Audio: Blueline swap brings Kaberle in deal for Spacek

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Tomas Kaberle (left) joins the Canadiens with Friday’s trade.
Ellen Ozler, Reuters

AUDIO: Pierre Gauthier (courtesy Rick Moffat, CJAD) | Jacques Martin | P.K. Subban | Tomas Plekanec | Hal Gill | Chris Campoli

The Canadiens have traded defenceman Jaroslav Spacek to Kirk Muller’s Carolina Hurricanes for fellow rearguard Tomas Kaberle.

Kaberle signed a three-year deal worth $12.75 million this past summer. Spacek, making $3.8 million, is a UFA at season’s end.

Canadiens head coach Jacques Martin said he hopes Kaberle will be in the Habs lineup Saturday afternoon in New Jersey. The newcomer is expected to be of help to the team on the power play.

From the Canadiens:

The 33-year old Kaberle played 29 games with the Hurricanes this season. He registered nine assists, 38 shots on goal and 27 blocked shots, playing an average of 19:14 per game.

The 6-foot-1, 214-pound defenceman has collected 538 points (84 goals, 454 assists) in 931 regular season games in the NHL.  He scored 31 goals on the power-play and 16 were game-winning goals. He displays a career +19 plus/minus differential. Kaberle added 39 points (6 goals, 33 assists) in 102 playoff games, along with a +16 plus/minus ratio.

A native of Rakovnik, Czech Republic, he played in the 2002, 2006 and 2010 Winter Olympics. Kaberle was drafted in the eighth round, 204th overall by the Toronto Maple Leafs at the 1996 NHL Entry Draft.

Spacek played 12 games this season with the Canadiens registering three assists. He has a +2 plus/minus differential, with 12 hits and 25 blocked shots, playing an average of 15 minutes and 29 seconds per game.

Since joining the NHL, Spacek has recorded 343 points (77 goals and 266 helpers) and maintained a +45 plus/minus ratio in 846 NHL regular season games.

1,472 Comments

  1. Nobody says:

    This looks like panic mode. Either Markov is toast or it’s a stop gap until he returns, with a prayer they will be able to move him at not too high a price before the UFAs start walking. What’s telling is that those who see an upside,like G&M’s Sean Gordon, have to go to pretty creative lengths to find it.

    • krob1000 says:

      it is panic mode….but the reality is that is where the team is…people knocking this deal should instead be knocking the markov deal…that is what led to this…and we pay him more. this is a fantastic panicmode deal though…i really do not get how people have written Kaberle off after a bad 30 games at age 33, sure he just won a cup and had only 11 asssits in 25 playoiff games…but hey we have better right…oh no we do not. How old is markov…..and he has had how many surgeries…..(my keyboard is messed and I can not use apostrophes and everything is giong to the blue letters on my keys)

  2. HABZ24 says:

    we were going to most likely let spachek go end of the season because hes a dinosaur and not really worth his salary.or could have traded spachek at the deadline, but why lose him for nothing at years end , or wait til the deadline when its way too late to make a difference, great move trading spachek now. kabrele hasnt done much the last few seasons, but lets hope hes an upgrade on spachek, especially with a new 3 yr deal.if kabrele can regain his leaf form its a god deal.

    GO HABS GO

  3. SKHab says:

    If Kaberle is the replacement for St-Denis at least he is bigger 6’01’’and 214 lbs vs 5’11’’ and 182 lbs. That should help with puck battles when the other team cycles and clearing lanes and sight lines in front of the net. I think those are things the Canadiens have needed.

  4. Mr_MacDougall says:

    A lot of people hate this deal, I don’t mind it. You have to think Georges, Emelin, PK, Kaberle, and Markov are a pretty solid top 5 D. Tinordi and Beaulieu have seemingly promising futures.

    Price is an amazing goaltender.

    The top 6 forwards on the Habs earn a whopping 32 million! Pleks, Gionta, Gomez, Cammi, Cole, and AK. I can handle Cole, AK, (being resigned for about the same, maybe some “term”) and Pleks earning near $13mill as a line.

    The problem with the Habs is the $18.5 million invested in Cammi, Gionta, and Gomez for each of the next two seasons (and 3/4th of this year)

    It will be exciting to see how the Habs management invests this money in a couple of years, or sooner if some trades can be pulled off. I wonder what kind of player the Habs will land with the money tied up with Gomez/Gionta? That will be exciting!

    To those that say “blow it up,” I say if that $18.5 “ill-invested” top line forward money could make this team a powerhouse if invested properly.

  5. Muckbringer says:

    we need a little bit of crazy, rider didnt do it, RW will!!

    this is the injured player i miss the most

    • ryan_45 says:

      haha. If that was Toronto who acquired Kaberle they’s be saying it’s a great deal. Funny how less than 6 months ago, it was All day Kaberle watch on TSN, now it’s not even news worthy. I can’t wait for Dreggers next report on Brian Burke’s bowel movements.

      My favorite was Pierre Mcguire’s “expert” Analysis. What a loser

    • Muckbringer says:

      how important is Ryan White? remember lyle odelein?

      im out, skyrim calls

  6. Bill says:

    Haha, Bozo talking heads on TSN slamming Kaberle trade, now I’m SURE I’m right ;)

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Those “Bozo talking heads” were quoting GMs around the league who were doing the slamming. I don’t want to accuse you of having rose coloured glasses on (I know a lot of MTLers hate TSN) but they have a point, it looks pretty desperate.

      • Bill says:

        The criticism was related mostly to the contract, and I don’t really understand why it’s viewed as THAT heinous. Two more years. 4.25 more. It doesn’t compare to Gomez, even if Kaberle turns out just as useless. Which I doubt he will.

        If Kaberle plays 18-20 solid minutes on D and can help the powerplay come to life, it’s a good deal. I don’t think those are huge “ifs” either. He’s a + player over his career, despite spending most of it on horrendous TO teams. At 33, I find it hard to believe that he’s completely lost his ability to make a good pass or transition the puck.

        Granted, we probably needed a shooter more than a passer, but I’m guessing not much was available for a spare part. And he’s definitely a better passer than anyone else on the Habs’ point right now, so I’m regarding it as an upgrade.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • Trisomy 21 says:

          Well the contract is the biggest part about it, of course we would have won the trade if there was no salary cap. We can argue about ifs all day, but I think this money could have been used better elsewhere next season, with all our free agents. Now instead we’re locked in with this guy, which allocates less money to acquiring new additions to the team. That contract could have been split to pay for the raises of Price, Eller and Subban for next season. Seems to me that Kaberle is not worth that by how he has played in the last yea

          • Bill says:

            In the last year? I dunno. Last year he was top five in assists by defensemen. He had 11 pts in the playoffs last year. He had a lot of powerplay points last year, and we could use some of that.

            You might have a case if you talk specifically about how he’s played so far this year. The thing is, I haven’t seen many of their games, and I really don’t know how he’s played. I know Carolina sucks and everyone is having a crap year though.

            If he plays like he has throughout his career, he’s useful. Moreover, his contract is nowhere near as bad as the Leaf fan TSN panel suggests. If he has a productive season, it’s definitely tradeable. But I think he’ll stay a useful player until he’s 35, so I’d just keep him.

            Still lots of money for the players you mention by the way. Especially after Gomez is demoted or bought out.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Trisomy 21 says:

            I was referring to a calendar year which it’s almost been since Boston took him. Look at his regular season stats in Boston. Of course he had 11 points in the playoffs, Boston went all the way, what did they play like 26 games? I know he was playing with Chara in the post season for some time, which helps his stats.

  7. Muckbringer says:

    fn eh. this is what we need. he can score too, who cant with a sweet set up from dd?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mnwaP_DkPE

    this is what we have coming brothers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU7H6AUDWdY

  8. HardHabits says:

    It’s the late 90’s all over again.

