How about those Habs!

How about those Canadiens!

Sitting in first place in the Eastern Conference with a 14-4-4 record Monday morning after beating the Bruins 4-3 in Boston Sunday night. A streak of 11 games picking up at least a point (8-0-3). Third-best record in the NHL behind only Chicago (19-0-3) and Anaheim (15-3-2).

How about Max Pacioretty! He was named the NHL’s first star of the week on Monday after recording at least one point in all four of his games, tying for the league lead in goals (four) and points (seven). The 24-year-old leads the Canadiens with 8-12-20 totals in 18 games this season.

And how about that Brendan Gallagher! A pretty good-looking rookie, especially when you consider he was only a fifth-round pick (147th overall) at the 2010 NHL entry draft and wasn’t selected by the junior Vancouver Giants until the ninth round of the 2007 WHL bantam draft.

After picking up two assists and a plus-3 in the win over Boston, Gallagher has 6-7-13 totals in 18 games and is a team-leading plus-12.

The Canadiens are back in action Tuesday night on Long Island when they take on the Islanders (7 p.m., RDS, TSN 690 Radio).

(Photo by Alex Trautwig/Getty Images)

Canadiens come back to beat Bruins, by Pat Hickey

Gallagher’s star shines bright, by Jack Todd

Habs pounce after Chara leaves, by Pat Hickey

Bruins have no problem with Chara’s costly decision to fight, by NESN.com

Bruins’ Marchand, Julien call out Subban after loss, by NESN.com

Crosby stars in orgy of offence, by Dave Stubbs

Lecavalier trade talk heats up again in Tampa, by Stu Cowan

 

1,111 Comments

  1. ffenliv says:

    I have to admit, I was pretty surprised to learn that the Habs lead the league in power-plays this year, and that both Boston and Toronto are right near the top of the lists for most penalties against.

    I’ve never been a member of the ‘Leafs and Boston get all sorts of free passes from the league’ crowd, but I wouldn’t have thought that reality was so far from it.

  2. jedimyrmidon says:

    ESPN’s power rankings mention that Kadri should be considered for the Hart (albeit a fringe candidate)).

    Come on. Just because he had a hat trick against the Isles who are one of the worst teams defensively in the league doesn’t put him into Hart consideration even remotely.

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …3 or 4 years ago I wanted Lecavalier much,

    …now ? … not at all

  4. junior says:

    Hey guys new on here…the Habs made my weekend!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Welcome Junior, was a great Habs weekend! While it would have been nice to beat Pittsburgh, it was an entertaining game, and beating Boston is just plain and simple, GLORIOUS!

      • junior says:

        we cant be too greedy gotta let some teams have a chance, but you right beating boston is definately glorious ! tnx for the welcome and btw we dont need Vinny

        Love the Habs!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Welcome aboard Junior. A wonderful hockey weekend indeed.

  5. NLhabsfan says:

    Just having any of the Habs getting under Boston’s skin and winning … Makes my month:)

  6. HAB - Have A Beer says:

    The Lecavalier trade rumors are flying around again. He’s a very good center but comes with a big price tag and what we would have to give up to get him. TB would like to move him to steal some good young players from what ever team is foolish enough to do so.

    I look at it this way. The money we would have to take on to get Lecavalier and maybe not win a cup. Is it worth it. I say no wait for our own young Guys. we could bring in three young players
    for one lecavalier. if you don’t think you could win a cup with this Guy. Don’t do it MB …. we’ll pay for years.

  7. darcy1 says:

    Julien’s comments were all party of a theatre show, just like this…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XBXJtiQw-o

    ——————-
    “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan Cournoyer was proof of that.”
    - Jean Beliveau

  8. Lafleurguy says:

    Bruins Creed

    “To you from failing hands we throw an elbow pad,
    Be yours to beat a smaller opponent’s face with it”

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  9. Timo says:

    Just listened to Therrien’s interview on RDS. Price devant le filet tomorrow.

  10. Danno says:

    First it’s Mike Milbury defending the Habs, and now Glenn Healy does too! What’s going on?

    Listen to the audio clip from the interview here:

    http://dennis-kane.com/

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  11. Rainrocket16 says:

    How can the Bruins continue to call us out for Diving? I just don’t get it, yes we have embellished some plays, are you telling me that the Bruins never have? Every team sells calls…Unreal, I hate everyone on that team! From Neely down, worst organization in professional sports. P.K. is doing his job i guess if he keeps them angry!

    • Adam says:

      Every team accuses other teams of diving and dirty play.
      I’d actually love to hear Ryder and Kaberle’s views on whether they think Boston embellishes – would they throw their former teammates under the bus with the accusations that the Bruins are glad to fling at the Habs?

  12. Sportfan says:

    Max Pac, Gally, Chuck, DD, Price, Emelin, Subban, Eller and some prospects like Tinordi and Beaulieu, Hudon, Leblanc what a nice bright future and for some present! And Max Pac is a beast!

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  13. Habfan10912 says:

    Kaleta gets 5 games. Should have been 40. This crap has to end.

  14. remi_10069 says:

    Was obviously furious after last nights beatings but the win helped improve my mood. One thing i’m not happy about is the Cole trade, i am trying to convince myself that it was his doing but..

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/columnists/rick-gosselin/20130303-gosselin-trade-for-erik-cole-should-help-stars-muscle-up-against-bulky-bodies-of-western-conference-foes.ece

    Maybe we could trade Ryder for Bordeleau

    http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/1384

    pipes

  15. Adam says:

    Here’s a question for some debate:
    Obviously the Habs are playing well as a team. But in terms of individual merit, assuming this was a full season, which players would deserve consideration for the All-Star game?

    For me, Pacioretty is a lock. Price would have an excellent shot. Gallagher and Galchenyuk would be in the Young Stars game.

    What do you all think?

  16. twilighthours says:

    Also, this headline is short one question mark

  17. twilighthours says:

    This may have been mention, but the boston media was playing up the angle that Chara sitting out 12 minutes of the third was a big reason for the result. Were I a boston defenseman, I’d be saying “what, I’m not capable of playing twelve minutes and getting the job done?” it was a slap in the face to the other guys. Speaks volumes, to me.

  18. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    “Three or four guys asked to fight him, and he’s running scared from [Nathan Horton],” Marchand said after the game. “But he comes after the smallest guy on the team. It just shows you what kind of character they have there.”

    This is the enemy…


    The N.A.G. (North American Grit) effect is the only path to success…
    without PRUST we’d be a total BUST

    • The Jackal says:

      You sure the Booins weren’t talking about themselves?

    • Steve C. says:

      Maybe Gallagher should fight Marchand. The Bruins wouldn’t know what to do because #11 jumps into any dogpile…well actually, he’s usually the first one there, thus on the bottom…that being said, he’s doing a terrific job!

      • HAB-PROFESSOR says:

        Gallagher is a big part of our success.. not just by what he is doing, but the guys on the bench are being inspired…

        brilliant move by the coach and GM…

        its such an intricate multifaceted formula…. to the cup…


        The N.A.G. (North American Grit) effect is the only path to success…
        without PRUST we’d be a total BUST

  19. habs11s says:

    So Cam Ward is out (a huge piece missing from the Canes) and Malkin in back playing (possibly the best player in world) and the top story on TSN is some 4th line bum getting traded for a 4th rounder….

    _____________________________________________________________

    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  20. Frank2468 says:

    I don’t know about anyone else but I find it very ironic that Claude Jelly Belly I mean Julien was born in a town called Bind River lmao, How poetic

  21. 1010 says:

    Good thing Moen isn`t a Russian. Or he would be accused of quietly collecting his paycheque before riding off into the sunset. This is his last big payday and he knows it.
    GO HABS.

  22. JF says:

    ESPN’s power rankings have the Habs in third:

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/powerrankings

    • dano58 says:

      ESPN doesn’t know hockey as seen by their expert Barry Melrose. They must have picked that up somewhere else because they can’t figure it out on their own.

      GO HABS GO!!!

      “Opinions are like assholes and everybody has one.” – “?”
      Hopefully the Habs brass only takes the best ones!

  23. Ian Cobb says:

    The finesse and speed game defeated the Neanderthals this week.

    In both games, Boston and Toronto tried to make grease spots on the boards with our small yet better hockey players and both teams came up SHORTer for their efforts.
    We left their towns with the 4 points!!

    Where our Hab’s place in the 30 team league this week, compared to last week.

    Points…………..32, for 3rd place… Last week 26 for 2nd place.

    Goals For………68, for 3rd place… Last week 52 for 8th place.

    Goals Against..53, for 8th place… Last week 39 for 3rd place.

    Goal Diff………+15, for 3rd place….Last year -14 for 29th place.

  24. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Five positives this season.

    1) Andrei Markov. It has become normal to see him playing and expect him to handle hard hits. He is playing well and lots (26 minutes against Boston)

    2) Organizational Structure. Fans have confidence in the organization from Molson right down to Therrien.

    3) Gallagher. If he plays the last 20+ games with DD and Patch he could nab a Calder nomination.

    4) Price. He makes the Habs the envy of the entire league for long term goal-tending stability.

    5) Pacioretty. Is he even better than we thought?

    May as well make it 10…

    6) PK. Great contract, two more years to prove himself. Played 26 solid minutes vs Boston and is being creative in a much more safe way as of late. Keeps getting better.

    7) DD. He continues to amaze and excite me.

    8) Prust. Brings something special every night. Leads a 1st place club in plus/minus.

