Habs will be going for sweep in Game 4 Tuesday

Before the NHL playoffs started, the people at EA Sports did a playoff simulation with the NHL 14 video game and had the Canadiens sweeping the Tampa Bay Lightning in their Eastern Conference quarter-final series.

That could now happen in reality as the Canadiens take a 3-0 series lead into Game 4 Tuesday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

The video-game simulation had the Canadiens losing in five games to the Boston Bruins in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

The Canadiens’ Brendan Gallagher offered a word of caution when he was asked whether the Canadiens were in control of the series after Sunday night’s 3-2 win in Game 3.

“Everyone knows the fourth game is the hardest to win,” he said.

The Canadiens practised at noon Monday in Brossard without defencemen Andrei Markov and Alexei Emelin, who both took therapy days. The forward lines remained the same at practice as they have been for the first three games.

“We understand that we haven’t done anything yet,” defenceman Josh Gorges told reporters in Brossard after practice. “You need to win four games to win a series and we all know the fourth win is always the hardest. We can’t get ahead of ourselves by any means because we still haven’t accomplished anything. Our focus has to be like it has been the first three games on playing the right way, playing a complete game and doing all the little things well. At the end of the day, we’ll look back on how the game went and move on from there.”

The Lightning held an optional practice at noon Monday at the Bell Centre.

“(If) we play with the passion and determination we played with last night, I truly believe there’s really not much more wrong that can go against us,” Lightning coach Jon Cooper told reporters after practice. “I think at some point karma is going to come around. You just need it for one night. All of a sudden now—you’ve just got to win one. And then you win that one and everybody is back on a plane. Who knows what happens after that.

“The one thing I really appreciate about our team is nobody is hanging their head,” he added. “Nobody is feeling sorry for themselves.”

On the status of No. 1 goalie Ben Bishop, who has missed the first three games with an elbow injury, Cooper said: “He won’t be ready for Game 4. I can’t sit here and say if he’d be ready for the rest of the series. Clearly we’d have to extend the series for any hope of that. Every day he is getting closer and closer, but no Game 4.”

Lightning sniper Steven Stamkos said he felt “pretty good” after practice Monday and expects to play in Game 4. Stamkos missed the last 3:51 of the second period of Game 3 after taking an inadvertent knee to the head from Canadiens defenceman Alexei Emelin. Stamkos went to the locker room, but returned for the third period.

“It was just a weird play,” Stamkos said after the game. “I didn’t feel quite right. Obviously, I was good enough to come back in. We’ll see how it goes (Monday).”

The Canadiens called up 10 players from the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs on Sunday: goaltenders Devan Dubnyk and Dustin Tokarski; forwards Sven Andrighetto, Mike Blunden, Gabriel Dumont, Louis Leblanc and Christian Thomas; and defencemen Nathan Beaulieu, Davis Drewiske and Greg Pateryn.  They will practise this week, starting Tuesday, in Brossard with the Bulldogs’ coaching staff.

The Bulldogs failed to make the AHL playoffs, finishing last in the North Division with a 33-35-8 record.

Here’s how the Habs lines looked at practice:


(Photo by Dario Ayala/The Gazette)

(Video from Habs practice by Allen McInnis/The Gazette)

(Locker-room videos by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell)



Game 4 preview, NHL.com

Canadiens ‘riding that wave,’ Eller says, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Vanek soaks up city’s playoff vibe, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Stamkos, Lightning recharge for Game 4 by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Eller, Bourque step up, NHL.com

Business as usual for Habs after Game 3, Canadiens.com

Post-practice interviews (video), Canadiens.com

Lightning practice notebook, tampabaylightning.com

Stamkos expected to play in Game 4, NHL.com

Habs put home-ice stranglehold on Lightning, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

A night to remember at Bell Centre, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Subban, Bourque escape from coach’s doghouse, by Jack Todd

Subban atones for early penalty, by Pat Hickey

Electric atmosphere at Bell Centre, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Habs sweep Lightning in playoff simulation, Stu on Sports blog

Habs fans photo gallery, montrealgazette.com

Comforts of home, Canadiens.com

Canadiens edge Lightning, take 3-0 series lead, NHL.com

Subban sparks Canadiens with highlight-reel assist, NHL.com

Bourque lights the lamp 11 seconds in (video), NHL.com

Lightning fall behind 3-0, Tampa Bay Times

Bad call ruins Lightning effort, Tampa Bay Times

Stamkos returns after head hit, Tampa Bay Times

Canadiens recall 10 from Bulldogs, hamiltonbulldogs.com



  1. Habfan10912 says:

    Idiot child beater, shoe thrower, crap GM, Mike Milbury says Cooke’s been a pretty good guy. The Bettman shills at their best.


    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Hi Jim

      It’s funny.
      When you look at the NFL they have articulate, smart winners involved in broadcasting such as Troy Aikman, Chris Collinsworth, Jon Gruden, and Phil Simms to go along with Jim Nantz, Al Michaels, Joe Buck to name just a few.
      The NHL? PJ Stork (no typo) Healy, Milbury….

      • Captain aHab says:

        The NFL has knuckleheads as well but they are more diluted.

        Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  2. Captain aHab says:

    If we off the Bolts I want Boston next so we know immediately how we can do against a big team. It would also help MB further evaluate his team. Detroit is similar to TB but more experienced so may not be as much learning in facing them.

    Let’s say Vanek leaves this summer and there’s no FA worth signing to replace him, considering our glut of C right now, would you try Galchenyuk with DD and Pacioretty? I would hope the kid would bulk up some more before next year and learn to use his weight a little more. Not to cream opponents but to separate them from the puck à la Vanek.

    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  3. Marc10 says:

    Well said.

  4. Maritime Ronn says:

    Les Canadiens de Montreal: The Epitome of Class.

    When Ginette Reno had finished singing the Canadian National Anthem for Game 3 at the Bell Centre, several of the very young non Quebec born Habs players turned to Daniel Briere/ Bouillon wondering who that gracious lady was that had the ability to unleash even more passion from the home crowd than what was expected.

