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In consultation with the Hockey Inside/Out advisory board of mental health professionals, we have determined the website’s far-flung community must begin to prepare themselves for a grim event that may plunge us all into a deep depression that will last all summer:

The Boston Bruins might win the Stanley Cup.

Yes, Vancouver will be favoured.

The Canucks are Canada’s team, and everyone who dislikes the Bruins – i.e. everyone outside the 617 area code – will be rooting for them when the Cup final begins in Vancouver on Wednesday.

On paper, the Canucks are the better team.

But the final won’t be played on paper.

One stat to get your anxiety level boosted early:

In three lifetime starts against the Canucks, Tim Thomas has allowed three goals.  Thomas has stopped 99 per cent of the shots he’s face.

And Milan Lucic is going home.

Bruins punch ticket to the Big Dance

Great TB season comes up short

Red Fisher likes the Canucks

Saturday EEEEE-mail

Red’s Notebook

Average Vancouver ticket price for the final: $924

• Pat Hickey on the NHL’s move to Winnipeg


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  2. shuttle-lemaire-lafleur says:

    Canucks in 5, maybe 6…

  3. RH says:

    Hockey isn’t over yet????

  4. HUDSONHAB says:

    I don’t want the Bruins to win……please………
    Other than the Leafs, there is no other team I least want to win the cup.
    Help us all Vancouver, help us all.


  5. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Were there only enough room on the team for ONE of Darche, Moen, and Pouliot I’m not sure whom I’d keep.

    P.S. throw Nigel Dawes in there too.

    * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

    • D Mex says:

      Darche and Moen understand ‘ work ethic ‘ : I say keep ’em both.

      Pouliot can go – haven’t seen enough of Dawes to comment.

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        I’ll assume that means you’d drop Tom Pyatt.

        • D Mex says:

          Any special reason for excluding Max Pac from your list of LH wingers ? My assumption is that he will be be back @ 100% next season – he has all the tools.

          Moen plays with heart, ditto Darche – no rush to let either one of them go unless a similarly-priced yet significant upgrade is available.

          Lose Pouliot and go after Laich – the entire group just got better, plus it’s affordable …

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

          • Sean Bonjovi says:

            I think Max Pac has a job. I was just wondering which on the fringe players people thought were the best.

            * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

          • mike3131 says:

            I think that you guys are overrating Moen. It’s not his fault, but I think his play declined since we signed him. Yes, he still plays with heart, is a great PK guy, blocks shots, brings playoff experience but his physical play has declined tremendously. Again it isn’t his fault that he was placed on the 2nd line and expected to revive Gomez and Gionta (he is a solid 4th liner at best). I think that him having played in the top six is the main cause for his declined physical play.
            I don’t know about you, but last year (2009-10) he would finish his checks by trying to put people through the glass. However, this year, I noticed that he would skate away from opponents once the puck moved.
            We brought him in to play physical. Besides, he’s one of our biggest and toughest forwards. I just think he hasn’t been playing as physical as he should be. If we keep him, I just hope he stays on the 4th line and plays more aggressively.
            And in the end, he is a $1.5 M cap hit.

        • D Mex says:

          Pyatt’s a center – different discussion.

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

      • Mike D says:

        Darche and Moen definitely are the best guys in that list in terms of work ethic. If I had to choose between the two of them I’d give the edge to Darche. Talk about a guy that bleeds the bleu, blance, et rouge.

        – Honestly yours

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Dawes may only be a career AHL’r at this point – albeit a significantly skilled linemate for upcoming Habs (Palushaj).

      Darche is good fit as an inexpensive 13th forward.

      Pouliot will be signed and dealt for scraps.

      Moen is the guy you must keep – he is signed for the upcoming season as a very expensive 4th line forward.

      • Mike D says:

        He’s also a great penalty killer and the closest thing he have to an enforcer (White too but he’s still on the cusp). 1.5mil really ain’t that bad, but I agree it could be a bit better.

        – Honestly yours

  6. otter649 says:

    The movie “The Rocket” is now on The CBC….

  7. JohnBellyful says:

    I think I’ve cracked the code for getting back to the Stanley Cup final. We all know the Canadien connection on both teams. Julien, Ryder, Jarvis, Vigneault, Lapierre, Higgins.
    The answer to our woes is staring us right in the face. WE need ex-Habs. How many do we have now. None. (Although there are a few players we’d gladly turn into ex-Habs. Okay, Muller. But he’s on his way out.). How can a team expect to win the Stanley Cup without an ex-Hab on the club? (Huet’s contribution to the Hawks’ success last season has never been fully appreciated; people seem to have forgotten the old saying, absence makes a team do wonders).
    So, am I suggesting the Canadiens make deals for the return of Ribeiro, Sergei K, Latendresse, etc? Not at all, my sights are higher: We need an ex-Hab coach.
    No, not Carbonneau, because he hasn’t been a head coach for another team. Not Tremblay, he was a headcase coach. Not Therrien – there has to be standards. Not Demers, he’s a senator and we know that means the end of a working life as we know it. Not Perron, he’s in broadcasting, and we’ve seen what that medium does to ex-coaches. And Lemaire’s retired, until Jersey issues a recall notice.
    No, the only solution is to fire Martin – and hire him back 24 hours later. Should be more than enough time for JM to experience an epiphany and return to the coaching ranks a changed man. A man who recognizes he’s been given a second chance, a chance to do things differently. No more system, at least a system we’ve come to recognize all too well. No more 1-3-1-!!!, maybe 1-1-1-1-1-!!!!, or 4-1-0-WHAT’S GOIN’ ON HERE??, or my favourite, 2² -2² -2²
    And while Martin makes over the Canadiens in a way that makes them less susceptible to injury, we can all wait for the ex-Devil effect to kick in and seal the deal for another Stanley Cup parade in Montreal

    • hansolo says:


      LOL, so should we trade Gomez and trade back for him, too? Will be a changed man?

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Could be tricky trying to get another club to take him on, even if only temporarily, and it would likely involve the use of drugs and escort services, but the payoff would be enormous. Gomez would come back to the Habs intent on changing his legacy and the club would benefit doubly from the ex-Devil, ex-Hab effect.
        It goes without saying that restoring the glory days of Montreal requires a certain EX-cellence.

    • punkster says:

      Drugs and escort services? Say, I’d like to volunteer for that assignment JB. I mean we can’t be too careful when it comes to product testing and verification. With my background in the music business and in the Marketing and Product Management fields of other industries I think I’m just the man for the job.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • JohnBellyful says:

        I love ya like a brother, Pun’, but this assignment requires a certain delicate touch — no, not that kind of touch — to pull it off — geez, willya get your mind out of the gutter.
        Then again, it probably wouldn’t hurt to have a trial run, just to see if such a deal could be made. Okay, here’s the deal. If you can get someone to take Spacek off our hands, I’ll let you step up and tackle Operation Gomez Uninstall. Don’t disappoint. It cost me a pretty penny to book the tuba-playing Bulski sisters. And go easy on the Excedrin 3.