    9) Galchenuk. Earned a spot in the bottom 6 on a 1st place club as an 18 year old (now 19)…. Impressive.

    10) Peter Budaj. Now the games Price doesn’t start aren’t wasted.

  25. Loonie says:

    So here’s the public breakdown of what happened with the Habs and Lecavalier.

    During the 2009 season Gainey and Lawton discussed a deal that Gainey believed was done but needed ownership approval. The deal was for Plekanec, Gorges and Higgins.

    Lawton pulled out after giving verbal confirmation that a deal was done and shopped Lecavalier to other teams.

    Gainey was obviously furious and detailed the talks in his state of the team address.

    During the draft in that off-season they did in fact do a deal for Lecavalier AGAIN. Same package with Halak added to it. Oren Koules and Brian Lawton signed off on the deal. When Len Barrie found out about the trade after it was agreed to he went nuts and vetoed the trade.

    Edit: Lecavalier did not veto this trade because he didn’t have a choice. His NTC kicked in on July 1st of that off-season. The irony is that Koules is a tv producer and Barrie a hockey man.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I knew it was an owner who nixed it. Like i said below that guys should be getting a christmas card. That would have been an awful deal for the habs

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • The Jackal says:

      Yeah, that would have been a bad deal for us.
      Good thing they nixed it!

    • 24 Cups says:

      The contract aside (I know, I know) that deal would have been fine for the Habs.

      Gorges would have been replaced by McDonagh due to the fact that there would be no Gomez trade. Higgins did go in the Gomez trdde so that’s a wash. People will say that Pleks is as good as Vinny today but you also have to consider what Vinny would be bringing to Montreal at that point in time. You also have to take into account that no one knew that Lecavalier would turn out to be a bit injury prone.

      Gainey came damn close to fixing the problem at center.

      • Loonie says:

        I agree Steve. And also say that Gorges while valuable is easily replaceable. Not a knock on him, just a reality in terms of what he brings to the team.

  26. rhino514 says:

    Anyone know when the trade deadline is this season?

  27. Hobie Hansen says:

    People are mentioning goon tactics and enforces and blah, blah, blah.

    I heard comments coming from the Bruins dressing room last night after the game that they all stick up for each other, it’s all about the team an on and on.

    Sound kinda similar to what Michel Therrien is preaching except that the Bruins have more size and strength than the Habs so it’s a bit more noticeable when they stick up for a teammate.

    When the Bruins stick up for a teammate they send people through the wall. I wonder if Habs fans attitude would change if all our guys were 6’4, 6’5 and 6’9 and physically dominated other teams because of it?

    playing the devil’s advocate a bit guys ;-).

  28. NightRyder says:

    “He needs handcuffs on him.”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hImezA0nbDU
    Play this guy only against the Bruins and Leafs in the regular season.

    And how about our fella Prust standing up for his teammates:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h0l6cHy3AQ

    Guy’s a freak.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_104ZMtse3g

    I just want a crazed fellow like this somewhere in the system. Nothing strikes more fear into another team than a guy who they can’t predict what he will do. Running goalies, randomly jumping guys. Doesn’t have to be McIntyre, just a similar wild man.

    • Danno says:

      Prust Never Sleeps

      ________________________________________

      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

    • piper says:

      I’ve been hoping Habs management would go after this guy for a year or two now. It’s not fair to Prust to be expected to take a beating from the heavies game in game out.

  29. The Jackal says:

    Does anyone know what happened when we tried to trade for Lecavalier?

    Did he not want to come here or was the deal not good enough?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      One of the two owners at the time kyboshed the deal.

      We should send that owner a Christmas card

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • shiram says:

      I thought it was the league that x-nayed the deal?

    • Bill says:

      It is said that he refused the trade. I would be grateful for that, except it made Gainey panic and trade for Gomez instead … at least Gomez was shorter term.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Loonie says:

        He didn’t have a choice. His NTC wasn’t in effect. It was a dispute between Len Barrie and Oren Koules. Essentially only one of the two owners agreed to the deal(and did so behind the other’s back), Lawton confirmed the trade with Gainey and when the other owner got wind of it the deal was nixed.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        i regret to my grave the day I hear “Gainey” and “panic” in the same sentence.

        Oh the twists of fate.

  30. 24 Cups says:

    Lecavalier’s total NHL salary will be 121M once he finishes his career.

  31. Propwash says:

    Julien at the presser.

    http://i.imgur.com/t5BwT.gif

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  32. dorvalhabsfan says:

    I think people misunderstand the deterrent a goon offers…. He does not offerr a detterent by giving people this Mindset “oh hey i dont wanna fight their fighter, i might lose”

    The deterrent is

    “man i shouldnt take cheap shots….. our star player might leave the game with a broken bone”

    I dont condone headhunting, but i am of the mantra “Fight fire with fire.”

    Would Marchand take a slash at gallaghers face, knowing that Goon Y will
    A:Run after marchand until marchand runs out of ice?
    B: Tyler Seguin gets absolutely destroyed via fight, or a cheap shot of equal dirtiness,

    Go Habs Go

    • Loonie says:

      Hence Trevor Gillies. He will elbow or punch anybody in the head at any given time, will cross check a player from behind at any point.

      He just doesn’t seem to care.

      • shiram says:

        Subban would be figthing him in practice all the time!

      • Luke says:

        He’s seriously unhinged.

        His actions leading up to his 10 & 11 game suspension were frightening.
        If the NHLPA is worried at all about the mental health of their players, he’d be a guy they should place under supervision.

        I’m afraid We’ll be reading very sad tributes to him in the coming years.

      • NightRyder says:

        Yup, see my point above with McIntyre. It’s not necessarily about being worried about losing a fight, it’s the fear of not knowing when you might get a stick down your throat because you look at him funny. They can’t play, so they’re virtually useless as a regular on the big club. But having a guy to slot in 10-20 games a year to send specific messages is never, ever a bad idea. I still remember John Kordic jackhammering lefts off the leatherface of Jay Miller. Good times.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      Marc Savard

    • krob1000 says:

      MArchand stuck Prust in the face, Seguin still got whacked. Ryan White is as muhc of a deterrant in the sense you mention as anyone…what he did was just like Chara…
      The game is what it is…a game that wants violence but not the results of violence….
      I find it great thought that smaller players are starting to find their place in the game again though….

    • Timo says:

      Don’t need a goon for that. Just need Matt Cooke type of player.

    • Luke says:

      Emelin gave the stick to Seguin against the Bruins and they have the gooniest of teams.

  33. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    I think it’s definitely time for Moen to watch a game from the paper airplane hangar. Give Blunden a chance,he can’t do any worse. That little extra grit is needed for these games and it’s sad to see it floating around not hitting.

    • dorvalhabsfan says:

      Get rid of Colby, call up Blunden

    • Curtis O Habs says:

      It`s time for Moen and Webber to play a game in a Florida uniform in exchange for George Parros.

      • boing007 says:

        Teddy Purcell.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        George Parros sucks.

        25 hits in 20 games…and a whopping 2 points

        Moen has 34 hits in 21 games and 4 points plus Moen can play penalty kill when needed. He isn’t a liability on the ice

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • Curtis O Habs says:

          I`m guessing Moen gets more ice time and Parros would not be here to kill penalties.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I know Curtis but my point is that Moen is a lot more valuable than Parros. Parros isn’t even a good scrapper anymore. They could have picked up McGratten off the waiver wire if they were looking for a goon. That way you don’t give anything up.

            I am all for another tough forward but they have to be able to play. Look at what Prust has brought to the team….He can do a lot more than fight and it is helping this team

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • Curtis O Habs says:

            Chris Stewart in St.Louis seems to fit that bill, but the price would be too steep. Parros could fill a void and probably be had for a fringe player. As I understand it, the Habs did put a claim in on McGratton.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I thought it was Tom Sestito that they missed out on cause Van city nabbed him first

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • Curtis O Habs says:

            Yeah, I think your your right, my mistake. But it`s still a claim on a goon, right? I don` t know much about Sestito. Isn`t he a DJ?

          • Kooch7800 says:

            Tiesto LOL

            Sestito actually has some skill as well. He is no all star but has more offensive upside than Perros or McGratten. He could play on the third line if needed.

            Vancouver was smart to nab him

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • LA Loyalist says:

        Why did Parros leave Ducks? I should know, but I don’t. He was quite prominent in their kids marketing etc., anyone know?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I like Moen a lot, but I think i yelled at Moen to “HIT SOMEBODY” about six times last night.

    • Luke says:

      I just don’t understand the call for Blunden. I have nothing against the guy…but seriously, the guy’s a medicore AHL player.

      • Bill says:

        Fans love a guy with heart, and he does have that. Same reason everyone loves Staubitz.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • Luke says:

          They’ll love him until Grabner blows by him for two.

          Then it’ll be:
          “Why is this AHLer on our roster. MT & MB are brutal. Trade Blunden for Parros or Crosby!!”

          Hey, I cheer for guys like Blunden, I am happy he’s had success as a Professional hockey player. He just seems to be a poor-man’s Blake Geoffrion. (Who I hope recovers and can continue).

  34. Loonie says:

    Max Pacioretty is your first star of the week in the NHL.

  35. shiram says:

    As any team built a roster to deter the Bruins from gooning it up and playing their brand of hockey?
    Some could say the Sabres have done so with Scott, I’d tell those people to look at where the Sabres are in the standings.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Yup, that’s the entire reason Buffalo is in where they are in the standings. Scott destroyed them!

