Habs trade Danny Kristo to Rangers; Lecavalier going to Flyers

The Canadiens announced on Tuesday afternoon that they have traded Danny Kristo to the New York Rangers in exchange for right-winger Christian Thomas.

Kristo, the Canadiens’ second-round draft pick in 2008 (56th overall) posted 26-26-52 totals in 40 games last season with the University of North Dakota and was a finalist for the Hobey Baker Award, which goes to the outstanding player in NCAA hockey.

Thomas, a 5-foot-9, 170-pounder, posted 19-16-35 totals in 73 games with the AHL’s Connecticut Whale and played one game with the Rangers last season, going pointless against the Canadiens on Feb. 23. He was the Rangers’ second-round draft pick (40th overall) in 2010. Thomas is the son of Steve Thomas, who played 20 seasons in the NHL.

Meanwhile, TSN reported on Tuesday evening that free-agent Vinny Lecavalier has agreed to a five-year, $22.5-million deal with the Philadelphia Flyers that includes a full no-movement clause. Under new NHL rules this season, following the lockout, teams were permitted to talk to players and their agents as early as July 1, but no contracts can be signed until July 5.

Christian Thomas is a gifted goal scorer with lots of speed,” Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin said in a statement. “He has been very productive offensively at the junior level with 137 goals before adding 19 more as a rookie with Connecticut in the AHL last season. This young 21-year old forward has shown tremendous character.” 

Thomas, who is from Toronto, played junior hockey with the OHL’s London Knights and Oshawa Generals, registering 257 points (137 goals, 120 assists) in 244 regular-season games from 2008 to 2012.

Tuesday was also the deadline for teams to extend qualifying offers to their restricted free agents. Ryan White, Gabriel Dumont and goaltenders Dustin Tokarski and Robert Mayer were all qualified by the Canadiens, while defenceman Yannick Weber, who was a healthy scratch most of last season, was not and becomes an unrestricted free agent. Bergevin tried to trade Weber, but there were no takers and he’s giving the 24-year-old a chance to revive his career elsewhere. Forward Ian Schultz and defenceman Joe Stejskal also became UFAs when the Canadiens didn’t offer them contracts.

The Canadiens open their annual development camp on Wednesday morning in Brossard with 56 players taking part. The camp runs until Sunday. Twenty-eight of the players in camp were drafted by the Canadiens, including all eight picks from Sunday’s 2013 NHL draft. The featured attractions will be first-round pick Michael McCarron and second-round pick Zach Fucale, the first goaltender selected at the draft. Four players who have already seen action with the Canadiens — Jarred Tinordi, Nathan Beaulieu, Greg Pateryn and Louis Leblanc — will also take part in the camp.

All players will participate in off-ice testing at Brossard’s Bell Sports Complex on Wednesday, beginning at 8:30 a.m.. The first on-ice practice session will start at 4:30 p.m.

On-ice practice sessions (three groups) will take place in the morning for the reminder of the camp, with scrimmages at the end of the day. A two-team intrasquad game will be played on Sunday at 9:30 a.m.

All practices are open to the public.

(Photo by Phil Carpenter/The Gazette)

Lecavalier goes to Flyers, Habs trade Kristo, by Pat Hickey

McCarron loaded with potential, ex-coach says, by Brenda Branswell

56 players to take part in development camp (with roster), canadiens.com

Top 25 free agents, canadiens.com

Bergevin tries to follow Blackhawks’ blueprint, NHL.com

Canadiens given grade of ‘A’ for NHL draft performance, SI.com

A salute to NHL scouts, SI.com

Letang agrees to eight year, $58-million deal with Penguins, NHL.com

1,591 Comments

  1. NCRhabsfan says:

    What the h*ll? They traded Kristo for a smurf. Thomas probably never scores an NHL goal. Is this team determined to be the smallest worst team in NHL history? Terrible, terrible terrible trade. Did MB have a few too many beers at lunch? Rangers killing themselves laughing over that one. They have come to count on the Habs trading them blue chip prospects for garbage.

  2. Haborama says:

    If Ballard were two inches taller, I would be all for signing him.

    But MB will likely either not sign anyone or sign another bunch of two foot tall punching bags.

    It’s like Reggie Houle and PG had a baby and named it Marc Bergevin.

  3. youngwun says:

    So weak I been following Kristo for years. I couldn’t wait to see him play for the Habs . Now he’s gone just like that !

  4. bel33 says:

    New thread everyone… shall we check out the other pub now?

  5. The Dude says:

    Hey M.B. forget about Gerbe … get this guy… http://tinyurl.com/mo253wo ;)

  6. Lafrich says:

    I am begging anybody who listens and has any sort of authority (Timo, perhaps?), PLEASE DO NOT SIGN BRIERE!!!

  7. Fake says:

    TIMO:
    That Wiki link you sent regarding the habs draft had Nathan Beaulieu listed as american and playing for the Sarnia Sting. -_- Fixed.