  9. Habitant in Surrey says:

    http://www.bnn.ca

    …more than the Kaberle trade, it seems to Me We are overlooking the Bell/Rogers buy-out of the Ontario Teacher’s Pension Plan control over MLSE (aka ‘Weeds’ Nation)
    …so, Bell owns now 20 % of Our Habs ? …37.5 % of MLSE (aka ‘Weeds’ Nation) (in partnership with Rogers 37.5 %)
    …AND, Tannenbaum’s equity leaps to 25 % from 20 % of MLSE (aka ‘Weeds Nation)
    …Bell & Rogers, on the surface, appear as unholy-bedmates …will their intense competitive commercial interests inevitably tear apart their ‘partnership’ in the near future ?
    …the former-OTPP ownership was passive, likely a reason for the ‘Weeds continuing to drift for years aimlessly in the dark …will Bell & Rogers be significantly more pro-active investing heavily to fortify the ‘Weeds marketing-brand, requiring great entertainment improvement of the product on the ice ?
    …will Bell’s dual equiities in both the Habs and the ‘Weeds be conflicting ?, …and will this further push Our Habs to the national Canadian media periphery ?
    …is it in Molson’s/Habs’ interests to remove Bell’s naming rights from Our arena ?
    …is it in Molson’s/Habs’ interests to force-out Bell from it’s equity in the Montreal Canadiens, and Heaven-forbid, look to interest Peladeau’s/Quebecor/Videotron’s interest to replace Bell ?
    …what are the overall ramifications to the Habs’ on-ice and marketing interests of Bell’s co-purcharse of MLSE (aka ‘Weeds Nation) ?

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  10. Stev.R says:

    Now, I think most of the initial overreaction is done with, I think we can all take solace in that the Leafs lost tonight, and we are only 6 points out of first in the division (which is what? One good winning streak). And we have 53 games left in the season. Thats 106 points left up for grabs. I still have faith that we can, and will turn it around. Better to surge late than early…

    P.S. We have lost 7 games in overtime or shootout. If we could have gotten a PP in those 7 games, just 1 each, we would be first in the division. 7 goals decides whether or not we’re winners or losers at the end of the day. That’s it. All is not lost

    • Psycho29 says:

      Winning 4 of those 7 OT losses would have made a nice difference….

      • Muckbringer says:

        serious, cant count a single blessing?

        Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
        Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
        Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
        Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
        Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

    • Muckbringer says:

      parity might not be so bad after all. habs +2 tomorrow. over for sure

      Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
      Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
      Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
      Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
      Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  11. deuce6 says:

    I like Kaberle, he seems like a pretty decent guy. Never hear anything really bad about the guy, does his job to the best of his ability, and he will help our PP. The problem I do have with this deal is will it conflict with re-signing some of our own important pieces. I really don’t want to lose any of our core guys. Namely Gorgres, PK, Price, or AK….But, if Kabs can produce and it doesn’t hurt in our future UFAs, then this was a no brainer for PG…

    Little tidbit of info…When the Leafs asked what 2 teams he was willing to accept a trade to, we were on that list…Hopefully, he is the answer to our sagging PP….

    ——————

    Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

    • Stev.R says:

      Contracts are fluid, Gauthier says it all the time. Any contract can be moved, bought out, or buried if need be. I don’t know how good Kabs will be, but I’m nothing but confident he will have a positive impact on this team.

      • Muckbringer says:

        i agree about your second point, first: not happening so much in the nhl as a whole lately.

        Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
        Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
        Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
        Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
        Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  12. Vid says:

    We gave up an injured 37 year old Dman (Spacek) in the last season of his contract for a 33 year old Dman (Kaberle) with 2 seasons left on his contract. Kaberle has 47 pts (82 games), 49 pts (82 games), 31 pts (in 58 games) in his last 3 seasons. Spacek in his last three seasons had 16 pts (59 games), 21 pts (71 games), and a career high 45 pts (80 games with Buffalo).

    Kaberle has struggled recently but who’s to say he can’t bounce back? Plekanec had a crappy season of 39 pts and the next season he got 70 pts. I would at least give Kaberle one full season before deciding whether he’s a bust or not. $4.25M cap hit over the next two seasons isn’t so bad if things don’t work out.

    Comparing this deal to Gomez is laughable. Gomez deal was truly terrible with a 7M+ cap hit and also giving up McDonagh in the process. At the time of the trade Gomez had a full sub-par season with the Rangers with 5 seasons left on his contract. Kaberle doesn’t even come with one really bad full season.

    Perhaps the Habs could’ve signed Wiz for 6 years at 5M per season but considering his past injuries and the fact that he only had one really great season (with the habs+islanders) would such a long term contract have been any better? I do believe Wiz is more the type of player the Habs need than Kaberle but signing Wiz wasn’t without its own risks either.

    We gave up practically nothing for a player who has shown some good, consistent offensive output over his career and could turn around his current slump and really help out the abysmal Habs powerplay. The potential upside is significant and yes it’s a gamble but the Habs didn’t give up anything significant for it.

    It will make cap managment a bit tight in order to sign UFAs Kostitsyn, Gorges and RFAs Price, Subban, Eller, Emelin next season but I don’t think it will take much more money than we’re paying most of them right now. Moen (1.5M), Darche (0.7M), Gill (2.25M) and Campoli (1.75M) will be off the books and so will the last of Laraque’s bought out contract (0.5M). I’m sure there are teams who would trade for Cammalleri or Gionta to further free up some cap space if it came down to that.

  13. habsfanforever7631 says:

    O my FIng god! Kaberle didn’t even play a minute for the Habs and we’re already destroyin the guy. Can’t we even wate for him to play?
    Deyem!
    We are strugglin on the PP and we brought someone to help, lets see what happens!

  14. Reid Rusonik says:

    This trade has great upside where the only possible downside is two years carrying an overpaid fifth or sixth defencemen. In terms of this year, it’s at worse a wash as Spacek was paid approximately the same to be a fifth or sixth defencemen. It’s an improvement for the rest of this year simply if Kaberle is healthy because Spacek was out of the line-up more than he was in. Then there is the fact Kaberle cannot help but be better offensively this year. If Kaberle can ignite the power play, it could save the whole season and nothing Spacek was going to do could do that. And if Kaberle can ignite the powerplay, imagine what it will be like to have him AND Markov on the powerplay, either paired together or each quarterbacking a wave on the powerplay. If Kaberle is no longer a top four defenceman, we’ll simply be overpaying for a fifth or sixth one for a couple of years or he could be demoted and written-off. That potential cost pales in comparison to the cost to ownership of not making the playoffs this year. Kaberle could make that difference, Spacek can’t, and there’s no one else out there available who could where the price would only be Spacek. We need to ignite the powerplay now. It will be too late when Markov gets back. This trade is a sensible attempt.

    Reid Rusonik

  15. baruch says:

    couldn’t they have traded weber? I will reserve judgement for a few games but… flopped in leaftown, flopped in b-town, flopped in cane-town… this is who you get to shore up our PP PG?

  16. Curtis O Habs says:

    On the bright side; This could be a sign the Gomez contract is going to be buried in the minors. Maybe he retires, refuses, or goes to Europe. That makes it a great trade.

    • Muckbringer says:

      my rough estimate would be that they could bury him for the next 3 year and they would have to reach second round in 2 of them, just to be in the black. (thats without taking on more$).

      Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
      Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
      Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
      Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
      Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  17. Habster says:

    :( , what a joke our leadership team, including ownership is. They live off our history. How this bone head move gets made is beyond me. The Markov contract, the Gomez contract, how do we sign PK and Price. We need the best GM , regardless of language, we need the best coach, we need Molson to get his head out of his you no what…we need the fans to stop going to games

    • Muckbringer says:

      i dont have such a positive outlook either but look at it this way, “BITCHING AND MOANING WILL NOT MAKE YOU GM”

      just enjoy the ride, right?

      Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
      Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
      Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
      Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
      Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  18. edtheh says:

    This is good for us. Kaberle 33 yrs old versus Spacek who will be 38 in February and a free agent next summer.
    Kaberle can pass, lead the power-play and can shoot.
    Expensive but still a decent move.
    Our power play cannot get much worse than it is. This should help.

