Habs trim training camp roster to 38 players (Video)


Canadiens’ first-round draft pick Louis Leblanc was among 14 players cut from the team’s training camp Monday night after the Habs’ 6-3 loss to the Boston Bruins.

The Canadiens roster now stands at 38 players, including five who are injured.

The players cut also includes: Sven Andrighetto, Robert Mayer, Matt Lashoff, Dalton Thrower, Erik Nyström, Morgan Ellis, Joonas Nattinen, Martin Reway, Darren Dietz, Charles Hudon, Stephen MacAulay and goaltender Zachary Fucale.

Ten players will return to the Hamilton Bulldogs while Fucale, Hudon and Reway head back to their respective junior teams. The team also plans to invite Lashoff to  the Bulldogs training camp.

Fucale described the camp as a big learning experience and beneficial for his development.

“I saw the level of play is very high, very fast. So for me it’s very important to work on every aspect of my game,” he said.

“There are so many screens during the game. A lot of people are trying to obstruct the view.  And guys are stronger, they’re smarter, their shots are just harder,” Fucale said.

“Every little aspect of the game is better in the NHL and you’ve got to adjust and get better.”

A big story line heading into the game was the Subban brothers squaring off for the first time. P.K. Subban’s younger brother Malcolm, the Bruins’ first-round draft pick in 2012, replaced Chad Johnson in net part way through the second period.

“It was a pretty cool experience,” P.K. Subban said after the game

Their father, grandfather and next door neighbour were at the Bell Centre for the game.  “I don’t think I got a shot on (Malcolm),” Subban said. In fact, he had one shot from the point that his brother easily stopped.

A short-lived “P.K., P.K.” chant started high up in the Bell Centre after the announcement of the goalie changes. (Robert Mayer also replaced Canadiens’ goaltender Carey Price.)

Subban called it a good experience for his brother.

“If you can play in Montreal, you can pretty much play anywhere in terms of the intensity in this building and the pressure. I thought he handled himself well for his first game.”

 You can hear what Canadiens’ forward Max Pacioretty had to say after the game here:



  1. boing007 says:

    Is DD better than AG? Hell no!

    Richard R

    • krob1000 says:

      The real question is who is better than either of them? if noone after 4 lines then you make room and roles for both….and both are in positions they can succeed in or so it appears.

  2. awesomerino says:

    You’ve got to figure Leblanc’s demotion puts his status as hockey’s reigning affirmative action hire in jeopardy.

  3. boing007 says:

    Habs need a big centreman. Forget DD he’s a shrimp, send him back to the Midgets. Insert AG27 tout de suite.

    Richard R

  4. JO says:

    The team is already picked. This is just take a look see. Maybe one of the kids will impress MB and crack the line up with the big team. I take these exhibition games for what it’s worth hoping it’s not gonna carry over into the regular season when the real team starts …

    This site will explode should the Habs lose to the Leafs in their Game opener.


  5. mrhabby says:

    From the outside its clear the new mgmnt team sees Louis Leblancs career is not in Montreal..just bad luck i guess and not really what peeps thought when he was drafted originally. He is getting his game in shape for another team in hammy..just my guess.

    its pre-season and all about the very young guys and who might stick…not many i guess. Habs are increasing the depth throughout..looks promising. Still a work in progress.

  6. Maritime Ron says:

    This may make Habs fans in general, and Price fans in particular, very happy

    Several NHL stars were asked who is the best NHL goalie
    Near the end of the video, Sid Crosby chooses Carey Price.
    No kidding!


  7. jedimyrmidon says:

    My goodness is there a lot of anger on here this morning.

    If everyone here lashed out at once, pretty much the whole team would be taken down. The only ones who wouldn’t be would be PK, Eller, Gallagher and Galchenyuk.

    Guess what! There is not a SINGLE team in the NHL that has 20 players of such ‘irreproachable’ caliber! And part of the reason they can escape some criticism is because they’re younger.

    I find it hilarious that even the Habs’ leading scorer Pacioretty is coming under fire. Sure, one can nitpick at his game, but some people seem to be genuinely frustrated with his play.

    People can’t seem to understand that the lineup against the Bruins last night was not what the final team will look like, that the Habs had very few players that could drive the offense on the roster AND that veterans have no reason to play with regular season intensity.

    Oh, but Iginla-Krejci-Lucic did well. Good for them. The level of talent on that line is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe they did that much damage without trying or maybe they were trying to gel and impress Claude Julien. Or maybe Julien wanted his team to play well at the Bell Centre due to past history. Maybe the players on the Bruins team were far more experienced than the Habs roster, and more used to playing together. Maybe the Habs’ PK scheme is terrible, and maybe Therrien was experimenting with different players on the PK, making it even worse. Maybe if Plekanec were there, things would have looked better.

    Edit: MAYBE it’s the BEGINNING of the pre-season, and there are a lot of confounding factors that make it foolish to make such sweeping statements about the performance of the final version of the team in the regular season.

    If they’re losing all their pre-season games with something nearing the final roster, then I’d begin to worry.

  8. habstrinifan says:

    Good Morning everyone.
    Quite irrationally, I have this uneasy fear that the methodology employed at this years training camp will be one of delusory diligence when it needs to be plain simple old due diligence.

    You all know what diligence is… careful attentive hard work at a specific task.

    Thus ‘due diligence’ is that work appropriately applied to a defined task without allowance.. unmerited steps are either corrected or removed and at the end you have the result.. if that result falls short scrap the endeavour… do not hope for success through…well diligence.. just move on.

    And ‘delusory diligence’? Well nothing says it better than the phrase which may have come from the experience of some obdurate horse handler of the 12 century, “you can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink”. Wait! What am I saying? Leave it to Albert Einstin to say it better. “Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.

    And so my friends, I come to the atmosphere of training camp. From the words of our esteemed coach, MT and from the many sources of punditry I read(some here on HIO), I fear another training camp of delusory diligence.

    Let’s put DD and PACS and Briere together and diligently work to get them going.
    Let’s continue with White and Blunden and diligently work to get that useful 3rd liner.
    Let’s wait for WAITE to make an enigmatic Price a Mona Lisa keeper.

    Delusory so?

    Let’s take one of those examples and look at it. How about sitting up in the rafters with pen and paper in hand and doing simple plain old due diligence on the performance of White-Blunden against say Bournival-Dumont. Your task to find a redoubtable 3rd liner from within our ranks. No delusory pre-concepts. No ‘make a better person/player’ project. There are other areas that need that ‘due diligence’ no nonsense approach. Like DD/PAC/BRIERE on the same line?

    A week of due diligence is what MT needs now ending with a no delusions ‘no excuses’ team by Saturday.

  9. JF says:

    The only thing that concerns me about the cuts is the fate of Louis Leblanc. He was probably never going to crack the lineup to start the season, but the fact he’s been cut after only one pre-season game raises the question of whether he’s even in the Habs’ plans any more. I thought he actually looked pretty good last night (relatively speaking, that is; the team as a whole was far less ready than the Bruins); but there’s no doubt he has been passed on the depth chart by Michael Bournival and probably by Gabriel Dumont as well. There’s also Christian Thomas, so it is difficult to see what role he could have with the Habs even next season. He doesn’t score enough to be a top-six guy, he doesn’t seem suited to a fourth-line role, and I can’t see there being a spot for him on the third line.

    I hope being cut so early does not undermine his confidence and that he can go back to Hamilton, stay healthy, and have a really strong season. His chance could still come if there are injuries, in which case it would be up to him to make the most of it and impress the Habs’ brass or the scouts of some other team.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Logical post. I couldn’t help but think you could have described LL’s place a year ago when he wasn’t even invited to camp. He wasn’t exactly a ball of fire in Hamilton even before his ankle injury.
      Perhaps this is a test of his determination?

    • arcosenate says:

      He didn’t look bad at all last night, tried to finish his checks and had an assist. I have seen him play a few times in MTL and he didn’t look terribly out of place then as well. But you’re right, he’s going to have to treat this as a make or break year in Hamilton. Play hard and stay healthy because you never know what might happen with injuries.

      The rats on Ottawa radio were gloating about him being cut today, pretty shallow, laughing at the guy for not making the team. File that away and hope he does make a career of it in MTL.

    • JUST ME says:

      I think the decision was made way before yesterday and does not have anything to do with Leblanc having a good pre-season or not. I think they want him to have a good and positive stint with the Bulldogs instead of having leftover minutes in MTL.

      He was in top shape and in very good spirit and let`s hope the news did not bring him down.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      What bugs me is, that comparing the pre-season game against the Bruins and the Sabres, the Sabres were definitely the easier opponent. And it appears that most players cut were forwards from the Bruins game.

      Just looking at last night’s roster, there was no one other than the MaxPac-DD-Briere line that could be counted to drive the offense. The rest of the players were too young and inexperienced OR they were 4th liners like Blunden, White and Moen. Not going to impress the coach with offensive play with that strategy.

      Even on defense, only PK Subban was capable of offense. On the PPs, you had Gorges and Bouillon (why Therrien thinks he’s an offensive defenseman is beyond me)… right… that’s going to produce results.

