Habs will start Budaj in goal against Bruins

Peter Budaj will be in goal for the Canadiens when they take on the Bruins Monday night in Boston (7:30 p.m., TSN, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

With back-to-back games on the schedule, and the Buffalo Sabres visiting the Bell Centre Tuesday night, coach Michel Therrien decided to split up the goaltending duties between Budaj and Carey Price.

“It’s a challenge not just for Peter but for all our players and we love giving our players a challenge,” Therrien told reporters after the skate. “One of the reasons Peter will be in net tonight is because we want to share the load among our goaltenders. We made the decision that Peter would be in action tonight.”

Lars Eller, who suffered a lower-body injury during Saturday’s win in Toronto, took part in the full morning skate on the fourth line with Dale Weise and Travis Moen. Eller will be a game-time decision, but he looked good in the morning skate.

Michael Bournival, who was called up from the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs on the weekend, took part in the morning skate and will also be a game-time decision.

On defence, Douglas Murray was paired with P.K. Subban during the morning skate, while Francis Bouillon spent time with Jarred Tinordi and Andrei Markov was with Alexei Emelin. However, Mike Weaver told reporters after the skate that he would be in the lineup, meaning Tinordi looks to be a healthy scratch.

Tuukka Rask will start in goal for the Bruins, who are on a 12-game winning streak and have already clinched a playoff spot.

“There’s a big difference between winning 12 games in a row in November and doing it in March while teams are battling for playoff spots,” Therrien said about the Bruins. “That’s what impresses me the most about their streak.”

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings are expected to look against the Bruins:

Pacioretty-Desharnais-Vanek
Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gallagher
Gionta-Briere-Bourque
Moen-Eller-Weise

Markov-Emelin
Murray-Subban
Bouillon-Weaver

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

Habs vs. Bruins preview, NHL.com

Game Day report, Canadiens.com

Morning skate interviews (video), Canadiens.com

Game notes

Price still ‘work in progress’ as Habs get set for Bruins, TSN.ca

Habs eager to halt Bruins’ streak, ESPN.com

Bruins keep rolling as postseason approaches, NHL.com

Fun with numbers: 12 game winning streak, Boston.com

Chris Nilan weighs in on Habs-Bruins rivalry, HI/O Show

Devils send Maple Leafs to fifth straight loss, NHL.com

Bulldogs start nine-game road trip, hamiltonbulldogs.com

 

343 Comments

  1. CHicoHab says:

    Where’s Drewiske?? The farm?

  2. Sportfan says:

    I hope the Habs win tonight cause Ill have a few Bruin fans near me -_-

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  3. gmoan says:

    Protecting Price… Sad

  4. Maritime Ronn says:

    Not to be confused with Aristotle or Plato…

    Dion Phaneuf: “No one’s happy with what’s gone on, but it’s reality.”

  5. billylove says:

    Habs – Goons, it’s the best! Really wanted to see Price but can understand sitting him for this one. Starting with Guinness this afternoon and then switching to my special California stash for an “expansive” view of the game. Oh, the humanity!

  6. somtawyer says:

    Starting budaj is the right call to avoid the net crashing Bruins from making Price’s recovery to 100% health any longer

  7. rhino514 says:

    Saying that many players have regressed under therrien is unfair. Management (yes, this comes from the top) has consciously decided to have the team play a tight, ultra-defensive, boring style this year because it believes a more creative, freer style, like the one we had last year, would get killed in the playoffs. The jury is out on that one, and we will just have to wait and see.
    EEVERY forward on the habs with the eception of Pacioretty and desharnais have had a worse year offensively. that cannot be a coincidence; it is proof of the implementation of a rigid defensive style.
    Veterans like Plekanec and Gionta who are rock solid consistent when healthy; even their numbers have suffered. Most of us believe Gionta is washed up, but he has 15 goals playing alongside a shutdown centreman all year and no PP time. Wouldn´t he have his usual plus twenty goals under more favorable conditions? I believe he would.
    The implementation of this style of play has everyone thinking the habs are an offensively challenged team which is good defensively (though this has been mitigated somewhat with the acquisition of Vanek; interestingly enough, the addition of one of the league´s top snipers has done absolutely nothing to the team´s goals for so far).
    the only guy who you could say has really had an off year and has hurt us is, is eller. within the context of what this system does to offensive numbers.
    The good news is that hopefully next year someone will realize that this system isn´t suited to the current team and when they do, we will go back to having 5 or 6 twenty goal scorers and our goals for will once again soar. Ah, and we won´t play suhc boring hockey.
    The irony would be if we play this stifling, rigid system and still don´t get past the first round; then we have suffered through a year of boring hockey and made incredible demands on our forwards for nothing.
    I am not saying to try and play like the Caps, but a bit more creative licence for our talented forwards will not hinder this team IMO. In any case, playing this type of hockey for more than a year or two, unless you are the devils, just isn´t sustainable; eventually both the players and the fans tire of it.

    • Kfourn says:

      This is an excellent post and I agree 100% This rigid defensive system is not suited for the Habs…sure it worked for a couple of playoff rounds under Jacques Martin against some offensive power houses (and goaltending was outstanding), but once philly figured out that all they had to do was forecheck hard and crashed the net the Habs had no answer. There has to be some sort of middle ground, an offensive system but without the swarm defense that we saw last year. They need a system with quick transition and possession when crossing the enemy blue line, quick support passes in the offensive zone and full out back checking from the forwards to help out the D…or at least a 2 man back check.

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    • bwoar says:

      Great post Rhino.

  8. UKRAINIANhab says:

    One guy who moi is impressed with is Mike Weaver. This guy does not deserve to sit. At all.

    • johnnylarue says:

      He’s a good shot blocker and fairly steady in his own zone, but I tend to side with the MOAR crowd in this case–I don’t think playing both Cube and Weaver is a good idea against a rather large team like da Broonz.

    • bwoar says:

      I’m pretty sure he’s in tonight, and yeah, he’s been OK. Him + Murray though, not a good combo.

  9. Jonson says:

    THe fact that Price is not starting tonight is an embarrassment to the habs and the fans. WHen you are playing the hottest team in the league and when youre the playing the biggest game of the year and when its a back to back where both goalies each get a game , it makes no sense that Price isnt facing the good team and budaj faces the bad team.
    Just a STUPID coaching move, dumb as nails.
    it makes me less excited for tonights game, no way we can win this with budaj in the net. goodbye 2 points . This would of been a game where we could see how we match up with a power house before going into the playoffs, now its meaningless.

    • shiram says:

      Saturday’s game was more important than this one tonight.

      • Jonson says:

        that game is over, tonight is now the biggest game of the season

        • Mattyleg says:

          Why?

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Jonson says:

            you have to play every game from here on out like its the biggest game of the season.
            why would you need me to explain that?

        • UKRAINIANhab says:

          Ughh it is a big game, not the biggest though!

        • shiram says:

          So it’s equally as important as the game against Buffalo then?
          Reason enough to play Price tomorrow.

          • The Jackal says:

            Good one!

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          • Jonson says:

            wow so clever, whos better boston or buffalo?
            i dont understand any of you really. for you guys who want to see budaj in net tonight against the bruins is sad. how much do you enjoy this rivalry and even great hockey. should be the best against the best.

          • shiram says:

            I think they can win just as well with Budaj, and they have done so before.
            And it’s not about me wanting to see Budaj in net, but about accepting a coaching decision for which there are reasons, and for which we have absolutely no control over.

            You can continue to get angrier, but it’s not going to change tonight’s starter.

    • johnnylarue says:

      DOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

      ‘Cause it’s not like Budaj already beat the Bruins once this year…

    • Mattyleg says:

      This isn’t the biggest game of the year.
      Toronto’s was much bigger.
      We’re nowhere near Boston.

      This isn’t a stupid coaching move, but your criticism indicates that you probably just don’t understand it.

      Budaj is good against the Bruins, and Price will be fresh when our players are tired tomorrow night.

      This will be a game where we see how we match up against a powerhouse.

      (and it’s ‘would have’, not ‘would of’ – not a criticism, just a pet peeve of mine!)

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • johnnylarue says:

        Your patience is admirable.

      • Jonson says:

        no ,clearly you dont understand it. this is not game 32 or 40, the season is basically over. you think they will sit Rask tonight so he can rest? no i really doubt it, why? cause they want to continue winning.
        the reason why i think its the biggest game is because if we win and snap their streak then our confidence going into the playoffs will be huge. and if carey is in net for then that will give a lot more confidence too. Im sure Price wants to be in net tonight cause its a huge game. And if we worried about Price getting tired or hurt or whatever than he isnt ready to back. this game doesnt mean as much without Price in net

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Rask has had an easy go of it lately

          His last 3 games
          March 13-17-22.

          He has started only 2 of the past 5 Bruins games and the Bruins don’t play again until Thursday…and the Bruins played the backup last week against Colorado.

    • Habs1962 says:

      I hear you, but Budaj has a great record against the Bruins and it if he can do it again… it is good for team confidence that we can beat them with the back up and they know Price will perform if we get to meet them in the playoffs.

    • GrimJim says:

      Is now a good time to mention that Budaj is 1-1 vs the Bruins with a 0.925 save % and a 2.50 GAA this year, and he’s 4-2 against them in his career (0.911, 2.68)?

    • joeybarrie says:

      Tell us what you really think…..

      How about the fact that Budaj is 4-1 vs the bruins??? Do you have an explanation as to why we beat the sruins those 4 times??? Yet tonight there is NO WAY we can win???. seems quite short sighted to me.
      GO BUDAJ, GO HABS

      • Jonson says:

        Have you not seen the way they are playing ?? and pretty sure Budaj lost his last start against them. I’m not saying budaj cant beat the bruins ever, but tonight at this stage of the season with the bruins winning 12 straight they should be going with Price.

