Habs trim training camp roster to 38 players (Video)


Canadiens’ first-round draft pick Louis Leblanc was among 14 players cut from the team’s training camp Monday night after the Habs’ 6-3 loss to the Boston Bruins.

The Canadiens roster now stands at 38 players, including five who are injured.

The players cut also includes: Sven Andrighetto, Robert Mayer, Matt Lashoff, Dalton Thrower, Erik Nyström, Morgan Ellis, Joonas Nattinen, Martin Reway, Darren Dietz, Charles Hudon, Stephen MacAulay and goaltender Zachary Fucale.

Ten players will return to the Hamilton Bulldogs while Fucale, Hudon and Reway head back to their respective junior teams. The team also plans to invite Lashoff to  the Bulldogs training camp.

Fucale described the camp as a big learning experience and beneficial for his development.

“I saw the level of play is very high, very fast. So for me it’s very important to work on every aspect of my game,” he said.

“There are so many screens during the game. A lot of people are trying to obstruct the view.  And guys are stronger, they’re smarter, their shots are just harder,” Fucale said.

“Every little aspect of the game is better in the NHL and you’ve got to adjust and get better.”

A big story line heading into the game was the Subban brothers squaring off for the first time. P.K. Subban’s younger brother Malcolm, the Bruins’ first-round draft pick in 2012, replaced Chad Johnson in net part way through the second period.

“It was a pretty cool experience,” P.K. Subban said after the game

Their father, grandfather and next door neighbour were at the Bell Centre for the game.  “I don’t think I got a shot on (Malcolm),” Subban said. In fact, he had one shot from the point that his brother easily stopped.

A short-lived “P.K., P.K.” chant started high up in the Bell Centre after the announcement of the goalie changes. (Robert Mayer also replaced Canadiens’ goaltender Carey Price.)

Subban called it a good experience for his brother.

“If you can play in Montreal, you can pretty much play anywhere in terms of the intensity in this building and the pressure. I thought he handled himself well for his first game.”

 You can hear what Canadiens’ forward Max Pacioretty had to say after the game here:



  1. Small_Town_Boy says:

    MT would be wise to play the rest of the pre season with his regular line ups!

    Dat’s wha me tinks

  2. habstrinifan says:

    What’s with all the post that HABS are a ‘classy’ organization and wont stand the BS from LeBlanc’s girlfriend. If this ‘classy’ organization cant understand and forgive some anguish venting from a disappointed and ‘rejected’ player/loved one without recriminations then I don’t see that as classy.

    • Phil C says:

      I agree, She was just fired up with her natural competitiveness kicking in. Anyone who has competed would forgive that as long as it does not become a pattern of behaviour.

      Even in little league soccer, we have rule that if you are upset at the coach after a game, that you wait 24 hours before talking to him. It’s amazing how much more perspective you have 24 hours later.

      With that level of feistiness, maybe we should see if she can play right wing.

    • JUST ME says:

      Sorry but read with both eyes or close your usual negative vision. Read the comments honestly and you will not find any of the so called classy organization comments that you obviously need to spit on.

      Comments are harsh but respectful . It is a free country and Leblanc`s girfriend had the right to talk. Problem is she is a public personality. If YOU have a problem with the situation don`t blame others…

      • Timo says:

        Got that, Trins?

      • habstrinifan says:

        Three comments which responded along the lines I descibed:

        100HABS September 17, 2013 at 3:42 pm
        Wozniak is going to get Leblanc traded. Habs can’t deal with this kind of knee-jerk reaction

        Newf_Habster September 17, 2013 at 3:24 pm
        Since his lady complained about her bf, it is time for Habs to trade him. It is not worthy to have him on the team because she has created a unhealthy and unnecessary distraction on the team on behalf of him.

        Kooch7800 September 17, 2013 at 1:54 pm
        Not a smart move on her part. She is 26 years old you think she would know better. As fans know this organization doesn’t put up with BS at all and players will be buried in the minors or traded.

        How’s my vision now? Better than your understanding of my post I would venture.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Trin, the voice of reason. Couldn’t agree more.

  3. Kooch7800 says:

    So it looks like Thrower will have a try out with the dogs. I thought he was going back to Jr?

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • B says:

      He may still end up in the WHL (which isn’t a bad thing for him). If he does manage to stick around with the Dogs, then the Giants won’t be thrilled about having traded for him. He will be competing for a spot in Hamilton against at least Beaulieu, Pateryn, Nygren, Ellis, Dietz, and Lashoff (not sure about Stejskal). I am assuming Tinordi stays up with the Habs for at least a little while. I don’t see Thrower getting a lot of TOI if he sticks in Hamilton which may not be the best thing for him at this point. An opportunity to dominate in the WHL on the other hand may be just what the doctor ordered.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  4. Bripro says:

    Afternoon all!
    Hope everyone is well.
    I see the comments on Louis Leblanc.
    I have to agree with most in finding that he was one of the better players, for sure.
    Too bad they didn’t send Moen down instead. His days are numbered, or at least, should be, IMO.

  5. Sportfan says:

    Landsberg is such a moron, they talk about how Kessel last night should be kessel all the time and he should fight and take all those penalties. I don’t like any of the Leafs, but this is hockey not the effing UFC not everyone needs to fight jeez.

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  6. shiram says:

    I’d just like to point out that Douglas (Don’t call me Doug) Murray looked pretty bad last night.
    Hopefully it’s just a fluke, he needs time to adjust, new system and all that blah…

  7. Kooch7800 says:

    Still awkward when I see that headline:

    When he heard the news, our captain was crying in my arms’, Therrien says

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  8. Dr.Rex says:

    Like him or not Torts certainly hit it on the nose connecting Twitter and Narcisism.

    LIke how prideful and lost do you have to be to think that random comments you type down are worthy of any attention. Pride and ignorance are two intertwining qualities. Are these the same people that stare at themselves in glass windows?

  9. Wait, so the 377th ranked women’s singles tennis player tweets about a 22-year-old AHL centreman, and TSN thinks that’s news?

    “Until we get an apology we’re not going to win a game. We vow not to win until we get an apology from Bettman.” -Sabre Dixon Ward

  10. Sportfan says:

    We are all surprised about LL and its caused a lot of debate, but I’m surprised no one is talking about Nick Tarnasky and how he is cut and his GF hasn’t said anything D:

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  11. J_P says:

    Torts is definitely on to something with his whole hating twitter angle. Celebrities and athletes seem to put their foot in their mouth far more often then say something insightful.

    I mean, does Wozniak not realize that she literally had to go out in the public and stand up for her boyfriend? As admirable as im sure it seemed to her at the time, its pretty pathetic that she felt the need to go fight his battles (hence why the tweets were removed). Im sure Louis wasn’t so happy about it.

    If Louis works his butt off this year, and puts up numbers in the minors, he will EARN his shot. THat’s all he has to do. Very simple.

  12. Mr. Biter says:

    Just to stir the pot. From Rangers blog site. “Kristo” willing to go into dirty areas and almost scored his first goal in 1st game. I’m going to keep my on him during the season, just to see what happens to him.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  13. JF says:

    There’s a reason pre-season games used not to be shown on TV. In a sense they’re not really games at all, but practices held in a game setting. This is especially true of the first two, when more than half the lineup consists of juniors or players who are just taking the next step. Lines are a bit impromptu, play is rough and scratchy, there is little chemistry or rhythm. The coaching staff is concerned more with evaluating players and trying combinations than with winning the game.

    As for the veterans, it is very hard for them to really work on the details of their play when there are so many rookies in camp; it is equally hard for the newcomers to see where they fit in and to create chemistry with the others. Training camp, instead of being hard, focused work on game situations, has to be geared to evaluating rookies.

    All these factors make it absurd for us to get depressed about the results of pre-season games and predict a terrible season based on them. We should wait at least until the next round of cuts before beginning to think we have any idea at all how the team will perform.

    In recent years, the Habs have tended to play too many pre-season games, and I think that is the case again this year. If they did not still have two sets of back-to-backs, they would not need to keep so many prospects in camp, most of whom have no chance of even getting called up in the event of injury. With the roster trimmed to close to 23, the team could start focusing right away on the actual lineup and working on things like the defensive system and special teams, which I think would get us in better shape to start the season.

