Hawks’ Crawford became a goalie because of Patrick Roy

Chicago Blackhawks goalie Corey Crawford grew up in Chateauguay, on the south shore of Montreal, as a huge Canadiens fan, idolizing Patrick Roy.

In fact, Roy is the reason he became a goalie.

“Patrick Roy is pretty much the reason why I wanted to be a goalie,” Crawford, who was 8 when St. Patrick led the Canadiens to their last Stanley Cup in 1993, told The Gazette a couple of years ago. “He was the man back in the day and I wanted to be like him.”

Crawford’s mother, Sylvia, told the Chicago Sun-Times: “I remember him watching Patrick Roy. We had this tape of the playoffs, and he’d watch it over, over and over again. I knew he had a fascination. He’d watch it two, three times in a row.”

Crawford’s father, Trevor, wasn’t thrilled when his son decided to become a goalie around his ninth birthday.

“There is so much pressure on them,” the father told the Sun-Times. “They seem to be a scapegoat when things don’t go well. I wasn’t too keen on it at first, and the other reason being is he was such a good forward. .  .  . But (playing goalie is) something he wanted to do.”

Crawford played high school hockey for Howard S. Billings in Chateauguay and played junior with the QMJHL’s Moncton Wildcats. The Blackhawks selected him in the second round (52nd overall) at the 2003 NHL entry draft.

The 28-year-old, who is in the second year of a three-year, $8-million contract, made 29 saves as the Blackhawks beat the Los Angeles Kings 4-2 Sunday night to take a 2-0 lead in the best-of-seven Western Conference final. Crawford made 21 saves Saturday in a 2-1 victory over the Kings in Game 1.

(Photo by Gregory Shamus/Getty Images)

Blackhawks beat Kings 4-2 to take 2-0 series lead, NHL.com

Angry birds crash in Bruins-Penguins opener, by Bruce Arthur of Postmedia News

NHL fumbles puck with serial offender Cooke, by Jack Todd


  1. ed says:

    Just a quick reply to UCE below about the great Ray Bourque.

    Bourque, having turned 40 in December of that Stanley Cup season, put up 59 points in 80 games.

    I didn`t see him riding anyone`s coattails that season.

    He was a major contributor throughout, and exactly the piece on the back end that Colorado needed to win the Cup.

    He also played the game “the right way“; tough when he had to be, but almost always clean and respectful of the game and the players.

    I felt good for Bourque when the Avs won.

    A class act all the way.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      One of two former Bruins I respect. Bobby Orr of course is the other. I kind of liked Phil Esposito but I’m going to join everyone else in forgetting about him.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • ebk says:

        agree on Orr,Cam Neely was always a favorite of mine, despite playing with the Bruins. He(Neely) was stationed in Moose Jaw for awhile and a friend of mine remembers playing against him.

    • ebk says:

      Nice post, It always made me chuckle that Bourque had to leave Boston to get a Stanley Cup ring, but he earned it and deserved it. Same as McDonald.

  2. Maritime Ron says:

    @ Un Canadien errant

    Why the rant against Ray Bourque?

    You write, “So he rode Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg and Patrick Roy’s coattails to a win, that’s kind of empty. He never could get his team past ours. He never won with his team.”
    Well, he never played in a 6 team NHL where simple odds made it easier, and while 1 man doesn’t make a Cup winner, 1 man can make a difference.
    Some greats never won a Cup with ‘Their” team:
    Marcel Dion-Daryl Sittler-Pat Lafontaine-Brad Park-Jean Ratelle-Gilbert Perreault……

    As for ‘riding the coat tails of others’, Bourque had 4 goals, 6 assists, +12 and played an average of 28:32 in those Stanley Cup winning playoffs.
    That’s hardly riding coat tails….that is more like being an integral part and major contributor of a Cup winning team
    You go on to say, “What I do dislike was how everyone fawned on him and congratulated each other how great it was to finally see him get “his Cup”, or as American talking heads will often say, “his ring” (who cares about rings? This isn’t football or basketball, nobody cares about jewelry…..
    Bourque was a great competitor and 1 of the 5 best to ever play D in the NHL.
    Bourque has won the Norris 5 times surpassed only by Bobby Orr with 8, and Doug Harvey and Nicklas Lidstrom with 7.
    There was a reason they slapped an “A” on his sweater, and why once Sakic was presented with the Cup, passed it first to Bourque -even before Patrick Roy.
    He was also a good dressing room guy and an overall good guy.

    As for ” who cares about rings?” statement, the answer is somewhere close to 30 General managers.
    Wearing the ‘ring’ signifies that a player was part of something special – understanding what it takes to win and the understanding of sacrifice, work, and mental toughness to get to the end of the grind.
    That is why these players are almost always coveted, and if acquired, hopefully to both lead by example and pass on vital experiences to those that have never lived that.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Very nice post. well articulated. There are many great NHL players who have never won the cup because the teams they were on did not have a strong supporting cast. Sometimes they got close and a bad call by a ref of funny bounce ended their dreams.

      Yes, the ring is what they want, I would not want a player on my team that was not looking for a ring. It ony signifies that they have won the ultimate prize, Lord Stanley’s Cup! Isn’t that why they go through the season and work so hard and sacrifice their bodies?

      I have more respect for players that go to teams where they think that they can win than for the players that just chase the biggest contract.

      Bourque was class all the way. If you remember, he took a ton of criticism for taking a contract that the NHLPA thought was way below market and would hurt them making more money. Adam Oates was one of the worst. How stupid. He was happy, new it was way more money than he and his family would ever need, and was loyal to the team. The owner did not put together a team that could win so he finally left to win what he wanted so much.

      Nothing wrong with that after what he did for the Bruins.In the normal world. people change companies to better themselves all the time, what is the difference?


    • Un Canadien errant says:

      All right, let’s call it a rant, it’s something that sticks in my craw, how everyone convinced themselves that it was so great to see him ‘finally win his Cup’. In the wrong jersey. After joining a stacked team of superstars.

      It’s like if I celebrated my first ever birdie, after you’d given me the 6 foot putt that remained. And everyone patted me on the back. It wouldn’t have been earned.

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    I think we saw yesterday what happens in the NHL when a strong defensive team gives up too many scoring chances. Despite Quick being the “best” goalie presently in the playoffs, he gave up goals. Quick will probably bounce back with a better game, but if Chicago continues to out skate and out chance the Kings, it may not matter how Quick plays.

    The Kings need to get back to not giving up those excellent scoring chances in order to win. Regardless of who they have in net.

  4. Habfan17 says:

    Yesterday I posted two trade scanarios involving Price. First let me say, I don’t believe Price should be traded. Second, they were tongue in cheek suggestions to generate some trade talk.

    I like where the Habs are picking since it is supposed to be a pretty deep draft and I don’t want them to trade away any of the picks they have. The only thing I would be okay with is if they traded their first round pick and either DD or Diaz to move up a few spots if they feel they won’t get “their” guy if they wait.

    I would hate it if they traded any of the “core” players or high end prospects like Beaulieu, Dietz, Kristo, Bozon, Nygren, Colbert. or Tinordi.
    I would even hang onto Pateryn, Bournival, and Ellis.