      • Bill says:

        No … but it does go to show you that even having the best goon in the NHL isn’t going to make a positive difference for your hockey club.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

      • shiram says:

        Sure that’s a weak argument, there are many other reasons for the Sabres to be where they are.
        Still does not answer the first question, has any team built a roster that could stop the Bruins from playing their goonish game??

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Lets break it wide open and get the old goon debate going, I can just sense it exploding! Should be good for about 50 comments ;-).

          • shiram says:

            It’s being brought up again that we should get someone to deter the Bruins from gooning it up against the Habs.
            I think it’s fair to ask if that has been done before, and if so was it successful outside of playing that one team….

        • Kooch7800 says:

          no. Even Philly is less goonish currently. The way to beat Boston….play smart and don’t try and out muscle them. Just play smart hockey.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • Sal from the Hammer says:

            The best way to break the cycle of goon hockey, is for a skilled team to win the SC. We are in a cycle of goon hockey, because the Goouins won a cup. Plus the NHL endorses goonery to sell that brand south of the boarder.

          • Sal from the Hammer says:

            Yes

    • Sal from the Hammer says:

      True that Shiram. I never believed that quality NHLers can be intimidated by goonery. The smallish Habs took virtually these same Goouins to seven games, and, lost on pure unadulterated crap luck, and the Cronies in the NHL front office. They were a hairs breadth from elimination by a team, many thought of as smurfs. Daddy Campbell stepped up to the plate, and, the rest is history!!

  36. Dr.Rex says:

    The more Boston hate towards us just means they see us as a threat. YOu dont worry about teams that dont challenge you/ TO resort to this nonsense means they are not sure what to do on the ice other then punch and snarl.

    • Loonie says:

      Very true. At a time in the not so distant past I actually felt bad for the Bruins.

      That was the Thornton and Bourque Bruins though.

    • Buzz Lightbeer says:

      Exactly. And it must do wonders for the teams confidence knowing that they took the best/worst the Bruins could throw at them and come out with 2 points.

    • Bill says:

      There is nothing I’d like better than a Habs-Boston series this year, and it could happen easily. I can definitely see Montreal and Boston finishing 4-5 and meeting in the first round. I’d love it.

      Either team could win it and you know it’d be a war. The last series between those two was fantastic, and would’ve been perfect if the Habs could’ve squeezed out that OT win. Or if Ryder hadn’t made that save, lol.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • HABSsince92 says:

        Who do you have winning the division then?

        Prob. not Buffalo so Toronto? Ottawa – Spezza, Karlsson?

        ____________________________________________________

        PK please sign.

        • Bill says:

          I like Toronto for the division. To be knocked out first round by the Flyers in a brutal war of attrition.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • The Jackal says:

            Toronto for the division. Hello… Bill? That you?

          • Bill says:

            I would love for them to win the division, get beat in the first round, and have a lousy draft pick.

            Is it likely? Ok, I suppose not, haha.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • HABSsince92 says:

            That’s actually not a bad idea…………having them get a bad draft pick and getting bounced in the 1st round.

            ______________________________________________________

            PK please sign.

      • lavie says:

        Who’s between the pipes? Carey or Peter?

        • Bill says:

          Haha. With all due respect to Budaj, who is an excellent goalie – just like the other 60 guys who were good enough to make the NHL this year – he’s not gonna be starting any playoff games for the Habs!

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • TheLogician says:

            pretty sure they were saying the same thing about halak heading into the playoffs a few yrs ago.

            Price should and will get the start. question is whether he maintains it.

          • Bill says:

            No, Halak had already displaced Price by the playoffs. He started the playoffs for the Habs and it was well known that he would.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • TheLogician says:

            edit: heading into the season.

            and when he did get his chance in the playoffs, it didn’t go all that well (game 4 (??) of caps series i think, the game after the one they pulled halak?)

      • CalgaryHab says:

        If they meet it will be in round 2 or 3. With both teams playing the way they are they will finish in the upper half of teams going to the play-offs with one of them winning the division

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Boston and Montreal finishing 4-5 would mean Toronto or Ottawa won the division.

        Impossible.

        We could I guess finish 8th if we go into a tailspin, and meet the first place Bruins.

      • habaholic68NJ says:

        I’d prefer a conference final rather a 4 and 5 match-up

        *Listen to my instrumental tribute entitled “Habs at War” at http://petertoliasmusic.site11.com/Music_Site/OtherOriginalMusic.html

  37. dorvalhabsfan says:

    I say a game like this best describes the need for a goon who can only play a few minutes a game…

    We were lucky not to have Emelins face destroyed.
    We were lucky not to have any concussions due to hits from behind near the boards.
    we were lucky not to have any broken helmets due to axes being swung
    we were lucky that none of our players got absolutely reemed by a body check.

    Prust can and will fight anyone on Boston, but that is a moral boost for fans and players, sort of like a inconsequential victory, becaus Lucic, Chara, and whatever other Boston player is feeling tough with all these people on the ice with them, will still take runs at our skilled guys knowing that the fight is literally a cakewalk.

    We need a player who can and will take situations like this in his
    own hands, much the same way Chara did. and we need that player to be able to inflict pain (not injure him but bloody him up) and if this happens at the cost of an instigator+game misconduct so be it.

    Let Boston Turtle from our very own Brock Lesnar.. Keep him in the box for relevant games (TO, Boston, Philly) because as much as such a player won’t help us win… He will prevent our players from taking a shot like Zednik playing against McLaren, and possibly ending a career.

    Go Habs Go

    • Bill says:

      It’s a nice dream, but there is no player in the NHL who will deter other teams from taking shots at players.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Loonie says:

        I beg to differ. Trevor Gillies makes me want to crap myself and I’m not an NHL player obviously.

        He’s scary.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          I’ve been calling for us to sign him.

          And I’m against fighting!

          • Bill says:

            Would he not have to go through waivers to sign with the Habs?

            EDIT: Looks like he signed a one year in the KHL, so he couldn’t sign this year. He could be signed next year … but he’s also kind of a psycho, total loose cannon. When the Islanders waived him, nobody claimed him. Tells you something.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Loonie says:

            He’s a bad man. A very bad man.

            He should be the last resort. If he doesn’t scare opposing players out of taking cheap shots nothing will.

            Edit: I would be okay with the Habs trading for him and telling him to be himself. Other teams’ players would wind up very hurt. I see he’s in the KHL, DAMN.

          • shiram says:

            I doubt Bergevin would introduce such a wild cannon into his team.

      • Timo says:

        Maybe George Laraque on a beef diet?

      • dorvalhabsfan says:

        Well yeah, Laraque deterred people… but then he went softie… Im positive that as long as we get someone a little bigger and a little heavier then Bostons goons (except Chara but we can find someone somewhere on this planet) and you give one or 2 a bloody nose, even if they dont want to fight. Im sure they will be deterred in the future

        Go Habs Go

    • shiram says:

      Boston lost the game partly because their biggest player went on a rage and was sat for 17 minutes, giving the Habs the chance to play their game and score.

      • adamkennelly says:

        biggest player also happens to be their best and most valuable player…we lucked out cause if it would have been Thornton who went after Emelin – then Emelin takes a beating and Chara gets to play.

    • Cal says:

      Ask Marc Andre Savard how having a team of heavyweight goons saved his career.
      Toughness is important. It’s just not as important as 2 points or a playoff spot.

    • Luke says:

      I’ll have to disagree.

      What last night it did show is that goons are useless.

      With a metal plate in his face and arguably the toughest guy in the NHL on the ice, non-fighter Emelin crosschecked one of the most skilled guys on the opposite team. A team filled with big tough guys all willing to scrap.
      And none of them prevented Emelin from taking a “cheap shot” at Seguin.

      How will a goon prevent anything?

      Let’s say that John Scott is on the Montreal Canadiens. He is most likely on the bench… so how does he stop Chara?
      Emelin still crosschecks Seguin and Chara still skates up ice and pounds Emelin. Scott’s still on the bench.
      Maybe Therrien gets and taps Scott for the next shift. Maybe Scott fights Thornton. What’d that prove?

      • dorvalhabsfan says:

        They stop Chara by breaking Bergerons face…. its not a deterrent for Chara, but its a deterrent because you have to be careful for retribution

        Go Habs Go

        • Luke says:

          Now you want some plug on your team to intentionally injure someone else… all the while complaining about people who try to injure your players… as they say… Live by the sword, die by the sword.
          Sure, a goon busts up Bergeron’s face, but you’ll be here complaining that filthy Marchand intentionally kneed Galchenyuk and now he’s having his second knee operation.

          No one deters anyone. Emelin proved that definitively last night.

      • adamkennelly says:

        the players have to police themselves- having a real heavy weight in our line-up- makes these guys think a little bit longer before doing something stupid….cause maybe, just maybe – one of their players might be subjected to the same kind of behavior.

  38. Bripro says:

    I do feel bad for one Bruins’ fan.
    If you guys all watched last night, on a few occasions as they went to commercial, they showed a young boy with glasses, and his husky father next to him. As the night went on, in an ever-increasing drunken stupor, he made more and more of a fool of himself, and in the last frame that they showed them, the poor kid, being jostled back and forth by his father… you could read his lips:
    “Dad, please! Stop it!”
    His dad must have had 150 lbs on him, but it didn’t matter.
    I figured he was probably related to Chara.

    • Danno says:

      It must be a very shallow gene pool in Boston

      ________________________________________

      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

      • Bill says:

        Bostonians have a lot in common, lol. Like last names, 1st cousins, and DNA. They’re all descended from a few dozen 17th-century Irishmen.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Komihater says:

      LMAO i saw that too. Kid looked like he hated his dad and just wanted to be left alone.