    • SPATS says:

      Another diamond in the rough


    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Post of the day.
      I wish you had posted this earlier this morning when this place was unnecessarily in hysterics.

    • J_P says:

      Very well said on all points.

      Anyone getting upset over our pre-season games needs to take a step back and take a deep breath.

      Now, I think the habs are going to have a rough season this year, but it has nothing to do with pre-season results, and everything to do with how last season ended and the moves made (or not made).

    • Let’s just hope they use the remaining games as they should, not like two years ago when they had “team A” and “team B” or whatnot and then tried to start the season with a roster that hadn’t even played a full game together. We all remember how that turned out.

      Having said that, a little perspective is in order. So, Kudos on a post that’s based on reason and level-headed analysis. 😉


  14. Maritime Ron says:

    Re the Louis Leblanc’s quick cut and send down to Hamilton and what his Lady Aleksandra Wozniak tweeted:
    ( She is now ranked…377)

    Her career earnings before taxes and expenses are as follows, and that may be part of the problem (finances) for Super Star wannabees….

    2008 $277,473
    2009 $443,283
    2012 $336,002
    2013 $0

    Louis Leblanc Salary:
    Montreal – $1,170,000
    Hamilton – $67,500

    ” The Montreal Canadiens sent forward Louis Leblanc down to the American Hockey League’s Hamilton Bulldogs on Monday night, a move that did not sit well with girlfriend Aleksandra Wozniak.

    The Montreal-born tennis player criticized the move through social media on Tuesday, calling out the Canadiens organization for giving up too quickly on the 2009 first-round pick in the preseason.

    “He did everything the CH organisation told him to do and what…got cut this early?!,” she wrote in English on her Twitter account @alekswoz. “Oh and the reason…worst excuse ever!! This is wrong!”

    Wozniak also voiced her displeasure in French. “Une vrai joke avec la pire excuse pour “cuter” quelqu’un!!,” she added. “Vraiment pas un ‘fair shot’! Trop de manipulations! Super nouvelle organisation!” (“A real joke with the worst excuse for cutting someone. Really not a ‘fair shot!’ Too much manipulation!”)

    The tweets were later removed.”
    Good bye LL.

    Tom Brady’s Supermodel wife outburst may heve been tolerated, but you and your friend are not Tom Brady or Gisele Bundchen who once said following the Pats last Supr Bowl loss:

    ” You are supposed to catch the ball when you’re supposed to catch the ball,” Gisele said. “My husband cannot f*cken throw the ball and catch the ball at the same time.”

    • D Mex says:

      Gisele potty-mouth 😆

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

    • habstrinifan says:

      Sorry Ron but I agree with the young lady. If, as she says and others have posted here, Louis worked his but off and did everything the management had asked, then cutting him so early was unfair and discouraging.

      I am no LL fan. I am not sure what we drafted him in the 1st round to be. I don’t think he is a scorer nor a real 3rd liner but it would have been more positive to all ‘rookies’ to see the organization respond to ‘effort’ with an extended stay at camp. Especially since he played a very good game last nite… again according to reports.

      • twilighthours says:

        He didn’t play particularly well last night, trini

        • commandant says:

          I thought he was one of the better forwards last night.

          Go Habs Go!
          Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

          • twilighthours says:

            Sorry ben, If that’s him playing well then he is not going to make it.

            Sending him down so early is dodgy though

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I agree with you Ben. There wasn’t a lot the forwards could have been proud of last night but he looked decent and noticeable.

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • Kooch7800 says:

            Twi ..LL assisted on a goal and was playing well on the boards and managed to irritate Lucic right off the hop. most of our forwards last night couldn’t say they did much more.

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • Trisomy 21 says:

            The Habs roster is pretty much set. The team has to make it’s cuts, unless you play like Gallagher did in the 2011 training camp (like his hair was on fire) you’re not going to earn a spot on the team. Leblanc may have looked like one of the better prospects, but the ones who crack the NHL are supposed to make the decision to send htem down difficult. I didn’t see this form him.

      • J_P says:

        Please, he really had a brutal year last year in the MINORS, and wasnt exactly “lights out” in the pre-season games. Leafs did all this with Kadri and he looks pretty good right now, so maybe its all better for Louis this way.

    • 100HABS says:

      Correction. Her year to date income is $80k


    • Sportfan says:

      What happened to her tennis wise?

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    • JUST ME says:

      Although some will say that it`s a free country and that she has the right to voice her opinion , i am not sure that as the day goes on, it turns out to be a very wise P.R. move for both of them.

      They are both nice people but maybe a bit spoiled so when facing hurdles it is difficult to keep it inside i guess. Hopefully Leblanc will take it as a challenge to prove the habs he is NHL bound and that Aleksandra sticks to tennis in public and Louis in private…

    • JF says:

      Not sure that the respective earnings of Wozniak and Leblanc, let alone her WTA ranking, are relevant to her twitter remarks, which is what you seem to be at least insinuating. I agree that these remarks were ill-judged, but I can’t entirely disagree with the sentiment. It would have been encouraging for Leblanc, after his hard work rehabbing and getting in the best possible shape, to have been kept around a bit longer.

      BTW, Wozniak is a decent tennis player whose career has been hampered by a string of serious injuries. Her earnings are low for this year and her ranking more than 300 places below what it usually is because she’s only just returned from an injury that has kept her out since last fall.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I don’t get what income has to do with anything or Tom Brady. A lot of people are quite over the top on a 26 year-old’s silly tweet.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      “Good bye LL.

      Tom Brady’s Supermodel wife outburst may heve been tolerated, but you and your friend are not Tom Brady or Gisele Bundchen who once said following the Pats last Supr Bowl loss:”

      seems like a bit of an over-reaction…

  15. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    RE Leblanc:

    It’s his girlfriend, not his wife…who cares what she thinks? If LeBlanc is playing center, there was no room for him. Heck, there is even no room for Chucky at center now. He will definitely get a chance to play more in Hamilton so hopefully he makes the best of it.

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  16. A. Berke says:

    A lot of comments and arguments about Leblanc today. However, let’s not forget the fact that pretty much all draft picks irregardless of the round they were picked, must have to prove sooner or later that they belong in the nhl and Leblanc is no exception. Even though he has the potential and was a 1st round choice, I don’t believe he did prove himself decisively so far.

    We can all argue till we turn blue in the face, on the merits of sending him down to Bulldogs, IMO this will be an opportunity for him to prove himself that he belongs, regardless of the girlfriend’s or anyone else’s opinion.

    I’d say good luck and power to him and if he can’t cut it, then go back to school. Most people get much less opportunities in life.

    Now, all of us armchair QB’s let us concentrate on the remaining roster and decide the lines 🙂

    Ali B.

  17. habs11s says:

    Is the sky still falling?


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  18. frontenac1 says:

    @timo. I really like the kid(LeBlanc) but I agree, he has not impressed me at all over the past few years and having an ankle sprain as an excuse will only wash for so long. I am hoping for the best for him but expecting the worst even after half a bottle of Langevulin.

  19. Timo says:

    Why does anyone cares about Leblanc? He is a nobody who is at best an AHL caliber player. What’s the big deal?

    • Eddie says:

      he’s a 1st round draft pick who Habs fans were hoping would bring value to the franchise.

      • D Mex says:

        I recall lots of talk about his profile when he was drafted – he seemed to fill an organizational need, which may help explain why he was selected earlier than projected.
        Which, in turn, may explain why he is having so much difficulty sticking as a ” 1st round draft pick ” …

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

    • Sportfan says:

      People just don’t like that he’s not doing well for a 1st round pick.

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    • AH says:

      Yeah, I still remember all the hoopla and excitement when the Habs drafted the “hometown” boy.. besides the World Jrs. that’s basically been it for him, and whenever I see him play I can’t help but think “meh”. I’m hoping he succeeds and gets better, but the body of work so far is lacking.

  20. commandant says:

    I think the organization is challenging Leblanc. They want to see how he’ll respond to this set back. To put his nose to the grindstone and dominate in the AHL.

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  21. 100HABS says:

    Wozniak is going to get Leblanc traded. Habs can’t deal with this kind of knee-jerk reaction:


  22. Timo says:

    Btw, when people complain that Habs traded Leclair, Desjardins and Dionne for Recchi they forget that Habs didn’t just get a hockey players… they also got a neurologist.