    Because of the overwhelming, positive reaction of both the crowd and players, CH organization put a call into Mme Reno and asked her if she would be willing to sing again for Game 4 this evening.
    According to Mme Reno, the CH mentioned it was by request of…Rene Bourque – a unilingual anglophone of Metis heritage from western Canada.

    Does it get any better than that?

    Apparently, Mme Reno had suffered a heart attack last January and the Bell Centre singing was her first public appearance.

    While the rest of the NHL is hooliganing it up, once again the 1st Class Canadiens de Montreal unites different elements in an attempt to preserve some dignity and heritage of the game and its roots – a concept only too foreign for the legal suits in New York running the Vince McMahon style show today called the NHL.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning kind sir. I love that last paragraph. It’s much easier for me to root for an organization like the Habs that exhibit class and dignity that you so elegantly describe above.

      From the on ice behaviors of the players, wakey wakey being the latest in disgraceful and undefendable behavior, to the actions of a few fans, some of whom we’ve seen here with their rude obnoxious crap, the leagues quest for money and profit have encouraged this WWE stuff.

      It’s getting harder and harder to overlook this stuff and focus on what we all love about the game.

      • Cal says:

        It’s the best reason of all for the Habs to go all the way this year just playing hockey. To win it all and not by being malicious pricks. Not attempting to injure every opponent that has skill. Not running every player against the boards from behind at full speed. Not by hacking and slashing their way through every game.
        Hockey is about speed, skill and toughness. It shouldn’t be about who wants to literally kill their opponents. The NHL continues on with its “Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil” approach. They are blind buffoons.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Dipsy referred to the prevailing trend as Bobby Clarke hockey, and he’s right. Kind of sad we’ve regressed to the Broad Street Bully era.

    • Cal says:

      Vas-y Ginette! Great story, Ronn.

  5. Marc10 says:

    Great playoffs so far. The West is one dirty alley fight. San Jose looks like the real deal, but they’ll need to survive. Easier said than done, but they do have Raffi Torres, a slimy scumbag who plays huge at this time of year.

    Big games coming up. Montreal might be relaxing for a while if they manage to close out the Bolts. Seeing as our team makes a specialty out of making life difficult for itself (only to ultimately triumph), I’m curious to see if they can break form and close out Cooper and co in style on home ice.

    No predictions from me. Another 60 minute effort and we’re down to 12. Go Habs Go!

  6. jon514 says:

    Did you know the Barrie hit is the 15th major incident Matt Cooke has attacked a better player… All of which have been controvertial?

    Lets play “How many can you name?”

    Seriously this guy burns ants with a magnifying glass… Get him out of hockey.

    • CH Marshall says:

      I hope Roy carries enough authority to argue for a lengthy suspension for that trash bag

    • Marc10 says:

      The optics on this one don’t do Cooke any favours. The knee is out early… I would give him 20 for his previous misdeeds. Maybe 25. The League will probably give him 3 to 5.

      Who skates like that? Oh yeah… Matt Cooke.

  7. CH Marshall says:

    I don’t know if Cooper is trying to be funny with that waterborne mic, but personally I think it’s condescending to the media that are actually trying to do their job. The more I hear him open his mouth and see him doing this shot, the more I think he’s an unlikeable Dallas Eakins

    • Marc10 says:

      He’s sure playing himself into a media talking head role when he eventually joins the list of the fired. He’s quite well spoken and polished for a newbie.

      I don’t know that his shtick runs out of steam soon. The media craves sound bites and he’s more than willing to provide them. If he doesn’t win within three years though with the talent Tampa is building… he’ll be goners just like Boucher.

  8. Timo says:

    PK laughs way too much in that picture… I hope Michael Therrien will address that before the game.


  9. Timo says:

    Home ice seems to mean a lot more in the west than east.

  10. Rad says:

    Steve Ott steamrollered Duncan Keith with a monster hit in the Chicago game. No penalty on the play. Payback is a bitch.

  11. chanchilla says:

    Robidas breaks his leg in almost the same place as before. They say it’s a little bit higher.

    **Leg fractured above the steel rod they put in after the first fracture.

  12. somtawyer says:

    re: Moen and Chucky…….Chucky needs his baptism vs. Da Broons but not without Timordi

  13. EricInStL says:

    Getzlaf getting held by the linesman, gets punched in the head, probably why Roussel got the extra 2.

  14. DipsyDoodler says:

    So is it now a legitimate strategy to injure the opposition? Bobby Clarke hockey.

    Moving. Forward.

  15. EricInStL says:

    Isn’t Crawford the most awkward goalie in the playoffs ?

  16. mfDx says:

    Let’s assume the Habs get a week off, and Moen and Galcheynuk are both ready to play the next series.

    A: vs Detroit
    B: vs Boston

    Who sits?

    Sent from my CHphone

  17. 24AW says:

    Minnesota working on a come back, could get interesting.

  18. Psycho29 says:

    Retweeted by Elliotte Friedman

    Adrian Dater‏ @adater ·4 mins
    Tyson Barrie will miss 4-6 weeks with MCL injury

  19. 24AW says:

    4th game should be a dandy, everything seems to be working for the Habs, not so much for Tampa but one win could change things. Hope the Habs can finish it tomorrow night while their still on a roll.

  20. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    After that St. Louis-Blackhawks game and the Lucic “fine”, it has become a “free-for-all”. Thankfully the Habs can get out of this 1st round relatively unscathed.

  21. HabinBurlington says:

    Anyone got a stream for hawks game, u.s. Feed required

  22. DipsyDoodler says:

    With the number of injuries in the West, the Eastern finalist might have an advantage.

    Moving. Forward.

  23. DipsyDoodler says:

    Blackhawks kep launching themselves into the boards every time a Blue shoves them. Two successive boarding calls so far.

    Moving. Forward.

