HIO at Monday practice

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The good citizens of Brossard get their last glimpse of the Canadiens for a while at a 9:30 a.m. practice.
Habs Inside/Out will be there.
Audio and video to come before the team boards an early-afternoon flight to California.
Until then, some reading on Saturday’s game and the Max Pacioretty hit on Kris Letang.

98 Comments

  1. AllHailTheFlower says:

    Don’t mind me…just a gravatar test.

  2. shiram says:

    So Washington got it’s wish, Carolina did too, when is it MTL’s turn?
    Having to play against a Muller lead team sure will spark alot of posts on here… It really is annoying that we will see him coach elsewhere.

    Randy for HC!

    • Bripro says:

      Boudreau has 3 times as many wins as losses, and he’s gone.
      I guess McPhee has more of a backbone than PG.

      • shiram says:

        You’d think our top players being so bad might be an incentive to think that coaching might be an issue, but we only get the lite Pearning.

        Randy for HC!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Bri, i suspect you would agree however, anybody can coach that team to reg. season wins, the key is to be able to win playoff games and keep Mr. Ovechkin happy at the same time. McPhee should have made this change either of the two past off seasons

        • karatekid says:

          The question is really is there a coach out there that speaks French that could do a better job than JM. Slim pickings.

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          • habbernack says:

            If JM is the best francophone available we’re in trouble for a LONGGGGG time. What a dumb business decision this francophone thing is.I guess losing is not so bad as long as the habs lose with a french coach.

            ability is what you’re capable of doing.
            attitude determines how you do it

        • Bripro says:

          I’m with you HB on that.
          I also feel that the players lost their mojo after being humiliated two years in a row in the playoffs.

    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      We’re waiting for the next available “Francophone” coach. Muller was never going to coach the Habs, he’s Anglophone. We let Guy Boucher bolt (pun intended) to the Sunshine State. So we’re stuck with Jacques Martin.

  3. Habfan29 says:

    48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head is targeted and the principal point of contact is not permitted. However, in determining whether such a hit should have been permitted, the circumstances of the hit, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit or the head contact on an otherwise legal body check was avoidable, can be considered.

    According to this rule, Patches should not be suspended as Letang, just like Campoli put himself in a vulnerable position, helooked up saw Patches coming and then put his head down, this was not a blind side hit. Furthermore showing signs of a concussion what was Letang doing on the ice, as per the rule he must visit the quiet room for 15 minutes, he did not. These 2 things should be taken into consideration by Shannahan. BTW please get rid of that putz Jack Todd….what a goof, read the rule Jack. Last time I sent him an e-mail he sent me a really nasty response. Lets deport him…..lol

  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    Globe and Mail’s Dave Sholats on the Boudreau firing. Pretty much right on, can’t become a disciplinarian after years of lax management.

    http://t.co/piWxRM3q

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  5. sampson12 says:

    How long til Boudreau finds a new job? I wouldn’t be surprised to see him as a member of the panel on TSN sometime soon. He’d be a good addition to ‘the Quiz’…

  6. --Habs-- says:

    Not being overly optimistic here so far this season! BUT! We’re playing 500 hockey with a defensive core that has been playing with a year in the NHL including PK…..Lets not forget PK had played only in the playoffs the previous year so he’s just starting his 2nd full season. What other NHL team would be playing 5 D on 1 night on many occasions with 1 year or less experience still playing 500 hockey. Look at the standings. Habs are a point out of a playoff spot……with Gill back and Josh playing well + Markov finally seeing light at the end of the tunnel. As for Gomez! Sorry how many chances does he get? I think he’ll end up on long term IR. Habs won’t send him to Hamilton! Thats not what the Habs do! Habs are simply not other franchises and they are a class act no matter what the turmoil. Unfortunate for us as fans but thats what happens when you have a classy organization.

    • pat s says:

      and my dog ate my homework–enough–martin/gauthier both got to go and we need a new direction–if we don’t change our pretty system we will never win–boston/flyers/pens, and now the caps with dale hunter will smash us right through the boards

      like i don’t understand what it takes for people not to see or accept this—-unbelievable

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Problem is with the loser point .500 hockey isn’t the median anymore.

  7. Ian Cobb says:

    We have to get contact to the head out of our game period.!