  23. frontenac1 says:

    @johnny LaRue. Yeah,amigo, did all my Christmas shopping in each distillery. I will be jettisoning all clothing and filling my bags with bubble wrapped single malts. If I get busted at customs it will be worth it. Slainte!

  24. slyCH says:

    Regarding LL, all I can think of is he gave up Harvard to pursue the NHL dream of playing for the home team. Think about it, would he have left Harvard had he been drafted by the Bluejackets or the Predators? I doubt it. It’s not over for the guy, he just had a string of bad luck the last year and a half. Let’s see what happens. I wish him good luck.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Agreed. And he can go back to Harvard if this hockey business doesn’t work out.

      And I agree with krob’s earlier post: would have been a nice gesture on the Habs’ part to let him stick around at training camp a bit longer. But at the end of the day, this is business and it’s not like the kid is owed anything beyond the contract he signed…

      LL seems like a genuinely good kid though–I reckon he’ll do alright for himself one way or another.

    • commandant says:

      Once you have finished one year at Harvard, you can always go back (albeit without the scholarship).

      If he invested the money he makes in hockey well (got a good signing bonus, made quite a bit as a rookie in the NHL, anything else he gets over the years) the scholarship doesn’t matter much.

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  25. Newf_Habster says:

    Since his lady complained about her bf, it is time for Habs to trade him. It is not worthy to have him on the team because she has created a unhealthy and unnecessary distraction on the team on behalf of him.

  26. Newf_Habster says:

    Tim Thomas has signed with Floria Panthers in order to avoid meeting Obama cuz he knows they will not make it to the playoffs. 😉

  27. krob1000 says:

    I wouldn’t have had LEblanc pencilled in…but for the sake of a kid who has alredy shown signs of a hurt confidence I think it wouldhave ben wise to keep him around longer. He lost a year and a bit of his development. I wouldn’t give up on him yet but given the composition of the Habs he doesn’t really fit anywhere …if someone gets hurt he will likely get his chance. Collberg will be back overseas, others will be in the minors, they may need help on the right side, Thomas has that edge …although that is debatable.. Still could have told him this later but maybe this i sbest? who knows….once he gets his jump back he is a erebral player who could eventually become a 4th line center or 3rd line winger…maybe even more….but a while from now. We don’t know how far the ankle set him back and another year in the AHL will provide some insight. The accelerated development of Galch and Gallagher definitely make it hard for him….the acquisition of BRiere….the emergence of others and the Thomas/Kristo trade all mean they are projecting him to be a bottom line or defensive minded player…that takes more time as that role needs attention to detail and he must have 100 percent of his previous speed….and the expected acceleration that comes in the twenties.

    • Eddie says:

      krob, I will go out on limb here because I have not spoken to leblanc directly on this;

      Leblanc does not see himself as a defensive winger and he would have appreciated a chance to prove himself longer in this camp, as a centre.

      If Bournival and Dumont are ahead of him, along with Thomas and perhaps even Colberg, even though Leblanc has 40 games of effective play at the NHL level already under his belt, would you blame Leblanc for being a little worried?

      I agree with your position that it would have been more respectful to at least have kept him camp longer. One more week, 2 games against Carolina, maybe a few periods at center, and who knows?

      I think that Leblanc is kind of spinning his wheels here.

      • krob1000 says:

        But look at the centre position…Pleks, Galch, Eller, Dd, Briere are all ahead of him… the fact he is a right would help if it were close. The only one he is comparable to is White…until their is more sandpaper in the top nine there is no way Leblanc can take White’s spot. If the Habs had say Mccaron (mature) and B Morrow or someone like that….it may allow for someone like LL. Right now he is not as good offensively as any center except White…but White brings a much need dimension given the current composition. Could LL play with top wingers? possibly…that is what probably frustrates him….he doesn’t project as a guy who will create chances but he is very smart and with two offensive wingers could likely elevate his game…unfortunately that is the story for many AHLers….and guys who do not make it. He must adjust and/or round out his game to make the team…unless he moves on where an opportunity may or may not arise in another organziation…it is a tough egg to crack…center in the NHL. Every team is littered with wingers who used to be centers. Bournival outhustled virtually all of the forwards from what I have seen(not names Gallagher that is)….and I only saw a fraction of a period and an OT…but so far he wins the hardest worker award.

        • Eddie says:

          Maybe Bournival would not have looked so good against a much tougher group from Boston last night. But yes, against Buffalo he looked good.

          I think Leblanc wanted to battle for that 4th line center position and White is far from a lock on that.

          Any way it’s done.

          Either Leblanc lights it up in Hamilton or not.

          If not, he is likely done as a Hab.

  28. frontenac1 says:

    So after visiting 9 Single Malt distilleries on Islay over the last 4 days I finally come to in Edinburgh and all that happened is The Bruins beat the Habs? Did we at least win the Scraps?

    • krob1000 says:

      Fournier got MCquaids back….was moving in for the rear naked choke when the linesman jumped in. Mcquaid had come into the fight with a stand up gameplan but Fournier sucked him in by changing to southpaw, mcquaid scrambled away from that but then Fournier shot the second time, spun him and got his back. Mixed martial arts at its finest….no real pugilistic activity though.Nearly had him in the cross face chicken wing too.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Very, very jealous, Front. Hope you’re planning on taking a few dozen bottles back with you…

  29. Maritime Ron says:

    Marc Bergevin:
    ” I believe you have players that get you IN the playoffs, and you have players that get you THROUGH the playoffs.”
    A question for the HIO.

    What is the Over/Under for the Line of Max-Desharnais-Briere to stay together?
    Is it 10 games? 15? Or 20? Perhaps 5?

    How will Coach Therrien dole out PP time?

    Next question:
    How bad would this look in terms of talent and Balance in skill/speed/size/D responsibilities?
    (Flip where you wish)


    Unfortunately, there is NO room for David Desharnais on this team moving forward…or as GM Bergevin says, “I believe you have players that get you IN the playoffs, and you have players that get you THROUGH the playoffs.”

    Desharnais was a nice fill in when the Habs were lean at Center AND finished 28th….yet now, he is just ‘In The Way’ of 24 year old Lars Eller and budding Superstar Alex Galchenyuk….and not to forget Plekanec who is a Top 2nd line Center on any serious Cup contender team because of his overall game and D/PK smarts and intelligence and not forgetting his offense contributions.

    Plex has always been a top point producer scoring between 20-29 goals in his first 5 seasons before playing with a merry-go-round of AHLers during the disaster 2011/12 season when he still had 17 goals /52 points.
    Last year, he was on pace for a 24 goal/56 point season.

    Lastly, I don’t dislike Desharnais, yet do not see a place for him on the Habs if the team wants to be a serious Cup contender – certainly NOT in the Top 6 or preferred PP time.
    Desharnais may be better suited for teams like Florida, Phoenix, Calgary, Dallas…..

    • AH says:

      MR, great comment, and I like your lines..you put it very well when it comes to DD, there is no place for him here if the Habs want to contend; so true, could you see him surviving, let alone contributing in a 7 game series against the likes of the Gooins, Leafs, LA, Chi, etc. etc.?

    • Bigdawg says:

      wow can you go one day without bashing DD?

      At least with Timo, its kind of funny…you seem obsessed, an not in a good way.

      I feel for you :'(

  30. Max says:

    Leblanc at the NHL level is a Mr.Meh. Meh on scoring,meh on defense,meh on checking.Meh doesn’t get you a roster spot on most NHL teams unfortunately. He is a pretty good/average player but doesn’t excel in any one area that would garner further attention at this time.

    I think he’ll have a long career in Europe.

  31. frontenac1 says:

    Tiger”s Ex had her eyes on a Billionaire, not just a peasant Millionaire. And she scored!

  32. frontenac1 says:

    Is Tea Bag Timmy back from his Bunker?

  33. Maksimir says:

    I vote to give LeBlanc 30-40 games in Hamilton… see what he is made of instead of declaring him washed up … however if he doesn’t use this demotion as motivation it will be hard to argue that he just needs ‘development time’.