  8. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Good Morning HIO !

    …H.I.S. ‘ (call Me maudit Chris :) , rhymes with H.I.S.) first-thought following My black coffee and bacon & egg bagel was the realization the Philthydelphia Phlyers now own/rent Couturier, Giroux and Lecavalier down the middle :(

    …besides a classic example of the maxim ‘if Ya can’t beat Them, join Them’ …it also tells You something smells in Denmark, or something, about Our Habs

    • Bripro says:

      G’morning, Chris?
      What time is it where you are?
      Where are you…. Hawaii?

      Lazy bugger…

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …11:00 AM here in Surrey (Garden of Eden on the Pacific :) ) Bri

        …I’m retired ! …remember ???

        …jealous ? :)

        • Bripro says:

          You’re bleeping right I’m jealous!

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …thought so :)

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …so, Bri, how do You feel about getting real and re-naming Our Team the Montreal Americains

            …does it have a certain ring of reality that ‘canadiens’ do not ?

          • Bripro says:

            ;)
            I guess it would go along with our country’s structure since 1812.

            If they do however, that’s the end of hockey for me.
            I don’t care where they come from, as long as they have a winning philosophy.
            But they should re-name the ‘yotes the “undecideds”

  9. Strummer says:

    No surprise-PK is a First Team All Star.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=676355&navid=nhl:topheads

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  10. B says:

    Clarkson in 12/13:
    25th in number of fights
    69th in goals per game
    107th in hits

    Career:
    .39 ppg RS (.31 ppg playoffs)
    .22 gpg RS (.11 gpg playofs)

    Is he really worth $5M-$6M on a long term contract?
    Why hasn’t NJ offered that much to keep him?

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Fake says:

      NJ always lets players go. idiots.

      EDIT: I forgot about Zajac, my bad. Lmfao.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      The Bickell contract is a good comparable, but someone will overpay. I think it will be the Leafs.

    • mark-ID says:

      No, he absolutely isn’t. Unfortunately in a thin/weak draft like this years…..UFA are going to get overpaid. There could be an argument that he would be worth between 5-6 mil on a shorter contract though. He has never had more then 46 points in a season.

      It’s a shame that even with constant lockouts, the owners never learn.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I’m dying for a player like him but not at that price. If we could land him for $4.5M or even bend to $5M for three years I’d go for it.

      But not $5M or 6M for five plus years.

      We’re going to have to develop our own goal scoring tough guys. That’s why we drafted Mike McCarron.

      • B says:

        I suspect he has already turned down better than that from NJ. He is a solid player that any team would like to have, but I don’t think he is worth over paying a lot for on a long term deal. I am also not sure if he would ever be a 25 to 30 goal scorer in Montreal. I agree that some team will overpay (and good for Clarkson to cash in big time while he can – can’t blame a guy for doing that).

        –Go Habs Go!–

      • NCRhabsfan says:

        McCarron might be traded before the end of the development camp. The NY Rangers have a 4’6″ speedster that scored 7 goals in a ladies’ league last year that they’re dangling in front of MB. I don’t think he can resist adding another tiny forward…

    • 44har48 says:

      My brother is a huge lifelong Devils fan and he says simply put, Clarkson is a quality player but no F’ing way he is worth the money he will command in this sorry market. They are happy to let him walk for the kind of money he is demanding, and will get.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Let others experience what it is like to overpay for players whose career years played out in the Devils system. Been there done that twice.

        “May you live in interesting times.”

  11. Chris says:

    Now that is some pure comedic gold from the Professional (?) Hockey Writers Association (PWHA).

    They managed to name Alex Ovechkin as the First All-Star Team right wing (no problem) and the Second All-Star Team left wing (umm…what?) at the same time.

    Well done, hockey journalists. Well done.

    • krob1000 says:

      I think it is their publicist or editor who should dropped the ball why would they not just have him be first team RW and the next highest LW vote gets the 2nd line spot? I can see the writers making the mistake initially as he did play both positions..sot he voting I understand….but how it gets to be released..that is the issue…wow…just wow.

      • Chris says:

        Well, that is certainly an issue. But it also messes up the ordering of the players because some guys might have changed their votes if they thought that Taylor Hall was going to get the 2nd team All-Star spot. He was good last season, but that is a bit lofty for his performance.

        Hall had 16 goals, which ranked him tied for 35th in the league. He did finish 9th in the league in points.

        But my problem is that he played for the Run-and-Gun Oilers, a team that simply refused to try to play defence. If his numbers were staggeringly high I could understand it. But they weren’t. I think Andrew Ladd was far more deserving.

