s a difference between copy/pastin the WHOLE text except with selected lines out that you don’t wanna address, and copy/pasting the ONE line you DO want to address while leaving the resta the text alone.

    No?

    Or is your ahem about something else altogether?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  671. ed lopaz says:

    i was also wondering about the AHEM…..???

    I thought it was directed my way.

  672. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, I was picking out the sentences I wanted to address, as you did.

    Except, I had more to pick at.

    No biggie.

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  673. Bugs says:

    No, Zeppy. Not at all. I didn’t adress “sentenceS”; I addressed ONE.

    You know I like you, Zeppy. Got class and style. But when you REPOST the whole text in the VERY NEXT REPLY, it looks LESS like you “wanting to address something” and MORE like you wanting to be a smart-aleck EXCEPT where you can’t be. That’s what makes it annoying. If you wanna answer the WHOLE thing, why repost it? Because some of it stumps you, obviously, and you wanna save face where you can. Tit-for-tat, tit-for-tat, tit-for-tat… Very annoying, for it looks like you prefer to argue outta pride than out’ve fun for the debate. Buddy knows what he said. Just put dashes – to address every point; works just as well, saves space, AND doesn’t look like you got your knickers in a knot and must save face at all costs.

    Not saying you’re doing it (like your friend does); just saying that’s what it LOOKS like.

    Selecting ONE tidbit to repost and retort to not only focusses the attention on something PARTICULAR , but gives the overall impression you respect the rest of it enough (whether you agree or disagree with it) not to HAVE to offer something in reply to every single part.

    I feel I’ve explained this in a more than satisfactory manner. If you persists in calling both situations identical, I’ll feel you’re doing it to me and bow out.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  674. HabFab says:

    Wow!

    Not sure what you said but Wow!!

  675. LA Loyalist says:

    Scary as it is that we are betting the farm on Price, it’s scarier that Gauthier was stupid enough to trade Halak first. 

     

  676. namgel says:

    Three more posts to make 600.

    Here’s one

    LEAFS SUCK !

  677. Danno says:

    599

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  678. Danno says:

    600

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  679. Bugs says:

    You did it, Danno!

    You know what to do now: Book it.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  680. secretdragonfly says:

    Post of the day, right there!!!!!

  681. Curtoph says:

    I think he’s probably just still hanging out in B.C, with out a cellphone?

  682. Garry Bettman says:

    Me, obviously.

    I am, after all, trying to destroy the Habs.

    (And all other Canadian teams too, except Toronto. I’ve hired Burke to take care of ’em for me.)

  683. Bugs says:

    I doubt a rinky-dink poster what can’t even spell the commissioner’s name right is any threat at all to the Habs.

    Hope I didn’t spoil your mojo though…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  684. likehoy says:

    almost funny…too bad it’s not funny when people die.

  685. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So that explains everything about Price. Being called Jesus Price, The Franchise, The Next Roy…He believed all the crap as well!

    Except he did not die…well his on-ice play did 😛

  686. Caper says:

    Unfortunately Jaro Halak passed away today. Apparently after reading this website he actually started to believe he was that good. He became so full of sh-t that he his bowels backed up and he died of internal full of sh-teritis.

  687. JIMVINNY says:

    But since he didn’t die, then based on your logic, it is funny.

  688. Caper says:

    Sorry. Only fun intended. Seriously. Allan Walsh probably had John Davidson review this website during contract negotiations.

  689. Caper says:

    I can only imagine if this site was available in 1995. For sure it would have blew up early December.

  690. likehoy says:

    hmm…i guess you’re right, but you know the story of the boy who cried wolf!

  691. likehoy says:

    haha well 3.75m is just about right…if he read this website or visited all the stop signs in montreal, he’d think halak was worth closer to 10.

  692. Caper says:

    I think most people are p’od cause they can’t wear their Halak stop sign t-shirts in Habs colors. hell I’m a Price guy and I want one of those t-shirts.

