Hickey sets up date with the Leafs

Pat Hickey sets up Thursday’s game against the Maple Leafs, pointing out that despite the recent struggles of the Canadiens, they have actually improved their playoff position compared to where they were right after the All-Star break.

Desharnais isn’t getting the credit he deserves: Standing Pat

Dave Stubbs, who was on the road with the Canadiens in Western Canada, weighs in on their win in B.C. with a final column before coming home.

Arpon Basu on Desharnais

• Canadiens on RDS at least through 2013-’14 season

James Reimer, the hot goaltender we’ll see tonight

452 Comments

  1. observer says:

    exactly and it didnt save him his sabres job! looks good on him.

  2. observer says:

    yeah right! while pens, bruins pick up guys like kaberle and neale – habs should pick up old rejects like mara and rivet? give me a break!

  3. RC-51 says:

    It would be a depth move, incase of another injury to our D after Feb 28 th heading into the playoffs.

  4. Rainrocket16 says:

    So what are some of todays rumours floating around?

  5. Miltie01 says:

    The Bruins invited Shane Hnidey for a tryout……if he does well enough, they will take him on as a seventh Dman and will be done.

  6. LA Loyalist says:

    About last night… now that we’ve enjoyed the warm fuzzy glow of a win in the west.

    We beat Nucks 3-2, we gave up 39 shots

    New Jersey beat Dallas 1-0 – but only gave up 19 shots.

    How many games are we going to win sitting in our own end like last night? Yeah Price was great. But at some point we need to do the math.

    JM’s defensive system?

    Compare and contrast, as they used to say in pharmacology class.

  7. notbigbird says:

    Is Hickey setting up a date with the Leafs for himself or someone special?

  8. Flobomb12 says:

    Scott Gomez has been one of the most effective players lately, second behind only Pleks for points since Dec 1? Nothing like going back to Dec in order to get in his one small stretch of points all year. Here’s the reality… let’s say the last 21 are enough time to Measure how effective he has been “lately”. well that would be 9 points in 21 games and a -10. Funny thing about stats is that people can manipulate them the way they want. The only real stat that matters is that the guy might very well play the entire year with top line mins and pp time and put up less then 40 points. Add to that a +/- that is far worse then anyone else around him and I think that says it all.

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    Interesting. I’d expect to see Rivet’s picture under cliquishness or pylon.

     

     

  10. andrewberkshire says:

    The difference there is that NJ is playing the best hockey they’ve played in two years, and Dallas is 1-8-1 in their last 10, falling apart completely, and without Brad Richards.

    Meanwhile Montreal has been heavily slumping, and beat the best team in the entire NHL, on the road, where they have a terrible record, on Vancouver’s ice, where they have the best record in the entire NHL.

    Forgive us for being happy that our team overcame ridiculous odds to pull out an unlikely win. Jeez, nothing is good enough for some people.

  11. MrNax says:

    What would you have them do differently?  

  12. Bill J says:

    vestiaire.ca says something is about to go down, many different scenarios presented.

    Stastny + Liles from Colorado

    Neil + Kovalev + Phillips from Ottawa

    Penner + Pekham from Edmonton – but this one has lost a bit of steam – EDM apparently wants too much.

    Gomez to PHX — OR — LA

    And I read on some site (so take this as a conversation topic alone)

    Bobby Ryan for Cammalleri + Weber + Pouliot + 1st round pick.

     

  13. Bill J says:

    This “system” will haunt us until JM fails to bring the team to the Playoffs.

    On this I agree with many of the nay-sayers on the coaching topic.

    Very frustrating, because we are a smart bunch us Habs fans, and we SEE how much better it could be without this “system”.

     

  14. Bill J says:

    I would rewind, Fire JM – Keep Guy Boucher…

    sell off Hamrlik, Spacek, Gomez…. get a bag of pucks… I could care less…

    And go the HardHabits way….  Not “tanking” but allowing nature to take it’s course with a bunch of young guys playing in MTL.

    All the Habs need IMO – is a TOP Flight Forward, preferably BIG Center with enormous scoring upside….  And then the UFA’s will come, not PG chasing them around the Globe…

    The Habs would have the trifecta, <Star Forward> + Subban + Price. build around that, and you’ve got the makings of a championship team.