  8. Propwash says:

    Anybody know if the finals will be liveblogged?

  9. Willy the bum says:

    Wednesday night, it’s former Habs coach vs. former Habs coach.

    Julien and Vigneault have learned well in coaching skills since then.

    And Guy Boucher came so close… not bad for a rookie NHL coach.

    Man, this summer is long…. 🙁

  10. ManApart says:

    The Boston Bruins and Timmy Thomas have shown all of you what they are made of, making the Finals for the first time in 20 years. They’ve proven a lot of you guys wrong, in showing that their tough style and deep lineup can get it done. Those of you silly enough to doubt Thomas before the playoffs have been fed some serious crow. Don’t worry my crushed friends, they have little chance of beating the Canucks, if that will make you feel any better.

    Congrats to TBay and their new team. Going from missing the playoffs 3 straight years to one game away from the Finals, in one season, is a hell of an accomplishment. With teams like Boston who will get better in the coming years and Tbay, a real contender after they make a few improvements, Montreal will be in real tough to make any kind of noise in the near future.

    • G-Man says:

      You must be so happy. Have fun cheering on every other team besides the Habs.

      • ManApart says:

        How can I cheer for the Habs? They are on the golf course. I was cheering for them last month. I was also cheering for the Bolts and am definately cheering for the ‘Nucks. I really like that team. Just saying, you have to give it to the Bruins and Thomas. It’s pretty damn hard to get to the finals.

    • ed lopaz says:


      any NHL franchise that has Price in net, Subban on the back end, and Max Pac up front,

      all breaking in together,

      will be a solid franchise for the next 10 years.


      these are 3 outstanding YOUNG players.

      every time you doubt the Habs, you should think how many teams would love to take any of those three studs.

      Habs have all 3 in the bank

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

      • ManApart says:

        I agree, Subban will easily be a top 10 defenseman for years to come, Patches (my favourite Hab) looks like he will be a very good power forward, although we don’t exactly know if he will be good or great. Price looks like he will be a top goalie in the league. The jury is still out on the guy though. Will he be just good or will he be great?

        These are all positives going forward, but if you think that’s enough, then you are very much mistaken. Most teams have players like the 3 mentioned above. It’s a start, but only that.

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          Ed never said he thought having Price, Subban and Pacioretty was enough. He said having all three will allow you to remain competitive for a decade. How good the team is depends on the other pieces of the puzzle.

          I’m not sure how you can say “most teams have players like the 3 mentioned above” or how you can say that Price is merely good right now.

          At age 23, Carey Price set a record for games played in a single-season for the team that has undoubtedly had the most elite goaltenders in history. Plante, Dryden and Roy never did what Price did last year. He not only set a record for games played, he played consistently at an elite level throughout the season. He may not have won the series against Boston, but he certainly maintained his elite play from the regular season. That’s more than just good.

          P.K. Subban scored 14 goals in his rookie season. That put him in a tie for 6th among ALL defensemen in the NHL. 9 of those came on the power play, which led the league. He also averaged 22:16 a game on the season, and in the playoffs, he averaged 28:33, which places him 2nd among defensemen in the playoffs, ahead of Chara, Weber, Doughty and Keith. And most of those minutes were played against the opposing team’s best forwards. Tell me again how most teams have a player like P.K. on their team.

          I love Pacioretty and think he will be good, but I don’t group him in elite company like Price and Subban just yet. He was becoming quite a good power forward before Chara knocked him out though. Hopefully, he will keep getting better.

        • saskhabfan says:

          Most teams in the league have all 3? Most teams have an elite 23 year old goalie who can play 70 games and still be a top 5 goalie? Most teams have a future franchise and possible norris candidate defenceman? Most might have the forward and maybe one of the other 2 but thats about it. You know alot less about hockey then everybody here thought you did.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Thomas has played well but he has also stunk in a few games. Vancouver will win this series in maximum 6 games. They could beat any team in the East hands down.

      If you think it is tough for the habs now, wait till Detroit is in the East next year with Atlanta/Winnipeg moving to the west. We will need to have a really solid D core to compete. I have a feeling the Habs are going to sign both Markov and Wiz with Gorges. If that is the case we are going to have a serious back end with Price in net.

      Our offence will have to rely on our kids to develop and our vets to play like they are capable.

  11. punkster says:

    Think on just how far back this goes and how he influenced so much of what we hear today.

    R.I.P. GS-H

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  12. Sean Bonjovi says:

    1. ______ – Pleks – Cammi
    2. Max Pac – Gomez – Gio
    3. Andrei – Eller – ______
    4. *Darche – DD – *White
    *Tom Pyatt

    * Fowards 11, 12, and 13 are interchangeable
    – If we keep Pouliot he needs to replace either Darche or Tom Pyatt
    – The other subtraction is Travis Moen. I like Moen, but he’s a better fit on a high scoring team. (unless he bumps Darche or Tom Pyatt)
    – The space on the first line Must go to someone likely to score 50+ points (preferably someone with a big body) otherwise that’s Andrei’s spot and then we’d need another 3rd liner.
    – The space on the 3rd line needs to go to a guy who can play defensive hockey And score something in the neighborhood of 30 points.

    There are very few candidates available to fill the spot on the first line. There are a few more options for the third line.

    * It’s a given that any new player must be capable of performing within Le System™.

    * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

    • Sharks9 says:

      i’m hoping we get Laich or Leino for our first line, those guys would help out a lot and they’re decent sized.

      25 before 14

      • habstrinifan says:

        I like Laich

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        I’d take Laich. Sign Brooks Laich And Taylor Pyatt and I’d be happy.

        * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        If Laich hits the open market, I think PG will go hard after him. He seems like he would be a very good fit on our team. Not a star, but he has good offensive skill to go with some size. He also can play centre or wing and can kill penalties and is known to be a good character guy and leader.

        Not sure that Washington lets him go, but if he walks, we have to pursue him.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Lose Pyatt, demote Pouliot, bring up Dawes and Palushaj. and fill inthe blanks with two big forwards…

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        If we drop Pyatt and demote Pouliot, but keep Darche and Moen, and add Dawes and Palushaj we’ll have 13 forwards on the roster with no room to add size (it may be wrong, but I’m assuming they’ll carry 13 forwards and not 14) . I like all these players as depth guys for different reason, but If we keep them all we can’t get bigger. If you could only keep two of Darche, Moen, Dawes, and Pouliot, which two? I fear PG will decide to keep them all and not sign any better players.

        * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      I just decided I would Keep Moen and drop Mathieu Darche. The more I think about the more obvious it becomes. Moen is definitely more valuable than Darche IMO.

      * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        I’m not so inclined to agree.

        They are different players and both are equally valuable to the team. Darche brings a surprising amount of gritty offense and is also a great example for the kids. Moen is more of a checker and penalty killer. He occasionally drops the mitts, which makes him valuable as well.

        I think both need to be kept for now.

  13. habstrinifan says:

    Two players I like, who are ranked in first 20 may be available to Canadiens because.. a) HABS wont have to trade up too high to get them or .. b)these players may may slip by draft day.

