Let’s try this again

Carey Price gets his second pre-season Bell Centre start tonight.

As you may have heard, the first did not go well.

The Florida Panthers are the visitors as the Canadiens wrap up a series of four exhibition games in as many nights.

Team A is winless in its two starts, and Price has allowed 10 goals in 90 minutes of action.

Tonight will be the last hurrah for several of the Canadiens kids as the team will be cut down to manageable size for the final two games of the pre-season.

Early departures: Louis Leblanc and Jarred Tinordi, with Team A bolstered by the addition of Subban, Picard, Eller, White, Desharnais and Engqvist

The lines:


The D


Henry if Gill can’t go

Boone blogs live


• Pat Hickey on the win over the Wild and quotes from the room

• Jack Todd is not a Price fan

• Neither is Réjean Tremblay

• François Picard sees Ryan O’Byrne and Alexandre Picard battling for a roster spot

• So are Max Pacioretty and Ryan White


  1. Habfan29 says:

    Thanks Dave, me thinks that the Habs need a goalie coach whom actually played in the NHL, not practiced, hell I have been a goalie for 38 years and I could play in a practice….time for NHL expereinced goalie coach, what are the chances that the habs hire Roy to help Price?

  2. smiler2729 says:

    Price this, Price that. Just play freakin’ hockey and that means the whole team, have fun, it’s a game.

    Sometimes you’ll win, sometimes you’ll lose. There will be heroes, there will be goats but in the end, as long as you compete (and isn’t that why you are all hockey players?), you’ll be fine.



  3. habs03 says:

    I know it’s been said again and again, but the guy is 23 years old, 23 years and entering his 4th season in the NHL, look at other goalies that were drafted a year before or after him, Cory Schneider, was suppose to be a future star, has played 9 NHL games and is 24 years old, Steve Mason one of the worst goalie’s last year remember how good he was as a rookie, still only 23, Jackets should trade him for a bag of pucks.. Jonathan Bernier, best goalie in the AHL last year, 22 year old, not a single NHL season under his belt, Tukka Rask, drafted the same year as Price, just finished his rookie season, Rask amazing rookie year but just 1 NHL season. People need to understand goalie’s don’t peak until 25,26,27, Ryan Miller had 6 NHL wins at Price age, Playoff hero Halak had his breakout year at age 25, why wasn’t Halak stealing the show at 22-23, don’t say he wasn’t given a chance. I’m not saying Price is going to be better than Halak or be best goalie out of the group of goalies i mentioned earlier, but people need to realize that when the Habs trade Halak, they knew, and anyone knowledge hockey fan can see that they KNOW Halak is probably going to be the better goalie for the next 2-3 years, but they project that Price will be playing at a higher level in the years after that. Whether they are right or wrong, time will tell, I just hope they made the right choice, but with that said, I can say I am so happy that management has the guts to make a choice and stick to it, forget hockey skills, but from a PR stand point, from a marketing stand point, from a business stand point, Halak should have been signed and Price traded, yet the Molson, P.G. etc didn’t take any of those factors into consideration when making their choice, which makes me happy knowing that the team won’t make choices based on want the fans want in things such as having more of a French team and so forth, I know some might not agree with that just my opinion.

  4. Matt_in_TO says:

    Avery makes $4 million?!


    - In Price We Trust

  5. nunacanadien says:

    I think the Gazette editors are now learning what the wives of hockey fans already knew on April 23, 2009, that Price is in a slump.  Whether that slump costs him his pro career with the Habs is hard to forecast.  I can predict though that Price’s backup will again play starter this year and our official number 1 goalie will have his stats carefully protected, like some former Russian General of old, at least the media is calling it like it is and not spewing the Bob Gainey view of the world.

  6. RJ says:

    Jack Todd’s piece truly tells it like it is.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley


  7. HabFanSince72 says:

    I said Price may have potential.