  24. Psycho29 says:

    Trivia Question:
    Of the teams currently in the playoffs; which team does NOT have a previous Stanley Cup winner on their roster?

  25. govenah says:

    Did the altitude in Denver have an effect on Minni? They seem to be breathing better tonight.

    Lock and Spring -that’s the the ticket!

  26. DipsyDoodler says:

    Matt Cooke needs to be suspended for life.


    The notion that he’s reformed assumes that the skate chop on Karlsson was an accident.

    Moving. Forward.

  27. D Mex says:

    Back from a couple of days out of town – we stayed with the in-laws and hockey is nowhere near the top of their TV menu. Long story short, the boys and I only got to watch the 3rd period last night, but it was super satisfying.

    Appreciation to whoever is responsible for posting the ALN link to the pre-game show – it blew me away and made me even prouder of this franchise, if that was possible …

    I just love the Habs ! ♡ 😀 ♡

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  28. habsfaninboston says:

    Pit. with 3 goals on 3 shots.

  29. Mavid says:

    I had no idea who the anthem singer is..but I have to say I don’t think I have ever seen anyone put more into singing an anthem than her..She was amazing..and then the light show truly spectacular..what a treat it must have been to see it live

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  30. Danno says:

    Columbus isn’t fazed by anything


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  31. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Hockey analysts or so called ones must fully understand the NHL rule book before they’re able to analyze, condemn or criticize calls. Kerry Frazier mentioned one important fact & I quote:”Players, coaches, former players & fans don’t fully understand the rule application or the standards by which referees are instructed to enforce rule 69″.
    I’m still pissed at the reaction of some hockey people that think referee Charron committed a huge mistake disallowing Tampa’s goal. Not a fan of Frazier but I was appreciative of the way he broke down rule 69 & explained it. Frazier thinks the NHL needs to come out & support referee Charron for making the correct & gutsy call.

  32. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    You know, I like the Red Wings. And I think that means I could learn to hate them really fast. I grew up with one side of my family supporting Detroit and the other Montreal, and they spoke of Boston as minor league also rans. That was a long time ago, even a long time before Montreal’s last Cup, but it is there. If the Red Wings were to do the unlikely and take Boston out (I don’t think they will) I would welcome a new original six team to hate.
    The Habs wouldn’t be playing the Rangers or Maple Leafs. It would be the Red Wings, a quality organization, and an ancient enemy come in from the cold.

    • Danno says:

      I wouldn’t count the Wings out just yet. Stay tuned.


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    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      At least your family was split in half supporting Wings & Habs. My family is so screwed up, half supports Wings & the other half supports the Laffs. Yikes.

    • dr. schmutzdeker says:

      I like them as well. If I was just focussing on that series (without considering that the winner would be playing the Habs) I would be rooting for the Wings (and that would be true vs anyone but the Habs). I think in many ways the Bruins would be a tougher opponent (to play and to beat) but (often) the Wings somehow “get it done” or do exceed expectations, so they may be a potential dark horse.

  33. Haberoooo13 says:

    I’d say Neiderreiter’s slash was worse than his hit…but Cooke’s knee hit was brutal…it didn’t seem like a last second reaction type of knee

    Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

    • Mattyleg says:

      It’s a tough one, as I said.
      The Av looked like he tried to deke the check, and Cooke kept going straight. But it is Matt Cooke…

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  34. Mattyleg says:

    Avs will be lucky to have enough healthy players after this game to ice a team for the next one.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  35. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Re: Kieth. Sure, lots of stuff gets said on the ice, but I am pretty sure when someone is unconscious you are supposed to be respectful at that current time. Idc how mad you are at the other team, you never ever make fun out of a serious situation, that is where the fun ends.

    What a pr!#k!

    • Haberoooo13 says:

      Yep,,,the post injury taunt is Bruinsish

      Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

    • CJ says:

      I’ve heard a number of former and current NHL players say that the only thing off limits is children and wives. And, the wives thing is subjective.

      When I played junior, we were in Smith Falls playing the Bears and my defence partner hit a guy, driving him right into the boards. He stood over top of him and chirped him. Of course, the guy didn’t get up, and we quickly began to understand the gravity of the situation as the ambulance arrived and the guy got carted off on a stretcher. I wouldn’t dare repeat what he said, but it makes “wakey, wakey” sound like church.

      Tyson Nash and Steve Avery unplugged would likely turn fringe fans off of hockey.

      • Haberoooo13 says:

        I understand that hockey players aren’t on the ice to be choir boys, but you can still be tough, play hard, nail someone and then be classy and keep your mouth shut.

        Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

        • frontenac1 says:

          Fer Sure amigo.In a perfect world.

        • CJ says:

          I agree with you. You can also score goals and not celebrate just like Bobby Orr. Fact is things are said. I don’t like what Keith said either. I thought it was not only rude, but void of the class and integrity that you might expect from today’s refined athlete. Unfortunately, this is the game.

          Not sure if anyone has read the comments regarding the NFL trying to ban the N word from the field. Many players have said that it would be impossible and want the NFL to back off.

      • UKRAINIANhab says:

        Junior – Teenagers
        NHL – Adults

        It was a classless play… I can’t put it any different. I also would not dare to repeat what I think of making fun of someone who is unconscious.

        • CJ says:

          Again, I didn’t like hearing it either. But, we can’t have our cake and eat it to. We (fans) want unprecedented access, yet when we get it we are appalled at what we hear (Boudreau swearing on HBO24/7).

          It’s no wonder hockey players are so dull. They say anything and they are labelled. IMO, Lucic’s spear was the far bigger transgression, yet Keith is getting the hotter spotlight. Lucic, twice suspended and twice fined is a hard nosed player, while Keith is a prick.

          Again, just so there isn’t any confusion, I don’t like what Keith said.

          • UKRAINIANhab says:

            Great point re: Lucic. I knew thats not what you thought, your a good chap. Trust me, Lucic is quite the prick himself, I could write something on him but I digress.

