In the matter of Yemelin

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Stu Hackel listed Alexei Yemelin as one of his rookies to watch.
And in a Journal de Montreal interview, the 25-year-old “kid” comes across as someone read for The Show.

Our man Stu, who knows his hockey (as does our other man Stu, Gazette Sports Editor Cowan), describes Yemelin as “a tough customer, a physical and gritty agitator in the Darius Kasparaitis mold, the type of player that Habs fans have cried for annually.”

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182 Comments

  1. Jdub1985 says:

    You know what … we don’t need a fighter, white and moen will do.
    We need someone that will stick out a knee, an elbow, give a gentle shove into a turnbuckle … you know what Yemelin is our guy!

    and thank god for him. If his presence = less stretchers for the CH … so be it.

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  3. Ian Cobb says:

    Chuck!
    They gave him a raise and extended his contract 2 years, mostly on my recommendation. (joke)

    His shoulder has healed up and the pain has subsided a lot with his treatment over the summer. He will be Scott Gomez once again. Watch out!

  4. Chuck says:

    I’ve been away from the computer for the better part of two weeks. So… has Gomez been traded?

  5. punkster says:

    The season can’t start soon enough.

    You want inspiration google Pat Martino and read his history. Here the 22 year old guitarist cuts his first album as leader.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kEdoHGmDwU&feature=related

    Keep it real ;)

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  6. mike3131 says:

    Who the hell are you?

    It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight; It’s about the size of the fight in the dog.

  7. HabFanSince72 says:

    Every once in a while you come across something so right, so lucid, that even in a quibbling mood you can’t find fault with it. Nabokov on Russian literature. Stephen Jay Gould on Evolution. Miles Davis playing Autumn Leaves. That sort of stuff.

    JD’s defense of Claude Lemieux below is just that kind of thing. Bang on, nothing to add or subtract.

    Then again some things are just wrong. Pet funeral parlours. Celine’s stage show. Masturbating at work. Putting Theo on a list of Habs you wish had never worn the CH falls into that category. With apologies to Chris who is otherwise always eminently sensible.

    In fact I can’t think of any player who disgraced the sacred bleu blanc rouge when it comes right down to it. (I’m talking Dale Hunter or Kenny Linseman level perfidy. Or that player who mooned the entire Madison Square Garden – what was his name?) Even Ribeiro. Even Grabovsky. Even John Kordic, may he rest in peace. All had their good points.

    • Duracell3 says:

      All players have good points.

      But not Ribeiro. Theodore won a vezina for a dog$%7^ team, but Chris stated he hates him for attitude reasons. On that same note, Ribeiro is a disgrace to hockey and sport in general.

    • Chris says:

      In my defence, I never said it was rational or sensible. I just never liked Jose Theodore when he was with the Habs. If anything, Theodore has grown considerably on me since his fall from grace in the NHL. He has re-built his career and learned a sense of the humility that was completely absent from his game in the early part of his career.

      And as for Claude Lemieux, he represented a lot of the things that I despise about hockey. He WAS dirty, but not in the sense of trying to hurt people. He was the kind of guy who would stick you in the groin while fighting for the puck, whack you just above the elbow pad while skating up the ice, shove a guy from behind or facewash him but then get out of Dodge when the guy got up, etc.

      Claude Lemieux, along with Dino Ciccarelli, was also the guy (not the Europeans, for those keeping track of such things) that perfected the dive back in the mid-1980’s.

      Some will call that doing whatever it takes to win. Fair enough. But the point of Dameshek’s article was not that Lemieux was the dirtiest guy in the NHL, but that he was one of the players that he despised the most. Claude Lemieux was routinely cited as one of the most detested players by his peers back in the 1980’s and 1990’s, so I’m not entirely clear why it is bad form for some fans, particularly those that cheered for teams that had to put up with his nonsense the most, to also detest him.

      Lemieux was in that special breed of super-pest along with Esa Tikkanen, Dale Hunter and Ken Linseman. That he was also a very good hockey player was indisputable. That he was one of the most “clutch” players of his generation was obvious.

      But that doesn’t change the fact that he didn’t have a lot of friends on the ice and was a lightning rod amongst hockey fans.

  8. 24moreCups says:

    What free agents that are left would be a good fit on the team(if any)?

  9. Bugs says:

    Year’n’half ago, I was finishing my economics classes at Uni, goin over all the harm Madoff had done and such, and we were shown this video-presentation from a few years before of an ex-LA cop, turned CIA stoolie, turned again into a global paradigm analyzer, PREDICTING the fall of the US economy cuz of mortgage leases acting as loan capital (at the time anyway) and it was all very interesting stuff. Name of Michael Ruppert.
    Our professor (60-yr-old lady STILL smokin hot btw; my buddy and I would look at each other in class goin “Is it just me or she really smokin hot? Am I a dirty YOUNG man for thinkin that? How does that work?”…anyway), she suggested we all watch a documentary that was out at the time where he paints such a bleak portrait of the future, especially concerning oil reserves, it would make your hair stand on end.
    So of course, I was like “hell I wanna watch THAT for? I’m happy-go-lucky, ferpetessakes!”
    But, as some of you know, I’ve been galvanized by previously unknown information lately and in the course of my reading into said issue, his name came up again, which of course reminded me of my smokin hot 60-yr-old professor (MAN, I shoulda made a move; I coulda been her boy-toy!) and THAT in turn reminded me of the film she suggested.
    So I watched it. And she was right, it was scary. But wholly riveting regardless.
    “Collapse”

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • Propwash says:

      So, she was a G.I.L.F?

    • Say Ash says:

      Just started downloading, thanks Bugs.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      BUGS! Every teacher has a Rabbit’s foot! Not a boy toy.! And besides, they all smoke that stuff!

    • Chorske says:

      In the past year, I’ve had the chance to visit several cities that have been absolutely devastated by the crisis, Detroit certainly being the worst. I now live in Fort Lauderdale, where median property values have dropped by over 50% since 2008. Up in Fort Worth, things haven’t been quite as bad, mostly because Quebecois are buying up cheap properties, but everywhere else, it’s bad. Many of my colleagues are handcuffed to their jobs because they could never sell their houses at anywhere near what they paid for them.