    If you make contact to the head with the stick, it is automatically now a two, four or a game, depending on the damage and intent.

    Why not the same for an elbow or shoulder armor to the head?

    Yes Max got screwed last year by Chara and the league, and no, I do not think that Max targeted his head, but if you make contact to the head at anytime, I am against it. There must be consequences to every player, even ours.

    I do think Max will get a pass on this one though. But he and all players have to have more respect. And the league has to be much more consistent when dealing with this problem.

    And that is my two cents for what it is worth.

    • pat s says:

      everytime there is a head shot you want the guy suspended and now its PACS you are trying to say he deserves a slap on the wrist–be consistent with your position on suspensions

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Shanahan is the one giving out 0′s for head shots. Lucic, Chara etc.

        • pat s says:

          so your saying chara/lucuic deserved a suspension but pacs doesn’t–what he did is 3000 times worse than what lucic did to miller

          • G-Man says:

            Grow a pair of eyes, pat. What a bs comment.

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            THREEEEEE THOUSAND TIMES WORSE!!!! I dunno, Dr. Evil. What does your mini-me say? I MIIILLLIONNNN?
            Miller suffered a concussion and has not played since the Lucic hit. Letang wiped the blood from his nose and scored the winning goal in the game in which he was injured. Not even a visit to the quiet room.
            You have just lost all credibility. Happy?

          • pat s says:

            lost creditibility–if you say lucic’s hit was worse than the pacs hit you are in la la land–Letang is lucky to have still have his head–listen, i don’t think luccic or pacs should be suspended–i believe in letting the players sort things out so it i won’t be a hypocrite but go back and check that lucic hit–there was no head shot whatsoever—unbelievable that you think that lucic’s hit was worse–its not even in the same ball park–lucic was wrong hitting the goalie but he didn’t give him a headshot

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            You’re the one saying one hit is worse than the other. I’m replying to your lack of credibility. 3,000 times worse? Yet in one case the player that was hit by someone outweighing him by almost 5,000,000 pounds, is still out and in the other, the player scored the winning goal. I would say that either both players or neither players deserved a suspension. It is the lack of consistency from the likes of Shanahan and Campbell that has become the issue.

          • pat s says:

            Thomas Le Fan–do you still sleep in a crib b/c only a baby would take 3000 times the way you did–its a figure of speech–that hit that pacs did is not even in the same league as Lucic’s hit–lucic hit a goalie, but it wasn’t a headshot hit, pacs hit was a complete head shot—

            so i guess when an announcer says “when you get hit by Phaneuff its like getting hit by a bus” loses all his credibility b/c Phaneuff is no where near as strong as a bus–get rid of your diapers for crying out loud

  8. 24 Cups says:

    Puck Daddy posted this ten hours ago. He certainly knew something was up.

    Boudreau’s regular season record of 201-88-40 wasn’t enough to save his job. He can thank Ovechkin and Semin for that.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Capitals-panic-button-rumor-Dale-Hunter-could-r?urn=nhl-wp18395

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Try his inability to beat any team that wasn’t the NYR in the post-season. Boudreau changed his strategy from all-out attack, to defence first, to defence first plus Trying to Hold Star Players Accountable. Issue is if a coach changes strategy three times, in three years the team will tune out as they decide “Well if you keep saying this is the way to win, what the hell happened to last year’s strategy of this is the way to win?”

      He let Ovechkin, Semin and Green do what they like until this season (none moreso than Ovechkin of course) and that was the problem. You can’t say your star players get to do what they want for years and than suddenly reverse policy without a high potential for backlash. Ovechkin was allowed to set himself apart from the team and he was given the C anyway. That’s not good coaching.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • pat s says:

      ovechkin wishes he was half as good as crosby

  9. G-Man says:

    Ovechkin has gotten his wish. He has helped turn a contender into a mediocre, uncaring team filled with prima donnas. The Caps will flounder until that captain is moved.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Hunter has never coached a pro game in his life so it should be interesting. There will be a honeymoon bump, there always is. Even Mario started off with a winning streak (remember the high five?).

      The real question will be how Hunter can relate to players like Ovie and Semin. As well, you have to wonder how Hunter will match up when it comes to coaching against guys like Julien, Bylsma and Laviolette in the playoffs.

