It wasn’t pretty

A precious point squandered

Pat Hickey’s game story

• Subban: “I tried to do too much”

About last night …

Red Fisher on Taylor Hall

Pierre Ladouceur’s game analysis

• Hickey on how Leafs sale would alter TV landscape


  1. VintageFan says:

    I could shuffle!  He’s paid to coach.  That’s what he could do!

  2. Gormdog says:

    We don’t know that it’s sacrificing points.


    We are thin ish on D, Weber showing he can play a regular shift would go a long way in helping US out this season as well as himself.


    Maybe Pk on the sidelines for this game will let him realize he’s not as good as he thinks he is, and wont make bonehead cocky unnecessary moves like he did last night… which cost us *gasp* points!

  3. Gormdog says:

    Heh, not meant in a negative way. Punk as in young exuberent confident attitude…   But he’s our punk 🙂

  4. Gormdog says:

    It’s one game, give Weber a chance.


    Subban more than played badly: he cost us the game. At the WORST Weber does the same.


    At the best? We see flashes of our future Mark Streit lite.

  5. Malreg says:

    We aren’t a rebuilding or a “developing” team, therefore we do not sacrifice potential points in the standings to make a prospect feel better about himself.

  6. HabFanSince72 says:

    Maybe but I was thinking about tonight.

  7. SeriousFan09 says:

    One spotty interview with a player unexperienced in dealing with the media, conducted by a hack like Marinaro who used a series of leading questions to get the answers he wanted to build controversy (like how he exploited Price-Halak all last season) and suddenly Max-Pac is the new SK74?

    JM is developing the rookies in his own style, he knows he’s a lot less likely to make 10, 15-year veterans suddenly change their style because he tells them to. Different treatment because he knows his veterans will generally play a certain way but the rookies are still being developed and he can aim that development in a certain direction. It seems unfair but really, it’s like Kovalchuk or Heatley could be coached into being Selke Trophy guys.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  8. JF says:

    RDS confirms.  I think this is a good move for Subban.  Not only will it make him angry and determined to improve, but watching the game will perhaps allow him to see how he can simplify things and avoid some of the rookie mistakes he makes.  How it will play out on the ice tonight with Weber in Subban’s spot is another story…

  9. habfan53 says:

    ” The PunK”  ?? where does this come from??

  10. HabFanSince72 says:

    I don’t think there’s a conspiracy. Martin knows he has a problem and he’s shuffling players to see if the problem corrects itself.

    I’m not sure what else he can do.


  11. Gormdog says:

    I sure do. It’s early in the season, we are playing well, and have a few prospects tearing up the AHL. No, and i repeat, no shame in giving the kid a regular D shift in the NHL for the first time in… er… ages.


    Theres more to hockey than winning on gamenight, theres the future to think about as well. Subban will bounce back from a benching, but how does Webber feel about having zero organizational confidence about his play in his own end?


    This could be a huge night for the kid – i’m excited.

  12. Gormdog says:

    PK lost us the game with the perfect mix of over exuberence and sloppyness.


    Nothing wrong with JM sending the punk a message, I just wish he had it in him to show a few veterans the same love.

  13. Malreg says:

    Hold him accountable, fine, then bench him during the game.  He should have been benched during last night’s game, but they kept putting him on, and even threw him out there in OT.   

    Do you really want Weber playing 15-18 minutes tonight on the road, when the other team gets the last change?

  14. Gormdog says:

    No chance. Martin is many things, but he ‘aint blind. We need Subban at the top of his game to have any shot at a division title – JM knows this and is trying to get the best out of PK by making him angry.


    Here’s hoping it works!

  15. Timo says:

    the true genius of JM is coming home to roost. What a freaking moron.

  16. Dintrox says:

    Interesting bit in the Hickey article. Is Max Pac auditioning for another NHL team? or does he still have a future as a Hab? He just won AHL player of the month honours. I think what he said about JM was what many people have thought already. JM is very hard on rookies while giving a free ride to the moneymakers. JM should have a thick skin after all he has coached over 1000 games.

  17. Mark C says:

    Good point Joey, while the goal was a bit fluky, the decision and pass were the correct/good play. The D had solid positioning, but while using his stick to take away the passing lane, he also created an opportunity where a deflected puck off his stick would likely be headed towards the net.  Sometimes it’s not always about the results, but about making the correct play. 