          • frontenac1 says:

            Lucic is nothing more than a Spot picking Punk. He will get his due. Maybe next preseason when some kid from the Farm will want to make a name for himself.

          • CJ says:

            Front, for the first time in a very long time I’m confident in saying we now have guys in our system who will be serving justice. It might be another 2-3 years, but it’s coming. Chara will likely be gone, but Lucic better keep his head up.

            I might not agree 100% with every move Bergevin has made, but take a look at the teams he played on. He knows the value of toughness and character. The days of Ottawa and Boston beating us down are over. We are now very close to being their equal. We are not quite there yet with the Bruins, but are very close. Going forward, we will be the aggressor. I can’t wait to hear the whining and complaining. The Charles river will overflow.

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        I think you need to give a couple of seconds of a grace period, simply because you dont always know immediately if the other player is seriously hurt.

  36. Stuck_in_To. says:

    Another inane poll question which ignores that a fan like me wants the Bruins out in the first round so they experience as much pain and angst as possible. The Bruins may have a great goalie and play a physical game which presents certain problems for the Habs, but the Wings have a cohesiveness and tenacity that creates other dilemmas. So pain to the Bruins wins out!

    Duncan Keith has already shown he is a class act with his mouth so no one should be surprised. And the fact that he lacks the cojones to stand up and account for himself … well, character over skill for my heroes and hockey is all about heroes.

    TSN has taken nearly 24 hours to add the adjective “accidental” when describing the knee to the head of Stamkos. Stay objective and stay classy TSN. Never mind the Emelin is not that good a skater.

    • Mattyleg says:

      How is the question inane?
      You’ve just explained what you’d like, thanks to the poll.
      I think it would be hard to phrase a question to cover each fan’s individual desires.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        Okay, inane is too broad spectrum Matty. I apologize.

        Would vapid be okay?

        Some love the polarized question, some detest it. I’m in the latter camp and usually wonder why the poll question can’t encompass a broader set of choices that is more reflective of a considered opinion. So I think it is inane but am willing to stand down to keep the peace.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Heh heh.
          Not at all!
          Rage on! 🙂

          I’ve got het up about those questions before too…
          I do see what you’re saying; there is more than one reason to answer that question. I voted Boston so that we could crush their hopes and dreams, but I would have voted Red Wings if the question had been ‘who do you think would be an easier opponent?’

          My response may have been a bit dry, so sorry about that.
          I was eating chicken and my keyboarding mobility was compromised!

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Stuck_in_To. says:

            No worries. I read this site for interesting views and you got me thinking about an individual’s experience with a word and how we all have slight differing connotations for all words in spite of dictionary definitions … English as a living language and all that.

  37. Marc10 says:

    With regards to Duncan Keith being a jerk. Yep, he is… and because every dog has his day, he’ll be on the receiving end of Raffi Torres or some other jerk soon enough. Maybe not this year though as the Blackhawks threw away the series last game through a lack of discipline.

    Now if we could only find a dog big enough to deal with Chara and Lucy the Nutcracker…

  38. Danno says:

    Blue Jackets are looking like a force to be reckoned with


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  39. Butterface says:

    Yet another douche…. Niederreiter…

    What a couple of douches….Niederreiter and Cooke

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

    • Chrisadiens says:

      Didn’t Cammy have a skirmish with Niederreiter?

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

      • Butterface says:


        And look Niederreiter just took two Avs out in 2 minutes… concussion ?? and broken hand ??

        If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

        • Butterface says:

          Okay one guy back… no concussion.

          If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

          • Mattyleg says:

            It was a fair check, guy just fell badly.
            Slash = bad slash.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Butterface says:

            You didn’t think he swept the feet ?

            Maybe he didn’t.

            If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

          • Mattyleg says:

            I’ll have to see it again.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Butterface says:

            No….. just listened to the guys on TSN.. they are split on the slew foot.

            Upon my further review, it was purposeful.

            Niederreiter is a douche.

            If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

  40. Mattyleg says:

    Evening everyone.
    Matt Cooke back to his old tricks it seems… or does it?
    Appears to have stuck out his leg for a knee-on-knee contact, but it’s not entirely clear if it was intentional or not.
    Looks like he missed his check, but it’s Matt Cooke, so it’s hard to say…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. Mavid says:

    what is ROC?

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • JUST ME says:

      rest of Canada

    • Captain aHab says:

      Rest of canada

      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Regurgitate Or Choke.

      • frontenac1 says:

        That too Jim. Ice went off the lake today, how are the Worms doing this year? The Bass are going to hungry this year.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          No worms this year Front. Rented a Cabin in Cape Vincent this summer. Chris snd I are thinking of taking the ferry to Kingston to see you for lunch.

          • Chrisadiens says:

            Dad will eat lunch, we’ll drink Front.

            Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

          • CJ says:

            Cape Vincent NY?

            My father’s family has history in that part of the world. We used to hold our family reunion there.

          • frontenac1 says:

            Nice! C”mon up to God’s Country. Let me know. Ian has my email address.

          • Mattyleg says:

            You’re a married man now, Chris.
            You still allowed to drink…?

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • frontenac1 says:

            Seriously Jim and Chris. Get a hold of Ian and we will get together. Saludos!

          • Habfan10912 says:

            @cj. Yes. Where the river meets the lake. We’ve fished Black Lake NY near Ogdensburgh the last several years but we’re trying a different spot this year.

          • Chrisadiens says:

            @Matty I can do whatever I want. I wear the pants in the relationship. Just don’t tell her I said that.

            @CJ Yes in NY.We have a lot of family from the Watertown area.

            @Front Yes, we’ll be in contact. We are definitely going to have to meet up.

            Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            @front. We will definitely get together. Late July. Ian has my email as well.