    Oh yeah, and the Habs, the 2nd most profitable team, can afford this.

  19. JohnBellyful says:

    It’s time to put to better use the torch the Canadien teams keep passing from one generation to the next. The way the franchise is using it now hasn’t exactly set the league on fire.
    Perhaps the answer is to have Canadiens set themselves on fire: a controlled burn, mind you, not the scorched earth policy some might favour.
    Selectively getting rid of the old growth, to make way for the new, is a well-established practice for improving Habitat.
    Sending Spacek would have signaled a start to removing old growth, except the club turned around by planting not quite-as-old growth. It’s Gauthier who’s come across as the sapling in this transaction.
    A true controlled burn would see veterans like Cammalleri and Gionta traded to teams with a much better shot of going deeper in the playoffs and looking to add talent that will immediately help them achieve that goal. In exchange Montreal would receive seeds for the future, knowing that doing something in the present is pretty much past.
    The concern is that Gauthier will do everything to make the post-season and engineer questionable deals that are far from being a controlled burn and will, in fact, cause the club’s long-term solidity to go up in flames, in which case he’ll be nothing more than an arsenist.

    • habfan01 says:

      True- but remember it’s we the fans that demand the club make the playoffs every year.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Yes, that’s a given, but perhaps just as strong is the desire to see the team play entertaining hockey. There is a segment of fans I believe who could handle one, two so-so, even losing, seasons if the team played consistent, competitive, compelling hockey that clearly demonstrated it was a team on the rise. I haven’t had that feeling in a while, at least not for any prolonged stretch.

  20. Habfan4lfe says:

    This is nothing but a lame crowd pleaser. And it’s back fired again. We stand to lose more than gain here. If Kaberle comes and does nothing we gained nothing but a bigger loss of money. The problem is Martin and PG and Gainey. These people have to go, they are ruining this teams chances of getting anywhere. Everyone knows it, from the papers to the radio to the TV to interviews with fans to freaking the whole bloody nation. Geoff wake the F up already and listen to your MAJORITY fans.

  21. Saundies says:

    Wowwww guys dude hasn’t even put on the sweater yet and you’re already crucifying him.. no wonder no free agents ever want to sign here.

    Let him play a couple games before you tear him to pieces and label him “the new gomez”. I’m not saying I think he’s gonna do great but really he can’t be any worse that what we’ve got going on right now; PK’s in the dreaded sophomore slump, Diaz and Emelin are rookies. Gill and Gorges are steady but have no offensive upside at all (I can’t count on one hand the amount of shots i’ve seen gorges get through to the net besides that OT goal this year..love the guy but still). Spacek played good for us this year.. when he played.

    All I’m saying is can’t we give the guy a shot for a couple games? If the PP starts to produce with him on it and it looks like we’re starting to right the ship everybody here will be singing his praises. Boston had a good enough team without him last year and Carolina is terrible this year (look no further than Eric Staal’s stats). Maybe coming back to Canada will be good for the guy.

    Or maybe he was just taken out of the frying pan and thrown straight into the fire. Either way, a lot still has to happen.

  22. Muckbringer says:

    then again, would you care about “g-friggn loves” contract either?

    sorry, little better

    http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tap

    Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
    Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
    Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
    Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
    Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  23. Stev.R says:

    I asked this earlier, but I’ll ask it again. You’re a GM of a team with a passionate fan base that had high expectations before the season began. A third of the way through the season, the team hasn’t done as well as hoped because of top players underperforming, injuries, and a terrible PP. Two of these three things don’t have a quick fix solution, but acquiring a player to help your PP is an option. You need a top level PP specialist, but you can’t give up draft picks or prospects, and you can’t give up your best players because you either need them in the future or they are underperforming and nobody wants them. What do you do? Who do you try to get?

    I think if we look at the situation from this perspective, we’ll see that what we needed is both hard to find, and expensive. We may have taken a bit of a gamble, but aside from two more seasons on a contract (which is easy enough to get rid of if we really need to) and an aging defenceman, we didn’t lose anything.

    I also, expect Kaberle to be good with us. Maybe not 40 to 50 points, but close, and will be useful in situations. I hope you losers who are always so negative realize that your terrible attitudes add absolutely nothing to the team, and only hurt our chances of success. I wish you “fans”, would take a hike.

  24. ihabto says:

    I like that we have a GM that is proactive and makes reasonable moves at reasonable times to try and improve his hockey team. Sometimes moves work out sometimes they don’t. It’s not like there is a bucket full of all-stars and PG just refuses to dip his ladle into it. Every move is a bit of a crapshoot. But this seems like a pretty low risk (like zero) move with a pretty high potential reward (a PP). Shrewd. I know the majority disagree but I don’t really care. I’m just glad something changed and am excited to see how it works out. Something new to be hopeful for. If you already know how it will turn out then don’t ruin it for the rest of us.

  25. SmartDog says:

    Wow. ANOTHER post deleted. I think I’m about to be banned for complaining about deleted posts. Or about this trade. I guess this place is just for always-happy people. This place really has changed. It’s not ‘social media’ it’s ‘socialism media’.

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  26. ont fan says:

    I think all our big contracts all end together Gionta Gomez Cammi Markov Kaberle..I guess that’s when we start again

  27. doogie says:

    It usually works to trade for a player who has “something to prove” to the hockey world and to himself. Hopefully Kaberle comes into Montreal with a bit of that “I’ll show you guys” attitude. He’s going to get a fair amount of ice time on regular shifts and PP, so let’s see what happens.

    At the end of the season, and if he plays like a bum, then it was a brutally terrible trade……I think he gets on track with this team. Maybe 10g and 30a with this team. God knows they need a little help!

    Everyone is writing as if the Habs are a great team and just got shafted on this deal. They suck and their record proves it. They’re not competitive in their conference, so they’d better start trying something different. We’ll find out.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      They suck but I don’t think shooting ourselves in the foot with another big contract is the answer. What are we going to do about all our FAs? Price, Subban, Gorges are all deserving of a pay increase, while AK arguable might get more. Then there’s the EL contracts we have to offer to Bournival and I think Beulieu. What they need is a coaching change, but not desperate moves like this. And what are you implying anyways? because we suck we deserve to grab the shitty ends of all sticks? just because we are losing doesn’t mean that we should take any deal we can.

  28. LizardKing1967 says:

    Look, the way I see it. Geoff Molson is riding out the year (his first full year as owner), watching what the incompetant GM and coach are doing. Whatever happens, happens. We make the playoffs or we don’t, whatever. He’s waiting until the last minute is played in the spring, and then he’ll clean house. No more PG. No more JM. GM will bring in his own people, and he’ll decide how to handle HIS franchise (for it will be his to do what he pleases).

    Good luck Mr. Molson, here’s hoping you do the right thing going forward. CHEERS!

    The Cup is coming home!

    I BELIEVE!

  29. duffy says:

    I would think if Kaberle tanks in Montreal PG will be unemployed.

  30. montreal ace says:

    This trade is just what the doctor ordered for the Habs, a D man who can lead PP till Markov comes back. I have no problems at all with this trade and look forward to his addition to the lineup. I see this as a trade that will have a very positive impact on the team and at the same time costing us very little. Lots of interesting posts, from a trade that is not really earth shattering news. In other news today the team had to get up and go to work…..

  31. SmartDog says:

    Kaberle = the new Gomez.

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  32. Also, as far as this season goes, sure ChupaKaberle isn’t doing well, but neither are the Canes. I mean he’s playing on a team that had to fire its coach.

    Let’s #givekaberleachance… at least 2 or 3 games before we rip him, and the deal, apart.

    http://www.puckbandits.com

    • LizardKing1967 says:

      And he came to another one that SHOULD fire it’s coach. LOL

      The Cup is coming home!

      I BELIEVE!

      • Muckbringer says:

        …..GB + muller?…. its pg that sharted the bed; he must go before jm.
        im thinking about how the players were playing so good because they foresaw gb coaching and jm moving to gm.
        now that gbs gone, as well as muller, they have all lost their drive.
        i would say i dont blame them but it really does start with them.
        next is us. they need us to cheer them and not get on them when theyre down.