    • adamkennelly says:

      get a clue G…guess they are going to flounder until 2067 when his contract is up…coaches never (almost) win in those situations, nor should they.. ..Caps underperformed under Boudreau..

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Remember when Steve Yzerman was a selfish, choking bum for 13 years? Good times.

      Boudreau let Ovechkin do what he wanted for so long he dug his own grave. You let your superstar set himself apart for the team with his own rules (what player is allowed to control the length of his shifts) and give him the C, you’re asking for trouble.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

  10. SeriousFan09 says:

    Watched the Brampton Battalion host the London Knights and by extension, Jarred Tinordi. And as I find out now, perhaps the last time Dale Hunter stands behind the London Bench.

    Impressions: Do not start predicting him to make the team out of next year’s camp. Needs to mature physically, not as dominant or immovable as you would expect him to be at his size. First step in his skating is not very strong which left him caught a couple times, he may need two years in the Hammer. Positives were a good first pass, a strong no quit attitude in his board battles even when he was down. Skating is not awkward, moves well on the whole. Endurance and smarts not an issue I found, was strong on the penalty kill, very alert watching movement of Brampton skaters as he covered his position around the net. Knights coach Dale Hunter trusted him to keep a lid on a tight game, Knights led 1-0, 2-0 and 2-1 over the 3rd period and Tinordi was basically double shifted for the period, including the last minute and a half. Considering this was London’s third game in as many nights, pretty solid on Tinordi’s part. Was not very physical, but he was wearing jaw protection so may have felt hesitant about getting too engaged.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  11. Malreg says:

    Dale Hunter new head coach of the Capitals.

    Sucks for Tinordi’s London Knights, who were early season Memorial Cup favorites, but who knows what happens now that they’ve lost their long time coach.

  12. SBAH says:

    bet ya ovi will start to pick up his game, he was pissed after boudreu wouldn’t play him in overtime a few weeks back = bad chemistry .

  13. HabFanSince72 says:

    One H I/O meme is that the Habs have to abandon the silly “French language” rule. In fact, they abandoned it around the time of their last Stanley Cup. The 1993 team was 50% Francophone. But in the 90s it was club policy to draft mainly from the Western Hockey League (to disastrous effect), culminating in the early 00s when we had no scout in Quebec.

    Why the Habs might wish to focus on Quebec has nothing to do with Rejean Tremblay style ethnocentrism, but more to do with copying a football club: FC Barcelona.

    Barcelona are to their hometown what the Habs are to Montreal. Not just a club but an expression of the local culture. Most big European clubs have rosters of mercenaries (Real Madrid being the prominent example). Not Barcelona. 2/3 of the players are Catalan, and grew up supporting the club. (Even Leo Messi, although Argentinian by birth, has lived in Barcelona since age 13.) This is not to say they shun foreigners. Some of their greatest players have been Johann Cruyyf, Diego Maradona, Romario, Ronaldo and Ronaldinho. But they have a tremendous loyalty from Catalan footballers. Look at Cesc Fabregas. Left Barcelona at age 16 to play for Arsenal, and pined for home ever since. Guys like Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Puyol would never dream of becoming free agents.

    Why would this benefit the Canadiens?

    1. Less of a need to overpay. It’s a cap league and we need to pay American free agents a bonus to play here. Young hockey players in Quebec grow up wanting to play for the Habs in a way that does not exist anywhere else.

    2. Develop a network of spies and scouts in Quebec giving you an edge at draft time. (This is what Philadelphia do in Ontario). Quebec is notoriously under-represented in the draft, meaning there are more hidden gems.

    3. Cultivate a style and approach to the game that the players buy into. To be different than most of of the other teams.

    4. This is not to say the club should go back to being mostly Quebecois, as it was during the glory years. However maybe aim to have say 8-9 Quebecois as opposed to only Mathieu Darche.

    5. One way we could not copy Barcelona is that they sign players as young as 11 years old, and train them in the house style from that age. They literally grow up at the club. Nonetheless is it crazy to think that Quebec hockey could be the equivalent school for a Canadiens style based on speed and skill.

    6. I would extend the cultural boundaries to include the Maritimes and Eastern Ontario. This would mean working to make sure all Habs games are televised in those parts of the country, even at a slight loss.