     

    RE the system ?  I’m not against system’s in particular, but JM’s system while effective wears the team down, and makes them weak…  This Habs team had loads of pop in the first 30-40 games, now they look almost as flat as they did in the Philly series after those incredible first two rounds…  Partially due to a spanking by Boston as well.

  15. VancouverHab says:

    Dude: Dallas is 17th in the league, the Canucks are 1st. We donèt have Markov or Gorges.

    Compare indeed….

     

  16. SmartDog says:

    Don’t piss off the Gomerites.  They’ll send people to your home.

     

  17. habs365 says:

    I don’t care what you say about jm’s coaching, I don’t like what he’s doing to Desharnais, plays him for 5 minutes and this guy has a better goal scoring percentage than Pouliot, Kostitsyn, Gomez or any of the bottom six..jm play this guy more, he’s one of the better goal scores and should be the center on the 2nd line….

  18. Bill J says:

    If the Gomerites are ANYTHING like the Halakalites…  I would agree with SmartDog….

    They hunt you down, and pester you…. over & over & over & over & over & over…

    Then of course once Gomez is traded :D – The vast majority of the Gomerites will dissapear like the Halakalites did…

    Oh how I thoroughly enjoyed after being called a Price-Bot for all those months seeing Price play the way he’s been this season.

  19. SeriousFan09 says:

    Vincent Lecavalier: 13G, 17A in 43 games. .70PPG

    Tomas Plekanec: 19G, 27A in 60 games. .77PPG

    My prediction that Pleks would outscore Vinny this year holding up and Lecavalier plays in the offensive system paradise of Tampa Bay.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  20. Rainrocket16 says:

    Bobby ryan for that grouping is asking way too much..Hope that dies as a rumor! I am hoping we land Neil just as long as we don’t up someone good. Statsny is worth too much I think, Liles is good though. We’ll see I guess, thanks for the info!

  21. andrewberkshire says:

    Part of the reason Desharnais is so successful is because he’s facing easier competition, moving him up a line would change that. He’s getting the same treatement every rookie gets, and he’s making a slow adjustment to the league. JM’s record with the young players on the team this season speaks for itself, he’s done an excellent job.

  22. habstrinifan says:

    Finally some posts enjoying and appreciating the win while still being brave enough to raise questions.

    I wont go into a harangue about JM’s style. I just would like an honest explanation as to why DD played so little.

    I posted some days ago that HABS have to start finding out ‘what they got’ in all their prospects.

    Desharnis came up and has done nothing but given it his all. I dont need to look at stats to know that he is producing better than a Gomez etc. (Just as I dont let Gomez’s poor stats blind me into not appreciating that the very amount of skating that Gomez does contributes to our defense).

    So why not let’s see what we really got in DD.

    Give him enough minutes in all situations and let’s find out. If JM is afraid that he is too small.. give DD A CHANCE to prove or disprove it(compared to the other forwards on this team). If JM is afraid that DD is not defensively responsible, give DD A CHANCE to prove or disprove it. How can any fan tell me they will really get an idea if DD is a player we will count on for top six SPOT or not, if he doesnt get a chance to play more than he did in a game like last night, where he was ‘cooking’.

    I am trying to remain totally upbeat re the win. It was great. I feel more secure about the playoff spot now. I know some feel it’s in the bag period. But…

    Well think I’ll shut up before the site’s thought police, who demand that all posts be complimentary and extoll the greatness of this tea, plaster me with their scarlett letters.

  23. andrewberkshire says:

    Higgins scored, he still plays?

  24. andrewberkshire says:

    That’s with Plekanec playing a ton of PK time that Lecavalier would never even dream of seeing.

  25. SeriousFan09 says:

    PK’s 3rd in rookie defencemen scoring and the guys ahead of him Shattenkirk and Fowler see their time on the PP, they don’t do both PK and PP duties. So much for shattered confidence. Subban never even spent time on te penalty kill in Hamilton, this is an adjustment to his game he made in the NHL, under JM.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  26. Chuck says:

    That’s called smart asset management.

  27. andrewberkshire says:

    JM’s impact on PK, especially in giving him Hal Gill as a partner has been fantastic.