    What I would be okay with is trading Gorges,Diaz, DD, and Weber. Not saying all of them, unless it was for pieces that fit long term or picks. Then they would have to pick up a free agent or two to fill in for one or two seasons.


  5. SlovakHab says:

    Besides PK Subban, there is another Hab that has a brother which is available in the draft: Lars Eller.

    His younger brother Mads (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=93351) should be available in the later rounds.

    I’d take Jordan Subban if available in the 3rd round that we got for Erik Cole (just look how effective Krug is for Boston, they are similar size) and gladly would take Mads in 6/7 round too 🙂

    • Habfan17 says:

      I don’t think I would take Jordan, but I might take a chance on the younger Eller. The Habs already have Mac Bennett and Nygren, they don’t need another offensive dman, especially lacking size. Yes, Krug is doing okay now, but he is just starting out and is insulated by Chara and Hamilton, and other large dmen.


      • SlovakHab says:

        That’s true. However Jordan Subban is apparently way more talented than Mac Bennett and Nygren. I don’t expect any of the 2 make any impact on NHL level to be honest with you, however Jordan Subban is a pretty likely NHLer.

        Good observation on size insulation though. Many people don’t realize that having Chara on ice 25-30 minutes per game makes them huge. It’s not the average size that counts, it’s the icetime of your big, strong players that counts.

  6. Un Canadien errant says:

    I have all kinds of respect for Raymond Bourque, grudgingly admired his play when he was a Bruin. I wish we’d have drafted high enough the year he came out to pick him out of Sorel, but not a chance, so anyway, he was the enemy, but I didn’t hate him.

    What I do dislike was how everyone fawned on him and congratulated each other how great it was to finally see him get “his Cup”, or as American talking heads will often say, “his ring” (who cares about rings? This isn’t football or basketball, nobody cares about jewelry, this is about winning the Stanley Cup, doing a lap around the Forum ice with it held above your head). What a crock that was. So he rode Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg and Patrick Roy’s coattails to a win, that’s kind of empty. He never could get his team past ours. He never won with his team.

    It’s like if he was a mountaineer, and tried 20 times to climb McKinley, but every time an injury, weather, altitude sickness, weather, avalanche danger, weather, storms, or weather caused him to turn back short of the summit. At the end of his career, he says to heck with it, and gets heli-dropped on top for a cigar and a few pictures. Big whoop.

    The only other ‘feelgood’ Stanley Cup that is more undeserved and harder to swallow is Lanny McDonald’s.



  7. habs001 says:

    Looking at Prices career regular season stats they are not bad… they are comparable to most other goalies who have played as many games as he has….His playoff stats are poor compared to the same goalies even if these goalies played for poor teams…

    • Sportfan says:

      He hit a bump in the road, with the playoffs hopefully he’ll get a nice long run in a Habs jersey!

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    • The Jackal says:

      That bum, trade him!

      But really, how is the team’s record in the post-season? Even without Price, we still did not win, did we?
      And what about those goalies with equal or better records but who have played for worse teams??? Those teams have not won either, have they?
      Those “stats” don’t really mean much if the teams haven’t had success.

      Price had 2 bad showings these playoffs, and had a bad playoff against Philly and the Bruins. So did the team. What matters is that a team succeeds. How one player does is not important in the grand scheme of things if their teammates are not doing much better either.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • Habfan17 says:

        How do you win when you don’t score? One thing the Habs need to practice is hitting the net with shots. Way too many of their shots go wide.


  8. Todays - Topic says:

    Chicago is the better overall team and they will win series

    Pittsburgh and Boston. Best Goalie wins series.

  9. JF says:

    Tonight the Kings looked like a shadow of the team that won the Cup last year. Quick was beaten by exactly the type of shots that were beating Price late in the season; their powerplay is largely ineffective; and their stars (Kopitar, Brown, Doughty) are not producing.

  10. Strummer says:

    Just saw Scotty Bowman take a (sort of) bow.

    Bowman successful in Detroit then moves to Chicago where they now have great success.

    Begs the question- was Bowman responsible for Detroit’s success or was the system already in place, a system Bowman then took to Chicago with him?
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • otter649 says:

      Bowman is some sort of an advisor as Chicago’s system was in the process of being developed & implemented before he arrived. Bowman probably spends more time in Florida than Chicago during the regular season & becomes a regular fixture with The Hawks during the playoffs…..

      – Stanley come home…..

  11. SUMO says:

    I am starting to wonder if the 2013 Draft will not be unlike the 2007 draft where outside of the top-3 picks there was not alot of consensus who would go where. As I recall Timmons did a pretty good job of finding McDonagh, Pacioretty, Subban and Weber out of that haul.

    Lets hope for a similar fate.

  12. Sportfan says:


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    • The Jackal says:

      Lol…. the funny bit is that some were saying that Chicago was not tough enough for LA. Looks like the skilled team is having more success thus far.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • HardHabits says:

        I am surprised. Chicago is the 29th shortest team by average height according to this chart.

        However, when you look at these comparable stats for the 5 TOI leaders:

        J.Toews 20:26 6′ 2″
        Patrick Kane 19:41 5′ 11″
        Marian Hossa 18:58 6′ 1″
        Patrick Sharp 17:43 6′ 1″
        Brandon Saad 15:57 6′ 1″

        T. Plekanec 20:53 5′ 11″
        Max Pacioretty 17:16 6′ 2″
        D. Desharnais 17:13 5′ 7″
        Brian Gionta 17:09 5′ 7″
        Rene Bourque 16:08 6′ 2″

        I see a problem.

        • The Jackal says:

          Oh yeah, the Habs do need to balance out and add size/grit, I’m just saying it’s not all about size or how you stack up versus other teams. You just need to have enough players that can create room and clear the crease. After that, so long as your roster is balanced, you can build for skill and speed. The Habs are not quite balanced, as we know, but I don’t think we need to get as big as some suggest.

          Even the B’s success is not because they are necessarily big – they have a lot of skill on that roster and it is able to thrive because there are players out there who make room for Marchand and Krejci and Krug now.

          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  13. Sportfan says:

    Kings regretting the Regher signing? lol

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  14. YOWHab says:

    So Stefan Matteau is a good prospect *Ducks for cover*

    no but seriously, the kid has upside, toughness, and a freakishly nasty streak. we had a guy like that once, his first name was Claude.

    It’s safe to say that after the debacle of the past month at Blainville has dropped his value through the floor. There are obvious issues at hand here, but with the right mentoring and coaching, I think someone, somewhere can make something of this guy.

    Is MB up for a reclamation project???

  15. saskhabfan says:

    Hardhabits claimed quick is a top of the crease, stand up goalie.Anybody who even started watching hockey for the first time tonight can see that he isn’t.

    • HardHabits says:

      I said he was as stand up as they come. Which apparently is not that stand up at all.

      Nice to see that you’ve climbed out of your hole to take another pot shot at me. I could feel the love from the other side of the Internet.