        Taylor Hall:

        45 GP, 16 G, 50 PTS, 18:47 TOI, 3:14 PP TOI, 0:03 SH TOI, 24 HITS, 20 BS, +5

        Andrew Ladd:

        48 GP, 18 G, 46 PTS, 19:40 TOI, 2:39 PP TOI, 1:24 SH TOI, 98 HITS, 26 BS, +10

        Hall gets a very slight edge offensively, but Ladd is a much more complete player. Hall is going to be a perennial pick starting next year, so I’m not sure there should have been a rush to name him to the All-Star team quite yet given that he is one of the leaders in the Oilers’ young stars reluctance to play defensive hockey.

        But the writers were simply idiots on this vote. Hall finishes 3rd, and then Zetterberg (who primarily plays as a centre) finished 4th. Ladd came in 5th.

        • krob1000 says:

          I am from Kingston, my boys have skated with Taylor Hall…he is a great kid….therefore I cannot engage in this conversation!!!

          • Chris says:

            I have no problem with Hall. I love his style of play. Just think it was a year too early for the honour.

        • Lafleurguy says:

          More rational thinking will “probably” prevail in selecting players for Sochi. Plekanec, Pacioretty, Subban, and MAYBE Price and Galchenyuk will be there, Hall will not.

          “May you live in interesting times.”

  12. Fake says:

    I know everyone is speculating he was traded for his off ice issues, attitude, character etc… Watch some episodes of “Through these doors”…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZQh2ktdkgGI#t=316s

    “He would take a bullet for any guy on the team.”

    • Puck Bard says:

      Meh. Ginger-Weasley-Wannabe… Hand-me-down hoodie… red hair…

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Another incredibly stupid move my MB. Just what the Habs needed, ANOTHER 5’9″ forward, this one a robust 162 lbs! I’ll bet the Bruins and Senators are trembling…. Here’s betting Kristo scores more game winning goals against the Habs than Thomas scores in the NHL.

  13. jedimyrmidon says:

    Hockey is a strange major league sport.

    The NHL probably has the largest proportion of markets that would be considered ‘non-traditional’ compared to the NFL, NBA or MLB. In those other sports, almost no matter where you play, you will be under pressure to perform and produce results.

    In the NHL, hockey players have the chance to make millions while playing in very forgiving markets with smaller crowds, and little media attention/intrusion in their lives. I don’t think it’s any mystery that players would jump at the chance of avoiding the media.

    To me, it just signals, in a sense, another disadvantage big market teams with rabid fan bases have.

  14. krob1000 says:

    I mentioned it before but the more I keep reading about Keith Ballard I think you may have the reclamation project/opportunity the Habs need. HE is a pretty tough, great hitting, again dman who can play a two way game. He was slowed by injury and then never seemed to get into Vigneaults good books. He has been playing out of postion on his wrong side, playeed forward and never really been given a chance to get back to where he was before injury….that could be a blessing though…he may have actually healed.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      For the right contract, might be a what have we got to lose proposition.

      Though, the same was said of Armstrong…player with something to prove who comes cheaply. Not that Armstrong was really a detriment to the team, but he wasn’t a huge contributor either…

      • krob1000 says:

        Ballard is not that hurt though…or slowing..he is still lightning fast. He became redundant when the Canucks signed Hamhuis…..since then he has never been given a chance. HE has been given very small chances ehre and thee but I can’t really find anyone trashing him….jsut more a victim of circumstance.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Who would he bump from the top 6 (with Emelin healthy)?

      • krob1000 says:

        Either Bouillon or Gorges. He is more phsyical than either, on par with Bouillon in toughness category, better puck mover than both, faster than both. If there is any truth to this rumour that Gorges is moveable…send him to Columbus…tehya re looking for heart. Both of those gusy get forced into spot pp duty in MOntreal…why? You could have Ballard for a fraction of the cost of Gorges, a guy easily capapble of taking the ofensive reigns for short stints when necessary, a guy who can be a threat from the left side of a pp behind Markov.

        I just can’t see the value in Gorges for his role on the Habs. I understand the value of Gorges the player…and his character,etc…but on the Canadiens that spot needs to be filled by someone who offers more than shot blocking….either offesne or toughness, ideally both is what is necessary there.

        • Ozmodiar says:

          Okay, so it would involve a trade. That’s the only way I could see it happening.

          As the roster stands right now, Ballard would look at the top 7 and see 5 guys he might not pass on a depth chart, plus a kid who will likely make the team (Tinordi), and a coach’s fave (Bouillon). There’s no way he’d sign here.

          Now, if a spot were to open up…. Logistics of a trade then sign would be tricky, though.

          • krob1000 says:

            The fact Emelin is out and the injury could possibly take longer and their gaems being similar are a factor too.

  15. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Also, Christian Thomas will be at the development camp

  16. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Hal Gill and SK74 both on waivers for Nashville….guessing they never make a trade with the Habs again…

  17. commandant says:

    The NHL and PHWA should be embarrassed

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/07/03/phwa-embarrasses-themselves-with-nhl-all-star-vote/

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I would have thought the league would be embarrassed when their freaking commissioner referred to the first wave of expansion clubs as the Original 12.? This league will never be embarrassed by any of its antics, including the behaviour of the league in Glendale.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Or the continued employment of Colin Campbell. Total disregard for the notion of ‘conflict of interest’.