        • Mustang says:

          I really don’t care who is in the net tonight as long as the Habs win. If they lose against the Bruins tonight, we can all second-guess MT tomorrow. But right now STAY POSITIVE. GO HABS GO.

          • Jonson says:

            ill still be cheering, just takes away from the excitment. i would of liked to see their best against our best. would of been nice to see how we match up against them.

    • bwoar says:

      This is dumb.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Maybe they shouldn’t even play the game and just award the Bruins the 2 points?

  10. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I know we have back to back games but why not go with your #1 against the best team & play Budaj tomorrow. I also know that Budaj is undefeated in Boston but that doesn’t mean much. Hoping it all works out. We’ll see.

  11. shiram says:

    It would not be hockey if the best team always won, if underdogs could not make a thrilling comeback and if the fans were not complaining! ;)

  12. Chris says:

    I’m always surprised at the degree to which people deal with absolutes on this web site.

    Michel Therrien is not a bad coach…far from it. I’m still not convinced that he is the right coach from Montreal, but it is pretty hard to argue with the team’s results in his ~ 120 games at the helm. Montreal has earned 148 points since the start of last season, a total bested only by Chicago (174), Pittsburgh (169), Boston (165), Anaheim (165), St. Louis (163) and San Jose (157). You can make a very compelling argument that every single one of those teams’ coaches enjoy a significant talent advantage over Therrien, so ranking as perhaps the best of the second-tier contenders over his tenure is not bad coaching.

    So yes, Therrien’s first and foremost job is to win hockey games. But there shouldn’t be any argument whatsoever that a secondary goal is to develop his players so that the team continues to improve. And it isn’t just the young players, either: one of Scotty Bowman’s biggest successes was very close to being one of his most spectacular failures. He tried reinventing Steve Yzerman’s game after Yzerman had already established himself as the third best offensive player in the game, behind Gretzky and Lemieux. The friction between Yzerman and Bowman was legendary, and it very nearly led to Yzerman’s being traded away on a couple of occasions, had it not been for the deals falling through.

    Tinordi gets more bench time than some would like because he has not firmly established that he brings more to the table than the veterans he is trying to displace. He is certainly faster than Murray and bigger than Bouillon, but he is prone to a couple of glaring (and frequently costly) goofs per game. Given his complete lack of offensive ability, he’s got to play an absolutely clean game to be effective.

    • krob1000 says:

      That is pretty well exactly how I see it….except I see TInordi being able to develop a little more offense than people suspect.

      • Chris says:

        I haven’t seen it Rob. His junior numbers, his AHL numbers and his NHL numbers are all well below NHL level. He may still be learning to adjust to the growth spurt he had at 16 or 17, and it does take big guys longer to maximize their potential, but he’s not shown much sign of any kind of offensive ability.

        I think he projects to be a Rob Scuderi type of defenceman. That isn’t a bad thing, but it means that he has to be a guy whose name you never hear during the game. Safe plays, quick passes, no coverage mistakes.

        • krob1000 says:

          Big players often don;t develop until later…he has shown glipses of late that have me pretyexcited that he may develop into a player like his old man. I can see him being able to play big mins at even strength, on a 2nd pp and being a 30 pt guy with over 100 pims and a plus 20 rating.

          • Chris says:

            With another dead-puck era firmly established, Mark Tinordi’s numbers from the 1990′s would correlate to something like 20 points in today’s NHL. I think Jarred Tinordi will be lucky to be a 15-25 point guy in the NHL, but those would be respectable totals. That is the numbers that Marc-Edouard Vlasic posts in the NHL, and he was a top offensive defenceman in junior.

            Brooks Orpik and Rob Scuderi have had nice NHL careers as 10-20 point defensive defencemen. I can see Karl Alzner and Tinordi following their example.

    • The Jackal says:

      Well said Chris, that’s exactly my view on MT.
      He is not a bad coach and has done a good job at winning, but I am unsure if he is the right coach for the long-term.

      I am concerned at how our young guys have kind of regressed this year, but it is too early too tell if that is due to coaching or just an off year.
      PK’s game is what concerns me the most. He is over-thinking things and trying to do too much, whereas last year he did a great job of keeping it simple while still playing his game. I think the buildup to the Olympics and being on the bench has lit a fire in him but he has yet to harness it properly.

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      • Chris says:

        Subban’s problem is the same thing that Drew Doughty faced: other teams now have enough tape of his tendencies that they are starting to read him better.

        We’ve seen Subban skate into coverage numerous times this season as teams have learned how to force him to do just that. Subban is struggling to adapt to that, and his offensive numbers will probably settle in at a slightly lower rate than what he was putting up last season and through the early part of this season.

        Doughty peaked around 60 points in his second season, but has settled in as a 35-45 point guy since then as he’s learned to take only what he’s given while focusing on improving his defensive play. Subban will probably settle in as a 40-50 point guy per season as he continues to tighted up his defensive play.

    • Paz says:

      When Therrien was hired, bringing along and helping to develop Subban, Eller, and then Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Tinordi, was part of the job description.

      Helping to play these players properly, giving them the best chance to succeed, is fundamentally part of his job.

      To think otherwise is, frankly, misunderstanding what is expected of an NHL coach.

      • The Jackal says:

        No offense Paz, I respect your opinion and contributions to discussions on HIO, but I think your view of MT is highly biased to the extent that you forgo other explanations for things such as the young players’ regression.

        MT and all other NHL coaches are certainly expected to continue developing players and giving them the best chance to succeed, and it is curious that you assume MT is not doing these things. Perhaps there is a greater plan at work, developed with management, which hinges on using veterans and bring young players along slowly this season. Since it may be the last season we have a few vets on the team, it makes sense to try and get the most out of them and try to win a few rounds – the addition of Vanek would support this approach.

        Not that using the younger players would be a mistake, but there are many proven veterans who can help the team in the post-season and make less mistakes – something the Habs will benefit from. Next season is when we can expect the young players to carry the torch and get more responsibility. It’s best to have a cautious approach considering how we botched the development of other guys by bringing them in too fast.

        We have serviceable veterans who can still play well, so why not use them while we have them rather than waste those assets?

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      • Chris says:

        I think there is some validity to that, but Therrien plays the team that Bergevin has built for him.

        Bergevin was the guy that signed Murray and re-signed Bouillon. With Markov, Subban, Emelin and Gorges in the fold, that made ice time for Tinordi and Beaulieu very hard to come by. With the addition of Weaver and the imminent return of Gorges, one of the veterans is going to be sitting, and so are Tinordi or Beaulieu.

        Putting players in a position to succeed is absolutely part of the job description for an NHL coach. So let’s look at the cases:

        Tinordi/Beaulieu/Emelin: All are played on their off-side because the Habs simply didn’t have any right-handed defencemen. Markov, Gorges, Emelin, Tinordi, Bouillon, Beaulieu, and Murray are all left-handed, while only Diaz (replaced now by Weaver) and Subban were right-handed. This one is more on Bergevin, as far as I am concerned, than Therrien.

        Eller: I am a big supporter of Eller’s. He is a good developing defensive player that can contribute offensively. What is always a bit mystifying is that people insist that his regression this season is a lack of opportunity: he’s been given the same opportunities this season as he enjoyed last season. He had Galchenyuk as his winger for most of the season, and his 5-on-5 ice time is as high as it was last season. The problem here is Eller…he has lost his confidence (don’t forget, he needed a sports psychologist going into last season because of confidence issues) again, and it has gotten to the point that 2013-14 is essentially a lost season. Some mistakes were definitely made along the way, but I suspect Eller would be the first to say that this miserable season is largely on him.

        Galchenyuk: I’m not sure what people were expecting here. I was expecting Galchenyuk to start putting the tools together by the second half of this season, but then he missed a month with a broken hand. Galchenyuk and Yakupov were the top-2 offensive players taken in a fairly weak 2012 draft. They are tied for the scoring lead in their draft year, each with 55 points. The next closest players are a trio of offensive defencemen: Olli Maatta, who benefits from the high-powered Penguins offence, with 28 points, while Hampus Lindholm (benefiting from the similarly high-powered Ducks offence) and Jakob Trouba are tied with 26 points.

        Gallagher: He’s doing fine.

        Subban: I think his struggles are more a result of the rest of the NHL having scouted him so heavily. He’s now in the period of having to re-adjust his game and become less predicatble, something that similar defencemen (especially Drew Doughty) had to do before him.

        The expectations around Galchenyuk and Yakupov were too high. Both will be good NHL players, but they are not at the same level as Crosby, Ovechkin, Stamkos, Kane or Tavares. Instead, people should look at a guy like James van Riemsdyk, who took a few years after his draft to put everything together.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think as it relates to the word development, there is largely a misinterpretation of what various posters think the term means.

      A head coach can only be primarily concerned with how players on the present roster are playing within the system or parameters which he has set forth. If a younger player is called up and isn’t ready in the coaches view for playing NHL minutes they typically are sent back down to the AHL where hopefully the AHL coach will work on those things with the player. There is development getting to the NHL and then development once at the NHL level.

      I think this is part of the reason for the debate below…. but who knows, just my guess.

    • Solid post as always, Chris.

      We can’t fairly compare Therrien to Hitchcock, Julien, Bylsma, Quenneville, etc. without also comparing their rosters. But good coaching is all about making the most of what you’ve got, and I wonder if Therrien well-placed to squeeze the most out of this particular team’s skillset, either in the short or long term.