      My uncle (partner in an accounting firm) said that the best description he’d heard of the fundamental problem went like this: that the irrational part wasn’t that people were buying houses at crazy prices (with the tacit approval of the banks financing the deal), but rather that everyone involved KNEW the houses were overpriced and yet still behaved as if the prices were still going to go up forever. In other words, the whole system was built on the irrational belief that the boom in housing prices would be limitless.

      I can think back and remember several people warning through the mid-2000’s that the housing boom would be unsustainable. But I will look this one up.

      As for oil: we already have several alternatives. We just don’t use them because they aren’t financially viable because we still have quite a bit of oil.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Chorske- I was in Florida the winter before last for 6 weeks. Things were half price then! I nearly picked up an income property on the Gulf side. But backed out. Scary time in the USA. They are all trying to get into Canada, where we still have values, mostly in the people here.

    • Bill says:

      Watching it now, it’s great.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • HardHabits says:

      You should visit Ruppert’s web site –> http://www.fromthewilderness.com/

  10. Adam says:

    A completely not related to the Habs post, but it seems like a slow day, so what the hell.
    I work out pretty consistently, lifting weights a few times a week and running about 3.5 miles another few times a week. However, I’ve heard about high intensity interval training, and how it’s more effective than distance running for losing a few pounds. Anybody confirm this? And if anybody here does it, can you post what your routine is?
    Like I said, completely not Habs related, but hey, gotta get in shape for hockey watching season. Screaming at the TV can be strenuous cardio.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      Ephedrine! The best value is to buy 2 dozen bottles at a time. That much should last you 6 to 8 months depending on how you use it.

      P.S. That 3.5 km run is murder on your metabolism. You’re teaching your body to hoard energy for the run. Unless there’s bears were you live I’d quit the running and just walk at a solid pace up some hills, or think of full body circuit training as an alternative cardio workout. The trick with the circuit is to plan one that’ll last upwards of 30 minutes.

      “Andrei Kostitsyn is a better hockey player than Max Pacioretty”
      – Sean Bonjovi

    • Bripro says:

      Here’s my workout schedule.
      First, I lift my arm high at 7 am, and slam it down on the alarm clock.
      I make sure to do my crunch in the shower, to pick up the soap.
      Then, I do a sit up when I’m aligning myself in front of the steering wheel.
      Then, I purposely raise my blood pressure waiting at the base of the Mercier bridge, just to get the blood flowing.
      Next comes the curls at noon with my Momesso’s sub.
      At supper comes running from the living room to the kitchen, chasing my 2 year old grandson, to put the speedy little bugger in his chair.
      Then I night, I do a sit up in bed, throw a whishfull glance at my wife, (I get the rolling eyes and heavy sigh) and slooooowly lower my body onto my pillow. And I do this every day. Got you hands down Adam.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Your workout regimen seems pretty intense compared to the average Joe, you’d get great results if you stuck with it. If you’re training for general fitness, you’re set.

      If you want to get a little more competitive, or training for sports where explosive power is required, doing interval weight training will do wonders for you.

      The thing I find is that a lot of people say they weight train, but then you see them doing lots of preacher curls or intricate ab twisting motions, which are great if you have 8% body fat but do nothing for the average schmo. With the kind of training you can see PK do at his gym on YouTube, there is no way to sleepwalk through the workout, no way to cheat.

      There are lots of workouts available online, almost too many to choose. Your best indicator is to choose those that don’t isolate individual muscles. In the 80’s and 90’s it was all about isolation and controlled movements, which are great for bodybuilders, but not for athletic performance. Nowadays, if you’re looking to improve your sports performance, you want to look for combination movements that use multiple muscles and body parts, basic movements like bench press, squats, power cleans and deadlifts.

      If you can find a gym not too busy for you to do some circuits, supersets and giant sets, you can do these exercises at high intensity with short timed breaks, and thus introduce a cardio component. You can then cut down on the running a little, in both frequency and duration, since long endurance runs don’t promote explosive strength or putting on muscle weight.

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have 2 names for you to call 1 name will be a less intense workout than the other, will leave for you to figure out which:
      Scott Gomez and Mike Cammalleri.

      Or you can call AK but he will repeat bripro’s workout routine.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Those picture of Brother Andrei in that article where he whines about his icetime have me really worried. He looks almost as bad as Alex Ovechkin this summer.

        Mike Cammalleri’s dedication to his summer training regimen is the main reason why I completely disagree with analysts who say that he has disappointed the last two seasons. Combined with the injuries he suffered, these two reasons place him as completely beyond reproach. He is a dedicated leader on the team who plays with courage and intensity, and seems to raise his game when needed. The goals will come, and even if they don’t he can’t be faulted for not trying.

        Scott Gomez has made us hope that he will appear in camp fitter than last season, but I hope he understands that 100% focus on fitness is not a one summer thing, he will need to maintain in-season and pile on the sets and reps next summer, and the one after that, until he retires. Everyone knows about the Gary Roberts effect now, you have to train full-on to just keep up with the Joneses.

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    • Mikey_39 says:

      Remember when it comes to healthy body changes and exercise, proper nutrition should account for about 70% of your program. Exercise alone will not help you lose fat. You should be burning more calories than you’re consuming through out the day in order for you to lose weight.

      I don’t know about HIT training for weight loss. In order to burn fat you have to do less intense work over longer periods of time.

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      Hey Adam,

      Interval training often refers to mixing cardio and weight lifting exercises.
      You get to burn calories during the workout, same as cardio, AND during the recovery in the next 24-48 hours when your muscles rebuild, same as weight lifting.
      I find they’re also more fun… but thats just IMO…

      I also recommend you check your diet, reduce the calories from sweets/processed foods.

      • Adam says:

        I read an article on HIIT, and from my understanding, you do some very intense cardio for short periods of time, followed by a short rest period, and then another sprint. The goal is to exhaust the caloric reserves in large muscles, the end result being that you continue burning calories at an accelerated rate for hours after the workout.
        It kind of sounds a bit ‘out there’ to me, but some people swear by it.
        I did adjust my diet a few years ago, and ended up dropping about 13 lbs. I’ve just hit a wall, and want to drop that last little bit that’s keeping me from getting them abs all the ladies love.
        (That was kidding. Kinda.)

        • Trisomy 21 says:

          That’s my interpretation of HIIT as well. From what I have heard, this and plyometrics are some of the best methods for burning fat. Like most other people have stated, obviously diet is very important too, and if you drink green or oolong tea regularly, you will have a great metabolism.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I have read about it. The scientific papers look solid, and I actually know an exercise physiologist who studied this and found similar results to Dr Tabata, the Japanese scientist who did the original work.