      LL was stuck with White and Moen: two veterans, 4th liners who had no reason to step up their game – which involves very little offensively to begin with. Yeah, LL is going to shine with them. He was given every chance to fail. If he was playing in the Sabres game, he would have looked far, far better.

    • --Habs-- says:

      He’ll be fine! They want him getting better and the only way to do that is playing 20 + minutes a game in Hamiltion. He can’t bet better playing 8 minutes a game in MTL.

      Go HABS Go

  10. Maritime Ron says:

    At last night’s Nashville at Florida game, the ‘official attendance’ was noted as 6,541.
    Looking at the pictures, it would be hard to count 200.
    Never seen anything like that even at a local midnight beer league


  11. Strummer says:

    “If a pre-season game were in my backyard I would close the drapes”

    Bob McCowan’s response when asked yesterday if would be attending last night’s pre-season game in Toronto.
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  12. Strummer says:

    Pre-season hockey is nothing more than a cash grab.

    Too many games in too few nights. Ice the bare minimum of your season-starting roster and disrupt your training camp where you could be working on things that better prepare you for the season.

    Maybe we shouldn’t place too much importance on the outcomes of these games but be concerned about how disruptive it is to getting prepared for the upcoming season.

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  13. Mattyleg says:

    For those worrying about Murray’s speed (or lack thereof), two (2) things:

    1) Were you a person who was crowing for bigger, tougher players? If so, then you have got what you wished for. Bigger, tougher players tend to also be bigger, tougher, slower players.

    b) During his days on RDS, Joel Bouchard had a great insight about Hal Gill: Someone with his size and speed (lack) is exposed worst at the beginning of the season when everyone is fit and fast and keen to work hard, then as the season tightens up, he gets stronger, and finally when the end of season/playoffs hit, he is in his element.

    Who knows, might be the same with Murray. Will he have the same defensive smarts as Gill? Might could do. Also might could not do, but who’s to knew?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  14. Habfan29 says:

    Talk about a bi-Polar site! 2 ex games and already we are done! No chance for the playoffs blah blah blah…. Give me break wait until the season starts before throwing the whole team under the Bus!!! If you think that this team is going deep in the playoffs this year you are setting yourselves up for failure.

    Timo, nuna et al find another team to cheer for because you are clearly not Habs fans most likely leaf fans… instead go post your asinine negativity elsewhere. I wish that HIO would just pull the plug on these 2.

    • Mattyleg says:

      This is my favourite part of this post:

      “Give me break wait until the season starts before throwing the whole team under the Bus!!! If you think that this team is going deep in the playoffs this year you are setting yourselves up for failure.”

      That’s a great part.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  15. thebonscott says:

    Wonder if tokarski gets a shot on friday, can’t be as bad as budaj???

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  16. habs-fan-84 says:

    lol this place is hilarious…for all the wrong reasons.


  17. Les-Habitants says:

    In case anyone wanted a list of who is still in camp:
    G (3) – Peter Budaj, Carey Price, Dustin Tokarski

    D (12) – (Nathan Beaulieu), (Alexei Emelin), Francis Bouillon, Raphael Diaz, Davis Drewiske, Josh Gorges, Andrei Markov, Douglas Murray, Magnus Nygren, Greg Pateryn, P.K. Subban, Jarred Tinordi

    F (23) – (Brian Gionta), (George Parros), (Steve Quailer), Michael Blunden, Michael Bournival, Rene Bourque, Daniel Briere, Sebastian Collberg, David Desharnais, Gabriel Dumont, Lars Eller, Alex Galchenyuk, Brendan Gallagher, Patrick Holland, Michael McCarron, Travis Moen, Max Pacioretty, Tomas Plekanec, Brandon Prust, Martin St. Pierre, Nick Tarnasky, Christian Thomas, Ryan White

    If the name is in brackets, they’re injured.

    Top 6 in D is fairly set, but with injuries to Gio and Parros, I wonder who gets the chance at an audition? My guess is Christian Thomas.

    • Cal says:

      Bournival’s pair of goals MIGHT put him in competition with Thomas for Gionta’s spot.

    • krob1000 says:

      The only surprise for me is Leblanc for St Pierre. The D is pretty well exactly as anyone would have predicted. The only question is how they are numbered. You could in thoery divde that d crps into two NHl calibre d corps.
      Markov-Tinordi PK -Gorges
      Emelin-Diaz beaulieu-Bouillon
      Nygren-Murray Pateryn-Drewiskie.
      They are not strong but they are both passable if you took all 12 and dressed them…neither is a playoff corps but to be able to make 2 whole dcorps that I think are NHL calibre is pretty damn impressive.

  18. Timo says:

    Btw, what did everyone thing of Dietz last night? His first couple of shifts I thought I was seeing Diaz on the ice… then, imho, he actually got better and made a few pretty good puck moving and passing plays.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      lol thanks for the positive post after I mentioned you never make them.
      Turning over a new leaf?

      You are Welcome, HIO.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Luke says:

      I thought he at times overwhelmed by the NHL vets.
      Not so much by foot-speed, but the amount of time he had to make decisions.
      Granted, the vets were some pretty high end talents (Lucic and Krecji) and a HoFer in Iginla.

      My opinion of the Habs Preseason so far:

      I think Hamilton will have a much better team this year.

    • habtastic74 says:

      I felt the same as you did. His first handful of shifts had me wondering how he managed to put up points even in junior. He must have been nervous or something. He didn’t stick handle well, and his passes were inaccurate. As the game progressed he ended up looking really good though. On one PP in particularly he looked awesome. If the Dietz we saw during the 2nd half of the game is for real then he’ll certainty make the NHL one day at least as a 6th guy who does PP mins.

  19. thebonscott says:

    If habs don’t make playoffs and win at least one round, then it is a step backward.

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  20. Propwash says:

    So the team is toast before the season begins… got it. Pack it up everyone, we’re done here!


  21. twilighthours says:

    Of course some of the vets have stunk so far, but are people really this upset about 2 pre-season losses?

    The topic for today might also be the first-round-bustedness of Louis Leblanc. Unless he can turn it around and in a hurry, it doesn’t look like he’ll be an NHL player.

  22. Sportfan says:

    MLB playoff race is heating up in the NL central its getting really exciting with Martin and Morneau on the Pirates I really hope they make it and go deep.

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  23. Sportfan says:

    I’m really happy Cincy won last night against the Steelers, beause with all the depressing comments from Hab fans I don’t think I could handle the Bengals losing either haha

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  24. SteverenO says:

    Does not bode well….

    Josh Gorges playing over 5 minutes on the PP last night.

    Is there any thought at all to ever using Josh Gorges on the PP?

    Surely ANYONE else on the roster could have been “given some PP time , even as a an experiment?

    I would think that the ore-season is the time to see who can perform in different situations. Here’s a news flash… Josh Gorges should NOT play on an NHL PP unit. Ever.


    Steve O.


    Steve O.

    • thebonscott says:

      His point shot is pathetic, a kindergarten kid could stop it.

      Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

    • Maritime Ron says:

      It’s just an exhibition game
      The Dmen dressed last night were Murray-Tinordi-Subban Dietz-Gorges-Bouillon

    • habtastic74 says:

      We don’t have a definite partner for Diaz on the power play, so naturally everyone will probably get a shot. Yes Gorges looked awful, but he had to at least get a chance in the preseason. The worst part of hi. On PP though to me is that he isn’t very good at keeping clearing attempts in the zone.

      Also, Boullion looked much better than usual on the PP and even in general last night.

  25. Habsrule1 says:

    I love how most of you have seen Murray play 1 pre-season game in his Habs career and he’s already terrible.
    I argue with my sens fan friends about how smart Habs fans are.
    I’m going to assume this site does not have the average Habs fans on it, generally speaking.
    At least I sure hope not, otherwise the sens fans are right.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      HR1, I respect many of the posters here, and their hockey knowledge, even though I may not agree with them. But you’d call the fans who boo their first string goalie, then cheer him, then jeer him, then chant his name, smart? I’m proud of my team, and enjoy this community, but I think the average fans are the ones who don’t set up profile pics and jump on HIO after a loss and call for extreme measures. I also think they aren’t that bright when it comes to hockey knowledge. That’s just me though

  26. Timo says:

    I was watching a bit of l’Antichambre yesterday and couldn’t help by feel that something was amiss. Something just wasn’t right with the show. Then I went to brush my teeth, turned the lights off and was about to fall asleep when it just hit me – the show was clearly missing Michael Therrien.

  27. zephyr says:

    the habs do not have a bad team. as others have mentioned, they finished 2nd in the east last yr.. i’m not concerned about the vets playing in exhibition games either. some guys in the nfl play no exhibition games or hardly at all. it’s nice to see how the prospects are doing & to see a few stand out. even so, the maxpax line was good last nite & eller’s line was good sun nite. then we have pleks’s line on top of it. if we get the kind of energy that bournival might provide on the 4th line, we have a very good set of forwards. we may have a def that incl. tinordi, pateryn & emelin (in dec) with pk, georges, markov, diaz & murray. some good size & skill there. still, the 1 guy who will make or break the habs this season is price. I really don’t care about last nite but he has to be more consistent or the habs will struggle no matter who they have out front.

  28. commandant says:

    Organizational Rankings (10-1) are out… and you’ll find Montreal in the group.