    • avatar_58 says:

      They don’t draft high enough to get the good quebec players, so it’s meaningless. I want the BEST players, not just the french ones.

    • Le Jadester says:

      Now you’re talking my language !
      Obviously, it would take a little time and patience for the impact of such an approach . But yes, I wish that was the game plan from top down within the organization. A model similar to Barca’s, Man. U’s, AC Milan’s, Ajax, Bayern etc. I’d prefer to endure growing pains with that kind of an objective in mind. The current one is purely based on patchwork year in and year out for the sole purpose of making money and generating hype amonst the fanbase IMO.

      PS – I think this latest version of Barca (i.e the last couple of years) is the best team the world has ever seen.

      Habs, OLE !

    • G-Man says:

      Local boys on the Habs. Players that actually give a rat’s ass? Stop dreaming. As long as Timmons is there, we draft Minnesota boys.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        That statement is so ignorant it’s laughable. Do your research! As JM would insist, Canadiens used two 1st-rounders on Minnesota players since Timmins took over and as much as Fischer is a popular goat and McDonagh would look better than any French Canadian defencemen drafted league-wide since McDonagh was picked up, or even a couple years before him save Kris Letang. Tinordi wasn’t Minnesota-born. Danny Kristo was the only MIN-born player (or American, period) drafted with a 2nd-round pick.

        Using picks on Q talent “who’d love to be a Hab” always work out too right? Mathieu Carle a bust, could have had Artem Anisomov, Jamie McBain or Blake Geoffrion. Max Lapierre over a stupid Minnesota-born bum like David Backes… And let’s not forget Guimauve.

        - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • G-Man says:

          Listen, SF, I am not the one filling the club with players from anywhere except here. Of course many picks from Quebec won’t work out. You’ve said so yourself many times. The Habs were better with a mix of talent from here and elsewhere. Have a look at the 93 roster. Lots of local talent and grinders. Look at the 2011 roster. Darche. I mean, wow. Darche.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            Local talent compared to 1993 is frankly, an embarassment.

            Until the Q catches up and can put more than 1 skater in the Top 3 of the draft in 10 years (Huberdeau) I say look to the OHL a lot more than anything.

            - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

          • athanor says:

            Not to defend the lack of Quebec players, but David Desharnais of Laurier-Station, Que., would probably beg to differ with your counting. And St-Denis, while a late-comer and not likely to stay once Markov returns, is also from Quebec.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      1. Many Quebec-born players have shown no interest in coming here. St Louis and Lecavalier have avoided the Habs entirely, Briere said he had no interest in the fishbowl, I’d bet even odds when Giroux goes UFA he doesn’t even think about leaving PHI. If Jonathan Huberdeau does become a star, much the same. We get guys like Desharnais, Darche, St. Denis and with a desire to be with MTL. Specialists, grinders and journeyman.

      2. The talent doesn’t exist. Claude Giroux wasn’t even Quebec-born but he is the best French Canadian forward by a country mile under the age of 30. Huberdeau may be a player but he’s the first Quebec-born skater to be drafted in the Top 3 since Lecavalier.

      3. I’m all for whatever coaching strategy brings in wins or the championship.

      4. We had a large compliment of French Canadians before the great purge of 2009. I can’t say I miss them.

      5. Montreal has participated in efforts to help regrow Hockey in Quebec but still a ways to go, I’ve always supported the idea of them being a driving force behind a true resurrection of the QMJHL as an equal member of the CHL.

      6. I applaud this only because I live in Eastern ON.

      Until the QMJHL is producing guys more like Damphousse, Turgeon and a Savard (Either), Lemaires and a true superstar in a Lafleur, Beliveau type than MTL can’t be hidebound to recruiting on a place of birth basis.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • Clay says:

      Many prominent French free-agents have snubbed the Habs to play in warmer climes with less taxes and less pressure. It seems a lot of them don’t really want to play here and put up with all of the BS that goes along with being a Montreal Canadien. Sad as it is to say…

      Good plan though…
      __________________________
      “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.” – Jean Beliveau.