  34. PeterD says:

    I’m not worried about Leblanc at all…the NHL is a tough league to get into and not all players drafted develop enough to make it…and for sure when you look at how many forwards can advance to make it as a regular on the Habs team there just aren’t many spots for players (12-13 max).
    And the hope for the Habs should be that competion is fierce every year for players to make the big club…so a mid to late 1st round pick, even local kid is not assured of a spot at any time.

    I think Leblanc was mismanaged by the previous management group and brought him to town too early…sort of like MaxPac….remember how MaxPac was brought in and played spotty for parts of two seasons, then got sent to Hamilton to get his game refined…he did not take the demotion too well but applied himself and focussed on being the best player he could be…then when they call for him to return, he blew everyones mind by demanding to be a used in a top six role or he would stay in Hamilton…risky and ballsy but it worked for Patches…
    Leblanc? Well he now has the opportunity to develop and apply himself to make it necessary that the Habs management has to deal with him and bring him up to the main team or move him for other assets.
    Good luck Louis and I hope you choose your next steps and your next words wisely…your career and future in hockey very much depends on how you respond now.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      But how can we say that Pacs was mismanaged? That would mean something like ruined, would it not? And he’s far from that. I don’t think because a players goes up and down a few times, it means that he was mismanaged. In Pac’s case, the results say otherwise. Not everybody follows the same path, and not everyone is mismanaged who doesn’t stick the first time. Maybe this demotion will turn LL into a MaxPac. Who knows until later?

  35. DipsyDoodler says:

    If you were a young hockey player but not sure whether or not it was going to be your career you might not invest in skating lessons.

    But if, like Douglas Murray, it becomes clear that this is going to be your life, why not get an instructor? I mean it can’t but help. Even Tiger Woods has a swing instructor.

  36. Bigdawg says:

    RE: Leblanc

    Some players take time to grow before making to the NHL. Leblanc has only played like 80-90 AHL games so far (similar to Max). Look at Pleks – he played over 200 AHL games before making full time.

    Like wine, we should not whine, about Leblanc taking his time

  37. Whatever says:

    I knew Bergevin should have signed Jan Bulis for the preseason.

  38. Lafleurguy says:

    Gotta give a begrudging nod of thanks to the Sabres and the Bruins for dressing Kaleta, and Lucic. Gives the young prospects a taste of what it’s like to play against a schmuck and a truck.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • arcosenate says:

      Could be worse, it could be: Habs Trade LeClair, Desjardins, Dionne to Flyers for Recchi.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I’m pulling for Thomas but in watching him last night he was having difficulty down in the corners in the Bruins end. On a few occasions McQuaid just stuck the big left arm out or stuck his rear end out and Thomas couldn’t get close to the puck. It was just a couple shifts though and his first game as a Hab so hopefully the sample size was just small and we’ll see good things from him?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Too bad MB didn’t talk to you prior to trade to have prevented this. Clearly a case of MB being brain dead, obviously there was no extenuating circumstances leading to the trade of Kristo.

  39. Phil C says:

    I think we’ll know what the organization thinks of Leblanc when we see how they will use him in Hamilton. If they put him on one of the top lines and give him plenty of ice time, he’ll have an opportunity to be a callup this year. In this way, he controls his own fate. As a fan, I love the depth.

    Otherwise, not sure what the big deal is, they have Thomas ahead of him for the RW job, which is reasonable even if you disagree with it. I suspect Bournival and Dumont are being considered for the 4th line as well where Leblanc would not be a fit.

  40. habs-fan-84 says:

    Is Leblanc getting the Kadri treatment?
    *attempts to stir pot

  41. jedimyrmidon says:

    Further to Chris’s post below, here are some players drafted in the 1st round of the 2009 NHL Draft:

    5. Brayden Schenn
    7. Nazem Kadri
    9. Jared Cowen
    10. Magnus Parjavi
    11. Ryan Ellis
    12. Calvin De Haan
    13. Zack Kassian
    15. Peter Holland
    16. Nick Leddy
    17. David Rundblad
    18. Louis Leblanc
    19. Chris Kreider
    20. Jacob Josefson
    21. John Moore
    22. Jordan Schroeder
    Tim Erixon, Jordan Caron, Dylan Olson, etc.

    Not many established NHL players in the list. Leblanc’s development path also includes some injuries that involved a long rehab time, which would definitely impeded his development.
    15. Peter Holland

    • arcosenate says:

      That draft outside of the top ten was very weak. Strange phenomenon when a whole draft class is sub-par.

      • krob1000 says:

        Many will still be NHlers…they are still young….21 or 22 years old. many guys do not crack the Nhl until later on and still go on to be impact players…there will be some from that draft that do just that.

  42. christophor says:

    Leblanc did well in camp. It’s also notable that he did this while being placed on grinding lines during scrimmages and in the preseason game he played. By the end of yesterday’s game, however, he had worked his way up a line to center Hudon and Thomas.

    Not sure what’s going on. The same sort of thing was going on last year. Leblanc was playing with grinders in Hamilton with little special teams time while guys like Blunden were getting top 6 minutes. But in 2011-12, he played well as depth on the Habs, and when he was in Hamilton that year (which was a better team than the team they had last year), he was one of their best players.

    From an outside view of his more recent situation in Hamilton and in camp, it seems injuries and lack of faith in his capabilities have really dragged him down.

    I thought getting on Lucic’s nerves and drawing a penalty would have gotten him in MT’s good books.

    But maybe he doesn’t have enough character….

  43. DickandDanny says:

    Last night I went and watched Ottawa play the Flames in Saskatoon. From what I saw Ottawa will again be a tough team to score against. They have a huge defense, and that was without several of their starters, including Jared Cowan, who I had the good fortune to talk to between periods . They are a big tough team who like to play physical. There were 6 fights in the game and Ottawa won five of them. So, how do the habs compare? I still don’t see the team toughness and size that we need to compete with several teams in our confernece, including the Bruins, Flyers, and the Sens. I watched the habs v bruins game afterwards, and am hoping management take a good long look at Tarnasky, because he was one of the few Habs players who wasn’t afraid to mix it up with anyone last night.

    \”A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur\”

  44. jedimyrmidon says:

    I feel for Leblanc. Her tweets have only made his situation worse and invites the scrutiny of the media. Hope he escapes to Hamilton soon so he can focus on what really matters: having a good season there.

    I hope Habs management told him that they liked what they saw, and that they expect him to lead the Bulldogs this season. Lefebvre better put him in a position to succeed like Leblanc’s draft peer Chris Kreider who is being spoonfed opportunity after opportunity.

    • Sportfan says:

      What tweets?

      Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Not a smart move on her part. She is 26 years old you think she would know better. As fans know this organization doesn’t put up with BS at all and players will be buried in the minors or traded.

      LeBlanc I think will have a good year with the dogs. his injury set him back but there is no reason why he can’t go out and have a good year

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • slyCH says:

        She’s a meddler and should be dealt with accordingly.

        Louie; “what were you thinking?”
        Alexsandra; “I was simply following Tammy Wynettes’ advice, standing by my man!”
        Louie; “I’m gonna have to trade you”

        End of story…

      • habstrinifan says:

        think charging your fans for souvenir bricks on a commemorative plaza and then tearing it down and building some sort of condo while telling the fans that you gonna put new ‘souvenir’ bricks in some obscure corner someWHERE in their name … is BS.

    • DickandDanny says:

      Did we draft him to play 3rd and 4th line minutes? If we did then he looks ok. If he was drafted to be a number 1 or 2 line centre then we drafted poorly. This guy has had a lot of opportunity to showcase his talents and score some goals, make some offensive plays, garner some assist even, and all I ask is please show me where there is any proof of that ability at the NHL level. I don’t see it. I doubt you can tell me otherwise. Is he suddenly going to turn into Rocket Richard over night. God, I hope so,

      “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

  45. Luke says:

    I’d like to take this moment to once again talk about how dumb hybrid icing is.

    I don’t even understand the concept.

    Is it in an effort to prevent injuries?

    It can’t be. The only time the play is blown dead without touching the puck is when the defenseman is clearly going to win the race. This is the safest part of an icing play.

    The most dangerous part is when the keep the play alive. The thrill of the race… when the two players are both close, chasing down the puck and heading towards the end boards at a high rate of speed.

