Here’s your mask, what’s your hurry?

Red Fisher on the Hawks walking away from a Stanley Cup-winning goaltender

* James Mirtle: Hawks pay the price of success

• A story on the league’s web site lists Montreal as a possible destination for Antti Niemi.

• ESPN Chicago on the Turco signing

Seguin signs

Brian Gionta highlight reel (warning: crap music)

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• Another hard name to spell in at least six game stories: Buffalo signs Shaone Morrisonn

Sabres waive Tim Kennedy

Mike Modano to join the Wings

Updated FA list

• THN’s Ken Campbell on the great Nicklas Lidstrom

Obama will attend a Caps game

• HabsWatch has done an exhaustive study, Crisis in the Q

308 Comments

  1. joeybarrie says:

    Paul Mara type players are how these young and inexperienced DR’s. get the experience needed to become excellent. Mara aint getting the same guy we trust MARKOV too… He should have gone to NY and seen DR. Hank Lawson… I hear he is pretty good…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  2. PeterStone says:

    Dr Harvey is an amazing doctor.  I shattered my wrist in multiple (26) pieces , and he put it back together. 

  3. Mattyleg says:

    For sure. But like you said… they’re not very smart.

    I just hate the idea of that ‘job’. What a joke career.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    Niemi doesn’t make ‘the save’ as often as you think, watched the Blackhawks a lot last season and he had a number of unimpressive performances. Keith, Campbell, Seabrook and Hjalmarsson cleaned up a ton of garbage around his net that could have cost the Hawks the NSh, VAN and PHI series if he’d not had them saving his rear end. Niemi wasn’t a Conn Smythe candidate in these playoffs like Dryden was when he arrived in ’71 either. Niemi blew saves in the post-season as well, NSH/CHI goaltending duel was close to being as bad as the PHI/CHI Finals.

    Even if Turco can’t ‘win it all’, he’s not here to bring them to a Cup, CHI will find someone else, this is a rebuilding year and they need to manage the cap, play competitively and win enough to keep on the fans they just won over. Niemi can be replaced if necessary, he wasn’t their saviour and they needed the cap space for their preferred forwards.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  5. habaddict_andy says:

    Second opinion, everybody does that wether your in Canada or not.

  6. Clay4bc says:

    Well then…a rebuttal is in order.

    Since you are having trouble figuring it out…we did not improve our team one bit by this trade. In fact, we made it worse by a good margin, as we are now very weak in arguably the single most important position in hockey – goaltending. Add to that the fact that this team was last place in even strangth scoring last season, that’s a recipe for disaster, being as how we did nothing to address the scoring issues. Eller may be good for 15 goals next season – if he makes the team. Metropolit had more than that. So did MAB. So that’s a huge net loss in scoring as well.

    Why did we “have to toss the dice one way or another”? And if it was one way, why not make it the way that sees you keep the better goalie? And don’t give me “the cap” as an answer, because right now we could afford Halak’s salary.

    __________________________

    Carey Price killed my dog.

  7. mike g says:

    Good points..

    I agree.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  8. ZepFan2 says:

    I’ll ask my Dr. the next time I see him if that’s a true story.

    My Dr. is Ed Harvey . He should be privy to that info.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  9. mike g says:

    ‘Sup boys….

    Was just clicking around on the net and found this nice article on Fox Sports. Very interesting take on the Sabres, and what could have been if they woulda let Vanek go to the Oilers…

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/What-if-Buffalo-Sabres-Thomas-Vanek-became-an-Edmonton-Oiler-073110

    Someone in Buffalo must be fired because of this, because in MTL we’d be burning up the city.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  10. ed lopaz says:

    Turco does not have a history of winning the key games when his team needs it.

    Turco does not make the huge save when it is needed.

    No matter how good your defence is, and I saw the Habs Robinson, Savard, Lapointe for years in front of

    Dryden, no matter how good they were, Dryden STILL NEEDED TO COME UP BIG AT LEAST A COUPLE OF TIMES

    EVERY GAME.

    If you face 25 shots or 50, you could still face the same 3 or 4 EXCELLENT scoring chances, and the goalies

    need to make those KEY saves.

    Defense can NOT stop the other team from getting 0 chances

    Defence can only HELP TO LIMIT the chances.

    however, because so few goals are scored, it only takes 1 or 2 BLOWN SAVES, and the best defence will lose.

    that’s the way the game is played.

    it has not changed in the last 18 months.

  11. joeybarrie says:

    Sometimes I just have to ask myself. Is a requirement of being a FAN of a team actually LIKING the team? Or is it simply waiting for any piece of bad news, mistake or controversy, blowing it out of proportion and rewriting the issue according to personal issues?

    I honestly wonder how many people REALLY like this Club. It’s obvious how many ACTUALLY support it. FEW is the answer. Monetary wise it has ALOT of support. But then again most people say what they think and don’t actually have the conviction to do anything about it…

    Sometimes I wonder if certain ‘FANS’ actually get ANY enjoyment out of the team or sport…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  12. ZepFan2 says:

    “Halak was a great goalie on an OK team.”

    I believe that line was used for Theodore as well.

    Clay, you’re sounding more delusional today. Hope you feel better.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  13. ed lopaz says:

    who do think HIRES the agent?

    do you think the players have any say in the matter of who represents them?

    do you give the players any credit at all for that decision?

    the players are grown men making a decision about who will represent them.

    some players choose not to have an agent at all.

    its the players choice afterall.

     

  14. adam76 says:

    Way to many “ifs”

  15. adam76 says:

    Almost as ridiculous as the consistent posting of fanboy “mashup” videos.

  16. SeriousFan09 says:

    Niemi didn’t exactly have a Halakian workload with the CHI defence. He happened to make a few more saves than Leighton but that doesn’t mean he should get double what Leighton’s getting this season.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  17. Mattyleg says:

    It’s the agents who fill the players’ head with dreams of big money, not the owners.

    It’s the agents who push for bigger deals for bigger paydays themselves.

    It’s the agents who make the final decision on what the player is ‘worth’, even though they are not involved with the team as a whole, as the management is.

    It’s the agent who doesn’t even live in the same city as the player, and blows in every now and then claiming to know what’s best.

    Agents protect their own interests.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  18. SeriousFan09 says:

    You mean that 4-game sweep where they walked over the Sharks? It wasn’t some titantic battle that lasted to Game 7 and was nearly flipped several times but only because of miraculous saves a la Halak in Game 7 of WSH that was the series saved for the Blackhawks. Regardless of how well Niemi played then, he had an oustanding defence covering his mistakes and 3 lines of scoring depth to hammer the Sharks on the other end. Niemi has one year of playoff stats that are hardly impressive considering the blue line coverage he had.

    Turco has a career playoff Save % of .914 and GAA of 2.17 in post-season going by official NHL stats and the Dallas Stars have hardly enjoyed an elite defensive group like Niemi enjoyed in CHI also. Perhaps he like most goalies, needs a little help so he doesn’t have to be ‘the guy’ every game because he doesn’t have any defensive help.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  19. Thomas Le Fan says:

    No. Since you’re having trouble figuring it out, we either over pay for an unproven goaltender who did not win the cup, do not improve where we most needed to and along the way lose Price for nothing. We stay the same or we get something for one of our goalies. We could be in the same situation as Chicago. How would you like to be a Hawks’ fan this morning? Goaltender gone and nothing in return. Was it the best way to go for us? Only time will tell. But we had to toss the dice, one way or another, didn’t we? Posters either crying over losing Halak or over losing Price was inevitable. No? Let’s move on.      