        • johnnylarue says:

          “We really shouldn’t be surprised though, when the voting results were tallied for the NHL awards, we saw PHWA members giving votes to Patrick Kane, Nazem Kadri, and Jiri Tlusty for the Selke Trophy as best defensive forward.”

          Brutal. Reeks of ‘failed writers/journalists slumming it in the Sports section’.

  18. govenah says:

    Forget about Vinnie, forget about Briere.
    1.Lets trade DD and Gionta for a large solid right wing, Keep Halpern. And
    2. Upgrade Drewiske/Boullion/Georges, and get another large crease clearing stay at home defenseman.

    Just a few more pieces and the cup is ours.

  19. Ozmodiar says:

    The free agent pool is pretty damn shallow.

    At this point my “wish list” is down to one of Boyd Gordon or Matt Hendricks. That’s it. Hoping for a 4th line center. Sad.

    The only other forward that really interests me is Clarkson, but he’ll be too expensive. Maybe MB will sign Stalberg as a plan B.

    There are no holes to fill on D.

    So, if there’s going to be any excitment, it will have to be via trade.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Hendricks would be a great add.

    • I’d love an upgrade on D, but you’re right, there’s not much out there… Komi probably is an upgrade over Drewiske though.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      MB’s single biggest concern is on D. Remember Emelin is out until late Nov / early Dec. There is zero chance that MB starts the season with Tinordi holding one of six D spots. Habs would be one Dman injury from being out of the playoff picture before Dec. Tinordi will earn his initial bottom pairing stripes after 1-2 more call-ups.

      If the UFA bidding on Fistric is more than MB is willing to pay, he may go the trade route. Bieksa likely in play.

  20. HabFanSince72 says:

    Lebrun says 12 teams contacted Daniel Briere. In a way that’s good news. It means we are almost certainly going to be outbid.

    It’s odd that all the free agent talk is about Vinny, Briere, Horton, Clarkson, and no mention of Iginla.

  21. Strummer says:

    North American Central Scouting ranks the Canadian teams’ results in the 2013 draft.

    Habs ranked second after the Jets. Leafs were last.

    Freddie Gauthier- no big deal.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/02/jets-big-winners-of-draft-scouts-say

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  22. Timo says:

    Did Habs sign Grebe yet?

  23. Habfan17 says:

    Maybe the Habs should sign Teubert and Shultz. Teubert was ranked the 6th best prospect in Edmonton in Future watch and they would add a right handed and left handed shot with size.
    It would help balance out the D and then they could trade Gorges and possibly a forward, possibly for Perron.

    It is just my opinion, but perhaps this is why MB did not do anything yet, he wanted to see who would be available before giving up assets or signing a UFA and then having one he wanted more become available.

    Habfan17

  24. 44har48 says:

    I haven’t posted in a while, and most of you are probably thankful but here are my thoughts on recent developments.

    Draft: Well, what can you say. We have a very boring and conservative GM, and we were picking #25, so this was a yawner for me. I like the selections, think we drafted more for need than best available, but that’s not always a bad thing even though it is not my philosophy. We needed size up front and somebody legitimate to be ready in 5 years if Price doesn’t pan out the way we think. We got them both.

    Kristo: I watched this kid play a ton this year. I liked his game a lot but was always left wondering if he should be doing more and looking better against kids, for the most part, much younger than him in NCAA. I heavily discount the Quebec league and NCAA Juniors and Seniors. That’s just me. In the end, I think it was just all about character and MB didn’t have him down as part of the solution.

    Vinnie: Thank god we didn’t sign him. I just don’t get the comparisons to Allah or Jesus Christ and never have. Always thought he was overrated, didn’t ever want to play in Montreal, and now this latest contract is a complete joke on many levels (CBA, Flyers, Cap hit, ROI).

    That’s it for me folks, Take care everyone!

  25. johnnylarue says:

    “The Canadiens, having lost out on Lecavalier, made contact with Briere’s camp Tuesday night, a source confirmed to Pierre LeBrun.”

    Guys, tell me that’s a joke. It’s a joke, right? They’re just trying to make me upset.

    On the off-chance that it’s *not* a joke, do you think it’s possible our GM has a crack problem? Was he concussion-prone as a player?

    Could someone tell me exactly which “needs” a washed-up, undersized centre addresses on the current roster? I’m all ears.

    • Luke says:

      I’m hoping this is the conversation they had:

      “Hello, is this Briere’s Camp? Great. We are reaching out to you at this point to ask that you please stop calling us. Thanks.”