    They are defenseman Jamieson Oleksiak now ranked around 13th and Left winger Brandon Saad.

  14. Sean Bonjovi says:

    I’m gonna post line combos 🙂 !

    * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

  15. Bash says:

    How’s the fishing MA? Any bites??

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  16. SeriousFan09 says:

    Draftees being kicked around at Hockeys Future amongst the Habs Faithful:

    Some are really high on 5’6″ Rocco Grimaldi, who’d be 1st overall if he was 6′, elite speed, hands, vision, tenacity, the whole package but the issue is… 5’6″. Talent exists and the argument is there for BPA (I’m not in favour, but I thought it worth mentioning, Grimaldi is considered a heavy wildcard in the draft). Tomas Jurco is getting more of a following thanks to his MEM Cup show. Mark McNeill remains a favourite by some as does Mark Scheifele. Others are chatting up 6’7″ D Jamieson Oleksiak, who’s already played a year of NCAA Hockey and projects as a more two-way player than Tinordi. JT Miller and Nicklas Jensen are also still being mentioned as favourables.

    For a 3rd, 4th-round selection, some are chatting up Kale Kessy, a 6’3″, 190-pound LW with the WHL Medicine Hat Tigers. One scout calls him a “Poor Man’s Lucic”. If you want sandpaper for the team, this is a guy who might have more to give if his skating improves, fights against guys bigger than him, gives out open-ice hits and never backs down according to his coach.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  17. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I think the only way that Wisniewski stays is if Montreal is able to move Spacek. Not that I think Spacek is awful (he’s fine. Not great, but fine), it’s just that he pulls in a pretty high salary.

    The problem is, that Spacek will only become attractive to other teams once all the free agent defencemen have been signed (and that includes Wiz).

    Instead Montreal still needs a top line LW – I continue to think that a return of Tanguay would be a very inexpensive option to bridge the time until Pacioretty is ready to take his spot on the top line.

  18. SeriousFan09 says:

    I come to speak in praise of a man who is almost certainly departing, but should be saluted for his valiant service.

    Roman Hamrlik: 312GP in the regular season as a Canadien and 42 more in the playoffs. He scored 22 goals, 97 assists in those RS games and 1G, 14A in the playoffs. He blocked an incredible 731 shots in his 4-season run and 110 more in the playoffs, his TOI just dipped below 22 minutes/game for one season and in the last two years, no member of the team averaged more ES TOI/G than he did.

    Yes he wore down badly at the end of the last two seasons. Yes that made him more susceptible to gaffes. But let us not forget, he took on a job well beyond what was expected of him for the last two years with the Canadiens and we should respect that, he never complained, he did his job and we made the playoffs and he got hit with more rubber along the way than the Indy 500 track.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  19. MontrealAtheist says:

    Claude Julien making it to the Stanley Cup finals is the ultimate nail in Bob Gainey’s coffin. After all, Julien was doing a decent job in Montreal, brought the team to the play-offs when Gainey decided to dump him in order to make room for his friend Carbo (and we all know how that worked out).

    Looks like all of Bob Gainey’s bad decisions will come back to haunt us for quite a while.

    • HabsFan2 says:

      2007 New Jersey Devils…1st in their division with one week to go in the season…Lou fires Julien.

      Yeah, Gainey’s a real bad guy!

      R.I.P.- K.C. – Jan.28, 1993 – May 19, 2011

      • ManApart says:

        Gainey is great….for the golf country clubs that is. They get the extra month and a half revenue from all the Habs players. Imagine if Yzerman would have been the Canadiens GM? All those golf courses would be missing out on tons of money every spring.

        • HabsFan2 says:

          Yzerman. Isn’t that the GM that saw his team lose in the ECF?

          That sounds eerily familiar.

          Now do us all a favour and go be the best damn ABH fan there ever was, big guy!

          R.I.P. – K.C. – Jan.28, 1993 – May 19, 2011

          • OneTimer says:

            TBL loses in ECF: Yzerman is a GOD.
            Montreal loses in ECF: Gainey is a terrible GM.

            Montreal…durr da durr…golf joke….hur, dur. Look how clever I am. Hurr, hurr. Golf.

          • saskhabfan says:

            Yup,that’s the manapart hypocracy right there. Manapart also isn’t a big guy. He is a pip squeak. If you put a string through his nose and a garbage bag on his back you can fly him around like a kite.

        • issie74 says:

          ManApart … re: Bob Gainey ….. 6 Stanley Cups not to shabby.

          I consider Gainey to be the best all-around player in the world.

          Russian Coach Victor Tikinov

    • issie74 says:

      There were a lot of issues.Players out of control.It was a decision with the Gilette family involved.They did own the team,I hope you know.

  20. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Alex Kovalev for 1 mill… any takers?

  21. RetroMikey says:

    Gonna root for the bad Bruins to win the Cup!
    Besides the goon hockey everyone on this site is whining and crying about, they are a talented skilled team.
    Don;t give a rat ass about those Canucks as they would never give a crap if we made it to the final.
    Prediction….Bruins in 6.
    Folks, they are a very good team, Lucic is going to have a great series.
    It’s about time an original 6 team makes us proud again and root for the beasts of the East than those Swedish meatballs in the West!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Lucic have a great series? Well maybe the 4th time would be the charm for that shaved gorilla.

      Nice xenophobic remark to end your post, another reason I never take your ranting seriously. One of those “Swedish Meatballs” was one of the few players with the balls to say Chara knew exactly what he was doing when he tried to kill Patches.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • RetroMikey says:

        Whiners like you can’t accept defeat lightly.
        I suggest you buy yourself a bottle of Tide liquid and start washing those crying towels.
        Snap out of it. We are eliminated, the weather is getting better and better and Gauthier will have a long summer himself to make our team back to respectability, crying doesn’t help.
        My Manchester United team lost, am I sulking like you on and on everyday? My hat goes off to Barcelona for playing a fine game.
        Geez, you are such a poor sport, better go back to your blog and write something than complaining here all the time.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          All you do is complain that this team is going in the wrong direction when you’re here Mikey, look in the mirror.

          I will never accept that I have to respect the detestable character of that team, they’re bullies and thugs who revel in hypocrisy. When did those become admirable traits? They have talent, but they make it difficult to respect it because they walk around with a self-entitlement that they do not deserve.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
          SF09 on Twitter

          • saskhabfan says:

            Why waste your time sf09? Losers like retrowanker don’t even deserve your acknowledgment. Retro resembles a pedo hanging around school yards with a bag of candy.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Lucic had more giveaways than MAB in the Conference Finals, he is not going to turn things around, Overrated.

  22. HabFanSince72 says:

    Man utd are one of the better teams in Europe. Maybe even the second best..

    Barcelona just toyed with them for 90 minutes. Harelm globetrotters versus Washington generals style.

    Best team since early 90’s Milan.

    • RetroMikey says:

      Super strongman Serbian Nemanja Vidic, the best centre back of all time in my opinion!