      See here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-intensity_interval_training

      The problem with the Tabata method is you need to be able to get to 170% of VO2 max, which I understand is extremely difficult. Some of the newer methods use lower intensity of exercise for slightly longer durations, and claim equivalent results.

      You can do it with an exercise bike, but apparently also skipping rope or even burpees.

      It’s worth a try.

    • mike3131 says:

      @ Adam:

      Instead of doing those long, boring, half hour runs, do sprints! If you have a treadmill, set it to a steep incline and high-jogging speed and run for 20 seconds, then take a 10 second break, then get back on for 20 seconds, then rest for 10 seconds. Repeat (20 on, 10 off) about 6-8 times. Works the cardio much better than a daily 20-30 minute jog.
      Mini-circuits are also very effective. For example, do pushups (clappers, on a med ball, regular), treadmill (high speed/incline), med ball slams, chinups and whatever else you can do. But do everything for 20 seconds, high intensity with a 5-10 second break between each exercise. Only after a set do you take your 1-2 minute break. That way you work different muscles each exercise and after a set, you’re whole body can take a break.
      That’s what I’ve been doing all summer. I’ve been training at APC (Kris Letang, Jake Voracek, our ol’ Poo Poo and Petr Svoboda’s clients train there… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecJd_L2aP7M) 3 times weekly (an hour each time) every week since like April. My results are amazing! I’m faster, stronger and have a lot more endurance.

      Hope this helps!

      It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight; It’s about the size of the fight in the dog.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        If you have a running track or football field nearby, or both, do this football sprint program that I got while at Vanier for pre-season conditioning. I still do it decades later, definitely more fun than just going out for a jog.

        1st week, as soon as the fields are dry enough (I don’t have access to a track), run around the field twice for a good warmup, then set up on the endzone line. Sprint to midfield, coast to a jog and jog back to the end zone. Sprint again to midfield, for a total of two 50 m sprints.

        Trot around the field and catch your breath, loosen up some more. Return to the endzone, and now sprint to the opposite endzone for a 100 m sprint.

        Week 2, do 4 50’s, 2 laps around, and then 2 100’s. Week 3, do 6 50’s, 3 laps around, and then 3 100’s. Increase in the same pattern, but not necessarily every week, until early October, when you are doing 12 50’s, 6 laps, and then 6 100’s. Note that between 100’s, you walk back to your start line to recuperate, as opposed to the light jog between 50’s.

        This program gets very hard very quickly. In the first two or three weeks, you may want to do your sprint program twice a week, and go for an easy 5 km run on a third cardio day. As you start to really pile on the sprints as the summer advances, cut down to one sprint session a week and two easy jogs, since the sprints take a toll on your body. At least that’s what I do now, maybe I’m just getting older.

        During the sprints, especially the 100’s, I focus on going 95-99% top speed, maintaining good form. Smooth and steady, thinking about putting my front foot down and kicking the ground behind me. I’ve never pulled a hamstring or groin with this program, probably due to a good pre-sprint warmup (biking to the field helps), and not trying to go 101% and popping something.

        When I’m done I do some running drills as a cool down and stretch, things like running on the toes, on the heels, walking lunges, running sideways bringing feet together, sideways with crossovers (Cariocas), running backwards, running with knees up, goose-stepping, etc.

        This is a great workout if you have a partner, especially if you can find one faster than you, which fortunately for me is not a problem.

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    • twilighthours says:

      Adam, I do a HIIT sort of workout about once/twice a week – similar to the one mike3131 describes. http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance/blast_metabolic_interval_training.

      When I’m finished, I can barely move. It’s an arsekicker.

      I’ve been pretty pleased with the results, especially considering my not great commitment (two kids, one 2 months old). I’d actually prefer to run or bike than lift weights or do a circuit – I find those long distances more fun, but I can’t get out of the house for hours at a time and my basement gym has enough for ms to get the job done.

      I have no idea if I get up into the target heart rate / VO2 max zone, I just try to do a bunch of explosive exercises that also help build general muscle strentgh (like the broad jumps). It’s a great quick workout if you only have 30-40 mins. I suspect I’d get much better results if I had a knowledgeable trainer yelling in my ear during my workouts.

      My sister cut out all her long distance jogging and replaced it with sprints, HIIT, heavy lifting and yoga, and she seems thrilled with the results.

      Thats just my

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      • twilighthours says:

        … Two cents. It sounds like you’re in much better shape than me so I should be the one asking for advice!

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  11. Un Canadien errant says:

    ****Fantasy football alert- New League- New Draft Time*****

    From reading your posts we know you don’t know anything about hockey. Why don’t you do the same with football?

    Draft is on a Friday September 2, 10 pm Eastern, 7 pm Pacific.

    To join, go to http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football

    Create an account if you don’t already have one, then click on ‘Join A League’. Search for this one in Private Leagues by its name or its draft time. Password to join is ‘markov’. No capitals or anything cute, so hopefully that works.

    5 teams signed up, 7 spots left, first come first served.

    League Name Habs Inside Out
    League Type Private
    Draft Date September 02, 2011, 10:00 PM ET
    Draft Style Live Draft
    Member Count 5 of 12 needed to draft – more info
    Password: markov

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  12. Montreal1993 says:

    Sooooooooo how many more days till training camp starts?

  13. slapshot777 says:

    Anybody know if the new glass is installed at the Bell Centre for the upcoming season?

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  14. mike3131 says:

    Interesting…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwGrn3e84mA&feature=related

    It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight; It’s about the size of the fight in the dog.

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    Watching Tigers/Twins baseball and they are discussing Justion Morneau. Apparantly the reason he wears jersey #33 is because his idol growing up was Patrick Roy! Good canadian kid, too bad concussions have slowed down his career.

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    As Andrew alluded to earlier today, Marchand and Boston not close to a deal.
    http://www.csnne.com/08/25/11/Agent-Marchand-deal-no-sure-thing-before/landing_bruins.html?blockID=554158&feedID=3352&awid=8165058012562799335-932
    Interesting this is the same agent Phil Kessel had, we know how that story ended.
    Edit: I really hope Marchand overplays his hand and creates some friction on the team. I know he is an effective player, but just too much of a cheap shot artist and overall a prick!