          • CJ says:

            Small world. I was born in Kingston and have been on the Wolfe Island ferry many times. So, where you fished on black river, I have family in that area. Lisbon, NY. The Winters family are cousins. They own the garage in town. Jim, you’re a baseball fan. My grandfather and Brian McCann’s grandfather are first cousins. He’s my father’s cousin, twice removed. He has an aunt that still lives in Ogdensburg. His grandfather (Gerald Brown) went to Ogdensburg free academy (high school). If you’re ever at the ball game and want to get Brian’s attention, yell out Gerald Brown.

        • Mavid says:

          Oh yea I forgot about the worm farm..I thought we were all going to get rich along with you..what happened

          Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  42. Stevie.Ray says:

    Yesterday during the Boston game, Krug was exiting the Boston zone with the puck. He head manned the puck to Lucic up near the blue line. Lucic entered the zone, hooked to the left, and left a drop pass to Iginla. Iginla picked up the puck, took a stride or two and passed the puck back to Lucic who scored.

    The NHL gave an assist to Krug despite the last three Bruins to touch the puck were Lucic, Iginla, and Lucic.

    I polled some friends and there was a fifty-fifty split on whether he deserved an assist. Interestingly, friends who played hockey said he shouldn’t get the point, while friends who never put on a pair of skates went the other way.

    What do you guys think? Is it the last three players that touch the puck who get points, or is it the three players involved in the play (despite Krug barely being art of the play)

    • Phil C says:

      78.3 Crediting Assists – When a player scores a goal, an “assist” shall be credited to the player or players taking part in the play immediately preceding the goal, but no more than two assists can be given on any goal. Each “assist” shall count one point in the player’s record. Only one point can be credited to any one player on a goal.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      The goal should be called back and all three players suspended.

      Moving. Forward.

    • CJ says:

      In Ottawa that’s called a Karlsson point. He gets more of those every year than anyone in the league. I have a friend who went so far as creating a video highlight that showed five examples in one season by which Karlsson was awarded an assist, despite not touching the puck. He posted the video to Youtube, but it was pulled. There was one in Winnipeg that I remember. It was the first game of the year during his Norris trophy campaign. The Sens scored and Karlsson was neither in the play, or touched the puck, yet he got the second assist.

      • Mavid says:

        well now that is very interesting..isn’t it..I have never noticed I just assumed they got it right all the time..I mean how hard can it be with every second reviewed, slowed down and reviewed again..very interesting indeed..

        Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

        • CJ says:

          I wish I had the video Mavid, it was excellent. I remember the first clip being the point against the Jets during the first game of the season. Maybe someone knows how to go back and find the first goal? I know NHL.com has a history, but I don’t know if you can go back two years.

    • monmick says:

      Same thing in the NYR-PHI game. Zuccarello-Pouliot-Brassard-Pouliot. Zuccarello gets an assist. I looked it up because I have him in my pool…

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

  43. habs001 says:

    The Bruins are not an easy matchup for the Habs…It will not be easy to comeback in games if trailing…The games Habs have won vs Boston this year still had lots of domination by the Bruins in the D zone…While the Wings i believe have better talent on forward they can be shut down easier than Boston..Scoring on the Wings should be easier also

  44. laRacaille says:

    A lot of people, nearly all, keep saving face with the old “let’s be honest, no one would have though blah blah blah”. Actually, many of us were positive about this team. WOuld I have bet the house on being up 3-0? No, but I am not in shock, nor am I in shock at Bourque’s play.
    I was pretty adamant on this site about how absurd it was that people were calling for Ryan White to dress instead. I called Bourque to score in game 1, I was off, but the point remains… he’s a good offensive player, and his supposed laziness has been exaggerated all year. He has been snake-bitten and has failed to execute, often misfiring or waiting too long. Only a handful of times has he been lazy. The fact that he rarely is on for any atrocious d-zone breaks down somewhat speaks to this point.
    In any case, I was a fan of Bourque since he butchered on in the Heritage Classic, I was thrilled when we traded for him, and I am more happy about that trade than ever. I am excited to see him doing so well, but no, I am not shocked at this either. Barring some collapse on his part, there should be NO BUY OUT.
    Eller on the other hand, while he has been less dominant than Bourque, is more surprising. I was starting to think he had no place on this team, but if he keeps it up, he will make his case.
    THis is not an “i told you so” gloat, just pointing out that some of use (and there were any others) who weren’t sitting around waiting for our guys to get rolled over, and hating on them in the mean time.

    • JohnInTruro says:

      I have no problem saying Bourque could very well be good for us in the playoffs. He was arguably our best player in last year’s playoffs. But Bourque was absolutely lazy in the regular season. His skating and his hitting in the playoffs are proof of the difference.

      • JohnInTruro says:

        Sorry, I meant to say I have no problem saying I alluded to Bourque being good for us in the playoffs before it started, based on last year’s performance. His performance shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. But it’s early!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      It appears that this is your first post on this site (member since today) which would cause one to be skeptical of your reported “I told you so’s.”

      Welcome to HIO!

      • JohnInTruro says:

        Great now I feel stupid…

        • Habfan10912 says:

          No need to feel that John. There were plenty of posters today reminding people like me (hangs head in shame) who had given up on Bourque. His point and your are still valid. CHeers bud.

          • JohnInTruro says:

            Heyyy good thanks Jim I feel dignified now. But in my mind all year I couldn’t stand how badly Bourque frustrated all of us. We know he has that speed, determination, and skill set with his size in there he just CHOOSES not to use it. CJ and I have mentioned a few times in the last few weeks that we credit this to his, as Front would say, “conky” last year that Orr gave him. He has played like a kitten, but he’s interested enough in the playoffs to ramp it up.

    • JUST ME says:

      It is typical of Habs fans not to be openly optimistic. Even on the TV broadcast on rds it bugs me. I like Pierre Houde he is classy ,speaks good french but always finds lots of qualities to the opponents like they are a real threath on 4 against 5 ,they have a young and promisssing d-squad, they can strike at any time…HEY ! it`s 3 games to none ! Could we like enjoy and gloat on how good WE are ?