    • nickster13 says:

      I think a main reason is because the current young generation of players, lets say 25 and under, grew up watching garbage habs teams that didnt make the playoffs and made many questionable moves. So now that our fan base is back and the team has a certain aura around it again, since around 03-4 seriously, i think the crop of players in the next 10 years will look at the habs as their favourite childhood team and we will also see more talent come out of quebec.
      We keep seeing it, the best players come from the places with the most success. Which is why we’re seeing good players from California now thanks to gretzky and the like, and also solid americans coming out of new jersey. But i can name many examples.
      SO point being, give it 5-10 years when kids grow up and we will see quebec as a hockey powerhouse once again.

    • sampson12 says:

      Messi only lived in Barca because they paid for his dwarfism treatment. The guy wouldn’t have grew past 5 feet if they hadn’t stepped in and now he can be considered one of the best ever. Cool story.

      Looking back at the what-ifs when it comes to the draft makes me sick. I don’t even have to mention specifics, but I will anyways..

      DAVID FISCHER OVER CLAUDE GIROUX… i just puked.

      You know who else would have looked good at center in Montreal? Patrice Bergeron.. instead of Cory Urquhart. Yeah, that’s the 2003 draft where AK46 was picked 10th. I get what they saw, crazy talented, big winger with a shot that blisters paint. But you look at the list of stars drafted after him, even way past Jeff Carter: Brown, Seabrook, Parise, Getzlaf, Burns, Kesler, Richards, Perry.. what I’d do for just ONE of them..

      I hate hindsight.

    • Habitall says:

      Good points and good discussion. I generally agree with your reasoning, though I’d lower 8-9 french-speaking players to 6-7, just to be realistic.

      Seems we’re extremely American, and while that doesn’t really bother me (esp. considering the quality of character and play most of these guys possess), I would like to see a bit more of a distinguishing characteristic. Right now, we don’t have much of an identity.

      I like the crop of young players in the system, and agree with SF09′s points about the dearth of high-level talent in the Q … and did we really know Giroux would turn out as he has? If he hadn’t he’d be labelled a smurf by many here.

      And I’m glad we picked MaxPac over David Perron, in retrospect.

      If we could get more opportunistic cherry-picking by way of trades — like O’Byrne for Bournival — I think we can reach the half dozen mark. And I don’t think we’d have to sacrifice quality. Get a good mix. Big American leadership types, rugged OHL/WHL boys, talented Czechs, and passionate/talented Quebecois (or franco-Ontarians).

      And lastly, they don’t need to be in strategic positions, llike head coach or goalie, or even GM for that matter. Remember the 70s, when there were no French-Canadians in those 3 positions? We did pretty well then, non?

  14. RGM says:

    If we take the position that all headshots must be penalized by the League, which I do, Pacioretty deserves some form of consequence from Shanahan, be it a fine as a first-time offender or suspension to allow Shanny to show that he’s serious again about blows to the head.
    If we look at the NHL’s past verdicts on similar hits, such as Malone-on-Campoli and Letang-on-Comeau, it may be zippo or it could be a 2-game suspension. They’ve re-introduced grey areas as mitigating factors (and to some extent rightfully so – this is a fast game where things can happen in an instant) rather than the blanket policy approach. As such, somebody’s going to be angry regardless of the verdict rendered.

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  15. vic says:

    This team is finished.The scoring has been removed by the coach and his system of defence defence,Players no longer get in close to the net.they are trained to take a shot from way out and turn back.So many players being ruined .Suban no longer making rushes held back by the coaching.
    I dont think this team has a chance this year or any in future until a mangement change is done

  16. HardHabits says:

    Marlies are first in the AHL North Division. Bulldogs are last.

    Leafs are first in NHL NE Division. Habs are last.

    I have no problem with the Habs sucking. My problem is with the Habs giving off airs that this team is play-off bound. Or that it possibly could win a round if it ever managed to stumble into them.

    I guess that’s the way it is when 13 million is tied up in injuries and another 11 million is tied up in two under sized under productive smurf forwards. Almost half the cap wasted on sweet FA.

    What a joke. This is not championship calibre organization by any stretch of the imagination.

    I just hope Gainey isn’t behind the scenes pushing buttons to gut the future in hopes of propping this catastrophe up any further.

    The Gainey legacy will be the Gomez trade as much as the Roy trade is Houle’s legacy.

    • DearyLeary says:

      Does the lack of Gomez make the team that much better? Does the lack of McDonagh make us that much worse?