  17. savethepuck says:

    I can’t believe I wasted my time reading “rating the top 6 forwards”. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that it was not an article written by a journalist, but just the opinions of the typical over zealous “what have you done for me today” Habs fan. Cammy’s playoffs should overshadow his regular season totals. The last 2 years he had major injuries and both years, he took a long time to get his timing back when he came back from those injuries. As for the “get rid of Gomez and I don’t care if we get anything for him”, that’s far from what is best for this team. With regards to ” I don’t care if he gets 70 or 80 points< he will never be forgiven", it sounds more like a child throwing a tantrum.
    Did anyone read "Cammalleri's Campmate “? If so does anyone know why PK was not at the camp? All I've read all summer was about his dedication to training, so I was very surprised to read that for some unknown reason, he was not there.

    That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket's Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin's April, 1952

  18. HabFab says:

    THN’s top ten must games to watch this season! We appear in 3 of them.
    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/41581-THNcom-Top-10-Games-to-watch.html

  19. JD_ says:

    Admittedly, I don’t really know who Dave Dameshek is, but the fact he describes Claude Lemieux as a dirty player suggests to me Dameshek’s not really immersed in the game or, more likely, has been kinda sucked into the revisionist history vortex.

    Lemieux was many, many things, and offputtin’ to a ton of fans. Pat Burns despised him. Pesky, annoyin’, whiny, sneaky, etc… Dirty was, however, not one of the things. He didn’t headhunt nor try to maim players.

    The proof? Ask anybody who thinks Lemieux was a dirty player why they think he was a dirty player. They’ll inevitably point to the Draper incident. I’d wager that will be the answer 99 times out of 100.

    Now, ask them the same question about one of the league’s legitimately dirty players – Samuelsson, Marchment, Cooke – and you’ll get a shoppin’ list of dirty plays for each guy.

    The Draper hit is the exception that proves the rule as far as Lemieux is concerned. People hated his antics and lean on what happened to Draper to label Lemieux as dirty.

    By that yardstick, 90% of the players in the league are dirty, because they all have some incident or other on their resumes. Frankly, Mark Messier, in particular in his later years, was a mouth-breathin’ little POS compared to Claude Lemieux, but you’ll never hear him described that way.

    The most interestin’ part regardin’ what went down with Draper wasn’t even really the hit. When shiznat like that happens, the offendin’ party typically demonstrates remorse and apologizes. This is where Lemieux really got into trouble. He basically told Draper to suck it up and quit whinin’, Lemieux’s way of sayin’ it was not his intent to cave the guy’s face in.

    Imagine for a second Chara told MaxPac to suck it up and quit whinin’. You get the picture.

    Clearly, bad PR.

    There’ll never be a widespread consensus on Claude Lemieux. Way too controversial. Far as I’m concerned, he was epic. He was a game-changer for every team he laced up for – San Jose mid-life crisis, excepted – was the penultimate playoff performer and, for a guy who didn’t exactly otherwise stand out as one of the league’s stars, took home a Conn Smythe.

    Love him or hate him, whatever.

    But dirty? Get real.

    • twilighthours says:

      I liken Lemieux to Brad Marchand. And there are a lot of people who consider Marchand dirty.

      I consider him more of a rat, myself.

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  20. SeriousFan09 says:

    I just found out how terrible a cable provider Rogers is. TSN only available on Standard Def if you pay at least 50$ a month and you can’t get it on HD. Can’t order RDS. I can’t order NHL Centre Ice by itself.

    They are just spitting in the face of anyone who lives in an apartment (my building has a no satellite dish policy). I’m just going to upgrade my net service to a super-bandwidth level and get NHL GameCenter again.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
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    • If you have a PS3 you can now stream gamecenter on your tv. I’m not sure how well it works because I’ve never used it but if you have a bigger screen it’s worth a shot.

    • Timo says:

      Really? I used to have RDS (standard) when I had Rogers during my
      days in Ottawa. Didn’t know they dropped it. What a bunch of leaf homers.

      • Gerry H says:

        I still get RDS (HD) in Ottawa, though I’d have to upgrade my package to get TSN HD (regular def is part of the basic package here). I don’t bother upgrading because I prefer Houde and the gang, in any event.

    • Mike D says:

      Robert, I have a way around that if you decide to stick with Rogers.

      I call them every October and tell/remind them that Bell includes RDS with their HD (sports or premium) package and ask them to match it. Every year they credit me the value of the Specialty package from Oct. til July that includes RDS in HD on my next bill (approx. $7 x 9 months = $63) and just charge me for the package until I cancel when the Habs are done. Basically I get RDS HD for free every year. This year will be the 3rd year I do this.

      – Honestly yours

  21. A few mentions of Darcy Tucker today, reminds me of a conversation I had with some friends on Thursday. Have to post this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khywEqMgtUI

  22. SeriousFan09 says:

    As Finnish Hockey Reporter Risto Puckarinen notes in his feed today, the incomparable Valeri Kharlamov, regarded as the greatest Russian player ever died 30 years ago today in a car accident, he was 33.

    His #17 is retired from being used for the Russian National Team. #17 is also retired by CSKA Moscow,his regular-season club. Ilya Kovalchuk wears his number in tribute, Malkin wears the reverse 71 in similar fashion. Until 2010 with Teemu Selanne’s 5th Olympic appearance, he had held a 30-year record for career points in Olympic Hockey. He and Vladislav Tretiak are the only two players to be inducted into the HOF without ever playing in the NHL.

    The Kharlamov Trophy, established for the 2002-2003 season by the Russian publication Sovetsky Sport and is annually given to Russian player who is voted to be the best in the NHL by his Russian peers each season.

    The Kontinental Hockey League named a division after him. The primary trophy of the MHL Junior league is the Kharlamov Cup as well.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  23. punkster says:

    Absolutely off topic. Clifford Brown at 25 years old. The world lost a great talent that night.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfDErvxNf7U

    I’m hitting the golf course before it gets washed out. Peace out!

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

      Nicely done. I think Bop is my thing, but haven’t taken the time to dig much deeper than Miles.

      ____________________________________________________
      They lost me 2 quarts of rum, better make it up next year with a cup!

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      Thanks for this … had never heard of Clifford Brown before. I am a big James Carter fan (different instrument: sax) and clearly JC has learned from Brown.

  24. Mike D says:

    Not sure if anyone noticed (or cared for that matter), but Chris Drury retired from hockey last week.