  45. RoofDaddy says:

    So…I lost my horse and cart
    At least I’ve still got the shirt on my back 😀

    What’s with Pudding (Jeff O’Neil) whining about the non-goal?
    “Worst call in the history of sport!”

    Why doesn’t ANYONE in the mainstream media mention the quick whistle on Borks goal?


    Anyways, Tampa in 7! 😉

    Tomorrow’s score: 2-1 TBay

  46. Loop_Garoo says:

    Dunboyne – I posted this further down in response to your reply, but its so far down it may be hard to find, here it is again to make it easier.

    There is no doubt that it gets loose in the playoffs as far as the calls go, and I like a good conspiracy theory, even if I often end up disagreeing with it. I just don’t see any evidence for a real conspiracy, and the potential for complete disaster is there for the NHL, if anything were to leak. If there were a conspiracy, they would tend to favor teams like Montreal that draw fans and viewers no matter what, and not work against Montreal.

    You do raise a good point though about food manufacturers etc. I guess in the end, I think it would be to difficult to influence enough games on a large enough scale, that you would end up with the teams you chose moving on. It would be so overwhelmingly obvious that everyone would know, and the owners on the other side would be livid.

  47. Storman says:

    So what did you all think of the wakey wakey deal.

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      All I know is Chicago better freakin Wakey Wakey or there out…

    • JohnInTruro says:

      Disrespectful for sure, but it is what it is. This is hockey, and moreso it’s playoff hockey. The emotions are ridiculously high. Anyone who has the played the game and competed knows what it’s like and the hate you have for another. Compounded with being down in the series these things are going to happen. I doubt this was the worst thing said during that game.
      All that being said, it doesn’t make it right, but we would be foolish to think this isn’t a common occurrence. If the Blues were so blown away by it we would hear them talking about it, and we don’t.

      • Storman says:

        Exactly, probably a tiny bit of low blow,, but i know this is absolutely nothing compared to what is said at ice level..and meant to stay at ice level…

        • JohnInTruro says:

          Elliott Friedman just said on CBC what I just wrote, not rocket science. Same thing some fans believe when players say “I don’t want to hurt anyone out there”, or “I don’t hit to hurt”. Sure you don’t, sure you don’t…You have to!

      • CJ says:

        I agree completely. It’s not nice, but I’ve heard much, much worse. People who either haven’t played or have not had the luxury of sitting behind the bench wouldn’t understand just what’s said on the ice.

        Everything is magnified now with social media and the value of high definition broadcasting and replay.

        Again, not saying it’s a nice thing to say, but it’s what you get when you have microphones all over.

    • Captain aHab says:

      I guess that if it isn’t that bad as some pundits say, then why didn’t Keith fess up to it? Because Keith knows he was an ass.

      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

      • JohnInTruro says:

        Because it’s irrelevant. I think he is pissed that people are even talking about it, and have broken into that “sacred” area of what happens on the ice. At this point I doubt he is proud of what he said in the heat of the moment, but I don’t suspect he truly cares.

  48. JUST ME says:

    Excellent poll question to wich i do not know what to answer. Of course i know that a Habs-Bruins best of 7 is a guaranteed classic but mostly i want them to lose as fast and as bad as possible. It also would be a change of scenery to have a playoff serie against the Red Wings.
    I feel that against both teams we have a good chance to win. It does not feel as a «well you know anything can happen in the playoffs» kind of year.

  49. Danno says:

    Upset in the works between the Jackets and Pens


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    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I’m certainly not upset

    • CJ says:

      The series could be 2-0 Columbus. Not unlike last season against the Isles. If Nabokov would have been even average the Isles win that series.

      Fleury looks so shaky. The game tonight could easily be 3 or 4 nothing. IMO, a Penguins loss would not be a surprise. The winner of the Flyers Rangers series should be the favorites to move to the conference final.

      • CJ says:

        I don’t think it should be 2-1 Tampa. In a separate post I hinted that the series at 3-0 flatters Montreal. Although I think we have been the better team, the first game could have gone either way. Brewer hit the post with 2 minutes to go. Game two was all Montreal after they weathered the first ten minutes. Game three could have gone either way. Our inability to capitalize on the four minute PP could have come back to haunt us.

        As it is we are up 3-0 and need to close this out. I believe we will, if not tomorrow (and I’m going to the game so I hope we do), than in 5 or 6.

  50. Habsman93 says:

    Just got home to Burlington from yesterday’s game in Montreal what an atmosphere and awesome experience for myself and son for our 1st playoff game ever at the Bell Center, thank you HABS for making it all that more enjoyable !!!!!!

  51. Fansincebirth says:

    LA was up 2-0 last night….not going to do a happy dance yet

  52. Lafleurguy says:

    If there was a poll, I would vote the series ends 4-2, with 4-1 the next most likely. Sorry for the negativity.

    • Fansincebirth says:

      Not negative at all. TB has to go balls to the wall in every game now so it’s very likely that we will/may lose one or two. I called Habs in 6 but I will suffer with a sweep 🙂

    • CJ says:

      I don’t think that’s being negative. I see it the same way. Truth be told, the series could just as easily be 2-1 Tampa right now, or 2-1 Montreal. We’ve gotten the bounces which has landed us at 3-0. I don’t know that we are fantastically better than Tampa. At the end of the day, this new playoff format drives competition, resulting in 3-4 matchup in the first round.

  53. Fansincebirth says:

    Penguins not looking very mighty

  54. Prop says:

    Fleury in playoff form… CBJ up 2-0


  55. Prop says:

    CBJ up 1-0


  56. Danno says:

    Wounded animal anthem at Nationwide Arena


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  57. Strummer says:

    Anyone recall the last time the Habs swept a playoff round?

    “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

  58. habsfan0 says:

    Seeing that the Habs are up 3-0,would tomorrow night be a good time to give Budaj the start to keep him sharp?
    I guess not.

