Habs’ Therrien not among Jack Adams Award finalists

Michel Therrien took over a last-place team in the Eastern Conference when he was hired to coach the Canadiens last summer and turned them into Northeast Division champions and a second-place finish in the conference, but it wasn’t enough to be one of the three finalists for the Jack Adams Award that goes “to the NHL coach adjudged to have contributed the most to his team’s success.”

The NHL announced on Friday morning that the three finalists are Bruce Boudreau of the Anaheim Ducks, Paul MacLean of the Ottawa Senators and Joel Quenneville of the Chicago Blackhawks.

Quenneville won the award previously with the St. Louis Blues in 1999-2000, while Boudreau won it in 2007-08 with the Washington Capitals. This marks the second straight year MacLean is a finalist after losing to Ken Hitchcock of the St. Louis Blues last year.

The Canadiens do have three finalists for NHL awards: Brendan Gallagher is up for the Calder Trophy as the top rookie, P.K. Subban for the Norris Trophy as the best defenceman and Marc Bergevin for the top GM award.

(Photo by Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)

Adams finalists: Boudreau, MacLean, Quenneville, NHL.com


  1. L Elle says:


    Goalies are easy to love but they’re not hard to scold
    They’d rather give you a save but sometimes they fold
    First star is tougher to get, goalie sighs
    And each night begins a new Ole
    If you don’t understand him, then he won’t stay around
    He’ll prob’ly just go away

    Mamas, don’t let your babies grow up to be goalies
    Don’t let ’em wear pads and sign big ol’ contracts
    Let ’em be wingers and centers and such
    Mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be goalies
    ‘Cause they’ll always be blamed and judged by their own
    Because he can’t work his glove

    Goalies like pleasing fans, and elaborate masks hiding their mourning
    Big Defensemen and forwards who are with height
    Fans that don’t like him won’t ever like him, what can he do?
    Sometimes won’t know how to judge him
    He ain’t wrong, he’s just different
    But his knees won’t let him stand up to make you think he’s right

    Mamas, don’t let your babies grow up to be goalies
    Don’t let ’em wear pads and sign big ol’ contracts
    Let ’em be wingers and centers and such
    Mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be goalies
    ‘Cause they’ll always be blamed and always be alone
    ’cause he messed up his glove

    Mamas, don’t let your babies grow up to be goalies
    It’s a thankless position to drive them amuck
    Let ’em be wingers and centers and such

  2. ed says:

    What will NHL hockey look like 30 years from today?

    In the year 2043, the AVERAGE NHL player could be 6’4 and 230 lbs.

    There will be many 6’5, 6’6 and bigger players on the ice. Every team will have at least 1 and maybe more 6’7, 6’8, 6’9 “Chara” players on defence.

    So what kind of game will that be on today’s ice surface??

    The NHL needs a long term plan to phase in the international ice surface or else face the reality that its players will have no time and no space to play the game in 30 years.

    The financial cost of NOT changing the ice surface will be more devastating in the long term than any revenue losses estimated today due to expensive seats being removed.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I dunno, I just hope the Habs win another cup by then. Anytime after that, it will start getting increasing difficult to party like a mad man in downtown Montreal :-). Unless I get hit by a bus next week anyways 🙂

    • neumann103 says:

      I think the big ice would improve the game. But something this big- changing the NHL to the international size – would have to be done gradually and take at least 20 years. Very few current facilities could adapt without major loss of seats and sightline issues.

      Given how much money is spent on these arenas, and given the current cycle where teams, promoters, operators and cities all revile anything older than 20-25 years as unworkable and in need of replacement, you would think that there would be more thought devoted to the flexibility of design.

      I understand that an arena like Barclays in Brooklyn was intended primarily as a basketball facility but you think they would design in a contingency for hosting an NHL team (and the 45+ guaranteed calendar dates that adds). With the recent disappointment in Seattle (that the Sacramento NBA team will not be re-locating there) I was again reminded of this short sightedness, as apparetnly their arena design didn’t really even account for a proper hockey setup on current sized ice.

      As a Torontian I have seen it done almost right. People forget that the Air Canada Center was originally intended as a basketball facility and was well into construction when the Leafs were added to the group of users. The basic bones of the structure were flexible enough to accomodate the changes .

      I would love to see the NHL publicly embrace a strategic plan to move to international ice. MAke it a requirement for any new franchise or any new arena. With Gary Bettman’s historic ties to the NBA he should reach out to suggest strategic partnership in planning any new facilities across both leagues to accommodate needs of the others. This would be in the interest of both as the model of common ownership of NHL, NBA and facility is probably the most solid out there and could substantially enhance the stability of teams in “marginal” markets for both sports.

      “Et le but!”

  3. HankHardball says:

    Glad to see the Pens layin a “number” on the Walrus.

  4. Danno says:

    Is HIO shutting it down for the season? No new thread since the 17th…


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
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    • ed says:

      Does Seth Jones ever hit anyone?

      I saw several plays last night when he should have taken the body and he stick checked instead. I also saw Mackinnon beat him clean on the rush and that was disturbing as well.

      Jay Boumeester went #1 overall his year. And he’s a fantastic skater (better than Jones), he’s 6’4, and he’s not a great 1st overall pick.

      I’m starting to wonder about Jones’ toughness.

      • commandant says:

        Jay Bouwmeester went #3 overall actually… and he’s the player I’ve compared Jones to on numerous occassions.

        Everyone else keeps saying Pronger, but Jones has no mean streak.

        Just cause his dad was a physical, gritty basketball player doesn’t mean Seth Jones has this type of game in hockey.

        Go Habs Go!
        Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

        • ed says:

          And what’s your opinion on Bowmeester?

          Personally, I would rather not build my franchise around him.