    EDIT: Sorry if this was already brought up but I was away on holidays and didn’t see this until now.

    – Honestly yours

  25. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lots of appreciative chatter for 2011 5th round pick Darren Dietz so far at his CHL training camp. Add up Dumont in ’09, Gallagher in ’10, Timmins and his staff have a knack with the 5th round of the draft it seems. And before we start knocking 1sts, Pacioretty, Mcdonagh(A Ranger but he got it Right) , Leblanc, Tinordi and now Beaulieu. Draft is working for us very well right now.

    • HardHabits says:

      It’s about time too. Still to soon to count our chickens before these eggs have hatched.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      I’m intrigued by Dietz. He put up decent numbers last year, and he was young. He has some size, a mean streak and is now apparently really working on his offensive game.

      Our depth on defense going forward looks really solid.

    • HabFab says:

      Robert, remember you not being so enamored with our draft picks at the draft ;)
      However drafting is a crap-shot of sorts and the results are undetermined for some time. My personal observation is that you have put so much into studying prospects (which we all appreciate) that you have reached semi-pro level and are challenging the pro’s thought process without being one. But WTF do I know! :)

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Still not really a fan of the Didier, Archambeault, Nygren or Sullivan picks. I liked Beaulieu after giving it thought and warmed up to the low-risk, high-reward of Pribyl and Dietz has done nothing but get good marks this summer when I look for details on him. Sullivan I know, 7th-rounder but I always say go for broke and pick out of Europe that late, try a Russian kid, chances are he’s 3x more talented even if it’s 3x less likely he’ll sign a deal with you.

        I’m still years from competing with the pros on their ability to assess these kids though, thanks for the compliment but that’s over my head.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          I’m also unsure of Didier and Archambault. In regards to Sullivan being picked 7th, I have read in some places that he was one of the top skaters in the draft. If you can get potentially the best skater in the 7th round, I think that’s a decent pick.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            Yes but Tom Pyatt is a fantastic skater too, problem is he can’t shoot a puck to save his life.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

          • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

            SeriousFan:

            I hear you on the Pyatt reference. I don’t know much more about Sullivan. I think he probably has more offensive upside than Pyatt. I seem to remember reading somewhere that Sullivan could be converted to forward.

            And in any case, if your 7th round pick ends up in the NHL, you’ve done well. Tom Pyatt was a 4th round pick who is a very good penalty-killer. Even if Sullivan were just THAT, it would be a pretty good value for the 7th round.

          • Mark C says:

            That was my impression of Sullivan too. Central Scouting ranked him 66th in their mid-term rankings and then 75th in the final N.A. skater rankings. He’s going to a great US High School program and then is going to Yale in 2012. Love this pick in the 7th round.

            “His skating and mobility is something that really jumps out at you,” said a scout with an Eastern Conference NHL team recently when queried about Sullivan. “When you’re looking at defensemen who maybe don’t have that ideal size you’re looking for, they’ve really got to have the mobility, and he definitely does.”

            http://kirkscall.hockeyjournal.com/tag/colin-sullivan/

        • Mark C says:

          Why are you down on the Nygren pick? Just because he’s an overager, or his sample size of good production is too small.

          I’m not sure what to make of it myself, however if his production was legit, he just might be a steal in the 4th round.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            Just think the team could have saved the contract they used on say, Woywitka for him and gotten it done a while ago. Rather they had taken a guy just draft-eligible instead.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

          • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

            SeriousFan:

            Maybe the Habs brass felt that there was interest from other organizations for Nygren in the draft. Maybe they wanted to control his rights for awhile before having to sign him, which would allow him to develop more in the Elitserien.

            Whatever the reason, I am glad we picked him, because he seems to be a good offensive defenseman who has put up serious numbers in a very good men’s league. From the clips I’ve seen of him, he also seems to have a very accurate and quick release on his shot.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    Tampa playing Roloson in to the ground potentially with no good 1A 1B setup and their D being no stronger (When MAB is a regular…) Does not scream 6th in the Conference to me. Our D and goaltending has a hideous edge over theirs.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree Serious, just imagine if the Habs were going into a season with Roloson at this age with no real tangible backkup or prospect in the pipeline. THere would be complete panic.

    • Chris says:

      Our D supposedly had a hideous advantage over that of the Bruins too, but that didn’t stop the Bruins from putting up an amazing defensive effort.

      And while it is popular to malign the Lightning D, are they really THAT bad?

      Brewer, Hedman, Kubina and Ohlund are not a terrible top-4 by any stretch of the imagination.

      Bergeron gives them a PP shooter, Brett Clark was solid last season and they added some depth in Bruno Gervais and Matt Gilroy.

      • Mark C says:

        If Ohlund is in our top-4, that is not good news (if you don’t think Gorges or Gill are top-4 types then clearly Ohlund isn’t either). He had 5 points last year. Kubina’s production is also falling like a stone; he had a 79-4-19 line last season. Not sure 4 goals and 29 points out of 1/2 of the top-4 is very good.

        There is next to zero offense from that top-4. Hedman had 3 goals and 26 points. Brewer had 9 goals and 16 points. The overall lack of offense from the blue really puts pressure on the likes of Stamkos and St. Louis to carry to offense. If one of those two gets injured long-term Tampa is in deep trouble.

        For prospective: In Markov’s last full season, he came within 7 points of equaling Tampa’s top-4 in total points (counting Brewer’s points with the Blues).

        • Chris says:

          Tampa doesn’t need that much scoring from their defencemen…they finished 7th in the league last year in that regard despite the low numbers you mentioned.

          Some teams need a lot of offence from their blue line, others don’t. Chara gave the Bruins 44 points and Seidenberg chipped in 32 points. But after that, it was a free-fall. The next highest scoring defenceman was Boychuk with 16 points.

          Our top-4 going into the season are Markov-Gorges, Subban-Gill in all likelihood. I think it is at least debatable whether that top-4 is so much better than the top-4 of Brewer-Kubina, Hedman-Ohlund.

          Montreal probably will get a bit more offence from their blue line, but that has to make up for a significant drop-off up front. Plekanec would arguably be their 4th best forward behind Lecavalier, St. Louis and Stamkos.

          • Mark C says:

            They didn’t need the scoring from the defense last year (might have helped in game 7), because two players scored 76 goals, a ridiculous 32% of the team’s total. My point is, if something happens to one of Stamkos or St. Louis, the lack of blueline scoring would quickly become an issue. This is sort of the same caveat that applies to Price and to a lesser degree Plex.