        “chill out”

        Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
        Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
        Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
        Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
        Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  33. slapshot777 says:

    My take on the Kaberle trade is, we needed a QB for the power play,since Markov won’t be back till All Star break we can’t afford to wait that long for a powerlay to deliver.

    I know the contract is a bit much, but something will be done with Gomez after this season is over. The way I see it is the management don’t want to disrupt the situation and make it any more catastrophic with the team chemistry than it already is.

    I know the money on the contract between Spacek and Kaberle is a bit much, but if Kaberle can contribute to the PP than I think we can overlook that for now.

    Here we are bitching for change and now that something has happened, we are now bitching this way. Please make up your minds.

    • Muckbringer says:

      if you were the molsons would you eat 6.5 mil to train hamilton? thats 6.5 off molson stock.

      Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
      Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
      Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
      Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
      Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I’m bitching for a change but I’m not asking for just any change. I want a coaching change and I don’t want to replace contracts that are ending with over-rated, over-paid bums on long contracts. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. And to be honest I don’t see Gomez going anywhere. Why spend 7.5 mill on crap when you can likely find 2 players for half that who are better than gomez this summer in free agency.

  34. PrimeTime says:

    I was once banned a couple of years ago for critisizing Boone and his leading of the naysayers here…..something about “orgy of negativity”. Boone is a flip flopper….acts like a egcentric fan on the Live Bog then, usually after sober after thought, a journalist on the ALN game summary. But his post today was more to his “fan” side. Too quick to judge because he likes Spacek and has on many ocassions defending criticism and called him “media friendly”. I won’t argue his opinion but somethings don’t belong here. I prefer “Boone the Journalist” over “Boone the Fan”.

  35. billylove says:

    Just finished a phone call with my brother, a Hab fan living in Minnesota. He’s really pissed about the trade. He was re-balancing his commodity portfolio when he heard about it and angrily slammed his keyboard. Apparently, this resulted in him accidentally purchasing 1,000 shares of Mongolian horse dung on the futures market. He got killed!

  36. Bill says:

    Two years after this one at what, 4.25 million? Why is everyone so upset at the contract? It’s just not that bad.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  37. rob_c says:

    Like most of you I am growing tired of JM and the boring system of his, PG has made several questionable moves as well. But I can’t figure out for the life of me how the vast majority of you are outraged at this move. I’m not claiming to be some super fan, or know more then any of you.. Thats probably not the case. I have however seen every MTL game the last 4 years, so its not like this comment is coming from someone who watches 2 games a month either.

    When I found out about the deal, I wasn’t jumping up and down in joy by any means.. That being said I found the move interesting and judging by our lacklustre powerplay I thought it was a good move. I am well aware of Kaberle’s play for the first 27 games this season, and the last half of last. I am also aware of his current contract paying him 4.25/year until 2014. I just wanted to clear a few things up.

    Many of you keep saying 3 teams thought so little of him that they “gave” up on him, or got rid of him etc.

    less then a year ago, Toronto received a first round pick, A conditional pick which ended up being a second rounder I believe, and Colborne who is a former 1st round pick of Bostons with size who was one of there top prospects. Toronto didn’t by any means “give up” on him, and Boston clearly thought highly enough 8 short months ago to offer a monstrous package like that.

    Then theres Kaberles time in Boston. He was a leaf his whole career, he gets traded to a team late in the season…its obviously new to him. Whens the last time a player got traded at the trade deadline or just before it and tore it up? I don’t care who you are it rarely happens.
    Last season I seen a game between Toronto and Montreal.. in that game Kaberle was the best player on the ice for either team. I find it hard to believe in one short year everyone can rule him done, or “past his expiry date”.

    Boston had just won the cup, they had guys to sign, clearly Kaberle wasn’t a priority, and why would he be considering the way he played with them. It appeared pretty obvious he wasn’t a good fit in Boston, just like Cole in Edmonton. But yet again….

    A team in Carolina thought highly enough of him once again to offer him term and dollar. Now I’ve seen him play twice this year, and wasn’t overly impressed in either game. But I haven’t seen enough of him to say he’s been complete garbage. His numbers are comparable to the great PK Subban’s, and he played on a worse team then ours…

    Like I said before, I’m not jumping up and down with joy, but I don’t see this as being a Gomez like trade either. We gave up Spacek people. When news on Spacek skating again hit the website I read from multiple people how they wish he’d stay injured, “theres no place for him” etc. We didn’t exactly give up Ryan McDonagh. Thank God.

    And as far as the term and dollars, if you told me a year ago to the day Kaberle could be had for that price and term I’d probably say its too good to be true.

    I realize we have guys to sign at seasons end as well, But if you think we are unable to sign Gorges, PK, Price, Eller, Max Pac because we have Kaberle making 4.25 I’m afraid your wrong. Montreal will surely rid itself of Gomez’s contract by then.

    Lets just give this move a chance before we call out Bloody Murder.

    • SmartDog says:

      THE ANSWER IS HERE. YOU SAID:

      “less then a year ago, Toronto received a first round pick, A conditional pick which ended up being a second rounder I believe, and Colborne who is a former 1st round pick of Bostons with size who was one of there top prospects. ”

      AND TODAY… he was traded for Spacek.

      Figure it out.

      ————————————-
      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • rob_c says:

        Your trying to turn it around on me, but your actually confirming my point. Less then a year ago that was the price to be had for his services…. and we just got him for…..Spacek. I would take Kaberle over him any day of the year. Kaberles best is better then Spaceks best. I don’t even think you can argue that. Spacek wasn’t going to spark our powerplay, Kaberle may. PG could have traded PK for Doughty straight up and there would still be people on this site upset… I wish we would get a new GM and coach just like the next fan, but THIS move in my opinion isn’t a bad one.

      • ihabto says:

        Figure what out? His stock fell. Buy low, sell high. We got something for Spacek. That’s amazing. A chance to turn our powerplay around. If it doesn’t work out then we at least have another bonafide NHLer, and one who can actually pass the puck up to our talented forwards, so our AHL defensemen can go to the Bulldogs and improve until they are NHLers and can take his place when his contract is up. I may be wrong but I think sitting on the roster would have been a mistake. This may have been the best move available.

    • Muckbringer says:

      well said.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      We don’t take kindly to you reasonin’ folk round here.

    • Lafrich says:

      Perfectly said dude. I feel identically to you. Straight up (as it pretty much is for this season) I would take Kaberle over Spacek in a heartbeat. As for the next two seasons, Cole is a great analog. He could very well light it up for us, or maybe he plays crap. That being said, I cannot believe that in 1 year he goes from very good to awful after so many good seasons.

    • montreal ace says:

      Good post, especially the part about his play going downhill in less then a year. I think he still has game and will be a nice addition to the PP.

  38. mike3131 says:

    I’ve been begging all summer for PG to trade Spacek because of how bad he was last year. But I’ve gained a lot of respect for him because he worked hard in the off-season, lost like 10 lbs, came to camp in top shape and has been much better for us this year (I think we lost less than five of the 12 games he played). I’ve still been for trading him but for a hard hitting Emelin-type d-man with NHL experience. But not for frigging KABERLE!!! The last thing we need is another soft d-man carrying an albatross contract. F*** man! What PG just did was take a minor short term issue (barely even an issue) and make it an even bigger long term problem.

    • mike3131 says:

      And we have to sign Price, PK, Gorges, Max and Eller in the offseason…

      • SmartDog says:

        Thankfully Gauthier will be gone by then. I guarantee it. Even though we’re left with all his lousy baggage, at least someone with more brains will figure out how to sign those guys. It’s like Obama taking over after George W though. There’s a huge hill to climb. Everybody, lower your expectations. Fack.

        ————————————-
        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Lafrich says:

      So, you would have liked to trade him for a killer hitting Defenceman with experience. Please tell me of whom you speak. Give me a single name.

      Furthermore, it is certainly NOT an albatross of a contract.