  16. jols101 says:

    @Matty, do you feel the same way about Raymond Bourque as you do towards Iggy ?

    My dad and I have argued over this many times. I don’t have a problem with Bourque or Iggy chasing their dream. They both gave their heart and soul to Boston and Calgary, respectively. I would be as happy watching Iggy hoist the cup as I was when Bourque did it with the Avs. It isn’t their fault the teams they played on had GMs and owners who could not or would not build a winner.

  17. ont fan says:

    Play the perimeter and you lose. L.A needs to get bigger and go to the net.

  18. JayK-47 says:

    Lotta ‘chatter’ on the interwebs. Colorado and Florida fans (some Oilers talking too) wondering if they’ll win the Pleks, DD, Diaz, Gorges, Weber sweepstakes from Montreal. They’re all thinking it’s gonna cost their 1st rounder, a big d-man AND a prospect to shake The Package loose.

    Sure is exciting times ain’t it fellas?!

    • hansolo says:

      You’re kidding, right? Sorry if my sarcasm detection meter isn’t calibrated finely enough.

    • ont fan says:

      All the chatter is from Habs fans. Might as well throw in a couple of broken sticks with the odds and ends.

    • habstrinifan says:

      You kinda had me there for a minute or two. Not because I am necessarily stoooopid but I am weak-minded when it comes to HABS. Thought wow let’s get it done before they wake up.

    • Rad says:

      With Pleks in there, that is a good enough package to tempt somebody. Might have to “subtract” Desharnais from that group to make it happen, and add in our 1st Rounder, a 2nd, and one of our better prospects like Kristo or Ellis to the mix. Not Colorado though, they don’t need a Center. Maybe Florida … Bergevin knows Dale Tallon very well from their Chicago days. If memory serves, I think Tallon was the one who gave Bergevin his start in management.

      • JayK-47 says:

        I was make joke!

      • Habfan17 says:

        Why does everyone overvalue moving up and why deplete the team to get one player in the draft who MAY be a franchise player. If that is what teams are really demanding, then only a fool would give it to them, in my humble opinion.

        To me trading the Habs first round pick and Diaz or Gorges to get say the 17/18th overall should be plenty. Getting a player that can play 18 – 20 minutes now and a lower first round pick in a deep draft should be acceptable. Posters on this site said that if the Habs were to trade Pleks, they would get a first round pick based on what other players went for. Gorges at least a high second. So, if that is the case, why wouldn’t a team that is very young and needing some experience, trade their higher first overall for Pleks or Gorges and the Habs first round pick?

        Saying it would take the Habs first round, Subban and Beaulieu to move into the top three is absurd. Those who suggest Galchenyuk, Beaulieu and the Habs first are also overdoing it. If Galchenyuk had not missed the season before the draft, he would not be a Hab in most likelyhood. He would have gone first or second and the Habs might have the Nail.


  19. Sportfan says:

    WOW the Hawks are destroying the kings!

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    • Marc10 says:

      It’s all Quick’s fault… but I’m sure the ‘Quickbots’ will come to his defense shortly… 😉

      Great game so far. The Hawks are a thing of beauty to watch when they’re in full flight. Wow indeed!

      • hansolo says:

        Obviously, Quick is a sieve and must be traded. He’s got to do better, especially with that D in front of him, not to mention those huge forwards. Perhaps, from LA’s viewpoint, Montreal would trade Price for him, straight up?

      • Strummer says:

        If Quick had any integrity he would return his Cup ring and Conn Smythe trophy award.

        Edit – and have them awarded to Carey Price as compensation for Price having an inferior defense in front of him

        “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  20. ProHabs says:

    I am still scratching my head tonight over the non-call of interference on Marchand yesterday. My wife thinks I have lice.

  21. Mattyleg says:

    Hey all,
    Haven’t posted on here in a while.
    Work is nuts, and lack of Habs has kept me quiet.

    Just want to comment on one thing:

    I couldn’t care less who wins the Cup this year, even if it’s Boston.
    I know, everyone is all “ooh! What?? How could you?! Etc.” (yes, some people said ‘etc.’)

    I don’t care about any team unless we are playing them. Once they get past us, they can play the prettiest hockey there ever was, or use every last dirty trick in the book, and I couldn’t care less.

    That being said, I’d love to see Boston knock out the Penguins and then lose to a Western team.


    Because Boston didn’t tank for their team. They sucked for a season and got a pick, but they fleeced Toronto and Ottawa with some clever dealing and brought their players up right, as ape-like as they may be.

    Pittsburgh got a ton of top talent by almost mis-managing their team into oblivion. Then we see the likes of Iginla flocking to their doors because “Weeeelll (hip creaking) this could be me only chance at a cup…. care for a Werther’s?” Of course players like him are going to choose to play alongside Crosby and Malkin. Mind you, my esteem for Iggy fell through the floor when I saw him chase that personal rainbow. I hope he gets the shaft for that one.

    I feel similarly about Chicago, but at least they had to deal with most of their team leaving after their last cup, but once again, they had a pile of suck-induced talent to build on.

    That leaves LA and the Booins.
    That’d be a good final, actually. Lunchpails and the smell of Rub A5-35.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • ProHabs says:


      However, I do have to agree somewhat. While the Habs were out looking to get midgets and soft players like Cammalli, Gomez, Gionta, Kaberle, Pyatt, etc. the Bruins were scouting and looking at getting some playoff type players like Boychuk, McQuiad, Horton. Campbell etc to go along with thier strong core. Without question, they have done a better job at getting the right type of players to help thier team.

    • hansolo says:

      I hear what you’re saying but as long as the NHL rewards incompetence with high draft picks, teams will do what they must.

      Do teams deliberately set out to lose to get hgh draft picks? I suspect not, but the level of motivation WILL inevitably vary depending on whether players think the team has a chance in the post season.

      Let’s face it, last year’s Habs were not a 15th place team — but they mailed it in after JM was fired, Randypuck instituted, and Cammalleri traded — just to mention a few incidents. So did WE tank? Probably, because the players had had enough, although I doubt they collectively got together and said “Ok, guys, let’s lose our games from now on so we can draft Galchenyuk.”

      So we’re hardly in the position to point fingers.

      I want the Hawks to win because I still want to believe that skill has place in today’s game. I can’t believe that big, lumbering teams, or teams that cheat by playing rough and intimidating their opponents, banking on not being called on their behavior because it’s the playoffs, have an automatic edge over skilled teams that haven’t stooped to cheating or playing boring, grinding hockey.

  22. habstrinifan says:

    I think I read a post here that the HAWKS were the shortest team left. For some reason they are looking bigger than the Kings.

  23. Strummer says:

    ” Hawks’ Crawford became a goalie because of Patrick Roy’

    Let’s hope Marc Bergevin became a GM because of Peter Chiarelli

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  24. frontenac1 says:

    Quick sucks.

  25. sweetmad says:

    I said I was a fan of fighting I left out the not,it is the only bad thing aboyut hockey

  26. sweetmad says:

    I am of a fan of fighting as you all know here are some thoughts of one of the reasons.