  20. observer says:

    yes, 2 bewildering decisions! proving again that hockey gms are not the brightest bulbs in the room!

  21. observer says:

    Washington, Philly, San Jose, Detroit?

  22. Mattyleg says:

    Great idea!!! An agent cap!!

    What a joke of a ‘job’. Completely unskilled labor for huge reward.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  23. observer says:

    “If Leighton had won the Cup with the Flyers, would you say that journeyman deserved 3 million a year?” —- bad analogy. leighton only was successful when no shots were directed at him like almost one whole period by the habs. and when habs were so impotent to score zero goals in 3 games. leighton stunk out the place in the finals. niemi played well almost the entire playoffs.

  24. Mattyleg says:

    You are, of course, joking.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  25. ed lopaz says:

    agents are the ones protecting the player’s interests.

    many hockey players are not that bright when it comes to contracts and money.

    they play hockey.

    its the owners who write the checks, not the agents.

    if the owners choose not to pay, then as in the Niemi case, the agent loses.

    its the GM on behalf of the owners who make the final decision not the agents.

    its the owners who are risking their money, therefore they decide who gets paid.

  26. Mattyleg says:

    Yep, couldn’t agree more.

    Anybody who goes to arbitration has their own agenda in mind more than the team’s. Nobody is satisfied and it causes bad blood. Michael Ryder’s relationship with the Habs was never the same after he went to arbitration.

    Anybody who does that, then moans that he’s out on his… ear… can cry me a frickkin’ river.

    My hope is that agents and players will look at this little morality play and actually learn something out of it.

    I don’t hold much hope for the agents, though.

    Bloodsuckers.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  27. volcano62 says:

    Ummmmm AC/DC crap? Boone wishes he was as legendary as the boys from the land down under. That is the most ridiculous statement I have ever heard.

     

    Go Habs Go!

  28. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Well, not to worry. Soon the US will have the same crappy medical system as we have, so problem solved.  

  29. SeriousFan09 says:

    Doctors also make mistakes from time to time, I’m sure this wasn’t the first case of a sports injury being misdiagnosed.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  30. RGM says:

    I’m guessing it wouldn’t have been Mulder in that case.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  31. ed lopaz says:

    as was pointed out below – and I believe correctly – Niemi was a KEY FACTOR in allowing the Hawks to get past the Sharks.

    if they don’t get through that series – a series where the Sharks played very well by the way – the Hawks

    do NOT advance, and the rest of the discussion regarding the Cup run never happens.

    same story with our goaltending.

    when we absolutely needed a hot performance – during the 5 elimination games – our goalie came through.

    goaltending is about making the KEY saves at the KEY moment – or winning the important game when your team absolutely needs to win.

    example:

    take the playoff stats of Turco and you’ll find that he has a save percentage well under 3.00 and GAA around

    .910 – and he’s played in many. many games, so these stats are quite statistically relevant.

    HOWEVER,

    Turco has a reputation of NOT MAKING the key save, and NOT WINNING THE KEY game.

    Therefore, many have criticized Turco.

    Niemi was HOT when the Hawks needed hot goaltending – against the Sharks.

    Therefore, Niemi was a KEY FACTOR in the Hawks Cup run.

  32. Mattyleg says:

    Now I understand… it’s ALWAYS the managment’s fault. Whether they give contracts that are too big or try to ‘low-ball’ players.

    I disagree that “A goalie who wins a Cup should get $3 mil”. Says who? Play a couple more years and earn that with consistency.

    Agents are on of the main reasons our game is in such a miserable state. It’s not 1940 anymore, the days of Richard-esque extortion are over (with thanks to the work of agents etc in the past) but let’s move on.

    Call the exterminator, get the parasites out.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. Bred says:

    Hell’s Bells is the reason why I bought my first Guitar….

    Boone, I and many others are disapointed.

  34. Ian Cobb says:

    Halak was a goalie on a 4th placed team!!

  35. smiler2729 says:

    I really hate crap music.

    I really could not care less that Antti Niemi is not returning to Chicago.

    I really am sick of Ilya Nous Vous Ils Kovy II. Overrated, overvalued.

    I really never liked Mike Modano.

    I really am in a bad mood today. Working in a Chrsyler plant (engine part foundry) in this humidity is gonna suuuck.

  36. Ian Cobb says:

    Team sport, play for each other is the name of the game. Spreading the cap more evenly throughout the line up is the way to go.

    Get rid of the fat cat agents. There should be a cap on them also.! My blog

  37. ed lopaz says:

    ever wonder what happened to Paul Mara?

    we all know he injured his shoulder and then eventually had surgery.

    what we didn’t know, and I found out yesterday, is that Mara went to Boston to have his surgery done.

    seems – according to my source who talked to Mara DIRECTLY – the Habs doctors misdiagnosed his original

    injury and thought he was suffering from a bruise.

    Mara went to Boston to get a second opinion and they found a tear in his shoulder.

    When Mara informed the Habs, they had him checked again in Montreal, confirmed the tear, and suggested he have surgery by the same doctor who originally blew the diagnosis.

    Mara refused, and went to Boston.

    Mara and the Habs never discussed re-newing his contract.

    Mara was really upset – his year was blown and his career was threatened.

    He described the Habs doctor who saw him as “young and very inexperienced” but I didn’t get the doctor’s name.

     

     

  38. SeriousFan09 says:

    Even if that goalie wasn’t one of the main reasons they won the Cup and managed to be slightly better than Let-It-In? If Leighton had won the Cup with the Flyers, would you say that journeyman deserved 3 million a year? Plenty of goalies could win the Cup but not deserve that amount of coin. Turco with Keith/Seabrook and Campbell/Hjalmarsson will be good enough to place in the Top 8.

    Hawks have their Top-4 defence intact and Hossa, Toews, Kane and Sharp, that’s some pretty good offence and their system has solid prospects. The West has seen the decline of Anaheim, Detroit and now Chicago from dominant hockey powers, it’s becoming a more wide-open Conference, especially since San Jose will likely choke when it counts again.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  39. G-Man says:

    If you’re going to be that sarcastic, use italics.

  40. 24 Cups says:

    M – I guess you would have to be in on the talks but it sure looks like Zito let his client down.  Cup winning team, solid D in front, Huet on the way out and a tight cap situation.  After only one year in the NHL, you might have thought that Niemi could have taken a thre year deal for average coin so that he could continue to develop and prove himself.  He then might be able to parlay that into a mega deal as a UFA when he’s 30.

    Outside of Kovy II, this year’s UFA market has been about defensemen, not goalies.  Zito played his cards the wrong way (especially seeing that the cupboard was bare) and now it appears that Niemi might just have to take the fall.  The true meaning of the NHL cap is now being felt.  Some young, high end core players hit paydirt while everybody else scrambles for what is left.