  18. SeriousFan09 says:

    JM is holding his rookie accountable. Subban played his worst game since the TBL game, a similar late-game blown lead that we ending up losing in OT due to errors from PK. Martin wants Subban to sit in the box and have to watch a game he could be playing in and think about why he’s not on the ice.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  19. Malreg says:

    …I’ve been a pretty big defender of JM, and I think he’s done 10x the job that people credit him for, but sitting Subban to play Weber?!  Is he out of his freaking mind?!?!

  20. krob1000 says:

    Subban played 25 minutes last night…Hammer was the next closest at 21:10 …..not sure how that makes him “third pair”…he is right now being used as our number 1 dman.  His pair may not be the “shutdown” pair and that assignment is going to Hammer and Spacek clearly but there is no doubt who our number 1 dman is right now with Markov out….and he is a Rookie with less than half of a season under his belt and people are riding him.

  21. SeriousFan09 says:

    From Cyberpresse’s @MAGodin, Subban will be a healthy scratch in Jersey tonight.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  22. Bugs says:

    If Weber pops in two tonight, does Soobie sit another one?

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central:

  23. habs365 says:

    I have a question for ya..whats with martin and gomez..think about this one….Gionta-Kostitsyn-Cammalleri and some of the other players has been moved to different lines or taken out of the line up..Gomez hasn’t been touched..some fans seem to be concerned about Cammalleri’s lack of effort..wouldn’t you have a lack of effort..if you were taken of the first line and put on a line with 2 players that has scored 5 goals between them..the 1st line should have never been broken up..the problem is on the 2nd line..did you notice I said problem..until the problem is will see a lot of games like last night..the good players and some of the others don’t like what they see that’s why you have’s not just mistakes..last night yes a little of both..thank God we have Carey..this game would have been a whole lot worst……

  24. Kooch7800 says:

    I agree that everyone is being too hard on Cammy and PK but your comment that he is doing Markov’s role is a bit of a stretch.  He is on the third pairing of D.  He is although getting his powerplay time. 

    PK is a rookie and will continue to make mistakes.  Until our offense picks up we will be in trouble.  Defensively I think we are fine

  25. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Thanks for the stats though. I knew they were something like that. Pleks is awesome and makes others better.

  26. Dintrox says:

    Tanenbaum has the right to first refusal if the teachers are selling. I expect the sale is long from done. I also expect Bell and others to make a competitive bid for MLSE. I like HNIC and there have been some small changes including an improved hot stove and moving Hughson to the main game that keep me hopeful.I hate Cherry myself but ratings don’t lie. People watch Cherry. If TSN goes down don’t expect RDS to survive long on its own.

  27. krob1000 says:

    Everyone is being way to hard on Cammi…..this is a guy who has never been anywhere near as responsible defensively as he has been here in Montreal….let’s also lay off PK….he had a rough night buit has been INCREDIBLE for a rookie essentailly trying to fill Andrei friggin Markov’s shoes…and for the most part doing a very damn goo job of it.  PK seems to be taking much of the negative attention to heart and I think that is a msitake personally…he is who he is and needs to play that way…I am OK with his play last night at the blueline….when he made that decision ( a very, very quick one) he knew he had to get the puck or the man…he slid…should have been enough to either get the puck, the man or both…the Oiler got the puck past him, managed to avoid Pk’s slide and the rest is history.  I think if he makes that same lide 10 times it works 8 of them…and on the other 2 the 2 on 1 is stopped once. If he does keep that puck in…it means 2 of the 4 Oilers are at the blueline and it is a 4 on 2 down low for us…..results are results though and that is hockey but we could very easily have been applauding Pk for TWO miraculous saves  ont hat PP in a row…unfortunately that wasn’t the way the ball bounced though…but PK needs to be PK.

  28. J_P says:

    Seriously.  Why would you ever take your foot off the accelerator against a team like edmonton who are young and have nothing to lose?

    Had the habs kept pushing and scored again to make it 4-1, edmonton would have been done.  No team (other than the habs this year for some reason) fold when the opposition is up by only 2. 

