Habs trade Danny Kristo to Rangers; Lecavalier going to Flyers

The Canadiens announced on Tuesday afternoon that they have traded Danny Kristo to the New York Rangers in exchange for right-winger Christian Thomas.

Kristo, the Canadiens’ second-round draft pick in 2008 (56th overall) posted 26-26-52 totals in 40 games last season with the University of North Dakota and was a finalist for the Hobey Baker Award, which goes to the outstanding player in NCAA hockey.

Thomas, a 5-foot-9, 170-pounder, posted 19-16-35 totals in 73 games with the AHL’s Connecticut Whale and played one game with the Rangers last season, going pointless against the Canadiens on Feb. 23. He was the Rangers’ second-round draft pick (40th overall) in 2010. Thomas is the son of Steve Thomas, who played 20 seasons in the NHL.

Meanwhile, TSN reported on Tuesday evening that free-agent Vinny Lecavalier has agreed to a five-year, $22.5-million deal with the Philadelphia Flyers that includes a full no-movement clause. Under new NHL rules this season, following the lockout, teams were permitted to talk to players and their agents as early as July 1, but no contracts can be signed until July 5.

Christian Thomas is a gifted goal scorer with lots of speed,” Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin said in a statement. “He has been very productive offensively at the junior level with 137 goals before adding 19 more as a rookie with Connecticut in the AHL last season. This young 21-year old forward has shown tremendous character.” 

Thomas, who is from Toronto, played junior hockey with the OHL’s London Knights and Oshawa Generals, registering 257 points (137 goals, 120 assists) in 244 regular-season games from 2008 to 2012.

Tuesday was also the deadline for teams to extend qualifying offers to their restricted free agents. Ryan White, Gabriel Dumont and goaltenders Dustin Tokarski and Robert Mayer were all qualified by the Canadiens, while defenceman Yannick Weber, who was a healthy scratch most of last season, was not and becomes an unrestricted free agent. Bergevin tried to trade Weber, but there were no takers and he’s giving the 24-year-old a chance to revive his career elsewhere. Forward Ian Schultz and defenceman Joe Stejskal also became UFAs when the Canadiens didn’t offer them contracts.

The Canadiens open their annual development camp on Wednesday morning in Brossard with 56 players taking part. The camp runs until Sunday. Twenty-eight of the players in camp were drafted by the Canadiens, including all eight picks from Sunday’s 2013 NHL draft. The featured attractions will be first-round pick Michael McCarron and second-round pick Zach Fucale, the first goaltender selected at the draft. Four players who have already seen action with the Canadiens — Jarred Tinordi, Nathan Beaulieu, Greg Pateryn and Louis Leblanc — will also take part in the camp.

All players will participate in off-ice testing at Brossard’s Bell Sports Complex on Wednesday, beginning at 8:30 a.m.. The first on-ice practice session will start at 4:30 p.m.

On-ice practice sessions (three groups) will take place in the morning for the reminder of the camp, with scrimmages at the end of the day. A two-team intrasquad game will be played on Sunday at 9:30 a.m.

All practices are open to the public.

(Photo by Phil Carpenter/The Gazette)

Lecavalier goes to Flyers, Habs trade Kristo, by Pat Hickey

McCarron loaded with potential, ex-coach says, by Brenda Branswell

56 players to take part in development camp (with roster), canadiens.com

Top 25 free agents, canadiens.com

Bergevin tries to follow Blackhawks’ blueprint, NHL.com

Canadiens given grade of ‘A’ for NHL draft performance, SI.com

A salute to NHL scouts, SI.com

Letang agrees to eight year, $58-million deal with Penguins, NHL.com

1,591 Comments

  1. Ian Cobb says:

    With these crazy high price contracts still being offered out there, I just wonder what PK is going to get this time around.

    • habs11s says:

      If had to guess 7.5 mil for 8 years would be about right or 7.6 if he wants to take the Crosby contract route

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      • Ian Cobb says:

        Crazy! but I like the 8 years!

        • habs11s says:

          Yeah it is market value plus he’s worth every penny IMHO. I got chills in Game 1 when he skated to the bench and tried to get the whole bench fired up!

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          “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Same as Letang.

  2. mount royal says:

    When WB talks about character, I believe that he is taking about something different than grit. He wants grit and the draft results show that . Having character however, implies ethics, putting the team ahead of your ego, and discipline. That is why Kristo is gone.

    • Coach K says:

      MR – I believe your comments have captured exactly what Bergevin is attempting to address! Skill over ego is what gets them noticed. Ethics and discipline in combination with the skill set will win Stanley cups.

      —When Hell freezes over, I’ll play hockey there too—

  3. JF says:

    Thomas played one game for the Rangers last year and was apparently pretty decent. He is said to have great speed and excellent hands, with the possibility of developing into an elite scorer. I wonder if he’ll be ready to play for us this season or if he’ll spend the year in Hamilton. If the latter, we’ll need a winger. Who is available apart from Danny Brière?