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

  29. Sportfan says:

    It will be interesting to see how Fucale plays in Halifax without Drouin, Mackinnon and Frk assuming they all make the big club.

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  30. Eddie says:

    there is usually a reason why a 33 year old d-man with several years of NHL experience is forced to take a 1 year deal at 1.5 million, when his last contract was 4 years and 2.5 million per.

    reason: nobody wants him.

    I have no problem with the “stay at home” defencemen, but in today’s NHL you better not be 2nd or even 3rd to every loose puck because your team will never get out of their own zone.

    I could be proven wrong, and it won’t be the first or the last time that happens, but Murray looks too big and too slow to be effective at the NHL level.

    I think Tinordi is way ahead of Murray in terms of ability already – not in terms of fighting, in terms of playing the game.

    Tinordi is also way better than Drewiske in my opinion.

    I like the way Tinordi plays the game and I would be happy with him in our top 6 to start the season.

    • krob1000 says:

      Tinordi looked good during his stint last year and in perseason looks very good…however, let’s acknowledge that preseason is essentially live practice. Tinordi is not having to deal with every shift being NHL calibre right now. I think he could perhaps step in but it is still a big if and better safe than sorry. Tinordi has looked good but let’s not write off Murray quite yet…..the NHL game is also far tighter and the offense will have less time with the puck. The game was pretty sloppy and there was no pressure on Bruins puck carriers pretty well all night. That is not on Murray. As the pressure and defense tigthens up and the d get more support from more responsilbe defensive play from forwards things begin to change and stay at home dmen become more effective.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      He (murray) seemed to fetch quite a bit at the trade deadline earlier this year.

      Murray has played one pre season game on a new team with rookies. Cut him some slack. The habs lacked depth on D last year and it showed in the playoffs. Tinordi has looked good in the two pre season games he has played and will play NHL games this year when there are injuries. he may also play his way on to the roster for the opener.

      You can never have enough depth especially on D as we all watched last year. Our D is missing Emelin who is one of the teams best hitters and Murray can help in that department and when Emelin is back Murray will be a great 6 or 7th guy.

      Jorges didn’t look great last night either….PK as well (minus the goal). Let’s not get too excited over a pre season game

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • thebonscott says:

      drewiske and murray are tradeable, teams are allways looking for dmen, not a big deal.

      Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

    • Cal says:

      The team can get out of its zone if it has Dmen that know how to separate opposition players from the puck. Most of the Habs group can’t and that’s why they can’t clear the zone.
      Rick Green wasn’t exceptionally quick, but he got the job done. Guys like Diaz, Drewiske and their ilk can’t. Puckmoving softie toffee D is in tough against cycling forwards.

      • Eddie says:

        I’m not sure the 2013 version of Rick Green would make today’s NHL – the game has gotten really fast out there. I saw huge value in Green when he played, but the big, slow d-men are becoming extinct in today’s NHL. They can no longer clutch and grab or obstruct quicker players like they used to. they can’t even use their body in front of the net any more until the puck actually arrives.

        • Cal says:

          I’m pretty sure just about every team needs a Dman like Green. All players adapt to the rules they’re given, but those rules get thrown out come playoff time anyway. Tough, physical Dmen are a necessity in the NHL, in any era.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Murray was brought in to be a 3rd pairing Dman that will play against the other team’s 3rd and 4th liners that usually cause havoc.
      These same pounded our smaller Dmen last year and were in Price’s crease.

      Murray will also become a top 4 PP Unit guy that can block shots and use his size and smarts to gain position and move people around.

      As for the “nobody wanted him” argument, he was just one of several Tier II older players (Brendan Morrow) whose contracts expired while the Salary Cap had a significant decrease.
      Bad timing.

    • Luke says:

      Let’s flip you concern:

      Murray is slow and has next to zero offense. He’s also aware of this.
      Not unlike Hal Gill, Murray has had a pretty lengthy NHL career, always being one of the slowest players on his team.

      He’s a pretty smart player. Murray has had to be to play for as long as he has. He knows what his limitations are.

      So, Murray, (IMO) more than anyone needs the practice and exhibition time.
      He needs to learn what the defensive tendancies of his teammates are.

      He needs to get his timing down and learn when to back off a loose puck (which is earlier than when PK has to back off a puck).

      He knows that if he is partnered with Markov or PK, that they will step forward on the blueline, so he needs to hedge back. So now he needs to fine tune that based on his speed while still offering defensive support to the pinch, and offensive support at the blue line. It’s a step or two in either direction, but slow guys who play hundreds of hockey games figure these things out… usually during the first few preseason games and practices with their new team.

      He’s had 5 days… lets give him at least a full week.

  31. Timo says:

    Remember when JM’s team lost all or almost all pre-season games… same people were saying same things: “it’s only pre-season, it doesn’t mean anything, it’s not an indication of anything”. Same people who were saying with 10 games left last season: “don’t worry, Habs will turn it back on in the playoffs, it’s just a temporary setback, the magic switch will be flipped on”.

    The fact is that Habs are not a good hockey team. They have a great core of young guys who are not fully ready yet and they have a larger group of useless veterans who, at best, are good for the first half of the season (if that).

    And, to top it off, they are coach by Michael Therrien.

    • myron.selby says:

      Ah but the great thing is that no matter what else goes wrong, the Habs always know that you have their back.

    • Strummer says:

      Why DID they hire Therrien?

      I forgot.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

      • Sportfan says:

        Cause Montreal can only hire like 5 coaches because they speak french thanks to the stupidity and sensitivity of the idea that we need a french coach. At one point you start rehiring old coaches, because sometimes it gets boring using rookie coaches.

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        • Strummer says:

          BAF or Best Available Francophone. After Flames hired Hartley

          Habs are more interested in the post-game press conferences than in results on the ice
          “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

        • Timo says:

          There was nothing boring about Randy C being the Habs coach. Look much humor it generated.

      • Timo says:

        Because he had changed. He was new and improved Michael Therrien and he developed the revolutionary Michael Therrien’s Personal Development Program. Was too good to pass on.

    • krob1000 says:

      Timo….they played one real line last night. The first time this line has played together. The Pk sucked and the BRuins line looked dominant…because they are just hat…dominant. That is why they went to the finals. Other than that line and mostly on the pp they Bruins and the hockey in general…looked like preseason hockey. the team is very deep and its biggest strength is is its depth….the ability to possibly be overmatched by a teams top line but win the other three mathcups. That is not he case in preseason.
      Also, the Canadiens have a great cupboard of prospects..but thye are a young group….next preseason they would be much better prepared but rightnow the forwards especially are very young.
      Lsast night truly does mean nothing…..it would have been nice if there was more chemistry with the DD line but it didn’t pan out that way…but I am confident it will.
      If the Habs dress a full lineup and looked like that ….or even half a loineup I ay be concerned but there was essentially one line playing and some grinders.

      • Timo says:

        That’s my point… habs have a good group of young prospects that are not yet ready to pull this team through by themselves. But the veterans on this team are already (and never really were) capable of leading by example or taking this team far. And I am so so tired of waiting “another couple of years”.

        No matter what kind of permutations you use you still have lines that will include DD, Briere, Moen, and hell, even Pacioretty, who’s ability to be a power forward seems less and less likely with each passing season. D, so it would seem, hinges on Emelin’s health even with healthy PK.

        • krob1000 says:

          PAcioretty does not have to be a power forward…he can be a big guywho can score goals and as long as he continues to do that effectively I am fine with that. Briere will be a great pick up….there are few more clutch guys over the last several years. Moen and Dd I am somewhat in agreeance but I am curious to see if DD can bounce back….he may be able to with Briere on that line. This years team should easily be a playoff team and could do some damage but it will all depend on whether or not Eller, and the Gally’s can continue their play.
          Pleks Bourque Gio is the most stable line tha hbas have and hey have not played yet….. If the kids excel the team is as deep as any team. Teh D looks pretty good too and if you add Emelin in it is a top 5-8 d corps.

          • Timo says:

            You know, man, on paper, yes… Pacioretty, Pleks, Gionta, etc look like a legit NHL players. However, Gionta is always injured. Plekanec has been disappearing near and during playoffs for as long as I can remember. Pacioretty hasn’t been pulling his weight since the hit by Chara (it is maybe an excuse and a legitimate one, but it is also a fact that he has been less than fantastic). Moen we know the story, DD we know the story. That leaves the kids like Eller, Gallagher and Galchenyuk. With exception of maybe Eller, Gally’s need good exemplary veteran presence with them and they are not getting it. Bourque is hit and miss and is also injured half the time.

            Defense is a huge worry for me as well because as of right now only Subban can be counted on to consistently deliver. By the time Emelin comes back and gets in the mid season form it might be too late.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Remember when the Habs finished 1st in the division and 2nd in the conference last season?

      Those were good times, eh?

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Timo says:

        I do. I even custom ordered a banner for these 2 occasions and hung it in my Habs shrine.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          You had me until you said you have a Habs shrine. Only fans of teams have shrines of them. I’ve searched through your comments and there is no way you can prove you’re a fan of the Habs.
          Oh I know, you’re a realist. Can’t see one good thing about the team cause you don’t have my Habs-coloured glasses.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • bwoar says:

      The Magic Switch. So much promise, but it always fails to deliver.