      In the short term:
      On the rare occasions where we play a run’n'gun style, we generally give good teams fits. I’m not saying it shoudl be all speed all the time, but our roster just isn’t built for a hermetic grinding game, and we’ve got some forwards (and one defender) who can really fly. I can’t help thinking that, given more freedom to open up the game, some of our even-strength scoring difficulties could be cleared up.

      In the long term:
      While it must be tough to strike the ideal balance between the need for wins and the need for development, I wonder whether Therrien leans a little too far toward the “wins” end of the equation. For example, Galchenyuk is no Mackinnon or Ryan Johansen at this stage in his career. But I wonder if, given a little more leash and an opportunity to play his natural position, he might have developed with similar speed. And Tinordi, as you say, is prone to mistakes, but one has to think he’s going to reach his potential a lot more quickly if he’s given a chance to play more than 11:47 of even-strength time/game. Beaulieu, in his short stints, looked like he was ready to contribute as well, and filled a desperate need for offence from the blue line that no combination of Murray/Weaver/Bouillon is going to provide.


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      • Chris says:

        Your short-term point is the very reason I said I’m not sure that Therrien is the right fit for Montreal’s current roster. When the Habs run’n'gun, they can skate with anybody. Unfortunately for many, that style was deemed ineffective in the playoffs after the Senators spanked the Habs last spring. The evidence of the Oilers and Capitals also suggests that this style of play has limitations.

        The present roster is built to be a speedy counter-attacking team. Last year’s Swarm defence, which I hated, catered to this mentality but it unfortunately led to just about as many goals against as goals for. In the playoffs, I feel like that style is too predictable and a well-coached team that sees you game after game is going to figure it out pretty quickly.

        This year, the team seems to be trying to play an ultra-conservative New Jersey Devils-esque defensive game. Unfortunately, the lesson of the Devils has been forgotten: they were able to win with that style because their defence corps in those years (Scott Niedermayer, Scott Stevens, Brian Rafalski, Ken Daneyko, Tommy Albelin, and Colin White) was VERY good. Montreal’s is not…how many times this season have we seen guys skate right up the middle as the defence suddenly parts like the Red Sea before Moses? Too many.

        Galchenyuk presents a conundrum for me…he’s the victim of the numbers game. I think everybody wants him to be at centre, including Therrien, but who do you remove? Desharnais, for all his faults, plays very well with Pacioretty. Plekanec is simply miles ahead of Galchenyuk at this point of their respective careers. So it is Galchenyuk or Eller, Eller or Galchenyuk…regardless, the ice time is not likely to change all that much. The big problem for Galchenyuk (and Eller, for that matter) is that they are both playmakers that lack a true sniper for the right wing. Galchenyuk has a world-class wrist shot but he isn’t using it in the NHL. Eller is not a triggerman. So they need somebody who is. The problem is that there aren’t enough snipers to go around the three lines, especially with Bourque in a funk.

    • montreal ace says:

      Some very good posts Cris enjoy reading them

  13. RetroMikey says:

    Thanks Serge,
    I will cherish this great video of a great rivalry between the Bruins and Canadiens.
    The 1080p file is amazing!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  14. Maritime Ronn says:

    Re Budaj starting.tonight

    Here’s wondering IF there may be more to it than just protecting Price.

    Is it possible that it may be part of an audition to be Price’s backup for next year?

    In the past few years, there has been an increased importance for the #2 goalie.
    With tough schedules and increased injury to the #1s, teams are looking for goalies who can perform ‘under pressure’ if they are asked to assume a number 1 role for a period of time.

    While Budaj appears to be well liked and appreciated by Price and team mates, he has not been very good when called upon to replace Carey – Game 5 against Ottawa last year, and once again this year.

    Then there is Dustin Tokarski to consider.
    He is 7 years younger than Budaj, and has a similar pre-NHL pedigree to Price…yet was never handed the job in Tampa.
    Tokarski has won a Memorial Cup (named MVP)-World Junior Gold-AHL Calder Cup.

    Budaj has 1 year left on his contract at $1.4M, while Tokarski will become an RFA and would cost the Habs no more than $900K max.

    • The Jackal says:

      Good point… before I read the entirety of your post, I was thinking perhaps Reimer – if the Leafs are dumb enough to let him go – would be a good backup for Price. Is that heretical?

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      • Maritime Ronn says:

        I don’t believe the Leafs would ever trade with the Habs.
        Too frightened of the outcome
        Reimer would be very expensive for a #2

      • ffenliv says:

        Reimer will get a shot somewhere else. Habs fans, Leaf fans, crow all you want about being ‘superior’ to other fan bases (if indeed that’s something you do), are in my estimation, all the same when it comes to under-performing players:we go nuts and run them out of town.

        Remember when it got so bad for Price he gestured to the crowd during a game after they ‘cheered’ a routine save? That’s the sort of behaviour that sends good players elsewhere, like the Leafs are doing with Reimer. He’s been good in the past for them, and may well be again, but nothing is good enough.

  15. Stevie.Ray says:

    Will this be Budaj’s last start of the season? We do have two more back to backs left this season, and our position is almost locked up.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      I think he’ll get 2 more at least after this one…..for a total of 3. CP031 will take the crease for the other 7. Might be one more or one less depending how the season boils down to at the end.

      Shaker out!

  16. Steeltown Hab says:

    The Therrien Circus Continues….

    - Of the #6 D (Bou, Weaver, Murray) – Weaver’s looked the best and is R-handed…let’s scratch him
    - Let’s ice the least mobile with Subban (Murray) and get Tinordi back in a “comfort” zone playing on his wrong side with the worst dman on the roster
    - Budaj instead of Price. Play your worse goalie against the best team in the east, than your and maybe the leagues best Goalie against the worst in the league..

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  17. Paz says:

    Therrien takes pride in his ability to develop young players. He has stated this publicly.

    To believe that Therrien does not consider the impact his decisions have on Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Bournival, Tinordi etc, is extremely naive.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Eller, Subban, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Emelin have all regressed from last yr. Albeit not by huge amounts but are all having a worse year than last yr. He can’t develop youth. He just brings them on at a ridiculously slow pace or puts them on their offside (emelin, Tinordi, Beaulieu) than calls that ‘development’

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      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

      • Paz says:

        I’m not saying Therrien has been successful at it. But he does take their development into account. It’s part of his job to bring the young players along properly.

      • D Mex says:

        Is there a * reliable * source upon which to base the assertion that 81, 76, 11, 27 and 74 ” have all regressed ” or are ” all having a worse year than last (year) ” ?

        ALWAYS Habs -
        D Mex

        • Paz says:

          Gallagher is doing well.

          All the others on your list are not doing as well as expected.

          Don’t really need stats for that. It’s clear to everyone.

        • krob1000 says:

          Is there a *reliable* source for anyhing?
          IT is pretty hard to debate that all of those guys with the exception of Gallagher have had extended funks and all have been put in positions that were difficult and potentially damaging to their confidence. Chucky is a natural center or playeed RW in junior…he is an offensive player who has not been given any time with the teams best triggermen or in his natural position., Subban has had revolving d partners and sometimes appears confused…for 55 minutes he is asked to play conservatively…then if the team is down they ask him to go crazy. Emellin is paired mainly with Markov (his offside ) as well. Eller has been thrown around the lineup as much as any Hab in recent memory. All have seen drops in play levels from last season ..except Gallagher. That does not mean they will not pick it up as all also had stretches ofvery good play as well…but it is pretty hard to make a case that nay of them has perfomred better than this year…that is with a *reliable* source to back it up.

          • D Mex says:

            Makes my point : the word ” all ” is used twice, in a weak attempt to emphasize a non-point. Really, all we have here are gratuitous negative comments, ie : same-old same-old on game day at HI/O.

            Pfft …

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

        • The Jackal says:

          There’s no reliable source for the criticisms repeated here about MT other than subjective opinion. Not to say MT is flawless but a lot of the comments against him are based on a dislike of him rather than an actual objective evaluation.

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          • Paz says:

            Evaluating the performances of players against last year is very easy to do. These players have regressed.

          • D Mex says:


            Weakest post I’ve ever read.

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

          • Paz says:

            Hey thanks Dmex! I was worried you couldn’t read. Now I know it’s just the understanding of the words that confuses you.

      • bwoar says:

        Emelin – hurt
        Gallagher – not regressed
        Subban – he’s Subban, he’ll progress when he learns
        Galchenyuk & Eller – like Subban, had it easy during a half season.

        I really am surprised at how many of you blame coaching. It’s as if a grown freakin’ player who’s had coaches his whole life (some good, some bad) is entirely dependent on them to live up to (your) expectations.

        I dunno if it’s too much Sega hockey or what, but the coaches take WAY, WAY too much flak for the performances of the young players on the team. Do you bring your Mom to work, too?

        • The Jackal says:

          Agree with you bwoar, except with the Subban comment.
          He’s having an off year considering how good he can be, and it is possible MT is not the best coach for him (and this is just going on a limb here) but at the same time, every player has off seasons and we can’t say if this is due to coaching or just PK trying to do too much and losing some confidence.
          That being said, every young player is still learning and getting better, and so is PK, but he is good enough to make his mistakes and still be an impact player. His off play this year is not really due to him needing to learn more.

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          • Paz says:

            Subban is the best dman we have and it’s not even close.

            Markov is really struggling.

          • D Mex says:

            … best, worst, all, none …
            Do the words ‘ objective ‘, ‘ credible ‘ or ‘ credibility ‘ convey any meaning to you ?