      • Chuck says:

        We need to find the kid and send him a Hab jersey.

        ___________________________________________________
        Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • Luke says:

      HAHAHAHA

      I saw the exact same thing and felt sorry for the kid too.

      Maybe, despite his father, the kid’s got a chance…

    • flowerpower_74 says:

      Maybe the son will become a HABS fan for life!!

      “Claude Julien can whine all he wants because that’s what defeated Bruins do. ” J.T. aka Leigh Ann Power

  39. Dr.Rex says:

    Random Monday thoughts;
    1) WE beat the Bruins. And we did it with class.
    2) Talking about embellishing…..cough cough Seguin
    3) Kaberle looked half decent…….Might be the best trade time
    4) Claude Julien is a complete bozo. How are socially challenged players like Marchand supposed to mature with that boob mentoring him.
    5) Marchand is classless.
    6) When Milbury is the most chemically balanced analyst in Boston you know you have a zombie problem.
    7) Loved it when Gally gave Marchand a huge smile when the rat was trying to trash talk.
    8) Lucic has one nasty ass mug. IT would make a nice ashtray.
    9) Gotta give props to EMelin to stand in there. Ive seen alot bigger guys turtle against that creature.
    10) GO Habs…..They deserve nothing but props for their play last night. Boston needs to learn to be humble. HAHA like thats possible.

  40. Timo says:

    Re Lecavalier – what if Tampa eat a significant portion of his salary and Habs’ hit is say around 3 mil? Do we like it then?

  41. habsgod says:

    marchand and cry baby claude have room to talk! marchand is one of the biggest cheap shot artists in the league if he’s so eager to fight why won’t he fight prust! he’d get his ass kicked but good! he talks about guys running away he needs to be shown the video from a few years back when lucic turned coward and run and hid from georges laraque when he wanted to fight him, he run and hid behind chara and shawn thorton ,and thornton instead fought laraque and get his ass whipped by geaorges laraque while the gutless coward lucic hid! lucic only fights guys he can beat he won’t fight the true heavyweights in the league in my books that’s a coward and that’s what lucic is!

  42. Mattyleg says:

    There’s something I find a bit strange:
    Boston fans and commentators complaining that Boston gets so many penalties.
    This is a well-written, well-thought-out piece, but it’s incredulous that the Bruins could be ‘unfairly’ assessed so many penalties.

    It clarifies that Julien is not upset because of Montreal’s ‘embelishment’, but instead that he claims that refs’ decisions are based on Boston’s ‘reputation’, and not on the plays on the ice.

    Boston fans seem to think that their players play a tough, physical game, and that the referees are simply out to get them.

    Are there any Boston fans that you have come across who think that their team is undisciplined, and need to dial back their agressive and reckless tendencies?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  43. habitual says:

    A ciouple of pleasureable thoughts:

    While the mighty Bruins whine about “ebellishnments” 4 of them lost a puck battle to 5 foot nothin Desharnais for the winning goal.

    When you add up Komisarik, Lilies, Connolly, and the ripple from Lombardi, the Leafs have almost 17 million bucks in salary not playing.

    Life is good!

    • Cardiac says:

      Last year we had about 17 million in salary on the IR between Campoli, Markov, Gionta and Gomez.

      Of course with Gomez and Campoli, one could make the argument that we were better off without them playing but I digress…

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • Whatever says:

      Did you include the cap hits of Toronto buyouts Tucker and Armstrong?

    • SlovakHab says:

      + Armstrong! that’s almost 18M.

  44. nihilz says:

    Alas, I have watched hockey.

    Wait.. that should be the last line.. lemmy preface and stuff.

    At the begging of the lockout I swore to my own personal deities and spirit guides that I wouldn’t watch any of this shortened bastardized season. I felt appalled and cheated that millionaires and billionaires were fighting over surplus money from our pockets(..again). Aaaaand, robbing us of the game we enjoy getting financially gouged from in process of adoring. Allll this while divvying up accumulated booty from our ill dependencies!! Never.. again.

    Being borderline insane or.. nearly perfect. I take hard line decisions out of principle. I quit the NHL like I just quit smoking. Cold turkey. On a whim. And, more-so from a place of being forthright with ones-self on matters that individuals shouldn’t compromised. Like most political squabbles where fundamentals are compromised and we (average folk) are generally at a loss socially as a result. I yearned for fans everywhere to take the same nihilist approach to the NHL as I did. But, fanatics are just that. Tunnel vision and all, only want another fix or hit or.. goal.

    When this crutch season began I was strong in my morals and devout to my cause. I heard whispers at work of training camp and its progression. This seemed harder to resist than the urge to inhale an ole benson-hedges on a nice day after a satisfying lunch. Time went on and I stood strong. I’d see the backs of news papers on the metro. Gallagher this. Galchenyuk that. Price wow. Prust pow. Temptation all around me like a smokey ‘Moroccan smelling’ room full of women listening Radiohead while drinking Guinness and Johnny Black.

    It was getting tough. My staunchness was beginning to stench. As I had cancelled my RDS in objection and protest. I had no choice but to watch Crosby & co. at Molson’s Centre against our 1st place homies via a poopy stream.. wuw. What a game! What? Bruins.. next day.. hmmm.. Chara vs Emelin. Prust vs Lucic. Pacioretty vs Marchand. Ohh what a rivalry game can do for the spirit.

    This rounds on me – cheers! Light ‘em if you got ‘em. Off to the bathroom. Kung-fu gripper and friends. After the last 15 yrs as a Hab fan its hard to be a hard line fundamentalist looking forward. Bergevin & co with lots of youthful talent on the cusp. Financial molestation is tough to swallow. Big pills, to swallow.. that is. Gotta enjoy the small things. Like clean water, Gov’t subsidized ball-joints for all Montrealers and squeegee punks. Pick your battles wisely. Im hooked again.

    • Cal says:

      Welcome back, nihilz. Unlike you, I am a devout addict. I just don’t buy swag or tickets. This season has been too special thus far to miss out.

  45. Sportfan says:

    However we end this season the fact that MT helped lead this team to first place in the conference is amazing and he has proven that this team can win with what they have with tweaking here or there. The best part is we don’t have to be in a Chicago or Edmonton situation and be stuck in last place forever to change and we aren’t in the situation Calgary is in now and thats a really good thing!

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  46. twilighthours says:

    Lots to be said or written about the lots said and written about last night’s game. But what’s the point?

    I think Mtl beating Bos gets their side a lot angrier than it gets our side if Bos beats Mtl.

    The Boston media really is (are?) special.

    Anyway, great game! Desharnais is such a warrior. Gallagher, Prust, Plex, Gionta, Eller (especially), these guys were so good last night.

  47. Hobie Hansen says:

    “Lecavalier trade talk heats up again in Tampa”

    Lecavalier, who turns 33 in April, would have to waive a no-trade clause. And the Canadiens would be taking on a monster contract. Lecavalier signed an 11-year, $85-million deal with the Lightning that still has seven years remaining with an annual cap hit of $7.72 million.

    ****

    Is this reporter on crack? There is NO WAY in hell Bergevin would pickup that contact! Is there? I’m not completely up to speed with the new CBA, was so/so with the last one, but unless TB eats more than half that salary somehow, I could never see Montreal trying to acquire him? Even at half that salary he’ll be 40-years-old when it’s done! Lecavalier could start dropping right off two or three years from now. And it’s not like he’s even amazing now!

    I don’t get it?

    • Cal says:

      If Bergevin is even contemplating this trade, he would have to be on some serious sh-t. Lecavalier hasn’t been worth it since the Cup win in ’04. Torts burnt him out and the Bolts have been paying a brain-dead type contract ever since.
      One other point. Vinnie has lived his entire adult life in Tampa. He is already richer than a pig in poo and has a Cup ring. Why in hell would he want to come to Montreal and freeze his butt all winter?

    • shiram says:

      He speaks French and was born here and it would eventually help the Bolts, that’s all the sense needed for that writter to make an article about it.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      Looking at today’s poll I would surely hope that the people voting yes aren’t taking contractual status and finances into account.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Didn’t even notice the poll until now. I think the majority of the people that voted “yes” don’t pay attention to the contractual aspect of trades. Or they’re high.

    • Bripro says:

      I wouldn’t worry about it Hobie.
      MB seems to have a good head on his shoulders, and aside from the Cole-for-Ryder trade, which might take a few years to determine the benefits, he won’t be baited by such a monstrous contract.

  48. Habfan10912 says:

    I love the passion of my fellow Hab fans even though I don’t always agree with what they say (or post). That said, I sometimes feel the fan base has too much of a NY Yankee personality where our expectations are so blurred by the success of the past that it borders on arrogant stupidity. I know I’ve been guilty of that myself, especially the stupid part. :) This team has over achieved in EVERY ONES eyes yet here we are today, bitching about this player or that player. I tell Yankee fans all the time that you are so consumed with chasing ghost of the past that you can’t even enjoy the success your team is having in the present. I hope we’re not becoming that here.
    I’ve walked around today with a huge smile on my face loving what this team has accomplished. I love the fact that the Goon Coach in Boston is crying and that Chara had to spend a period of hockey in the penalty box last night. However long this ride is going to last, I’m going to try to enjoy it.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Nicely put, Habfan. I’m pretty ecstatic myself. We should enjoy the ride.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Loonie says:

      You and I had a small but related exchange last week about this. I feel bad for my fellow fans who don’t enjoy each season regardless of the outcome because the ride to the top is the fun part.