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

      • jimmy shaker says:

        He is a stud back there on the D! Cheers to that. Boston wins, Barca wins……..0 for 2 in the last two days of teams I was rooting against, bite me in the arce. Oh well, at least PG will be getting marky, gorges, gill and the wiz all signed up in the coming days. Although now that rafalski retired, holland is going to make a strong push for the michigan native wiz to fill in for rafalski……should be interesting to see what the wiz will do!


        • RetroMikey says:

          Wiz needs to sign in Montreal, that is the number 1 priority for Gauthier to sign on D first and foremost!

          “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

          • jimmy shaker says:

            I think though with the money detroit can throw at him, which has to be more than the habs can offer, and the hometown boy coming home angle, it might be too much for the habs and the wiz to pass up. Love to keep him here, but it will be interesting to see how things play out!


      • saskhabfan says:

        Serbians are totally useless at hockey or even knowledge of the game.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Vidic the best of all time? You must have never seen any of the true immortals play. The Kaiser Franz Beckenbauer, Franco Baresi, Fabio Cannavaro.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Barca is so good, their games are at times boring because of the ball possession and the way they lull the fans and the other team to sleep with all those passes. Full credit to them, they deserved it as they were by far the better team.


    • habstrinifan says:

      Great game to watch. So satisfying to see super skilled players combine.. a sthe announcer said.. they looked unplayabler at times.

      Helped ease a weekend in which I have to eat crow re Tampa winning series and Cup. But it will get worse caus eI am still sticking to my conviction that whoever won the east will beat Vanc and maybe in 5 games.

      So I will have to live thru a Bruins cup.

  23. avatar_58 says:

    So everyone is ready to watch Chara hoist the cup right? I mean the canucks have zero chance. I give it 4 or 5 games tops.

  24. MathMan says:

    The most annoying part about Boston winning will be the four-five months of ridiculous hype about how awesome Boston is, followed by two-three months of wondering why they aren’t able to fulfill the expectations the hype will place on them but that they simply don’t have the orses for…

    • avatar_58 says:

      Look I hate them too, but who cares? Trash talk is what makes hockey. Get over it

      • MathMan says:

        The problem is not the Bruins media, the problem is the general hockey media. If Boston wins the Cup they’ll convince themselves that the Bruins are an elite club, and try to convince us of that over and over and over again.

  25. TommyB says:

    Was it just me, or was last night’s game very reminiscent of some Habs games? Tampa had virtually no forecheck going. They would gain the zone, only to get one perimeter shot on goal, and then the puck is turned over and they have to peel back. They relied heavily on team D, and a goaltender who was out of his mind good last night. Had it not been for Roloson, the game would have been decided quite quickly. The Lightning sat back hoping for that elusive powerplay that never did come last night. When finally Boston scored, and there were only minutes remaining, then Tampa cranked out the offense in a relentless, but unsuccessful, manner. The Tampa Bay Lightning had HABS written all over them last night.

  26. SHUTTemDOWN says:

    VanCan will cull the big, bad, bozo bears and send ’em back to the wild from whence they came.
    R.I.P. Gill Scott Heron…

    “The sh*t is CHESS!NOT CHECKERS.” Denzel W.(Training Day)

  27. MilaKunis says:

    and the last time (before this year) the Habs won the first two games of a series, the team that came back to beat them went on to win the Stanley Cup.

    Carolina Hurricanes. Mark Recchi was also on that team.

  28. RGM says:

    Nathan Horton has been fined an undisclosed amount for tossing a water bottle at a fan in Tampa last Wednesday. Probably a token amount.

    During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

  29. HabFanSince72 says:

    Come on Barca!

  30. HardHabits says:

    My prediction is that it’s either going to be Boston in 6 or Vancouver in 7. If Vancouver wins the top 5 theory is intact. Needless to say the caveat exists in that the difference between 2nd and 8th was nimonal this season in that only 4 points separated those 7 teams. Vancouver ran away with the league.

    It’s interesting to note that both SCF finalists dominated the league in goals differential. Vancouver led with a +77 and Boston came in second with a +51.


    My analysis is that the two major factors in this series will be face-offs and goal-tending with the sub-plot being Vancouver’s ability to score 5-5.

    Everything points to a Vancouver victory but they’ll have to go the distance in this case as I think we’ll see a 7 game series and the home ice advantage will be the final intangible edge in this series.

    It’s why IMO for Boston to win this they must do it in 6 games. If Boston wins in 7 we’re talking major bragging rights for the rest of eternity.

    • G-Man says:

      This Cup Final will be all about those with help from the league turning a blind eye vs. those without that critical help, especially in the face-off circles. If the Nucks lose it will be all about the NHL being a thug league.

      • HardHabits says:

        More Habs speak. That whine is bitter and getting more and more sour by the minute.

        Thug league. Lions and tigers and bears oh my.

        I recommend curling or maybe figure skating for you G-Man. I don’t think hockey is your speed.

    • thorandresson says:

      huh? Canucks in 7? You write in your post how Vancouver ran away with the league, and how they are statistically better in faceoffs and goals differential, and yet you somehow think they will only win in 7? As if somehow Boston is better than that? Really?

      Canucks in 4, bring the brooms. Don’t see the Bruins having an answer for the Sedins, and Kesler will shut down the Lucic line easily. And Vancouver’s D is as deep as it gets…

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        The Canucks will win one game on their own plus however many Timmy Thomas hands them on a platter.

        * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

      • HardHabits says:

        I’d love to see the Canucks win this in 4-5 games. By contrast the contrary would not be good at all. I just see this series going the distance.

  31. HardHabits says:

    Mea culpa or slight modification?

    I was not precise enough in my specifications for the demarcation line as it should have read 6’0″ or taller and/or approximately 200 lbs. or heavier.

    6’0″ and 180 lbs is borderline but passable. It’s easier to gain weigh than it is to add height and reach.

  32. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Canucks are about to find out what every other team who played the Boston Dirtbags found out. Not only do you have to beat Boston, you have to overcome the Ref’s, Linesman, and the NHL. For instance, get used to having your key face-off guys thrown out of the circle on key face-offs in the offensive zone. Get used to Boston players getting away with high-sticks, holding and hooking and all sorts of general goonery. Get used to Boston players throwing stuff at your fans or making lewd gestures to them without any discipline from the NHL.

    • ManApart says:

      here comes the imaginary excuses and ridiculous justifications for why Thomas and the Bruins are in the Finals. Face it, they are a good team and deserve to be there. I understand you know nothing about hockey and can’t see that, but stooping down to saying the league is fixed and they wanted the Bruins to be in the Finals is ridiculous, even for you.

      • saskhabfan says:

        Speaking of excuses,please remind us how you blamed injuries for halaks poor play this year? Meanwhile saying injuries were not an excuse for the habs. What was halak’s excuse for the word championships? He had a full healthy slovakian squad in front of him and they sucked. His glorious .860 save percentage ranked him only ahead of the 2 goalies from austria. Looks like once again you know even less about hockey then i thought you did.

  33. HabFanSince72 says:

    Google Correlate is a new search tool that allows you to perform correlations between search terms used in google.