  28. habsfannfld says:

    if PG was able to ship gomez out, and get any kind of return for him, he would be a legend. Just don’t see it happening.

    As for the Ryan deal, let’s not forget what cammy did for us last year in the playoffs. Cammy is just getting back into it after being sidelined, but will be huge come playoff time. He really proved himself last year

  29. Duracell3 says:

    I love bobby ryan, but probably not worth it. If gomez was to leave with that we’d have some ridiculous cap space, but probably no one to fill it with constructively from UFA’s.

    I also doubt they’d really want to trade bobby ryan, they have a large number of good offensive players, and cammy is not better than ryan, and Pouliot would be on their 3rd line. Weber wouldnt bring anything they dont already have.

  30. Mark C says:

    Yup, but to the JM haters it’s called stupidity and the sullying of another young player.

  31. andrewberkshire says:

    Exactly. And DD is ripping that weak competition apart to the tune of 3 goals and 5 assists, +3 in the last 7 games. Martin is no idiot, he’s putting Desharnais in a situation where he’ll succeed.

  32. Nine1one says:

    top line in florida

    I dont know why they have better options

  33. punkster says:

    JM ruins rookies (or so I’m told) ;)

    ***Subbang!!!***

  34. Rainrocket16 says:

    Yeah he crashed our net hard the other day!!

  35. Bill says:

    I think the Habs should trade him and a 2nd rounder for Eric Staal.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  36. Da Hema says:

    Alexandre Picard should get Norris Trophy consideration.

  37. JohnBellyful says:

    I’d make that deal in a second

  38. Rainrocket16 says:

    As everyone just fell out of their seat for their mouse hahah!!

  39. punkster says:

    I like Hart. He’s got…you know…

    ***Subbang!!!***

  40. punkster says:

    (Sigh) So far they’re missing the point here Andrew. Drummed up controversies are the hallmark of HI/O. This place is the centre of the hockey universe for inane theories, half truths and real life dramas such as Mafia brothers, Carbo’s untold story and the nightly l’antichambre innuendos.

    Come on people, step up to the challenge. WE WANT CONTROVERSY!

    ***Subbang!!!***

  41. Trisomy 21 says:

    I need a change of shorts.

  42. Ayan_SB says:

    They’re the new Washington Capitals.

    At least the Caps would win games by scores such as 6-5, whereas Tampa can go from winning 7-2 to losing 1-8 in a matter of days. 

    Edit: Just noticed Andrew basically wrote the same thing earlier.

  43. TomNickle says:

    K, you know what.  March 1st is Tuesday.  Can I not fantasize about this until then?

    Piss off!

  44. andrewberkshire says:

    Not as long as MAB is in this league, he’s a lock for it.

  45. larisalapointe says:

    Haha…P-ster only men would find my totally innocent…rolls eyes… avatar kinky.

  46. larisalapointe says:

    I love Lucic and Chara like all good Habs fans should..OK?

  47. habs365 says:

    I meant to say Desharnais is not complaining

  48. habs001 says:

    the habs looks like are a team that does better vs the top teams…top teams have defined players that have to be stopped and the habs style is perfect vs those teams…yesterdays game after the first ten minutes was a replica of last years first two rounds…the style is very hard to maintain over 3or 4 rounds and you cannot give up many bad goals or flukey goals as these games come down to usually to one goal difference..when we play the weaker teams we may be a bit better on talent but not by a big margin so those games can go either way as we dont really know who to check…

  49. Da Hema says:

    Brian Burke should become the next general manager of the Montreal Canadiens.

  50. coachdoug says:

    Only way Gomez is traded is we send a case of whatever Gainey was drinking when he made this crazy deal to every GM in the league…Scotty is here to stay for many years…

  51. larisalapointe says:

    No they are worth more….add our 1st picks for the next 5 years as well.

  52. king ddd says:

    go leafs go!

     

    ** Buck Fruins **

  53. Psycho29 says:

    Only if his wore his special skates…

  54. andrewberkshire says:

    We should trade Price, Subban, Pleks and Patches for those two.

  55. TomNickle says:

    Just sharing my early Easter wish with everyone.