    Double standards

    I have always believed we teach by example
    Of double standards here is a sample
    I look around me and I see
    People dying unnecessarly,
    We tell our kids it isn’t right
    To bully people and start a fight.
    Of depression this can be cause
    This should be boo’ed not creat applause
    Yet every time I watch a game
    This is what happens, it’s just the same
    But this isn’t kids this is adults,
    Canwe blame our kids for their faults
    If on the ice they see people pushed around
    Yet they can’t do it,this advice isn’t sound.
    We love our game of that there is no doubt,
    Yet the fans think it’s great to cheer for a lout,
    Bullying should never assist in a win
    There are people dying because of this sin.
    Byllying is alright on the ice,
    But in the playground it isn’t nice.
    When I see kids take their own life
    In a world full of war and strife,
    Because of bullying and no one hears their pleas,
    Cheating is cheating,there are no degrees
    Of right or wrong,when it should be clear,
    Bullying creates nothing but hurt and fear.
    Entertainment this is nothing like,
    Should we arm our players with gun or pike.
    Fighting is fighting,fighting is war,
    There is no difference of that you can be sure,
    There is no difference they are both the same,
    What does this say about our game.
    When a child hears his Dad cheer for a fight,
    But is told he can’t do it,this isn’t right.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I commend you for your poem and the sentiments you express. But I read your post just after visiting the link provided by Habfab. Accepting the challenges of an adversarial world seems a stronger responsibility.

      • sweetmad says:

        Yes I totally agree with you,I watched the link after I wrote the poem,but that doesn’t take away from the fact,that we are giving our children double standards,teaching kids that there is a better way,will make them stronger.Violence is never the answear,it just creates more,ask the kids from Somalia and a dozen other different African countries,who were made to kill,and listen to what they have to say.
        Telling our kids it’s alright in certain circumstances to bully and fight, is not right.To make this world a better place we have to teach our kids tolerence and respect.
        GO HABS GO

  27. Timo says:

    Did Carey Price become a goalie because of Andre Racicot?

  28. Mike D says:

    @ Kempie

    I would take offense to that…..if I was a better drummer. 😀

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

  29. HabFab says:

    Absolutely nothing to do with hockey but an emotional and powerful message from a man we have recently seen wearing a Habs cap;

    • habstrinifan says:

      I once heard an old war veteran describe a hero as follows, “We shared no bonhomie with this man; no companionable touch of the shoulder. Just a firm handshake and a guarantee of honour”.

      Could have been describing this man.

  30. frontenac1 says:

    Go Hawks!!

  31. Habs4LifeInTO says:

    Ok I’ll bite on the the draft talk. Most exciting time of the year for me. Bergevin talked about balance during his year end, state of the nation address. Last year we picked Collberg, Hudon and Bozon to go along with Kristo, Bournival and Gallagher already in the fold. To me we need to balance the skilled types with some size and / or grit. So in the interest of balance I am hoping we will get two or more of the following players:

    25th overall: Rychel, Morin, or Mantha. I’d like it to be Morin. In the second round I’d target McCarron and Diaby. In my dreams Fucale slips to the second round and we grab him too (mental toughness there I believe). Moutrey from Saginaw (I think) would be a nice addition maybe in round 3. I may be wrong but I’m getting a hankering for a little menace on my team…It seems to be the way the league is going. Hopefully this draft will add some grit to balance an already good stable of skill and speed on our Habs. And for the record I would have always chosen speed and skill over size and grit in the past. Even up until a few months ago I had my fingers crossed that we’d grab Petan in the second round somehow. I just don’t feel that way as much anymore. I also would like to have Stefan Fournier signed as a free agent please since we missed out on that guy from Yale (Laganiere)… I also wouldn’t say no to Erskine (trade) and Bickell (UFA and dreaming). Now that I’ve said that I feel dirty but somehow good too!

    24 cups and counting….

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I think since we have somewhat stocked our prospect cupboard fairly well, we should look for a homerun pick in the first. To me, if Mantha is still available you take him as he has a lot more upside than many of the guys expected to be around at 25 (and he addresses size too even though he may not play too gritty). I think Morin will be available in the second round.

      I’ve noticed for years we have drafted a lot of defense and potential top 6 guys, but don’t usually go looking for that solid bottom 6 player which is why we have so much trouble filling the third and fourth line when injuries happen. The only guy we picked last year whose career goal should the bottom 6 is Vail (and he has shown a lot more offense this season. So I think it would be good to try and find some players in this draft that can play physical, and play sound defensive hockey, and as a bonus have some scoring talent as well.

  32. HabFab says:

    On June 5th, 2013, the Montréal Canadiens will be evaluating more then 57 players who have been selected to participate to its 2013 Combine activity.

    I have also seen a figure of 35 players. Should be getting a list tomorrow.

  33. HabFab says:

    Top 100 draft picks from Hockey Prospectus;

    This ranking like that of Button generally tends to be not too close to what the actual order turns out to be.

    • HabFan in Edmonton says:

      They have Samuel Morin at #60, what are the chances he is availabe then ? Highly unlikely !!!

      • HabFab says:

        You have got to love the “experts” 🙂

      • Mark C says:

        In fairness, this list isn’t a mock and gives no consideration to where a player is likely to be picked. Just one persons opinion based on his viewings, communication with scouts, and personal thoughts on players value.

        • commandant says:

          If you read Pronman you also realize he is highly skewed to prospects who play a puck possession game instead of a defensive one…. and he also awards 0 points for intangibles, leadership, etc…

          Go Habs Go!
          Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

          • Mark C says:

            Good points, he also ranks goalies low and favors forwards over defenseman, at least at the top of the draft.

  34. twilighthours says:

    The biggest head-scratcher last night was the non-call for interference on Marchand on bergeron’s breakaway.

  35. Rad says:

    I know everyone has their ideas for who the Habs should be selecting at the June 30 Draft with their 6 picks in Rounds 1 – 3. Here are my selections, in order, of the players that may be there when it’s our turn to pick:

    Pick # 25, one of
    1. Samuel Morin
    2. Pavel Buchnevich
    3. Valentin Zykov
    4. Anthony Mantha

    Picks 34, 36, and 55, 3 of:
    1. Buchnevich (might still be available)
    2. Anthony Duclair
    3. Justin Bailey
    4. Bogdan Yakimov
    5. Nick Baptiste

    Picks 70 and 85, two of:
    1. Yakimov
    2. Baptiste
    3. Michael McCarron
    4. Jonathan Diaby
    5. Viktor Rydberg
    6. Anton Slepyshev

    Keep in mind it’s possible Bergevin will try to move into the top 15-20 to try and nab Morin, who IMO is probably not going to be available at 25. Possible trading partners could be Columbus, Winnipeg, Phoenix, and Calgary.

    • HabFab says:

      I would be happy with 6 of those players. Unfortunately it is so hard to determine where they will go in the draft. Seems that last year the top “experts” scored only 23 players out of their top 30 players… this was the top guys.

  36. Ian Cobb says:

    Crosby say’s today, “the refs allowed Boston to continually escalate the physical play, it is all about the ratings.”