    Search terms that correlate with searches for “Zdeno Chara”:,20

    Note at number one “Tiger kills Lion” implying that people who are interested in Zdeno Chara are sadists, and at number 16 “Eva Braun Pictures” with a 0.98 correlation, which suggests that … well I think it’s fairly obvious.

  34. Toe Blake says:

    It doesn’t matter who wins. One way or another, a former Hab is gonna hoist the Cup while the current roster gets to yank themselves for the remainder of the off season.

  35. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Question for the mods:

    Will the digital paywall that Postmedia is implementing with both the Montreal Gazette and Victoria Times Colonist apply to Hockey Inside Out?

  36. TorontoHabsFan says:

    *double post

  37. MontrealAtheist says:

    I hate Boston as much as anyone here, but I couldn’t care less if they win the Cup or not.

    We had our chance to knock them out and we blew it. The only ones who can avenge our loss are us and us only, not Philly, not Tampa Bay and certainly not the Canucks.

    It’s bad sportsmanship to cheer for the Canucks just because the Bruins beat us fair and square and I hope most h/o’ers here are beyond this.

    • punkster says:

      I’m cheering for the Nucks because I despise the Bruins. If it was the Flyers playing the Bruins I’d cheer for the Flyers. I don’t believe that makes me a poor sport. I believe it means I simply despise the Bruins.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • TomNickle says:

        No kidding. There are a large number of players and management from that team who are classless jerks. Guys who are very hypocritical, guys who are cowards, guys who whine and guys who have no class in winning or losing.

    • habstrinifan says:

      “We had our chance to knock them out and we blew it. The only ones who can avenge our loss are us and us only, not Philly, not Tampa Bay and certainly not the Canucks.”

      I like this attitude and hope PG and JM do what it takes to avenge this recent spate of losses from the Bruins.

      I dont care who wins the Cup.. they deserve it. I am more concerned in whatthe HABS are doing to win. And I aint always optimistic.

  38. Neutral says:

    Say what you want about the Bruins and yes the Habs did a great job against them but when it comes right down to it Boston have the best all around team in the league built to win a cup. they can score, hit, good D, good Goaltending and they can play tough if need be.

    • TomNickle says:

      Some would argue that their goaltending is tremendously inconsistent and that they have absolutely no depth on defense. Seidenberg and Boychuk have played over their heads, and good for them. Bottom line, without Chara, they aren’t even in the playoffs.

    • _Habsoloutly_ says:

      I disagree. Their defense is horrible and slow. Their forwards, like Ryder, Lucic, and the rest have been below average all playoffs. They’ve made it this far with help from the linesman, the refs, and the NHL.

      • Sharks9 says:

        Not to mention the worst special teams on Earth! I just can’t believe how they got this far, Canucks will beat them in 5.

        25 before 14

  39. terrier92 says:

    My summer was made when the B’s bounced the Hab’s. While I have the utmost respect for the Canadians and their tradition nothing please me more than to see the Bruins knock them out of the playoffs. Doesn’t happen often but it is sweet when it does. I am a Bruins season ticket holder and the Habs games were great. Never miss one. However I always enjoyed watching Tampa because of St Louis. An amazing player. I frankly see him whistling on his way to rink every day. He is doing what God intended him to do with life. He is a hockey player.

    Now my cheap shot. It was refreshing to see when Stamkos got hit last night that he did not lie on the ice and wait for the stretcher. Got up skated to bench and came back to play. So Habs fans scratch him of your list of potential players. Hes not a diva. If that had been a Hab we would still be there.

    As for the finals hey the boys will decide that. It will as always be fun to watch. God Bless Hockey.

    Go Bruins

  40. TomNickle says:

    Guy Boucher has proven to be a fine coach, although probably not as fine of a coach as some here would like to admit. And I keep thinking back to the game analysis last night where it was mentioned several times that Boucher’s biggest focus was keeping his team calm for game 7. I think, and it’s just my opinion, that focusing on keeping your team calm going into a win or go home situation is a mistake. You’re on the road first of all, and will need a high energy output to be successful. Second, for many of those players, it’s the biggest game of their lives, one game away from the Stanley Cup, why wouldn’t you want your players to be as excited as possible for that game? They certainly haven’t displayed undisciplined play through this season. Third, speed kills the Bruins, it’s a fact. Boucher needed to look no further than the Habs series with the Bruins. When the Habs skated and attacked they dominated, when they sat back they were dominated. Boucher played right into the Bruins hands last night. Perhaps it was Boucher himself who needed to be calmed and may have incorrectly convinced himself that his team needed the same.

    You can’t sit and back hope you have energy for tomorrow in that game, everything your team had needed to be left on the ice in that game, and it certainly wasn’t. Coaching growing pains I say.

  41. Chris79 says:

    English broadcast… would solve this slamming the Montreal Canadiens…… CBC’s goons cherry,milbury,Stock, openly hatin the habs maybe not so much on Stock but..still…. no one there to talk back at them.. is a big problem for the Habs… Givin them that image it’s okay to talk about this team as they want.. RDS ppffff there safe in there little corner in the Hockey world….. We won’t have all these pathetic haters on the Habs if we have English Broadcast… I personally think thats why Everyone craps on the Habs. Obviously TSN recently aired a few games.. Someone is startin to get it… Soon enough we’ll have it.. and RDS can go Hid back in there little corner.. Forgot to mention Tony Marinaro… Mr.Marinaro was the only one i heard goin toe to toe with them Bahston Sports radio dj’s.. and i heard He Freckin Owned them.. anyways…

  42. SmartDog says:

    I for one am going to enjoy watching the nucks spank Boston.
    You had to give the game to the Bruins last night. I don’t know what was going on with the bolts but before the game there was talk of puck control and the Boons had it and the Bolts di’nt. The bolts were playing the same kind of hockey the Habs play sometimes (and it drive me nuts)… chip and slap. Bruins played a controlled game start to finish. Sad to see Boucher et al go down like that… aw well. Go Canucks!

  43. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    Hate both finalists equally, actually. This “Canadian Pride” crap drives me nuts too. I want Boston to win so at least we can say we we’re the champs hardest put out. A better result would be both team charters colliding mid air on the flight back from Van City after a split of the first two games, and no champion being crowned.

    They lost me 2 quarts of rum, better make it up next year with a cup!

    • Clay says:

      Damn, that’s cold.
      Go Vancouver…

      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

      • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

        Ha! I’m whiny baby. If I can’t win I don’t want anyone to.
        They lost me 2 quarts of rum, better make it up next year with a cup!

  44. HardHabits says:

    Hair of the Dog:

    The Truth. Habs fans at HIO can’t handle the truth.

    Everybody here hates the Bruins. Chara on Pacioretty was the check heard around the world. February 9th the Habs were thoroughly and physically bitch slapped and March 24th humiliated.

    Let’s look at the Bruin analysis:

    The Canadiens are a despicable and dirty little hockey team that loves to dish out nasty cheap shots, often from behind, often after the whistle — and shows not the slightest willingness to back up the stick-work by dropping the gloves. The Bruins David Krejci, of all people, had more than he could stand, and started punching. In his first NHL fight, Krejci took on Canadiens sniper Mike Cammalleri last night and handled himself quite well.