  4. Ian Cobb says:

    Great trade! Thomas for Kristo. Thomas is only 21 yrs. old, with speed to burn. Fantastic blood lines, heart and character. Two years in Hamilton to develop into a true pro, me thinks!

  5. 24 Cups says:

    Colten Teubert and Jonathan Blum were both not qualified by their respective teams. Montreal might want to take a look seeing as they are both tall Dmen who just 24 years old.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Blum definitely looks all right on paper, but do we need another R-shooting defenceman?

      • 24 Cups says:

        I imagine that Nashville will try and sign Blum to a lesser contract which is why they didn’t qualify him.

        If they don’t, then Blum would be like picking up a decent Dman in this year’s draft, which is something the team didn’t do. Play Blum this year in Montreal and leave Pateryn and Ellis in Hamilton.

  6. HabinBurlington says:

    Interesting how Michael Ryder is now hardly mentioned as a prize UFA with all these compliance buyout UFA’s entering the fray.

    Really have to wonder where he will end up and what kind of contract. With Horton planning to leave Boston, I wonder if Ryder doesn’t end up back there.

    • Cal says:

      That’s because Ryder is a prize. A booby prize who will be signed when the UFA cupboard is bare. The lack of “try” when it comes to defensive play is glaring.

  7. 24 Cups says:

    “If my math is right, since ’07 the Flyers signed contracts totaling 61 years and $374.5M with six players who won’t play for them this year.”
    (Down Goes Brown)

  8. 24 Cups says:

    Dupuis has signed a four year deal with Pittsburgh for 3.75M a season.

    This officially ends Iginla’s time in Pittsburgh.

  9. habs11s says:

    So a team that is losing money gets to play in front of its 10 fans while other cities are extremely interested in making this team a financial success..

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  10. Cal says:

    Last night was a great example of why citizens should give a crap about local municipal government. IF I lived anywhere in the vicinity, I’d certainly move. Those councilors are more inept than the ones in Montreal, and that’s saying something.

  11. 24 Cups says:

    Here’s what I don’t get about the Lecavalier signing. Five years is a long time. What does this mean in terms of the development of Couturier? Or Simmonds and Voracek on RW? What about Matt Read who is a pretty good young kid? The there’s center Scott Laughton who the Flyers drafted last season. I realize any center can convert to the wing, but still….. It strikes me that Philly signed Vinny just because he was there and available. It’s like an addiction for Holmgren and Snider. UFAs seem to be Holmgren’s version of crack cocaine.

    I imagine that the Flyers will now try and move someone. MB needs to be ready to make a deal if guys like Read, Simmonds or Coburn come onto the trade market.

  12. Hobie Hansen says:

    I was hoping this Danny Briere talk was just a bad dream :-(.

  13. Habfan17 says:

    I have been going through the players invited to the development camp and although there are some more smallish players, albeit ones that put up some decent numbers, there are a few bigger players who not only put up points but also seem pretty gritty. For instance, Stefan Fournier, right wing, 21 years old, 6’3″ 210 lbs, last season, 72 points in 66 games, 100 pims, In the playoffs, 29 points in 17 games, 31 pims. The year before, 65 points in 64 games, 96 pims. Not sure if he could put up anywhere near those numbers at the NHL level, but as a 4th line right wing, he would be nice to see, especially behind McCarron. There are some others as well.

    Habfan17

  14. HabinBurlington says:

    Here is a summary of the deal last night in Glendale from the local AZ paper.

    http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/20130702city-council-oks-multimillion-dollar-deal-keep-team-glendale.html?nclick_check=1

    Interesting that bringing in Global Spectrum to run the arena is considered the key to the deal, of course this company is associated to Ed Snider in Philly.

  15. 24 Cups says:

    Here are the details of the Phoenix Coyotes deal.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426847

  16. Maritime Ron says:

    Funny how things work out sometimes.
    It may be time to exchange the “Flying Frenchmen” mantle with the Philadelphia Flyers as the Habs are left with a few tokens while the Flyers load up:

    The Philadelphia Flying Frenchmen Flyers now featuring Giroux, Lecavalier, Gagne, Talbot, Bourdon, Gervais, Couturier (French name) and it’s a good thing Briere is being bought.
    1st Round Draft pick 2013 – Samuel Morin

    Next time they play it will be:
    The Philadelphia Flying Frenchmen Flyers
    vs
    The Fucale Frenchmen Montreal Canadiens

  17. habs11s says:

    Man, the city councilers of Gendale are f’n idiots…

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    • Maritime Ron says:

      Not unique to Glendale.
      Wherever you live, next time there’s a council meeting go sit in. You’ll leave with a new perspective of the word ‘scary’ as these are the folks that set your municipal tax rates and any other indirect taxrape fee scheme they can come up with.
      One thing the all do very well is travel, eat-drink, and spend.