      Now truthfully, I’d be upset if they didn’t at least do some degree of investigation. Just because they want to get a sense of what he is asking for doesn’t mean it needs to go further.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Think of it this way
      If he doesn’t attempt to make contact (even if bogus) he leaves himself open to be criticised by a certain faction.
      Better to have said you tried, than not tried at all…

      • johnnylarue says:

        Fair–I know this at least makes it look like MB is doing his “due diligence” by putting in a courtesy call to a veteran Quebecois UFA.

        It still makes very little sense in hockey terms.

    • 44har48 says:

      Step away from the ledge :)….we are not signing anyone this offseason IMO. He might make a trade if the opportunity arose, but I don’t see this GM making any UFA moves of significance in this offseason. Or I should say I can see another Brandon Prust but not Briere, Vinnie, or Clarkson, etc.

      • johnnylarue says:

        What can I say… My confidence in the man was shaken with the Drewiske signing–which still makes little sense to me with guys like Schultz and Fistric becoming available–both capable, big, depth defencemen the likes of which we sorely lack.

        Initially it felt like every move MB made was 100% pure shrewdness, and forward-thinking, but I guess the honeymoon’s over. He’s human after all. Bummer.

        • Luke says:

          Not sure why the Drewiske signing has anyone riled up.

          Borderline NHL defenseman for minimal money. He’s the guy who fills out the bottom end of a Pro roster or the AHL. Would you rather have 600K of cap space in the pressbox or 1mil?

        • 44har48 says:

          That Drewiske signing definitely made me pause for a second and you are right on with our needs. Not sure how he helps fill them.

          I like his limited body of work so far, but like you, I will reserve my overall opinion until I see more action and results, or lack there of.

        • I like the Drewiske signing — not because he’s a top-six guy (he isn’t), but because he has no cap hit if he plays in Hamilton, and because we could do a lot worse either for a veteran D-man with the Bulldogs or for a pressbox-dwelling 7th defenceman with the big club.

          Totally agree with you that Schultz or someone else would be better, but there’s no guarantee that we’ll land a good physical D-man, especially with the UFA market so thin this year. Best case scenario: we go after other defencemen anyway, manage to land one or two of them for the right price/term, and then send Drewiske to Hamilton as super-cheap insurance in case of injuries or slow progression from Tinordi/Beaulieu.

          If I thought MB intended Drewiske to play a regular shift with the big club, I’d be disappointed too. But I really think he’s just plan C or D — not amazing, but I’m glad we have him.

          Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

        • Lafleurguy says:

          No way Schultz and Fistric were going to sign for Drewiske numbers.

          “May you live in interesting times.”

      • wjc says:

        Never say never. As far as Brier goes, Bergevin has to explore all options. What about a one year contract and see where that goes. Gives Galenchuck a chance to develop more. Gives Canadiens a little more depth until the fruit on the vine ripens.

        He has to explore all possibilites, and for the right price and the right term anything is possible.

        wjc

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Missed out on VL: Fine. He’s bit overpriced anyway, and the Habs have 3 top 9 centers already (ahem).

      Traded Kristo: Cool. Thomas is a better scorer, is grittier, and has no questions about his character. I would have preferred a “bigger” return, but hey, he’s only slightly smaller than Kristo.

      Talking to Briere: Hell no!!! WTF?!? Tell me this isn’t true! C’mon man!!

    • Whatever says:

      When the french media &*#$@% ask Briere if Montreal contacted him as an available UFA, he can now say, “Oui.”

  26. Bill says:

    Ed: Well, I know SOMEONE who had McCarron at 25, and he works for the Hans, ha.

    I have not seen McCarron play: you probably have, and I am not disputing that you are a better judge of talent and potential than I am, but I am sure the Habs’ interest in McCarron is based on something solid.

    Most of all, I believe that at that point in the draft teams are already starting to throw darts, so why not take a chance on this beastly, skilled forward?

    • Luke says:

      I agree Bill.

      They thought he was worth picking, and had reason to believe that someone would grab him before their first selection in the second round.
      At 25th, there wasn’t exactly a lot of room to trade down.

      If they hadn’t selected him, I’m sure there’d be a few voices around here saying that they passed on exactly the type of player we need…

      • Chuck says:

        Exactly.

        __________________________________________________
        Anyone but the Sens! (Check.) And Boston (Triple check.) Oh, and the Laffs, too. (Double check.)

    • Whatever says:

      Get the guy you want when you can, because the other team may want the same guy.

      Oh, and don’t hire a scouting staff if you are just going to draft according to the scouting bureaus and numerous pointless mock drafts.

    • krob1000 says:

      Well if Solo wants him than I can’t wait to see him as a Wookie. I am glad we Lando’d this guy where did in the draft.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Ha! Bingo!

  27. Haborama says:

    I’m really starting to think that MB selected Reeway and Andreghetto just to chirp Habs fans everywhere. A guy like that who pulls that kind of dirt bag stunt should not be GM.