    Crosby angry at referees after Game 1 brawls

  37. habstrinifan says:

    I am taking down the names of every single poster who is seeking refuge in Emelin’s injury for Price’s late season problems.

    Why? Well cause I am mean spirirted and will call them on it when I see the inevitable posts about how weak Emelin is defensively etc etc.

    Reminds me of the two week span where Diaz was Booby Orr or last year when Weber was like more sound on the PP than P.K could ever be.

    There are so many posts now where Emelin has taken on Pronger like status. Just like the two week stretch where Ryder was our Mike Bossy.

    Me? Well we missed Emelin. But when he comes back our defense would still only be marginally better… and Price will still have to prove his promise.

    • ed says:

      I think the point is not how great Emelin actually played, but rather, the fact that we lacked the depth at defence to replace his minutes, and the fact that all 3 of the pairings on defence were seemingly weaker when he left the lineup.

      I think, as well, Therrien made a crucial error by overplaying Markov throughout the season – 24 minutes a night – and that left Markov extremely tired and vulnerable the last 3 weeks and into the playoffs.

      Defensively, without Emelin, and with Markov playing tired and poorly, our defence was seriously exposed.

      In January, february and March, while we were beating everyone, our defence was excellent.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Well said Ed. No one (or at least not me) is trying to make Emelin into a Norris winner, but rather stating how little others of our defenders bring that to the ice.

      • habstrinifan says:

        We could go round and round on this discussion using the very statement you made. Let’s look at it. And remember the central question of this discussion is the comparative quality of Price.

        “Defensively, without Emelin, and with Markov playing tired and poorly, our defence was seriously exposed.
        In January, february and March, while we were beating everyone, our defence was excellent.”

        Are you saying then, that Price, a highly touted #1 draft pick, is to be evaluated with the same ordinariness of the run of the mill goaltender… that he is only as good as his defense.

        Puts a lie to that other hockey adage, that your best penalty killer should be your goalie.

        • Phil C says:

          A goalie is only as good as his defense. Isn’t that also an adage?

          Is it a coincidence that the best goalie of our generation, Brodeur, also played in front of the most stifling defense in NHL history? Over his entire career, he only faced 25 shots per game on average.

          In the 8 games before Emelin’s injury, Price’s SV% was .924%. In the 8 games after Emelin’s injury, .856%.

          I admit that this does not prove that the Emelin injury caused the demise of Price’s SV%, but there is very strong co-relation between Emelin’s injury and Price subsequently crapping the bed.

        • Phil C says:

          “I’d like to thank my teammates. Without them , I can’t win the Vezina Trophy. Goaltending is the most team dependant position that there is in hockey.” – Tim Thomas


  38. HabFanSince72 says:

    When are the Leafs going to stop helping the Bruins?

    This blows.

  39. Bripro says:

    Hi everyone. I haven’t been posting much but have read some repeat and some refreshing comments.
    Today’s thread about Corey Crawford makes me smile. He’s a very humble and quiet kid from our home town who played with and became good friends with both of my nephews.
    He follows in the footsteps of others who’ve made a name for themselves in hockey, like Kim St Pierre, Bobby Dollas, Glen Currie (who I played against in Junior tryouts and made me look really bad).
    These are all great people we locals are proud to support, and for that reason, I hope the Hawks take it again. Go Corey!

    • HabFab says:

      I figured you would be in like Flynn on this topic. Must be still detoxifying after your cruise 🙂

      • Bripro says:

        Withdrawals and detox Frank.
        The detox is easy. Do like Front and and use single malt medicine.
        The withdrawals are harder.
        It’s been years since I didn’t have to cook or clean dishes.
        How’re you doing?

  40. I wonder how CP feels or hears what people say to him when he decides to leave his hotel room? CP gets no protection on and off the ice. That’s probably why he said, Hobbit in a hole to MB.

    If CP was on another team he would blossum IMHO. MB will accommodate what CP wants in the coming weeks. Just have to wait and see where this goes?

    Maybe the majority would like to see CP traded. You all might get your wish if this would take place? CP for JH is what should take place and see how it would benefit CP by singing the blues.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Imagine Price in for Quick and it’s easy to imagine him thriving behind a proper D.

      I hope he stays and that the change that’s made is the proper augmentation of the Habs D.

  41. Hobie Hansen says:

    I think the refs, for once, made the right call on Cooke. I don’t think the league got it correct though. A normal player, being kicked out of the game is fine. Cooke, should have been suspended for at least two games because of his history.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      I agree.
      What’s your take on the Marchand (non) call? He has history, too.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Very close to being a major for boarding and a game misconduct. The Pens player didn’t crash too violently into the boards. If Neal was a foot closer and crashed heavily into the boards I’d like to see Marchand suspended.

        Not sure if Neal looked over his shoulder to make a pass or saw Marchand coming and embellished a little bit as well?

    • ebk says:

      no doubt Cooke deserved the major but so did Marchand. Marchand running interference for Bergeron was the most idiotic display of refereeing I’ve seen in a long time.

      It’s just sad how bad the refereeing is.

    • SmartDog says:

      I don’t see a suspension there. Cooke’s right – he was turning, and he didn’t plow through him, and the guy got up and didn’t seem any worse for it. I don’t think a history means he can’t hit a guy or make a small mistake like other players make. It didn’t seem reckless, just a typical hit in a VERY physical game, where the guy turned at the last second.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  42. mike3131 says:

    Price doesn’t require psychological help, or a new goalie coach, or a change of scene, or anything of that matter… he simply needs a better team in front of him. He’s a world class goaltender so he’ll be just fine. Leave him alone.

    • Habcouver says:

      Couldn’t agree more, mike.

      Waiting patiently for #25

    • Mark C says:

      I am amazed with how many people believe they understand Price’s mental state well enough to recommend professional help. Amazed.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Guilty as charged (if you’re referring to me).
        And I agree, it’s totally speculative.
        I also agree he’s world-class.
        And I completely agree that he needs a better team — specifically better D — in front of him (and I said so).
        Would you be less amazed if I remarked, simply, that to me he looked snake-bit in April/May?
        I said all goalies maintain their confidence on a knife-edge, and I’m just not sure that balancing act was going well for him at season’s end.
        But yes, pure speculation. (Also, I’m not advocating professional help for CP)

        • Mark C says:

          Don’t recall having an issue with anything you’ve written. My comment was direct towards the posters that were claiming Price is depressed. You seem to be focussing on his confidence which is much different than making claims about a person and depression.

    • naweed235 says:

      What Price really needs is to work on his technique when stopping pucks that are low. The majority of the goals he gives up are softies that go through his five hole… In fact, I believe his five hole has a gravitational force of its own

      Also, it bothers me so much that people go out of their way to defend a goalie that in 6 NHL seasons has won 1 playoff round (in front of a team that many experts at the time were calling Cup favorites) with a 9 W – 17 L record and a .905 SV%… Even worse, to call him a world class goalie…

      I’ve said it many times, Price is a victim of his draft position and the city that drafted him. He is simply not capable of raising his game when the pressure is on and games matter the most. He might have been a 3 times vezina winner if he was drafted by the Blue Jackets, but in MTL he can’t do it.
      People need to stop hoping that he will magically turn his career around and become a consistent goalie that will win you cups.