      If anyone truly lives and dies with the team and haven’t experienced a Cup victory yet I can assure them based on my experience when I was a young die hard fan that the feeling after reaching the pinnacle isn’t joy, it’s relief. If you enjoy the ride the victory is much sweeter and I found I was much more appreciative when I relaxed and soaked it all in.

      Cheers

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Agreed Loonie. I also think it’s about managing expectations. As hard as it is right now to do that, it feels so much better when they do well, if you don’t expect the world.
        I would honestly be very happy if the Habs finished 7th or 8th and won a round. This is based on what I saw last year. I figure they are somewhat better and likely will not have as many key injuries (knock on wood)….so if they finish anywhere north of 7th, I’ll be very happy, and if they get a bit deeper into the playoffs than I expect, again, ecstacy.
        I’m lovin’ it so far.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Thanks for the excellent post Jim, well said.

    • Sportfan says:

      I agree with you entirely, I’ve said stupid stuff to, but I am trying my best to enjoy this season to the fullest I haven’t worried to much about how everyone is playing. We are winning or at least getting points and its fantastic.

      That year we had the run with Halak I was so happy and even when Philly beat us I was just so proud of what they did and right now I am even more proud of the Habs this season. Its only the Bruin games that make me sick. but I get over it.

      In the Yankees case they had the money to spend with no cap so they still annoy me :P

      http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • Bripro says:

      I know why you’re feeling so euphoric right now.
      You watched a recording of last night’s game, didn’t you? eh…eh?
      Give it a couple of hours, and you’ll be pounding on a few trollish posters!
      :)
      Good job, buddy!

  49. crabvader says:

    Julien talking smack about how our diving is embarrassing to the
    game of hockey…

    This guy just can’t keep his mouth holstered. There’s really nothing else to say other than he and his organization are hypocrites… Calling out another team for doing things your guys do almost every night… there’s the real embarrassment to hockey.

  50. HabinBurlington says:

    Ken Campbell of the The Hockey News with an excellent article on how the NHL is hypocritical on the topic of violence in Hockey.

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/50376-NHLs-violent-culture-encourages-reckless-play.html?

  51. CalgaryHab says:

    Go back a year or so and who would’ve thunk that it would be Therrien as coach and that Habs would be first in the conference winning the type of games they have won.
    Bergevin obviously knew what the hell he was doing – I can’t help to think that his master plan is coming to fruition but on a much quicker timeline. Have a respectable play-off, land a one or two FA’s and a few little tweaks and we’re set.

  52. Kfourn says:

    One thing that drove me nuts in last night’s game was the McQuaid hit on prust, a deliberate interference in plain sight of the ref in the zone, but it was the ref behind the play that made the call. It seemed like the ref behind the play was embarrassed that such a deliberate infraction wasn’t going to get called so he stepped in, but otherwise that might not have been called. This is the type of thing that happens over and over when these two teams face off. It seems that the refs don’t want to penalize the Bruins too much to keep the man advantages even, but they could easily have called 3 or 4 more infractions. A bully team like the Bruins should get a lot more of their infractions called to discourage that type of play instead of trying to keep the calls even for either side.

    _______________________________________________________
    Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

    “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Sadly it is human nature. It is just like Chris Pronger…that guy could get a penalty every shift he is so bloody dirty but the refs don’t call it so he may get one a game for 10 infractions

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  53. HabinBurlington says:

    I suppose I am in the “Pricebot” category, as I happen to think he is an excellent goalie. But I have to believe that Price is blamed for the trading of Halak. The vindictiveness should be aimed at BG and PG rather than Price in my opinion.

    • Loonie says:

      You’re definitely onto something there. The biggest knock on Price is that he isn’t an underdog story like Halak was.

      People fawn over the underdog because they relate to them rather than the 5th overall pick.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        I disagree. I am ok with the trade for Eller. My biggest beef is with Price and his performance vs the praise that gets lavished on him. Frankly, Price would have gotten more value than Halak, Halak would cost us less than $6.5MM.

        • Loonie says:

          Price certainly would have fetched more in a trade.

          Price has comparable statistics to the best goaltenders in the league. Ergo, he is among the best goaltenders in the league.

        • shiram says:

          That’s because Price is better than Halak, and that’s not even considering that Halak is prone to injury.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          You probably preferred Hayward over Roy :-P

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Habsrule1 says:

      There should be no blame or vindictiveness. BG and PG did the right thing.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I am not saying there should be, but rather, if there is going to be this feeling, direct it accordingly. Seems to me that many here are rather giddy at the prospect of Price having a bad game. Just seems odd to me, for example: I liked Erik Cole and how he played for the Habs, but I am not going to hope Ryder fails in order to justify my feeling on the trade. I understand it was a cap related move (or at least I think so) but am not going to blame Ryder.

        • Bripro says:

          Ryder had better pick up his game some, or else the negative comments will be flying ‘a plenty.
          Remember how he played under Carbo?
          I hope we don’t witness that type of performance anytime soon.

        • Bill says:

          Exactly, some “fans” seem to get more enjoyment out of Price having a bad game than a good one. He’s got a lot of haters, and it is precisely because he was a high draft pick with a pedigree.

          Fans love Gallagher partly for his play, but also for his underdog story. Galchenyuk, on the other hand, will be held to a different standard, because he was a third pick.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • boing007 says:

            Haters is a pretty strong word, Bill. Hyberbolic, in fact.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

          • Bill says:

            “Haters” in the conventional modern-slang sense: people who blindly criticize every aspect of another person’s performance/persona. I don’t think it’s hyperbole to say Price has haters in that sense, they are all over this site!

            Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Cal says:

      I am still in the “show me” camp, but this season, other than a couple bad nights, has played very well. I am still waiting for him to be really solid during the playoffs. However, I am hopeful. ;)

      • Habsrule1 says:

        I think given the team Price has had in front of him so far in his career, I’d put him in the “very good” category, with potential to be even better.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Bripro says:

      I think part of the problem is that he’s so technically sound and unassuming that people think he’s an average goalie. He makes difficult saves look easy.
      This year, I’ve counted a few bad goals, but fewer than last year’s game average.
      I guess everyone is looking for the flashy goaltender.

    • Mustang says:

      Burl, you bring up a very interesting point. I had never thought about Price being blamed for the Halak trade as I had always looked at it differently. Going back, Price was going to be #1 no matter what. The trade wass probably the best thing that could have happened to Halak as he was also a #1 goaltender and he simply was not going to get that position in Montreal.

      No matter how well Halak played, he was never given a real shot at being the #1 goaltender in Montreal (you are right, blame the coach or the GM, but not the other goalie) until the 2010 playoffs. Halak was playing very well at the time while Price was not as good as he could be. Therefore Halak got the starting job and the team went further than anyone expected. As we all know, the team finally ran out of gas in the 3rd round.

      With very little fan-fair, the playoff hero, Halak, was then traded to St. Louis right after the playoffs and it just didn’t seem fair. I think that deep down many Price fans probably felt that Halak was not treated very well by the Habs management and of course the Halak fans were up in arms.

      I was sorry to see Halak go but I realize that this was the best thing for him. Price was, and is, our goalie. I have to admit that I take a peak every once in a while to see how Halak is doing but I am a Habs fan and Price is one of our best players. I wish both Price and Halak success. A Montreal – St.Louis playoff final for the Stanley Cup would be most interesting.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree Mustang. I hope Halak continues to play well for St. Louis, he is an excellent goalie. Just seems to me he struggles with the injury bug, unfortunately for him, his playing partner Elliot is really struggling. This is going to increase the pressure on Halak, but I think he will continue to play well for them.

  54. alfieturcotte says:

    Anyone remember the story of Billy Beane as a baseball player? Current GM of the Oakland A’s. He was first rounder by the Mets, considered a five tool, can’t miss prospect by all those scouts. Well, he failed to meet those expectations and had a very undistinguished playing career. Many scouts and numerous dizzy Habs fans (Bill to name one) have willed Price to be a star based on pedigree and potential. Well folks, up to now, he has demonstrated that he is a sound but AVERAGE goalie only. Certainly not worth the superstar status (and $$$) that many give him. I hope he proves this skeptic wrong, but until he does, I don’t buy the hype.

    • Timo says:

      I bought the hype but I sold it since. Didn’t get all my money back either.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The Billy Beane comparison reminds me of a prospect we drafted back in ’83 in the first round. Looked like he would be a great talent, ended up being a bust.

    • Loonie says:

      Career save percentage of .916 and he’s 25 years old.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        As I said sound and average (regardless of age), but certainly not superstar…..

        • Loonie says:

          Shame that having played in 300 games before turning 26 years old and that career save percentage aren’t average.

          • alfieturcotte says:

            Take a look at the stats and tell me where he ranks with that .916 save %, rather tell me how many goalies are ahead of him.

            Oh and in 4 years of playoffs, his numbers slip to .907 including 3 of 4 yeas at or below .900. I would call those playoff stats below average.

          • Loonie says:

            I’m well aware of what the rest of the league’s goaltenders are doing.

            I’ll ask something of you if you think he’s average. Tell me how many goaltenders on teams of equal or comparable quality since Price’s career began have better numbers. And in addition, how many are doing what they’re doing at the beginning of their careers instead of their prime years.

