Is it tomorrow yet?

Neither of the teams in action at the ACC has a player in TSN’s Top 50.

Man, it must have killed them to omit Dion Phaneuf.

• Pat Hickey on Cammalleri’s reticence

Lars Eller on Plekanec line

Red Fisher on the contenders

• Boone asks for optimism

Habs R Us

• Sean Gordon’s French Immersion returns

In my room – Dennis Kane

• Bidding war for NHL TV rights?

And a pre-season mash-up:

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144 Comments

  1. TomNickle says:

    I’m saying there’s a better option on our roster to handle Markov’s minutes because Hamrlik isn’t capable of doing it effectively.

     

  2. TomNickle says:

    This is almost comical Robert.

    You use icetime to say that Hamrlik is good, you say that a negative +/- is okay because he was playing top minutes.  Giveaways don’t count now because there’s no uniform criteria for a giveaway.

    You can say things like Gill is slow, clutches and grabs and can’t move the puck but I can’t say things like Hamrlik ices the puck too much, blows coverages and takes himself out of the play.

    So, just so I’ve got this straight, when you evaluate a player, it’s an absolute truth, and when I do it, it’s flawed.

    Got it.

    I know this, Gorges moves the puck much more effectively than Hamrlik, he’s better in every area of the game in fact.  Breaking up Gill and Gorges could very well be the greater good for the team. 

    My point in this whole argument is that we have a better able defenseman to log Markov’s minutes than Hamrlik.  I’ve listed his flaws and how they are a liability to the team.  You attribute those flaws to icetime that doesn’t seem to affect players of similar age and experience in Gill and Spacek.

     

  3. adam76 says:

    Oh – spoke too soon.  Her it is.

  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    Price reportedly battling the flu.

    Halak would never have gotten sick…

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  5. SeriousFan09 says:

    So what else is new? That’s not exactly a newsflash to anyone, we need Hamrlik to carry us and we’re dead but you’re taking way too much out on Hamrlik for doing a job that wasn’t supposed to be his and the team stayed somewhat competitive while he did.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  6. adam76 says:

    Yes – and there would be no repercussion for the rest of the season?  Its the start of the season, your “plan” would be logical in May, not October.  Plus, its simply not necessary with the upgrades on Defence.

  7. adam76 says:

    1. Who will lead the Canadiens in scoring this season? – Cammy

    2. Will the club extend Andrei Markov before the season is up? – yes, a three year deal

    3. Will Andrei Kostitsyn be a Montreal Canadien in April? – Yes, but will be gone in the summer

    4. How many points will Benoit Pouliot score this season? – Same as last season

    5. Who do you believe is set for a career-year? - lapierre

    6. How many goals will Mike Cammalleri and Brian Gionta combine for this season? – over 50, under 60

    7. How many wins will Carey Price get this season? – 16

    8. Will the Canadiens make the playoffs, if so in what place will they finish? – no playoffs

    9. Which player is most likely to have a strong bounce back this season? Lapierre or Halpern? - lapierre

    10. What are your projections for P.K. Subban this year? – a least 3 highlight of the night plays

  8. RGM says:

    The Montreal Canadiens don’t exist in a vacuum, my friend. If you’ve ever watched a film like The Rocket, you get a glimpse into how closely many Quebecois identify with the team and especially the Quebecois players. There are many out there that point to Campbell’s suspension of The Rocket as the first salvo in Quebec’s Quiet Revolution. Whether you realize it or not, politics and sport–not just hockey–are very intricately linked on a global basis.

    Go Habs Go!

  9. SeriousFan09 says:

    Than why mention Hal Gill in the conversation at all, you just said the team must play Hal Gill and Josh Gorges for 25 minutes a night and make sure Hamrlik doesn’t and leave Subban-Spacek for the other top-4 pair. Neither of Gill-Gorges can actually do puck-moving work, they are shutdown defenders with PK specialities. Gorges has a good outlet pass but let’s not consider his assist scoring from the pre-season is a real indicator of his offensive abilities. Roman Hamrlik isn’t a PP QB, but neither is Gill or Gorges, the team had nobody who could do that job like Markov could, a PP that was built around the exceptional talent of #79. Do you believe OB, Picard can fill in a Top-4 spot even if we exclude Gill as well? The Top-4 needs Hamrlik whether you like it or not.

    As for stastistics being misleading, they are. The takeaway/giveaway standard has never been set across the league so it’s up to the scorekeepers in each arena to determine what was a giveaway and what was a takeaway and they hold standards, if you lose control of the puck and it’s picked up by the other side, is that a giveaway? Not according to all arenas, in some places it’s only when you have a clear steal of the puck off of another person’s stick.

     

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  10. Bugs says:

    Cammy has nothing to prove in the NHL and his maturity to handle our last line of defence is not put into question.

    Price does and his maturity is.

    Quite self-satisfied, I smirk as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  11. TomNickle says:

    I’m not comparing him to the rest of the league.  And that’s why the statistic is relevant.

    Do the stat keepers pick on Roman Hamrlik specifically?

    Come on.

  12. WarHero says:

    1. Plekanec
    2. Yes, depending on his health
    3. Yes
    4. 45 (25g, 20a)
    5. Plekanec (again)
    6. 75 (Cammy – 40, Gio – 35)
    7. 35
    8. Yes, 4th or 5th in the east
    9. Lapierre
    10. 40pts (12g, 28a)

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  13. Mark C says:

    Giveaways are a misleading stat, only due to how they are counted. For example, Montreal had 618 home (292 on the road) giveaways last year, second in the league to Edmonton. The Blue Jackets had 124 home giveaways. Stat keepers around the league do not uniformly count giveaways the same.  

  14. MathMan says:

    Which is silly, because they could have easily slid Kessel in. He’s certainly better than Sharp…

    That list is utterly terrible. Hype and flash over actual hockey impact.

  15. TomNickle says:

    If something should happen to Markov where we lose him for the season, we are a lottery pick team.

  16. TomNickle says:

    Markov shouldn’t be out much longer than seven games Adam.  Thanks for strengthening my argument.

  17. SeriousFan09 says:

    He’s not wonderous, but neither is our shutdown defencemen who’s also clearly our slowest skater in Hal Gill. Roman Hamrlik is a 2nd-pairing defencemen who had to fight way above his weight class last season because Markov was down and someone had to step up, he didn’t replace Markov but for ****’s sake we actually stayed in contention for a playoff spot until he did get back! We all thought we were good and doomed for the lottery but Hamrlik and Spacek stepped up and did all they could. Was it perfect? No but they did as best they could.

    Hamrlik being a -2 compared to others in the league being -15s is really stretching it when calling him a minus player. MAB was a -7 and he got soft ice time for the whole season.

    Gill isn’t exactly a beast along the boards, his outlet pass isn’t a thinf of beauty and if anyone is going to get exposed and look bad not being able to keep up with a player on a breakaway, it’s big Hal and I love the guy but if Hal Gill is in your Top 4 D, it better because you’ve got at least two defencemen injured. He has flaws but they’re not that obvious, I think your distaste from the playoffs is showing through a little and he drove me nuts then too but if he was as bad as you make him out to be, no way Spacek could have covered up for him and no way the team would have more than a handful of wins until Markov came back than it’s going for that lottery spot in the draft.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  18. TomNickle says:

    One penalty every second game is not a problem.


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