  8. Jordio-oh says:

    If pre-season meant anything, Viktor Stalberg would have been last years hart trophy winner. But he was traded away for 50 point hopeful, Kris Versteeg.

  9. CERF says:

    the confidence in his “abilities” come from a successful hockey carrier in every level hes played in (not including the NHL.. mind you that’s where it counts) however he still is 23 years old.. goalies hit their stride at 25+ years of age. I still have faith in our boy, just take it all with a grain of salt.

    who knows! in 1-2 years from now(or this year) he might be winning us cups to the point where we have to book our tickets on ST.CAT a year prior!

  10. Matt_in_TO says:

    But there’s no outlet pass in figure skating.


    - In Price We Trust

  11. SmartDog says:


    - A rebuttal to RGM –

    I have three kids.  One of them almost always thinks of other people.  Even though she’s only 8 years old, when someone smashed my window and stole my laptop out of my car she insisted on giving me 5 bucks to help pay for the repairs. Wouldn’t let me say no.  Another one usually thinks of others, is very polite, apologizes easy, shares always, and holds being fair as REALLY important.

    The third one… is a good kid, pretty much is happy with whatever comes her way which is great… but is really good at looking after HER and just her.  She seems to have trouble understanding why other people might not be happy with her no matter waht she does. She doesn’t quite seem to get any of the rhythm of responsibility and accountability that came so easily to the other two. She’s just different that way.  When she does get corrective feedback she often breaks into giant tears as if she’s been slapped.  She’s getting better but it teaching her accountability is going to take a long time.

    To me, this is Carey Price.  While other improving players show up in camp with more muscle, more speed – more of whatever they know they need to become – Price shows up having spent the summer “getting away from it all” by rodeoing. Kind of an odd way for an athlete to spend the off-season given the potential for serious injury, and also that most athletes seem to like to avoid the spotlight in the summer.  Price’s contract takes a LONG time to sign and when finally signed is for more than most people think is reasonable.

    His responses to the media show the kind of flip stuff you get from Gomez.  But Gomez, for as much as I don’t like his signing, has paid his dues.  He’s a bonafide NHLer and has a record of success to prove it.   Price is a prima donna. Which is fine.  IF you really can bring the house down.  IF you’ve shown by your performance that you deserve it.

    And while it’s not right to boo him or call him names or any of that – and don’t put me in the  camp of the small number of people who do those things – I think it’s perfectly find to say Price has me freakin pissed off/worried/frustrated… and that he needs to play better. He needs to shut his cake hole unless it’s to deal honestly with what’s going on.  He needs to stop acting like a prima donna and cowboy up on the ICE.  

    He needs to fight for his pride and EARN it back on the ICE.  He needs to stop acting as if he knows he’s better than all of this.  He’s as good as his performance and no better and he needs to accept that.  If that makes him mad, if it makes him break things or punch things or cry on the phone to his mom than he needs to do those things.  But this blanket of calm, this “everything is okay, I sleep fine” BS is, as much as anything, what pisses me off. 

    Price has the physical tools to be a great NHL goalie and he HAS shown that.  But he’s also shown that he’s a boy when it comes to facing certain kinds of situations.  For me, he’s taken his annointment as our #1 and turned it into $5.5 million. And that says “I’m ready”.  But he doesn’t LOOK ready.  And to me, letting him know that became fair game the day he signed that (inflated) contract.   So be ready Carey or take the crap. 

    And by the way, you don’t look ready either for the season or for the media. Hear it. Suck it in.  And STILL play great. THEN you can be a Prima Donna say whatever the f-k you want to the media and we’ll all laugh with you.   Until then, you get what you deserved.  The 5.5 million isn’t free money.  And it’s not for punching the clock.  It’s for being accountable and that means working on your weaknesses and getting better. 