  59. Mr. Biter says:

    Stu had better be looking over his shoulder as the “Singing Fat Lady” may not be amused and pull a Lucic on him if she tracks him down.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  60. JUST ME says:

    I understand that Montreal`s media are the masters in the art of taking a story and making a big fuss about it and will not weigh in my opinion on the matter but could we get over it ? It just would not and will not change anything in the balance , the Habs being a much more complete team with depth and skills that are way over what Tampa can offer.

    That being said, i cannot remember the Habs having so little pressure when involved into a playoff round. I think that everything has been said and that all the players being so usefull in their own ways, the medias do not have anything to teach (cough cough) or complain about.

    Git `r done ! Hopefully we can focus on the task on hand and finish it tomorrow so we can rest and prepare.Do not know if it`s such a good thing to have that much time off in such an important period but i would not want to take any risk and it would not change the outcome of that round were we to lose one game or even two so let`s end this tomorrow guys ! Go Habs Go !

  61. JohnBellyful says:

    Playoffs have really got me excited.
    Just three sweeps to Stanley Cup final!

  62. Still drinking water (way too many beers) after last night’s trashing of the White and Blue, same colors same results! 😆

    Only one thing the Habs did wrong last night, they didn’t get enough pucks to the net. Get back the 40 range and the white and blue will be grooming traps after Tuesday night.


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  63. Ozmodiar says:

    About the goals:

    goal #1: I feel kinda bad for anyone who was at the concession stands and missed the intro + 1st minute of action. I feel bad for them b/c they’re idiots. 😉

    goal #2: What a play! The only way I could be more impressed with that play is if Palat had performed the ass-over-tea kettle maneuver on purpose.

    goal #3: When Plekanec celebrates, you know it’s a big goal. Loved the awkward celly!! Gally was not expecting the jump into his arms!

    • Haberoooo13 says:

      #1–Been there, those concessions stands can be brutal
      .#2- I wonder if it slightly threw off any TB guys watching that awesome 2.5 gainer with a pirouette.
      #3-Probably the most emotion I’ve seen pleks…PS year after year one of the most underrated guys in the league
      Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

  64. Ozmodiar says:

    A few points about the Habs getting all “the breaks”.

    First, here’s how some “analysts” are breaking down the disallowed TB goal:
    1) quote rule book verbatim
    2) show replay where the call is made to the letter of the rule book
    3) point out subjective reasons (not in rule book) as to why the goal should have been disallowed.

    If you’re going to quote the rule book, assess the call based on that, then criticize the rule if you don’t like it.

    Second, why isn’t anyone in the mainstream media discussing the quick whistle on what would have been Bourque’s second goal, or that terribly weak call on Briere?

    Finally, I kinda like the fact that the Habs haters are crying about these calls. Just makes them more pissed off as our team carries on their playoff run, while their teams are in off-season mode. Eff ’em. Let ’em cry.

    • JohnInTruro says:

      Thank you on Bourque’s disallowed goal, I mentioned this a few times at work today.

    • LizardKing12 says:

      Yeah in fact the Bourque disallowed goal is almost worst. The rule states that the play will only be blown dead when the player has possession of the puck. At no point did any Lightning player possess the puck. Going by the rules the Bourque goal was actually a goal and the Bolts goal wasn’t…

  65. Un Canadien errant says:


    I kind of had to cheer for Duncan Keith when he was on Team Canada, but seeing play against the Canucks for years now, I have to conclude that he’s a giant preck. Not just a guy who you hate if he’s on the other team, but an honest to goodness jerk. My post from last year, linked below, lowlights a few of his actions, like being very rude to a female reporter when she asked him a perfectly legitimate question after a game.


    The ‘wakey, wakey’ incident is just the latest proof of that. Players like Brian Gionta and Brendan Gallagher and Peter Budaj seem to be great people on and off the ice, but I wouldn’t want my sister or daughter to date Duncan Keith, or have him as my neighbour, that’s for sure.

    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige

  66. Marc10 says:

    Beyond the whining about blown calls (and for my two cents the Lightning were given a ton of non calls in the second period and were gifted the Briere and Subban penalites…), the Tampa Bay defence are slow and not the most mobile and they get caught pinching fairly often. Without Bishop to cover up their blemishes they are exposed and with Stamkos being neutralised and their new kids on the block getting a steady diet of Yemmy wall papering, there isn’t much in the way of push back.

    At full strength, the Lightning are a dangerous opponent, but right now they are a badly wounded animal limping their way out of the playoffs. They’ll be put down humanely soon enough. Preferably Tuesday night.

  67. Un Canadien errant says:

    Just saw a reference earlier in the thread to the Michel Pagliaro montage from the wizards at “Hockey Night in Canada”, found it on YouTube. I’m going to miss these when the abysmal Sportsnet team takes over.



    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige


  68. Un Canadien errant says:

    I think we shouldn’t assume that Alex Galchenyuk will be ‘ready’ for round 2. An MCL takes a while to rehab, you get to a point where there’s no pain on movement, full range of motion, but there are still twinges and transient instability early on, even after you’re cleared to return to full duties. And the only cure for that is time and more rehab. So Alex could be back, but he could also be tentative and not playing as confidently or effectively as we’d want, and might be a target for Bruin assaults.

    So the longer he rests and rehabs and stays away from the likes of lowbridge Marchand and the Nutcracker, I’m fine with that.

    • FlyAngler says:

      the Nutcracker- that’s a good one, very apropos! I think that Missing Link captures a bit more of who he is however.

      “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • Hobie says:

      There should be no rush to get Galchenyuk back in the lineup. He was scuffling and looked to be showing the effects of his first full NHL season. You could possibly take Bournival out and put in Galchenyuk but I think Bournival is a stronger two way player at the moment.

      Another summer of pumping iron and training hard will do Galchenyuk some good. He will be great shortly down the road.

  69. Danno says:

    Has Ginette Reno become the Kate Smith of the Habs?