  28. Haborama says:

    PK Subban named to First All Star Team

  29. krob1000 says:

    Any takers on Keith Ballard? only 5’11” but 207 lbs, good for 3 or 4 fights a year, can move the puck and is a mean hitter at times. etc,etc. Plays left side and could be interesting partner for Subban as he can also play two way game.
    Having a d corps with Subban, Emelin and Ballard would result in some serious hits…tehy all love to throw his checks and occasionally get burnt as a result…but teams have to be aware of them on the ice and that helps take their focus off of their task at hand.

    • Haborama says:

      His production in the past few years has been abysmal. Fistric or Schultz would be far better options.

      • krob1000 says:

        He never gets to play because Van D is so strong and he hardly dresses and when he does he doesn’t see much time. I just like that he can do more than just hit and shutdown and he has a history of being a two way guy.

        • bwoar says:

          Not so. Vancouver has has terrible injury trouble and they’ve played kids like Corrado and Tanev over him consistently. Ballard is just not worth it, period.

          “thoroughbred”

          • krob1000 says:

            perhaps for the same reason the Habs did not paly KAberle…trying to limit his possibility of injury given they knew they were buying him out? I have seen Ballard play several times nad have been impressed…he jsut has occasional brain cramps…I am wondering thought if those wouldn;t be limited now that he is 30 yrs old.

          • krob1000 says:

            HE also was forced to play his wrong side most of the time and some games at forward, between that and the press box the guys has been shuffled all over the place. The more I read the more I think there are still some good miles on him.

  30. Maksimir says:

    S.Kostitsyn being bought out… Komo bought out… A.Kostitsyn gone to the KHL… so ends an era of Habs past …

  31. habsfan0 says:

    Is there any word whatsoever as to who Nathan Horton’s agent is negotiating with?

  32. bwoar says:

    You would think that young McCarron saying that he models his game after Lucic would be viewed as a positive. You would think, if you weren’t involving Hab fans.

    I’m personally glad he didn’t say “I think of myself as a bigger Mike Cammalleri,” or, “I’ve always thought I was the American version of Claude Giroux”, or worse, “My mom always told me I was the Wayne Gretzky of sons, so I try to do that on the ice.”

    “thoroughbred”

  33. Bill says:

    @UCE: I read with pleasure your lengthy re-critique of the Canadiens’ draft. And now I wonder if your blog has been hacked as well, haha.

    I think you make interesting points as always, and I’m on my phone so it’s hard for me to go in depth in my response (and I apologize in advance for any autocorrect goofs) but simply put – I still don’t get your Johnny Cochrane level of outrage about this.

    McCarron is a solid pick at 25. There is absolutely no reason to think that the other players you mention will become better than him. They obviously scouted him heavily and really wanted him, and I’m inclined to think this was a very informed decision. I am recalling the comment about Zykov – made by Bergevin or Timmins, can’t remember – that they had watched him a lot and were very familiar with him. That means something when they pass him over like that.

    McCarron is a home-run swing. If he pans out, he could be amazing. But you know what, he is also a safe pick, because even if he doesn’t develop offensively, he’s still going to play an important role for the Habs at some point.

    I agree that de la Rose and Fucale are great picks.

    Then you kind of go off the rails. All of the players picked after these guys have a very slim chance of making it as NHL regulars, much less as stars. It’s total lottery stuff. Saying they should have picked this guy instead of that guy at number 106 is … I can’t find the word. At least a Reway has a chance of becoming something. He probably won’t make it but neither will the other guys you mention in his round.

    Anyway, a great read written by a passionate and intelligent fan, thanks for that. I just hope the Habs too four picks yield a couple of good players so that you will feel happier about the draft in a few years.

    Remember that the draft is a game of chance, even for the pro scouts, and sleep a little easier, haha.

    • Ed says:

      Bill, no one had McCarron at #25. Doesn’t that tell you something?

      It reminded me of those guys who go out and buy Hummers.

      • doc359 says:

        I remember reading that Chicago was very keen on them, which is why Habs picked him up when they did because they knew he wouldn’t make it past the Hawks at #30. I could be wrong though

      • Jonnyboy says:

        Lots had Jones at 1st and he dropped. Doesn’t that tell your something?
        Did you hear Jay Feaster talk after their 3rd pick? “The three picks that we made (in the first round) we had in the top 13 of our list,” Feaster told TSN.
        His last pick was at 28th. So 15 players were drafted ahead of their guy and they were laughing at their table pumped to get their #13 guy all the way down at 28.

        It’s really overlooked how differently each team thinks of guys.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        No draft pundit had him pegged at #25… BUT I bet 1) he could easily have been scooped up between #25 and #34 by another team and 2) other NHL teams were very interested in him.

      • wjc says:

        But, how could you wait until #34, he would most likely be gone. You have to jump on it, if you like him, waiting probably would not work.