    For a couple of guys that meant putting on bulk. For you that means working on actually listening to feedback and figuring out how to turn the pressure into firey play and win games.  Oh, and your glove hand could use some work too.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  12. SeriousFan09 says:

    Much like Guy Lafleur before him, he could only unleash his true potential when he could ditch the helmet as he skates and let his hair flow freely!


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  13. pic1983 says:

    I know its still early, but this is definitely a candidate for quote of the day.  I got a good chuckle out of it:


    “But Avery said referee Paul Devorksi told him that he had gotten his 10-minute misconduct for going after a superstar. “He specifically told me I got it because [Kovalchuk] is a superstar, and I can’t go after a superstar,” Avery said of the dialog that took place in the box with 9:07 to go in the second. “I told him I make $4 million. I’m a superstar, too.””

  14. Cam_1 says:

    Habs fans cheer on the Habs …Hab fans don’t boo Hab players…Leaf fans do !!!

  15. shootdapuck says:

    Same percentage as the fishermen who destoyed the Atlantic fishery take!


    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  16. larisalapointe says:

    Totally agree. Just as an example, last night I had someone tell me I was stupid, and it is because of stupid fans like us that Halak was traded. I was dumbfouned, this guy is one of the nicest guys I know. And we often discuss hockey. Most people ask me what I think because last year I made a few predictions and they all came true. (Part watching hockey a long time,part intuition, part luck lol) Being someone I knew a long time, I accidentally took the bait. What’s funny is he could not reply to my points without getting angry and emotional and insulting me personally, that is why below I posted that it has become a social phenomena. What makes reasonable men and women go bonkers when what they wanted doesn’t happen? I believe the goalies are not just goalies. The one you believe in speaks more about yourself than his talents you believe him to have or not have. It is all about the fan, and not the success of the team. I’m very dissappointed with all the negativity.

  17. nunacanadien says:

    Anything to bring Price out of his slump would make any Habs fan happy!

  18. adam76 says:

    So what percent of the blame do you feel Price should take for his poor play in 2010?  




  19. HardHabits says:

    Stupidest post of the day. Nobody wants Price to fail.


  20. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Anyone see the Brezzer on Battle of the Blades last night? He looked really comfortable out there, I guess he missed his calling.

  21. shootdapuck says:

    Same old issues with JOCKSTRAP TOAD he just cannot fathom/accept anyone who has a salary bigger than him.

    If Price and Goatier were performing for free Toad would love them poetically!

    Why do you think he is in Canada to begin with? Closet Leftos in the US are about as welcome as a cold sore on Grad night!



    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  22. Matt_in_TO says:

    That’s not very encouraging to hear.  I honestly thought he was more experienced than that.  I hope he at least played goal before becoming a coach.


    - In Price We Trust

  23. adam76 says:

    Reading your post – you feel that Price has the ability to be a great NHL goalie.  What facts support your theses? Looking at Prices actions the last two seasons (on as well
    as off the ice), I simply cannot understand how folks still have such
    confidence in his “abilities”.  He is young – yet entering his 4th NHL season, he is not a rookie – yet everyone treats him as so.



    Why do you think this kid gets so many “second”

  24. nunacanadien says:

    If Price sits backup this year, its not because of the media, its not because some fans booed him, it’s because the coach and management want Price to sit on the bench.  It is unfair to pin all of Price’s slump his failure so far on anyone but Price.  Hockey players after all are the ones on the ice not us.

  25. Danno says:

    His hair is a mousse experiment gone horribly wrong, in my opinion.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  26. nunacanadien says:

    I think Todd saw what a lot of people saw, Halak playing with his defense.  Price practically treats his own defense like the enemy, and treats the enemy like his team.  What do I mean by that?  It means in any game, watch how Price manhandles his own defense, but yet he lets the other team basically walk in scot free.