      • mike3131 says:

        Cory Sarich – and yes its albatross because he is not even close to worth the $4.25 M/yr unless he brings our PP back up to 25% and is selected to the all-star team again. We’re also stuck with his contract until 2014.

  39. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …CanadienFanTrappedInNiagaraFallsNY …seems quite a few having issues with Boone’s subliminal religious and world-view fixations which have zero place in a Montreal Canadiens’ on-line community …especially published as a division of a general community news publisher such as The Montreal Gazette

    …I enjoy HIO for the fellow community of Fans of My Montreal Canadiens …there are very entertaining and insightful commentators contributing here in ‘the commentariat’ (though I am continuously bemused and awed how They have so much time on Their hands to do so :) ) …I revel in Dave Stubbs intimate writings on Our Players and Our Team …Hickey I can take or leave …Boone I enjoy 95 % of the time even though He writes like He’s sucked everyOne else’s brains before He writes (is plagiarism a compulsory course in journalism school ???) …anyhow Boone adds a tone of low-life that provides some entertaining ‘grit’ to HIO’s ambiance
    …it’s when Boone drags His People into the Yang of HIO …when some of My People may not share His fixations …to put it in context, Boone is a racist based on His fixations
    …yet, when Others call Him on His racism, He and Others here call Them anti-Semites
    …well, some of the nicest People I have met in this life includes Jews …some of the best and most articulate Habs’ Fans includes Jews …but it’s the Jews that are (deleted) and use Their disrespectfully foul mouths to ridicule and condescend My religion, My People or others, are those that create outraged feelings and response and the expected blow-back …some here call that understandable disgust and outrage anti-Semitic
    …well, that paradigm is getting old and very hypocritical
    …I just want to come into HIO without the politicizing and religious innuendo
    …these are things most of Us escape into HIO and Our Hockey Team to get-away from

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • HabFab says:

      Chris,
      Hockey, politics, religion and racism all together. How can it possibly get better? Missing some sex here…what the heck was the attraction with that again? Yeah, remember now and yipe, you definitely needed some sex here too!

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      Good to read that others see what I have noticed with more and more regularity here. Whether or not it will change a thing, well probably not. Hang in there!

    • The Dude says:

      Hey Christoper ,You should know by now that it is the job of 10 million Jews too get under the skin of 2.1 billion Christians and 1 .5 billion Muslims. We’ve been working hard on pissing off the 350 million Buddhist but they won’t bite,lol

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …and doing a good job of it too Stephen :)
        …how’s life on the island ? …winter settling in ?

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

        • The Dude says:

          I just finished roofing the United Church of Lake Cowichan all by myself”not bad for a 53 year old atheistic jewboy with Buddhist tendency’s,VERY BIG CHURCH” . They couldn’t get a discount from their own ,so I gave them a huge break ” after all I am the only Jew in town” …..you know ,to stir the pot,heh heh heh! In small towns across British Columbia it’s all the Jews fault starting with Rothschild and Rockefeller etc…etc,so I’M told,lol But I forgive them,”ahum”
          And being pert near the center of town and me fighting the effects of winter…everyone drove by and every one had something too say like :One man alone can not do this job! Or my fav :What taking so long?I even had one guy yell :”why are you doing this so cheap …the Vatican has lot’s of money!”….I got to tell you I was waiting for the old”What’s that Jew doing on the church roof!” So Chris ,you can say this long haired,dope smoking Hippie had one heck of a religious experience and the Church got perfection!

  40. Bill says:

    SO MANY COMMENTS. I hope Boone, Stubbs, Mio et al really do get bonuses, because this is a gold-mine.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  41. KLear says:

    Usually I don’t rant on these sites but here it goes….

    JM is not a bad coach. There I said it. In fact, I think he is a good coach. He asks his teams to play a highly skilled, up tempo system that emphasizes defence to compensate for the fact that no NHL team will have four lines like the 1980s Soviet Red Army teams. Its fun to watch. It beats brawling in the alley endorsed by many other coaches. On the nights they win their positioning is flawless, the passes stick-to-stick, and Price stops the puck he should stop. Its fun to watch, because heaven knows, I can’t execute on the ice the way this team often can. The only flaw in his ideology is that this team does not have the depth to execute on offence when significant injuries take hold or players tank.

    He supposedly started the year with 3 bonafide NHL centers, but Gomez disappears, one has injury issues and is sent back, and now Plekanec has to do everything include drive the zamboni. He supposedly starts with 2 powerhouse PP D-men but Markov’s knee goes south, PK realizes what its like to play against top competition every night, and (I am sorry but) St.Denis and Weber are NOT bonafide NHL players. He starts the year with a 4th line with energetic gutsy forwards like White and Moen (a great combo in my mind) only to have White go down to injury (see a pattern here anyone ?). Engqvist doesn’t grow up and and now we are running 3 lines instead of 4 and everyone is rung out.

    Its harder than it looks from your couch.

  42. Kaberle had more points than Cammalleri and Gionta last season.. and Gionta gets paid 5 million, Cammy gets 6.

    We’re willing to give Gio and Cammy a chance but not Kabby?

    • Talik Sanis says:

      To be fair, he doesn’t have more points than either of the pair so far this year, and most of the hardcore negative nellies would like to see the “soft midgets” get traded.

      Give us some credit. We can be remarkably consistent at times.

  43. Habsolutely says:

    for some reason certain habs fans tend to overrate habs players. It’s happening right now with Kaberle. Kaberle has nine assists in 29 games, just four of them on the power play, and is a minus-12. But now that he’s a hab he’s “not that bad”? In his last 78 games with the Bruins and Hurricanes — including the playoffs — he has one goal. He has 12 assists on the power play (29 points overall) in that span.
    Sorry, he has been that bad. If he wasn’t that bad Carolina wouldn’t have traded him. I don’t understand why some of you need to hide from reality so much.

    • Propwash says:

      He was on kind of a lousy team as well. I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
      As for him in Boston, their PP as I stated below sucked before he showed up anyway.

      _____________________________
      Being negative has its advantages,
      you’re never disappointed.

      • Habsolutely says:

        Hey dude, I hope he plays well for us. But I’m not gonna hide the fact that I don’t really think this guy is gonna do much for this team. I think our problems lie eleswhere.

    • That doesn’t mean anything.

      Erik Cole was crap on PP for the Hurricanes – he had what 2? 3? goals, yet he’s benefiting the club right now.

      At least give this guy a chance man, already bullshipping on him.

      • Habsolutely says:

        I’m not crapping on him, I didn’t make up his recent stats. It is what it is, he’s been an under-performing player with a toxic contract, I have nothing to do with that. I hope he scores 50 goals for us. But I’m also a realist and don’t enjoy walking around with my head in the clouds dreaming about pie in the sky things that are unlikely to happen. and I’m saying right now that IMO, I doubt this guy is gonna change the Habs PP woes. It’s my opinion, not the gospel. Like I said, I hope I’m wrong.

        • Fair enough bud, just felt bad reading all this pessimism on this website. Wanted to see a bit more optimism.

          But I guess then you wouldn’t be able to call HI/O, HI/O ;)

          • Habsolutely says:

            hey, in the end, this trade could be the straw that breaks the camels back and get’s PG fired, or it could turn out to be another wiz trade for him where he knocks it outta the park. Time will tell all.

      • ManApart says:

        Sounds like what you said about Gomez a few years ago. I’m afraid that is not the attitude that is going to ever get this team near a Cup.

  44. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Hab fans, com down, take a chil pil.
    At least PG did something.
    Kaberle didn’t play yet and we’re already crappin on him.

  45. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Spacek is going to be missed, alot of fans and media crapt on him but he did his job, mistakes here and there, but real teammate.

    Kaberle, well I’m not going to say anything before I see him play. I hope he can produce, I still think he can. Because he is not going to be our first or second Dman he is going to be like fifth or sixth.
    Hopefully he can do something on our PP because if we got 1 or 2 goals on it yestorday, we would of wan.
    Also some other games if we got at least 1 or 2 goals on the PP we would of wan.