      • habs11s says:

        I have never taken any business courses but can see that this team is bleeding money like crazy and the city is paying for it… If my city payed for bad NHL deals for some private company, I’d move…

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        “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

      • twilighthours says:

        Why aren’t you running, Ron? It sounds like an easy gig

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      They really seem to be in over their heads.

      If you want to read about the debacle that is American municipal politics this article by the great Michael Lewis is worth a read. Check out the financial problems of the city of Vallejo, which can’t afford its cops and firefighters either:

      http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2011/11/michael-lewis-201111

      “Weeds surround abandoned businesses, and all traffic lights are set to permanently blink, which is a formality, as there are no longer any cops to police the streets. Vallejo is the one city in the Bay Area where you can park anywhere and not worry about getting a ticket, because there are no meter maids either.”

      “The problem with police officers and firefighters isn’t a public-sector problem; it isn’t a problem with government; it’s a problem with the entire society. It’s what happened on Wall Street in the run-up to the subprime crisis. It’s a problem of people taking what they can, just because they can, without regard to the larger social consequences. It’s not just a coincidence that the debts of cities and states spun out of control at the same time as the debts of individual Americans. Alone in a dark room with a pile of money, Americans knew exactly what they wanted to do, from the top of the society to the bottom. They’d been conditioned to grab as much as they could, without thinking about the long-term consequences. “

  18. HabinBurlington says:

    Watched a bit of that reality show online last night starring the bozo’s from Glendale. All that was missing was a picture of one of the councillors going outside for a smoke and accepting an envelope from Bettman and then proceeding to smoke some crack before re-entering the city hall to cast the final tiebreaking vote to keep the Yotes in the desert.

    This story seems to remind me why that phrase, Throwing good money after bad, became so popular.

    • habs11s says:

      I like to think that the envelope contained incriminating pictures (i.e. the councillors with hookers)…

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  19. petefleet says:

    For those of you who want size and grit, Stephen MacAulay and Stefan Fournier are in the prospects camp as tryouts. Both guys won the Mem Cup this year with the Halifax Mooseheads and both are heart and soul kind of guys. I’m not saying they’ll make it. I’m saying they both have something that the Habs are lacking….size and grit. Fournier is amazing in front of the net and drives hard to it. He’s also a great team player as evidenced by his actions on the famous Drouin play where he finished but let Drouin drive the bus for the high fives. Great guys….both.

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    • Maritime Ron says:

      Saw a few games this year and really liked Fournier. Big guy, sticks up for his mates, has no problem hanging out in the crease. Skating may be an issue but one never knows.

  20. SlovakHab says:

    Does Darren Dreger have an opinion outside “that’s a good fit” for any potential or actual free agent signing?

    VL to Philly makes sense to him, as well as Briere to Montreal.

    Because Habs need more washed-up small players that rejected them in the past, and Philly shouldn’t spend on goalie and defencemen, right?

    Both of these do not make any sense at all, whatsoever. Why does Dreger need to say positive stuff to please media at all times?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Dreger to me is always concerned he say positive things related to teams and the league. I think most of his sources are mgmt. within NHL teams and the League’s head office. The only time in recent history I remember him saying anything slightly controversial was during the discussion of Calgary’s RFA offer for O’Reilly.

      His brother in law is Nonis in T.O. so you will definitely never hear anything negative as it relates to the Leafs.

      • Maritime Ron says:

        Burly
        I always believed his snoops were the player agents.
        They know everything and can create a rumor/market by just dropping some info to media guys

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I am sure he has contacts there as well, but he is so overtly protective of all things NHL that I figured he had some serious contacts within the mgmt. I just find him very vanilla in his assessments of most player movement.

          • Maritime Ron says:

            Burly
            He has to play nice or his contacts will shut him out. Without his contacts, he is a radio announcer in Moose jaw

      • twilighthours says:

        According to my one source, dreger has every NHL player’s phone number

  21. doug19 says:

    I am surprized Kristo is 23 and it doesn’t seem a mature 23. He has blazing speed but has not been very consistent. Perhaps this is the wake up call he needs. He may be a one game out of 3 flash. He did not do much it seems in Hamilton for all his promise.

  22. HabFanSince72 says:

    If I understand correctly, RSE are not paying Glendale $15M/yr to lease the arena. It’s the other way round. The city is paying RSE $15M/yr if they agree to lease the arena.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You are correct, essentially the Yotes new owners walk in almost risk free. With the opt out clause after 5 years, assuming the owners move the team, what is to stop them from then selling the franchise in a new location and make a bundle of money.

      The city of Glendale would have been better off actually owning the team and then sell them to another city. The whole thing seems very strange and convoluted.