      “Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.”

  43. revengfullsnowman says:

    Price played almost veiza well untill the last portion of the season. Every player has slumps. Just ask ovechkin. And price as we have all seen has made some big bounce backs

  44. habstrinifan says:

    My little cousin’s hoemwork for the weekend. Use the word MAIN in a sentence. He asked for my help and I tried my best. Think he’ll gat an A?

    #1 The Main reason Price was drafted was because Gainey believed
    that he would win us the CUP.

    #2 Price is still our MAIN hope to win the Cup.

    #3 Price is the MAIN reason we wont win the CUP.

    #4 Price is our main untouchable.

  45. SmartDog says:

    The easy version – I give you answers!
    1. Is Price a headcase?
    A: YES
    2. Could he reasonably have a great bounce-back year next year?
    A: YES
    3. Does he need a change – a new coach or a shrink?
    A: YES
    4. Should he be traded?
    A: NO
    5. Is he going to have a great year next year?
    A: No-one knows.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • habstrinifan says:

      I say NO to some of your ‘yesses’ and YES to some of your ‘nos’

      • SmartDog says:

        You’re what I like to call ‘wrong’.

        🙂 What do you disagree with most?

        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • habstrinifan says:

          I dont even know myself. Honestly. Just typed cause I can.

          • SmartDog says:

            You have every right to do so!

            I’m not sure if people think he’s a head case or not. (Some people think he just isn’t that good.) To me, that’s exactly what’s going on. The way he used to let in goals late in the 3rd. The way he gets shelled every handful of games. He’s realllllyyy good. And then terrible.

            Headcases have a strong history in goal tending. Some of them are really successful (hello Dominic Hasek!). Some of them not so much (hi Ilya Bryzgalov). I think the Habs main task is to figure out what Price needs to build his confidence. And it’s NOT just saying “he’s great” over and over. They need to get him to focus on something new for awhile. Get him in a new rythm.

            Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Rad says:

      Yes, No, Yes, Yes, No.

  46. HabinBurlington says:

    Well gonna follow Frontenac’s lead and watch the golf at the pub. No saloons in Burlington unfortunately.

    CHeers everyone, enjoy your Sunday afternoon.

  47. habsfan0 says:

    Today’s weather in the GTA: rain,followed by sun,followed by rain,followed by sun.

    Reminds me of a certain goalie’s inconsistent play(and I’m not referring to Jaroslav Halak).

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Mike, it would be wonderful if he was just stirring the pot, but when you read his last 3-4 posts, it is impossible for me not to accept the fact that he actually believes Price is the only cause for the teams demise. The fact his hero has been relegated to third string for another team doesn’t help his mood any.

        • habsfan0 says:

          When was Rob Ford relegated to 3rd string?


        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          As long as we’re all (reasonably) respectful, all honestly held opinions are ok with me.

          (Btw, enjoyed your basketball analogy some days ago — working too hard to answer then, shouldn’t be answering now).

          On Price, I think he’s one of several players with mind issues. Surely all goalies’ confidence is constantly on a knife-edge, and I think he’s currently having problems with his. He also DESPERATELY needs much better D in front of him. AT LEAST we did a 180 on our game philosophy in this short, post-JM season, from stupid d-is-everything to attacking and playing in the offensive zone.

          Other guys with mind issues are way more serious and I don’t blame them in the least: post-concussion: Moen, Bourque, Pax. Guys read about percussion these days (thankfully) and actually think about the quality of their post-career lives. I can’t help but feel that this explains their new reluctance for physical play.

          • twilighthours says:

            I’d rather an disrespectfully shared opinion shared occasionally than a respectfully shared opinion, or an opinion shared with a lame attempt at humor, shared ad nauseum.

            I realize I might be alone on this.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            I’d rather have a bottle in front of me.

            (than a frontal lobotomy)

    • habstrinifan says:

      A metereological did at… You run the risk of creating an HIO storm.

  48. Habfan10912 says:

    I think I figured out why my reply to Burly wouldn’t post. I used the word b+a+n+n+e+d. Filters at work, I’m guessing.

  49. Habfan10912 says:

    @burly. My reply to you keeps getting erased.
    ” Cooke has used up all his muligans. He should have been kicked out of the game
    years ago.”

  50. Habfan10912 says:

    No supplemental discipline for Cooke. I wonder if the lack of a similar major penalty to Marchand went into the leagues thinking? Once again, officiating take centre stage at a NHL game.

  51. naweed235 says:

    I don’t understand how Aleksander Barkov is not in the conversation for the top 3. This kid is a beast on skates. 6’3″, 210lbs center man with skills and leadership.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I haven’t seen enough of him playing to know, but his size, his stats, the fact he has been playing amongst men completely supports your question.

      I really think the 4th and 5th draft picks of this upcoming draft could end up being the best picks. Nichishkin is also a real potential stud, higher risk but I think higher reward.

      • naweed235 says:

        I think he finished amongst the top scorers in the Finnish Elite league and he is just 17. I remember thinking he was the best player on ice during the World junior championship games

    • Cal says:

      Habs take on it is that Barkov sucks and will only play in Europe. At least that’s the rumour coming from the Habs scouts, anyway, in a lame attempt to pick him 24th or something. 😉


  52. What’s all the fuss about making up trading CP & others listed below? CP isn’t going anywhere unless CP wants out. Get over it & get behind your team you cheers for. CP is the Habs BEST player and a few adjustments with the team in front of him will be
    a winning formula within next couple of seasons.

    MB is a trade or a couple of Draft picks away in making a mark that will have a change of heart for most who is throwing CP underneath a bus at this moment.

    Lets see what MB & CO. are going to do in the coming days leading up to the draft and filling roster spots that’s needed to make this team much better for upcoming season. If trades aren’t there, then MB will stay the course and make trades at deadline for following season if need be. Habs will have a lot of assets for 2014-15 season. That should be the year our Habs will be competing for a very strong Cup run.

    In the meantime, Lets see how management is going to move forward with their team this coming season. I’m looking forward & excited when this draft commences in coming weeks. We all should see how MB will lead this team for years to come. Its time to get some grit that are not injury prone like they have on this team today.

    Go Habs Go!!!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Until Price is gone, this Habs team has zero chance of winning anythin, it is a well known fact.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Clearly I have been away from this blog too long.

        Who are you and what have you done with HiB??!!

      • habsfan0 says:

        Slowly…but surely…Burly is beginning to see the light.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Oh was my sarcasm font not turned on? Sorry bud you are stuck with Price for a few more years. You will have to continue to cheer against your supposed favourite team. I would hate to be in that position where I actually wanted to see the team fail miserably in order to support my feelings towards a player.

          Maybe I am simple person with limited knowledge, but I find it easier to just rather support and cheer for all the teams players.