    • New says:

      Yeah I remember that. That was the year Markov was out. They only won one exhibition game which wasn’t important except when they pared down the roster for the last few ex games they looked worse. Other than trading players in the middle of games, firing the coach on a game day about a week after Hitch signed with St Louis, hanging a backup coach out to dry, the team never showed a glimmer until Markov came back. Then they ran at a rate that would have put them into the playoffs if it hadn’t been 70 games too late to start. Then everyone on HIO talked about getting rid of Markov. Go figure.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Look on the bright side. At least you wont have to watch any games this year and can focus all your attention on your Family. It all works out in the end.

      Ka is a wheel.

      For Your Life

    • JUST ME says:

      Why do you come here then Timo ? Please end your (and our) sufferings !

  32. bwoar says:

    Let’s see… so far all of the players who’ve taken the most heat from the peanut gallery here have shown poorly: Diaz, Price, DD (who?), and of course good old Josh “Curious” Gorges, superstar of not covering anyone and no longer blocking anything.

    Not only that, but the “Patrick Roy” defense has been invoked already… “Not even PATRICK ROY could do anything behind that defense!” (Baloney. Newsflash: Waite will not be able to fix the kid’s tendency to let in crap goals.)

    Not a good sign, but the bright spots among the kids (McCarron, Tinordi, Pateryn, Bournival) are at least encouraging.

    I’m gonna try and give the vets the benefit of the doubt as the kids have been skating for a while, but that’s 2 games where the 3rd liners have shown better than the NHL pros. And Iginla (how I will hate you forever!) & Co. didn’t get the memo about being a step behind.

    Let’s hope the X’s and O’s sink in sooner rather than later; as for the goaltender, what else is there to say? He’s gonna be run outta town by Xmas if he doesn’t show up.


    • twilighthours says:

      So much anger…

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Actually, a goalie coach’s job is to fix a kid’s tendancy to let in crap goals.
      Price has been left to himself a lot in his career. No defense has really stepped up to clear the crease. It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact. I don’t love Price or care who’s in nets really, but I do have eyes and can see.
      It sounds like you actually think those 2 pre-season games meant something. Just so you know, they didn’t.
      I think Price will be better with the defense we have now and will have in the coming years: PK, Tinordi, Beaulieu, etc. It’s finally looking bright on the back end. If not, so be it. Fucale may have to take over in a couple years.
      I also think the team will be better than last year, meaning the puck should be at the other end more than in our end. The Gally’s and Eller should be even better, not to mention PK’s development, etc, etc.
      I feel good about the team, and I’ll still feel good if they lose every pre-season game, as long as the last couple are well played and show that the team is ready for Game 1.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • bwoar says:

        He lets in a lot of goals that simply go right through him. No screen, no traffic, just a puck that seems to magically find its way past him when it’s very, very stoppable. Those goals. Those are he ones that Waite will not be able to do a thing about. It’s not always the fault of the goalie coach, or defensive shortcomings. But that’s the mulligan Price just keeps getting handed. I can’t help it, I am tired of it.


        • Habsrule1 says:

          Again, those are the types of goals that Waite will work on. If it’s concentration, that can be worked on.
          If you’re saying he can never stop easy shots no matter what, then I think you’ve never had a decent coach or teacher in your life.
          People are paid to help others improve. No reason to think that aspect cannot be improved with work.
          Anyway, we agree to disagree on that, but I agree that he’s running out of time to show his potential.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  33. New says:

    That Bruins line of Krejci, Lucic, Ignalia and little Krug back there looked good. I think there is some of that in McCarron. He goes to where he is supposed to, isn’t afraid of a hit, and puts the puck to where it is supposed to go. A lot to be said for making the other guy chase the puck rather than you skating around like a moth to a light.

    Sorry to see Fournier sent down so quickly but he didn’t get any special teams time and the writing was on the wall there. This guy will be back, maybe not with the Habs, but he’ll have a career. Smart player.

  34. Wintercount says:

    By the #’s 200 x 85 don’t work Anymore.

    2 = number of sons Zdeno Chara has that are playing the hockey.

    5′- 10″ and 6′-0″ = size of both his boys.

    6 and 7 = their respective ages.

    15′- 4″ and 15′- 6″ = projected wing spans

  35. Maritime Ron says:

    @ oldschoolhockey

    Your Carey Price post was painful to read, yet right on the mark.

    This is the year he must step up.
    This is the reality year.
    Enough of the “He is young” or “He doesn’t have a good team in front of him” excuses, and the word “potential’ is also painful to hear.

    With few exceptions, Price has not performed well and has been brutal in the playoffs – yes, even that 7 Game OT loss to Boston 2 years ago when the Habs lost 3 of the last 4 games in OT.
    It’s all about making the Big saves at the Right Time…

    Apart from that playoff year, he has been one of the worst playoff performing goalies posting SPs of .894-.890-.898-.901.
    You go nowhere and win nothing with that!

    As for the ‘he has potential’ argument’ and ‘he has won at every level’…so has Hamilton goalie Dustin Tokarski that won a Memorial Cup and MC MVP- and World Junior Gold-and an AHL Calder Cup…

    – 24 year old Sergie Bobrovski played on a not so good Columbus team, yet managed to win the Vezina and was 1st in SP and 3rd in GAA for all NHL goalies that played at least half of their team’s games last year.

    – 24 year old Braden Holtby is 10-11 in the playoffs with a sparkling overall .931 SP and 2.04 GAA on a Washington team that is not considered Defense First.
    Price’s overall playoff record is 9-17, .905 SP, 2.90 GAA

    – Quick is only 27 years old – Rask 26 -Crawford 28…..

    • Cal says:

      Shhh! Pricebots hate reality checks.

      • Maritime Ron says:


        It would have been great if the Habs management had done the Jonathan Bernier deal to at least have some internal competition.

        The Leafs lost a tough 7 game series against Boston
        Reimer played extremely well posting a .923 SP during those games along with a season record of 19-8-5 and .923 SP 2.46 GAA.

        That proved not good enough for Leafs management, and there was no mollycoddling going on…

        The Leafs gave up a 2nd round pick, Ben Scrivens (Budaj) and Matt Frattin – a 25 year old forward with some upside that has played a total of 82 NHL games(15 goals)

        The worst case scenario would be Price becomes the goalie several believe he can be, then Bernier becomes a tradeable asset with at least the same return if not more while Fucale takes the 3-5 years to get NHL ready

        • Cal says:

          I agree wholeheartedly. However, the draft pick of Fucale + Tokarski in Hamilton will hopefully provide the impetus Price needs to become the elite goalie so many think he will be.
          Some real competition would have been nice, though.

      • Luke says:

        I know it’s fun to just dump on Price and the “Price-bots”, but what’s the reality?

        That Price is the same age or younger than Quick, Rask & Crawford. All three of whom play for Stanley Cup champions and perennial contenders?
        That Bobrovski had a monster year (and he did, no arguement), the year after being ditched by a team that desperately needs goaltending (and he was)?
        And we can mention he had the year with a team that has already had a young goalie who had one monster season and is now looking to jump start his career.

        The reality is also this:
        The Next Big Thing Bernier is about the same age as Price. Having played only 60 career games…
        The “1st (of 3) Greatest Goalie in the World during last year’s playoffs” was Craig Anderson. Who played phenomenally well… on his 4th NHL team, in his 10th NHL season.
        Tim Thomas, a previous “Greatest goalie in the world” didn’t even show up until he was 31.
        (To add a Leblanc being washed up perspective):
        Everyone’s poster-boy for awesome and “best player in the world” was Bickell. The 27 year old who had played about 30 NHL games by the time he was 25.
        Kadri was drafted in the same year as LL, was touted as a much more offensive player and a better pro prospect. He just became an NHL regular, last season. A season in which Leblanc was rehabbing injuries.

        People get too excited about potential, yes and then too low about perceived failures.

        So, what is the reality?

        I think it’s this:
        Price is a more than capable NHL goalie, amongst the better ones in the league. He’s not, however, at the top of his peer group.

        He’s an NHL veteran at an age where many goalies are just breaking into and establishing themselves as regulars.

        Here’s another reality:

        Around here it’s more fashionable to react wildly or in absolutes as opposed to be patient and reasonsable.

        It’s easy to focus (harp relentlessly) on the negative. You get to say “I told you so” or “I’m happy I was wrong.” Win/Win. well, lose/lose… but you get the point.

        Price-bot? No, I’m not. But I am a realist. Hang on to Price until you have a better option. ONLY when you have a better option do you make the change. Same goes for Galchenyuk and the rest of them…

    • Appreciate the compliment, even though it is painful to read. I’ve been watching this team since the 1960’s. Lived the bountiful 1970’s and have been in pain for the last 20 years. Just how long can an organization support an expensive inconsistent major piece of a puzzle? Is it possible he performs exceptionally well with another team, like The Ducks (he’s more Hollywood than Montreal anyways), sure. Would we get value for him, yes. Is that what the organization is hoping with Fucale? Damn right.

      Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        Yeah what a fantastic idea, get rid of a goalie that most people with hockey knowledge agree is a great goalie, for an 18 year old who has played half of a preseason game. If you’re upset with waiting 20 years without success, why are you so eager to throw away another 5?