  27. Cam_1 says:

    Finally some said it ! Awesome post RGM. I just hope Carey is giving a chance to gain some momentum tonight…and the boo birds don’t come out before the puck even drops. I wish the fans would love and support the team/ players unconditionally…lets try supporting Price through the thick and thin for say like 6 months ..and see how he responds…I bet it will be positive…cuz we already know how he responds to negativity, bashing, and booing…and who can blema him ..no player in the world would respond good under those conditions.

    I know some say he had more than enough time to prove himself ..during that time the idiotic fans were on his back… he is still only 23 …  in conclusion lets try supporting and cheering the guy no matter what for an extended period of time..like any fan of a favorite team would do…You the bashers have already tried the other way…and its not working out too good. So ya…hey how about a little unconditional love and support for your favorite team/players ..including Price. What a genious idea hey …cheering on your team/ players…nice concept eh ??


  28. quentin_stuckley says:

    i understand the turmoils of the former eastern bloc.  i didn’t mean to offend, it was a little geographical humor.  as to being culturally insensitive i did not mean offend anyone.

  29. HabFanSince72 says:

    I still wouldn’t mind being him.

    Heck, I’d accept getting booed by 23,000 people just in exchange for his hair.


  30. quentin_stuckley says:

    thank you, sir.

    sounds promising.

  31. HabFanSince72 says:

    Saying that we have a problem in goal is not “Price bashing”. Few great goalies in NHL history became number ones at the age of 23. Price may have potential, but he might not be able to carry the team yet.

    That being said, if Todd and Tremblay are in the anti-Price camp, then no reasonable person can fail to support Price.

  32. quentin_stuckley says:

    thanks stubbs.  you are a gentleman and a scholar sir.  my respects.

  33. terrygain says:

    The only certainties in life are death and taxes. You go with the odds. Gauthier went against the odds. Halak performed brilliantly last year, under pressure. 

    Price hasn’t played consistently well for 1.5 years. Will he perform better once the regular season starts and he is under even more pressure? 



    Did anyone notice how those Maple Leaf fans are such sheep? They support management no matter what. It’s no wonder they haven’t won in 43 years.

  34. Matt_in_TO says:

    I was happy when Rolie got replaced as I thought he was the problem but it’s true, he might have been it.  Would it not make some sense to go out and hire the coach Price had in Tri-City? 


    - In Price We Trust

  35. HabFanSince72 says:

    Referring to Pierre Gauthier as “Bob lite” is remarkably juvenile and disrespectful.


  36. CERF says:

    was it no laff land that was planing the parade to the cup after they beat detroit?

  37. Danno says:

    Oh Carey, get out your cane
    I’ll put on my finest silver
    We’ll go to the Mermaid Cafe
    Have fun tonight
    I said, Oh, you’re a mean old Daddy, but you’re out of sight

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  38. CERF says:

    this is what google says

    “Nash is a smart, offensive-minded defenseman who possesses a nice combination of size, mobility and puck skills. He uses his 6’3 frame and long reach to great advantage, particularly in protecting or stripping the puck. He’s also not afraid to join the offensive play. Defensively, he is solid and keeps things pretty simple. Nash has great poise and patience with the puck, but what sets him apart from many young defensemen is in his timely passing ability, particularly on power plays. Though he skates quite well for a big man, Nash needs to work on having quicker feet. Developing speed and strength are two areas that will be paramount to his future success.

    Cornell head coach Mike Schafer’s comments on Nash: “With Sasha Pokulok and Ryan O’Byrne signing pro contracts last summer, Brendan had a lot of responsibilities as a freshman and he did a tremendous job. He logged as much ice time as we could possibly give him and played in all situations. It’s just a matter of Brendan continuing to excel. We expect big things from him next year and I think he’ll be one of the top defensemen in our league.””

    Hes a LH shot.


  39. quentin_stuckley says:




  40. Matt_in_TO says:

    What the hell is Todd’s problem?  He says that we know what we had in Halak.  Maybe we did, maybe we didn’t.  Who’s to say that last year’s playoff run wasn’t just a fluke and nothing more?  We’ll never know but it’ll be interesting to see what he does in St. Louis and I was wish Halak the best of luck.  He complains about Carey ducking the media but correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Jaro not always make himself available after a loss?  He also says that Jaro was always there for the team.  Was that before or after he demanded a trade last year?