      • Sportfan says:

        I smell another annoying Halak comparison soon -_- Price needs to be left a lone! I hope we win the cup this year with Price so then at least next season when they bitch about Price they talk about a winner!

        http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

        • alfieturcotte says:

          Let me tell you that if Price wins the Cup, he will deserve all the credit that you guys give him. Problem is, he ain’t done nothing yet though the defenders act as if he’s alreay won a couple of Conn Smythe trophies (ahem, not Molson Cup)…..

    • The Jackal says:

      You’re out to lunch man, same old post, different wording.
      Don’t know what Habs team you watch, maybe in a parallel universe where Price is mailing it in, but in the real world, Price is a solid #1 who plays a positional game and doesn’t have to scramble to make difficult saves.
      Every goalie has off nights and lets in bad goals, I don’t get why some people are so excited when it happens to our goalie – are you a fan or what?
      Even Halak has bad games and lets in bad goals. Why can’t we just accept this as a fact.
      Just as every player screws up an assignment or misses a goal, so do goalies have their off days.
      Just move on or cheer for the Blues.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        As usual Jackal, you miss the point….Seldom do I see anything worth reading that comes from your pen.

        • The Jackal says:

          That’s because I seldom write with a pen.

          But it seems that it is you who has missed the point. You keep ragging on Price, undermining his successes and celebrating his faults.
          It’s as if you don’t know that even the best players have bad games. It happens to every player. No need to get all giddy about it happening to someone on your team just to make a point, which is not even on point.

          Regards.

    • Bill says:

      Actually, I was one of the guys who thought they should have kept Halak. No doubt Price went through a rough patch at one time, and Halak was and is a good goalie. I thought the trade was awful.

      Price changed my mind with his play the past two years, that’s all. I don’t care about hype. I’ve watched him play and he looks to be an excellent goalie. One thing I understand is that it’s a team game, and you can’t completely blame the goalie for goals against.

      If you want to jump every time he has a bad game or lets in a bad goal, go ahead, but you’re seizing on outliers and pretending they are the norm, so why should that be taken seriously? What are Price’s numbers this year without his two off games? I’m betting they are pretty “elite”.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  55. Timo says:

    Someone should bait Julien by asking him is Subban is not playing the white way. I am sure he’ll slip.

    • Bripro says:

      It must be the tea in the water.
      I just read an excerpt from the Boston Globe relating to last night, and Subban “hasn’t learned” and is still “up to his old tricks”.
      These people need to learn hockey.

    • alfieturcotte says:

      I agree. I have suspected for a couple of years already that there is a serious racial undertone beneath the Subban resentment by many players.

  56. mrhabby says:

    habs are rolling and its all good. iam not to sure if we match up with the bruins in a 7 game playoff series. Me thinks Bergevin makes more changes before at trade deadline. cap comes down to 64m.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      You are probaly right but we did take them to 7 in ot the year they won the cup.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Not to mention, Pacioretty had been taken out, and it was left unpunished. Remove Chara from the bruins OR add Pacioretty to the Habs and we take that series.
        No doubt in my mind.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  57. shiram says:

    On Cole/Ryder.
    We got the lesser player, and the 3rd round pick likely won’t be much compensation if Cole has 2 more season of about 30 goals.
    But there’s more to it, I feel.

    Renaud Lavoie says Habs leadership were not satisfied with what Cole brought on the ice and the locker room. I can’t find the video, but on the day of Cole’s trade, he mentionned that Cole was divisive in the locker room. Normally I woud not put much weight to this, but from Renaud Lavoie, I have to consider it.

    I think Bergeving/Therrien are going full bore in their restoration project and they thought Cole did not fit in not only cash-wise but also attitude-wise with what they want the Habs to be.

    • Welks says:

      I am not sure that I would consider Ryder the lesser player. Younger, more career 30 goal seasons, more career 20 goal seasons. They are drastically different as players with different skill sets. Ryder has a better shot, better passer, better positional player. Cole is bigger, and better skater. Cole will score 90% of his goals from within a foot of the blue paint. Ryder’s shot is dangerous from everywhere.

      • shiram says:

        Considering the Habs need, a player in Cole’s mould is of better use than one in Ryder’s, that is my opinion.
        Statistically they are about the same in goals per game and points per game, Cole played a little less games due to injury…

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Considering his comments, demeanor and attitude during the lockout, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s divisive in the locker room.

    • jon514 says:

      Just look at Pacioretty’s stats since Cole was traded… The Cole trade was worth it if it got out star LW going!

  58. sCOTT1243 says:

    laffs trade Mike Brown…maybe they realized after last Habs game that having a team full of glove droppers won’t get them far against good teams.

    • Luke says:

      Too bad they got rid of the one who could actually contribute when the gloves aren’t being dropped.

      Likely they realized carrying 4 guys like that isn’t beneficial, but he was the only one with trade value.

    • Sportfan says:

      Maybe getting traded to the Oilers is a weird punishment for the hit on Gorges? :P

      http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Interesting though how these “tough guys” get treated by teams. Brown came back from injury early in order to be in lineup for the Habs game. Then less than week later the team drops him for a mediocre draft pick.

      The Leafs could easily afford to Gomez the Komisarek Contract thus freeing up the roster spot which Brown would occupy. Brown also played very hard for Carlyle when he arrived on the scene in Toronto last year. The thanks Brown gets from Toronto is being traded to one of the worst teams in hockey, where he will have to start all over again proving himself to every western team.

      You know these tough guys get praised and praised for what they do, but they get treated like dog sh$t by the teams.

  59. Luke says:

    Oh, need to throw out this one little word & exclaimation point after the weekend:

    Kaberle!

  60. Loonie says:

    Does anyone even want Lecavalier?

    • shiram says:

      He’s my buddy’s favorite player, he’s actually buying a Bolts jersey with his name on.
      I did not have the heart to tell him about Lecavalier’s contract and possible buyout…

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Without his contract, many teams would want him.

      People make the mistake of confusing him with Scott Gomez. The only problem with Vinny is his contract.

      He’s on pace for a 25 goal 70 point season this year (if there were 82 games). Had 19 points in 18 games in the 2011 playofs.

      But he is owed another $45M and he turns 33 next month.

      No way any team takes him.

      • Loonie says:

        I agree with you. And it’s an unfortunate situation that Lawton was bad at his job because Lecavalier’s an excellent player. But that contract makes Luongo’s look like a dream.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      Maybe if somehow it was for only 2 years at 5 mil/year

      so – NO

  61. rhino514 says:

    Anyone think they will try to look for a LW? They only have one good one right now, with Max Pac. Tough imagining they can get by without help for long.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Bergevin seems patient, I would guess he may wait until the off season. Stalberg, whom he is familiar with is slated to be a UFA at the end of the season. He fits the mold of fast skilled players the Habs like and he is bigger, 6’3″ 209lbs. He isn’t a hitter but would look preety good on the left side on the 2nd line. In time Bozon and Hudon may be 2nd and 3rd line players, but that will be at least 2 years from now in all likelyhood.

      Chicago may sign him, but they still have some big contacts on the books and some kids that can fill his spot. They may also trade hs rights if they think they will lose him, but my guess is that unless a deal too good to refuse comes up, Bergevin will wait!

      Habfan17

  62. habs-fan-84 says:

    haven’t been able to post since the game last night.

    All I can say is, wow, what a game (most entertaining game of the year)!

    What I’m surprised about is the non-sense (read: whining) being spewn from Boston. I can’t believe I’m about to say this, but their fans, team and coach could learn a thing or two from Milbury (wow, that felt really weird to type) after what he said last night.

    Once again those clowns are talking about PK (they’re absolutely obsessed with him). If they want to talk about diving and embellishment look no further than Seguin!

    On a side note, I thought Emelin was going to look like the Terminator after Chara was done with him. Really happy to see Emelin stick up for himself and glad he was back on the ice without any problems afterwards.

    I do have to admit though, I’m a bit nervous for the next match up…the last time we had a game in Boston like last nights, it was the “Beatdown in Boston” a few years ago, Pyatt was beaten with an elbow pad and Spacek was used as a human punching bag…the intensity of that game carried over to the next where the climax ended with Patch laying unconscious on the ice with a broken neck. Honestly, after listening to Julien and his players, I get the sense they’ll be out for blood next game. I’m getting this weird feeling Gallagher is going to be a target…Hope I’m wrong…

    the Habs have proven they can beat these guys with skill, however, if things get out of hand in the next game, I’d feel more comfortable with a true heavyweight in the lineup to help protect guys like Gallagher, Subban, Gally, Pleks. etc.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      The fact that Milbury makes sense tells you how delusional these idiots are. Listening to NESN’s analysis you couldn’t have a rational conversation on what colour the sky is with them.

    • Whatever says:

      I agree, it’s a powder keg.

      Now it’s not okay to even fall when crushed against the boards by one of their players (isn’t that what they want???). It’s ridiculous.

      You can’t stop animals, but maybe you can limit the BS. WTF was that with McQuaid challenging Eller for the great fault of falling down on the ice together? That and Desharnais being cross checked down in front of their net (every bit of force that Emelin used) after Montreal scored. That’s the stuff I’m tired of.

      Prust shouldn’t be on an island.

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        Powder Keg is exactly the way it feels again, I just hope it doesn’t end with one of our Habbies injured for the season…or worse.

      • Chuck says:

        Never mind the 2-handed stick swing that McQuaid missed connecting with just before he cross-checked Desharnais after that goal…

        ___________________________________________________
        Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • Morenz7 says:

      “Spewn:” if that’s not a word, it damn well should be.