  41. RGM says:

    It’s one of those funny things that whenever “X goalie is available” discussions arise, Philly is automatically a candidate. Beyond them, almost everybody is set, it’ll come down to whether or not a team actually feels secure with what they have. If San Jose didn’t have Greiss, they’d probably be thinking about taking a chance on it since it’s not as if Nittymaki is going to be the guy that leads them to playoff success.
    —————————————–
    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  42. G-Man says:

    Hawks’ inept cap management is the reason. Not the player agent. A goalie who wins a Cup should get $3 mil and not be low-balled. The way they’re going, Chicago will have a lot of trouble winning enough to make the playoffs.

  43. Clay4bc says:

    Fixed it for you…

    I agree with you but trading him was still the move to makeif Eller turns into a top-6 forward, and Price signs and plays to his potential.

    Too many “if’s” there to be sure now. If both of these things happen, I agree as well.

    __________________________

    Carey Price killed my dog.

  44. RGM says:

    I’m sure that both are disappointed – Niemi was well-liked by his teammates and did contribute to the Cup win, and since it’s doubtful he’ll get $2.75M with another team, that means less for the agent too. Everybody loses. LOL

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  45. Batalla says:

    That highlight reel was a bit weak.  How many actual goals were there?  5?  In any case, the music was not crap (even though I’m not a fan of AC/DC) since that seems to be the soundtrack to the NHL and a classic tune at that.  I would say the crap music is the dull, boring, blues/jazz stuff that typically makes its way onto this site.  Thank God there is no highlight reel made on that!

  46. Mattyleg says:

    I got mixed up because Mason is still on an entry-level contract.

    Yeah, I know about Edmonton, but it’s no more outside than Montreal… Deslauriers is only on for this year, and is a UFA next year.

    Philly’s a good guess.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  47. RGM says:

    Steve Mason is entering his third full season in the NHL. Given that he won the Calder in the 2008-09 seasoon, I don’t think he qualifies under the rookie banner any more.

    Edmonton is a very outside chance given how much they have tied up in Khabibulin, plus they just re-signed Deslauriers and also have Dubnyk in the system.

    My guess? Philadelphia. Sure they locked up the guy that took them to the Cup Finals, but now they have a chance to also sign the guy that sucked less than their guy.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  48. Mr Dobby says:

    I agree with you but trading him was still the move to make.

  49. Mattyleg says:

    “He’s disappointed” says his agent.

    Uhh… who’s disappointed? Who makes money off the player and made sure he pushed him to arbitration?

    Gimme a break Bill Zito. You’re the reason he’s not in Chicago now.

    Parasite.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

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  51. Clay4bc says:

    Halak will not and can NOT duplicate his performance….because YOU said so? Oh…then I guess it’s settled, then. Thanks for that.

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    Carey Price killed my dog.

  52. RiverviewCanadien says:

    yeah I am not a fan of Coldplay either…

    Now where is some reels with The Ramones, NOFX, Dropkick Murphy’s, Green Day, Rise Against, heck I would take Diana Krall over most crap out there etc

    Actually the first video compilation of Pouliot I saw had Give it All by Rise Against playing. That was pretty good.

  53. Clay4bc says:

    Here’s some perspective for you…

    Niemi was an OK goalie on a great team. Halak was a great goalie on an OK team.

    Big difference there.

    __________________________

    Carey Price killed my dog.

  54. 24 Cups says:

    Lose-lose situation for Hawks, Niemi.

  55. Psycho29 says:

    I could worn a jock and nothing else and won a cup with the Blackhawks!

    (Believe me, none of you need that image so early in the morning!!!!!!)

    :-)

  56. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Brian Gionta reel was a nice treat. Sure, the AC/DC song is about 30 years old, but not crap. Last year it seems EVERY video reel was backed up by a Coldplay song. Now folks, that’s crap music! :)

  57. Rugger says:

    That’s Alternate or alternating not alternative

  58. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Not a fan of AC/DC…so I agree, crap music.

  59. W35T5ID3 says:

    Agreed….Niemi’s a stiff….I could’a won the cup with the Hawks if i were in net….eeeeshhhh……………..Halak to Blues deal was outstanding for the habs.Eller’s gonna be a stud and the future first line centre of this team.Schultz is a gritty guy with skill and toughness that i think will pan out for this team ……Halak will not and can NOT duplicate his ridiculous performance that he had for us in the playoffs with the blues…..he simply cant.THEREFORE  we win this deal cuz ELLER rules!

  60. arcosenate says:

    Unfortunate crap reference to AC/DC. 

     

  61. Mattyleg says:

    My bet on Niemi’s destination…

    Columbus.

    All they have is Garon (UFA next year) and Steve Mason, a rookie.

    I see Edmonton as an outside chance.

    Any other guesses?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  62. W35T5ID3 says:

     Who are AC/DC?

    Are you talking about alternative and direct currents?

     

  63. W35T5ID3 says:

          I bet he wins the calder for rookie of the year next year.I can feel it.His potential to be a dynamic player is unbelievable….I would rather have him on my Habs than hall or seguin…..That’s how highly i think of this kid.He’s gonna be special.

  64. Thomas Le Fan says:

    The Stanley Cup champs drop the goalie “who won it for them” and get nothing for him. So. All those still weeping over Halak’s (who I’ll remind you, did not win cup) trade …  perspective anyone?    

  65. Mattyleg says:

    Whadda ya mean Habs fans would go to a hockey page on August 3rd just because you mentioned their team?

    …oh.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  66. Ian Cobb says:

    A bit green yet, but he will be our captain down the road for sure. (unlike George green)

  67. HabFanSince72 says:

    Musical tastes vary. I hear there are even people who still listen to CHOM-FM.

    I don’t think AC/DC are that good, but within their incredibly restricted genre, they had 4-5 good songs, and that’s one of them.

  68. W35T5ID3 says:

    My stupid azz morning thought that i know most of you will probably not agree with me in:

     

    —-Captain?We went all last season and no captain……is there any rush?Really?Presumably we could go another full season without another captain but Jacques martin has stated otherwise.A captain will be named for this upcoming season.

         However,in my opinion,and i know its probably not really agreed upon by all of you,but,i think that helllll we should go another year with a group of leaders totin’ the “A” on the sweater.No captain,again.Why?Because there really isnt an ABSOLUTE stand out candidate to sport the C.If there wasn’t last season….is there this season?It’s not like the team has changed drastically this summer.In fact, i propose we go another year w/o a captain ….and then following season proceed to name the eventual and 100% only true captain material on this squad ….P.K. Subban.

        Sure,he’s young,full of himself and all that but above and beyond all he’s TOTALLY habs captain material.He bleeds habs….ever since he was a kid…..he’s constantly trying to improve,skies the limit for Subban and he’s already a spectacularly unique player.He loves this team and he’ll be here for a long time……I love his raw ability and his awesome potential…..Godddamnnnit…..WHo’s wit’ me?!??!!!!

     

     

    P.K. all tha way…..

  69. HabFanSince72 says:

    Why even mention the Canadiens in this conversation?

    To get people to visit your site.

    How many Thrashers fans do you think are looking for stories about their team (even obviously bogus ones)?

    The writer even admits we already have Price and don’t have the cap space for Niemi anyway.

     

  70. madmat411 says:

    Hey Boone! How Is AC/DC Crap Music!?!?!?!?!

  71. punkster says:

    Mike, your HabsWatch article isn’t linked correctly

    FREE TIMO!