    Confirmed: She’s going to sing O Canada at the Bell Centre on Tuesday…


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  70. Chris says:

    Honestly, I’m happy that the Habs are getting some breaks from the referees (and there have been a number of them). There is a fine line between conspiracy theories and outright paranoia, and many Habs fans were getting dangerously close to being conspiracy theorists…

    If nothing else, the last 10 games or so should demonstrate to Habs fans that winning teams often seem like they are getting the breaks. That is the perk of being the winning team…the losing team and their fans are looking for explanations for why they lost.

    For years, the rest of the NHL (somewhat justifiably) complained about the favoritism showed to the Montreal Canadiens by the league and its referees. Habs fans have been complaining for the past 10-15 years the other way. Now, we’re mostly quiet…which means that the Habs are back to winning! 🙂

    • Hobie says:

      Couldn’t agree more sir. Even before the playoffs started this year, even in the middle of the Ottawa mess last year, I’ve told people that the officiating in the NHL is like taking a trip to your local casino.

      Sometimes you get a call go your way and sometimes you don’t. You can go for years getting the majority of calls going against you and then all of a sudden it’s 50/50. You can then get lucky and get a bunch of calls in crucial situations go your way instead of against you.

      It’s a giant game of Russian Roulette. There is no conspiracy. I never say stupid things like the refs are in a teams back pocket. I simply say that the Habs were victims of a bogus call at a horrible time.

      The officiating in the NHL is brutal.

    • FlyAngler says:

      Good points Chris. I still do not want to see your namesake Mr. Lee tomorrow night.

      “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • chesterfiled says:

      Yep! It is called ‘fractalnoia’ where the person connects everything to everything like internet hyperlinks. Seeing the world holographically instead of say conversing from one group or person to another… something like this. Anyways, conspiracy theories if taken seriously are for wankers. Refing, what it is. This team is fun to watch

    • FlyAngler says:

      Not to belabor the point Chris, but I am not sure about how “justifiable” complaints were about favoritism shown towards the Canadiens. The biggest gripe down in these parts (Boston area) was about the infamous too many men on the ice call when Cherry and the Bruins had 7 players on the ice for 30-45 seconds. That was not an example of favoritism, it was an example of the way that some people will bitch and moan about any call that goes the Habs way even if it was correct and legitimate. If the officials had ignored that flagrant violation of the rule, it would have been a travesty and a disgrace. Don Cherry and the Bruins had only themselves to blame- not the Referees and not favoritism.

      “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

  71. FlyAngler says:

    Piso, Brophy, Weekes all whining about the disallowed goal on HNIC radio this afternoon. Brophy suggesting that a “new” play began as soon as Carey Price began to move to his right in the crease. And this guy is the color man for the Toronto Maple Leafs? What an effing Moron! Isn’t it amazing how after one questionable call (which many knowledgeable hockey people have suggested was correct per the rule book) so many of the pundits are adamant that there needs to be a rule change or video review simply because they can’t stand the fact that the call went in the Habs favor. If that play had happened in Toronto and Reimer or Bernier was the goaltender in question, Francis Charron would have already been assured membership in the Order of Canada rest assured of that.

    “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • dr. schmutzdeker says:

      Reminds me of McLean, Kypreos, and Morrison on Sportsnut (ont). They had to have shown the replay of the no-goal @ least 6 or 7 times along with the Stamkos offside call an the knee-in-head multiple times as well. I have always tried to cut these turkey’s some slack but, it was all talk about what the poor Lightning were doing wrong (as if they’re the only Canadian home team) and not what Montreal (not the Habs or Canadiens) were doing right. Reminds me of brothers in law and buddies…all idiot (only about hockey) loaf and nyuck fans.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      The reason they want the rule changed is because it’s a questionable rule, not because it went against the habs. We have heard this debate before, will hear it again, and pretty much everyone agrees that if you go by the rule book it is correct. The issue is many people think the rulebook should say something different.

  72. Un Canadien errant says:

    I’m just curious about a technicality, but does anyone know how the call-up Bulldogs are getting paid since their season ended in Hamilton? The regular Canadiens don’t get a regular paycheque anymore, they’re going to receive a playoff bonus that gets larger the deeper they get. What about the ‘Black Aces’? Do they get a share of this bonus, or another form of compensation?

    Are they eligible to play for the team? I think they are, since they’re Bulldogs, under contract, but if someone can clear that up, or link to the rules that govern this, it would be appreciated.

    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige


    • ooder says:

      Also whats the point of calling them up?

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        How you feeling this morning ooder? Full of chocolate?


        I think the reasoning is that these guys are the future of the team, and it will be good for them to get the additional practices in, and soak in the atmosphere and learn what the playoffs are all about. In HR terms, they’re getting a ‘realistic job preview’.

        I think they’re also available to replace injured players, more readily than if they’d all flown back home and gotten on with their summer, but I think there’s a technicality there that I’m missing, something needs to happen before they’re eligible, which is why I’m asking the question. I did a quick Google and couldn’t find the info on this specifically (payment of wages, emergency callup).

    • Haberoooo13 says:

      My totally uniformed guess is that they get an NHL perdiem like the guys playing and that’s it…and won’t get to share on any playoff bonus

      Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

    • Phil C says:

      Anyone on their reserve list is eligible to play if required. I don’t know how the pay works.


      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Thanks Phil. I think I was getting confused with the ’emergency callup’ rules that kick in after the trade deadline, but I know those disappear when the AHL team is eliminated. I thought there was still a hurdle or technicality that had to be met, but evidently there isn’t.

  73. chesterfiled says:

    Not worried about Max. New ‘season’ for him. First round he can’t seem to get it in, second round get in an ugly one and no more monkey. Third round he seems to pop ’em in, fourth round more the same like the opposition likes it when he sends his pucks in the net, they mesmerized by all the fun play he is having with DD and Vanek.
    Boston next round. I do not like Detroit style. CH will beat Detroit, just prefer to beat Boston. What is with the useless 3-0 stat of ’93. The only stat that year was beating the Nordiques with 3 of 5 in first round

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