    - In Price We Trust

  41. twocents says:

    “…I wouldn’t want to be you if a goal or two is let in tonight.”

    Herein lies all the ridiculousness of the Carey Price situation.

    It’s pre-season folks, get a grip and enjoy watching the kids who will be part of the team over the next few years.

    The last time the pre-season predicted the play of a team or player during the regular season, let alone the playoffs, was… NEVER!

  42. Dave Stubbs says:

    Pierre Groulx was video coach with the Panthers under Martin and often was the practice goalie when Ed Belfour would show up at practice and refuse to take part. Which was often. Alex Auld, who was in Florida at the time, figures that Groulx played so much goal, he decided he wanted to become a goaltending coach.

    As for a published claim today carving Carey Price that claims Jaro Halak never hid from the spotlight no matter the result of the game, that’s simply untrue. At least a half-dozen times last season, Jaro chose not to meet the press. Not a knock on him, just setting the record straight.

    Dave Stubbs
    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Columnist/Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette
    • On Twitter: twitter.com/habsinsideout1

  43. RGM says:

    As a fan of both the team and the player, I sincerely hope that what you’re suggesting doesn’t come to pass. He’s aware that it comes with the territory and that the “faithful” booed Dryden, Roy, Penney, Theodore, Aebsicher, Hackett, Thibault, Moog, Racicot, Huet, and any other goalie before him. They will boo him, it’s inevitable. All we can hope for is that he gives them many reasons to cheer him this year so that the majority drown out the haters.

    Go Habs Go!

  44. Clay4bc says:

    There is a lot of deep seeded resentment towards Russia from pretty much all of the old Soviet countries. Just because “it’s near there” means nothing. To casually state that they are the same because of “proximity” is culturally insensitive, to say the least.



    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    – George Orwell –

  45. quentin_stuckley says:

    totally hypothetical situation that i would not relish in seeing.  but say you are price and you do get traded and win a cup with another team.  with your twenty four hours with the cup, would you come back to montreal and bask in the bile of your haters? 

  46. RGM says:

    Some random stream of consciousness stuff related to Carey Price and some of what’s gone on around here and elsewhere recently….

    Yesterday someone asked me about Carey’s pre-season struggles and whether it had me greatly concerned – I said that it really didn’t. If we reach mid-October and his GAA is still 6.67 and his SV% still .750, sure, but it’s only mid-September and none of this means much of anything. Then we talked about the booing and he asked what it would take to make it stop. I only half-jokingly responded: “82-0, 0.00 GAA, and 1.000SV%.” He chuckled and said that was a bit extreme, and that as Habs fans, shouldn’t we just be content with a winning club? And that’s what makes some of the things that people say about Carey so bizarre to me. As Habs fans, should we not want him to succeed and do well, rather than predict failure and that he’ll be awful this coming year?

    I get the reason that certain people hope for this – they’ve been Habs-haters for their whole lives so that’s natural. They’re the people that booed Dryden, chanted “Roooooo-waaaah” back in the 80s and 90s, they had a field day during the Thibault/Moog/Hackett years, and now the Price-bashing is the natural next step. That’s life. The stuff from them is water off a duck’s back as far as I’m concerned. Trolls will be trolls, and haters will hate.