            Boston has much more forward depth than Tampa, an all-world goalie, and Chara and Seidenberg still almost had the same amount of points as Tampa’s top-4.

            Assuming Markov and Gorges are healthy, I think Montreal’s top-4 is much better than Tampa’s. If Markov and Subban played on Tampa, would they not be their two best defensemen? Of course. Gill and Gorges are at worst roughly as valuable has Brewer and Ohlund.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            If Markov stays healthy then I think our top 4 is better than theirs.

            They are also suspect in goal and, after their top 3 forwards, a bit thin up front.

            Their biggest problem is money. They came within one game of the finals last year but rather than add to their roster they lost some pieces.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Two of our best were out of the lineup though for most of the year and than Wiz jammed his hand in the post-season and that made it really ugly for us.

        If that was our D, people would love Hedman but dump on PG for not doing anything to address the future. None of the other guys are younger than 32 and it’s not like they’ve shown they are keeping up with their best seasons as they age. Gervais and Gilroy are not what I would call defensive depth either and MAB is MAB, a PP goal here, a GA there, Sheldon Souray without size or the temper.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • Chris says:

          Tampa Bay has a window of opportunity right now. St. Louis and Lecavalier will begin to decline soon, so they’ve got to go for it. Roloson and the old defence corps make sense from that perspective. They can start to rebuild around Stamkos and Hedman in 2-3 years.

      • Timo says:

        Umm… helloooo!!! MAB?! How can a person claim he/she knows hockey and slug TB’s D when it has MAB? Seriously.

  27. Ian Cobb says:

    2011 FAN SUMMIT INFORMATION NOV. 18,19,20

    I need firm Summit event people numbers please, from everyone. So that the proper reservations can be made. Leave your name and numbers per event.

    Anyone can come, season ticket holders or even people that are not going to the game but would like to participate in some of our events. Please call me at 613-968-9807 or e-mail me at cobb(my first name)grant@yahoo.ca with how many for each event. ASAP

    For Hurley’s Pub both Friday eve and Saturday night after the game, it is already reserved. No need of numbers, everyone can just show up saying you are with HIO. Name tags will be given out.

    1st– Saturday breakfast Chez Cora’s 8:30am. 15% discount for everyone.

    2nd–Hall of Fame Tour with Catherine Richard,(the Rockets Grandaughter) 10:30am.

    2nd- (A) Bell Center Tour after the Hall of Fame tour. If you want to go on this tour, you will have to purchase a $5 ticket there.

    3rd–Baton Rouge rest. Children’s Foundation Raffle 3pm and pre game meal with special guests. This is one event you do not want to miss folks.

  28. HabFab says:

    The Fantasy Focus on Carey has him winning 86 points in 68 games. All we have to do is have Budaj play .500 in his 14 games and we have 100 points. Yeah!

  29. DearyLeary says:

    Just a e-editors note for Red… the Rome hit on Horton was late, and dangerous, no doubt. But from the blind side it was not.

  30. DearyLeary says:

    The Star is incorrect (there’s a switch, eh?); if we’re going to have three point games, make all games count for three. It’s not rocket science. If you win in regular time it should be three points, two for OT/shootout win, and one for an OT/shootout loss.

    Having 3 points handed out for some games, and only 2 for others makes zero sense.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree, it is the most simplest of things, yet currently the NHL is essentially saying some games are of more value than others by having 3 points awarded for any extra time but only 2points for games in regulation. Perhaps Mr. Bettman never took basic arithmetic in school.

  31. centre hice says:

    The Habs top 6 forwards #1 HAS TO BE PLEKANEC. I don’t know how anyone could possibly see that differently.

    He is not only our best forward offensively, but defensively as well. If there was one single player that the Habs can’t afford to loose (other than Carey Price) it’s Plekanec.

    • DearyLeary says:

      Erik Cole doesn’t make the cut either? I don’t like this list.

    • neumann103 says:

      +2

      I don’t know whose sister Plekanec abandoned at the altar to get such bizarre disrespect.

      I don’t know how many times I have seen this, whether it is referring to him as MTL’s #2 Center or whatever (behind Gomez?????)

      Anyhow, there really are only 3 or 4 players that the Habs should consider immovable objects and Pleks is the only forward in the bunch.

      The correct list of Habs top 6 forwards (not that i expect these to be the lines, but you get it) are , in order

      Tomas Plekanec
      Mike Cammalleri
      Brian Gionta
      Eric Cole
      and any two of Max Pacioretty, Andrei Kostitsyn and Lars Eller depending on injury, regression or progress as applicable

      “Et le but!”

      • Duracell3 says:

        I’ve never understood this either, Plekanec has been, without debate, our #1 centre since even before Gomez got here (exception: Koivu-Kovalev-Tanguay line at the end of the year). The instant someone can’t recognize how much better Plekanec is to Gomez, they have zero credibility to me.

  32. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay not trying to pick on Red but I don’t get the following.

    Montreal loses (Chose too I would add), The Wiz, The Hammer, and Halpern. (Pouliot as well but will get to him later)

    Boston loses Recchi, Ryder, Kaberle.

    Red says we lost alot with these players, the innuendo being we shouldn’t have lost them or that they will be very hard to replace. But as it pertains to the Bruins he says losing these players is really nothing lost.

    I beg to differ, Dr. Recchi was the Bruins 5th highest point getter in regular season and a key contributor in their playoffs and whether we like him or not provided those intangibles which are often discussed. Ryder gave their third line a goal scorer, and not only did he score big goals in the playoffs but none of us will forget his save in the crease against us(Which caused Bob Cole to have seizures due to his excitement). Kaberle is a different animal, but he did provide Boston a defenceman capable of carrying the puck out of their zone. While I think he is wildly overrated as the playoffs continued he began to provide more and more stability to the Boston defence from a puck carrying perspective.

    I don’t dispute a Dman for us has to step up and replace Hammer and Wiz, thus we have Gorges, Markov and Yemelin. We do need to replace Halpern this is still undecided. As for Mr. Pouliot, I would suggest Eric Cole more than satisfies his loss.

    What has Boston picked up? Well Corvo is their answer to Kaberle, I am guessing Seguin will be counted on to replace Recchi/Ryder. Talent wise he can do it, but will he provide the leadership they lose in Recchi?