  29. habfan53 says:

    Agree about Darche.  I was really dissapointed when they did not offer Metro a contract and decided to go with Darche. But he brings the same work ethic to the rink.

    Also I find it funny how today nobody is blaming Price for giving up 4 goals (1st time this year) where as last year ALMOST everybody would have been all over him   

  30. J_P says:

    It was actually your post that motivated me to check the stat.  Gotta love yahoo sports player game logs. 

  31. joeybarrie says:

    Gomez did score last night, and it was flukey. HOWEVER, Gomez gave a great pass that was SO GOOD it was impossible to miss, so much so that the other team scored for him. Gomez gave a great pass to Cammi last night and he whiffed on it. The more I watch the more I see Gomez doing what he is supposed to and giving great pucks into high opportunity areas. So let’s try to remember that it goes both ways with a guy who is known for assists.

    Lets also try to remember that Edmonton is 2 wins away from being behind Boston in our standings. They arent a great team, but they are not a bad team.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  32. RiverviewCanadien says:

    yup, see my post below.

  33. Rudy says:

    I wonder if the team was told yesterday that Markov would have surgery and be out the year, that’s frustrating news for everyone.

    I am not impressed with Cammy’s attitude, I hope Gionta slaps him upside the head!

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  34. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Eller will be a star, Halpern won’t. Nothing wrong with Jeff, but I think Eller is going to be a very good hockey player in the coming years.

  35. habfan53 says:

    OK  twice in a week BLOWING a 2 goal lead.  After Montreal scored their 3rd goal last night they shut down the same as last week in Philly.  A friend was over watching the game last night and he said well you’ll get your 2 points tonight I told him don’t be so sure  ACTUALLY I’LL BE HAPPY WITH ONE. When he asked why I told him Montreal was playing kitty bar the door .  Edmonton then scored their 2nd then 3rd.

    I give Edmonton FULL credit Renney took a time out and gathered his young players told they could come back they just had to work hard.

    I don’t blame Subban as mentioned below he will learn from this. Better make this mistake now then in April.

    I do blame the coaching staff  Montreal too often grabs a lead in the third then goes into a defensive shell and tries to hold on. I expect the coaching staff to tell the players that they got the lead by playing a certain way  and to carry on with that style. (Bye the way I feel it also cost Carey his shutout the other night)

    The good news is they will probably play a full 60 minutes tonight against the Devils who are still without Brodeur and Langenbruner. 

  36. J_P says:

    Fun little stat that illustrates our lack of secondary scoring:

    Pleks has played 24 of the habs 25 games.

    The habs are 12-1-1 when he scores at least 1 point.

    The habs are 2-7-1 when plekanec is held off the scoresheet.



  37. joeybarrie says:

    We did not play great last night. The whole loss is NOT on Cammalleri. The puck he got from Subban was rolling, and Cammi didn’t do very well with it, and obviously quit. Terrible. But that was the overtime goal. Cammi still had 2 PP assists. PK played a bad game. What can you do he is a kid, and his play this season has been good enough to allow him a bad game.

    The big issue here is simple. We have 2 BIG holes. We are still missing a top 6 forward and Markov. Until we replace Markov, which is unfortunate, and big our 2nd line player we are not going to challenge for the cup. Just getting in the Playoffs is not good enough for this team.

    By the way, defensively we did not play like we usually do, Edmonton had too many high quality scoring chances, and despite Price’s good play, he let in goals he should have stopped. Edmonton played well, and they are not a terrible team. Their PK is awful, and in the East they would be between Florida and Buffalo. Their goalie had a GREAT game.

    In the end we are doing very well with the depth that is on this team, HOWEVER we obviously are at the end of the rope, and need to make a move. Problem is, we need to make the RIGHT move.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  38. joshua94k says:

    Relax folks it’s just one game in a long season.

    The positives:

    • Gomez scored last night (although it was flukey)
    • Cammalleri scored two points without being in the top line
    • Darche impresses every game, this guy bring his lunchpail to the rink everyday
    • Price played amazing

    The important thing is to learn from their mistakes. This is why Montreal fans and media are the most knowledgeable. Unlike Toronto where the team is always in ‘denial’ mode. Alot of times the media says the Leafs were unfortunate to lose and the coach and GM say they don’t know what is wrong.