  72. J Haul says:

    Why the heck would we trade away a more talented version of niemi and then sign him at that high price tag? Why even mention the Canadiens in this conversation? Silly nhl.com…

  73. Number31 says:

    Red must have been watching a different Stanley Cup final. It definitely wasn’t a goalie duel…

    Hawks did want to keep him, though. They tried to work out a deal before arbitration and for the long term but for whatever reason it didn’t happen. Now they got Turks, and Crawford coming through their system who’s capable of doing the same job for cheap. As a big Turco fan I know his best days are behind him, however maybe this might excite him enough to inspire his play.

    It’s business, Mr. Fisher. This isn’t the same League anymore.

  74. Bill says:

    It’s hard to believe Lidstrom is 40. Truly ageless.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  75. Max_a_million says:

    When the Stanley Cup winning goaltender can’t be traded and is subsequently dropped at less than 3 million, it makes you think PG pulled off a hell of deal getting Eller and Schultz for Halak. 

    Not to mention how many complained about the timing, and playing out the string to increase the payout.  It seems as though the payout would have diminished if Niemi was out there increasing the supply of young goaltenders available.  It seems like PG’s time was just about perfect. 

    ”Last season we couldn’t win at home and we were losing on the road. My failure was that I couldn’t think of any place else to play.” – Harry Neale

  76. Bill J says:

    Good post.

    Agreed, had PG waited.  And the Blues had got wind of the intent to drop Niemi, Halak would never have fetched Eller & Schultz.

    And I can only imagine the uprising that would have ensued.

  77. Mr-T says:

    What a absurd and downright stupid statement not to mention a very poor analogy. PG pulled off a hell of a deal and his timing was just about perfect is so far from even being conceivable it is incongruous in itself. ” Brilliance” and PG in the same sentence are incompatible. The only thing that could have occured had PG waited was that he would have received a much better return for Halak.                                                                                            

     

     

    Support Carey Price      “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”

  78. HardHabits says:

    Hell’s Bells by AC/DC is a friggin’ classic. I don’t know if Boone’s being sarcastic but I kind of doubt it considering he thinks the Grateful Dead is awesome.

  79. SeriousFan09 says:

    Right the **** on, AC/DC forever.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  80. Puck Bard says:

    Niemi to Habs:  “besides the obvious flaws in logic and reason”Yes… Yes there are.

    ‘Samatter Boone, no ACDC for you? Give in a little. 

    Brian Johnson doing Sunday Girl; now that I’d like to see.

  81. nickster13 says:

    Who knows, maybe then we could have kept Halak

  82. nickster13 says:

    Is anyone else besides me a little dissapointed with Red Fisher’s article? He made Niemi sound like a superstar in the playoffs… i dont remember seeing a superstar, i only remember an average/above average goalie who did the minimum, so i think it was a good move, to save a few dollars in an easily replaceable position for them

  83. Puck Bard says:

    I’m with you (again) Nickster. Just didn’t want to get on a rant again about Fisher.

  84. SeriousFan09 says:

    Very disappointed indeed, it was the Chicago D that made the Cup happen well above Niemi.

    I’ll say this right now, Antti Niemi will NEVER have a 7-shutout regular season without a D group like Chicago’s covering for him again.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  85. Ian Cobb says:

    These individuals must learn that this is still a team sport, and there agents have to stop reading the press clippings and asking for the moon.

    The day of asking for this crazy money is over. The cap has to be spread over the team more evenly if they are going to succeed. TEAM SPORT

  86. 24 Cups says:

    I trust that Mike Boone is pulling our leg about the music provided by AC/DC. They surely have to be one of the top ten bands of all time.

    Chicago has certainly paid a heavy price for signing Campbell and Huet.

  87. Puck Bard says:

    I wouldn’t be too sure. At the time, I found ACDC’s simplicity hard to take given all the directions “New Wave” was going.  It took me a good 10 years before I began to appreciate them. Suspect Boone might have the same ears. 

  88. Ian Cobb says:

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  89. Ian Cobb says:

    Price will also be playing in Europe if he does not get the picture about proving he is an NHL er first before demanding the big contract. Fortunately the big extortion days are slowly grinding to a halt now that the cap is starting to take hold.

    There are a lot of good goal tenders out there willing to play behind one of the best shot blocking teams in the league. Just ask Halak. The boys helped him look very good indeed, and we were able to move him for some decent assets.

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  90. nickster13 says:

    Let’s give credit where credit is due, halak is a solid keeper.

  91. HabFanSince72 says:

    Fortunately the big extortion days are slowly grinding to a halt

    No hope of that. The owners will still push ticket prices to the max.

    All the cap means is the money goes to the owners instead of the players.

     

  92. Mr-T says:

    What an intuitive thinker you are. Maybe it would be prudent to evaluate what they are capable of at the NHL level before you quantify their market value. In your analysis you seemed to have left out the fact that he helped the boys look very good also.                                                                                                            

     

     

    Support Carey Price       “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            

  93. nickster13 says:

    I know, i hated that rant too, it was unjust, i dont think Red is over the hill or not a good writer or anything, i just really didnt agree with his buttering up of Niemi and making it sound like it was fact

  94. Ian Cobb says:

    I am not saying he is not a solid keeper. I am saying that the price tag for these many keepers is about half what their agents want. Lots of solid keepers out there that are willing to play for a million, including me.!

  95. Ian Cobb says:

    Absolutely correct 09—Good defensive play gives shooters poorer angle shots. Ask Halak and watch his game go for a dump this year. Good tender yes, but it is still a team sport.

  96. HabFanSince72 says:

    Niemi was outstanding against the Sharks. San Jose actually dominated in shots and scoring chances in three of the four games.

     

  97. Ian Cobb says:

    Team sport, play for each other is the name of the game. Spreading the cap more evenly through out the line up is the way to go.

  98. Ian Cobb says:

    I have received money orders for 15 more in the
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    so you know that I received your money order and all requested
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    But remember what we don’t pay for will go on sale to the general public for more money in a couple of weeks.

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    It
    sure looks like a larger group this year, Come out and have a great
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  99. scrowe21 says:

    Almost every fan video posted so far as had “crap” music….this is muuuuuch better.

     

    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21

  100. likehoy says:

    how is andy sutton worth the same amount as hal gill?

  101. scrowe21 says:

    I dunno but he can throw HUGE hits at the blueline. seen him lay out so many people

    ——–If you play nhl10 for xbox360 add me – scrowe21

  102. Mr-T says:

    ACDC….An astute strategy by Boone that just capitchulates you into giving a response.                                                   

     

    Support Carey Price        “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                                  

  103. alestar says:

    Boone just put that in to pad the post count. He plans on using the inflated numbers to justify his demands for an increased per diem for those 4 hour lunches at the tavern.

    XXIV…and counting

  104. derfab says:

    Red is off on this one and should know better than to mess with another Bowman. Turco is a quality goaltender. Niemi covers the bottom of the net well and played well but also allowed some very untimely goals to keep inferior teams in games they were all but out of. He was not an mvp candidate and is not the reason Chicago won anything.  All considered, a gutsy move by Chicago.

    character is derfab destiny.