    “That’s all they do, these little things, for the ref it’s hard to see,” said Krejci after the Habs’ 4-3 win. “These little guys, they just play like that — little elbows and everything, and it’s hard for the ref to see. I just didn’t like the way they do it, and I didn’t like when they do it on me, so that’s what happened.”

    I hate to break it to you but Krejci is right.

    The Habs are a small team. They get physically brutalized out there and have no response other than the tactics that Krejci spells out. Cammy’s two hander on Niederreiter, or Plekanec’ frequent stick work are glaring examples. Gomez chintzy penalties and yapping at the referees are part of the dynamic. Anyone remember Shane Doan body slamming Gionta to the ice 2 seasons ago in Phoenix? Gionta eventually had to take some time off a few short games after that. Yes it was a puck off the skate that sealed the deal but it was that WWF take down that started the process.

    Speed kills. But in hockey speedy and skilled players need to be surrounded by players with a physical presence.

    A team that carries Plekanec, Gionta, Gomez and Cammalleri on it cannot afford to have any other players shorter than 6’0″ or that weigh much less than 200 pounds on it if it pretends to be taken seriously in the NHL.

    The Bruins are a solid team and we might just be seeing a dynasty in the making. The Habs have a long way to go before they can pretend to have a chance at the big dance.

    Flame away cry babies.

    • el heffe says:

      Dynasty? The Bruins? In Neely’s wettest dreams. If the Bruins are a “dynasty” hence cmparing them to the Habs of the seventies, or the Oilers/Islanders of the eighties then i am the walking corpse of Jimmy Hoffa.

      nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      HH: Revealing all truth to the unenlightened masses.

      — formerly notbigbird —

    • HabsFan2 says:

      Thanks for the laugh, HH.

      RIP- K.C. – Jan.28, 1993 – May 19, 2011

    • punkster says:

      Hey HH. Good comeback below on the Swedish draft picks. 🙂

      As for your stunning revelation that the Habs need size I can only say…really?

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • HardHabits says:

        Cammy, Gio and Plex are keepers and worth their collective cap hit, but they need support out there in order to not get mauled. They would be all the more lethal on the score board that way as well.

        It’s not rocket surgery!

    • issie74 says:

      HH C’ can you call Chara on Pacioretti a check … Chara had at least 4 different options … the puck was in the corner and the other defenceman had control … Chara could have made the hockey and gone to the front of the net … where he should in case Pac got back to the corner before they could get the puck out … he would have been there to defend if Pac had been able to gain control … or he could have taken a pass and put the puck out of the zone.That would have been the hockey plays, or he could have chosen the lazy play and triped him … a two minute for tripping or interference.Remember there is no puck.
      He made a very poor decision.
      I have been watching Chara since his days in Long Island and I remarked early to friends early in the season that I saw something in Chara I had not seen before … a very angry man.

      As for the Habs … I would never say they aren’t dirty … I think all hockey players are but you do not hear Gionta comming out and making the kind of statments that Krechi made … you will also never hear Price going on radio and saying Marchand is a diver and a disgrace to the game … as Thomas did.

      So please let’s be fair here.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      February 9th was the most overrated freak game we saw as Habs fans in years. It was a show of cowardice and bully tactics that only occured because Gomez’s line played their worst game of the season so the game degenerated into a circus. Habs kept on playing though, despite being ‘completely bitch-slapped’ they kept it on all night and Pacioretty put one away right before the buzzer to remind Thomas he’s got his number. Fights were won by Bruins when the fights were with players like Tom Pyatt, Roman Hamrlik and Jaro Spacek. It showed how small that team is as men, they have to pick fights against non-fighters to pump up their pathetic egos and justify their tough-guy image while they skate right away from anyone who can challenge them.

      The reason we detest Boston is they decry these tactics while doing the exact same things, and worse! Chara on Pacioretty, Marchand’s elbow that had him suspended, starting fights in garbage time of games they have lost, or won! Trash-talking in the media against other teams and saying other teams are embelishing injuries. They are hypocrites of the highest order and have all the maturity of an 8-year old right up to their coach who deploys the goon lines in the garbage time.

      HH, anyone such as you who studies the NHL as it exists today knows full well the Dynasty doesn’t exist and can’t. a Dynasty Team wins Three or Four Cups in a span of 3-5 years. No one can do that today, the salary cap has assured that and next year they likely won’t enjoy their first two playoff opponents having injuries to critical players.

      How can we really be sure Boston is better than MTL when we almost never play them full strength against full strength? Time will tell HH, I was called a dreamer and a fanboy for saying the Habs would have 100 points in the 10-11 season with a healthy Markov. They had 96 and the elite blueliner turned in 6 1/2 games.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

  45. saskhabfan says:

    Looks like the habs are a much better team then the local whiners say they are since our habs pushed the bruins further then any of their other opponenets did. At least we scored goals in game 7 and pushed it to overtime. The lightning looked brutal for large parts of the game and unmotivated. How do you come up with such a lame duck effort in a game 7?

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      I agree with you on how Tampa played. Boston certainly did a great job defensively, but Tampa showed no real drive and very little skill. I expected more from St. Louis.

      Oh well. Go Canucks.

    • ManApart says:

      Boston is a very good team, that’s why they are in the Finals. Of course you predicted them to be out in the 1st round, but you know nothing about hockey, so not surprising. The Habs were in a very fortunate spot of catching the Bruins sleeping to start the series. Once they woke up in game 3, they won 4 out of 5 and took Montreal down. I do give the Habs’ system credit though, for hanging in there the whole way.

  46. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    I was just looking at Tampa’s cap situation for next year, and this is what it looks like:


    Vincent Lecavalier ($7.727m) / Martin St. Louis ($5.625m) / Ryan Malone ($4.500m)
    Steve Downie ($1.850m) / Dominic Moore ($1.100m) / Nate Thompson ($0.900m)
    Dana Tyrell ($0.845m)

    Pavel Kubina ($3.850m) / Mattias Ohlund ($3.607m)
    Victor Hedman ($3.500m) / Brett Clark ($1.500m)

    BUYOUTS: Vaclav Prospal ($1.166m) / Todd Fedoruk ($0.375m)

    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $36,546,916; BONUSES: $2,737,500
    CAP SPACE (11-man roster): $22,853,084

    This will be Yzerman’s big test. He has to re-sign Stamkos, which will cost him AT LEAST $7 million in cap space. He has no goalies signed for next year. He has to try to improve his defense and he may lose some forwards that have been productive, like Bergenheim. He won’t have a lot of room under the cap to improve the team.

    They could take a step back next year.

  47. dudurules says:


  48. Toe Blake says:

    It could be tons worse like last year with the Flyers having a chance.

  49. Tony McLean says:

    Another example of bigger more talented teams *taking* what they desire more than the Smurfs. Now Alice Ghost-ley signs another 187 Euro-weakling.