    What I don’t get is supposed Habs fans–and there are plenty of them here–seemingly wanting him to fail and to lose just so that they can say “Should have kept Halak.” Halak’s gone, he’s a St. Louis Blue now. Montreal’s a nice memory for him, and he’s a nice memory for us, but Price is the present and the future with Montreal. No amount of braying from the fans–in the crowd or online–is likely to change that simple fact. Wishing for him to fail is nonsensical to me. Nobody wants Cammalleri to fail. Nobody wants Gionta to fail. Nobody wants Gorges to fail. Nobody wants Darche to fail. Nobody wants Gomez to fail–hmm, actually that’s not true, the anti-Gainey people get a rise out of pointing out that Gomez gets $xxx,xxx per assist or whatever. Every one of those guys, and Carey, are parts of the greater whole–the Montreal Canadiens. Wanting them to fail to suit some agenda or vendetta against the management for whatever perceived slights or missteps they’ve made when it comes to Price and the former goalies on the team that he’s shared the crease with means wishing that the team fails…and that just boggles me. Are we not all here for a common agenda: seeing the Canadiens win and sharing in that glory as fans?

    Look, I don’t care if Carey Price isn’t your favourite player. I don’t care if you really liked Jaro and wish we kept him. I don’t care if during the course of a game he lets in a goal and 50 people post about their displeasure over it. What I do care about is seeing people in September writing off the entire season and saying that we’ll be lottery pick contenders because of Carey Price. What I do care about is seeing people single out one player on the team and pinning all of its shortcomings/failures/losses on him–over and over again, completely neglecting that it’s a team game. What I do care about is seeing people swarming to make attacks on those people who stand up for Price; heaven forbid someone come forward with an appeal for calm in the face of an onslaught against a member of the Canadiens.

    Virtually any subject involving the Canadiens can be discussed rationally here. Discussion over who should be captain? Hey if I’m a Gorges guy, and you’re a Gionta guy, even though we like one guy over the other, the other is still considered a pretty acceptable alternative. Who should Cammalleri play with, Gomez or Pleks? Fun, light discussion. But mention Carey Price, all bets are off.

    So yeah, that’s what’s on my mind this Monday morning. Feel free to discuss.

    Go Habs Go!

  47. avatar_58 says:

    Good luck Price, I wouldn’t want to be you if a goal or two is let in tonight. :\ I’m cheering either way, saving my complaints and worries for the regular season.

  48. CanadienBoy says:

    Nash is 23 6’3″ 206lbs,play the pp all 4 years at Cornwall and was free agent could be a late bloomer

  49. quentin_stuckley says:

    it’s near there.  zing!

  50. Habsrule1 says:

    I still think Price bashers are an annoyingly loud minority. Habs fans are fans of every player, in good times and in bad. Price can do this, and support from the fans helps much more than bashing. If the supporters could get louder, we will drown out the annoying bashers and Price will know we’re behind him 100%.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  51. quentin_stuckley says:

    let’s hope so.  he definitely has the tools.  what a shot.  if he can stay focused he could pot at least 25 – 30, wouldn’t you think?


  52. Clay4bc says:

    He’s NOT Russian…I seriously doubt that his heart is there.


    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell –

  53. madmat411 says:

    Pic1983 posted: Im not a necessarily a Price fan or a Halak fan, Im a fan of the Montreal Canadiens.  That’s why I come to habs inside/out, a Montreal Canadiens fan site.  If you’re actually a fan of this team, stop being a hater, and start supporting the team, even Carey Price.

    my answer to that: You know what? That was perfectly said. Carey Price is part of the Montreal Canadiens team. You boo him, you boo the team. Even Cammy had said that the booing doesn’t affect only Price, but the entire team. We don’t want to hurt the team now, do we? So, let’s just cheer on our Bleu, Blanc, Rouge, no matter who wears the sweater.

  54. Malreg says:

    Goalie coach is Pierre Groulx.  According to french Wikipedia, he spent the last 4 years with the Florida Panthers.  Before that he was the video coach for Ottawa for 5 years.  Worked with Team Canada at the 2005 World Championships.

  55. quentin_stuckley says:

    whoops!  you’re right.  i totally forgot about lapierre.  non-intentionally.  wow, we do have a slight embarrassment of riches this year.  lappy’s got to play.  he showed a lot in the playoff.