  105. andrewberkshire says:

    RiverviewCanadien: Nope, not a fan of Green Day at all. Can’t stand Billy Joe, and I can’t stand how amazingly cocky they are as a group. I hated them after ‘American Idiot’, but what really lost every ounce of my respect was when they covered ‘Working Class Hero’. To have the balls to cover that song, and completely ruin it… Disgusting.

  106. TomNickle says:

    There really is no debating that Green Day sold out Andrew because they did.  Not that 90% of musical groups don’t but not liking their music isn’t really a bad thing.  I can’t stand anything they’ve done since 1995 to be honest.

  107. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Green Day is presently one of the most popular bands around. I, personally, enjoyed their music since 1994’s Dookie. The “American Idiot” album was a swipe at the Bush administration’s policies and right wing conservatism. When they covered Lennon’s “Working Class Hero”, they asked permission from Yoko as to not insult John’s legacy. She very much enjoyed their version and gave them her blessing. She was especially moved at the end of the song when they used John Lennon’s voice. I covet the original and would rather listen to the Lennon version, but the way they went about covering that classic, I think showed respect.

  108. likehoy says:

    used to be a fan of green day when i was a teen…they they just got too mainstream to sell records

    anyone attend Osheaga this past weekend?

  109. ooder says:

    I’m 21 and i have given up on modern “rock” quite a while ago.

    a bunch of pretentious whiny wannabes

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  110. SeriousFan09 says:

    All the music groups are a bunch of cocky ***holes when it comes to the mainstream scene, but whatever. I started not listening to groups because I didn’t like them for something they did, I’d not listen to anybody. I like Green Day, if the music isn’t your style I can respect that but i’d say you’re pushing it a bit far.

    I hate it when Metallica gets covered by hack artists, but I don’t condemn them for it completely. I have a bad ear for music so I tend to respect anyone who can play an instrument if they use their talent well, even if I can’t stand their music (and that includes the Beatles).

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  111. Adam says:

    I liked American Idiot, there were some pretty decent songs on there. And as a professional music critic, I must be right.

     

    That last part about always being right is a joke, just so we’re clear.

  112. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Fair enough. I really don’t care about the Lennon thing though (John has been dead for a long time…besides wasn’t it just a single for a charity album??? EDIT: yes it was for an Amnesty International Album which featured artists covering Lennon’s music).

    I have loved their music ever since their Lookout Record days prior to exploding onto the scene with Dookie (creating ‘Pop-Punk’ – which they always were, it just became popular within my generation). Screeching Weasel is one of my all-time fav bands (after the Ramones). I was actually supposed to tour with a band signed to Lookout records called “The Queers” back in ’96 (easy there fellas…not what you think).

    Personally I am a HUGE fan of punk rock. There really is not too many genres of music I do not listen to from time to time.

    Calling them a sellout is not in my vocabulary, hell if making money doing what you love is selling out, then that goes for anything remotely popular out there today.

  113. Storm Man says:

    I hope someone emails the habswatch article to Bertrand Raymond and Rejean Tremblay it will give them something both to chew on today.

  114. andrewberkshire says:

    I have no problem with musical groups “selling out”, that’s how they make money, and ultimately that’s what they’re in it for. What I have a problem with is the ego of a band becoming so out of reality that they decide to cover John Lennon. With Green Day however I’ve never really liked their particular style of music because I’m not a fan of punk, and I’m most definitely not a fan of pop-punk. Just thought I’d explain my reasoning to RC as he seemed disappointed in my dismissal of Green Day.

  115. TomNickle says:

    In many cases it’s more exploiting than it is covering or in the case of Wake me up when September ends.

    That song was truly sickening to hear for me.  It was shameless in my opinion.  There was nothing politically alarming about that song.  It was a money maker from the start and not a humanitarian project.

     

  116. kempie says:

    It bugged me when they covered All The Young Dudes and called it 21 Guns.

  117. andrewberkshire says:

    Completely agreed.

  118. andrewberkshire says:

    Yeah, I don’t consider asking Yoko respecting Lennon. And Yoko liking the remake, if anything, shows how terrible it was, because she’s one of the worst musicians in history.

    As for American Idiot, it was SO fake. They waited until bashing Bush was popular, and then blasted a record out about it trying to capture the zeitgeist. It worked for them unfortunately. 

  119. Jordio-oh says:

    This is just too good not to share. Everyone needs to watch at least one of this guys video blogs in order to fully appreciate what leaf fans are about.

    I actually can’t stop laughing at work.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bushkorn#p/u/14/Nz8j0AjMGO8

  120. adam76 says:

    That man is the perfect reflection of the Leafs fanbase.

  121. Say Ash says:

    Thanks for that, totally cheered me up this morning. That’s some great koolaid those fans have access to.

  122. mike g says:

    That kid needs a hot-dog in his mouth and a baseball bat to the head….

    It’s just beyond me how any fan of the Leafs can bash the Sens or Habs’ elimination. It either takes a popcorn faced douche like that kid, or a 9 year old…

    LOL, anyways

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  123. ZepFan2 says:

    “Have fun golfing in June, Habs. hahaha”

    He’s right. After the Leafs get thru with their golfing in May, the courses are sh!t.

    This says it all about that clown and all the other Leaf clowns…”leaf fans, have less brains then a puck.”

    ————————————————————————

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  124. alestar says:

    That dude is about 5 cans short of a six pack…its kinda sad, actually.

    Leafs Nation, indeed!

    XXIV…and counting

  125. Jordio-oh says:

    He’s got dozens of video blogs, but this one is my favorite so far:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Bushkorn#p/u/40/HOfegyvBDrs

     

  126. andrewberkshire says:

    Now we know what Jeff does in his spare time while not trolling HIO.

  127. Mark C says:

    B’s sign Seguin to a max entry level contract.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nhl/news/story?id=5433743

  128. TomNickle says:

    Rask, Krejci, Bergeron, Colborne, Caron, Marchand, Hammil, McQuaid, Seguin, Spponer.

    Not to mention the lottery pick coming this next off-season.

    That team is looking good for a few years.  Can’t believe they traded that 16th overall pick for Horton but I guess when the cupboard’s full, there’s no need to hand onto a mid range first rounder.

  129. Rudy says:

    Why is Huet no longer on Chicago’s roster at Capgeek?

  130. Fire_Laraque says:

    In the minors?

  131. Fire_Laraque says:

    I still can’t believe how stupid Burke was to trade his first rounder for Kessel.

  132. mike g says:

    Boston will be a serious team for the next 4-5 years….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  133. TomNickle says:

    So far the trade has landed Boston Tyler Seguin, Ryan Spooner and the Leafs’ first round draft choice next season.

    Oh, and it alleviated the Bruins of $5 million in salary.

  134. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bergeron is less of a problem nowadays, he and Savard are probably each one more hit away from having to consider retirement or just losing most of their top-end ability, concussions can’t be cured. Bergeron is becoming a paper asset for their depth chart at his current rate.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  135. Fire_Laraque says:

    I know.  It’s effin crazy.  Lopsided to the max.  But hey, Kuddos to Ciarelli.  Wonder if PG would’ve been able to land this one.

  136. TomNickle says:

    Only if they rebuild their crop of defensemen.  Beyond Chara there isn’t much there.  I like Boychuk but he isn’t going to be a top 3 guy in the NHL.