      • Maritime Ron says:


        Carey ” more Hollywood than Montreal?”

        His personality and quotes appear as though he is more Minnesota or Phoenix than Hollywood

      • Luke says:

        Good Call.

        Get Price out of here and let Fucale go down the same development path you are lamenting ruined Price.

    • Timo says:

      Price is a problem but so are so many more other players and the coach. The whole team is no good.

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        I think the habs have a great second and third line. I think that Patches is the only guy who would be put on the first line of another (contending) team though. Pleks could fight for number one centre but I think Pacioretty is the only undisputed first liner. That’s our first issue in my eyes. D is slowly fixing itself with our prospects. THEN we can talk about a replacement for Price. Until we have a good team established, Price isn’t the weak link, he’s just the easy scape goat. We could have Quick in nets but we still wouldn’t pressuring teams in their own zone. We’d still be scoring all our goals on the rush after cycling the puck in our own end for half the game

  36. krob1000 says:

    There aren’t many times a stay at home dman really has to skate if he plays within his boundaries and plays positionally sound which is what Murray is known to do…much like Hal Gill. I understand the frustration if you just do not prefer that style of dman…as I myself don’t but when it adds another missing dimension (the toughness), then I can live with it. I had a far harder time with Gill. I understand both are not able to pinch so occasionally you lose a possession opportunity and they both concede the blueline easier but are very strong in tight, in corners and once backed into range where they cannot be beat to the outside.
    If given the choice between Gill and Murray…I would take Murray with the Habs lineup…if given the choice between either of them and a tough stay at home dman who can contribute more offensively? then of course I take that option….but those options are few and far between at that role and point in the depth chart with a salary cap. I look at Mcquaid for Boston….he too moves slow but is tough and intimidating and plays within his game….hsi team has done alright him have they not?

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Big guys usually need some time to find their game.

      Once in a while Douglas Murray will step up and score a very nice goal as he did against the Islanders in the last playoffs


      • krob1000 says:

        Also true….I really didn’t notice him having issues out there ….in fact I thought Subban was our worst d…he made two brutal turnovers and did not have his normal recovery speed…I am wonering if his bulking up has compromised his speed and skating advantage. His hot is still lethal and he will still be an offensive dynamo.

  37. jrs10069 says:

    Turned on the game last night and was thinking “who the f is #6, he looks like a beer leaguer”…then I saw that it was murray and wasn’t surprised. He’d better be shaking the rust off or he’s even slower than I thought.

    See earlier post about friends in SJ saying how bad he is and how the other teams pick on him. My money says he spends most of his time in the press box.

    What happened to pre-season guys trying to make the team? No drive at all, no scrapping etc. Looked like shit.

    Blunden should make the team, Moen needs to retire already.

    I think Briere will score > 20 goals.


    • Kooch7800 says:

      Moen scored a goal by driving the net and was playing physical. That is what he is supposed to do. Blunden skates well but doesn’t finish and isn’t as tough as Moen.

      Briere for the most part was invisible. The line with Patches-DD-Briere was not great. They showed glimmers that they could be ok but they were by no means a dominant force out there.

      Murray was not good and he did look slow but he wasn’t alone.

      It was just a pre-season game and means nothing and these guys are just working out the kinks and getting their games in order and some of the kids have now been sent back down.

      I thought Leblanc was actually one of our better forwards. I didn’t like the way Thomas was man handled on the boards all night. Leblanc is not a heavy guy but he plays strong on the boards

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  38. adamkennelly says:

    new poll question..

    is DD, Briere and Pax the dumbest possible line combination in the history of Habs hockey?

  39. Eddie says:

    How about this for stirring the pot a little.

    Marc Bergevin, 20 year NHL veteran defenceman, has chosen Davis Drewiske and Douglas Murray to come in as NHL depth.

    They both are looking terrible.

    Hal Gill is quicker than Murray and Drewiske does not look like an NHL player.

    Pot officially stirred and shaken.

    • True. Gill was painfully slow as well and often out of position and these two are just poles to stick on the back end. Think Murray was chosen more for his truculence.

      Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I would have preferred Hainsey, but when we’re talking 7th & 8th defensemen, you rarely get great players.
      If Murray clears the crease and shows some toughness down low, I’ll be satisfied with the signing.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • adamkennelly says:

      pretty sure terrible is an understatement for Murray…there are a lot of terrible players out there who take offense to Murray being called terrible…

    • krob1000 says:

      I missed 1st period but I didd not see Murray looking terrible….I sw the pk looking terrible but it was a forward issue not a d issue as they were giving up the one timers and not getting in lanes. What did Murray do? I hardly noticed him which is exactly what I want to happen.

    • La Duke 16 says:

      Is Murray injured already?? That is the only reason he was not moving around last night.

      We call that “Cone” in my senior league………

    • jrs10069 says:

      Marc must have forgotten how fast the game is now. He’ll remember really quickly when all of a sudden he has 5 guys on his team who can skate with the pros.


    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Come to think of it why did we think Bergevin was better suited at GMing than Bob Gainey?

      • Really? Are we showing some love to Gainey and the Ghost? That is true faith since those two did more to damage the franchise than any pair in the last 50 years! How quickly we forget!

        Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

        • Habsrule1 says:

          Did you forget Rejean Houle & Mario Tremblay?
          A lot of the good players you see on the Habs, you can thank Gainey for them.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  40. The constant support by Sholi2000 and so man other HIO regulars for Price is at times thoughtful and other times just based on pure faith. ESPN came out with their top 25 NHL goaltenders and our savior #31 was sitting where he should be at number 11. Frankly he could be a couple of notches lower. That still puts him squarely in the middle of 30 teams that are elite in the world.

    That being said, those that criticize him for his up and down and at times day dreaming play, shouldn’t be roundly thumped (with some exceptions as true trolls of course). HIO should be a forum for hockey talk, ideally about “our” Habs. Price is a lightening rod because of his position and importance to the team. His inconsistent play suggests that he should see the same sports psychologist that Eller saw last year.

    Pros of Carey:
    Size – Covers net well
    Conditioning – He’s a work-horse (but his play should be limited to 60 games)
    Technical skill

    Cons of Carey:
    Distractions seep in
    Glove hand
    Five hole
    Stick handling (yes, many goalies have that problem, ‘cept he often gets caught out of position when trying to clear. I’m always on edge when he comes out of the net)
    Sometimes looks disinterested

    Have I summed it up well and after 6 years as a pro, how much more improvement will we see, if any?

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Price has had some brutal defense in front of him for most of his career, giving him little to no help or protection. It seems that is slowly changing so he should have a few years with better defense to show what he can do.
      I don’t think Patrick Roy would have done all that much better with the defense Price has had.
      That said, as the defense improves, he better improve too. Fucale may be closer than we think.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Bingo! I feel the same about Fucale. Unfortunately, sometimes a player needs a change of scenery to improve and Price seems to have that problem, what with not being able to shop without being accosted. Look at Bobrovsky the youngest on the list of top goalies. He went from stinker to stopper in one year. Other presumed young stars like Crawford, Rask and Quick are close in age and experience to Price, but seem to be more consistent and that is key. Price might fetch some great scoring talent that we need if Fucale can rise in a couple of years. Just look at poor Luongo with similar issues to Price. Vancouver had it’s hands full with that toxic contract and had to trade it’s rising star. Will be interesting to see what happens.

        Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

        • Trisomy 21 says:

          I hope this is a joke, if we trade Price and hang on to an 18 year old we’re going to be in this same “X is still maturing look how bad Y was when he was 22” boat. We will have no chance for another 5 years. Hang on to CP until Fucale is ready, that’s a much better choice.

          I on the other hand think it’s not easy to find a goalie of the calibre most of Price’s criticts seem to be looking for. Gambling that Fucale is one of those goalies is a big risk

    • krob1000 says:

      I was watcing Corey Schneider the other day and he handles long shots through traffic by standing up….trying to locate the puck that way and then making his move. Habs goalies always go down early and try to locate, but in a game where everyone now blocks shots the puck often gets ping ponged around and the Habs goalies are often on their knees trying to locate the puck and cannot move laterally or adjust when it bounces to the other side,etc. Not sure what is right because I get the theory of taking away the bottom but it sure does create chaos and panic whenever the long shots come through traffic the way the Habs goalies have been playing them…watching Schneider the other night was what made me think of it because he seemed to have an easier time standing straight up trying to locate the puck and then adjusting. Price is a tall guy…might be a better option for him ? goalies out there? what do you think?

      • I prefer when Price stands up. When he drops, there does seem to be a lot of flopping around and when you’re on your knees, it’s harder to position because your skates aren’t on the ice. Hoping new goalie coach Waite can get into his head and let him use the calm demeanor he has to make the stops look easy which he does sometimes. That would be sometimes!

        Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • Luke says:

      I was surprised to see the stick handling mentioned as a con, as well. Price is lauded amongst the best stick handling goalies in the league. His long passes to forwards to catch teams on line changes and his ability to clear the puck aid the team greatly.