    It makes no sense!

  46. krob1000 says:

    Goals for predictions – Patches 31, dd-16, briere 23
    Pleks 18-bourque 22-gio-24
    prust-6, moen-5-white 4, call ups and rest 8

    subban 21, -markov-11, diaz -7, bouillon 3, gorges 3, others 6

    I just made these up….but they do nt seam unrealistic and that would be 269 goals for…good for 2nd in NHL last full season. I am sure some are high but some maybe low…to me the special teams and the kid line are the big ifs…but I see no reason the teams depth should not have them near the top of the heap in scoring.

    The bigger question IMO remains goals against….how will Price do and will the kids be better defensively.

    • Luke says:

      Actually those seems pretty reasonable.

      You might be a bit high with PK (I’d say ~15) and I’d put Boullion/Gorges and the rest at ~8 combined… but yah, splitting hairs at that point.

      • krob1000 says:

        I just went with last years pace for him …no growth just stay approx the same. I just figured if Beauleiu gets the call he will pot a few, tinordi may score a couple two and someone has to play 2nd pp wave….also Emelin should get in over half a season.

    • Phil C says:

      Agree, the team looks great up front. The first pairing on defense and the PP look good as well. They also have a lot of choices to make up a pretty good third pairing on D. The big question mark is who will be on that second D pairing playing 20 minutes a night against the other team’s top two lines? I like either Markov or Diaz in that role, but just not together. However it looks like that is how they will line up.

      The other question mark will be the PK, especially on D.

  47. von says:

    Pretty amusing to see so many people crying about Leblanc getting cut last night. So what it was a little early? The Habs brass obviously felt it’s best for him. Fine with me.

    As for his gf, I hope Leblanc had the brains to tell her to stay off Twitter, especially regarding him.


    “Obviously it would be great, but they don’t really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners.” – Carey Price

  48. Chris says:

    Leblanc is 22 years old (turns 23 in January). His career has obviously not gone as hoped thus far, but it is still early days. There have been flashes, but he was clearly fighting confidence and injury issues last season.

    He’s definitely got to step up his AHL game this season, but I don’t think he’s fallen out of Bergevin’s plans yet. If he gets off to a hot start this fall, I can easily see him getting an early call-up to the Habs when the injuries start hitting. The Bulldogs should see an improvement in their offensive depth, which can only help players like Bournival and Leblanc. They need skilled guys to play with, something that was definitely lacking last season.

    A lot of the guys who weren’t drafted in the top-10 of Leblanc’s 2009 NHL draft year are still finding their game. I would argue that Leblanc’s development is comparable to some of the other forwards that were drafted with similar expectations: Chris Kreider, Peter Holland, Zack Kassian, Jacob Josefson, Jordan Schroeder…all are still growing as players and the jury is still out on whether they are NHL players or not.

    Leblanc may or may not achieve his NHL dream. Let’s wait and see what he does with a year of good health and talented linemates in the AHL before writing him off.

    • habs11s says:

      +71 😉


      “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Another point is that he had a relatively good start to the season, playing on a line with Blake Geoffrion against enhanced AHL competition. They were the best line of the Bulldogs before he got injured, and then lost his linemate when Blake suffered his career-ending skull fracture. So it’s not like he sucked all year, he had a good beginning before things got derailed.

    • vegas says:

      if everyone progresses as they should, I can see Leblanc playing the right side in a shut down role with Plekanec in a year or 2

      I just wish he would put on some muscle mass, he just looks so frail

    • Eddie says:

      Chris, those were the talking points heading into this camp.
      Now Leblanc has been cut very, very early.
      That message, that he didn’t deserve to make it to the weekend with Bournival and Dumont, changes the narrative from the one we were hearing before and during camp.

      I think Leblanc deserved more of a look, but what do I know?

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Excellent post. Now if only more people would pay attention…

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Good post as always Chris.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Leblanc is far from established. Whether he’s a premium Pk guy, match-up for other team’s top sixes, pp-capable, heck even whether he can be put out in an shootout, are all unknowns. He needs lots of ice-time, which clearly won’t be available to him with the big club this year.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  49. arcosenate says:

    Don’t know if this has been posted here but:


  50. habs-fan-84 says:

    …so basically in the two games played, we’ve seen only 2 of the “real” lines (1 in each game).

    -Eller line
    -DD line

    Those two “real” lines looked pretty good in the two games played thus far.

  51. Forum Dog says:

    Every loss to the Bruins is like a punch in the gut, pre-season or not. That said, there was some good in last nights game:

    – White was pretty good. Got tangled up with Blunder on a couple of occasions, but won lots of face-offs, was a physical threat, and went hard into the corners after almost every puck.

    – Thomas was pretty effective I thought. Got some shots off and was always around the play. Showed a lot of heart and courage in the corners against guys like McQuaid.

    – Dietz showed some good skill on the PP. He is like a bigger version of Boullion. Decent skater, plays hard, and has a bit of puck moving ability.

    – Tinordi is making a case to stay. He is big and physical, which they need, and definitely wasn’t lying when he said he had worked on his puck skills. Saw him sidestep a few guys and make a couple good breakout passes.

    Recognizing this was a “meaningless” game, I would have liked to see a bit more intensity from Pacioretty (not credited with a single hit) and his line-mates. I don’t expect the other two to go around banging bodies, but they can’t play on the perimeter. Got to get in a mix it up.

    Also didn’t like Price’s game, but that was expected. Too nonchalant. I know his approach is: shrug, who cares, chill out, etc., but in a hockey mad city where everything is amped, and in a league and division where every game and point counts, you better bring a little fire and intensity. The best players bring it every time there out there, not just when they feel like it.

    Murray is slow, and is only gonna help the PK if he does his job and clears the front of that net. Him standing to the side and letting guys screen the goaler won’t cut it. PK overall was horrible. No-one was aggressive on the puck and, as a result there were no turnovers and very few clearances.

    Again, pre-season with a incomplete roster so no reason to freak out. But they are gonna have to get out of the gates well against a strong Atlantic division. Don’t want to be 3-7 after the first 10 when you are fighting with Boston, Detroit, Toronto, Ottawa and Tampa Bay for a playoff spot, especially with the schedule they’ve been given.

    • New says:

      I think White won’t make it this year. I thought Murray was ok but looks overweight, which should be gone with playing time. Leblanc and Hudon seemed to trip over paint a bit but I think that is from being nervous. Price is brilliant at times, then too casual at others. Dumont was my favorite. Not many guys get four minutes for high sticking the ice.

      You’d think with the money the NHL makes they could rule white tape road, black tape home.

      • Forum Dog says:

        White is the ideal 4th line centre. Tough, wins faceoffs, fires up his team-mates, agitates the opponent. He’s a keeper.

        As for the NHL, they don’t make money do they? I thought it was a break-even operation….

    • DickandDanny says:

      When will people learn Pacioretty is a peripheral player who likes nothing better than to roam around and not be touched by, or touch anyone. He’s harmlessas a fly. Yes, he pops in the odd goal but not a very well rounded player with barely any playmaking ability and of course no physical presence or meaness.

      \”A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur\”

      • Forum Dog says:

        Disagree – I’m a big Pacioretty fan. He’s already a very good offensive forward with a excellent shot, great reach, and good play-making ability. He also has great size and strength, is a fantastic skater and is capable of taking the puck hard to the net and controlling the puck down low. That said, I think some of the jam in his game was squeezed out when Chara put him into that stanchion, and then again when he got suspended for leveling Letang. I don’t blame him for being a little more cautious out there, but NHL hockey is a game of intensity and if you are going to separate yourself from the good and become great, you’ve got to get fired up.

  52. habs-fan-84 says:

    Leblanc is going to play a lot of games in Hamilton this year. He will also probably get a chance or two in Montreal should injuries arise (which they inevitably will).

    Not that big a deal.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I remember when he was with the Juniors. The guys from tsn690 often raved about him (they were doing the play-by-play & colour). He was dominating the league at some points in time. He got injured and took a step back.
      If he’s healthy, he should have a good season in Hamilton, and who knows….maybe get a shot in Montreal before too long.
      Here’s hoping!