  23. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    I think some people on here seem to overlook the fact that Vinny does not want to play here. Forget Lecavalier,,think Galchenyuk,Eller!!
    As for the Kristo trade,i have never seen something so minor been blown so out of proportion,take their shoelaces away. Seems to be a real size,losing long dongcontest,insecurity complex going on here. OMG,we traded 2 kids that have yet to play in the NHL and one happens to be an inch smaller!
    In the last 3 months reading posts on here is like some strange mathematical language. “Is he 5’11?,5’9!,6’2.,maybe he can grow another 1″,so and so is 5″ more/less than so and so!”
    There will be plenty of size and balance in the future and we are not going to be contending for a cup for 3 years at least so just relax and ride the wave.

    Emelin,Patches,Eller,Chucky,PK,Tinordi,McCarron,Dietz,de la Rose,Prust,Price,etc,aren’t going to be needing platform shoes to get on any ride at disney land. Nevermind future picks prospects and signings.

  24. Marc10 says:

    I recall seeing the Thomas kid when he played his one game. He was one of the better Rangers on the ice that night. We of course shut them out…

    I think I’ll hop onto GameCenter tonight to refresh my memory. If it’s the kid I’m remembering, he wasn’t bad at all.

  25. habs1992 says:

    So the lease is OFFICAL 15 years 15 million, but the City of Glendale can OPT out after 5 years if they are losing money, so basically. We’ll see ya in 5 years.

    I support Carey Price

  26. jols101 says:

    Watching that city council meeting was more entertaining than watching the ‘Yotes play hockey.

    • habs1992 says:

      No I must say im 20 years old usually don’t enjoy that kind of stuff, but i was actually enjoy that council meeting. It was weird, im a bit drunk but still.

      I support Carey Price

    • Jim Edson says:

      nah watching the NHL drain 350 mill plus from Peladeau for an expansion team will be far more entertaining!

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      What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

      In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

      They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

      ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

  27. habs1992 says:

    Phoenix is changing there name TO ARIZONA COYOTES
    I support Carey Price

  28. habs1992 says:

    THE COYOTES ARE STAYING, the vote passed 4-3 voted YAY to keep them there.

    I support Carey Price

  29. The Jackal says:

    Is this still going on? I don’t have TSN…
    Please NHL. GTFO of Phoenix.

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  30. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …whew ! …listening to the light-weights on the Glendale City Council I can see why this issue was so dysfunctional

    • Jim Edson says:

      Chris , city councils are a magnet for poseurs and politico wannabes .

      the red lights go on and its show time with many agendas.

      ———————————————————————-
      What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

      In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

      They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

      ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

  31. habs1992 says:

    “I don’t know if we’re fixing a problem or delaying a problem” – Mayor Weiers

    I support Carey Price

  32. habs1992 says:

    The Mayor wants the Coyotes GONE

    I support Carey Price

  33. habs1992 says:

    Did this councillor just compare RSE to firemen rushing into a fire? Good lord

    I support Carey Price

  34. SlovakHab says:

    Hal Gill on waivers.
    Would take him on our bottom pairing for PK duties for sure, if I had a choice between him & freakin’ Bouillon.

  35. habs1992 says:

    THE ARIZONA COYOTES ARE STAYING, LOL thats what the Vice Mayor just said, i dont know it serious or joking ARIZONA COYOTES

    I support Carey Price

  36. habs1992 says:

    I would like to be a Mayor at Glendale its just a big Comdey Fest, Am i watching a JUST FOR LAUGHS GAG, or a city meeting.

    I support Carey Price

  37. habs1992 says:

    The Counciller Firemen is crying on the podium, I dont know where he is going with this, but its kind of a love fest

    I support Carey Price

  38. habs1992 says:

    Looks like the Yotes are staying in Glendale.

    I support Carey Price

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      And the tax payers get a fund a team for a billionaire in order to keep a hockey team no one wants in a city that can’t even fund their police and fire departments. Bravo Bettman he could sell an ice machine to an Eskimo.

      • Jim Edson says:

        and you know all this how?

        ———————————————————————-
        What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

        In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

        They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

        ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

  39. habs1992 says:

    Counciller Martinez says keep the Coyotes, YAY

    I support Carey Price

  40. habs1992 says:

    HAHHAHAHA, That old fat lady is going nuts in there, the crowd was like ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. She said she can do what she wants

    I support Carey Price

  41. Un Canadien errant says:

    I love how on the Rangers blogs Danny Kristo is a six-footer, whereas here, he’s only an inch taller than Christian Thomas, so really, their height is a wash, practically the same.

  42. Sportfan says:

    Can the Coyote crap just end and move that team, its so boring I actually don’t know whats going on anymore, because I’m so tired of it!

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  43. habs1992 says:

    YESSSSSSSS THE COYOTES ARE SAVED. Says no one in Phoenix HAHAHAHAH

    I support Carey Price

    • Jim Edson says:

      keep tipping them back and you are omniscient or clairvoyant !