          • habsfan0 says:

            Au contraire,mon ami…I do cheer for Price.
            However,I equate it to cheering for Rob Ford not to make another controversial move. In other words,half hearted cheering…fearing the worst,hoping for the best.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            The fact you equate Price to Ford tells me all i need to know, and I will stand by my earlier statement.

        • habsfan0 says:

          Given Ford’s girth,I’d be willing to bet he’d stop more pucks than CP.

    • habstrinifan says:

      “CP isn’t going anywhere unless CP wants out.” Interesting caveat. Dont know if this is covering your you know what or hedging your bet.

  53. Bill says:

    HanFab, I have looked at that site a fair bit and there is a lot of variability after the top five. Still looks like Gauthier, Mantha, and Rychel will be gone by the time the Habs pick tho.

  54. Phil C says:

    Many here blame Montreal’s lack of success this year on a lack of size and toughness and use Boston as an example of why big teams win.

    However I think the Habs’ demise was mainly due to a lack of depth. A good example of the importance depth is….you guessed it – Boston.

    In 2010, Boston had a very similar team to their Cup winning team. They were up 3-0 on Philly and looked destined for a ECF appearance, with only the Cinderella Habs between them and a trip to the finals. Then Krejci was injured and knocked out of the series…and things changed dramatically. A lack of depth at centre was exposed and Philly ran off 4 straight wins to complete the comeback. The Krejci injury was clearly the turning point in that series.

    So in 2011, Boston traded Wheeler for Peverley (which I thought was a poor trade at the time) and added Chris Kelly, (an under-rated 3rd line centre, IMO). A position of weakness became a position of depth and the rest is history. This year, they also have Seguin who can play centre, so they are even deeper up front.

    I think the Habs’ demise started with the Emelin injury and a lack of depth on D was exposed. It is shocking how much of a difference one player can make, but the Emelin and Krejci injuries are a great example. Like Boston’s problem at centre in 2010, the Habs will have to address their depth on defense for the team to improve. I think they need to add at least two bonafide NHL defensemen. They are not deep enough with scoring forwards either, so they are probably a 2-3 year project before they can really compete.

    No question the Habs need to get bigger, but more importantly they need more depth and talent.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Excellent post.
      And I love Chris Kelly.
      Hopefully depth is on the way….

    • Ozmodiar says:

      > demise was mainly due to a lack of depth


      Waaaay back someone (the dog or copy cat) posted a “5 questions” quiz where one of the questions was “what is the Habs biggest weakness?”.

      “Lack of depth” was my answer.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree, but a big part of depth is the fact that the Habs had only 1 dman who scares forwards with his crushing hits and once he was injured it made high scoring forwards fearless entering our zone.

      So, if we add more depth, and the depth is grittier players, can we agree that add some size/grit helps the team, all the while increasing depth?

      I think we do agree, to answer my own question.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        I’m replying, redundantly, in the positive, to the question which you already replied to, in the positive, to yourself.

        We need a minimum of 2 Emelin-style Dmen. There are quite a few teams who could punish us much worse than Ottawa did for being Emelinless.

      • frontenac1 says:

        I agree with your agree to your question and my answer amigo!

      • Phil C says:

        As a matter of fact, I do agree. As long as that size/ grit can also play top four minutes and kill penalties like Emelin did. Emelin was big and intimidating, but he was also a bonafide top-four guy that could play in all situations, regardless of the match-up. The Habs were unable to replace his grit or his top-four minutes.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          To me he could have been our most under rated player. When the Habs played the Jets towards the end of the season, Evander Kane made a comment about playing the Habs without Emelin and how different that was. Kane made no bones in earlier games how much he disliked Emelin, and that to me speaks loudly to the impact he had on opposing forwards.

    • JF says:

      Great post. As you say, the Emelin injury exposed our lack of depth on defence, and it took only one playoff game to do the same up front. We essentially lost three of our top nine in that first game, and our vaunted “balanced scoring” completely dried up. I have to believe Marc Bergevin was perfectly aware of this lack of depth at the trade deadline, which is why he made only one minor move. And with hindsight, we shouldn’t be surprised at our quick exit from the playoffs; we had no depth at all last year, and the additions to the team didn’t really change that situation much.

      The Bruins are a good example of the kind of depth you need; not just the example you give at centre, but on defence as well. In the event of an injury, they can insert Dougie Hamilton, Matt Bartkowski, or Torey Krug and not really suffer.

  55. jo_maka says:

    Actually, Roy went on record saying he did the interview with MB and wanted to coach the Habs because of Price, so there’s that.
    If this draft class is as deep as everybody says then it doesn’t make sense to sell the farm for the number one. We can offer less to adorably Homer Simpsonesque Jay Feaster for a number 6 and still get one who has a legit chance to be the best of his class. Or, seeing as our picks from Nashville and Calgary are almost 1st round grade, even V trade down for a blue chip and 2nd, say an Oleksiak, an Etem, a Niederreiter or a (gasp) Vasilevski.

  56. HabFab says:

    Interesting comparison from 8 sources on the 1st round of the Draft;

  57. naweed235 says:

    Any scenario than can get us Robin Lehner outta Ottawa?

  58. Bill says:

    There is no scenario in which Montreal could get the first or second overall pick that would not involve Subban going the other way.

    You can bundle Gorges, Diaz, Moen, DD, Kristo or whatever you want, but no one is gonna trade you a dollar for five nickels.

    As for Price, goalies are never good trade bait. Luongo still hasn’t been traded because they can’t get value for him, and he’s one of the best in the game IMO.

  59. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Don’t like McQuaid, but don’t like to see anyone rammed face-first into the boards.

    Don’t like Cooke. He has tried to clean it up, yes, and is nearly a success story fit for a Made-for-TV movie, but he can’t and isn’t.

    DO like Krug! Immediately going for Cooke. Wow — the putz Ference gets injured and Boston introduces Krug…

  60. L Elle says:

    HIO might consider the following, or it’s going to be a long summer: 😉

    The Bruins are a very very good team, and they could conceivably win the Cup again.

    Price is a great goalie.

    No one is going to give you great players in return for DD and Weber.

    • HabFab says:

      I disagree
      – summer never seems long enough
      – Boston is a very good team
      – Price is a good goalie


    • habsfan0 says:

      I agree with ALL of your points except #2.

    • Phil C says:

      Always thought Boston’s weakness was a lack of offensive defenseman, then they pull this Krug guy out of their hat…

    • New says:

      Lucic is like the energizer bulldozer. You knock him down and he gets back up, skates past the bench, and knocks someone down but makes a play. Emelin got hurt because he didn’t understand that but the refs do. Boston often seems to be as good as they have to be. Despite what the TO centric Kessel, Reimer, and Grabontoski, bots tell you.

    • naweed235 says:

      Let me ask you this: If price is a “great” goalie, then what do you call Jonathan Quick?
      Also, Buck the Fruins

      • L Elle says:

        Quick is a great goalie, no doubt. It is his day(s) in the sun, along with a great team in front of him.

        Here’s to our teams’ turn to be that good. 😉

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Easy question, He is elite! Roy was superlative, and Plante was Supercalifragilisticexpealidotious!