      Nope. Nope. Next.

      • HardHabits says:

        Short term. Yes. Long term. Yes. Next 5 year plan coming up in 3 years.

      • Welks says:

        Does the presence of Gomez make the team any better. Nope.
        Is he going to cost the same money in Hamilton as he does in Montreal. Yep
        Is he costing young players who have the potential and desire to improve ice time. Yep
        I actually think having McDonagh would help the team but they never gave the kid a chance.

    • G-Man says:

      Gainey ain’t the GM. Hasn’t been for quite some time yet posters still mention him like he is the puppetmaster. He is an advisor; that’s it, that’s all.
      The HH legacy has become incessant bitching about how good all the other teams are in comparison to the Habs. Big whoop. Like we don’t know. And like that opinion is going to change anything here at Bitchfest Inside/Out. Yawn.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Bulldogs were 1st or 2nd in the AHL North Division in the past 3 years and won a Calder Cup in 2007. They played with 16 skaters in their last game, have 10 players on their roster injured, have lost 2 more to MTL in call-ups. This is after losing Subban, Weber, Pacioretty, Desharnais and White to MTL in the last 12 months.

      That team is close to being disqualified from playing a game at the rate they’re going but feel free to dump on them. Next year they have 7 inbound skaters in Gallagher, Kristo, Bournival, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Ellis and Pateryn. Add in Leblanc, Avtsin, Dumont, Nattinen and you have a very young group with only Dumont and Gallagher being “smurfs”.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

  17. 24 Cups says:

    The latest from Down Goes Brown. I just love the last line.

    http://www.downgoesbrown.com/

  18. Marc10 says:

    And yes… Max should be suspended.

    It was a hit to the head he could have avoided…

    • Richard B says:

      guess players should just rogue the puck and stake around with their head down.
      I’m all for not targeting the head on an unexpecting player…but these are professional athelites. The guy skating accross the blue line with the puck with his head burried in his skates has to have some accountability.
      Its silly.

      Richard B

  19. Marc10 says:

    Far from me to miss another opportunity to panic, but the boys have really put themselves on the back foot. When they return from their California road trip they very well could be in a deep hole. On the flip side they could be back in it…

    I’m not optimistic. Our PP is disastrous. We don’t have a Kovy on the flank, a canon at the point or a giant in front of goal. Until St Andrei or Campoli return, we’re going to struggle.

    Please, please, please… Stop playing Pleks at the point. Play the DD line with PK and Gorges or AK-Pleks-Cams… If any forward fails to perform, you slot in Eller.

    If you’re going to do anything creative, I’d put Nokia in front of the net and ask him to channel Holmstrom… :-)

  20. 24 Cups says:

    The Habs have 12 games between now and the (very short) Christmas break. During that stretch, they have two sets of back-to-back games. All the other games are well spaced out and can be handled by Price.

    Which games does Budaj start? Well, I guess you could look at it two ways. He goes against the weaker teams in hopes of grabbing some points, or he starts against teams the Habs probably have no chance of beating. That way Price can get a rest and then try and grab the two points from the lesser lights in the league.

    Personally, I’d give him the starts on Dec 1st against San Jose and Chicago on Dec 21st. Other options (from the other perspective) would be against bottom feeders like Columbus (Dec 6th) and the Islanders (Dec 13th).

  21. 24 Cups says:

    HabsWorld weekly recap. Player ratings, Eller update and a report from Hamilton on the Bulldogs. Decent read.

    http://habsworld.net/article.php?id=2652

  22. Richard B says:

    Didn’t the habs insideout community vote that we didn’t want any more links to Jack Todd Stories?
    Very bad way to start Monday morning, and I only read 1/4 of the dribble.

    Richard B

    • crazyhabsfan says:

      Who is that idiot? WTF were the HIO guys thinking when they posted that?

      • crazyhabsfan says:

        Thank you Wikipedia:

        Jack Todd (born 1946 in Nebraska) is a sports columnist for the Montreal Gazette since 1986. Todd was an American citizen who deserted from the U.S. Army to avoid being sent to fight during the Vietnam War. He is now a Canadian citizen.

        Now I know…

  23. The Cat says:

    Max deserves a suspension, but he doesnt deserve one based on previous decisions. The NHL continues to put itself in this position thanks to its military-grade stupidity.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Bill J says:

      Using military grade, is not a good “adjective” or analogy. Just sayin’.