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

      • ffenliv says:

        Subban is a totally different case from the others in your list. He’s been in the league a while now, and, it seems, has a pretty big ego. That’s a different thing for Therrien to manage than ‘youth’. I’m not sold on the two always seeing eye to eye.

        As for the others, young kids will have ups and downs. Personally, I’m not much of a fan of Eller’s. I think a lot of expectation is placed on him around here based on a) the trade, and b) flashes of skill and ability.

        Gallagher’s game is very intense, and that’s no different. You can’t expect players to just ‘be better’ every year. He’s done pretty well for himself.

        And Galchenyuk .. he’s a center, and Therrien seems to be shielding him from the beating he’ll get when he moves to that spot full-time. It’s a very difficult spot to learn, and I hope he’s benefiting from a season of seeing how it’s done, without having to do it. If he’s not at C next year, Therrien might indeed be a moron.

    • krob1000 says:

      I agree and disagree at the same time. I think MT is great at developing the details aspects of the game and is great at teaching the risk analysis and decision making with respect to the defensive side of the game. Where I have issues is with not providing enough carrots to the youngsters offensively and being too limiting. Overall MT has obviously done well enough to have team in contention for a playoff spot. They did finish higher last season. He has done some good and some things that I do not approve of…but who the heck am I. You could ask 20 players or coaches in confidence and all would likely have varying answers….but that does not mean anything MT does is done maliciously or without regard to development. His primary mandate though is to win. I think this is why he was moved from PIttsburgh…he did what needed to be done with the kids…had them learn the game away fromthe puck,etc…but the organization knew when it was time to let go.

      • Paz says:

        I thought Therrien was fired because he blew out a gasget blaming his players publicly.

        • krob1000 says:

          From what I have gathered with diff’t reports over the year sit was more that he was keeping the star guys a little too limited offesnively. The fact Maro Lemiuex was the owner probably helped things…he understands as well as anyonein the history of the game the need to let guys Like Crosby and malkin have a longer leash …they still needed to be taught the pro game…but they also need to be able to take risks if the possibility of reward is there

  18. Habs1962 says:

    Good Plan … Budaj has a great record against bruins and Price will be in the cage tomorrow.
    Would be sweet to make it 3 in a row.. Sens killed, Leafs Wounded and beat the Bruins and end their winning streak !

  19. MacHenri says:

    The Bruins vs. Habs is the best rivalry in the league.

    The big bad Bruins are on a roll, and our Habs have shown a lot of character of late.

    It will be entertaining.

    Go Habs!

  20. The Jackal says:

    This move by MT (starting Budaj) is another nail in the “MT ruins players’ confidence” coffin.

    Good move, Budaj has been good this season and we can’t blame him for the bad games he had lately. This move shows MT and the team have confidence in Budaj and they are demonstrating that by giving him the start tonight. No doubt Budaj and the team will respond positively to this.

    Also, it gives Price an extra day of rest. No point in giving him so many games after coming back from an injury he played through. We can’t risk him aggravating it again by playing too often. An extra day will be just fine.

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    • Steeltown Hab says:

      How do you not start Price in this huge game? Especially leading into the playoffs where the intensity will be at this level.

      What other coach in the league would use there backup vs. Boston and starter vs Buffalo in a back to back honestly.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

      • Kooch7800 says:

        managing his minutes for Price as they play again tomorrow. The habs will make the playoffs but will most likely be playing Tampa and Tampa will have the home ice advantage.

        This team needs Price to be dialed in for the playoffs and well rested. Last year going in Price was hurting and eventually was out with a groin injury and that was it for the habs

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        I see the likely thinking as:

        Price stretched during every stoppage in play on Saturday night. He is not 100% okay.

        There is a potential for tonight’s game to be a Bruins’ shooting gallery which not even Price, not a 100%, can overcome.

        So you gamble on your backup, boost his confidence, message your team to tighten it up, and hope that Price can bank the two points against Buffalo.

        But, of course, I am not in MT’s head.

  21. Sportfan says:

    I love how there is always a debate when a hockey game is on, like people of Quebec will really focus on them over the Habs vs. Bruins

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  22. The Bruins are gonna lose one of these next games, so it may as well be tonight!

    Habs 6
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  23. jimmy shaker says:

    just checkin out PK and Carey’s twitter and .com sites. They are pretty sweet. And I think Drew Doughty and Carey must be related somehow. They really do look a like I think!

    Shaker out!

  24. HabinBurlington says:

    Oilers just lost their goalie Fasth in practice today. This should help them solidify a 30th place finish. Kevin Lowe must be pumped at another good draft pick.

    33 minutes ago
    TSNRyanRishaug: Fasth has been hurt at Oiler practice.

  25. Maritime Ronn says:

    Looking at the teams, they both are in the same area considering specialty teams.
    The Habs PK is slightly better, while the Bruins PP is slightly better.

    The huge difference ‘to date’ this year is 5X5 play – meaning the net difference of goals scored vs. goals against in 5X5 play only.

    While the Habs have moved up from 26th to 21st in the past several weeks, the Bruins are # 1 in the NHL.

    Habs goals scored 5X5: 113 (27th in NHL)
    Habs goals against 5X5: 126 (12th)
    Net: Minus -13.

    Bruins goals scored 5X5: 159 (3nd in NHL)
    Bruins goals against 5X5: 100 (2nd)
    Net: Plus +59

  26. JF says:

    All streaks come to an end. Could this be the night for the B’s? No only are they unbeaten in 12, but they’re coming off a western road trip. The first game back is sometimes tough; teams tend to relax and lose their focus a bit. Players are back with their families, and part of their attention will have turned to family things. Hopefully this will favour the Habs. We have to pounce early.

  27. HabinBurlington says:

    I think it is a good sign that all the “real” coaches here at HI/O are mad as Heck and accusing MT of having zero clue how to coach or make a lineup.

    This normally occurs prior to some of our biggest wins.

    So I guess I am saying thanks to all of you who think MT is full of Kife.

  28. L Elle says:

    Last 2 games vs Boston:

    In Boston, Rask gets pulled, and Budaj “wins”.
    2 weeks ago, Rask wins, and Budaj is just OK.

    Price’s career stats vs Boston: 17-8-3. Who says Price isn’t that good against Boston?

    Rask has terrible numbers versus our Habs, but he’s the #1, and keeps on playing, no matter what.

    Of course, if this is about Price’s injury, it’s another matter.

  29. bwoar says:

    @Storm Man

    If you think an NHL head coach’s job is to bring along and develop players than you’re dead wrong.

    The only thing MT has to do is win. That’s his job. win hockey games. Super easy to remember, innit?

    I’d said before, he can take a steaming dump on his young players, or blow on their little toenails, or ignore them utterly – it doesn’t mean jack, so long as he wins. If they aren’t NHL ready and more trustworthy than the vets, they can find a bench and keep it parked.

    Since I’m on the topic: goalie coaches are there to help goalies. Defense coaches are there to coach defense. Assistant coaches are there to wipe players’ butts and jockey the clipboard. Head coaches are there to win hockey games or be fired.

    See the EDMONTON OILERS for a great example of what happens when you let a player-development-first coach run your hockey team for you.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Your final point is so bang on! Not that I don’t agree with your earlier points, I just wasn’t aware of the toenail thing. Nice how you could blend in a bit of Rex Ryan. ;-)

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      You are basically right, and it also depends on the team itself and the makeup of the personnel and options.

      There is no such thing as development in the NHL.
      Of course a youngster can make mistakes – that’s called gaining experience, yet he has to step it up and force a coach’s hand to prove he can be better in ‘The Now’ vs. other options available.
      It really comes down to winning trust.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Good call.
      Ask the past Habs how good Blake was with youngsters (Cournoyer), or Bowman.
      Think they sat up at night worrying about destroying their players’ confidence?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • The Jackal says:

      Hey bwoar, gotta disagree with your claim that NHL coaches are not expected to develop talent.
      Yes, the primary job is to win and achieve goals measured by winning (winning division, conference, series, etc.), but at the same time, coaches are expected to develop the young talent on the NHL squad. That’s why people are rightfully concerned that our young talent has for the most part regressed this year.

      MT has done a good job in terms of having a winning record and making decisions that lead to that. But MT (and other NHL coaches) are expected to give young players the opportunities to achieve their potential and to nurture their talent.

      Teams in rebuilding stages don’t hire coaches with the goal of winning games, they hire coaches with the goal of getting the most out of their young players so that they may develop into better players in the future.

      Likewise, contending teams have the goal of winning it all, but coaches will still give rookies on those teams chances to succeed and the continue developing. Julien, for example, has given Krug, Smith, and Bartkowski more and more responsibility, and the Bruins’ coaching staff have continued to help those players develop.

      All in all, NHL coaches must continue to develop their young talent, otherwise teams will just stagnate or implode.

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      • bwoar says:

        I’m going far to illustrate a point to young master Storm Man, who still doesn’t seem to be getting it.

        To your point about teams in rebuilding stages, frankly, it’s debatable. I don’t buy it for a minute, honestly; you hire asst. guys and Brisebois types to help your young guys develop. Your example of Julien is off-base, the Bruins have had, and continue to have, injuries on D that are making room for youngsters. And Krug forced his hand last year – that’s the point I made about kids needing to displace a veteran. You don’t want a win-at-all-costs guy if you’re hoping to TANK, but he need to instill a winning culture, and that starts with the expectation of winning, and punishing those who don’t do what it takes to win. The bench, the rack, a drink from the penalty horn, whatever. If you tell NHL players that they’re on a rebuilding club and you just want them to get better? You get, I say again, the cluster-cuss in Oil Town. You need a Kennan to come in for a couple years, blast them to hell, and then get fired once the egos (driven by winning) start to match the talent and the effort is there.