    The smartest move they could make would be to send a package that doesn’t include the pick they got from Toronto to the Leafs for Kaberle.

    Kaberle not being a Leaf assures the Toronto squad of last place in the league in my opinion.

    They can get themselves the first overall pick in next year’s draft if they pull it off.

  137. TomNickle says:

    He played 73 games this season and if I’m not mistaken the only games he missed were the result of a wrist injury.

    I’d put that team’s current roster and field of prospects up against anybody else’s in the NHL.  The Los Angeles Kings are the only team I would consider better as far as NHL ready talent and developing prospects.

  138. Mark C says:

    All in the name of truculence…oh, wait Keseel is one of the softest players in the league. I know it takes all types of players to win, yet I find it hard to believe that Burke gave up so much value for a one dimensional player. 

  139. mike g says:

    Well they have to start off by re-signing him, he’s a UFA after this year…

    If that’s done, I think they’re 1 top 3 d-man away from being Cup contenders in the East. They’ve got Boychuk, Chara, Siedenberg, and Ference now. Kaberle would be good, but I don’t see Burke sending him to Boston without grabbing his 2011 1st round pick back. So Kabs to Boston is dead IMO…

    But if I was Chiarelli, I’d go after a UFA like Willie Mitchell, if he’s recovered from his concussion issues. He’d be a solid d-man to sign for 2-3 year, for about 2.5 mill. I was surprised they weren’t able to get Cam Barker from Chicago last year. Barker’s trade to Minny for Kim Johnson was such a bad trade for the Hawks, I’m sure the Bruins could have made a much better package.

    And Barker fits the Bruins profile..

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  140. SeriousFan09 says:

    The issues are his previous concussions, he has one this year it could start a real Lindros-style decline in his ability.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  141. TomNickle says:

    True, but until he has that concussion he’s a good, productive and sometimes elite player that isn’t just a name on paper.

  142. JD_ says:

    I won’t take no prisoners, won’t spare no lives
    Nobody’s puttin’ up a fight
    I got my bell, I’m gonna take you to hell
    I’m gonna get you, Satan get you

    Hell’s Bells!

    * Hell yeah! Beer funnels, bongs, ‘n’ babes. So many wonderful memories. That Booner, what a kidder.

    * Read this hilarious satirical piece in the Gazoo’s sports section this mornin’. Drippin’ with irony. Beyond me how the author was able to keep a straight face through the whole thing. I understand he’ll be publishin’ his “Just Kiddin’, Y’All” follow-up in tomorrow’s edition. Good one, Red, really had me goin’ there for a sec.

    * Mike Modano’s a Wing. Good on ‘im. Makes sense for both sides. Besides, what’s there not to like about a guy whose agent was netmindin’ during one of my favourite Habs goals of all time, 1986 Habs’ rookie Claude Lemieux’s Adams Division Final Game 7 OT marker against the hapless Whalers. On a related note, Kevin Dineen’s still a bastich.

    * Seguin signs and the Broonz move one step closer. If they can keep it together, dump the Thomas & Ryder contractual brain cramps, and the Loafs perform as expected next season, watch out. Have no doubt that Broonz president, and resident Ulf Samuelsson Must Die t-shirt bearer, Cam Neely will send Burke a ring if and when things come to pass.

    * Carey Price hasn’t signed. In other news, cancelled an outing to LaRonde today due to overall raininess. Unfortunate as I was lookin’ forward to havin’ my heart blow clear out of my chest whilst endurin’ that first drop on the Goliath. Not quite New Jersey’s sick insane Kingda Ka – Holy FS, indeed – but good times, nevertheless.

    * Holy Lord, that LoafsDouche in Jordio-oh’s video link is a pretty sad piece of work. If you’ve ever wondered how the term “loser” came about, wonder no more. Wanker galore. Literally.

  143. sidhu says:

    Not sure if this has been posted before — or if anyone cares — but it seems Eller will wear #60 this season:

    http://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/17866165154

     

  144. Psycho29 says:

    The audacity of giving Theodore’s number to another player!!!

    :-)

  145. habs03 says:

    I think he might be wearing 81 after all, I also read he was going to wear 60 but its been changed to 81, 81 is the number tagged to his name on the Canadians website,

  146. Psycho29 says:

    Marcel Hossa’s old number?!?!?!??! You’ve GOT to be joking…

  147. mrhabby says:

    aside from the golden boy thing..why not trade price and sign neimi…sounds good to me. the cost has already been established for neimi and we could get some very decent pics for price…

  148. habs03 says:

    I find it more suitable for a Centre, 60 is just a weird number to me for a forward.

  149. Xtrahabsfan says:

    If Price doesn’t sign soon Gauthier should just get grab Ray Emery, if his surgery when well.Then Ray can do the fighting and netminding…..

  150. K-hab25 says:

    Thomas, Niemi and now Emery. As long as it’s not Price, right. Like I always said Price fans, are just that, Price fans. Halak fans,the majority anyway, are just Price haters in disguise. Has Biron signed yet? I have a feeling he’ll be your bright idea for tomorrow.

  151. Storm Man says:

    Biron is with the Rangers. I don’t think he is that dumb but if his brother in manapart one never knows.

  152. K-hab25 says:

    You wanna sign a 27 year old with 1 year of experience, to a 2.75 mill contract and trade the 22 year old with 3 years experience. Ohh that’s right, his “team” won the cup, so he’s worth it. Sign him and it’s cup here we come. I do find it funny the team he was on, doesn’t think he’s worth that much to keep, but people on here do. Let me just say I’m extremely happy that you and xtra don’t have a say, or we would be overpaying garbage like Thomas, Niemi or Emery.

  153. RGM says:

    http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j145/Jvchequer/ichmfacepalm.jpg

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  154. ed lopaz says:

    I’m trying to understand your post.

    you’re saying that certain habs fans who “say” they were Halak fans, are just Price haters instead??

    I started off – like everyone – freaking out over Price.

    last year I began to QUESTION Price when he gestured to the crowd in the middle of the game – like Roy did.

    thats inexcusable.

    then Halak took over as # 1 at the end of the season and throughout the playoffs.

    who were we supposed to cheer for when the Habs chose to play Halak.

    naturally, I began to freak out about Halak’s play in game 5 vs Washington.

    does that make me a Price hater??

    if the Habs would have played Price, and he would have led us to the ECF, I would have cheered just as loudly

    for Price as I did for Halak. I have no doubt about that whatsoever.

    I survived the Roy trade to Colorado in ’95, and cheered my heart out for Thibeaut, and he was very average.

    there is no HATE for Price – at least not in me – and I was a Halak fan

  155. TomNickle says:

    Exactly Ed. Not in you.

    You must understand that you’re in the overwhelming minority when it comes to people who objectively view both goalies(for the most part).

    Your desire for Halak to be the goalie didn’t include calling Price a monkey or saying that he has alcohol or mental illness issues.

    99% of the posts that lobby for Halak to be the goalie reference Carey Price’s alleged off ice issues, Halak’s heart of gold or Price’s won/loss record.

    I’ve rarely, if ever, seen a post that argues that Halak is the best option for the team going forward based on anything related to skill, ability or team first needs.