    In Montreal, P.K. Subban acknowledges the two mistakes he made resulted in two goals for the Oilers, and realizes he has to play better than that. Cammalleri blames himself for the poor backcheck that led to the overtime goal.

    The key is to play 60 minuttes a game. There are no easy games anymore. This month the team will be on the road alot. They will bond well together and it will be a turning point in the season.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  39. HabFanSince72 says:

    Oh Oh.

    No Marty in NJ but Hedberg has a 0.97 GAAA in his last four.


  40. krob1000 says:–rogers-bid-for-leafs-could-spell-end-of-hockey-night-in-canada?bn=1

    Geez…did it ever occur to the CBC that Hockey night in Canada could actually just be that…not Maple Leafs night in Canada.  This would actually be great for Ottawa and some of the other Canadian markets…and if another team entered the NHL from Canada as is always speculated…Hockey Night in Canada eventually not focussing just on the Leafs could actually be a blessing.  Rogers will charge no doubt for Leaf games and the CBC will not for whatever they show and in the long run I can see many, many Leaf fans jumping ship if that were to happen…and there is plenty of room on board for Sens fans in Ontario  and their team is much better.  Habs fans are all over the country and the Habs would undoubtedly draw as well as the LEafs over time.  It may take a while but I think Rogers is playing with fire here and the fears are unfounded.  Hockey Night in Canada will never die……it may have to change…but I for one would welcome that….especially if it actually became Hockey Night in Canada and not Toronto.  The Raptors  and Jays have already for the most part lost my viewership by moving to other channels and charging…I will happily watch them for free (not that my 70/month cable bill is free) but to pay extra? only for my Habs ….many Leaf fans will do it…the nutty ones like us on HIO…but the casual hockey fan will just not have it IMO… I know I won’t with the Jays and Raptors…I am a fan…but not enough to  pay that extra coin…just not ever going to happen.  Whoever plays the most games on regular cable on Saturday nights will be “Canada’s team”…and maybe it would be better to Have “canada’s teams”anyway.  let’s not kid ourselves…much of the Habs fans were born of the days when Canada had two teams to watch and decide between….the Habs or the crappy guys. 

    Go Rogers Go! I say….

  41. J_P says:

    It could be the coaching staff telling him to take those slapshots seeing as for the last few seasons, our top-tanked powerplay has always heavily relied on a bomb from the point.  I totally agree with you though.  Rather than take those huge wind-ups, subban should use that time to move deeper into the zone and get off a good wrister.  Or he should at least go for a weaker, but more accurate shot.

    Kurtis Fosters blast last night….holy cow was that thing a laser. 

  42. HabFanSince72 says:

    How about Halpern as 2nd line centre?

  43. J_P says:

    Yeah, maybe they should get Jennifer Hedger to read his reports for him.  They should have left him at Sportsnet. 

    Anyone who knows hockey knows that moving a team who’s arena is packed every night to a city where they dont even have an NHL-calibre rink yet doesnt even make, especially when theres at least half a dozen teams that are more suitable to move.  Makes more sense that they were meeting to exchange public funding ideas, seeing as Quebec is ready to commit huge tax dollars to bringing back an NHL franchise. 

  44. SeriousFan09 says:

    HNIC should be taken off of life support, it’s made a parody of itself with Healy, Stock, Milbury, Cherry, Maclean and so on.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  45. SmartDog says:

    That’s what kills me about him. LOL  Most of his stuff is like that… he stretches out stories that are non-stories. If he was blond and had awesome boobs I might watch. Might. I can’t see why this guy is even on tv.


    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  46. JohnBellyful says:

    Agree with what you have to say. And Eller and Pouliet line should be getting more ice time than whichever line Gomez centres. Couldn’t fault Price on any of the goals. The tying goal was a wicked shot but I do believe Edmonton could have been called for a tripping penalty in its own end before the play went up ice. The Subban-Picard pairing did have a rough night. As for Halpern, he was sitting in the penalty box for two of Montreal’s penalties which would account for his absence on those occasions.

    Would be great if the team came up with a superb effort tonight against a wounded team that traditionally has its number. That would go a long way to dispelling fear club is turning into a middle-of-the-pack team for the remainder of the season. The real barometer, of course, will be its record in December.