    • Bun E. Laroque says:

      Agree with your sentiments. Unbelievable bitching from a team notorious for what they’re accusing the Habs of. Crazy that Milbury is the voice of reason in the delusional Bruins broadcasting world. We don’t have the team to beat them in a street brawl but if we play with the same intensity that the DD Gallagher Pacioretty line did last night we can still beat them on the scoreboard. Perhaps we could acquire one more player to face some of the goons so Prust doesn’t have to do it all (Moen where are you?). Unfortunately, Gallagher is going to have to get used to the attention if he is gonna keep playing the way (so great ) he has been playing. If he is cheap shotted it would be very depressing though.

  63. Sportfan says:

    Everyone saying we won because Chara was gone is the only way we can win is such bs, Bruins fans can never stop acting so butt hurt.

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • chanchilla says:

      that’s not really bs, i doubt Desharnais scores if Chara was on the ice. Fact is, he wasn’t on the ice, and we thrived because of it, i think the game would have played out differently if he werent in the box for 12 minutes of the third period.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      We won despite our best player not on the ice – they lost because their best player is an idiot.
      The fact is without Chara they are a slightly above average team – and without Price the Habs can still compete.

    • Sportfan says:

      I will say that without the big guy out there our chances are much better but we have won many games with him on the team and he made a brain dead move when he decided to take out Gionta and let Plek slide right in

      http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  64. 24 Cups says:

    Tom Jones of the Tampa Bat Times must be on drugs. There is no way that the Habs (or any other team ) is going to trade for Vinny. Tampa is stuck with that deal.

    The real question is does Tampa have the surplus coin to make Lecavalier one of their amnesty buyouts this summer? No chance in hell.

    Seven more years of 7.7M? Only Ovechkin’s contract is more cumbersome.

    • lavie says:

      Too expensive; too long term.

    • krob1000 says:

      how did the league end up in the new cba re absorbing prts of contracts in trades? is that factor in this crazy talk?

    • Whatever says:

      I wrote further down that teams can now trade a player and retain up to 50% of the player’s cap hit.

      Not saying it’s realistic, but some NHL contracts like Vinny’s are not as crippling as they once were.

      • 24 Cups says:

        This response is to everyone. Right now, the team can’t find a spot for Galchenyuk at center. Eventually they will. The other three guys are 30 and under. Where would Vinny fit in? Would we even be discussing this if it wasn’t for the fact that he’s French Canadien?

        It’s funny how it goes. Gainey couldn’t cut a deal for Vinny so the Habs got stuck with Gomez. He’ll be off the books after next year in terms of payroll (already gone cap wise). In a very indirect stretch of rationalization you could also say that Gomez helped bring Galchenyuk to Montreal.

        Some of the best trades are the ones that you don’t make, whether it be four years ago or right now.

        Hey Vinny – You have a Cup ring, 100M and you get to live on the beach during the entire NHL season. What a great gig.

    • habfan53 says:

      Don’t forget DiPietro

      Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • TommyB says:

      24…in response to your comment further down….which player I would rather have in the playoffs would depend on which Eric Cole would have been there. The one who impressed me last year, or the one that showed/did not show up this year? Unfortunately, that is not an answer we are going to get. I wish Cole all the best in Dallas, and now I wish Ryder all the best in Montreal. Ryder may be a very useful player in the playoffs, and one thing is certain…he can’t hurt. When D tightens up in the playoffs a team will need as many scoring threats as it can get. Ryder has been a sniper in the past. Hopefully, he will be able to provide something of that sort again. Time will tell.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Time will tell, indeed. If one of Kristo or Collberg makes the Habs full time in the next two years then this deal is acceptable. If not, there is going to be a big hole on the team. Time will tell.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I am so glad that Tampa has that problem. In a sport with so many serious injuries, I have no clue why any team gives out deals longer than 6 years. Look at what has happened with Dipietro, Ovechkin, LeCavalier, and does anyone believe that Kovulcuk will be worth it long term? These are guys with almost lifetime contracts. What about contracts like Gomez, Penner, and the others whhere the term was not as long, but they never played to their contracts. Myers is struglling in Buffalo, what if ends up never reaching the level they projected?

      Habfan17

      • boing007 says:

        Tampa is one of the highest scoring teams and so far have only 19 points. They need some defensive help. Purcell, anyone?
        Position: RW ▪ Shoots: Right
        Height: 6-2 ▪ Weight: 201 lbs.
        Born: September 8, 1985 (Age 27)
        He’s also a Newfoundlander.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  65. sCOTT1243 says:

    Sorry guys a little off topic but was wondering if you guys could help me with a few answers….Heading to MTL March break, unfortunately habs arent in town :(

    Anyway:
    1) Best place to watch habs game with a little one (5 yrs old). Staying at the Sheraton Centre ville. Cage au sport next to Bell Centre?

    2) Is the Bell Centre Tour worth it? Do you see dressing room etc? Want to bring my little guy to the Hall of fame and Habs store while mommy is at the spa.

    Darn kid surrounded by Leafs fans all the time here in Toronto, need to get the Montreal spirit in him quickly!

    *to clarify below response…He was born a habs fan! No choice in that matter, grandpa and I made sure of that. We also returned his other grandpas leaf pjs that were a gift to him. Not in my house!

    Thanks!

    • Bill says:

      Bell Centre tour is well worth it, especially if your little guy is a Habs fan (I assume he is, haha!)

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • habfan53 says:

      For ten years I took a group to Montreal for a game and tour of the Bell Centre (previously the Forum) and a VERY BIG YES to the tour.
      We did not tour the dressing room as it was the morning of games and the players were there. However we did see almost every thing else

      Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • GGtheHab says:

      le cage aux sport is a family sports style restaurant, plenty of tvs, and a good menu. close to the sheraton.. ate their sat before the pens game.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Tour is great.
      You don’t get into the dressing room, but there’s a replica of the Forum dressing room in the HoF. Definitely worth the visit!

      Not sure what places would allow you to take kids in. Cage maybe…

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • sCOTT1243 says:

        Thanks guys, definitely going to do the HOF, the site is sketchy in respect to the actual guided tours…

        Man I wish Habs were in town would have been great to bring the little guy…growing up in Montreal and my dad having seasons was just awesome. Regardless he’ll be happy to see the Bell Centre.

        Cage looks to be good for families, thanks for the advice!

  66. TommyB says:

    Halfway through this 48 game schedule, the Habs are not only first in the Division, but first in the Conference. Yet, Carey Price sucks…Ryder sucks…and so on. LMFAO

    In defence of Michael Ryder, not that he needs to be defended after just two games with this team, the guy has yet to find his comfort zone here. Two games! A different system than what he was being asked to play in Dallas! I think the man deserves a little bit more respect.

    Carey Price, a goaltender being touted as Canada’s starter in the next Olympics, but he is not good enough for some fans of the first place in the East Montreal Canadiens. Incredible.

    • Loonie says:

      I agree with the rope Ryder should get but anybody pretending that he’s more than a goal scorer is kidding themselves.

      He isn’t good defensively, isn’t physical, isn’t fast and his passing slightly above average at the NHL level.

      It’s okay for him to just be a goal scorer. Worked out well for Brett Hull.

      • TommyB says:

        If that’s the role he is being asked to play, then there is nothing wrong with having a goal scorer who doesn’t do much else. But I still think it is too early to label him as anything just yet. I know you are not making your statement on these two games he has played with the Habs to date, but on his career to date, and I respect that. I just feel the jury needs to sit a bit longer before it can decide what kind of a player Michael Ryder is for the Habs this year. If he turns out to be a bust, Bergevin will move on.

        • Loonie says:

          I agree with you and that’s why I really don’t have an opinion about the trade other than the long term benefit financially.

          If Cole plays really well for the Stars for two years beyond this one and no adequate replacement is on the Habs roster it will prove to be a bad move but it’s far too premature for that kind of talk.

          • TommyB says:

            I didn’t like the trade when it was announced, but looking at it business-wise after time to digest it, I decided it was an OK deal. Other than that, like you, I really have no opinion on the trade. But having said that, I see no reason yet to rip on Ryder. We’ll see how it works out.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Tommy – I agree, I felt the same way.

            I guess the big question is now that the Habs will make the playoffs, which guy would you rather have this spring in the post season?

      • SteverenO says:

        Why do you say that Ryder is so bad defensively? I have not seen any stats that bear that out.

        So far thi sseason Ryderhas benenon the ice for 295 minutes of even strength and 9 goals scored against during that time.

        In less minutes, 263, Erik Cole has been on the ice for 11 goals against.

        last season the numbers showed that Ryder was equal or better than»Cole as well. Ryder 50 goals against in 1204 minutes average of one goal per 24 minutes.

        Cole 58 goals agianst in 1239 minutes average one goal against every
        21 minutes.

        So the only person who is kidding themselves is you, Loonie.

        While you,as everyone else here, are entitled to your opinion,
        would you please be so kind as to indicate that you are stating your opinion (e.g. I don’t think Ryder is good defensively) rather than stating it as if its a fact.

        You obviously don`t have have a clue what you are writing about.

        regards,

        Steve O.

        • Loonie says:

          Thanks for the input SteveO.

          Ryder has never been used regularly on a penalty kill during his entire career.

          I didn’t say he was bad defensively, I said he wasn’t particularly good defensively.

          Cole’s defensive ability actually has nothing to do with Ryder’s by the way and in addition goals against per time on ice would be an accurate measure of one’s defensive abilities if there weren’t four other skaters on the ice with that player at even strength.

          If you’re going to lecture me the least you can do is avoid putting words in my mouth.