    • HabFab says:

      Red still won’t acknowledge PK. So yes, our defense would be weaker in his eyes!

    • Chris says:

      You are right that Boston has suffered losses. But addressing some of your points:

      Recchi and Ryder are big losses to the Bruins. Recchi was their second line winger who meshed well with Bergeron and Marchand, while Ryder gave them some pop on the third line and as a second wave PP guy.

      They are banking on that Peverley can replace Recchi on the second line, Seguin can replace Peverley on the third line and Pouliot can replace Ryder on the third line. Corvo is slotted into Kaberle’s spot, and they are hoping for continued development from Steven Kampfer, who they are high on.

      In terms of leadership, the Bruins have plenty: Chara, Thomas, Bergeron (already 7 seasons under his belt), Thornton and Kelly all have plenty of experience. The whole team now has the experience of winning the Stanley Cup.

      Boston relies on offensive depth, great goaltending and the privilege of featuring one of the top-3 defencemen in the game. They lost a little in the way of offensive depth, and are banking on Pouliot and Seguin to step up. It is a roll of the dice, but I don’t think their style of play is going to be significantly altered by the losses of Recchi and Ryder.

      Markov is an absolute improvement over Hamrlik if he’s back to 100%. Gorges is an upgrade on Sopel if he’s back to 100%, and it is not even close.

      But the Habs have not addressed the loss of Wisniewski. They are hoping that one of Yemelin or Weber or Woywitka can step into that void, but if we’re being honest only Weber has the appropriate skillset and he hasn’t proven yet that he can play 20 minutes per game.

      Cole, in all likelihood, replaces Kostitsyn who will be downgraded to the third line in place of Pouliot. On paper, that is a clear cut win from Montreal. But if AK46’s summer musings lead into a fall of discontent, he will be dumped for a song in no time. Montreal’s management has little patience for that type of behaviour.

      • HabFab says:

        I think the logic is that Markov replaces Wisniewski, Gorges replaces Hamrlik and Weber / Yemelin replaces Sopel / Picard / Mara.

        • Chris says:

          The problem I have with that logic is that Gorges has zero offensive game. Replacing Hamrlik’s 35 points is asking the impossible from Gorges.

          Hamrlik and Gorges play different roles: Gorges is a shut-down defenceman and penalty killer while Hamrlik was the point-man on the second PP wave and a two-way top-4 defenceman.

          Similarly, Markov was routinely asked to go against the other teams’ top lines, played on the PK and first wave PP. Wisniewski filled in for Markov on the PP, but while he played heavy even-strength minutes he was not used as a matchup defenceman by Jacques Martin and was used on the PK somewhat sparingly.

          • HabFab says:

            Good points all as we are comparing apricots to peaches, however my point that if we are short a “Wisniewski” level talent in our total then we are indeed worse on defense then last season. Believe Weber will compensate for Gorges offensive short comings versus Hamrlik.
            Am very curious to see how Diaz fits in, as the Swiss hockey people say he is more developed then Weber at this point.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Chris, my point was not that they don’t have people in place whom they hope replace these players. It was directed at the specific comment of Montreal and Boston losing players and the valuation Red had of those players. To dismiss the loss of Ryder, Recchi and Kaberle as nothing lost is ridiculous. I agree they have players slotted in to hopefully replace. Just as we hope our players slotted to replace Wiz, Hammer, Halpern and PooPoo do a good job Boston has to hope their players do the same. Many teams have thought that simply moving players up from the 3rd line to 2nd will succeed, but this doesn’t always work. For example, look at Kris Versteeg. He was extremely effective for Chicago on a deep team while playing 3rd line, moving him to 1st or 2nd in Toronto was a failure and he never really clicked on the higher lines in Philly either.

        3rd line is often a player who appears talented enough to play 2nd but needs the weaker competition from other 3rd lines to be effective.

        • Chris says:

          In Peverley’s case, he was a first line player in Atlanta that was on the third line in Boston due to their incredible depth. He has shown that he can compete on the top line already.

          In his case, the opposite effect happened. He was a 50-60 point guy in Atlanta on the top line, but didn’t find his groove in Boston until the playoffs. Playing with better linemates could make him better.

          Your overall point is valid, though: the Bruins are rolling the dice that their significant losses can be mitigated by developing their youngsters and the addition of Pouliot. We’ll see this season how that roll of the dice works out for them.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I guess based on your comments I am to assume that you agree with Red then that losing Recchi, Ryder and Kaberle was nothing lost.

          • Chris says:

            No, I’ve said numerous times that Ryder and Recchi are significant losses for the Bruins. Kaberle was less of a loss.

            I also think that Montreal suffered significant losses in Hamrlik and Wisniewski, with Pouliot and Halpern not so significant.

            Where we perhaps differ is that I think Boston is better positioned to weather their losses. I do believe Seguin will take a massive step forward…he was a VERY good player in the OHL, but probably came up too early. Pouliot will not approach Ryder’s numbers, but he won’t have to with the Bruins getting a full season from Peverley and Kelly. And Corvo, while a downgrade, should fill in admirably for Kaberley.

            I think Markov makes the Habs MUCH better. I think our top-3 are in good shape (Markov, Subban, Gorges). But I thought Gill was not terribly good in the regular season 5 vs. 5, and he’s a year older and slower. Spacek is done. I like Weber, but he’s a question mark over a whole season. And none of us know what we’ve got in Yemelin. Lots of question marks…high-risk, high-reward.

  33. centre hice says:

    In the interview with Yemelin, the last question is if he is going to be willing to fight in the NHL because a couple of years ago he suffered a broken face in a fight in the KHL.

    His answer, roughly, is that he won’t go searching for any fights but whatever happens happens and that he doesn’t want to suffer that kind of injury again.

    I can’t wait to see Yemelin play for the Habs.

  34. G-Man says:

    Rating the Top 6 Forwards is pretty much NOT worth reading. Pac as #2 on the list? Really?

    • habaddict_andy says:

      This maybe shows how power forwards are over rated. I love pacioretty but he is not a #2 in that list. In skill set top 3 has to be Plekanec, Cammalleri and Gionta. Even Kostitsyn should come very close fourth. What Pacioretty and Cole bring is the willingness to get to dirty areas. It depends what is the criteria on how to rate the top 6 that may differ in each individual.

      Go! Hockey! Go!