  47. SeriousFan09 says:

    The thing with Subban for me is I know he’s going to make rookie defensive errors, he was always a much more offensive player in his junior years so that’s going to be a big part of his style. He’s going to make mistakes, he’s going to learn, that’s how it goes, Markov took several seasons in the NHL to become the dominant offensive force he was with MTL.

    What annoys me is his predictability on the PP, that giant, everyone-sees-it-coming slapshot that isn’t even that accurate, he’s great at keeping the puck in or managing it for the most part his shot is obvious and always stopped or blocked. Subban needs to getr back to shooting wristers, that’s how he got a lot of goals in HAM last season and he seems to have completely abandoned it at the pro level when it would be a perfectly good option to shoot and get a rebound.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  48. longtimehabsfan says:

    We played as if we were the younger team last night.  The veteran leadership and smarts was lacking.  It was stupid hockey in the third.  Players falling down, not making simple plays with a two goal lead and leaving Price hanging out to dry. 

  49. J_P says:

    Not only was it a complete non-story, but he went on and on about it. 

  50. J_P says:

    I was calling for pleks to shoot or drive the net also yesterday…Guys like Pleks and gomez like looking for the pass, but when the other guy is Travis Moen, take a shot, or drive hard to the net and let moen bang in the garbage.  Nothing against Moen, the guy is awesome defensively, but offense isnt his strong suit nor is it it his role. 

  51. SLONCOLD says:

    is this true that subban is going to be scratched tonight? wow lol

    we still got a point and not like we gave up the extra point to a team in our conference. blowing a 3-1 lead is not the biggest downfall in sports lol calm down yall.

  52. SmartDog says:

    I’m sure Martin is going to bench or demote Gomez soon. He has to.  The guy is not even playing center anymore.  He’s playing shinny-hockey.


    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  53. shiram says:

    Well the Oilers leadership (or something) was in Quebec city recently to talk about building a new arena, as both Quebec and Edmonton are planning a new arena right now. But yea, it is non-news…

  54. Kappy says:

    Let’s stay POSITIVE.  That’s how I try and live my life and when I get down or have a bad day that’s what my wife tells me.

    Les Boys are right back at it tonight and I am sure JM will have a fire light under there asses for tonights game.  It is about time that we start to turn are misfortune around when playing Jersey and I think it starts tongiht, is there a better time with Marty F. on the shelf?  And maybe, just maybe Gomer needs to go back to the place where he had his most success to find his scoring touch again.  Well, at least it’s postive thinking!

  55. petefleet says:

    Sounds like you saw what I saw.  That 2 on 1 with Moen was brutal.  Insert Gionta and that’s a goal.  Cammy looks to be really struggling to find his groove.  I wonder if the suspension has messed with his MoJo or if there is something else adrift that is messing with it.  He’s got to get going.  Your account of Gomez is bang on.  Not at all sure what he’s up to.  From your seat in the Bell Centre you get a better idea of where he is on the ice than we do from the rec room TV.

    ”’Price is a pleasant suprise”’

  56. Mattyleg says:

    I was there last night, so some thoughts from a rare game without commentary:

    We looked pretty listless for most of the first period. Shaking cobwebs of not having played since Saturday, I guess.

    Gomez spends an incredible amount of his time on the ice stapled to the left boards. I nearly broke my voice yelling at him to play in the centre of the ice. Lots of turnovers were in the centre-ice area that he had vacated.

    Price played great again, making key saves, some that were amazing.

    Pouliot was great fun to watch. Good work all game.

    Pleks must be going nuts that he always ends up in shorthanded 2-on-1s with Moen, of all people. Guy can’t hit the side of a barn.

    Reffing was pretty garbage.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  57. habitual says:

    Here is what I saw last night:

    When wingers play with Pleks, they do well.  When they play with Gomez the fall into a slump.  Others have essentially said the same.  Tha means that in order to win, Pleks’ line has to score, and either the PP must score, or our real second line, the PHD line, must.  Not good, because it means that if Pleks’ line doesn’t do the near impossible and be a dominant factor every game, we are sniffing offensive fumes.

    The second thing I saw was the regression of Picard.  I saw him make one play, but otherwise he seemed tentative and it also seemed he got limited ice time.  It meant that we had 3 of 5 D in their mid-thirties chasing fast young forwards.  It is more likely that we can grab a solid 5-6 D to spread the ice time than finding a worthwhile forward, so let’s get cracking on one problem we might be able to solve.