  56. king ddd says:

    sorry bud. my bad

    ** Buck Fruins **

  57. andrewberkshire says:

    I believe Henri Richard is in section 106 if you’re interested, and Vincent Damphousse is often in Section 108.

  58. Mr. Biter says:

    When DD was called up many posters complained about his lack of size (and we do need bigger players) and  of course interesting comments came up about the lack of Habs younger players staying up or being traded to other teams and I rember making a post that there are only so many NHL players and you may only get 1 or 2 chances in the bigs and in your short time you have to show what you can do. DD has done that against the odds (size the main reason) and worked his way on to the team. He should be congradulated. White had the same chance , disappeared vs. the Flyers was sent down (didn’t know his role) got a 2nd. chance after the Beatdown and has responded very well probably knowing that his chances to play in the NHL were dwindling down. Remember other younger players have had 1 or 2 games with the Habs this year and were sent down and may never get the chance again. You don’t get many chances so you have to “grab the Brass Ring” when given the chance. 

  59. TomNickle says:

    To quote a great movie I’m watching right now.

    “If history has taught us anything, it’s that any man can be killed”.

    Well Pierre Gauthier, Greg Sherman is that man, go get em.

  60. LA Loyalist says:

    … and it’s not like we haven’t had regular and bizarre injuries in spades.

    We were gassed by the 3rd round of the playoffs last year. Rivet would be a better and far cheaper move than Souray and a real character guy not a fake character guy like the Smurf(tm)

    Depth, gentlemen, depth. 

  61. Rainrocket16 says:

    Hemsky, penner, and Liles are most likely being watched…

  62. Chorske says:

    Gawd, it’s about time someone on this site posted something negative about Scotty Gomez

  63. LA Loyalist says:

    It was David BECKHAM — he’s changing sports. And his wife will be an ice girl.

    Gotta sell tickets, man.

  64. Chorske says:

    c.f. “Gomez, Scotty”

    also, anything with the words smurf or euro

  65. PrimeTime says:

    Great replies below to this statement to understand how you build a team from within the organization.

  66. king ddd says:

    habs scouting avs-oil game. FFS please PG dont bring in penner. most habs fans want penner but penner is not worth losing our prospects. the guy is  a big teddy bear thats it. i havent seen him intimidate people, other than the fact that he jump drew doughty from the back. hes not 40 goal scorer, he doesnt piss of the opposing goalie, hes like the canadian AK. now why the hell would we want to AK’s on one team

     

    ** Buck Fruins **

  67. LA Loyalist says:

    So where was your great coinage “Halakalites” last summer when we needed it? (sorry if I missed it, it’s pretty good).

  68. Da Hema says:

    Yep. Too many posters here personalise the benching of one of their favorite players. I think Martin usually gets it right. Subban, for example, needed to be benched earlier this season given the then decline of his defensive play and the volume of (ill-advised) gambles he was taking. With Desharnais, I must disagree with Martin. Desharnais did not make any obvious rookie mistakes, and it is difficult to believe he will not, at this point, contribute more than, say, Gomez. That said, I am not worried about Desharnais’s future. He may well become a fixture on this team. We will see as the regular season nears the end and the play gets rougher.

  69. LA Loyalist says:

    I know a situation where Gomez would succeed ;) 

  70. scrowe21 says:

    When and where was Peckham mentioned? I’d like to have him.

  71. newbrunswick troy says:

    LETS NOT ALL KID OURSELVES;  its only one win ..but a very important win (after embarasing themselves the past few games)  THat  said they still need to make a statement these next two game -Leafs & Canes —and that statement will only say “we are a playoff team!!!!”

    Furthermore lets not kid ourselves – its going to take a crafty trade , alittle more time, and alot of luck before this teams statement will be ” We ARE A TRUE CONTENDER”

     

  72. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Here! Here!

    Plekanec is by far the best homegrown talent they have had in a long time. Best of both worlds with him (although he could go on a scoring tear any day now…), he just does it all. Can score and is fantastic on the PK (as Andrew pointed out).

    I am very glad MTL has Pleks and TBL has Vinny.

  73. andrewberkshire says:

    I guess they’re trying to spread the scoring around?

  74. punkster says:

    Bah, Hippos are alarmists ;)

    ***Subbang!!!***


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