          It’s easy to say somebody’s wrong when you change their opinion for them.

          Thanks

          • SteverenO says:

            Sorry if I offended you, Loonie. Was having a bad day.
            The truth is that you said <blockquote cite=" He isn’t good defensively, isn’t physical, isn’t fast and his passing slightly above average at the NHL level."

            I wanted to point out that he is NOT and, has never been a defensive liability (except for one very bad season in 2006/2007 where he was a minus 25, curiously that wsa also the only season where he actually played any significant minutes on the penalty kill).

            In my opinion, minutes played per goal allowed is a very accurate measure of one defensive abilities over a large enough number of games. Most goals in the NHL are a direct result of a defensive mistake, the players who are prone to committing mistakes see a lot of goals scored against while they are on the ice.

            Anyway, sorry for being "nasty", I juts happento think that Ryder is an excellent two way hockey player. i was sorry the HABs let him go when they did, and glad that they got him back.

            regards,

            Steve O.

    • billylove says:

      Yeah, I can’t believe there are so many bitching! This team is a frickin joy ride to watch.

      • TommyB says:

        Definitely fun to watch. These guys find a way to get it done almost every game. In previous years, with the Habs down two goals, I might be inclinded to do some channel surfing. That ain’t happening this year.

    • lavie says:

      Ryder is still the same Ryder and he will be fine.

      Price’s main issue is still the “Laziness”, which needs to be modified and refined by himself and his goaltending coach.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I disagree that we’re in first.
      I REFUSE TO LOOK ANYTHING UP THAT MIGHT PROVE ME WRONG!!!

      Yours, etc.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  67. Bripro says:

    Looking at the hit on Richards by Kaleta, (which makes me cringe) I wonder when the NHL will start taking drastic measures to curb several dangerous situations.
    For instance, why isn’t there “no-touch” icing yet?
    And (I’ll probably get ridiculed for this) I think there should be a different coloured line a few feet from the boards. From that point on, there will be no checking.
    I don’t think it’ll slow the game down, and it will certainly make it safer for the players.

    • chanchilla says:

      … so you can skate in this zone untouched, that sounds like a ridiculous idea.

      • Bripro says:

        Got a better one?
        It’s easy to ridicule someone else’s ideas….come up with one that’s synonymous with player safety.

        • Habfan17 says:

          I agree with you, it is easy to ridicule, not so easy to find answers, although I think I found at least one in my post to your original comment.

          Habfan17

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Give players like Kaleta 20-40 games instead of 2-4 for those kinds of hits.

        • chanchilla says:

          Hockey is a physical game, no touch icing makes sense, but removing the ability to check people is unrealistic. Player safety needs to come from the disciplinary committee, start handing out 10 game suspensions instead of 1 or 2, and you’ll end the knee on knee/boarding plays pretty quickly.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I think if they would just start calling boarding and charging the way it is written, it would stop a lot of the crap and potential injuries.

      I played competative hockey from 8 years old to 19 and if a player took 3 steps or more and hit someone, it was charging. if they hit someone on the boards going full tilt, it was boarding and depending on how hard you came in it was a minimum 2 minutes, and could be the game. Charging too!If they called it, the other dmen would not have to” pick” onrushing players to hold them up and less players would be injured and the number of concusions would go down.

      Maybe they need to sew big STOP badges on the backs of the jersey’s like the kids do!

      Habfan17

  68. lokojj says:

    Not sure if this has been posted before.
    Couldn’t not sign up to share it!

    Laughing at the Bruins by Jon Stewart

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=npn0dyhSyr0

  69. habfan53 says:

    OK for every body out there calling for trading to get this player or that D-man for the playoffs. Lets go back 6 weeks who seriously had Montreal higher than 6-7th SERIOUSLY. Probably get thru 1st round and lose in the 2nd? That was 6 weeks ago.
    Now nearing the 1/2 way point Montreal sits 1st in the East do we really think they are cup ready? only a player or two away ?
    I am willing to wait an extra year instead of sending prospects away for a short term rental player that might get us to the 3rd round.

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • Loonie says:

      The dilemma facing every competitive Eastern conference team is that if they can compete with the Bruins, Rangers, Flyers and Penguins they’re in a position to make the Cup Finals.

      It would be very difficult to avoid making moves to improve present day team if the current group is capable of beating those teams.

      And this team is capable.

      • habfan53 says:

        Of the four teams you’ve mentioned there are 3 different styles.
        Bruins and Flyers; Rough hard hitting take the body style (like the Leafs.
        Rangers more of an older style not unlike Montreal’s.
        And the Penguins are a run and shoot as they displayed Saturday night.
        So it is not just one player or one style.
        Therrrien has them playing out of the gate and is getting the oposition to play his game.

        Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • Luke says:

      To paraphrase C. Montgomery Burns:

      I’d trade them all away for someone just a little bit better.

  70. christophor says:

    One more goalie myth worth busting: he just doesn’t have that fight that Roy and Thomas had; he doesn’t just refuse to let a puck in.

    This is absurd; it’s a purely emotive response that unfortunately many are paid to express (e.g. Jack Todd in his article today). In fact, I’d argue that if Price were to lose his cool, it would be worse. He’d be less meticulous about his style, which is a percentage game and a matter of carefully anticipating the play and readjusting. He does this better than most I’ve seen. A lot of that ‘fight’ that isn’t there in Price’s game is actually Price being adjusted for cross-crease passes that others would have to dive to get in front of. “Fighting” is sub-optimal.

    Unfortunately, a large portion of the fanbase needs behaviour from their goalie that they can connect to emotionally, and since they don’t find that in Price, they knock his game.

    • Sal from the Hammer says:

      Well said Chris. See my post below. We are on the same page Brotha!

      • Loonie says:

        This might be speaking out of turn but I don’t believe you are on the same page. You’re saying Price gets a deer in the headlights look about him when things aren’t going his way and christophr is saying he’s staying composed instead of going into a shell or losing his temper.

        Unless I’m misunderstanding one of the posts.

        • Sal from the Hammer says:

          It would appear Chris has a better handle on the terminology and mechanics of goaltending than I do. I agree completely with his analysis. In a way I think we are saying the same thing, only Chris is better at describing it than I am. I was referring to our mutual respect for his talent, and, the way his skills gets misinterpreted by fans. He does occasionally require adjustments to his game insofar as, for example, he might be suseptable to keeping his glove hand too low, as Jack Todd pointed out in his column. All goalies can let bad habits creep into their game, and, in Carry’s defense, when a problem occurs in the middle of a game it’s hard to make a readjustment midstream. That’s when it I thought the “deer in the headlight” analogy is appropriate, but, I could have used a better way to describe it. Kind of like if you golf, and, all of sudden you can’t hit a ball. Sometimes a trip to the driving range helps, other times, you need the aid of a pro. Just saying that if Carry has a flaw in his game, like any young goalie, it’s a tendency towards bad habits, and, that’s where coaching, practice, and the maturing process can be benificial. I have all the faith in the world in Carey Price. We are very lucky to have the center piece the Habs for a long time to come!

    • Loonie says:

      That’s the best summation I’ve seen on this issue so far.

      • Gerry H says:

        I agree. Price’s strength is a studied, cerebral approach to the technical aspects of the game – positioning, rebound-control, mobility and puck-tracking. He isn’t an acrobat like Crozier or Dryden were and he doesn’t have the Jedi-like reflexes of a Hasek or Thomas.

        I think a lot of the flak he takes is because of how easy he makes it look. Pucks just hit him. But it’s no accident. His big body is certainly a part of that, but it’s mainly about knowing how to be in the most likely path of incoming pucks on a consistent basis.

        It’s probably fair to say that shootouts will never be his strength – if also not necessarily his downfall – since many of those technical elements just aren’t as important in that setting.

    • billylove says:

      When it comes to positioning, nobody is better than Price. I’d argue that positioning is the foundation for becoming a great goalie and that’s what Price will be.

  71. Whatever says:

    Not that I want Lecavalier and certainly don’t want his cap hit, but keep in mind that a team can now trade a player and retain up to 50% of his cap hit. However, I’m sure for most teams, keeping salary in a trade is just a rung above full buyout without amnesty.

    I have no freakin’ clue what a trade would involve and it is all hypothetical, but is Lecavalier more attractive at a lower cap hit?

  72. christophor says:

    It’s pretty simple: the Habs have been one of the best teams in the league this year and so haven’t needed Price to steal games – i.e. he has barely had the chance to steal games.

    Geesh. This is a GOOD thing.

    This is just like the hit fetishists who were on about Toronto outhitting Montreal. Well, ya, Montreal had the puck the whole game; can’t hit unless the other team has the puck.. unless you’re a fan of interference.

  73. TommyB says:

    It’s no surprise that clod, Julien, was spouting off after the game about the Habs embellishing hits to draw penalties. He is smart enough to know that the “game” is not over, even when the game is over.

    His team is in a fight for fist place in the division with the Habs (not to suggest they are the only two who are in this fight, but they are the top two at the moment). First place in the division is a very important place to be at the end of 48 games, and we are halfway there. So Julien is making efforts to fight the Habs even when his team is not playing them. He hopes to draw the attention of the officials who will be working the Habs games even when the two teams are not playing each other. It’s an attempt to influence the games they are not involved in. Who can blame him? His employer does enjoy a certain degree of favour within the league, as has been shown on more than a few occasions. So Julien need only squeak loud enough for Jeremy to hear, and maybe Jeremy can work some more magic.

    And we all know what choirboys the Boston Bruins are, don’t we!


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