    Yes, Mike Boone, Gomer is a huge drain on this team.  But as I cannot fathom him going anywhere I guess we better get used to it.


  58. SmartDog says:

    Man I just find Darren Dreger the most useless, plastic, waste of tv time on the planet.  His big scoop: the Oilers are NOT moving to Quebec City!   OMG!!!!!!  Hear that thump?  It was me falling off my chair!!  Ouch!! 

    What could be more stupid?  Seriously.


    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  59. shiram says:

    Subban is a worthwhile risk and investment, but it is annoying seeing him do his wacky stuff sometimes, i just look forward to seeing him more stable and experienced.

    Gomez, no comment.

    Cammy, well we wanna see him light it up all the time, and if i’m not mistaken i read that JM asked him to play more of a defencive style? Hell the whole plays defencively… well most of the time.

    Goals against, we had a breakdown last night, but i trust our D and goalies.

    Goals for, well i like the idea of giving Eller more time, but yea we need to score more if we wanna succeed all through the year and in the playoffs. Would help to have more than one scoring line too..

    Pouliot, totally agree, he deserves a shot up there with Gomez.

    Halpern, i see that as well, could he be playing injured?

  60. SmartDog says:

    I agree on all counts.

    If it’s not time to give Gomer a demotion I’m a monkey’s uncle.  And Eller deserves a chance (as does Pouliot… but anyway..).

    Halpern was supposed to reduce Pleks PK time.  What happened to that? 

    And if Gomer is so awesome defensively, why can’t he do that?  (A: because he’s not nearly as good as Pleks).


    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  61. RiverviewCanadien says:

    See my post above SD (in ref to your 2nd line Center conundrum).

    I say why not, they have tried everything and everybody with Gomez, it just isn’t working at this point. It also has a negative impact on the players who have been playing well. I like Gomez, just down on the 3rd line for a bit, I want to see what Eller can do with talented wingers…

  62. RiverviewCanadien says:

    When Pleks is held off the score sheet, the team seems to shite the bed.

    Pleks is the best player we have, but I wish he did not play so much SH all the time (over 5 min last night). It takes energy away from him to be able to score or setup his wingers. Too much pressure is laid on his shoulders, something has to change.

    BTW Pleks gets 3 points tonight.

    I hope Gomez TOI is reduced and Eller is given the 2nd line role (at least for a few games), I really feel that would work wonders for Cammalleri. Eller is smart with the puck and works hard every shift. He can dangle like the best and on most nights, it appears the puck is glued to his blade. He can generate so much time for his wingers to be in position, and when Mike is in the O-Zone, he is quick and pivots very well…and we all know how his shot is from one knee. Sweet Jeebus I miss those goals, when was the last time he got one like that?

    Come on JM, give the kid a chance. Eller is becoming one of my favs on this team.

  63. SmartDog says:

    I’m not a rose-coloured glasses kind of guy, but I think we’re almost as good as our record.  Of course much relies on Price, but when you balance out that half of our top 6 have been in a slump half the time it seems the potential is there for even better play. Now that the PP is starting to work, if the guys can stay healthy I think we’ve got a strong team. To me – and I know the rose-coloured glasses gang will hate this – but what we need is an ACTUAL 2nd-line center. Our 2nd line stinks. That we can be as high in the standings as we are with a sucky 2nd line is quite a good sign. 



    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  64. avatar_58 says:

    No HNIC, no CBC. What a shame, can’t say as I care

  65. SmartDog says:


    1. SUBBAN. Subban is cocky and sometimes arrogant. Fortunately his talent will eventually catch up to his bravado. For now, we have to put up with his sorting out what he can and can’t do. If you take away his late-game mistake, you’d also have to take away some of the best plays he makes night-in, night-out.

    2. GOMEZ. Full credit for the goal. Sure, it was flukey but flukey goals count. Still, he ended up -1 and I don’t see him playing much better or different. 