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • New says:

      There always seems to be a reason why he isn’t progressing. I hope the time for setbacks is over and he makes it to the NHL but it won’t be by playing fourth line or 13th forward minutes on the Habs.

  53. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    After only two pre-season games it’s glaringly obvious that my i am in horrible game watching shape. A long summer of fishing and beer has left my eyeballs sluggish and my inability to follow play would leave others to conclude i am disinterested,have no heart. A strict regiment of Where’s Waldo,birdwatching and an all carrot diet seems to be my only chance of making the regular season and whipping my myopic nerve into shape.

  54. ClutchNGrab says:

    What gets me a little worked up about Leblanc is the pressure coming from forty year old journalists, commentators and fans to put a 19 year old kids in the CHL like it was the best decision for their career, but as soon as they disappoint in some kind of fashion, throwing them under the bus.

    Had he pursue his studies at Harvard, Louis would have started is fourth and final year this September giving him a solid option if it didn’t pan out in the NHL.

    I’m convince the NCAA is the right way to go for all athletes until we have a strong enough program led by our school in Canada. I know it was his decision to make, but he doesn’t deserve all this BS.

    • habinkam says:

      you should expand your knowledge of the chl before making such il-advised comments.. For every full year of play in the CHL comes with a full years tuition at any canadian university, so had LL played the customary 3-4 years of major junior he would have had the same scholastic chances. (obviously not at the level of harvard but mcgill is a great place)
      He wanted to be a hockey player and made the right choice. If you wanted to be a pilot would you go to business shool too just incase??

      • Luke says:

        1 year tuition for each year of service, provided you do not play any level of professional hockey…

        “That’s right – once a player graduates from the OHL and provided he does not sign a professional contract with an NHL, AHL, ECHL, UHL, CHL or European Club – he is eligible to obtain a scholarship for each year played in the OHL…”

        Not so bad for LL and others that make a million or two on NHL ELCs, but the UHL and CHL? Those guys are probably working a part-time entry level job, while playing for a couple hundred bucks a week… They are getting shafted by the policy.

        • Chris says:

          An often ignored caveat to the CHL offer.

          If I had a kid that was good enough to even dream NHL, I would absolutely be encouraging them to go the NCAA route. The odds are no worse for making it to the NHL, but the education prospects are obviously much, much beter.

      • D Mex says:

        Clutch’s comment is valid.
        Depending upon whatever package was thrown his way by Harvard, the NCAA route can carry a lot more $$ value than simple tuition.
        Sure – lots of great schools out there, and McGill is one of them, but tuition alone is far from the full NCAA ride of tuition, books, lodging, etc he may have walked away from.
        School is the smart way to go – ask Ken Dryden. For that matter, ask Parros or Murray.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

        • Mats Naslund says:

          In just 2 seasons play Louis Leblanc has made just shy of $900,000.00 playing hockey and not going to school. Even if he doesn’t play an NHL game this season he will top the $1 Million mark for his career (3 seasons). Name me one person on earth who wouldn’t take that deal over going to Harvard for a few years. If hockey doesn’t work out – he’ll be free to pick his school of choice at the end of all of this and still be WAY ahead of any of his classmates graduating this summer – all of whom would probably jump for joy at the prospect of making what he will make in the AHL this season with his bonuses. Going to school makes sense for lots of people – but not 1st round draft picks.

          • D Mex says:

            You bring the 1st round selection into the discussion, this begs the question : was he a bonafide 1st round pick ?
            If yes, pro hockey could and would have waited. My view is that he did not merit the 1st round pick, but slotted in there because he fit a certain profile at the time.
            So now he has $1M – great. He buys a house, goes to school, and gets himself a part-time job to pay the bills.
            He’s still wearing a football jersey (#71) with the Habs – Tinordi has been all but anointed with a longer-term #24. That, combined with his latest trip to Hamilton, speaks volumes IMO.

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

          • Luke says:

            Football Jerseys:


          • D Mex says:

            I anticipated that when I made the comment.
            You forgot 51 – and that one is hard to forget ! Thing is, they are all sticking in Montreal – Leblanc is not.
            He was drafted way ahead of Tinordi and others, after all.

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

  55. thebonscott says:


    would be sweet

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  56. Strummer says:

    Leblanc is still young enough that he can turn his career around.
    It’s another case of moving a player too quickly through the system because management thinks the fans need a hero ( Latendresse, Price).

    If you look at the Detroit model many of their stars including Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Datsyuk and Kronwall didn’t hit their stride until their mid-20’s.

    The patience of the Red Wings organization paid off in the end.

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  57. Maritime Ron says:

    Re the Louis Leblanc argument

    The young man appears to be caught between a rock and a hard place, with some injury bad luck thrown in and perhaps mismanaged from the get go.

    Regardless if he was a 1st Round/18th overall pick, he was NOT chosen by this present senior management.
    That becomes somewhat of an important item unless the player is in the elite category such as PK.

    We will also never know if that was purely a Trevor Timmins choice, or was he overruled by Gainey/Gauthier at that specific time.

    It is difficult to position Leblanc on the Habs with what is most certainly a different player/management philosophy of Bergevin, Dudley, Carriere, and Mellanby/Lapointe.
    Leblanc is not a natural scorer, is far from being a power forward, nor is he a superb skater.

    Unless Leblanc starts to dominate the AHL, he may become one of those footnote trades where 1 org trades a top choice flopper to another org for its top choice flopper.

    • Luke says:

      He could be Manny Malholtra type.

      He’s got a bit of offense, plays sound defense. A 2nd/3rd line guy who can move around the line-up. 2nd line AHL, 3rd line NHL.

      A Latendresse for Pouliot type deal is what you are seeing?

      Personally, I’m preaching patience. Bickell was 26 before he established himself. LL’s got some time.

  58. thebonscott says:

    For all the people who think Leblanc is a bust (i disagree), however i would be happy if they could package him to get rid of Davey Desharnais. Calgary is in rebuild mode, hmmmmm DD and leblanc for glencross and a pick??

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

    • Maritime Ron says:

      I’m sure Calgary would give up their 30 year old Assistant Captain, and now consistent +25 goal scorer AND a pick for Desharnais and Leblanc.

      I am also sure that Brian Burke – he of the infamous speech of wanting his teams to possess… “Pugnacity, Testosterone, Truculence and Belligerence” would do a deal like that.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      If Calgary were interested in a small, offensive center who can produces when given “sheltered” minutes, they would have signed Brunner.

      DD for a 7th round pick might not interest Calgary.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Broken record: Curtis Glencross gave a hometown discount to the Flames in return for a No Trade Clause. He lives in Alberta year-round, has a massive ranch, and so does his family and his wife’s family. He’s all about that lifestyle. He has been very clear that he won’t waive his NTC, not after leaving money on the table to stay in Calgary.

      We really need to put the Curtis Glencross trade rumours to rest.

      When the Danny Kristo rumours erupted before the draft, I spent a few days on Calgary fan boards, and they have the same issues we have. They want size, better defence, more scoring, a true #1 centre. They hate Mark Jankowski, their 2012 first-rounder, he didn’t develop last season at all like they’d hoped, and he was a longshot to begin with. They think Jay Feaster is an idiot. So while we’re making up trades where we give up loose change for Curtis Glencross, they’re trying to swap us their busts and fourth-liners and small players for Max Pacioretty and P.K. Subban (“He hates it in Montreal, he was in a contract squabble, there’s too much pressure there…)

  59. zephyr says:

    watched the game on tsn2 last nite instead of rds. tsn interviewed mb & got the usual glib stuff except mb said we don’t have depth. interesting. he said McCarron is showing a lot of promise but still has to grow into his big body. as good as he played I think we could see that. he stressed the importance of helping these guys develop in the right direction. mb knows what he’s doing. so does therrien.

    • habs12 says:

      Correct me if i am wrong, but i think when asked about 1 area he would like to address as part of his ‘wish-list’ he said depth. I dont think he was implying that the habs lack depth, but rather that, as he explained, you can never have enough of it. Also, I doubt any intelligent gm would answer that question honestly on national television, essentially ridding yourself of any leverage in a possible trade. Have to keep your cards close to your chest.