      As for the remainder of OSH’s Cons:

      These two:

      Distractions seep in
      Sometimes looks disinterested

      Are really just an impression OHS has from looking at him. You can’t really quantify if he’s distracted or disinterested. Just because he isn’t flopping around and racing back and forth and hooting and hollering doesn’t mean he lacks focus. I agree with FH on this. He’s calm, not distracted. He’s not tweeting out there…

      The next cons are Glove hand & Five hole

      5-Hole? Not sure about this one. I’ll leave that for someone else to discuss.

      Glove Hand: Pet peeve of mine.

      Everytime a goalie gets beaten high glove everyone starts to yammer on about it being a ‘weakness’ and that players ‘know to shoot high glove on goalie X’

      Yes most shooters aim high glove. I would think most direct shots are aimed at the top corners because it so difficult to get a puck through to the net low and on the ice, let alone past a goalie there.
      More shots up high = more high glove goals. It’s not a goalie’s glaring weakness… it’s the most available portion of the net.

  41. JUST ME says:

    Not surprised that Leblanc is being sent back to the Bulldogs cause he needs the ice time,needs to find his confidence back end needs to dominate as he did throughout his career. Unfortunately he graduated way too fast in MTL due to injuries and poor management. He should have been sent back after a while in Hamilton. Word is he has a great attitude this season ,he is top shape and ready to fight so let him do so at his level. He is just a kid.

    Can someone cut Timo ?

  42. frontenac1 says:

    Pre Season? Pffttt! It’s Bowmore in the morning, Laphroaig for lunch and. Langevulin and Pints the rest of the day and Night. Slainte Amigos!

    • ABHabsfan says:

      No THAT’S training camp! What do you do for play-offs? Absinth?

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

  43. DipsyDoodler says:

    Who do you THINK will be on D against the Leafs on opening day? And who would you like to see on D?

    Guarantees are PK, Marky and Gorges.

    That leaves 3 spots plus one in the press box.

    Beaulieu is out probably because of that injury (even if he heals he won’t have had enough time to win the spot ahead of Tinordi).

    So 4 from Diaz, Bouillon, Murray, Tinordi, Drewiske and Pateryn?

    I would pick Bouillon as the most reliable of those 6.

    Tinordi is clearly being given every chance to win a spot.

    Murray looked bad, but it is hard to sit a guy you just signed as a free agent.

    Drewiske has no role to play on this team.

    Pateryn would have to be picked over Tinordi and that seems unlikely.

    Diaz will need to play better in the next few games to get one of those spots.

    • Les-Habitants says:

      Agree with your assessment, except that Murray will be on the team and I think he’ll play well for us (remember Gill’s slow starts?). Despite his lack of foot speed, his reputation as a nasty defender and ability to clear the front the next will make sure that he’s in the lineup…most nights. Bouillon was one of our most consistent defenders through last season…it’s when we started pressing him into top 4 minutes, and time on both the PK and PP, that his play started to drop.

      Diaz did look rough, but he’ll be starting on opening night as well. Pateryn is my bet to make the team over Tinordi – he’s more polished at this stage in his career, although it seems that Drewiske has the inside track given his one-way contract.

    • Cal says:

      Murray has nothing to do in an exhibition game except to use it as preparation for the spot he will have next to Markov.
      Boullion is pretty much guaranteed a spot as is Diaz.
      I am dismissing Drewiske as he just doesn’t have it. Pateryn and Tinordi will fight it out for the last spot, but I’d rather see Tinordi getting 20 minutes plus per game in the AHL instead of riding the pine in Montreal.

  44. Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

    We desperately need a Bobby Ryan or someone of his size and skill set on the right wing. McCarron (if he pans out and from what I’ve seen there’s a good chance he will) in a couple of years away. Can we get by with what we have till then? Or do we try and swing a deal for someone now? Who comes and who goes in the exchange?

    • JUST ME says:

      9 regular players are in their last year of their deal with the Habs. Many changes are coming up so i say we wait and mostly let the kids grow and learn at their own level of hockey,be it junior, american league or european league.

      • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

        Good point. So go with what we have and hope for the best. Which probably won’t be good enough for a playoff spot. I can live with that as long as I see some progression with the youngsters. And that’ll only happen if they get more TOI. Think MT & MB have the nuggets to play the kids ahead of the vets? Or does the pressure to make the playoffs prove too much to resist?

        • JUST ME says:

          So far Bergevin seems to insist on making sure the kids get all the right tools to develop. Take Leblanc`s case for example. It will puzzle many fans but it is the best move for Leblanc as an athlete to be sent back down to Hamilton. He should play many minutes with guys of his age and his level of development.

          I can see many veterans being traded after the olympic break either to be replaced later by other veterans or by deserving youngsters. But then again it all depends on the habs results, injuries and god knows what else.

          I am not sure about the habs making it in the playoffs but i was not last season either so…

  45. zephyr says:

    I thought dd played a good game last nite. he’s still very young too. i’m amazed that he can handle himself so well along the boards. that line was the only one we had that could play. georges looked like he was playing more physically. has he added some muscle? dietz played well. I can see bournival centering the 4th line perhaps.

  46. habsfor25 says:

    Did morrow retire? Haven’t heard about him in a while

  47. DipsyDoodler says:

    Louis Leblanc stands out amongst the players cut. The others are almost all teenagers, plus a couple of depth players for the Bulldogs. He is the only nominally NHL bubble player who got cut, and he got cut before the start of the real training camp.

    It’s pretty clear he’s behind Dumont, Bournival and even Thomas. I have to say I’m a bit surprised he wasn’t given another game before being cut.

    It really looks like it’s over for him in Montreal. Otherwise they would have kept him until next weekend at least.

    • JUST ME says:

      It is not over for him. He graduated way to early in his career because of circumstances,injuries and poor management. He is still a kid and needs icetime in Hamilton to build his confidence back. Good move.

  48. Hobie Hansen says:

    Wasn’t glued to the TV but took notice of a couple things.

    That was definitely a softy on Price. He did look more aggressive at the start though.

    Tinordi started off great, was beaten a few times in the middle frame but overall played pretty well. He’s a stronger skater and stick handler than I thought.

    I think Murray was out there for a few goals against and he’s definitely slow. Lets just hope he’s Hal Gill slow but with a temper and he was just shaking the rust off last night.

    Was a little surprised Leblanc was sent down so quick as he seemed to have some jump last night.

    • JUST ME says:

      Defense was bad yesterday. P.K (twice) and Tinordi gave up the puck for breakaways and they were the best guys on the ice ! I like Bouillon he has a huge heart but yesterday he was not up to par.

  49. Maritime Ron says:

    Good Morning morning crew

    Caught a bit of the ‘game’ last night and it’s sometimes difficult to remember that it is NOT the regular season as coaches and management have their own agendas – or as Coach Therrien mentioned post game ” At this point it’s not about Team concept-it’s about evaluating players”

    In reality the Habs have only a few decisions to make as the roster is basically set.
    Does Tinordi start the season with the big club?
    Who replaces Gionta/Parros Short Term on the roster if they can’t begin the season…or if there are other injuries?

    As for Louis Leblanc and the overall 2009 draft, with the exceptions of Tavares (1st) Duchene (3) Kane (4) and perhaps Ryan O’Reilly in the 2nd Round, this may go down as one of the weakest drafts in history concerning real impact players.

    Leblanc was drafted 18th, and only 3 players drafted AFTER him have played over 100 NHL games in 4 seasons of play.
    There should be little to no expectation he will ever be Top 6. He ‘may’ get to the NHL, but a 3rd line might be his ceiling.

    • habs12 says:

      players drafted before Leblanc that year:
      – tavares
      – hedman
      – kane
      – b schenn
      – ekman-larsson
      – kadri
      – jared cowen
      – kulikov
      – nick leddy

      Players drafted after:
      – chris Kreider
      – john moore
      – tim erixon
      – marcus johansson
      – simon depres
      – ryan o;reilly
      – kyle clifford
      – jakob silfverberg
      – marcus foligno

      All to say that this was not that weak of a draft…

  50. Habsrule1, I know you are a positive fan of the Habs, but if we lose every pre-season game, you along with most everyone else will be opening-up their bunker doors, preparing for a long season.

    Glad to be back from a long summer of no hockey.

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • Sportfan says:

      You know if the Habs lose all their preseason games people will worry, but until the regular season actually starts and we see important games played I’m not that worried.

      Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • Luke says:

      Oh, many years ago, the Habs dominated in the pre-season. Recchi – Turgeon- Damphousse put on a clinic.

      Then the season started and the Habs sucked.

      It’s the preseason. The only truth we learn from it is that we have an insatiable appetite for hockey and that no matter how tightly Gary Bettman and the Owners squeeze our wallets, a few more dollars always seem to drip out.

  51. The Jackal says:

    If we keep this pre-season up, we won’t qualify for the regular season.

    MB, please trade ________, ________, ________, & ________ for Malkin/Nash/Giroux/Toews/Weber. DO IT MB! I KNOW YOU CAN!

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  52. Habsrule1 says:

    I know most of you are sane, but for those who are not, the coach and players are just trying different things. That’s what pre-season is for. Price is probably thinking of some changes that Waite has taught him. With a new goalie coach, he’s bound to be thinking and trying different things.