    Two countries GaineyGauthier never scouted in: Sweden and Quebec LOL.

    “Rebuilding since 1979.”

    • HardHabits says:

      2011 NHL draft picks Top 10 by ranking:

      1 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (C) Canada
      2 Adam Larsson (D) Sweden
      3 Sean Couturier (C) Canada
      4 Gabriel Landeskog (LW) Sweden
      5 Dougie Hamilton (D) Canada
      6 Mika Zibanejad (C) Sweden
      7 Jonathan Huberdeau (C) Canada
      8 Ryan Murphy (D) Canada
      9 Ryan Strome (C) Canada
      10 Oscar Klefbom (D) Sweden


      • punkster says:

        Badabing, badaboom.

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

        • HardHabits says:

          BTW. Cammy fared well against Krecji giving up 3 inches and reach. I don’t deny any of the current vertically challenged Habs tenacity and toughness. DD is stronger than Pouliot by extensive margins. But when push comes to shove the Habs get pushed around and let’s face it, push and shove are a big part of what hockey is all about, which doesn’t refute speed and skill as lethal weapons.

          If the Habs were all size and grit and had no talent and were slow on their skates I’d be clamouring for speed and skill.

          So. In effect the Habs have the foundations in:
          a) goaltending
          b) defensive structure
          c) efficient specialty teams
          d) player development

          The two areas I lament ad nauseum are offensive production 5 on 5 and the added physical presence needed to compete effectively in the grind that is NHL hockey.

  50. habitude says:

    Looks like that pastor in Florida pegged the date for the Rapture a few weeks early. It could come in early June if the Bruins hoist the Cup.

  51. HabFanSince72 says:

    Mindfulness will get us through this.

    Mindfulness is a technique adapted from Buddhism. The Buddha advocated satipatthana (or mindfulness), meaning a calm awareness of one’s emotions and bodily states.

    In clinical psychology mindfulness allows patients to practice emotional self-regulation:

    “The first component [of mindfulness] involves the self-regulation of attention so that it is maintained on immediate experience, thereby allowing for increased recognition of mental events in the present moment. The second component involves adopting a particular orientation toward one’s experiences in the present moment, an orientation that is characterized by curiosity, openness, and acceptance.”

  52. Habfan4lfe says:

    No penalties called all game. You know I predicted that to people at work yesterday? I said watch, NHL is a crock. NHL wont call a single penalty all game. Hahahaha! Guess I won 10 bucks! Damn I should have gone with my original 50 bucks! NHL is such a crock of crap.

  53. Bugs says:

    This is bad. This is really, really bad. Even if they DON’T win the Cup, they still got braggin rights now. The Finals are a big, big deal, man; we all know that.
    This is not good.

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • punkster says:

      I tend to agree, to a degree. Thing is, around here the general feeling seems to be if you don’t win the Cup you ain’t done nothing to brag about. I may have to crank up my NESN attacks a tad over the coming days.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Clay says:

      Habs – 24 Cups
      Bruins – 5 Cups
      We will own bragging rights for many moons, my friend.

      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

    • HabsFan2 says:

      If they lose they still have bragging rights?

      I can see it now, “In your face Habs fans. We made the finals and LOST and you didn’t!!”

      Yeah, that hurts. Brag away. 😐

      RIP- K.C. – Jan.28, 1993 – May 19, 2011

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Maybe having bragging rights will knock that chip of Boston’s shoulder — at least for one year, until we put it back.

      — formerly notbigbird —

    • Sharks9 says:

      They can brag about how they gave up a draft pick to the Leafs! Honestly, if you don’t win the Cup it doesn’t mean anything. Everyone knows how many Cup wins the Habs have, I doubt the average fan can say how many Cup Finals appearances they have. Why? Because it doesn’t matter.

      25 before 14

  54. issie74 says:

    I will repeat what Denis Potvin said to Louis Jean on Sportsnet last night.That was a terrible waste of talent.
    With 10 minutes down by 1 goal,why would you continue to play the 1 – 3 -1.Why would you not open it up and force Boston to defend.
    I love Potvin,ask him a question and you get an honest answer,he dosen’t give me the feeling that he is in anyone’s pocket.

  55. habitual says:

    Don’t just relax. Enjoy. We are about to see the hated Bruins lose.

    It will be the second best outcome we could have hoped for.

  56. king ddd says:

    well at least now the bruins wont be going the cup finals for couple of years to come.

  57. J_P says:

    I know the canucks are the Favorites on paper, but they aren’t the REAL favorites.

    A) They come from canada. Canadian teams winning is not profitable nor good for business for the NHL.
    B) The Bruins have Colin Campbell and Gary Bettman on their side (B’s owner Jeremy Jacobs is head of the NHL board of governors and the man who extended Bettmans contract in November).

    Vancouver is SO favored, that you just know the bruins are going to win.

    All kidding aside, go Canucks go!

  58. derfab says:

    The dilemma is that the Bruins have a tradition of feeding off the hatred most feel for them. So when I say I really hope someone eventually decides to hurt a Bruin, it is with a heavy heart, partly, also, because I know it will probably be someone like Bergeron, Thomas or Seguin, instead of one of the 5 or 6 pukes they have that deserve it most.

    The Bruins have had a very easy road to the final but have managed to make it appear difficult. They faced 2 mediocre teams who most likely would not have made the play-offs had they been in the western conference. The officiating approach last night also clearly favoured them since Tampa has won with the PP, but the Bruins, to their credit, are a physically impressive team and were able to make Tampa look tired and inept. The so-called “energy” of the game was more like nervous tension over who would get an ugly goal. Key players on Tampa who have been great (like Vinny and Moore) just didn`t have it last night and Thomas, despite Cole`s senile screaming over routine stops, was not tested at all. Canucks in 4.

  59. joeybarrie says:

    I like the fact that i feel we came pretty close to beating Boston, and they made the Finals. I don’t know if we had enough AMMO to go that far with our injury issues, but I like the direction we are headed.
    BOSTON WINNING THE STANLEY CUP???? I just cant picture it. I believe too much in Karma.
    Plus like alot of you, I agree, Vancouver is too good. I do not think they have the answer to the Sedin’s and all the other stuff Vancouver has to throw at them. The only thing up in the air is Luongo. However, despite his meltdowns, I think he is far enough in his career to be able to go thru this series with the right mentality. He did it with Canada, and that recent success can be used right now.
    Vancouver in 5.
    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  60. Clay says:

    No need at all to get depressed if the B’s win. Better to just go enjoy your life.
    With that said, Go Vancouver.

    The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  61. twocents says:

    I say it goes way beyond paper.
    The Canucks are a better team in every facet imaginable, both on paper and on the ice.

    Canucks in 5.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      I agree. Vancouver is too good right now, and they’ll be even better if Malhotra comes back.

      The Canucks’ biggest obstacle was Chicago in the First Round. Once they got past the Blackhawks and got that monkey off their back, I knew they would be a very tough team to beat.

      Too much depth. Good defense that join the rush. Guys who hit. And Luongo is playing well too.