    • krob1000 says:

      Team has ton of depth…provded the Eller, Glach-Gally line does not suffer a growing pain and step back. Everything hinges on that line quite honestly I believe re depth. The other lines are quite proven and you know what you will get……if that line plays as they did near the end of last year then the team is in great shpae and depth is not a concern.
      Perhaps he was laying hte groundwork for a BRendan Morrow signing!!! I think he is exaclty what they could use up front…swap him for Moen and you are looking pretty damn sweet!
      Oops…just woke up. Great dream though.

    • vegas says:

      he is correct we don’t have depth, ANyways I personally don’t like our forward depth. Our D Depth is promising and I think we are set for the next decade. But other than McCarron and maybe Bournival as a 3rd, 4th center nothing else excites me

      They are tiny
      I was looking at Leblanc next to Lucic last night and he looked like a Hand puppet, and he’s probably our second biggest true prospect after McCarron

      Reway, miniature
      Collberg small
      Andrighetto tiny
      Dumont very small
      Hudon, petite
      Thomas even smaller

      Hopefully guys like Crisp and De La Rose pan out soner than later, cause the future is bleak

      We need guys to replace Gionta next season and Briere the year after that, and the replacement don’t seem any bigger and ay grittier. and desharnais Ughhhhhh

  60. Mats Naslund says:

    People who are down on Leblanc just need something to complain about. He’s played 90 games in the AHL. If he needs a few more he would hardly be the first player to do so. Daniel Briere spent parts of 4 seasons in the AHL. Pacioretty spent parts of 3 seasons there. Plecanec spent 3 full seasons in the AHL. Prust spent 3 seasons.

    Apparently none of these guys ever became legit NHLers though – so that settles it. Louis is done.

  61. PrimeTime says:

    2 preseason games are not indicitive of any teams season. They team gets to sell some tickets and genererate team interest – showcase some young prospects. The GM and Coach have a totally different perspective. They dont randomly make choices – they are working to test a broader view of the team and the players. Every day of camp is another day towards narrowing down the perspective towards the upcoming season.

    The “fanatical fan” is the guy who wants instant satisfaction and wants hero’s to emerge. Sorry boys but the league has so much parity now that one or 2 players don’t win a championship. The best player in the league does not win a ring every year. Good teams take time to build – the rules have changed since the Toe Blake days where the league is much more competitive and the good players are no longer hidden or as easily attained.

    It’s a team game and the job of the GM is to set up winning conditions and culture from the brand team to feeder team to the support systems. The Coaches teach a system that maximizes team and player productivity. Some players execute the system better than others immediately and some need time to adjust and learn. 98% of fans have no insight into the game. They only see the good plays and the bad plays – they don’t “see the game” as all those invested in the game see it.

    Fans are critics and want to believe they know more than the next guy. If the team wins, they are better than that other guy. If the teams loses they defend their opinion and say “I told you so”. They are the same every where – not just MTL. In the end, the only purpose a fan serves to any sport is provide an audience and revenue.

    Sites like this take advantage of the fans fanaticism. The more trolls the better!! The game blog is a perfect example of clever marketing. Boone adds zero insight to the actual game – only “off the cuff” comments no different than any other of the posters who add their thoughts at any given moment during the game. It plays off fans emotions. Consider yourselves USED!!

    If MB can make the Habs “competitive” year in and year out then it is my pleasure to cheer for them! If he fails, then it’s “NEXT!”. Either way I will quitely follow my team and hope they can bring that joy that we all want so we can claim “I told you so!!” in a good way 🙂


  62. Ian Cobb says:

    More cuts to come! I think about 8 or 9 yet.

  63. Sportfan says:

    Anyone know when the Bulldogs are coming to town?

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • Strummer says:

      they’ve been in town for the last 2 games.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • Habsrule1 says:

      They’re in town now!

      Sorry Strummer….ya beat me to it.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  64. frontenac1 says:

    Edit. Slainte!!Damn spellcheck.

  65. sweetmad says:

    So that’s it we are done for this year,
    There’s always next year, never fear,
    The team is a mess,they cannot play,
    To think I waited all summer, for this day,
    This is one funeral, I won’t attend,
    Everythings brocken,it will not mend.

    I love to go on the web and see,
    All the clairvoyants, saying how it will be,
    This air of darkness, this air of gloom,
    We already know this season’s gone boom,
    There is no reason to continue on,
    For Hio the seasons gone.

    We have already lost 2 preason games,
    Who is at fault,I will give you names,
    Carey of course shoud be the first one shot,
    For an elite goalie he’s never hot,
    Murry for one is far too slow,
    Why we signed him I don’t know.

    Pleks didn’t even show on the ice,
    For our supposed best player that isn’t nice,
    DD we know is a waste of space,
    We know he will never win a race
    What the hell was Moen doing in front of the net,
    Not trying to score you can bet.

    There is no point in saying more,
    We know our team cannot score,
    We know the D is no defense,
    Why we play them,makes no sense,
    Our team is useless, they are so small,
    We should just give them a stick and a ball.

    For all those who live with an empty glass,
    I feel pity for you so I will let it pass,
    Timo you need to fill your glass up,
    But the barkeep doesn’t have a double D cup,
    Oh! I forgot for you that’s a dirty sound,
    Unless it’s filled with flesh that wieghs 10 pound,

    Sarcasm doesn’t show in my rhyme,
    But really it’s a waste of time,
    For people who think the season’s already past,
    I hope your misery doesn’t last,
    I know 2 preseason’s games are already lost,
    But for points there is no cost.

    I can’t wait for the season to start,
    My enthusiasm,will not depart,
    Perhaps the playoffs we will not make,
    But my heart it will not break,
    I will aways hope just the same,
    After all it’s only a game.

  66. frontenac1 says:

    Scotland! Whiskey! Habs! It’s all good amigos. Don’t get your knickers in a twist amigos its all good. Elaine!

  67. Mark C says:

    The ratio of reasonable post to bat crap crazy post is epically off the charts today.

    Is this a game of one-upmanship or are people this out of touch?

  68. Rad says:

    I feel bad for Louis Louis

    It doesn’t look like our great French Canadian hope is going to make it. I hope I’m wrong.

  69. L Elle says:

    @MRnn. Thanks, I have a new line in support of my PriceBotism.

    “Oh yeah, you think you know more about hockey than Sidney Crosby, ey?” LOL

  70. Price07 says:

    I don’t remember who I had this argument with a couple seasons ago, but I said Leblanc was going nowhere. I said we should have drafted Kreider. Obviously I was right about Leblanc not going anywhere. Kreider has yet to prove himself, however at 6’3 230 and skates well for a big man, there is a lot more you can do with the guy than you can with Leblanc.

    • Habsrule1 says:


      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • twilighthours says:

        The “I told you so” posts are always my favourite, too.

        • Maritime Ron says:

          We could have also drafted Colby Cohen in the 45th spot of the 2007 draft but we took PK Subban in the 43th spot instead

          Dmen drafted before P.K. Subban (43rd)

          4 Los Angeles Thomas Hickey
          5 Washington Karl Alzner
          10 Florida Keaton Ellerby
          12 Montreal Ryan McDonagh
          14 Colorado Kevin Shattenkirk
          15 Edmonton Alex Plante
          18 St. Louis Ian Cole
          23 Nashville Jonathon Blum
          27 Detroit Brendan Smith
          30 Phoenix Nick Ross
          31 Buffalo T.J. Brennan
          33 Vancouver Taylor Ellington
          34 Washington Josh Godfrey
          35 Boston Tommy Cross
          41 Philadelphia Kevin Marshall

          43 Montreal P.K. Subban

          • Habsrule1 says:

            We did ok there….don’t tell anyone! They might feel the need to say something good about the Habs organization.

            Oh, the HORROR!

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • commandant says:

      Yeah, maybe, you were right about Leblanc.

      However Kreider hasn’t proven a damn thing either.

      Go Habs Go!
      Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • Luke says:


      You are spot on here.

      Leblanc (the bust with the 5 goals and 42 pro games) has proven nothing and is a waste!

      Let’s get Kreider… he of the same age, same draft class, fewer games played, fewer points and higher contract demands.

      He’s obvisouly a way better solution than The Bust Leblanc. You can tell this because they are the same age and he has played fewer games and accomplished less than The Bust that’s going nowhere.