    3. CAMMALLERI. Why are people dumping on Cammalleri. The guy is missing some of his snipes, but he’s third in team scoring and second in +/-.  A bit of a slump lately but he’s been demoted to the Gomer-line where everyone seems to mysteriously slump.  If he’s not talking to the media it’s probably because he doesn’t want to say “WTF am I not with Pleks – and what do I have to do to get back there?”  It’s obvious that Pleks makes his linemates better.

    4. GOALS AGAINST. Tough one for Price when Gorges pushes him out of the way on one goal and Subban coughs up a break-away to a sniper on another.  The glove side roofer was a beautiful shot.  Still, Price only let in 3 in regulation again… and Habs missed a thousand chances.

    5. GOALS FOR. The Habs need to bury more pucks. They’re getting better at creating chances – in the first period alone they created 5-6 good ones – but they need to be able to bury them.  Part of this might still be personell issues. It seems like some of the guys who are best at making chances out of nothing don’t have the line-mates to finish. I’m thinking of Eller and Laps.

    6. POULIOT. Pouliot to me is one of our most consistant players. He makes things happen. I’d like to see him on the Gomez line again.  I think he has the skill to add stability to that line. Just the way he controls the puck and holds it until the rest of the team gets set up is one of those things that we need more of. 

    7. ETC. Is it just me or has Halpern lost some mojo since being slammed against the boards face-first? 



    “This is a good hockey team and no matter what situation you’re put in, you’re out there with smart hockey players.” – Jeff Halpern after his winning goal against the Laffs

  66. J.J. of Turku says:


    I think I have to find a way to stay awake tonight… 


  67. JohnBellyful says:

    Where can I get me one of them rose-coloured glasses cuz the ones I’ve been wearing since the start of the season still shows the Habs are a .500 hockey team. As in, the team plays half a game half the time, and some players seem to play to half of their abilities.

    I said before the season began that Montreal would be a .500 team scrambling for a playoff spot and sadly that appears is going to be the case, despite a wonderful start. If the team continues at its current pace, winning and losing in equal measure, it will collect 57 points in the 57 games remaining, giving it a total of 89 points. Not likely good enough.

    It was nice to see Gomez get his 8th tangible last night, a goal. Maybe he can turn it into a scoring streak tonight against the Devils. We’ll need all the breaks we can get. But then we’re due for a win, aren’t we, according to the pattern of outcomes lately.

    What will prevail — recent history or painful history?

  68. 24 Cups says:

    Latest updates on possible sale of the Maple Leafs.

    Cable giant’s power play a game changer.  Could spell the end of Hockey Night in Canada.

    Game on as Tanenbaum mulls play for MLSE.

    OTPP selling off MLSE as part of a new investment strategy.

    New ownership won’t guarantee an improved Leaf team.

  69. shiram says:

    I foresee alot of negativity on here today.
    Well blowing a 2 goal lead in the third to one of the worst ranked team in the NHL doesnt feel all too good.

    Didnt get to watch the game though, only a few highlights.

  70. Trenton_Romulox says:

    I was at the game and it was truly angering to watch the 3rd period and OT. The Habs quit. Not all of them, mind you, because there always a few guys (Gionta and Plekanec come to mind) who are always working hard. But generally speaking, the team quit. The team quit with a 2 goal lead at home against one of the worst teams in the NHL. I don’t care if you’re playing the Islanders or the Red Wings, you cannot quit with a 2 goal lead. Heck, you can’t quit with any lead. You can’t quit! I rarely have issues with a team losing because they were beaten, but when a team beats themselves like the Habs did last night, it’s an absolute joke.  

    Alright, got that off my chest. Now hopefully Martin ripped the team apart last night and again this morning so they’ll get fired up to play another mediocre team in New Jersey. Not that I think ripping teams a new one is the only way to get wins out of a team, but it seemed to work at least for one game when Martin did it last week. 

    Go Habs Go!

  71. SeriousFan09 says:

    Still on IR but NJD can frustrate the Habs anyway. When Brodeur was IR in 08-09, we couldn’t get ****-all past Clemmenson.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  72. J.J. of Turku says:

    I read from somewhere that Brodeur isn’t playing tonight. Is it true? (not my reading, but the Brodeur-thing) 🙂


  73. habaholic68NJ says:

    Anyone going to the Habs-Devils game tonight at the Prudential Center?  I will be in section 9 row 18 and would love to meet-up with HIO posters before or during the game.

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