        You go for your guy, even if it is a couple of players early, because early is better then too late.

        Hummers and the draft…….interesting…….I don’t get it?

        wjc

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Norman – Thanks for taking the time to do this. Your hesitation or frustration with the draft and the explanation you provide is exactly what I think I was enduring as well.
      I love the speed and skill aspect of the game and want my team to exhibit the most entertaining style possible while winning its share of games. As you pointed out its time I surrendered that thought and joined the face washing, cross checking, clutch and grab group.
      One question though. I don’t have to like it though, do I?

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Toronto Sun claim the best at the draft for Canadian team ,where Jet first then Habs ,Oiler,Canuck, Flames , Sens and last Toronto so what,s all the complainnig we just drafted the biggest player and the top goalie

  34. krob1000 says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426856
    Read Jarmo Kekalainen quotes….we need MB to get on the phone with him immediately. We have found our trade partner.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Good catch there krob 1000

      ” Kekalainen told the Columbus Dispatch that a scoring forward is definitely on his shopping list, but that they’re more interested in skill over size.

      “If you ask anybody, they’d take a 6-5 guy who scores 30 goals over a 5-8 guy who scores 30 goals,” Kekalainen told Aaron Portzline of the Dispatch. “But me personally, I prefer the small guys who play with big heart to the big guys who are less passionate.”

    • bwoar says:

      Nice! A shot at Umberger, maybe?

      “thoroughbred”

  35. Haborama says:

    Jeff Schultz would be a great signing, he sure as hell is better than Gorges.

  36. Sportfan says:

    I really hope we don’t sign Briere

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  37. Un Canadien errant says:

    When do we find out if Jeff Schultz was claimed on waivers? My Google skills fail me.

    Also, Keaton Ellerby was not qualified by the Kings. Do the Canadiens take a run at him? What do we know about him? Good man, intelligent? Or was he drafted under Project Bootstrap?

    • bwoar says:

      Ellerby is much younger than I thought. There’s a puzzler there.

      The problem with Schultz, is that he doesn’t hit. He doesn’t bring leadership. He IS used to playing the right side, which we do need, but I’d rather try to reclaim a younger Colten Teubert or a Theo Peckham than sign a guy we know is more gangly than gangbanger.

      “thoroughbred”

    • Habfan17 says:

      I do not know much about Ellerby, former first round pick, big frame, lefty, could be a good 5/6, and inexpensive.

      Habfan17

  38. habs_54321 says:

    im sure this has been talked about but how was it that flyers were able to sign vinny as a free agent when free agency only starts on july the 5th???

  39. Bripro says:

    This is a key reason whey Vinny didn’t want to come to Montreal.
    And for a player (Christian Thomas) who’s played one game in the NHL.

    • florida habs says:

      that’s a great pic .

    • bwoar says:

      Vinny can’t handle it, but there are some kids on the current team (A certain Russsian-American, for instance) who seem to do just fine. I’m looking forward to rolling over the Flyers this year.

      “thoroughbred”

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      I’m not sure I fully buy the fear of Montreal’s rabid media. I don’t believe it compares at all to what happens to football/soccer players in the English premiership. Yes indeed, those same wimps who roll on the grass crying tears and clutching their shins when they remember the last time someone nearly kicked them, those same guys are extremely tough when it comes to some of the crassest most tasteless and ruthless sports media coverage you’ll see anywhere. I strongly doubt the Montreal media can even hold a candle to the English tabloids. Bottom line, highly-paid sports professionals have to deal with it. As regards playing in Montreal, I’d say taxes, weather and language issues are the impediment cocktail from hell.

      • florida habs says:

        you are right about that, and in soccer you can’t get away from it, unless you are playing in NA. Hockey not so much, so maybe if you can avoid the fishbowl you weigh it out, but like you stated they are pros.

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          Cheers fh.
          Do you reside in Florida? I ask because, while I disparage the NHL having sunbelt franchises (and I know I’m not being entirely fair or pragmatic to do so), I always hold off on the two Florida teams (and was shouting for TB vs Calgary in 2004, much to the outrage of everyone I know in Canada!). However, this is because in high school geography we were once shown a world map indicating the presence of Canadians world-wide. Canada was of course solid red, and all other countries were white with a few red dots. Except Florida which was entirely pink!

          Long-winded question: is a sizable portion of TBL and Panther support Canadian expat?

          • florida habs says:

            yeah, I actually live 5 minutes down the road from the Panthers arena. There is a sizable Canadian population here, especially when you add in the snowbirds, unfortunately not the demographics for selling hockey tickets. All sports teams in MIA/FLL face the same issue, the population is transplanted from northern areas and there is not much allegiance to the local teams. The Marlins barely get a few thousand fans, after the county used tax payer money to fund the new stadium, and the hate for Loris is off the charts ( shud make Expo fans happy). The Dolphins new stadium proposal was just rejected. Panthers are currently looking for marketing folks to push tickets, especially looking for corporate sales to fill those nice center ice red seats you see that are empty. Tough sledding, cheers!