  156. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    What’s up with all the people here man? Trade Price, sign Niemi, what the heck? That same Niemi was pathetic throughout the playoffs. Heck, you could’ve put Toskala in nets for Chicago last season and they still would’ve won the cup! Niemi is no Fleury from 2009 or Osgood from 2008, he’s very similar to Leighton! They had exceptional d-men like Seabrook, Keith, Pronger, Timonen playing in front of them! Do we have a d-man of that caliber? Do we have depth like those two teams? NO! Then why whine and bi*ch constantly about the goaltenders! If we had d-men of those caliber, then today Halak would have had a Cup ring and Habs would have pursued their 25th cup. But, guess what, we DON’T have d-men of that caliber. And yet, all you guys can do is bit*h and whine about Carey Price, like if somehow if he was replaced by Biron or Niemi our team would immediately become a Cup contender. Sheesh.

  157. RGM says:

    Or better yet: all three of them! LOL

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  158. ed lopaz says:

    ok – fine.

    I remember watching Price at his 1st development camp for the Habs at Martin Lapointe arena in Lachine.

    He was 18 still.

    The habs had just drafted him maybe 4 or 6 weeks earlier.

    He was outstanding even in the practice drills; outstanding!

    I had seen Dryden and Roy in their primes.

    Price was like a combination of both those guys.

    He had Dryden’s size and Roy’s quickness and athleticism.

    This is why I’m so negative on management – one of the reasons why – the Price “file” has been totally screwed up.

     

     

     

  159. The Cat says:

    It wasnt easy for Niemi and Osgood, the teams they played for didnt give up many shots on goal, thats tough for a goalie you know.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  160. TomNickle says:

    Yet he still has that skill and talent.

    Rollie Melanson screwed him up bigtime.  I’m not about to get into how much of a bad person he is because he did a great job with Halak and many others.  But he tried to make a tremendously successful goalie into something he’s not, and that hurt him.  If you want to blame that on Gainey, Gauthier, Boivin, Gilette or whoever, that’s your rite as a fan.  Sure one of those people could’ve stepped in and said don’t do it, but at the end of the day they were paying him to be the goaltending coach, and trusted him, the move didn’t work out.

    Every front office makes their share of mistakes and none are without judgment.  But where fans cross the line is making stuff up about alcohol addictions, mental illness, calling a player on the team, who happens to be human, the name of a primate.  

    It’s beyond ridiculous Ed.  I think you would agree that if Price had kept the job, played well in the playoffs and then was traded in favour of Halak, I wouldn’t be sitting here today saying that Halak is a heroin addict who suffers from depression and looks like a baboon.

     

  161. K-hab25 says:

    Exactly!! On top of that how many Halak fans, when asked, say they don’t like Price. Saying he’s cocky, funny I always see a shy quiet kid from the sticks. You wanna see cocky, watch a football or basketball game, Price is not cocky. They say he’s the annointed one. This is his fault how? They say he’s immature, like the “unforgivable” Roy gesture or shooting the puck at the feet of the Caps players after a goal. Roy is my favorite player of all time. A major reason why, was the fire he played with. At times he came across as an immature baby, but the fire is what made him the best. He hated to lose and wasn’t afraid to give as good as he got. Whether it was opposing teams or the fans. I’m not saying Price is Roy, he’s definitely not, but like Roy he has alot of people that don’t like him because of that firey edge they both have. LIike I’ve said and will continue to say, maybe 30% of Halak fans, really are big Halak fans. The other 70% are just fans of “the other goalie”, or the one without Price on the back of his jersey.

  162. The Cat says:

    Or another way to look at it is many became Halak fans because of Halaks inspirational play and his personal story. Whereas I got to wonder what Price has done to even have any ‘rabid’ fans? Dont get me wrong I dont hate him, but you know wheres the beef?

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  163. ed lopaz says:

    if Price had kept the job, played well in the playoffs and then was traded,

    you would be pissed as hell at management!!

    that’s what people are “hating”  – at least the one’s I know.

    no one I know blames Price.

    and, also, management was watching Price’s file as closely as any on the team.

    for them NOT TO STEP IN and stop whatever Melancon was doing is, in and of itself, reason for dismissal.

    Melancon might have been the goalie coach, but if the guy who manages the team can not see that an asset 

    as valuable as this is being ruined, why have that guy continue as your manager??

    And then after the all star break, why didn’t Gauthier step in and tell Martin to play Price.

    The file was blown right then and there.

  164. TomNickle says:

    The fact remains that had the shoe been on the other foot I wouldn’t be sitting here today referring to Halak in a demeaning fashion.

    I would be upset, I would be angry with Habs management, I would be questioning the future direction of the team. But I wouldn’t take that frustration out on the goalie who was kept.

    And that’s what most who disapprove of the trade are doing.

    I said it with 5 games left in the regular season, that it would have to be a choice between Halak and Plekanec. Everybody called me crazy saying that Halak would sign a deal around $2 million and Plekanec around $4 million. And look where we are today.

    A player was traded who didn’t want to be here. Whether or not it had to do with management, ownership or teammates. His inconsistency and lack of desire to be a part of this team going forward made him far from untouchable. But that’s just my opinion.

  165. ed lopaz says:

    I don’t think it had anything to do with Halak’s attitude, which I was told by his past goalie coach was outstanding.

    I was also told that he was extremely well liked by his teammates.

    of course, it could all be total BS and I would not be able to confirm any of it.

    no, to me, this was a message to Jacques Martin – straight from Gauthier to Martin.

    It was, hey buddy, guess what, next year you WILL play Price, because Halak will no longer be an option.

    And that’s what management decided – Gauthier and Gainey – to eliminate Halak from the discussion.

    Martin was given the final say over his bench last season – as any coach should.

    But if Halak is not on that bench the controversy is over.

    Now Martin gets to choose between Price or Auld – so there is no choice.

    that was a management decision to override a coach’s decision last playoffs.

    Gauthier and Gainey have always been sure of Price’s ability, but Martin’s first season as the coach did NOT

    confirm that – clearly.

    Now the decision had to be taken out of Martin’s hands – by way of the trade.

  166. K-hab25 says:

    Not talking about you Ed, I know you’re Halak fan for sure. I was more talking about xtra, manapart, adam 76, g-man, demigod, tony 242, lenny, mikey, clay, doug, demigod, smart dog, cat, bugs, ect. All of them have stated they don’t like Price or he rubs them the wrong way. I have no problem with that, I hated Kovalev, but it also means there view of his play is tainted, like mine was of Kovy. Every game Kovy played, he would get on my nerves, even when others were saying how good he was playing. Well that’s the same thing those guys do with Price. Every goal against, is a weak one, every gesture, is the wrong one, every off ice rumor, is a true one, the kid can’t win with them. It gets frustrating coming to a Habs fan site and reading nothing but hatred towards one of our own. I hated Kovalev, but I rarely posted anything bad about the guy, he was a Hab and I don’t treat Habs that wag-m

  167. Mark C says:

    Martin did play Price after the Olympic break, don’t know why you keep bring this up. Price got 3 of the first 4 post-Olympic starts. Price then gave up 3 goals on 11 shots against the Duck, Halak come on and Montreal won that game in OT with Halak making all 21 saves. Halak and Montreal then go on a 5 game winning streak. Price get two more starts before the playoffs, both loses, however Price did play well in those games. Both goalies put up great number after the Olympics, just Montreal seemed to win more with Halak in goal 9-3-3 versus 1-2-1 for Price. Isn’t it Martin’s job to win games?   