  71. krob1000 says:

    Timo and everyone……sometimes we look at our Habs with rose coloured glasses and sometimes me look at them through a magnifying glass like they are ants on a hot summers day in our childhood.
    The beaulty of the Habs is depth and while it is very easy to criticize each player in some aspect and hope for upgrades we must not get lost from another reality of the new NHL….the scarcity of depth.
    If you look around the NHL reight now there are several quality vets being squeezed out of the game, there are so many teams and a one year cap crunch that has wreaked even more havoc then previous caps. This all dilutes the talent and every team has its issues. Pick any team and you will find someone bottom end players with holes in their game….but over an 82 game schedule depth and health play important roles.
    The reality is that the team can sustain several inujuries IMO and still be in a playoff hunt. Without the condensed schedule gusy should be allowed sufficent time to heal,etc and will nt be forced to play through injuries. This also often leads to additional injry as the slightest bit of hesitation or altering of ones game puts one into more vulnerable situations.
    No tam anymore is rock solid from top to bottom…..many still think relevant to glory days of 6 team NHL’s, then others refer to alter on when there were someewhere between 6 adn 21….even those are not even comparable to todays game where the talent is further dilluted. Factor in that cap and you are going to have guys on a roster who may not be up to your preconceived and outdated standards. This would happen on the best of teams….Habs fans would be all over Lucic for occasionally floating and disappearing…he does that often for long stretches, Mcquaid is comparble to Murray or Gill, Krug is undersized,etc,etc. Pick any team and approach them with an HIO mentality and you can have a field day.
    I personally think health, special teams, luck and depth are keys in the NEW NHL…and the X factor is top end talent at affordable rates. The Habs happen to have that luxury this seaon…and with the depth and flexibilty and “balance” as MB refers to it as I fully expect the team to compete for a top end spot and have a very successful season.
    Of course this is all on paper and the Blue Jays re taught us that lesson but as of now I am very, very optimistic and will be unless the team is in dire trouble after about 15 or 20 games (don’t forget the gellin period lol).
    Until then I love seeing the kids holding their own and giving us glimpses of times ahead….but I won;t look too far ahead and because the future may just be here depending on the success of the affordable high end talent (Eller, Subban, Gally’s,etc)

    • SPATS says:

      Listening to the TSN announcer last night he commented on the luck the Bruins have enjoyed over the last couple of years. Toe save on Gio, Ryder’s save, Laff collapse etc

      I remember vividly how Julien was on the chopping block after trailing 0-2 and hiding his team in Lake Placid a few years back, yet managing (with much good luck to our bad luck) to eek out a victory on the way to a Cup. We gave them more that year than any of the other teams they faced. Flip the luck and who knows?

      We would certainly not have to listen to him drone on about “embellishments”

      I see the glass half full and cheer the jersey, but deep down in the cap age with parity etc, you need luck just to make the post season, then you need B’s type luck to hoist the prize.


    • Chris says:

      I’m a big fan of Montreal’s depth…I think it is the right direction when you lack a legitimate offensive superstar or two like the usual suspects feature (Kane and Toews, Crosby and Malkin, Datsyuk and Zetterberg, Perry and Getzlaf, the Sedins, etc.).

      But I disagree that the Habs’ depth allows them to suffer several injuries and remain a playoff team. Like every team, the Habs are vulnerable to key injuries. If any of Price, Subban, Markov, Pacioretty or Plekanec were to go down for a sustained period of time, this team is in serious trouble.

      The Habs have amassed a significant amount of third and fourth line talent, like most teams in the NHL. I think that Eller-Galchenyuk-Gallagher is one of the better offensive third lines in the NHL (although they have to step up their two-way play this season if they want to be considered a truly elite line).

      Montreal has probably 8 or 9 guys who can play top-6 minutes, which is pretty awesome. Unfortunately, they only have 1 guy (Pacioretty) who is a legitimate top-3 guy for a Stanley Cup contender. Until that changes, the Habs have to hope that their depth doesn’t get too severely tested.

      • krob1000 says:

        Last 4 cup finalists were Hawks, Bruins, Devils and Kings …..of those I would say only the Hawks had a compostion like you mention but all had depth. None of them had Ovechkin, Stamkos, Crosby, Malin or St Louiis as perrennial top scorers. They all had depth, pertty good balance and were not able to be shut down by mathcing top line or top 6 combos. The HAbs are actually built similarly to those teams only the HAbs are deepr all the way down and give up some on top end.
        Plekanec is comparable to Parise, Bergeron, Krejci, Koptiar,etc.Patches statistically matches up against any other goals scorer on any other team, Subban is the reigning Norris guy, Price is in the mix with guys like Thomas, Quick, Crawford and an aged Brodeur,etc. The toughness area has always beent he achilles heal as health and injury become a huge factor in the playoffs as they are a gruel like no other. I do thinkthe team has gerat depth and I believe have more than enough top 9 talent.

        • Chris says:

          Plekanec is not comparable to Parise. Parise is a legitimate first-line forward in the NHL for just about any team, a 5-time 30 goal scorer who has flirted with 50 goals once. He’s also a capable two-way forward.

          I like Plekanec, but he is not in Parise’s league. For that matter, he can’t really compare to Kopitar either…Kopitar has been a point-per-game forward while playing for one of the lower scoring teams in the league.

          Plekanec is a very good, and possible even elite, second line centre. He is a mediocre top-line player. I think the Krejci comparison is more fair, although Krejci has routinely stepped up his game in the clutch while Plekanec has historically faltered in the second half and especially in the playoffs.

          Offence wins championships. There are very rare cases where an elite defensive team can win a Stanley Cup, but in general the winning teams have players that they know they can count on to score goals.

          In a four-round playoffs, who can you count on to score goals for the Montreal Canadiens? For me, it is Pacioretty and then a bunch of question marks. I think Galchenyuk is a budding superstar, and Eller has potential to be a guy who thrives in the playoffs. But right now, based on historical performance, this is not a team that has shown that they can stup up their game in the playoffs.

          • krob1000 says:

            When Parise went to the Finals he had Kovalchuk and Elias and fgot 69 points. Pleks has done that twice…when given the teams top end talent as Parise was. Dd got the teams best winger though the last two seasons. Defensivel Parise is not in Pelks territory…..he played in two very tight defensvie systemsn…but he himself is not as goo defensively as Pleks. Parise’s last two seasons were 69 points and then pace for 65pts…comparable to what I believe Pleks would put up if he got BRiere and Patches.
            Kopitar topped out so far at 81 points and while bigger he is not known for his two way prowress either…he is not a floater by ay means but Richrads got the touhg assignments. Kopitar is super skilled but I think Galchneyuk has a higher ceiling than kOpitar as early as next season if given the chance.
            Pleks is also a penalty killing specialist who does not always get first line pp even though he has shown he can be a first line center when given the opportunity. Both years he was he w3as in Kopitar point territory.
            I think if the team gave Galchenyuk Brier and PAcioretty he could challenge that 81 point total if also on first pp unit.
            re your goal scoring thing…that is where you and I differ…I think the HAbs depth is the goalmaking didfference..at some point therir lnes chalk full of 20-30 goal guys outmatch the opposition. On the back end the d corps is as offensive as any around.
            Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Patches,Bourque, Gionta, Pleks, Briere, Eller, DD……all should be at least 15 goals and all could possiblty hit 20 with a handful around 30. Subban could score 15 and Markov should be good for 10. That is some serious offense and the pp shouldagain be lethal.

      • New says:

        I think you’re right. Lucic didn’t start out being a 60 point a year guy but he started out being a thorn in the sides of most teams. When he moved into the top six the points came. He keeps it simple. North, south, and knock over anything in your way. When teams have lines like that and push comes to shove they can be on the ice for 24, maybe 25 minutes. Which means your 3rd and 4th lines are badly outclassed or your 1st and 2nd are outmuscled, the D worn down, and the goalie trampled.

        That doesn’t mean you can’t do ok in the regular season but it usually means you do badly in the race to the finish line and get tossed in the playoffs. People are people. When it comes time to give it everything you have some people with more to give.

  72. Trollhunter says:

    My troll senses are tingling
    Hunting season begins…

    “Troll the troll”

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