      ———————————————————————-
      What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

      In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

      They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

      ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

  44. commandant says:

    I still don’t get the angst on this trade.

    Kristo wasn’t exactly a big powerforward type, in fact Thomas might be a bit grittier of the two players.

    Really though, the trade is a wash, there isn’t much difference between the two guys… same position, both undersized, both good skaters, both offensive…. Kristo a bit better passer, Thomas with the better shot….. as I said in my piece, we traded a case of coke for a case of pepsi, essentially the same thing with minor differences.

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    • Sportfan says:

      I read your article just now, I liked it and I feel the Habs got a decent player I guess the concern really is the size thing, but he seems like a Gally and he’s a good old Canadian Kid!

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      • commandant says:

        Yeah, I get the size concerns… but the difference between Kristo and Thomas is Negligible…. its not like we took Jarred Tinordi and traded him for Jordan Subban or something.

        We took an undersized forward who plays more of a perimeter game, for a smaller guy who plays a bit grittier. Its a wash.

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        • Stevie.Ray says:

          My issue was that I wanted us to trade Kristo but I was hoping we would be able to trade for an asset we could use. I never saw Kristo as being able to make the jump to the NHL, and I don’t see Thomas making it either. It takes a special kind of small player to make the NHL, and I don’t see either as being that special. Particularly not special enough to push Gio or Gally out of a job and there isn’t much room for any more small players.

    • Habilis says:

      You’re bang on with your analysis, IMHO. Your conclusion of this being “a wash” is exactly why I’m not a fan of it. I’m not saying it’s an awful move, I just don’t understand why MB is making lateral moves at all.

      It makes me think that the character issue with Kristo was the deciding factor. I’m not saying that’s necessarily a bad thing, I just wish we knew the whole story. Which of course, we never will. MB is way too classy to slam anyone publicly, even after they’re gone.

  45. habs1992 says:

    WOW Glendale cant afford to hire cops and firefights CRAZY

    I support Carey Price

  46. hab fan in leaf jungle says:

    McCarron will never make it to the NHL. American kids don’t like playing in Canada and esp. Quebec. Max Pac is a bit more cosmopolitan. This is a wasted 1st round draft pick on a US player. College players (goalies are an exception) don’t enjoy much success in the NHL esp. after a 4-year stint in uni.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Yeah, it’s not like we had 7 Americans on our team last season including our captain and 3 young players (Galchenyuk, Tinordi and Pacioretty).
      Plus Leafs have another 4, including Kessel, Gardiner and JVR.

      Americans don’t like playing in Canada??

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      He sounded happy when they drafted him. Lots of college kids make it to the NHL what the hell are you talking about?

      Andrew Cogliano
      Jay Pandolfo
      Rich Peverley
      Lee Stempniak
      Shawn Horcoff
      Rob Scuderi
      Rene Bourque
      Brian Gionta
      Stephen Gionta
      Hal Gill
      Chris Mueller

      All US players all came out of 4 years of college.

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      Being American has nothing to do with it. He won’t make the NHL because he’s a lump with no skill. I think the Americans might be best suited for MTL if they are open minded.

  47. Sportfan says:

    As many of us have said the trade is like the draft we won’t know for a couple of years. Maybe MB worked his magic and saw something he likes, but I’m not going to lie its a shame the guy isn’t a tad bigger.

    Although it does seem that Kristo could possibly be a player who has controversial moments.

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  48. Propwash says:

    Patience is a virtue, granted it has been stretched for years.
    I see the Kristo trade as a wash.

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  49. Timo says:

    You folks all sleeping?

  50. H.Upmann says:

    Nice contract Vinny. F’ it. We have Chucky now. Let’s get some more mofos up and do it with the young guys we have.

  51. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …if You can believe it, and interested, TSN is broadcasting live the city of Glendale meeting on an arena lease agreement

    …if You have nothing better to do :)

    • EL_PRESEDENTE says:

      been watching for 2 hours. That mayor sure has a sense of humor

      “Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the former.”- Albert Einstien

  52. habby46 says:

    Im still on the fence with Bergevin, I like some of his moves (prust, McCarron, Gomez, front office.) But some of his moves are very questionable (DD, Therrien?, and just the lack of trades involving vets.)
    The trade today I feel is a wash, if someone isn’t enthusiastic about playing in MTL i’m not sad to see them go.

    The decision to play Galchenyuk and Gallagher were a decision that wasn’t his alone, you have to know Therrien was very involved in that. For that it makes me wonder if these guys really do know what they are doing. But then they decide to give players like DD important minutes over guys like Eller.

    I will wait until this season to pass my judgement and hope they can get their poop in a group!

    • EL_PRESEDENTE says:

      MT was a brilliant hire, in my opinion

      “Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the former.”- Albert Einstien

  53. ClutchNGrab says:

    If MB would have signed Vinny for 5M per for 5 years (to outbid the Flyers) or if Kristo would have walked away a month ago for nothing, the amount of “he’s not a good gm” would be higher than it is today.