    I feal really bad for Price, like god he keeps us in every game and then we lose in the shootouts!

    I still didn’t give up on the habs unlike some other people, I think we got good defence, a great goally, good mix of forwards, our 5 on 5 is way better then last year, our PK is amazing. Just our PP sucks!

    Leblanc probably will play on the top 3 lines because Gionta is injured.

    Go Habs

  46. Quit your whining. Give Kabby a chance.

    I’ll take him over Spacek anyday. Heck I’ll take him over Gill.

  47. You know how many Habs had more points than Kaberle last year?

    1.

    That’s it.

    http://www.puckbandits.com

  48. HabFab says:

    To all Hab fans living in Montreal.
    Don’t forget to hold spots for the rest of us along the normal Parade route, please and thank you!

    Or not…”sigh”

  49. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    @Habsolutely…

    No doubt Kaberle is not great, not Norris material. But I dont see why everyone thinks hes been so horrible for so long.

    He had 47 points last yr, which apparently was a ‘bad’ year if we follow the logic here. Last year, Christian Ehrhoff had 50 points. He was also -15 in the Cup Finals series alone. Yet he was propped up as a top tier FA. He then got signed for TEN YEARS and the media at large praised it.
    I just dont see the evidence that Kaberle is THAT bad. 47 points for a Dman is nothing to sneeze at, certainly when your PP is arguably the league’s worst if you account for SH goals allowed.

    • Muckbringer says:

      kaberle can play the whole year for the next two with min on the pp. not spac. remember how tired he was at the end of last season. i say, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l93fDmh6XKo

      It is better to lead from behind and to put others in front, especially when you celebrate victory when nice things occur. You take the front line when there is danger. Then people will appreciate your leadership.

      Nelson Mandela

    • Agreed. He hasnt had his best seasons of late, but they aren’t horrible seasons.

      http://www.puckbandits.com

    • Rugger says:

      And the Habs got him for Spac, while the B’s gave up a prospect and a first round pick.

      • Drewbie says:

        Didn’t they give up a 1st as well as a first round prospect, AND a second rounder? (the second rounder was a conditional pick if the Bruins made the SCF or resigned Kaberle)

    • ManApart says:

      Kaberle used to be a great player. That was the past. He did nothing as a Bruin, on an excellent team. He then went to Carolina and stunk up the joint so bad, Rutherford got rid of him only a few months after signing him to a huge deal. If Rutherford would accept looking very bad by doing this, you know there’s a problem.

      I tell you one thing, I trust Burke, Chiarelli and Rutherford’s judgement a lot more than I do the dumbo twins. If all of them couldn’t wait to get rid of Kabby fast enough, there’s a reason. The worst part, is the anchor of a contract. Does anyone ever learn?

    • Habsolutely says:

      for some reason certain habs fans tend to overrate habs players. It’s happening right now with Kaberle. Kaberle has nine assists in 29 games, just four of them on the power play, and is a minus-12. But now that he’s a hab he’s “not that bad”? In his last 78 games with the Bruins and Hurricanes — including the playoffs — he has one goal. He has 12 assists on the power play (29 points overall) in that span.
      Sorry dude, he has been that bad. If he wasn’t that bad Carolina wouldn’t have traded him. I don’t understand why some of you need to hide from reality so much.

      • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

        Stall’s been worse… should we have gotten him for Spacek?

        • Habsolutely says:

          you’re comparing Eric Staal to Keberle??? Ok, thats it for me. Enjoy him, I really hope you are right and I am wrong.

          • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

            No i am not REALLY comparing them, I am pointing out that Stall is an elite player in this league and hes having an awful year on an awful team – the same team Kaberle just came from.

  50. Habfan4lfe says:

    I think this site and the hits it got tonight really shows you the experience some of us fans have. It’s not that bad a trade. There is a good chance Kaberle will have a great time in Montreal and produce. This is not Boston, this is no ‘over rated always over hyped’ Toronto suck machine. This is the Habs. Let’s see if Kaberle brings his game and shows us that he earns his bucks. I still have hope for him, he’s a good player.

    This message in no way endorses PG or JM. Both had nothing to do with this trade. This is Bob and Geoff and PG signing the papers. To me, defence is not our problem. That is the result of a stupid system that Martin plays. We need changes up front. We need the right people on the ice. We need these young guys showing us what they really have. Not this 5min a game crap. You don’t bring up a top forward and then throw him on the 3rd or 4th line and play him 6 mins but turn around and play an experienced player who is producing jack squat.

    You don’t do shoot outs and not put plekanec at the start of the line. That’s just utter stupidity. Moen taking a turn? Haha. That’s the acts of a desperate coach making bad decisions. This is a coach who has lost touch with his players.

    Kaberle coming to us is not going to win us a cup. I’ll tell ya that. But hey, prove me wrong Kaberle!

  51. Frank2468 says:

    I just listened to all audio clips but only listened for like 2 minutes of JM. It’s always the same rhetoric “He has great vision and is a good passer and can run a power play” Omg I can’t listen to this guy anymore, imagine the players that have to listen to him everyday, yada yada yada.

    No wonder why they are losing, they have tuned him out like the fans have. We get a puck rushing defense man to run a power play. Wow 4.25 mil a year for that, so guess Karbele will play maybe 6 to 8 minutes a game cause he’s to offensive for JM’s liking. So 5 on 5 guess Kaberle is supposed to sit back and guard the “House”. Another great bust by BG, PG and JM. Like I said before this organization is in year 19 of the 300 year rebuilding process.

  52. GUNKA DIN says:

    Look,
    I said in my previous post to trade for any Leaf. But Kaberle is not a Leaf any more, and was not at trade time. He has fallen from that tree, his colours have changed more than once since, and – – – aaaargh.

    Maybe he was the best available, and Canadiens Chemistry will work the same way it did with the Big M and brother Pete?

    What have we got to lose except a few more games with an anaemic PP?

    That’s my shot from the point on my head.

    .see my blog at http://noroomatthedump.blogspot.com/

  53. The Dude says:

    …………….Sporting News flash……………….
    Juri Tlusty just acquired in a player swap for PK Subban……WooHooo!!!

  54. LL-not the hockey player ;) says:

    I admit this morning I was like WTF? But Kaberle is better than Spacek at this point, and our PP is desperate right now.

    Just like Versteeg, who bounced around for a while, and everyone thought he was finished, I believe Kaberle has the chance to get back to being a good player.

    I remember reading angry comments directed at PG for not getting him before Boston.

    Now those same people are mad because he did. Maybe PG knows a little more than we do, and maybe other trades (I hope), are to follow.

    • Muckbringer says:

      aside from when he was healthy this year and, even still, i wont miss spac.

      i do wish him well. he is a near legend after all. fn sabres will prob retire his jersey….

    • ManApart says:

      PG doesn’t know squat. If he did he wouldn’t have loaded the team up with yet another bloated BS contract on a hope and a prayer.

      The majority of comments were directed toward Chiarelli, in regards to how stupid he was to give up so much for Kaberle, who Burke wanted no part of from day one.

      It’s a desperate, ridiculous move to keep the wolves at bay. Just like the Perry Pearn firing. Gauthier and Gainey have got to be two of the worst GMs in the league.

      • LL-not the hockey player ;) says:

        PG knew which goalie to keep; which is much more than you know.

        • ManApart says:

          Maybe PG was right about Price, although after seeing him lose every damn shootout, I’m not so sure either goalie is anything so great at this point.

          I’ll tell you one thing, any GM who would take on yet another big contract for an underperforming player, after seeing how badly that is working out every night in front of his face, is a moron and completely incompetent. If you can’t see that, well you are just as dumb.

          • Omit says:

            ManApart

            May I ask what your background and qualifications are as a hockey expert? You seem to think you know more than Gainey and I would really like to know if you can back it up. Can you?

            “Time wounds all heels”. – J.L.