  35. 24 Cups says:

    The Player You Most Love To Hate

    “Where to begin?

    The well of hate in my heart runs deep. Mark Messier is the dirtiest legend in sports history since Ty Cobb laced up his sharpened spikes. DC’s Twin Towers of Filth, Dale Hunter and Dino Ciccarelli, were more vile — and were together longer — than Jon & Kate.

    But let’s go with Claude Lemieux, a dirty creep who should’ve been required to wear ‘Claude L’ on his nameplate so as not to tarnish what ‘Lemieux’ means (in French, “the best”; and in NHL history, also “the best”).

    Or maybe it’s the Flyers. All of them. Especially you, Jagr. And Berube. And Hartnell. And Carcillo. And Hextall. And Poulin. I’ll stop there. But I could go on. And on. And on.”

    (Dave Dameshek)

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Hockey-Guilty-Pleasures-Dave-Dameshek-NFL-com?urn=nhl-wp11241#remaining-content

    • G-Man says:

      Yeah, Lemieux really was horrible with all those playoff goals and intensity. More terrible than Hunter? More terrible than Chara?

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Don’t forget about Claude Lemieux’s colorado career when he brutally cheap shot hit Draper into the boards.

      • Dust says:

        Marchand reminds me a ton of Claude Lemieux. An annoying pest who scored huge goals in the playoffs. Many people may disagree but i would take him on the habs any day

      • Chris says:

        Dameshek didn’t say he was a terrible player…just that he was somebody worth hating.

        And yes, he was more terrible than Chara, but pretty much on par with Hunter. Lemieux was the king of the drive-by chirping that Lapierre later perfected.

        And let’s not forget that he perfected the dead-mackeral-manoever long before Mike Ribeiro ever dreamed of it, to the point that Montreal’s training staff often wouldn’t go out and check on him anymore.

    • centre hice says:

      For everything Claude Lemieux was, I’ll always remember when he won the Conn Smyth and tears were rolling down his face.

    • Marc10 says:

      Claude Lemieux. Sorry.

      No genuine Habs fan could hate him, if only for his masterpiece… the 86 playoffs.

      Cheap shot artist. Sure. Diver. Sure. Also easily one of the best playoff performers. Not quite the Rocket or Roy – he didn’t have their talent… but if you’re in the show and you needed a goal to get it done, you’d want Claude there. That guy was incredible in the post season… and yeah, he would do absolutely anything to win.

      Ulf Samuelsson. Now that’s a player worth hating.
      Eric Lindros (and his mom). Worth hating.
      Bobby Clark or all of the 75-76 Flyers (with the possible exception of Leach and Parent). Worth hating.
      Kenny Linseman. Mike Milbury. Worth hating.
      Dale Hunter. Absolutely worth hating (especially as a Nordique)

      And of course Lucic and Chara. Oh yeah. Worth hating.

      • Chris says:

        Claude Lemieux is part of my unholy sextet of Habs that I couldn’t stand, even while they were Habs:

        Claude Lemieux
        Gary Leeman (just because he offended me for wearing the #26 and then taking a spearing major very soon after joining the Habs)
        Jose Theodore
        Darcy Tucker
        Mike Ribeiro
        Scott Gomez

        • Marc10 says:

          Theodore… The guy carried us on his back and stood on his head so we could knock off Big Joe and the Bruins. That makes no sense.

          I could see arguments for the other guys, but Theo… Seriously… Makes no sense.

          “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
          Andy Warhol

          Go PK Go!

          • Chris says:

            There are tons of great hockey players that I didn’t like. Theodore was a great player, but I just couldn’t stand his attitude for some reason.

            I freely admit that it was weird. But I never liked the guy.

        • habsguy says:

          how or why would anyone hate Theo, and I dont hate Gomer either, it isn’t his fault he gets paid so much !!!
          It’s Milbury and Clark for me !!!!!!!!!!

    • Chris says:

      My votes:

      Current players

      Colby Armstrong: king of the head-shot
      Chris Pronger: has to be the least sportsmanlike player in the league
      Matt Cooke: just out of principle
      Milan Lucic: somehow has earned a reputation for toughness while sucker-punching anybody he can
      Scott Gomez: I disliked him in New Jersey, despised him in New York and now that he’s in Montreal I spend most of my time in an apoplectic state that he is wearing #11, a number I have long associated with classy players like Koivu, Muller and Walter.

      Retired players

      Ken Linseman: you don’t earn the moniker “The Rat” for nothing
      Ron Hextall
      Darcy Tucker: I DESPISED his after the whistle nonsense

  36. 24 Cups says:

    I’m not sure if it was God’s doing, but it’s great to see that Montreal finally has some building blocks in place. No team has ever won a Cup without a few franchise players to lead the way. Price and Subban certainly qualify as far as I’m concerned.

    I would have included Markov on the list but his two major injuries make him a question mark at the present moment.

    It would be great to have a forward as a 3rd building block but I can’t see that happening anytime soon. It’s going to be more of a strength in numbers scenario.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Yes 24 been awhile since we had two legit. stars at their position to build around. I would think off top of my head not since we had a young Chelios and Patrick since we had top Dman and Goalie at same time just starting their careers.

    • G-Man says:

      Funny how management gets all the credit when it comes to failing, but none when they do things right. God, indeed.

      • Marc10 says:

        +1

        They deserve props for drafting Max Pac and I think we’ll find the Eller-Halak swap was a winner when it’s all said and done.

        “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
        Andy Warhol

        Go PK Go!

  37. DearyLeary says:

    3 points are handed out in the OT/SO. 2 points are handed out for a regulation win. In the old days a tie was worth 1 point for each team (2pts total, in case people failed at math).

    NHL games now no longer have a standard worth, it fluctuates and it artificially inflates point totals for bad teams; it makes false races for playoff spots. If we want three point OTs there should be three points up for grabs during regulation too.

    2 points for a game or 3. The NHL needs to make up its mind.

  38. bleedhabs81 says:

    Wait, what?

    Before I give you the +1 on this, I am going to check the math.

    1 + 2 = one, two, THREE!!

    Ok, I have to check my work…. (carry the 1, approach the limit of infinite…., reiman sum…. sin theta/cos theta…)

    Yup! There is indeed games that are worth a total of 3 points.

    Now, for doing the math I am going to give you…

    +1, +1, +1 For a total of +3 post

    (geeze, this math stuff is easy….. I should be an engineer or something)


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