    I love it.

  54. habs1992 says:

    To make it even worse, I was there when Kristo was drafted and got to talk to him and got a picture with him, I told him bring the habs a cup, that will never happen now. Hand me another beer

    I support Carey Price

  55. Timo says:

    Loonie was right – Bergevin is just a big mouth and nothing else. (Now, i could have said I told you so but it has a lot less clout than Loonie’s being right so I’ll use him)

    Anyway… I threw the towel on Bergevin the minute he hired Therrien.

    • EL_PRESEDENTE says:

      tank baby tank

      “Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the former.”- Albert Einstien

    • thehabs21 says:

      I find it funny how the media and fans go nuts if there isnt a french coach and like French players dont even like playing in Montreal.

      Like i said, same damn team same shitty ass results. Habs wont land shit in the UFA market

      “I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears”

    • habs1992 says:

      Im just drinking this night away, Today was the worst day of my life to be a habs fan without the habs actually playing.

      I support Carey Price

  56. The Dude says:

    You blew it Vincent you f’n loser…and there goes destiny passing you by cause in Philly you be just another HAS BEEN !

  57. habby46 says:

    Okay, if we could land one free agent on friday who would you want?
    For me, it’s Jeff Shultz, he’s huge and could be worth the risk.
    Or Saku Koivu…just because he’s Saku!

  58. Haborama says:

    All I will say about Kristo is this: I had a lot better things to do in Uni than answer booty calls from anonymous coeds in -45 degree weather.

    If I did, than I would dress warmly, and wear winter boots instead of, oh I don’t know, TENNIS SHOES!

    If I had no other options but tennis shoes, I would wear socks.

    If I had no socks (in which case I would need to get a f*****g job for Gods sake) than I would tell little Ms. Thing to wait until tomorrow.

    And assuming I did wander into the bleak North Dakota wilderness in -45 weather like a horny Titus Oats, I would not get myself hammered drunk and high on various other substances before doing so.

    And If I lost a shoe, I would not dig in vain to find it like some drunk moron who needs to get a life.

    • The Jackal says:

      So you didn’t have much fun in college I take it?

      ______________________
      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • Haborama says:

        All I said is that I never did it in -45 degree weather mon ami :P

        • The Jackal says:

          Haha yeah I’m just joking. But going to school in the middle of nowhere makes ya do crazy things.

          ______________________
          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • Just A Guy says:

        ha! though I’m sure the point was more to the effect that, had Kristo taken his NHL career more seriously, he would still be a member of the Canadiens. If his actions are that of a passive aggressive spoiled brat, he got exactly what he wanted, out of Montreal and one year taken off his ELC. The truth is usually much more boring though…

    • bwoar says:

      And have you always been a sanctimonious asshole?

      “thoroughbred”

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      You have the steps in the wrong order. If you put getting drunk first and think after, it all makes sense.

  59. ClutchNGrab says:

    There was that weird news about Kristo on June 18. Roger Millions, from Calgary, referring to Corban Knight tweeted:

    “Knight adds that Danny Kristo his UND teammate could surprise next Sunday in Newark. #2013NHLDraft”

    https://twitter.com/RogMillions/status/347083473732894720

    Today, Millions tweeted around 7 pm:

    “For all you Hab fans hammering me on Danny Kristo. I guess the answer was two days after the draft. #Rangers”

    https://twitter.com/RogMillions/status/352194294859304960

    So how would a teammate of Kristo had any knowledge of the trade????? This is weird.

    Edit: The only logical explanation is Kristo didn’t want to sign with Montreal, but signed because he was promised to be traded during the draft. It is also possible that he had a say to which team he could be traded to. No team wanted to give a higher draft pick for Kristo, he was traded later.

    If that’s the case good thinking by Bergevin, he could have lost him for nothing like Anaheim with Justin Schultz.

  60. ProHabs says:

    In about 8 minutes, Bergevin can start talking with free agents (they can only sign on Friday though). Lets hope Bergevin isn’t at home in bed right now.

  61. Mark C says:

    Pascal Dupuis s’entend avec les Penguins. Contrat de 4 ans/15 millions. Clause limitée de non échange. #RDS

    Another disaster averted.

  62. deuce6 says:

    I would like Matt Hendricks on July 5..

    ——————
    Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

  63. jols101 says:

    If anyone needs some late night reading and a good laugh go to the RDS site and click on the VL story and read the comments. Crazy stuff.

  64. jedimyrmidon says:

    Some folks get really incensed over small things.

    Trading Kristo (who has had numerous incidents that would support the idea that he might find it hard to be a professional and dedicated hockey player) for Thomas was apparently the last straw for some.