          • ManApart says:

            Anyone, who isn’t in a vegetative state knows hockey better than Gainey and Gauthier

        • punkster says:

          Oh my :)

          ***Subbang Baby!!!***

          • LL-not the hockey player ;) says:

            Did he just call me dumb? lol

          • Propwash says:

            Looks that way….

            _____________________________
            Being negative has its advantages,
            you’re never disappointed.

          • LL-not the hockey player ;) says:

            Well then, I’m honoured. It’s a first. :)

          • HabFab says:

            LL, just tell his mother he is misbehaving and she will take away his internet privileges again!!

          • ManApart says:

            What do you want me to say to a guy who thinks Kaberle is a good move? I said the same about guys who thought Gainey knew what he was doing with Gomez a few years back. Everybody didn’t like what I said back then either. Now, 2+ years later, they are all quoting me verbatim. Just like they will be doing next year, regarding Kabby, when there’s no money to improve the team.

          • Omit says:

            ManApart

            You answered my request exactly the way I knew that you would.
            Meanwhile, I guess you’ll continue to throw out your insults about a man who would make you look like an absolute fool. Mind you, just about anybody could do that.

            “Time wounds all heels”. – J.L.

        • punkster says:

          “SLAM”

          ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  55. ManApart says:

    Wow, I can see Gauthier is taking after his pal Gainey in trying to help fellow GMs get rid of their stupid mistakes.

    I mean is this for real? If you are willing to take on Kabby’s 4.25 million contract, why didn’t you just add a mil and
    keep the Wiz? How many bloated contracts for under performing players do you want? More short sighted, stupid moves, by a mickey mouse management team. This franchise is a complete joke. There’s no reason to support them, until Molson wakes up and does something to clear out the failures at the top.

    • The Dude says:

      Souray was way cheaper and a tough guy too!

    • Habfan4lfe says:

      You think Gauthier made this trade? Wow you know jack. He signed the papers, that’s it. Wiz Wtf, why do we need this guy, man Gauthier I’m getting worried about you.

      PG> But but but.. I talked to Bob and he agreed.

      Geoff> Bob? Wow? Really.. well. It’s gonna take some talkin to me before you do that Pierre.

      Enter Gainey, time and time and time again……

      Geoff> Hi Bob, how’s it hanging find another Crosby yet?

      Gainey> No I got Gomez’s brother he’s interested in joining the team… no really. Kaberle, I know he hasn’t proved much lately with other clubs but I suspect he will be a good addition to us. I have advised PG on this and he seems to be in on it but he said to talk to you.

      Geoff> Well Bob, you get PG to sign the papers like always, I hate Spacek anyhow.. especially when he’s girly along the boards and waving his stick around desperate trying to hit the puck! Nice guy but man…

      Bob> Hey I hear Gomez is coming back soon, apparently he was yanking his chain a little too much and pulled something. I hear he’s almost ready to play to his old form.

      Geoff> Bob it’s too late, the mafia has taken over now.

      • Muckbringer says:

        you forgot

        muck: “guys it doesnt matter, this is our team and ill watch from home with my family and enjoy anyway. yeah it sucks floppy donkey sausage when you lose, but when you dont care; well, we dont watch the next game.”

  56. Habfan4lfe says:

    Kaberle trade is not that bad. I think he will do more on our team than any other team. This is Montreal, not Boston or Toronto. Who the f in their right mind would play for Boston? C’mon!

    Spacek on the other hand being gone is great news! He sucked, he’s a whimp and imo he’s a liability not an asset. He’s had 10x more bad games than good.

    Martin still in the drivers seat is still a serious problem that definitely needs to be resolved. PG is a moron to not have gotten rid of this emotionless slab of meat on our bench. Crosby on our team wouldn’t change and Martin would destroy him too.

    Who else to get rid of in order of priority.

    Martin
    Gauthier
    Gomez
    Gill
    Weber
    Diaz

    Replace these people and we got something.

  57. Muckbringer says:

    way, way off topic but i just came across this. ill never look at southern teams the same. atlanta i knew, but wow! im sure most have known about this but i found it interesting. im talking specifically about oakland.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_were_the_original_8_nhl_teams

  58. blu3chip says:

    I’m not too offended by this trade, except for the contract part.

    As long as we can sign the guys we want this summer, I’m perfectly fine having Kaberle on my team. He was a top notch D man not too long ago, I believe he will bounce back nicely.

    But again, why didn’t we sign Wiz in the first place?

    • CanadienBoy says:

      That what i say

    • Muckbringer says:

      i have no clue why they wouldnt resign. maybe he didnt want to pay the taxes? there is so much we dont see, all we can do is guess.
      pair with skillzy?

    • Habfan4lfe says:

      Because Wiz sucks. So sick of seeing people ask for this guy back, he was nothing great, other than the dumb name people gave him. Wake up. Wiz instead of Kaberle? Pfft.

      Hello, I don’t know wtf I am talking about. I shove popcorn and beer in my face on my couch and never played the game of hockey in my whole life. Ya Wiz, get him back!

      Smack! Wake up.

      • ManApart says:

        I hope you’re joking. Wiz had 30 points in 43 games for this team and was a plus player playing big minutes. As we can now see, he was the PP. If we had Wiz on our PP, this team has 3 more wins and is comfortably in the playoffs. He also is only 27 and has a lot more time to improve his defensive game.

        If you think Wiz sucks, then you have no clue about what you are talking about

    • ManApart says:

      The contract part is the issue. I mean Kabby and Spacek are a wash, so it’s not like Gainey’s epic fail Gomez move, where he gave up a top prospect. Saying I don’t mind the trade, besides the contract, is like saying I don’t mind Gomez, except for the part that he does nothing.

      • blu3chip says:

        I like Kaberle, I think he will contribute significantly to the team. That is very different from saying ‘I don’t mind Gomez/Kaberle’.
        And Kaberle’s contract isn’t that bad, 4.25 mil is a lot but what would be a fair price for him? I would say 3 mil is very reasonable, some may say a steal. So we are essentially overpaying him by about a mil. Is 1 mil a big deal? Yes, especially when we need to sign so many guys this summer, but I don’t think it warrant so much bashing. On top of that, it is a 3 year contract, not 7.

  59. HUDSONHAB says:

    Spacek has been a decent working part of a pretty good Habs team over the years.
    But things aren’t working for the Habs so I guess we need new (different ) parts.
    I’m willing to wait and see….. not much happening anyway.

    ….Hab4life….

    • Muckbringer says:

      i really disliked spac untill this year. maybe they figured they wouldnt get anything and werent going to resign him. may as well get someone who could connect with pleks. what was the trade value for cabbie (you heard it here second) two years ago? yeah boston didnt need him, carolina sucks…chara/ovi/crosby would suck on carolina.

  60. ont fan says:

    I wonder how many people in management knocked this trade around..I bet there were alot..these people have to know what the reaction was going to be..well they didn’t sit on their hands and hoped it would get better

  61. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    OK, I’ll make a hockey point, if you can look past my alleged anti-semetism…

    If we had only 5 more point, regardless how they were obtained, wed be in 6th place. If we had even a semblance of a PP, its safe to say we’d have those points.
    Can the haters honestly say they don’t think Kaberle’s resumé shows that if we had him, even at 50% of his best, we could have climbed that hump and earned a few more points?

    • Habsolutely says:

      See, the problem that seems to be alluding a few of you guys, is that he’s not very good, he hasn’t been very good in awhile and the chances that he is suddenly going to turn into a Norris candidate are extremely slim. This is a huge gamble hockey wise. Then you have to look at how his toxic cap hit effects the teams ability to sign players and add key ingredients. Haven’t we learned this lesson with Gomez? I would have been happy to stick with Spatch till the end of the season and keep the young guys in the rotation and use the rest of the season to evaluate them.

    • HUDSONHAB says:

      I guess what we need to do is trade for someone who can score a shootout goal, cause if we would have won those games we would be in 6th as well.
      You make a good point, just sayin.

      ….Hab4life….