    It’s pre-season. I honestly would not be a bit worried if the Habs lost every pre-season game. Only the last 1 or 2 will be even the slightest bit indicative of the team we’ll see this season.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • The Jackal says:

      This post is too positive after 2 losses, get with the program!

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        And as meaningless as these games are, I’m pumped to be at The Bell Centre on Saturday night!

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • habstrinifan says:

      Apart from having rookies and new acquisitions in the line-up what is ‘NEW’ that Therrien is trying?

      I am giving everybody a pass from he last two games. But I am also being realistic and place accountability.

      The HABS are ‘off’ till weekend I think. Therrien has cut the camp to a manageable size. He has a good many days of practice and when the next game starts we SHOULD see either the ‘new’ things he (and players have practiced on) or we should see the OLD things being executed better.

      New thing in my book…line combinations which reflect a switch from ‘hoping these players find stride together’ to execute or lose your spot on top lines.

      Acceptable old things…the worn and tried line combinations which he has utilized so far showing a difference in style/play which PRODUCES.

      kEY WORD…produces!

      In today’s hockey if a coach cant practice/align/teach/observe/ his players to produce… then he is not a good coach.

      Our PP/PK/’key offense’ needs coaching.

  53. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning everyone. A “chill” in the air this morning. Tinordi is making any decision to send him down very difficult. He was solid again last night and was also a lot more physical. There’s a lot to like about his game.

    Not sure I am in love with the Gorge’s-PK pairing.

    White looked like someone fighting for a spot on this team. I liked him a lot last night.

    Bournival has a big lead on Dumont but Thomas is still in the hunt.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I agree with 99% of your post Jim. My only disagreement wasThomas. I though he played small out there. On the boards he was tossed around like a rag doll. He will need to work on that if he wants to be playing on a team with small forwards.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  54. L Elle says:



    He misses a shot and is on his knees
    He seems like he doesn’t care
    But He has wonderful hair
    And dimples everywhere
    And he doesn’t keep it simple
    He stares lazily in the air
    I even heard him singing with Cabby
    He’s always late for practice
    But his sucktitude is real
    He’s always late for everything
    Except for every deal
    I hate to have to say it
    But I very firmly feel
    Our goalie’s not an asset to the Habby’s

    I’d like to say a word on his behalf
    Goalies make me cough

    How do you solve a problem like Goalie
    How do you catch a puck and pin it down?
    How do you find a word that means Goalie?
    A pain in the a$$! A money grubber! A clown!

    Many a thing you know you’d like to tell him
    Many a thing he ought to understand
    But how do you make him play
    And listen to all you say
    How do you keep a puck in his glove hand?

    Oh, how do you solve a problem like goalie?
    How do you hold a lazer shot in your hand?

    When I’m watching I’m confused
    Out of focus and bemused
    And I never know exactly what I’ll get
    Unpredictable as weather
    He’s as flighty as a feather
    He’s a darling! He’s a demon! He’s a ham!

    He’s a big fat pest
    Drive a D man from his rest
    He could throw a whirling slapshot out of whirl
    He is crazy. He is mild!
    He’s a riddle! He is blind!
    He’s a headache! He’s not able!
    He’s no pearl!


  55. Cal says:

    It would have been good to see more compete level, speed and intensity from the AHLers and CHLers in the lineup last night. The game against the Sabres was more watchable.
    I expected a few more cuts, but the next round of them will come soon enough.


  56. Bill says:

    Intelligent and reasoned posts today from Sholi et al discussing Leblanc’s career to date with reference to players picked after him in the first round and missing a year of AHL development. Some rational at least posts as well which decline to write off Carey Price for allowing an iffy screen goal in his first exhibition game.

    After that, a lot of nonsense being posted by folks who’ve apparently had way too much caffeine (or possibly something harder), imploring MB in panicked tones to immediately trade Leblanc (he’s a bust and bringing down the whole team) and Price (he’s got ADD! He’s bringing down the whole team!) and DD (forget about that beauty assist, his height is bringing down the whole team!!).

    Real hockey may not be back, but the real HIO is! Lets all drink a nice cup of Calm Down, ok?

    • TommyB says:

      There are so few things in life that you can really count on, but nonsense comments on HIO is definitely one of them.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      If only there was a site where you could just discuss hockey, make the odd joke when things are going bad, even call for the trading of underperforming players once in a while.

      But here it’s like having a discussion with a few friends in a room full of chimps.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I suspect there is much consuming of beverages that aren’t coffee during games, judging from the comments. I find it quite irksome/

    • mmmmmm I love calm chowder, oh Calm not Clam……oh man now I have to go make some chowdaaar 🙂

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    • Mustang says:

      Bill, I totally agree. It is the pre-season and the coaches are taking a “look” at as many players as possible. The win/loss thing is meaningless except to the obsessive fans that live and die with every goal.

    • The Jackal says:

      It’s HIO, Bill, welcome to panic country.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • slyCH says:

      Initially I was shocked when I saw Leblanc being sent down so soon, my thinking was he’d have a longer stay to pump his morale, but then I knew he was labeled bulldogs from the get go so, better sooner then later. If he stays healthy and continues progressing then we’ll see him with the big club soon enough. I hope he has better luck health wise this season.

  57. Eddie says:

    Really not at all happy with the fact that Leblanc was cut so early, but I’m not surprised.

    He wasn’t making the team, and Bergevin / Therrien didn’t want the media focusing on him any more than necessary.
    I’m starting to think Leblanc’s days here are numbered.
    And the feeling is mutual.

    He will hopefully get a chance to play with some good players in Hamilton; an AHL line with he, Thomas and Dumont could not really compete last night especially since every second shift they were faced off against Lucic! Are you kidding me?
    And Leblanc doesn’t back down an inch, draws a penalty from Lucic, and still gets cut.

    Like I said. Leblanc was Gainey’s pick.

    He might be hoping for a trade to Dallas this morning, or to another team that actually lacks depth at the center position. He does not look like an NHL player on the wing. The experiment on the wing is failing just like it did for Eller and like it did for Plekanec when he first wanted to break into the NHL.

    • thebonscott says:

      There is always next year, he is not ufa

      Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

    • mksness says:

      leblanc isn’t that good of an nhler. it’s rather simple. let’s hope he can be productive in the ahl and be ready for a call up if need be.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I’m not surprised either. I thought Louie played a very sound game last night. There wasn’t anything on the ice that I saw that would make me think it was worthy of a quick demotion so I’m thinking it was a move which was predetermined. Perhaps a bit of lesson to be learned from his less than stellar performance last season (even before the ankle sprain).

      Eddie, while I normally agree with your post and I always respect what you say you lose me a bit with the “pick of Gainey” somehow playing a role in this. I’ll believe it’s all performance based and development driven as opposed to some prejudicial treatment due to the kids heritage of draft selection.

      • Eddie says:

        GM’s have “their picks” and that is a factor in how players are moved up and down. Leblanc was given 40 NHL games right off the bat under Gainey and Gauthier. McCarron will also be fast tracked to Montreal. It’s human nature to favor your own selections at the draft.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          Like Gallagher, Tinordi, and PK? The point I’m trying to make, and rather poorly I might add, is Leblanc’s failure to advance quickly is more to his play then anything else.

          • Eddie says:

            Your point is very well taken and very clearly stated. I agree with you that for the most part, the best players make it.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Lebust will be fine. He had a good camp, by all accounts, and played a good game last night. I’m sure they told him something like: “you’re on track – keep it up – work hard – see you soon” …that sort of thing.

      With Gionta, Briere and Gally on the team, this is not a make-or-break year for him. That will come next year.

  58. jrshabs1 says:

    #31 has had 3 pro goalie coaches in his career. Nobody can fix the weak 5hole. Nobody can fix the bad goal either. The mollycoddle approach doesn’t seem to work, maybe it’s time for the old M.T. to make a comeback? #31 needs to be told very loudly to PAY ATTENTION TO THE GAME!! We have watched Carey Price play brilliantly at times over the last 6 years, we have watched #31 stink the the whole barn out so bad that we went to bed cursing #31 before we went to sleep. Maybe he needs a focus coach or, maybe he needs shock therapy?
    It’s preseason and a meaningless game…but , the whole season depends on what type of goalie #31 decides to be.

    Ryan White looked good last night.

    Go Habs Go!!

  59. thebonscott says:

    On the negative side, how would you like to be max pacioretty, and have to play on a line where you have to handle all the puck retrieval. Haveing DD centre that line is infuriating. Put Briere at centre and scratch/trade/demote/ostracize DD please.

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  60. thebonscott says:

    I have to believe leblanc will be fine, missing last year did not help his development. He has room to grow his game in hamilton, habs can wait another year on him for sure. Any spot on opening day roster, would have to be favored for bournival at this point, or a nine game tryout for mccarron. Although, i really like bournival.

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  61. Bim says:

    I think the time has come for Canadiens to either fish or cut bait with Louis Leblanc. They obviously believe he’s not the player they thought he was when they drafted him. They need to move him to another team now and quit wasting everyone’s time. He’s not going to be a flashy player and just another checker at best so let’s move on.

    • He’s the perfect AHL player right now, and a great filler with the Bulldogs. He’s no better or worse than almost every single player drafted after him. Keep him a few more years and see if he turns into magic.