    Oh, and, strangely enough, some are also picking on Bergevin’s emphasis on character. Y’know, I think it’s entirely reasonable to want a team full of guys with character. If one thinks of the sport of hockey, doesn’t it strike you as a character game? Battling through the playoffs and all that? Don’t worry: I’m sure Bergevin places emphasis on being able to play the game at a high level in the NHL too. Just because he doesn’t say it, doesn’t mean he’s forgotten it.

  65. sweetmad says:

    What a different song from yesterday,when everyone wanted Vinny,glad he didn’t sign here and never wanted him too.
    As for Cristo going couldn’t care less he’s gone,now if this new guy is as good as people say his Dad was,and if he is anywhere near as good as Gally,I don’t mind one bit,one little mixer on each line suits me fine,Gio will be gone soon,he can take his place.Christian can take some lessons from Gally.
    The new guys won’t be ready for a year or 2 and I have no problem with small guys ,I like Cane, StLouis, Grabner, Gally much more fun to watch than Chara or the likes of him,soeed and fire are better than thump and grunt.
    GOHABS GO

  66. Haborama says:

    Who is the yappiest, most hated player on the UFA market?

    We should sign him.

  67. slim wallet says:

    I suspect that Kristo signed with the proviso that the Habs trade him so that both parties got something out of the deal. Otherwise, Kristo was free to sign elsewhere.

  68. The Jackal says:

    Late to the party, but here it goes.

    Vinny… would have loved to see him in MTL, but not at that money and term, so we dodged a bullet there.

    Kristo trade – I’m not against dealing Kristo, but I don’t understand why get dealt him for a smaller player who is apparently just as talented as he is…

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Loonie says:

      It’s all because behind the scenes conflict forced Bergevin to acquire a player of similar and already readily available skills and size.

      That’s the rationaliz…….reason.

      • johnnylarue says:

        I’ll grant you that I’d have understood this Kristo thing a bit more if he’d been used as a bargaining chip to land Sam Morin at the draft, for instance.

        I do find the sideways-ness of this move a bit puzzling…

    • Psycho29 says:

      I was listening to Mitch Melnick on 690 around suppertime and for what it’s worth he said there were “other incidents” besides frolicking in the freezing snow barefoot that helped make the Kristo trade necessary.

      So good trade…..We will see where Kristo is in a few years..

      • johnnylarue says:

        If Chris Higgins taught us anything, it’s that being a young party monster in NYC is not necessarily the best for one’s hockey career…

    • Mark C says:

      Is it an impossibility that Montreal’s staff believe that Thomas’ potential impact is greater and or more likely than Kristo’s?

  69. christophor says:

    To be honest, Bergevin’s use the word “character” is starting to make me cringe a little. Important? Yes. But it’s weird that it’s the go-to attribute rather than something important and a bonus on top of the most important things like, you know, talent.

    • Steven says:

      I know what you mean. It feels sort of like MB’s going all Moneyball on us, using character as a sort of unmeasured stat.

      It could work though. Our run to the ECF was more about character than talent, I feel(lots of D-zone dedication, Halak and Cammalleri performing at a MUCH higher level than their best which I consider a character thing, 110% and all). So it could work. Thankfully the team is talented, and not just a bunch of Darches or Armstrongs cuz of character.

      • Loonie says:

        Cammalleri and Halak.

        That team was about a mixture of both but its key components were all about talent and far less about character.

      • christophor says:

        I don’t think replicating that kind of run is something to aim for.

        I’d love to have a team of character guys: guys I like as people. But I want my team to win more than I want a healthy locker room. The latter helps to get the former, but if you aim for the latter, you won’t get the former.

    • Loonie says:

      The Jacksonville Jaguars have LOADS of character.

    • HardHabits says:

      He used “size and grit and character” recently. He’s my hero.

      • christophor says:

        When he’s asked about an asset that’s been acquired under his leadership, the first sentence seems to be, “He’s got a lot of character”. That was the first line about Thomas too, so we know Bergevin doesn’t think all the criteria you list are essentially linked. In fact, if someone’s all about size and grit, they might also ask why Bergevin’s giving the impression that character is foremost. I doubt that’s what he actually thinks, but I was just posting about something that was getting on my nerves: always starting with that same sentence when it comes to an acquisition/pick

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      My goodness, now we’re picking on Bergevin’s choice of words and attributes he values.

      Believe it or not guys, I think he appreciates talent, hockey sense, skating technique, etc, etc as well! And believe it or not, his goal is NOT to fill this team with 3rd and 4th liners!

      • Loonie says:

        When you’re right you’re right.

        Drewiske, Bouillon, Armstrong, Moen.

        • jedimyrmidon says:

          Yup, those are the main cogs driving the Habs forward as envisioned by MB.

          Hm, Armstrong is gone though. He was on the Habs for all of one season. I bet Bouillon will be gone too by the end of next season.

          Drewiske is making something like league minimum. Cheap depth.