    • LafleurFan says:

      Loved the passion in your posts! Emotions and intellect do not share the same operating systems. This site has expressions that posters are free to express determined mainly by one’s emotions.

      It is why Serious Fan 09’s reports are so engaging by contrast.

      Wasn’t fond of the putdown of Booney. Maybe a tasteless attempt at subtle humour, but certainly not intended to lead to a long tangent into what was subsequently written. We shouldn’t be accusing anyone of anti-Semitism when all this communication was triggered by a controversial HOCKEY TRADE!

      So…., HIO posters are not uniform. Really?

      Liked the trade (to repeat, effectively a substitution of Kaberle for St. Denis).

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

        I guess the passion of fans, whatever the topic, is what makes the sport so good and the ticker on this site keep climbing.

        My bigger issue with Boone is that he backtracks on his previous statements without acknowledging the change of opinion or the reasoning. But that’s what all sports analysts seem to do. NFL analysts being the saddest example.

  62. C-Sword says:

    I don’t like this trade at all, I wasn’t the biggest fan of Spacek, but he was playing quite well before he got injured, not to mention that his contract was ending soon. Kaberle was an overrated d-man when he was with the Leafs, being on the same team as Komisarek sure made him look better than he actually was, he did absolutely nothing with the Bruins in the playoffs and now we’re going to be stuck with him for 2 more years. His addition to the team will bring nothing new, he might even be a liability in the defensive zone.

  63. Habsolutely says:

    The curious thing about this is how this is going to effect the D rotation. Does this mean Yemmy gets pushed further down the ladder? Weber gone? Diaz? Wish we didn’t have a GM that hid in his office all day and at least let people know what the plan is, instead of leaving us guessing.

  64. doug19 says:

    Wow looking for a miracle here with this trade! PG might just have
    filled out the rest of his walking papers.Super expensive rental who we might get a 4th rounder for?Other wise we are stuck with
    this, Gomez,Markov contract,and a few others.
    Its all about parity.On the bright side if Kaberle sucks bad and they have to play him to show what a great trade this is we will really tank and have a good draft. JM play him in every crucial situation please!
    I am happy this takes Emelin off the PP as he looked good and habs might have finished higher.Emelin oozes talent from where I sit just needs the green light as does Subban.

    • 100HABS says:

      Doug I think what you’re trying to say makes sense you should try separating your thoughts using commas and putting spaces after each sentence it makes it a lot easier to read and understand.
      =========================
      Take two:
      Doug – I think what you’re trying to say makes sense. You should try separating your thoughts, using commas, and putting spaces after each sentence.
      It makes it a lot easier to read and understand.

    • LafleurFan says:

      Emelin has one assist. The team needs offence!

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  65. Rainrocket16 says:

    Everybody needs to relax and wait before you judge the move. I am not a big fan of this move but before we all attack the GM for this move we have to see how it plays out! We are paying a little bit more, yes! But I think he can mentor some of these younger D kids and help them find their game, veteran trainer, let’s hope!

  66. Gabs about Habs says:

    Any team with both Markov and Kaberle on the blue line becomes an instant contender for the cup….did I mention I have a rare brain condition that locks me in mentally to the year 2005

  67. longbow says:

    Who knows….If we revive Kaberle’s career maybe we can trade him to Columbus on draft day when they realize Wiz isn’t all he’s cracked up to be. Wonder what we can get for Weber ? T Bay need D. Could we squeeze Purcell out of them ?

    “A constant smirk upon the face, and a whiffing activity of the body, are strong indications of futility.” Lord Chesterfield

  68. neumann103 says:

    I go offline for about 2 hours and this happens?

    For many years Kaberle was my favourite Leaf, but this is nuts.

    Spacek gets a lot of crap but he has been a stabilizing force when in the lineup. Look at the Habs record with him this year. He has played in something like 3/4 of the wins and 1/3 of the losses. I think it is actually the strongest statistical correlation of any player to W/L on the team. (I can confidently assert these pulled out of my backside statistics because someone will be along shortly to correct me)

    People have been railing about Spacek’s $3.8M hit. It ends next June. He was not going to come back. That was PK Subban’s money.

    On the bright side, it almost guarantees they will resolve the Gomez situation through demotion, buyout or … (pause for effect) trade (bahahhahaha)

    “Et le but!”

    • how does it guarantee anything about Gomez?

      http://www.puckbandits.com

      • neumann103 says:

        Well I think guarantee was hyperbole, but …. seriously? The Gomez cap space will be needed even more now to sign the rather significant crop of RFA up next June since instead of havinv Spacek’s 3.8M dropping off, they have added Kaberle’s 4.25 for the following 3 years.

        Here is the crop of free agents next year
        2012 RFA
        Price, Carey
        Subban, P.K.
        Eller, Lars
        Emelin, Alexei
        Weber, Yannick
        Diaz, Raphael
        St. Denis, F.
        White, Ryan
        Nokelainen, P.
        Nash, Brendon

        2012 UFA
        Kostitsyn, Andrei
        Gorges, Josh
        Moen, Travis
        Gill, Hal
        Campoli, Chris
        Darche, Mathieu

        Now I am not saying sign them all but is anyone arguing that you might want to try to sign Price, Subban, Eller, Emelin, at least one of Diaz, Weber, or St Denis, Gorges, AK46 and Moen if they keep playing the way they are.

        Of that list, maybe Kostitsyn and possibly signs for the same money. From the vantage point of today that actually looks optimistic. Everyone else gets a raise ranging from significant to huge, else they get offer sheeted or walk

        “Et le but!”

  69. HabFanSince72 says:

    How is it a huge gamble? We traded an injured washed up player for a healthy possibly washed up player. We traded a guy who probably no longer had a place on the team for a guy who might do. We traded nothing for a little bit of something.

    The only downside is the length of the contract.

    This is a minor deal at best.

    • Habsbill24 says:

      Only downside is the length of the contract? And when there is not enough money to sign Price, PK, Gorges, Eller, AK, Emelin, Diaz next year because we are paying this guy and there is no Cap space, that’s not a MAJOR downside?

  70. BeachHabFan says:

    1000+ comments here and 47 (!!!!) pages on TSN.CA – all for tomas freaking kaberle!! i feel like the goalie in Slapshot – “you go to the box – two minutes – you feel shame”….

  71. Just got in from work and read the trade. Awesome work and the best part is reading that the biggest loser here will no longer cheer for them. I freakin love it. One loser down, one to go.

    This day reminds when they unloaded Halak, the other best day on HIO.

    HIO is a better site as of right now.

    Thank you Canadiens HQ

    God Bless Us Everyone

    APPLAUSE, WHAT A GREAT DAY

    Shane Oliver
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    Brandon, MB,Canada
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    hockey@sholi2000.com
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  72. Duracell3 says:

    I partially like it…I mean we get a better player at a cap hit that isn’t too much worse….

    What I don’t is the years left, and what this says about Markov’s recovery. This guy is going to be here as long as #79, I guess I thought the organization had more faith in the plethora of our young puck moving D. You have to be bonkers to think this team is going to win anything this year, even with a gift from St. Price. It seems like a lot of money to throw around when so many need to be signed next year.

  73. HabFanSince72 says:

    Factoid of the day: Kaberle had more points than Chara in the playoffs.

    • sevenman says:

      Now now, c’mon what are you doing on this site with facts?

    • BeachHabFan says:

      i live in toronto and watch the leafs a fair bit (disclaimer: i’m a hockey fan AND a masochist) and in truth he was a good player on a (delete) team. He made bryan mccabe look awesome by feeding him sweet one-timer passes. I can see how he wouldn’t fit in w/ boston as they seem like a bunch of a–holes. Now it seems like his confidence needs electrosock therapy, hopefully subban or someone can pot a few and give him a boost. straight up, we win the trade, but the 2 yr hit after is a concern

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      And everyone else in that cup-winning D-corps. Nevermind that hes had more points in each of the last two seasons than Mr Wisniewski has ever tallied in a season. All while he has been “over the hill”

      Edit: I was off, Wiz exceeded his tally by a pair last year.


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