        The success of the Penguins came largely because of Therrien breaking up the country club (before he was finally tuned out.) He’s credited, by Crosby himself, for teaching them to act and play like winners.

        To our actual situation:

        Those of you (not you Jackal) blaming MT like he’s solely responsible for Tinordi’s lack of ice, or Beaulieu’s: MT went out and got Weaver as insurance solely because the kids have inspired VERY LITTLE TRUST in the coaching staff as a whole and MB, as a former defenseman, is in a position to judge for himself as well. I don’t think Bergevin is ignoring the development of his two young defenders (nor Pateryn for that matter) and right now they just can’t be added to the lineup as much as you’d hope.

        Honestly, with a flaky-as-hell P.K. Subban out there, we’ve got exactly 1 defenseman we can trust with moving the puck – Markov – and even that isn’t a sure thing for 60 mins. a night. There no way we can have rookies making game-losing mistakes 1 night in 3 unless Emelin gains his mojo back. And Gorges comes back. And Subban restarts his season. Those things are all longshots to happen.

        • The Jackal says:

          I think winning and developing are two sides of the same coin.
          Perhaps Bruins’ rookies forced Julien’s hand but he is still playing them a lot and a reason for that is because they give the team a chance to win, on the other hand, the Bruins could have made a trade for a veteran D or something like that rather than give Krug more responsibility.
          The same is true for Maatta in Pitts and for other youngsters who claim spots. All coaches need to be ready for these situations and be able to provide young players with the proper space in which they can continue to develop, and a big side of this is how they are coached or utilized by a team.

          Coaching needs will vary from team to team as you say, but in your examples it is evident that coaching in the NHL is a form of development. Sometimes a hard-ass coach needs to come in and crack the whip and team players accountability and defensive play, other times a coach comes in and preaches character and teamwork, and other times a coach is all about winning, etc. – all these approaches teach players different things and they implement them into their game, which in essence is development. The key for young players is to continue learning as they go, and since every team can be realistically expected to have 1-2 or even more rookies/youngsters at any given moment, NHL coaches must be able to continue developing that talent by helping them learn new aspects of the game at the highest level.

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  30. BJ says:

    We need to be at our best which we weren’t the last game vs bruins. But keep in mind that Boston also has to play its best to beat us which they did the last time. I think we can certainly play with them but we will need a no nonsense game from Budaj.

  31. Paz says:

    I would have started Budaj tonight as well, only because of the back to back games and Price’s injury.

    Price can not play two games on consecutive nights.
    Budaj has played well against Boston.
    Even if we lose tonight we can make it back tomorrow night.

  32. montrealtilldeath says:

    MORE THAN JUST A HOCKEY TEAM

    I was just thinking about the difference between the Leafs and the Canadiens and came to the conclusion; its a spiritual thing. There is a spiritual energy surrounding this team. We all have a great love for this team and what it represents. There are many different historical images/events we all can point to that illuminate my point. Kovalev and Tretiak both knew this. Vanek said he felt this energy. The events surrounding the closing of the old Montreal Forum said it all. Molsons bought up all the TV commercial time as they knew the importance of the ceremony that was to take place; the thunderous 15 minute ovation for the Rocket; and lastly Madame Richard, her face awash in flood of tears, crying unashamedly at the love being showered on her husband. I wept also.
    THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN IN TORONTO.

  33. 24 Cups says:

    Everything you need to know about tonight’s game.

    http://thereuschblog.com/?p=30930

  34. 24 Cups says:

    The Carolina Hurricanes have signed defenceman Justin Faulk, who just turned 22 last week, to a six-year contract extension worth $29 million. He’ll make 6M a year by the end of the deal.

    • Luke says:

      That’s a heck of a Bridge.

      ;)

      • 24 Cups says:

        The $29-million dollar deal will pay Faulk $2.5 million in 2014-15, $3.5 million in 2015-16, $5.5 million in 2016-17 and 2017-18, and $6 million in 2018-19 and 2019-20, for an average annual salary-cap figure of $4.833 million.

        This is for a guy who is just finishing an entry level contract and presently has three goals and 24 points.

        When’s the next lockout?

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          It’s a good deal for the Canes and brings certainty.
          The youngster is part of the Top 2 D.
          The 6 years buys them 2 years of UFA status.

          He is already playing 1st Unit PP and PK and +23 minutes a game.
          In 3-6 years and with the predicted Cap increases, that may be a big bargain contract if his development continues

          • HabinBurlington says:

            It’s a good deal for the Canes if, IF he continues to develop into a top Dman. Tyler Myers looked as though the sky was the limit coming off his entry deal. I realize far more money, but end of day Faulk now has huge security, he needs to make sure his desire to develop etc… doesn’t wane.

            If players aren’t mature enough when they get their first real big contract, it can spell trouble.

        • B says:

          I thought it was “no more than 35 percent year to year and no year less than 50 percent of the highest year” variance for contracts under the new CBA?

          –Go Habs Go!–

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            You are right, but those may not be official figures or they may not take into consideration the bonus aspect of it.

        • 24 Cups says:

          Ronn – To be fair, all of those stats are because Carolina is a crappy team with not much on the D.

          I’m dead set against loaded bridge contracts as I believe a player should be paid for what he is doing, not what he might do. I realize that makes me a bit of a dinosaur.

          You win some (MaxPac), you lose some (Emelin).

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            Cups

            I guess different GMs look at things differently.
            It is certainly a very early contract for that, and yea, a gamble.

    • montreal ace says:

      Lot of money for a guy with 2 NHL seasons

  35. After seeing that the game tomorrow night is in Montreal I changed my mind, Budja should play tonight as the fans deserve to see Price play every game they can. I feel bad for Budja, he could get lit up pretty bad tonight, his play dropped ever since he played with Halak in Sochi.

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    • GrimJim says:

      I’ve always thought that the more talented goalie should play the second game of back-to-backs because the majority of the skaters would be tired and the #1 goalie would have a better chance of coping with some of the lapses. Just my opinion, though

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Not sure that is the deciding factor with the brain trust, but if you like, go with it! Budaj will be fine. I like the confidence you have in him. Actually ur old buddy jaro has been doing a great job getting washington to move ever so closer to that last wildcard spot. I like budashe tonight to silence his critics and help get the 2 big points. I’ll cheer no matter who’s in the crease, except for glen healy.

      Shaker out!

  36. habs-hampton says:

    “Eller will be a game-time decision, but he looked good in the morning skate.”

    Stu, I don’t care how “good” he looks in the morning skate, he is lost during most games. I would much prefer White play on the 4th line tonight. (I think we should rest Eller for the balance of the season, just to make sure he’s healthy enough to trade this summer).

  37. Hobie Hansen says:

    John Bartlett ‏@BartsBytes 1h

    #Habs AM Skate looks like this: 67-51-20. 17-48-21. 27-14-11. 32-81-22. 79-74. 6-76. 24-55. Budaj in goal. #Habson690

    That looks pretty good to me!

    People complaining that lineup isn’t tough enough to play the Bruins? Remember a couple years ago it was Travis Moen and that’s it?

    If that lineup stays the same, I’m happy with Moen, Dale Weise, Doug Murray and Jarred Tinordi.

    I hope the Bruins try and goon it up. When they do that they lose some focus and Montreal kills them with speed. I’d be slightly worried about Zdeno Chara going after Tinordi but that’s about it.

  38. habsfan0 says:

    Things I’m looking forward to this week:
    Habs vs Boston.
    Habs vs Buffalo.
    Rob Ford debating Olivia Chow.

  39. Mattyleg says:

    I’ve seen lots of posts like this for a little while:

    “How can you sit tinordi, who is our future for making a mistake when frankie boo is an over his prime vet who constantly makes mistakes?”

    …and I think something needs to be clarified.

    There were people moaning similarly that Gorges made mistakes and was never scratched, but PK, etc etc etc.

    The difference is this:

    Gorges (and Bouillon) make mistakes, that’s true. That’s what defensemen do, because that’s what forwards force them to do. However, a good defenceman will make a mistake while trying to make the right play.

    - You flub your clearance up the boards.
    - You bobble the puck behind the net trying to pass it around to your partner
    - You fail to keep the puck in on a pinch

    Coaches don’t mind those things, because at least you were trying to do the right thing, and you blotted your notebook. Schlitz happens.

    Coaches DO mind when you screw up when trying to do the wrong thing.

    - Blind backhand pass across the ice on your own blue-line
    - Failed clearance attempt into your own slot
    - Over-committing to a bodycheck against a player who yapped you, resulting in a 2-on-1

    Those things will get you scratched/benched, because it goes against what the coaching team is telling you to do.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • bwoar says:

      It’s fun on here today, eh?

      • Luke says:

        I’ve been (and still am) super busy today.
        What’s happening? Can I get a quick summary?

        • Mattyleg says:

          We’ve already lost; Therrien is a buffoon; Bouillon sucks; wow, r u seirus?

          More of the same, really, but just a lot of it, and from various sources, not just the predictable one or two.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Luke says:

            Well. The Game is on TSN nationally tonight I believe, so we could always dip into the “Anti-Habs bias” to freshen things up a bit.

            (OK, back to the salt mine for me).

          • frontenac1 says:

            You forgot,” Habs win tonight” amigo.

          • Mattyleg says:

            That’s true, Fronty, there is also a shining vein of optimism glinting through the deadrock too!