      • New says:

        I’d call Quick fortunate.

        Being the great goalie on a Cup winner full of all stars is a lot better than taking the blame when Vancouver can’t score. Brodeur is great because he shows up every night and seldom loses two games in a row. He is consistent. Still he is no stranger to a string of losses that would run a goalie out of Montreal, the team just sticks with him and he sticks with them.

        • habstrinifan says:

          Gotta give him more credit than that. He is better than just fortunate.

          • New says:

            Trini I mean he is fortunate to be playing with a very good team. All the skill in the world wouldn’t have allowed Quick to lead Colorado or Calgary to the Cup this year.

            If it was all about goalies the draft would be 1-30 goalies. It is too easy to blame a goalie for a loss, and sing his praises when the team wins.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            What New says should ALWAYS be kept in mind whenever we launch into one of our interminable arguments about Price (losing games, NOT stealing games, save percentages, blah blah — the success/failure of a team is the result of a very complex and intricate relationship between goalie and skaters. I doubt any of us is qualified to assign exclusive responsibility for a win or loss — of a game or series or season — to the goalie.

            It is an enjoyable diversion, mind you.

  61. Psycho29 says:


    **ducks and runs for cover**

  62. commandant says:

    Dillon Heatherington, a two way defenceman set at #51


    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

  63. commandant says:

    Matt Cooke wouldn’t have thrown that dirty check if the Bruins had some goons to protect their players.

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Having some added muscle on the team doesn’t prevent injuries or dirty hits. I don’t see how anyone can argue that it does.

      However, it can mitigate the liberties that opposing goons take with our skill players. You often hear in interviews with former tough guys comments like “I told him that if they go near xxxx, then xxxx is fair game.”.

      Having a tough guy allows other players, who aren’t comfortable with fighting, focus on their game. I think Marchand would be less effective playing on the Habs, for example.

      • commandant says:

        “Having some added muscle on the team doesn’t prevent injuries or dirty hits. I don’t see how anyone can argue that it does.”

        Its been argued here many, many times that prevention of injuries is indeed the case.

        Go Habs Go!
        Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

        • Ozmodiar says:

          Oh, man. If their arguments were sound, then the heavyweights themselves wouldn’t get injured. …and we all know that isn’t the case.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Cooke cheap shots McQuaid and gets 10min and tossed. Rat Boy does the same to Neal and gets 2min? You expect the League to be fair? Get rid of the Damned Instigator Rule before someone gets killed! Let the Enforcers dispense the Justice. Gretzky loved the protection

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Hmmm, I wonder which pot you are trying to stir with this. Why do you equate anyone asking for the Habs to getting a little tougher to the Cooke analogies? You really are hung up on this Ben.

      • commandant says:

        I’ve said it before Burly, I have no issue with getting tougher. Bickell would be great. Clarkson fantastic. A tough defenceman who can play 18-20 minutes (or more is needed).

        My objection is to the myth that being tougher would lead to less injuries, and that we wouldn’t see hits like Gryba on Eller, or Schenn on Gallagher, or other such plays against our Habs if only we were tougher. Those plays will still happen no matter how tough we get.

        That doesn’t mean I object to getting someone who can help Prust in hitting, fighting, going to the net, etc….

        Go Habs Go!
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  64. twilighthours says:

    No need to panic about the bos-Pitt series, people. Pitt just needs that first goal to go in. They had marvelous chances last night and were the far better team for 2 periods.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Full agreement, this series is far from over. The only thing I think Pitt did wrong was start Vokoun. I would have held him back as a confident backup whom the team could rally around if he was indeed needed. I still feel Fleury when on his game is better than Vokoun and I would have given Fleury a clean slate to start with against Boston.

  65. SmartDog says:

    Suddenly I’m rooting for the Kings.

    If the Bruins get by the Pens, I think the Kings have the best chance of crushing them. They have Quick in net, and they’re big and nasty. The Blackhawks… that could be Boston-Vancouver 2.0. Which would SUCK. SUCK I tell you!

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • New says:

      I’m rooting for NBC. They made the CBC on air crew look like a bunch of fifth graders holding a dog and pony show last night (in Toronto).

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        NBC have improved beyond recognition over the years — thank God! However, they still have this common American hockey commentary failing, of talking about other stuff — statistics, a player’s grandfather, the 1974 Stanley Cup, etc etc — when there’s interesting stuff happening on the ice, including goals!

        There was a great cartoon summary of this very phenomenon in a Mad Magazine book I had when I was a kid, “Mad About Sports”. If I still had it I’d love to scan and post it here.

        Dog and pony is brilliant! Cheers.

  66. Mavid says:

    that game last night worried me..Boston could actually win this series..Pens better smarten up…

  67. Habfan17 says:

    I have two scenarios for people to ponder.
    One; Trade Price, Diaz and Desharnais to Colorado for their first round pick and Varlemov. This would be a great place for Price. He can do his own groceries and be a cowboy.

    Two; Trade Price, Diaz, Holland, Weber and Desharnais to New Jersey for Brodeur, Matteau, Gelinas and The Devils 2nd round pick. This is good for both teams, The Devils have a lot of defence in the system but no real number one goalies. For the Habs, it gives then a left wing with size, a left defence with size, they are both NHL ready. Brodeur can play for one or two seasons while the Habs draft and develop a goalie or two. The devils also get a couple of roster players and a decent prospect.


    • habstrinifan says:

      Second scenario.. NO. Return isnt worth it.

      First scenario.. with Roy in the front office there.. Colorado wont do that trade. Look for Roy to come up with some solid goalie solution if he needs to. He wont give up his #1 pick for Price… or any other goalie at this stage.

    • habsfan0 says:

      I don’t think bronco busting in the mile high city of Denver is advisable.

    • SmartDog says:

      Price’s value is probably at an all time low.* Not the time to trade him. Time to hire a new goal coach or psychologist yes. But trade, no.

      *Not to say you wouldn’t get something decent, just not that much. The league saw how Price’s year ended and his numbers are not good. No-one is saying he’s the best in the league anymore… not even close.

      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • The_Truth says:

      First scenario isn’t enough for the top pick. I proposed this yesterday to get it done.

      Price, Gorges, Beaulieu, Habs 1st and 2nd + Kristo


      Avs #1 overall Pick, Cody McCLoud and Varlamov.

      If the pick is up for grabs, 29 NHL teams will come up with packages and we would have to beat them all. I don’t even know if this would be enough. With the over 10 million cap savings I still think it’s a great deal for the Habs.

    • Mark C says:

      Scenario two is a joke right?

    • habs_54321 says:

      so diaz and desharnais for the 1st overall pick since price and varlamov are basically a wash. colorado would pass.

    • commandant says:

      The second trade IS HORRIBLE for Montreal… My god is it bad.

      Brodeur is 41 years old.

      Matteau was thrown out of his junior team for being selfish and not being a team player.

      Eric Gelinas is oky, but nothing special.

      Its a 2nd round pick.

      My goodness… that’s an awful return. Mike Milbury is that you?

      Go Habs Go!
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  68. habstrinifan says:

    Am I #1

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