          That leaves Moen.

          • Loonie says:

            What integral players has he acquired?

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            At this point, as you’ve remarked before, MB is planning on doing it through the draft. Prust is pretty integral though.

            Edit: I’ll be disappointed if MB doesn’t start acquiring key players once the team’s prospect pool has started maturing though. Have the pool as a foundation then start risking things when some young guys like Galchenyuk, Eller and Gallagher have progressed enough to carry the load.

      • christophor says:

        if it was as easy as having the right intentions…..

        hey, i’m not too down on the guy, but you’re a crystal clear example of the majority opinion: the guy’s beyond criticism.

  70. HabCez says:

    Hmm.. Komisarek 2.0?
    He did play well with Markov and he can still intimidate and hit.
    We do need a yapper.. I don’t like the idea of Gallagher being our sole pest.
    He is still only 31 of age.
    Although the injuries and Lucic incident is still fresh in my/our minds,
    I would still give him a chance at redemption.
    A 2-way contract. Or if no other team is interested, an invite to camp.

    “Emelin’s the real deal.”
    - HabCez

  71. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So let me get this straight about Marc…

    - nominated as one of the top GMs in the league.
    - gets an ‘A’ rating for this past draft.
    - trades Kristo for Thomas.
    - can’t sign Vinnie (bullet dodged…).

    And now he is a bum who knows squat about hockey and is all hot-air?

    Tough crowd…

    EDIT: wasn`t there a tweet from a former teammate of Kristo`s that said something about a surprise? Maybe there was a deal in the works…here two days later, he is now gone.

    • Haborama says:

      He likes players who are smaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllll

    • zephyr says:

      mb knows what he’s doing. he wants balance. bickell allowed cane & toews to play their game. I don’t think anyone ever projected him as a top-6 player. drouin is 5’10 & 186 but that didn’t stop him from going 3rd. the habs need some hulks that can play to open up the ice for guys like gallagher & dd. dd is a gifted player but he has to have the right guys to play with. McCarron & crisp have a chance to be those bruisers. de la rose is going to be big too & already has a high skill level. u have to make those picks.
      defense is another matter. u can’t have more than 1 small dman on the roster. even that 1 guy needs a bruiser to play with or he’ll get rag-dolled esp in the playoffs where the officiating is worse than incompetent. that’s where the habs most pressing need is. diaz, markov, georges, bouillon aren’t physical enough. pk should have a bruiser to play with as well so he doesn’t have to deal with all the crap other teams target him with.

  72. jimmy shaker says:

    Vanek and Miller available……..anyone?……anyone?

    Shaker out!

  73. Haborama says:

    We need players who play with grit and intensity, particularly a player who can take a load off Prust.

    Clarkson will be way overpaid, he’s safely out of question.

    I would sign Horton in a split second, but he would not come cheap.

    Ryane Clowe would not command the same price as the other two, his 2013 season was a disaster, and that’s got to hurt his value.

    If he can be had for 3 years at 4.5 million per, than I would say DO IT, any more would be over-payment beyond reason.

    Mark Fistric is a gimmie on D, he would come relatively cheap, and fill a specific need for a crease clearing #5 D. He sure as hell is better than Drewskie, but than again, so are most semi-pro players……..

    Rob Scuderi is a guy who would be able to play more minutes, but is not as physical as Fistric.

    Trevor Gillies is a win-win, you pay him the league minimum, keep him in the press box for most games, and unleash him against Boston, Toronto, Philly, and Ottawa. He is literally the 14th forward, so he won’t bring down any line-mates.

    Doug Murray is a MONSTER, kinda slow, but a great stop-gap on D.

    Again, I’m not suggesting to go all-out on big name UFA’s, All I’m suggesting a=is that MB should at least have the sense to fill some holes with available role players who can perform specific duties until the prospects like McCarron and Crisp are ready.

  74. Loonie says:

    Jarred Tinordi for Ryan Murphy……coming to a theater near you.

  75. donmarco says:

    Does anyone else think that the 2 stupidest teams so far this off season are Philadelphia and Edmonton? OK, Calgary, but I said stupidest, not most incompetent.

    How Holmgren keeps his job is beyond me. He now has to dump salary to get back under the cap, and he still only has 1 goalie signed, and an unproven one at that. And their defence is in a shambles as it is. Snider is an absolute idiot for keeping him.

    And what does MacTavish do? Tells the entire NHL, through the media, that 2 of his highest paid players won’t be back. Immediately undervalues both of them. That team is actually going backwards.

    One last comment. I’d bet anything I own that Kristo was not traded for hockey related reasons. There’s something about him that concerns the Habs greatly, and we’ll never know what that is. At least the kid we got has some upside.

    Hockey on my mind all the time, and it’s July 2. Kinda pathetic, but can’t help it.

    “Fans don’t boo nobodies”. Reggie Jackson


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