      Would be like me saying “cat grade stupidity”.


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      Go Habs Go!

  24. HabsFanMTL says:

    its the same thing that happened to Campoli….he put his head down and got a head shot and shanny said it wasn’t intentional by the other player

    • Darksyde says:

      That’s all well and good, but remember the outrage we all felt when there was no suspension on that same Campoli hit? We can’t be hypocrites, here.

      Shannahan needs to take this one hit, by a former victim, and make a statement, make a new standard for all players from here on in.

      What should it be? Me, personally, thinks that MaxPac should get 2 games. That would be the new standard. Unintentional but still (bleeping) dangerous hit on a player? That’ll net you 2 games. Add on to it from there with intent, previous history, etc…

      The refs also need to get involved. There are 4 officials on the ice. Guaranteed at least one of them saw the hit. Make it, like with severe stick infractions, that linesmen can influence a penalty call after a play stoppage. Dangerous hit? 5 and a game, with an automatic review by the Disciplinary Committee.

      We see all these injuries happening these days, it’s time ACTION, not just speaking of action, happens.

      • Captain aHab says:

        But he won’t. I’m betting he will suspend Pax and then the next time someone hits another player in the head, he’ll decide differently for obscure reasons. I mean come on, if Lucic got away with his blatant hit, then suspensions in general should be off the books.

  25. JohnBellyful says:

    Max, Shan’ here.
    Sham?
    Shan. Shanahan, Brendan. NHL senior vice-president of player safety and hockey operations. Fancy title but I like to keep things on a casual basis. You do know why I’m calling?
    To apologize on behalf of the league for not punishing Chara after he rammed my head into the stanchion?
    Now, now, no need to hold a grudge, Max. Besides, it was before my time. Things are different now.
    I dunno. Lucic got nothing for ramming Miller and giving him a concussion.
    Ah, but it was a matter of intent, Max. He did try to avoid hitting him, and I like I said, it’s unfortunate that Miller got hurt but I saw nothing egregious about the hit that would elevate it to supplemental discipline, beyond the minor penalty he got for charging.
    So what you’re saying is that because I didn’t get a minor penalty, I don’t have to worry about supplemental discipline because there’s no discipline to supplement?
    Now don’t start throwing NHL Players’ Association gobbledy-gook at me. You hit the guy, you broke his nose, his nose is part of his head, therefore it’s a head shot, and requires a review. He had his head down, he was vulnerable and still you hit him with your shoulder. Not nice … but speaking as a former player, I gotta say you got him real good.
    He lowered his head while taking his shot otherwise it would have been shoulder to shoulder.
    Would’ve, could’ve, should’ve. Immaterial. It’s the consequences that matter. You could have knocked him out for the rest of season.
    He missed a few shifts and then scored the winning goal in overtime on a play that should have been blown dead by the referees!
    Irrevelant. And don’t worry, the league has taken action with regards to the officials. They won’t be getting a Christmas card this year. Now let’s get back to your case. Was it your intent to hurt Letang?
    Of course not, that’s why I apologized right after.
    Apology, eh? Sounds like an admission of guilt to me. [Pauses a few moments] Three game suspension for the hit plus another two.
    For what?!!!!
    Not sure. My adviser just buzzed me on the other line. You’ll have to ask him.
    And he is?
    Sorry, you don’t have clearance. Have a nice day.

  26. Clay says:

    Perhaps the new poll question should be whether the commentariat thinks Patches deserves a suspension…because the question that’s there now is nothing if not inane.

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    “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.” – Jean Beliveau.

  27. G-Man says:

    Mediocrity thy name is Canadiens. Being stuck with too many inexperienced and soft as toilet paper Dmen is costing wins. Forwards with no drive to the net is costing goals. It’s a lose-lose situation.
    The only team the Habs have a chance against this week is Anaheim. They suck, too, even with the GREAT GETZLAF and the “I should retire” Koivu.
    It’s not about boring coaching styles; it’s about the will to win. Not seeing it from this group. Pac behaving like he stole the crown jewels after his hit on Letang? Sad.

  28. Ian Cobb says:

    We will soon see, Corn.


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