  693. JIMVINNY says:

    And taken half the internet with it.  I can’t even imagine.  I remember how upset I was as a 13 year old, and I’m sure I would have put some of the current trolls to shame.

  694. Caper says:

    I was in my 30’s and a huge fan. It was brutal but at the same time  it was 50/50 for support of Roy and management. Roy didn’t like Tremblay since his rookie year and if I recall they roomed together on the road. Alot of fans were not happy with him walking off the ice. Both sides were hot headed as they shipped him out before cooling off. As a long time fan this is why I don’t fully understand this support for Halak. And I stress don’t fully understand.  Halak is a side note in Habs history. You can make a case that trading John Leclair was more of a bad deal than Halak’s.

  695. ed lopaz says:

    cool – i was also in my 30’s.

    we have waited since 93 for this run, have we not?

    17 years of never making it past the 2nd round – its almost mind boggling and impossible to accept.

    and this year – a miracle from no where – no one expected it.

    there was a Goalie that literally stole game 5,6,7 vs Ovechkin (a player we will discuss with our grandchildren),

    who made more than 50 saves in game 5 alone.

    that has now been TURNED INTO A SIDE NOTE by virtue of the trade.

    I think i will remember Halak – he EARNED MY SUPPORT!

  696. TripleX says:

    A little premature to assess the relative degree to which the Halak trade falls in terms of damage to the franchise.

    I think it best to have at least one full season to make a judgement.  I am sure no one realized how bad the Leclair deal was till a couple of seasons had passed.

     

     

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  697. petrov14 says:

    Tremblay ran a few players outta town  :(

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  698. The Cat says:

    Theres a lot of posts I dont get or understand, but I never can understand why people just wont give Halak some respect. I guess its kowtowing to what the organization since they never have given him some respect.

  699. Caper says:

    The only trade to damage this franchise was Paddy Roy’s. Goalies are better 15 years later. Losing a star goalie is not the same anymore. Most goalies are the best athletes on the team and as in the case this year, you can pick up a very decent one at a cheap price. I’m not diminsishing what Halak has done. A trend is starting to develop. i think you’ll see goalie salaries coming down. The Olympic goalies all played horrible in the playoffs. we all know the rest.

  700. TripleX says:

     

    I think this idea that top end goalies will no longer be valued is not well thought out.  Yes, the Hawks and Flyers did well with less than excellent goaltending, but look at their top six forwards.  I tend to think good teams can overcome mediocre goaltending because they can simply outscore the opposition or keep possession of the puck.

    There are many more examples of teams that are completive because of great goaltending.  Teams like Montreal, Buffalo, Phoenix and Colorado to name a few from last season.  Is it easier to assemble a group of top six forwards considering the Cap, or to acquire ONE superb goalie.

    Greatness is earned not rewarded……

  701. George Gillett says:

    wait what happened to halak?

  702. andrewberkshire says:

    Pretty sure Leclair scored something like 12 goals in the first 5 games after he was traded, so people went nuts immediately.

  703. punkster says:

    Well done. Economic version of my run on blather above 😉

    FREE TIMO!

  704. punkster says:

    My impression is it’s cyclical. The trend to day seems to be away from depending on a great goalie only because the recent Cup wins have been due to a mix of elements, including a “hot” goalie (hot meaning flashes of brilliance versus great long term solid play). Once a truely great goalie steps up again, like Brodeur, we’ll go back to scrambling for high proced tenders.

    Relating this to Montreal I have no idea if Price is a great goalie of the future, a hot goalie who may win us some critical games or series or just an ordinary goalie who requires an extrodinary team in front of him to be successful. Let the so-called experts here and in the media forecast that one.

    FREE TIMO!

  705. ZepFan2 says:

    He was shived.

    Enjoying the World Cup, Mr. Gillette? I mean, we all know your passion for the sport.

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