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • bwoar says:

          I was being sarcastic; it’s the usual “morning-of-the-game-day” vs. Boston and a guaranteed loss, thanks to the utter incompetence of the coach that has a terrible 5-on-5 team playing for 2nd in the East. You know, nothing much new.

          • GrosBill says:

            Yup. Was said before all 5 straight games the Habs beat them in a row until their recent loss to the B’s. Especially the ones Budaj also got the start in…

    • HabsFanInSaintJohn says:

      Matty, that was very well put! While all those make total sense, one still has to ask why not put the kid with a higher ceiling in for these hard nose games, especially with the playoffs coming up…Tiny has way more upside then frankie

      • Mattyleg says:

        Hard to say.
        Mind you, the coach put him in for the last 4 minutes of a tied game, and he messed up.
        He’ll get his chance in the coming games, I imagine, to redeem himself. It would be tough on him to try to make up for his mistake against the top team in the East. He’d only make more, and wreck his head!

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  40. Caesar says:

    I get Murray dressing against the Bs. I really think he needs to be in these games. But Frankie over Tinner? I don’t get it at all. I think the recent lapse in defence has a lot to do with Gorges missing plus Frankie playing. He is constantly out of place and chasing. He’s a great guy by all accounts but it’s time to put a suit on him for the remainder of the season.

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      Need to think about each game as it relates to the whole season, not the best possible lineup every night. You need defensive depth and you don’t get it by letting guys sit in he press box for 4 months. When someone gets injured in the playoffs we’ll be glad we have guys like Murray, Tinner and Boullion who’ve played a lot of games this year.

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    • murfdog says:

      I agree buddy, but with that they have to split up Emelin and marky, way to slow they get burned every time. All the winger has to do is go wide and hard and they get beat no matter what. Kessle did it a few times saturday. I really like Murray, he is a big guy out there and he can clear house when its needs to happend, Franky is chasing lots but thats probley because he is playing with PK who to me has had a rough time as of late. His plus minus has to be worst in NHL. I wouldnt care to only see PK out there for Power Plays only.

  41. CH Marshall says:

    “it’s just another sweater” – Julien
    Clap clap clap. Bravo Julien. Been saving that one for awhile? Hope we beat them

  42. Jimmy9Toes says:

    By reading a lot of comments on here, the Habs might as well just come back home and not even bother going to the rink tonight. Hey, like most posters, I am not a big fan of MT, but you have to give him credit for some of his strange decisions this year. I tend to agree with the goalie assignments for the next 2 games. I think the team will play better defensively in front of Peter and hopefully Carey won’t be tested against Buf tomorrow night. As for the defense pairings, I would like to see Tiny in for either Cube or Dream Weaver, but hey they are paid to coach and we are not, so the decision is up to them. When the boys beat the big bad Bruins tonight, I hope to see what a lot of posters ate with there crow in the morning.

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      I’ll never understand the MT hate. He’s not perfect and I occasionally shake my head at some things he does, but he knows the players better than we do and the team has been very good in his 1.5 years here. It’s not like he inherited a powerhouse, in fact he helped transform one of the worst teams in the NHL and turned them into one of the better teams in the east.

      ——————————————————————–
      Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!
      @Hstands4Hockey

      • bwoar says:

        It’s a bunch of really, really small-minded people. It’s hard to read but the site also makes it hard to ignore.

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          The small-minded ones are actually the idiots who accept Therrien´s crap because the record overall isn´t bad. Of course it´s not bad. Price is great, we have one of the best dman in this league and a lot of depth up front.

          The D overall is a complete mess though. Players like Murray, Bouillon and Weaver should be nowhere near this team (MB is to blame as well) and Emelin sucks on the right most of the time. This team could do so much better. If you can´t see that, I´m really sorry for you.

          • GrosBill says:

            Small minded idiot here.

            Look, I was one of many who was not thrilled that we were going to have MT 2.0. But, he did take over a last in the east team and basically hasn’t looked back. Hard to hate on a coach who has the record he does atm. I mean, is that all the Habs need to be what many call an “elite” team, another coach? I do not think so. So, I don’t see another coach making that big of a difference right now.

            I do expect to see MT go out with a bang at some point. Anyone would likely predict that. But, it won’t be this season, so…

            Glad you feel sorry for me!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Okay, I am really having a hard time figuring out who the small minded idiots are here now….. this is confusing.

            CHeers Bill!

      • The_Truth says:

        I agree, I think MT is doing a good job. The habs are in a nice spot and no other coach in the league could have put the Habs ahead of the Bruins or Pens this season.

        • Stimpy007 says:

          Have you watched 24CH? He is lacking in communication skills! His broken english is brutal and half the time the players are left with a “huh, what’d he say”?

          He does have a good record, i will give him that but just think we could have P Roy behind the bench.

      • JF says:

        There’s something very irrational about it. There was a heavy bias against him from the start because of what happened in his first stint behind the bench here, so that’s part of it. Then there’s his somewhat rough manner and appearance. And of course the decisions that people repeatedly question. All of this has built up in people’s minds to the point where results become more or less irrelevant. Even if the Habs win the Cup with Therrien, there’ll still be a lot of people saying he’s a terrible coach

  43. Scout says:

    No Prust, No Tinordi, No White, No Parros,, ====No toughness. Look forward to seeing a Hab get beaten up with his own equipment again tonight. Way to go Therrien, buffoon.

    • joeybarrie says:

      Didnt we just say the exact same thing about Toronto???

    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t care if that happens, as long as we win.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • frontenac1 says:

        C”mon Matty. I can’t believe you don’t care if our Lads get bitched slapped. Not that I think they will, if it is a close game. But you never know with CJ and his crew.

    • The_Truth says:

      How the Habs beat the Bruins in the past, was not by gooning it up. You can’t out muscle them. The habs won by playing with speed and making the Bs pay for their penalties.

      You need 4 lines that can play and this line up has that. They have some toughness in Murray, Boullion, Weisse and Moen, but the last thing you want is to get into a physical war. You want to make the Bruins play on their heels defending against speed and afraid to commit penalties.

      That’s how the Hawks beat them last year. Speed, forecheck and PP

      • Mattyleg says:

        The Bruins are looking at the Habs and are rueing their size and lack of mobility compared to our fast team.

        Play to your strengths, not to those of your opponents.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • ffenliv says:

      You said something very similar before the Leafs game, and nothing of the sort happened.

      So, will you be here admitting your error when it doesn’t happen again tonight?

      Or do you just post this trollop before every game, and ignore what really goes on?

    • murfdog says:

      Just cause those lads arent playing doesnt mean we dont have toughness, thats why we got guys like weise and murray will play, weaver. We dont go in to Bostun to try and beat them up, we can now hold our ground compared to before but I put my next pay check on habs tonight so lets go HABS!!!!

  44. CHasman says:

    All of a sudden I am not so excited about tonight’s game. Maybe Therrien is playing a hunch, and just maybe we could still win tonight, but the odds of that happening just got exponentially smaller. I’m not even going to talk about the other line up changes.
    I guess it’s better to focus on winning against the hapless Sabres, but I’d rather face the Bruins with our best players on the ice and not on the bench.

    • joeybarrie says:

      Budaj is 4-1 against the Bruins…. Why WOULDN’T you start him?

      • Hstands4Hockey says:

        Agreed. Price is usually lackluster against the Bs. Make sure you get 2 from Buffalo with Price and play the goalie with the better record against the B’s. Makes sense to me.

        ——————————————————————–
        Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!
        @Hstands4Hockey

  45. The Jackal says:

    jlgib holy moly taking coach trolling to a whole new level

  46. byebyegomez says:

    It’s my last day of my Maui vacation. What should I do? I think I will listen to the Montreal/Boston game while watching the whales from my balcony. Go Habs!

  47. jlgib1019 says:

    Well I am hoping to eat crow for what looks like a bunch of idiotic moves by MT. Bruins are coming out like a buzzsaw tonight. I would scratch Emelin as Lucic has a real hate for the guy and there isn’t much anyone can do about it if he goes after him. He punked him bad in MTL last time

    jr

  48. Luke says:

    A little Maple Leaf stuff to brighten you day:

    http://www.bergerbytes.ca/leafs-cant-or-wont-bail-out-carlyle/

    the Collapse of 2014 is a one-man act… solely the production of Carlyle for making among the most lamentable decisions in the post-expansion history of the Maple Leafs. Call that an exaggeration if you wish, but remind me of a similar ruling by any coach of a competitive Leafs team since 1967 that has so apparently destroyed an entire season.

  49. Adidess says:

    Murray with PK? I really don’t know hockey…

  50. Maritime Ronn says:

    I see a lot of folks have the game as a big “L” already.

    So what are the guys thinking?

    @JohnLuTSNMtl:
    #Habs Weise says he & some of his teammates were hoping Bruins would beat Phoenix on Saturday so Mtl would have a chance to end the streak.

  51. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Can’t help but feel that MT is thinking points in Boston are a bonus and saving Price to try and guarantee the points in Buffalo.

    Not a line of thinking that I’m a fan of.

  52. Mattyleg says:

    Good tweet by Arpon Basu:
    “But one thing about Michel Therrien, his seemingly crazy moves often appear to work out. So he has that going for him.”

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  53. HabsFanInSaintJohn says:

    So we are facing the leagues hottest team, Our heated rival….and we are playing Budaj in net with Murray, and Frankie boo on defense?….Bravo Mt…What a hockey genius lol

    • Psycho29 says:

      Yes I agree…these wins are genius!