  168. The Cat says:

    Very well put and I agree 100%.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  169. K-hab25 says:

    We’ve had this dicussion during the season. You’re touched by Halaks personal story and Price just rubs you the wrong way. Well I’m not to touched by the personal struggle of playing a game for a living. I am however interested in seeing whether or not a guy with immense talent blossoms into an elite goaltender or an average one. There is his rabid fanbase in a nutshell. Price has earned everything just like Halak, his story just isn’t as Disney as Halaks is.

  170. G-Man says:

    A Stanley Cup winning goalie is garbage. Your perspective and opinion has just fallen off the deep end. Wow! It’s one thing to be a fan of Price; it’s quite another to be insane about it.

  171. Mark C says:

    Let me get this straight, PG and BG are such conies with Martin, that they based their AHL head coaching hiring on protecting and insulating him. Yet, they traded Martin’s goalie binky away to make sure Martin plays Price.

    Sounds more like the 9th circle of hell to me.   

  172. K-hab25 says:

    I think Eds been hanging around with demigod, it’s all a conspiracy to keep Martin and Price here forever. (evil laugh) :-)

  173. K-hab25 says:

    Coming from the guy insane with hatred for Price. How did your great Huet not beat this chump Niemi out. I guess like Halak, you just overrated how good he was to. You can have your cup winners, Niemi, Fluery, Osgood, Giguerre and Ward. I’ll take Price, Lundquist, Luongo, Miller and Rask, guys that haven’t won a cup, but are better than that group that have. Winning is a team accomplishment, hopefully one day you’ll understand that.

  174. ed lopaz says:

    yes, very funny. maybe demigod and i are actually the same people??? :-)

     

  175. Bill H says:

    “What’s up with all the people here man? Trade Price, sign Niemi, what
    the heck? …Do we have depth like those two teams? NO! Then why whine
    and bi*ch constantly about the goaltenders!”

    In the 2 years I’ve been here on HIO, the best answer I can come up with to that question is that it is in our DNA.  The ones that don’t whine and complain are genetic mutants.

  176. Mark C says:

    Ed knows his hockey, but he hates Montreal’s management. I’m not even in love with them, but someone needs to be pulling on the other end of the rope. All team’s management make mistakes all the time, its part of life and sports. Debating these mistakes can be fun, but some people take it too far, by blaming management for everything even with completely imperfect information. For example, all the blame given them because Moore signed in Tampa for cheap. Do any of us even know if Moore wanted to play in Montreal? No, yet it fine and good for people to blame the management for not signing him.

  177. K-hab25 says:

    Sweet, you like Norwegian death metal too. :-) I hope you realise I was just messing with you Ed. I respect your opinion , you know your stuff.

  178. K-hab25 says:

    In the words of the immortal xtra, ditto!!

  179. Habsforlife 1959 says:

    Carey Price will be the man this season or not? That’s the million dollars question here? Like it or lump it. The bottom line is Halak is now gone and what choice is left? Get over it and believe that Carey Price will be a big part of this team. Its a team game and goaltending is one player on a team. No matter who it is, If its Carey Price, Alex Auld or another goalie who will play nets this coming season. Yes it starts from the goalie out and the rest comes from players that the coaching staff instructed them to stick to the teams game plan.

     

    Go Habs Go!!! Believe!!! Believe!!! Carey!!! Carey!!! Carey!!! Ole!!! Ole!!! Ole!!!

    The majority of Carey Price’s losses from last season is when Carey Price was named one of the three stars. That alone speaks volumes in how the team played in front of him. Halak gave the Habs a wonderful playoff run and ran out of gas against the Flyers in the ECF. Not bad at all!!!

  180. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    I am sorry bud, I shouldn’t have wrote..well typed that. Even I whine from time to time but I got really fed up with whole Price dilemma. Sorry all.

  181. petrov14 says:

    I hope he calls Theodore to ask if its okay to wear #60 lol

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  182. ed lopaz says:

    it was reported that Moore wanted to come back to the habs – everyone assumed it was a money issue.

  183. ed lopaz says:

    yes I know you were kidding – its not a problem.

    if you keep complimenting me I might agree with a few of your posts. :-)

  184. habsnyc says:

    being named a game star when you lose, only speaks to the culturalization of losing wihich habs fans who did not witness the 70’s now seem to cherish.

  185. kempie says:

    I bet he’d get along real well with Lapierre. No doubt Lappy has forgotten about Ray helicoptering his goal stick into his face. Emery is a dbag and a sorry excuse for a goaltender.

  186. G-Man says:

    Take all the guys who haven’t won, like Luongo. Behind a great team, too. Only Miller stands out because the rest fold under pressure.

  187. kempie says:

    I find her somber and depressing. Nice voice though.

  188. nathan947 says:

    i would love to read more from you on this

  189. petefleet says:
    39 Cristobal Huet     48   46  2731 2.50  26  14  4  4  1083  114  .895  0  0  4

    26 wins (same as Niemi)

    14 losses

    4 OT losses (same as Niemi)

    4 shutouts

    .895 save % (a little low)

    Not sure what all the panic is about.  If Price had #’s like that last year, the Habs would have finished first in the east!!!

    Go Habs Go

  190. monizal840 says:

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  191. andrewberkshire says:

    Can’t stand the Beatles?!?! I don’t think we can be civil anymore!

  192. ZepFan2 says:

    You can’t stand The Beatles!

    You poor soulless bastard. 😉

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  193. andrewberkshire says:

    I’ve really fallen out of touch with modern music since high school. I don’t listen to the radio or keep track of new artists, so everything I listen to is either old, recommended or new albums from bands I’ve loved since I was younger.

  194. ooder says:

    you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth

    i acutally find some pretty good music from the scores of certain movies

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  195. andrewberkshire says:

    Haha! That’s what I do too! Soundtracks are basically my main way of seeing new music, and I have to say as I’ve gotten older I’ve started to love full orchestral soundtracks.

  196. andrewberkshire says:

    I didn’t go but a few of my friends did, they said it was awesome. I would have loved to see Arcade Fire.

  197. Jordio-oh says:

    I went. And Arcade Fire absolutely killed it.

    Other notables: Black Keys, Morning Benders, Japandroids, Pavement, Owen Pallet, Bahamas, and Snoop Dogg (yes, thats right)

  198. likehoy says:

    arcade fire was mind numbing! so much energy i really enjoyed it!

  199. andrewberkshire says:

    I figured it was a joke! How’s that for a job though? Good, or do you have to listen to too much crap music?

  200. Adam says:

    It’s a pretty damn good job, at least for the moment – my long term ambition is to be a “real” reporter.

    You get to hear a lot of stuff, but you kind of have to turn off the “fan” part of your brain and try everything objectively. I’ve given positive reviews to stuff I would normally hate because it’s good for what it is. Like Lady Gaga – I’m not big on dance pop, but as far as that stuff goes, I think she’s terrific.

    The big upside is you get to meet a lot of interesting people. I’m on a high right now: this morning I interviewed Steven Adler from Guns’N Roses, which is kind of like getting to ask Jesus Christ a few questions for a rock’n roll fan.


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