      I don’t see Boston beating them. Vancouver is not Tampa Bay or the Habs. They will give Boston much more trouble in their zone. Luongo is not Boucher/Leighton/Bobrovsky. When the Canucks need him to make stops, he will be there.

    • Tony McLean says:

      I say in six but Luongo, I still can’t trust him.

      “Rebuilding since 1979.”

  62. Bertuzzi says:

    History repeats itself.

    The finals in 1994 represented good versus evil. Vancouver was David and New York was Goliath. New York had assembled their team unfairly and in the spirit of poor sportsmanship. With a budget much greater than Vancouver’s, they went out and purchased half the Edmonton Oilers.

    It was not a competition of hockey players, it was a competition of pocket books. It was not sport, it was business. It was rich versus poor.

    Now, Vancouver is back in the finals, and again, we have good versus evil.

    Every fan knows Boston’s rise to the top has not been based purely on the skill of the players. Since budgets have been equalized, they have found a new way to tip the scales. The father of one of their players is a manager of the league. This conflict of interest is glaring and it’s continued existence is insulting to the purity of the game. It has already been demonstrated and openly stated by many that Boston receives preferential treatment when it comes to discipline and it has already been revealed that Campbell influences the officiating.

    One example instead of many: Chara should have been suspended, and the consequences could have altered Boston’s present situation. Boston has risen to the top with the help of a sixth man.

    As in 1994, we will not be watching two teams that have been given the same opportunities, competing in a pure, unadulterated competition. One has been given preferential treatment. The playing field is not even. This is not a sporting event in the sense of a fair competition between two opponents who are subject to the same rules and opportunities. This is corruption versus honor.

    This is good versus evil.

    • st smart says:

      every fan knows (what?)… (deleted). Bruins played the a outstanding game last night and would have beaten anyone in the league with how they fared last night; so give credit where credit is do. If it gets you through the Summer, fine, but you really need to get over the Chara incident as it is yesterday’s news.

      • G-Man says:

        I hope MaxPac knocks Chara’s block off the first game the Habs play them. And I am sure it will be a “hockey play.”

      • LA Loyalist says:

        you know, I concede B’s did a hell of a job on tampa last night, who looked like they were skating in mud and only roloson kept them in it — BUT Chara is NOT yesterday’s news as long as players are still getting creamed with illegal unpunished head shots.

        In law it’s called ‘precedent’ – i.e. Nathan Horton can argue “Hey I’m getting 6 games for throwing my water bottle? Chara got squat for nearly killing that Montreal guy!”

        Think of the bigger picture. Chara is still playing. Patches isn’t. Bertuzzi is still playing (obviously not in the playoffs) Steve Moore will never play again. This sh*t will continue next year. Who will be next?

        Look at the big picture. It’s uglier than Marchand’s nose on Bettman’s face. They both look like mal-nourished rats.

        • Clay says:

          I agree with much of your post, but one rather large point continuously gets overlooked…
          Steve Moore is not playing for 2 reasons:
          1. He was a marginal player at best.
          2. He pissed off every NHL team by suing the league. No one would ever sign a player who did that.

          The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  63. The Cat says:

    Too bad Tampa didnt win. I like their players Roloson, St.Louis, Lecavalier, Moore etc, just seem like good people.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Tony McLean says:

      By not scoring early Julien had them play *his* game which is wet blanket bingo.

      “Rebuilding since 1979.”

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Lots of Montreal/Quebec connections. I wanted it for Roloson, he was amazing, that goal was a perfect play to beat him.

      But considering where Tampa were a year ago, they have done a great job and can be proud.

      Now we have to cheer for the Sedin girls. Yuck. But better than the Ruins.

      And the great irony of two ex-Habs coaches going for the cup. It is to laugh at the “simple twists of fate”, as Dylan put it.

    • HabFab says:

      Steve, I love the “nightmare” imitation BUT where the heck is Bryan?

      • 24 Cups says:

        I woke up early, Frank, so I thought I would do a little web surfing (“Everybody’s gone surfing, surfing USA….”)

        As for Bryan (NM49), I have tried to contact him but to no avail. I’ll give it another go. Come to think of it, I didn’t see him at the last Summit which is kind of unusual.

        • HabFab says:

          He made a couple of posts one day during the winter (Dec/Jan?), Eric and I told him that we had missed him being around. He said he was having hard drive problems and I have not seen a post since.

    • issie74 says:

      If Zach Phillips is still available at 17th,I will be very disappointed if the Habs don’t take him.I don’t believe his 2 wingers had a goal increase this year without his contribution.

    • issie74 says:

      24 Cups Thank You for the link,I really enjoyed it.

      I can’t wait to get another look at Zach Phillips tomorrow night.

      If you haven’t pick – up on it by now,I am a hockey addict.

  64. Bash says:

    No penalties for what would have been called in any other series game??? No secret that that this gave Boston the edge. Tampa’s PP was the key to them winning the series. Boston’s PP was the reason they should have lost. Julien felt that the ref’s did a great job and “not because we won…”

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

    • G-Man says:

      I wonder how they are allowed to have that four letter word before hub?

    • JF says:

      Steve – Thanks for the link. Basu’s piece is a good assessment of how much and how little it means that the Habs fell short by a single OT goal against the Bruins. It would be dangerous to take it as an indication that we’re nearly as good as they are, just as it would be dangerous to take our record against them last year as such an indication. I thought all season that the Bruins were the better team, even when we led them in the standings. Rather than showing how close we are to the Bruins, the three overtime losses in the playoffs highlight our greatest weakness – lack of offensive depth. I knew when the games went to overtime that Boston was more likely to win because they’re so much better 5-on-5 and the referees put their whistles away in OT (if they haven’t kept them in their pockets all night as they did last night). Gauthier seems to be improving the defence and making it younger and faster, but if he doesn’t find a way to bring in more offence, we’ll be in the same position next year – great goaltending and good defence will get us to the playoffs, but we won’t score enough even-strength goals for a deep run.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I think Basu is right on the mark. Habs wouldn’t likely have advanced to the final. But I think the main point in all of this is that the team is not as far off as many believe.

      — formerly notbigbird —

    • HardHabits says:

      Good stuff Mr. K!! Thanks for the link.

      I especially love the conclusion:

      The Habs need to focus instead on the formidable task of assembling a team that can at least open the playoffs at home next season.

  65. 24 Cups says:

    What really killed Bill Masterton? A must read in light of the present day concussion crisis in the NHL.–star-investigation-what-really-killed-nhl-s-bill-masterton

    • BsFanforLife says:

      That was a very interesting read and does bring out some questions as to whether or not TBI’s are really looked at strongly enough even in this day and age. Thanks for sharing it

  66. 24 Cups says:

    Manny (Miracle Man) Malhotra begins full practice routine.

  67. G-Man says:

    Last night was a demonstration of the garage league’s determination to have the thugs win. This is very reminiscent of when the Ducks won. I am hating every second these thugs are allowed to high stick and punch opponents in the face, give the finger and squirt water onto paying fans.
    The hockey gods must be on vacation or the Habs would have beaten these scumbags.

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