      • jlgib1019 says:

        Nothing like being in 10th place overall. Way to strive for greatness

        jr

        • Mattyleg says:

          We’re fans, we have no control over ‘greatness’.
          One person’s ‘striving’ is another person’s ‘incessant complaining’.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • jlgib1019 says:

            Some people are happy with mediocrity. But that’s all the younger fans know with the Habs. Just like some people are happy with “just getting by” and it’s not fair for people to be doing great if they’re not

            jr

          • shiram says:

            Complain some more jlgib1019, I’m sure that will help the Habs!

        • D Mex says:

          Is that you, Alison ?

          ALWAYS Habs -
          D Mex

        • GrosBill says:

          I know. I cannot believe MB has not brought this team from last in the East two years ago to first in the East yet. I mean, are immediate results too much to ask? Clearly, this indicates he is not striving for greatness.

          What is he waiting for? Loser.

          Are we only permitted to cheer on the team when they are in first?

          LOUD NOISES!

      • HabsFanInSaintJohn says:

        Im sorry but MT’s decision making is ridiculous….How can you sit tinordi, who is our future for making a mistake when frankie boo is an over his prime vet who constantly makes mistakes?

  54. Sportfan says:

    I don’t know how I feel a bout this, I know Carey deserves a break and Budaj is due to play, but I’m not sure if Budaj is the right choice for tonight, I really hope i am wrong.

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!
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  55. Odie24 says:

    I get it. Budaj has a good record against them. But come on, you play Budaj against the Sabres tomorrow night. You play your Gold Medal winning blue chip tender against the team that’s won 12 in a row!!!! If we get them in the post season, are we starting Budaj?? This has bad move written all over it. This also has capitulation written all over it. Carey, get your arse in there and make a statement for the club that pays your salary.

  56. tanzereyes says:

    I left this message in the comment section on the CBC site and they deleted it (“Content disabled”)

    Public Safety Announcement – Leaf Fans are now jumping off the bandwagon at an alarming rate.

    Thankfully it is easy to spot these bandwagon jumpers, as per the example below.

    “The Montreal Canadiens are a great team and Price and Subban are studs !” posted by Glen Healy.

    If you encounter Glen Healy in real life, just tell him that you heard the Toronto Maple Leafs are holding an open try-out for goalies. He will then run home and begin to work out, hopefully he will stay out of sight until Rogers fires him !

    Please do not engage in a conversation about hockey with Glen Healy. Mr. Healy can fool you into thinking he understands something about hockey, until you realize he only talks about how great the Toronto Maple Leafs are.

  57. jlgib1019 says:

    Wow,is it true that Weaver and Boullion are 3rd pair,and Tinordi sitting again ?

    jr

    • The_Truth says:

      Not that surprising and not necessarily a bad move.

      • jlgib1019 says:

        If Therrien played the whole Bulldog roster tonight you would still defend him. That pair makes the Budaj start seem tame. Small,old and no speed.

        jr

        • D Mex says:

          If Therrien played Team Canada tonight, you would still roast him. What’s your friggin’ point ?

          ALWAYS Habs -
          D Mex

          • jlgib1019 says:

            Every one of your posts is attacking posters who “roast MT. I think he’s a mediocre at best coach. I’m not there constantly bashing him. I just don’t like him. I liked Carbo and Julien and not JM ,so it’s not blindly coach bashing

            jr

          • D Mex says:

            So : you’re good at chuckin’ sh!t, just not so good at receiving it.

            I’ll repeat the question : What’s your friggin’ point ?

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

    • aroma says:

      Seems like another incident of the MT’s usual tactic of benching a promising young player for multiple games in the wake of a single (although admittedly egregious) error. Not the way to bring along an important prospect, especially one like Tinordi who already appears to be more effective than two or three of the defencemen currently getting ice time. When is the last time the Habs had a coach that had the knack for effectively bringing along a young player?

  58. DipsyDoodler says:

    Dipsy’s Consumer Reports.

    The Scam: Apple picking.
    What is it: You drive to an orchard and for a fee they let you pic your own apples.
    Why it’s a scam: For the same price they will pick the apples and deliver them to your neighbourhood store.
    Why people fall for it: Return to the Garden of Eden; commune with Nature.

    The Scam: Premium vodka
    What is it: Ethanol and water (by law).
    Why it’s a scam: It’s ethanol and water… In a fancy bottle with a fancy marketing campaign.
    Why people fall for it: Alcohol impairs judgement. Plus people are fools.

    The Scam: The Toronto Maple Leafs
    What is it: A professional hockey team in Toronto, Ontario.
    Why it’s a scam: Highest ticket prices in hockey; annual hype parade; consistent lack of returns.
    Why people fall for it: Beats me.

    Stay tuned for next instalment where I address homeopathy, the Ottawa Senators, and the Quebec separatist movement.

    —–
    Moving. Forward.

  59. 24 Cups says:

    Budaj in net. Looks like someone was right this morning (Ronn or DD?)

    Can’t help but feel as a fan that the Habs are throwing in the towel even before the game starts. Having said that, the team needs the four points against Buffalo and Detroit.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Ronn.

      I was right the other 364 days.

      —–
      Moving. Forward.

    • jlgib1019 says:

      Habs havent matched up well vs. Det. I’d feel better about beating Bost and Buff for the 4 pts

      jr

      • 24 Cups says:

        The points against Detroit are far more important than the ones against Boston. Two wins against Detroit in the next few weeks pretty well assures a 3rd place finish.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Cups

      It’s not throwing in the towel.
      There are no bonus points in beating the Bruins.

      It’s all about the Big Picture
      8 points get the Habs to 93 and a lock.

      Management looks at the schedule – they think about Carey and his overall health/needed rest – then they plot it out.

      Playing Budaj will also make sure the guys don’t rest on their big Saturday win.
      They know they’ll have to bring their A game

      • jlgib1019 says:

        Is pairing Boullion and Weaver vs B’s throwing in the towel then,lol

        jr

      • 24 Cups says:

        I get all of that but you still like to put your best out against their best.

        As for the resting of Price, starting Tuesday/Thursday isn’t much different than Saturday/Monday.

        IF Murray is going to play with Subban I’d make it quite simple. Tell Murray to not skate past his own blueline, just stay in his own end and let Subban do the rest.

  60. Alex says:

    I just read an article about Price looking out for Tinordi, after his turnover which led Columbus scoring and winning the game. Absolutely great to see from Price, really looking out for the rookie. Here’s the paragraph from the article:

    “A really special moment after the game I want to share with you. Tinordi was taking his equipment off and there was a lull after Gionta finished. Price saw the media mass was going to converge on Tinordi about the late-game error. Price says “I’m ready. I’m ready.” He still had his equipment on but he wanted to save his mate from the interview. It worked. We all converged on Price. I was just happy to watch it play out. Some moments are more than a clip so I let Tinordi leave and he did. Price watched him go and then answered the large scrum. The only player in the room, then to Tinordi’s great credit he returned to face tough questions about his gaffe. After Tinordi was finished I returned to Carey, still wrapping up with Ron Reusch. I said to Price, “I saw what you did there, trying to save Jarred.” He simply acknowledged I was right, that he protected his mate but like Carey he said nothing more, never looking for praise. I followed with, “If only the rest of the world supported each other like players and teammates in a locker room stand by each other.” Carey responded, “It would be one hell of an amazing world.” That’s your goalie everyone. That’s a man’s man. That’s a character person. That’s someone to look at and admire and that has nothing to do with stopping a puck.”
    http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/call-of-the-wilde-price-unbelievably-good-habs-still-lose-1.1739193#ixzz2wtmP3sNH

    • Le Jadester says:

      Cool !

      I really hope and pray he wins a cup with us somewhere in his career.

      The kid is solid and he’s gone through the hell part here in Montreal…..now its time for him to do the heavan part.

      I think with his performance in Sochi and a Gold medal under his belt…..this is just the beginning.

      I was watching the NHL revealed show a couple weeks back just after the Olympics and right at the end it showed Price with his old man sharing the moment of winning the Gold…..I couldn’t stop crying when I saw that? It was nuts ? So humble.

      Habs, OLE !

    • montrealtilldeath says:

      Its called “class”. Something I remember Jean Beliveau doing. Price is definitely a character guy which championship teams need.

  61. Maritime Ronn says:

    @JohnLuTSNMtl: #Habs lines vs #Bruins:

    Pacioretty – Desharnais – Vanek
    Galchenyuk – Plekanec – Gallagher
    Bourque – Brière – Gionta
    Moen – Eller – Weise

  62. 24 Cups says:

    Boston’s projected line-up.

    Milan Lucic – David Krejci – Jarome Iginla
    Brad Marchand – Patrice Bergeron – Reilly Smith
    Carl Soderberg – Chris Kelly – Loui Eriksson
    Shawn Thornton – Gregory Campbell – Daniel Paille

    Zdeno Chara – Dougie Hamilton
    Matt Bartkowski – Andrej Meszaros
    Torey Krug – Kevan Miller

    Tuukka Rask
    Chad Johnson

  63. Timo says:

    I guess Franky Boo is a shoe in for tonight? After all he had such a stellar game vs leafs and didn’t make any mistakes that led directly to the goal (asks Tinordi)

    • CJ says:

      I’ve heard the expression bringing a knife to a gun fight. Would this be like brinning a pillow to a gun fight? I don’t think we can make it much easier for our opponent from a lack of speed, lack of poise in our defensive end, lack of offense and lack of physicality point of view.

      We do however have experience and character. The later I can confirm myself, the former I”m relying on Therien.

      Well, let’s see how it turns out.

  64. ElMcFoldo says:

    I think starting Budaj is the right move, but playing Murray with Subban is bordering lunacy. Douglas Murray should play no more than 12 minutes per game. We were pinned deep almost every time he was on the ice Saturday! It’s good to hear Georges is back skating and holding a stick with that hand. When he is back, Murray should take a permanent seat in the press box.