      • wjc says:

        Not sure I get your point, if English soccer players, had a choice,in most cases they would like the privacy aspect. Not all, but most, if the opportunity were there.

        Why does sports coverage have to be tasteless and ruthless.

        Bottom line if you are a highly paid professional and you do NOT have to deal with it, why would you?

        wjc

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          You’re right. English Premiership players don’t have a choice — utterly obnoxious, invasive tabloid coverage comes with the territory — whereas hockey players can choose to avoid it.

          I suppose I was obliquely expressing some wishful thinking: that hockey players who could get past the other drawbacks to playing in Montreal could develop the same coping mechanisms that English footballers have for handling the media. I wish media scrutiny wasn’t a reason not to play for the Habs. (How much worse can it be than in Boston, Toronto or Philly?)

        • florida habs says:

          we are saying the same thing, but in soccer, (unlike hockey) none of those markets exist, they are all media mad.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Greetings my good friend. I think Vinnie chose money and term over Montreal. From what I’ve read, the offer by the Habs was not close to what the Flyers had offered.

      • Ed says:

        I heard the habs offered 3 years and 9 million.

        That’s not even Desharnais money for goodness sakes.

      • HardHabits says:

        Thankfully!

      • Bripro says:

        Hi Jim, I sat back and read most posts over the last little while, but chose to abstain (mostly) for fear that some posters here, with blood in their eyes and steam out their (orifice), were members of the NRA.
        But the draft is over, and the 5th is around the corner, so it’s time to stoke the embers a little.
        Good thing no one here is a GM.
        We’d always have the draft’s first selection. :)

  40. Haborama says:

    so apparently McCarron has come forward to say that he models his game after Lucic’s.

    He says that he has not talked to Lucic yet, and that it won’t be a pleasant conversation when he does.

  41. Maritime Ron says:

    Pierre LeBrun
    Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli confirms reaching out to Alfredsson camp: “Yes, I have spoken to Alfie’s agent at length today.”

  42. Bill says:

    HF72: Bergeron is a great player though. I think there is no way the Bruins could not sign him. Any team would do the same.

  43. Ozmodiar says:

    I see that someone was asking about what Perron said on 690 this morning…

    I’m sure the interview is online somewhere, but from memory…

    He was asked if he thought he was going to be traded:
    – he thought that there was a good chance it would happen @ the draft. now that the draft is over, less so. during the draft he was refreshing his twitter feed every 30 seconds. :)

    He was asked if he’d like to play in Mtl, and whether he’d enjoy the hockey mad market:
    – he said he’d relish the opportunity. (of course)
    – he said the key to playing in front of these fans was that you had to enjoy entertaining them. He said it’s why Subban is so successful here. He said he is a lot like that. (his favorite player was Kovalev, which explains a lot)

    /for what it’s worth

  44. HabFanSince72 says:

    Patrice Bergeron about to hit the jackpot. 8 years at $6.75M/season. For a guy who is more fragile than a teenager’s ego.

  45. habsfan0 says:

    Mike Cammalleri is getting married later this month.
    My invitation appears to have been lost in the mail.

  46. Maritime Ron says:

    This has to make Ottawa GM Bryan Murray happy today

    Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
    Can confirm via a source that Boston Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli has already reached out to Daniel Alfredsson’s camp today.

  47. Maritime Ron says:

    :-)
    Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
    Buffalo puts Nathan Gerbe on waivers

    ( Gerbe is 5’5″)

    Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun
    Preds put Sergei Kostitsyn on waivers

  48. Un Canadien errant says:

    I had a Liveblog/meltdown on Sunday while watching the NHL draft, and was taken to task by several posters regarding my negative reaction and obsession with player size. Some speculated that my account was hacked.

    Anyway, I’m not entirely better quite yet, I’m still a little disappointed, amateur scout by proxy that I am. So here’s my critique of my critique, in link format, since HIO wouldn’t allow me to post such a weighty tome.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/07/a-critique-of-canadiens-2013-draft.html

  49. Bripro says:

    Do any of you remember when Tucker Carlson called we Canadians,
    the USA’s retarded little cousins?
    As a journalist (albeit tongue in cheek being on FOX), I wonder what he would have to say if he were to wake up in an Arizona hotel this morning.
    How can any US citizen claim that we’re more retarded than they are?
    Ever since butthead has tried to Americanize our glorious game, there have been more than one fiasco.
    Last night’s vote was just another head-scratcher.

    EDIT: Apologies to my American friends. It was meant to take a shot at those in the spotlight.

    • Could be wrong, but I believe he was still at the quasi-reputable CNN when he made that remark. I wouldn’t be surprised if that helped usher him out the door.

      Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”


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