  56. Ian Cobb says:

    Interesting point.!

  57. Ian Cobb says:

    He is definitely capable, but sometimes leaves his heart back in Russia. With his troubled kid brother gone now, I think he can focus on himself more this year.

  58. quentin_stuckley says:

    i usually like chelios’ quotes.

  59. Ian Cobb says:

    Might need to slip Lapierre in there, but these guys can compete for sure.

  60. Habfan29 says:

    If I were Price I would be telling my agent to start looking for a trade. Price is in a now win situation in  Montreal, he will always be compared to Halak, no matter what. Halak has  a great playoff run, so did Theodore and Steve Penney in the 80’s, and they all get shipped out and booed by ignorant fans. Price needs to get out of Montreal and I hope that he goes somewhere and wins a cup and laughs at those in Montreal that did not want him as they cry in their poutine. I sued to think that Montreal fans were knowledgeable but now I know that a great many of them are not, just read some of the post here. the hate for a young hockey player is deplorable. Good luck Carey but ask for a trade before you already shaky confidence is gone.

  61. quentin_stuckley says:

    is he a lefty or a righty?  i’ve only heard his name via cjad.  don’t know what he looks like or how he plays, but i see a lot of people respect his game.  

    better way to put it:  tinordi or nash?  if you had to choose today.

  62. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think Andrei’s had a pretty good camp so far, usually the guy is sleepwalking through pre-season and October before we see anything out of him, he gets going early and he’ll kick up a lot of points for the team.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  63. Clay4bc says:

    Well, fair enough. But I never said to stop having the contempt for him (that’s your perrogative) – I said “don’t be blinded by it”. Huge difference.


    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell –

  64. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ll stop having contempt for him when he stops writing about the Habs only when it’s fashionable to jump on a bandwagon of complaints. He writes an article about the Canadiens when he feels like complaining, not because he’s actually adding fresh perspective since all the angles were covered by the real beat writers in and outside of Montreal already.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  65. quentin_stuckley says:

    and i have no problem with that.  forward line up i could live with.

    cammy – pleks – palushaj

    eller – gomez – gio

    darche – halpern – pyatt

    patches – boyd – shultz/white.


  66. Danno says:

    He knows we shouldn’t be using the word “we” when talking about our team.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  67. Curtis O Habs says:

      Maybe Roland Melanson wasn`t the problem?

  68. Greg says:

    I am not shocked to learn that Jack Todd is not a Price fan. I am shocked, however, to learn that the editors of the Montreal Gazette are Jack Todd fans.

    “I lined up next to him at a faceoff, looked over and said “Hi Rocket”. All he did was growl.”

    -Gordie Howe

  69. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Did Halak REALLY prove that he could handle the type of pressure Price is facing? Halak certainly played very well while he was here, but he never really had the expectations that Price had. He also never started out the season as number one with people wondering when he was going to falter and lose the job. I think Halak was great and will do well in St. Louis, but no one can say with 100% certainty that Halak would have handled the pressure of being the uncontested number one here in Montreal if they had traded Price. At times, he seemed very uncomfortable with the attention he was getting last year.

  70. Ian Cobb says:

    He looks rather smooth and a player that will eventually make it here i think.

  71. SmartDog says:

    Thanks. Well timing is everything.

    I’m no fan of Todd…. but I do think he’s reasonable here at least and I like the Chelios quote.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  72. Ian Cobb says:

    Compitition is good, Dog !

  73. Clay4bc says:

    Don’t be blinded by your contempt for Todd – he made a lot os sense in this article.


    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell –

  74. Ian Cobb says:

    Even vets like AK and pouliot could be sitting out the home opener with the performance of some of the younger players so far.

  75. Caballero says:

    I think the issue here is more that people feel like J’s article is just so blindingly obvious and non-informative that anyone on this site could have written it. He plugs into the zeitgeist a week later.

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