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    • showey47 says:

      Why would you give up on someone who hasn’t even finished his entry level deal yet? He played well in his first year in both Hamilton and montreal. Last year was pretty much a write off for him after he suffered his high ankle sprain.The best thing for LL is for him to go to the minors and have a healthy, productive season. Also,trading a player when value is low is poor asset management.

    • Phil C says:

      One of the reasons the Habs have sucked in the last few years was a lack of depth on the farm. As soon as they had a few injuries, they ran out of NHLers in a hurry. 2011 was really bad when they couldn’t even fill the fourth line, having to use Weber on forward (who was barely an NHLer himself), or play 7 D because they had no one else. In the cap era with so much parity, depth is a huge competitive advantage.

      Even if you wanted to trade LL, now would be a bad time as he would have little value. If he can go to Hamilton and have a good season, then you have options.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Well, actually they haven’t totally sucked the last few years, but I agree with your point. The depth has been a major issue and it seems to be getting back on track.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  62. The only thing funnier than watching Carey let in one softy was reading the expected posts from the Halak trolls. If you created a list form the day Halak was traded, you can bet a million bucks who will post after each and every single bad goal Price let’s in. It’s like clockwork and hilarious.

    Louis LeBlanc was sent down. Not a surprise, he didn’t stick out in a good way, or a bad way. There just isn’t room for him yet. I’m not worried about him, to be honest I don’t see anything in him that tells me he will play full time for the Canadiens.

    If you look at that draft year right now, he’s on par with almost every single draftee (after him). No loss, no gain, no worries.

    As for the preseason loss, who gives a rat’s ask me later cause I’m too sexy for this song!

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  63. SmartDog says:

    So who’s still around?
    – Bournival
    – McCarron
    – Colberg
    – St Pierre
    – Desharnais?


    Can you smell what the dog is sniffin?

    • habsfan55 says:

      what did dd do last nite? zilch nothing except fall down all the time… also can’t the coaches tell our forwards that they can’t score when they are all behind the net. no one in front once they get the puck been like that for the last 2 years

      habs fan but will cheer for any team that beats the leafs

  64. habs1992 says:

    Of to School I go, and everyone is going to make fun of me because we are 0-2, Its more then a game.

    I support Carey Price
    “Habs Insider”

  65. pmaraw says:

    .864 save percentage, right on par

    • SmartDog says:

      Price always stinks in the preseason. It means nothing.

      Yah I know, leaving things wide open there.
      Can you smell what the dog is sniffin?

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  66. Marc10 says:

    The Bruins look pretty good for a team that had a very short summer.
    Can’t they sustain it? I doubt it. It’s going to be a tough slog for those guys.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Iginla and Chara aren’t getting any younger, and with a bit of luck their period of dominance might be over soon.

      • Marc10 says:

        They’re not spring chickens… and I suspect it would even be asking a lot of top tier athletes in their prime like Lucic, Marchand, Kreiji, (and a banged up Bergie), a strong support staff like Sonny Boy Campbell, McQuaid and co, and a bunch or rookies to take on 100-odd game season to reach another cup final.

        Me thinks the machine is going to break. It’s too big an ask.

  67. habs1992 says:

    Anyone know if DD got cut?

    I support Carey Price
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    • Timo says:

      No. He is going to have a rebound season. Because people say so.

    • CharlieHodgeFan says:

      Why cut a veteran going into his third full season based on a sophomore slump? Stop being so fashionable (everyone else wants DD to fail too) and spend some time observing…

      You can’t be sure your least favourite Hab will be DD until after the season has started. Remember, dissing Drewiske, Price and Moen are all trending….
      Someone will be universally hated, but the jury’s still out.

  68. JO says:

    I know this is just exhibition Hockey. I also hope this is not the sign of things to come. Oh my if it is. What a long season we are in for.


  69. Timo says:

    It could be just me but the line of Lucic-Krejic-Iginla looks and plays much better than the line of Pacioretty-DD-Briere.

  70. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …well, I read Mike’s blog …it seemed kind of short of His usual game blogs, but I guess He’s like the Team, still working out the kinks from a long summer

    …the Fan comments were schizophrenic as normal, so We’re in season’s form 🙂

    …in 20 minutes the game will be replayed on RDS in Vancouver, so I will look for positives among the Young Guns

    …the Buffalo game a night before was very up-tempo, so the back-to-back for the few that were also playing tonight might have been a factor

    …when I turn on the game in a few moments I will be watching Carey with most of My interest, and Louis Leblanc to what Bergevin and Therrien both saw (or didn’t see in His game) to be cut and sent packing to Hamilton before Bournival

    …I have been predicting that McCarron will follow a time-line similar to Tinordi to get His game to the NHL, so I was not surprised He was impressive in the Buffalo game

    …McCarron needs some strengthening in His skating in open ice, but He is not far away …He has an excellent hockey-sense and size with skill We desperately need

    …I’m almost tempted to trade Moen and keep McCarron to grow starting on the fourth line …but one game might be presumptuous

    …so, will be staying up late here, game replay and Breaking Bad (gotta see what all the jazz is about 🙂 )

    …night Guys

    • habstrinifan says:

      Thanks for the heads up..didn’t know RDS BC carries the game late… will try and catch it.

      Seems you are surprised at LL’s demotion, I am surprised also, especially since most accounts report he played a very good game tonight. Although I wouldn’t say that he usurped Bournival’s performance at camp so far.

  71. Un Canadien errant says:

    With a more rugged, experienced lineup than the previous night against the Sabres, the Canadiens came up short in a training camp drubbing at the hands of the Bruins. Jarome Iginla, trying to curry favour with his new insect overlords, played on a line with Daniel Krejci and Milan Lucic and scored twice. Mighty mite defender Torey Krug added three assists, but was useless because he’s small and soft. Right?

    I caught the game midway through the first period, and while I was dealing with jumpy streams and whatnot, had trouble figuring out what was going on. At one point they were showing lowlights from late last season, they must have been, when Carey Price let in a soft unscreened wrister from the blue line. And I guess there was also a retrospective of the best moments of Travis Moen’s early career, since I could have sworn there was footage of him standing in front of the opposition net disrupting the defenders there and tapping in a short-range goal.

    It was a good thing I watched before dinner too, since this game had a powerful emetic effect, not only due to the sight of Jarome in black and diarrhea-yellow, or the final score, but also to the sight of a proud Subban brother as a Bruin. Peter Chiarelli was trolling Boston hard when he drafted the Belleville goalie, imagine what their stupid racist stupid fans will tweet when he lets in an unfortunate goal. And imagine the back-breaking contortions of the apologists who will claim that those aren’t ‘real Bruins fans’ just casual watchers who happened to be tuned in to the game and care enough to spew their hate on social media. The famously cultured and tolerant ‘real Bruins fans’ will only be silent because they’re busy checking if the Riesling is properly chilled, or jotting notes on this fan’s technique to use the next time they’re at the new Garden (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5098407).

    As previously stated by Michel Therrien, the team cut fourteen players from the main camp after the game, sending Martin Reway, Charles Hudon and goaltender Zachary Fucale back to their junior teams, and forwards Joonas Nattinen, Stephen MacAulay, Stefan Fournier, Sven Andrighetto, Louis Leblanc, and Erik Nyström, goaltender Robert Mayer and defencemen Morgan Ellis, Darren Dietz, Dalton Thrower, and Matt Lashoff to the Bulldogs training camp.

    I guess they want to have a longer look at both Michael McCarron and Sebastian Collberg, since they’re still at camp. They can’t be ‘kept’ in the organization/sent to Hamilton, they have to stay with the Canadiens or be sent back to the London Knights and Frolunda, respectively. Louis Leblanc could take this as a slight, that they stay and he goes, or accept it as a practical reality, that he has a ways to go to prove himself, and that the two kids are special cases that don’t apply to his. What he should worry about, and work hard to overcome, is the fact that Michaël Bournival and Gabriel Dumont are still at the main camp, these guys are the ones he’s really competing with. He showed some good things in the game tonight, he just needs to continue on that trajectory. I have to admit I’m not that worried about him. All the news that have come out of camp in his regard has been encouraging.

    A few fleeting thoughts remain. Nice goal by Max Pacioretty on a feed from David Desharnais and Daniel Brière. Stefan Fournier didn’t wow me with his takedown on Adam McQuaid. Did he have second thoughts, realize he’d bitten off more than he could chew? He’ll need to figure this out in the AHL. He’s up against fully-grown men now, not juniors, that changes things, he ain’t the biggest baddest dude around.

    The refereeing was uneven, with a glaring error on the high-stick call on Gabriel Dumont, which video replay clearly showed never happened. I did appreciate that the refs were aggressive and made more calls than non-calls. I’m not too optimistic though, they’ll tire of this when springtime comes around, the Bruins will be allowed to run rampant then.

    And obviously, Ocho Cinco’s new choice of career won’t be a success. A .605 save percentage, yikes!…

    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons


  72. The Dude says:

    I think MB should of invited Tim Tomas to try-outs in Montreal ! We need a plan B in net that is a proven winner .

  73. Timo says:

    Can someone cut Michael Therrien?

  74. T-roy West says:

    Not sure why Leblanc was cut. I thought he played a very up tempo game tonight.

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