    As for Eller, let him sit as a precaution and let White get in there for a bit more toughness. A game of watching from above could be beneficial for Lars. I’d also like to see Bournival get in there for the Buffalo game. He will provide some much needed spark in a back to back scenario.

  65. CJ says:

    Murray with PK? Well, it does help ensure that PK is on the way to having played with every defencemen on the team. I guess Weaver is next. Joking aside, I don’t mind the protection element, however I would think Tinordi is the better fit.

    Staying positive….

    Budaj has lots to prove. I thought he was average, at best, during our last match up against the Bruins. I hope he finds the chemistry he had during our meeting on Jan. 30th. If so, we have a chance tonight. Like I said earlier, the Bruins, following their road trip, winners of 12 – should be ripe for the picking tonight. Given the separation and likelihood of a second round match-up, I wouldn’t put it past Boston to try and start something. Miller, Lucic, Thorton, Chara, Marchand – the pieces are in place. The boys better be ready and have their heads on a swivel.

    Go Habs!

  66. DipsyDoodler says:

    I pointed this out a while ago but I will again because it’s so surprising. 5 of Boston’s top ten scorers weren’t with the team at the start of last season.

    —–
    Moving. Forward.

  67. Mattyleg says:

    I love the fact that we keep starting our backup against the Booins.
    They must HATE that.

    “Respet us!!!!” they roar.

    “Here’s our backup,” we reply.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  68. habstrinifan says:

    Don’t know if Stu Cowan is saying Eller in White out? Bournival out?

    I would like to see Bournival in.

  69. mdp2011 says:

    Hey Stu, Mike Weaver says he’s playing tonight, Tinordi looks to be out.

    • CJ says:

      You are absolutely correct. I had to verify further, as it seemed so unreal, but yo have it spot on. So, we are going with Weaver, Frankie and Murray, of which Murray is going to be expected to play top line minutes?

      Still trying to stay positive, but to say I am not a fan of playing Frankie, Weaver and Murray over Tinordi and Beaulieu is quite honestly the understatement of the year. I would have no issue rotating one of the three, but this is beyond tempting fate IMO.

      • Alex says:

        I have been trying to find this but can’t. I will take your word, I must say this is awful. Tinordi has been great for us and the mistake he made against Columbus was exactly that, a mistake. I am sure he has learned and we could use him in the lineup against Bruins. Weaver, Murray and Boullion are all #6 defenseman in my mind, having all three in and Tinordi scratched is not right.

        • CJ says:

          Hi Alex. I caught information supporting this, from various outlets on twitter.

          You are correct, it doesn’t seem to make sense, but I am beginning to believe that it’s me who is wrong and not the coaching staff. Maybe Frankie is better than Nate and Tinordi. Maybe all three (Weaver, Frankie and Murray) are better than the younger options and give us a better chance to win. I certainly don’t think so, but we keep going back to it so surely it must be the case.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            At this time of the year, one word.
            TRUST

          • Alex says:

            We will find out tonight I suppose, I am glad to see Galchenyuk get a role in the top six. I hope he makes the most of it and stays there.

  70. Alex says:

    I am happy to see Tinordi back in the lineup, I felt for the kid. I’m sure he will continue to play a solid and physical game which is exactly what we need from him tonight. I hate to see Murray with Subban though, he just simply cannot keep up with him and is more suited for the bottom pair. I thought Tinordi played well when with PK, but I guess Gorges cannot return soon enough.

    I also like to see Galchenyuk and Gallagher with Plekanec, they both are in the top six like they should be. I think Gionta’s time with Plekanec was past its’ expiration date and Galchneyuk needs to be in the top six to develop.

    Looking forward to a good hard fought game tonight! Go Habs Go!

    • Didn’t Gill spend some time with PK? I thought they did well together if I remember correctly. Should be the same sort of balance–rocket vs. glacier. ;)

      Defense wins championships

      “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

  71. bwoar says:

    Wow the lineup blender continues, but good to see Eller is healthy. Also nice to see Tinordi back.

    Murray riding shotgun with PK to protect from any shenanigans?

    EDIT: And Bournival recalled… I don’t see the 3rd line changing from last game. Probably insurance in case Eller really can’t play.

  72. I get that they want Boods to get back some confidence and get a few wins, so do you think starting him in the tougher of the back to back is sending the team the wrong message?

    Does it mean Carey’s injury is still a factor?

    Defense wins championships

    “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

    • bwoar says:

      If he hadn’t had previous success vs. the Bruins I’d wodner the same thing, but he’s usually very solid against them. No sweat here.

      • Good point. I’m trying not to sweat, but it’s spring and the temp is rising. ;)

        Defense wins championships

        “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

  73. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On says:

    Go Boods!

  74. BobbySmithWasClutch says:

    Glen Murray the former Bruin? ;)

    • UnkleGary says:

      I was named after Bobby Smith! My father said that whoever scored the winning goal in the 86 playoffs would be my middle name. My father thought it was Gaston Gingras (he had a couple beers) until my grand mother actually pointed out it was Bobby Smith. Pretty close to being an anglophone ‘Gaston’.

      CH-eers!

  75. bwoar says:

    Stay cool? I say BLOW YOUR TOP!!!!!

  76. Strom Man says:

    I agree.

  77. bwoar says:

    That is because you see his job as developing players. But he’s not the coach of the Bulldogs, SM.

  78. bwoar says:

    You should change your name to Yes Man!

  79. HabinBurlington says:

    Ha!

  80. HabinBurlington says:

    Guessing you weren’t old enough to recall seeing Harry Sinden when he coached the Bruins.

    Sinden as I recall was not afraid in the least to yell, kick, scream at his players. No less when he became a GM.

  81. bwoar says:

    It’s not enough to cherry pick a couple of soundbites, SM. There’s a 100 years of hockey history to draw from and most of it is still relevant.

    You can ruin all the young players you want – if you win. You can trade the future for a Stanley Cup today, and no one would care. (see Dallas, 1999) The NHL is about today. The future is a mystery but a Cup in your hands now is real. So the only thing a head coach can and should care about is W-L and the rest is someone else’s job.

  82. Maritime Ronn says:

    Torts won a Cup….
    Julien won a Cup with Seguin glued to the bench.
    Keenan?

  83. HabinBurlington says:

    No one I don’t think doubts Sinden was an excellent coach. And your quote i am sure is accurate, but don’t think for a second that all of his interactions with players were calmly speaking engagements. I suspect half of his articulating words aren’t allowed to be typed here.

    And I also don’t see how those quotes disprove Bwoars point that an NHL Head Coach is paid to win games in the now. It is the GM and the rest of the organizations issue to provide players, develop them on the farm team per se. ONce they are with the big club, the head coach picks his players based solely on trying to win games.

  84. Mattyleg says:

    It’s true that players these days are a different breed (especially since they are millionaires…), but I don’t think that it’s the coach’s job to bring up young players. There is a huge support system for players nowadays, and the coach is only one part of it.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  85. HabinBurlington says:

    Didn’t you just reference a coach from the late 60′s and early 70′s as the way to coach, but now we can’t have a coach be like the Habs coach in the mid to late 70′s?

    I am really confused now.

  86. HabinBurlington says:

    Case closed, gotcha thanks. ;-) Look forward to you sorting everything out as well, greatly appreciated.

  87. bwoar says:

    I’m even better on stage, believe it or not.

    I’m not concerned that we disagree, SM. It’s all in good fun.

    EDIT: Just so it’s clearer, a quote from last year:

    “It was pretty good, being a young guy and having him to learn the game from,” Crosby said Saturday before the Penguins faced the Eastern Conference-leading Canadiens. “He was a big influence.”

    “He taught us young guys a lot of important details in the game. You want to learn as much as you can as fast as you can and he really helped that learning curve.”

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/03/02/penguins-sidney-crosby-not-surprised-canadiens-coach-michel-therrien-is-back-on-top/

  88. bwoar says:

    Free tickets always go down well. But being out in MB I’d probably give ‘em away to someone on this site. Probably not you. But you never know.

  89. Mattyleg says:

    Hey Stormy,
    Did you have a look at that article?
    Bwoar seems to be right in what he said.
    You should at least acknowledge that.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  90. GrimJim says:

    Keenan got so mad at his team once that he made them practice naked.

  91. HabinBurlington says:

    You are a patient man bwoar.

  92. ffenliv says:

    I think you’re probably right about the Flyers and Pens. I think it much more closely matches the Habs/Bs rivalry than do the Sharks/Kings.

    There’s a lot of recent bad blood in the State of Pennsylvania, much like there is between Boston and Montreal, which translates into some pretty entertaining, if at times goony, hockey.

    I feel like the LA/San Jose rivalry is based more on two very, very talented, well-coached teams going at it at the highest level. A good game to watch for sure, but lacking a bit in the other areas.

  93. bwoar says:

    Cheers Matty. You’re doing good work out here today.

    @ Burly : “Patience” – 3 young kids at home. A couple years ago I’d have been content to cuss it up and let the mods sort it out. It’ll happen again I’m sure.

  94. Mattyleg says:

    I don’t think that your cynical and anti-Therrien-biased reading is any more ‘real’ than a literal one.

    Crosby could have been much more vague in his praise if he didn’t like MT.

    Lighten your tone, man, you’re firing howitzers when all we’re doing is talking. It’s kind of annoying!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  95. bwoar says:

    I think they’re ready to hand the job to Fasth & will find a veteran to back him up. But they have worse problems than goaltending.


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