          The NHL is a tough league to play in, and Bowmeester has never quite made that last jump to stardom.

          wouldn’t you agree?

          edit: my bad, Bouwmeester went #3 overall in 2002 behind Rick Nash and Kari Lehtonen

        • HabFanSince72 says:


          Number 3.

      • habstrinifan says:

        GM’S will be doing some headscratching…. would be daring choice to pass if he falls to you. Remember what MB said, a #1 forward looks NHL ready… a #1 D takes longer…and a #1 goalie longer still.

  5. HabFanSince72 says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 2-man disadvantage in the last minute of a close playoff game. We’ve had two in two games in the California series.

    I wonder if Doug Wilson’s rant after game 2 had something to do with the pens in game 3. If so it was money well spent. And also, it means the refereeing really is bush league.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I think you are right re the effect. And know you are right re the refereeing in the playoffs especially.

      Actually the worse refereeing has been the Boston series. The elbows and fists etc by the Bruins were so blatant and often done at a standing pace and no calls were made.

      Turned me off. Least series like the Pens-Sens and Kings-SJS have some good skating.

  6. The Cat says:

    I dont think the habs should waste a high draft pick on a goalie. Considering how tough it is for young goalies in the Montreal market, its best to acquire vets via trade.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  7. Clay says:

    Quick receives game misconduct for abuse of official
    ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

    • The Jackal says:

      Looks like every team has noticed the officiating sucks terribly.
      Hopefully it leads to something…. ah that’s not gonna happen.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      The penalties were pretty legit. They just don’t usually get called in that situation. Maybe last game influenced the refs.

      • Clay says:

        Especially the running the goalie penalty – that was just a dumb play when already down a man. He must have been thinking the refs would never call another penalty at that point, but really – how could a ref not call that? I have rarely seen a more deliberate attempt to run a goalie. And this from someone who is hoping LA wins.

        ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

  8. Habcouver says:

    George Parros should replace PJ Stock on CBC.

    Waiting patiently for #25

  9. The Prustean Age says:

    I predict the Habs will finish lower in the standings (figure in tougher games from West teams) but do better in the playoffs.

    “The Prustean Age” – The era when the “soft” mammals gave way to the carapace-covered creatures carrying sticks and mashing it up in corners and net-crashing and laughing in the face of the “hockey gods.”

  10. Gally365 says:

    The Habs may make the playoffs but. They’re a long ways off from being a Stanley cup contender. Look at Pittsburgh, Chicago. The Habs are not quite ready to dethrone these Teams. Maybe 2018.

  11. Gally365 says:

    If we could get enough tough guys up front and on Defense with the same skill level some of the Habs have on board right now. Not a team in the league would come close.

    All kinds of skill and speed but that’s where it ends …..

  12. C-Sword says:

    Gomez elbowing Richards. He has been playing with a lot of intensity throughout this series

  13. Adidess says:

    I love hearing the words “Gomez is buzzing”. This is exactly what Gomez does. Sometimes, it results in something. More often than not, it’s just noise.

    In fairness, Gomez is looking like he belongs in the league, playing with the Sharks.

    • The Prustean Age says:

      Can we call this a “fight” for Gomez? -So, then: “roughing”…

      “The Prustean Age” – The era when the “soft” mammals gave way to the carapace-covered creatures carrying sticks and mashing it up in corners and net-crashing and laughing in the face of the “hockey gods.”

  14. Un Canadien errant says:

    Team Canada got bounced from competition at the World Hockey Championships, losing 3-2 to Sweden in the quarterfinals.

    Not that Sweden is ever a pushover in international competition, on Olympic-sized ice, at home, but the final score for this World Hockey Championship quarterfinal game is surprising. We saw a Canadian team that was neck deep in scoring talent at forward manage only two goals. Meanwhile, the goaltending was solid, as was expected at the start of the tournament, and Mike Smith was large in net, confident, moved the puck well, and acquitted himself of the task honourably.

    My focus was on the defence corps, a definite weakness at the start of the tourney, replete as it was with Luke Schenns and Brendan Dillons and Jay Harrisons. Not to exaggerate, but my first take when the roster was announced was that it was definitely underwhelming, and that it wouldn’t even be a very strong unit on an NHL team. Later, Steve Yzerman added Dan Hamhuis, who’s a capable, mobile defensively-oriented piece, but not necessarily what the team needed, then publicly stated he was going to stand pat with the team he had, unless injuries struck.

    Now, the elephant in the room, certainly in Montréal and online media, was that P.K. Subban was an available offensive force from the blue line yet didn’t receive a call. Historically, Team Canada has been built from professional players eliminated from Stanley Cup contention. Some teams, especially in the eighties and nineties if memory serves, would start with a skeleton roster, picking the best of the worst, the pearls from the teams who didn’t make the playoffs. They’d try to muddle through until some stronger teams which were bounced from the first round had more players to offer, and then stock up on some of those goodies. What was found was that while the pieces were more impressive, the teams were not cohesive and didn’t add up to the sum of their parts. The jetlagged, dejected players from eliminated NHL teams who were added at the last minute didn’t have a chance to adapt to the ice surface, their teammates, the style of play, etc. They didn’t provide punch they were expected to.

    So Team Canada moved away from this practice, and tended lately to mostly fill out its roster with eager younger players and add a deluxe piece or three later on, and this seemed to work out better. The team worked better as a unit, its players were more committed. The team gelled.

    Which this year seemed to point towards the addition of P.K. Subban. After the Canadiens were eliminated, it was spoken of as a ‘fait accompli’. Why the hesitation? Did Steve Yzerman worry about team chemistry, with P.K.’s strong personality a concern? Did his lack of discipline from last season, and a noteworthy lapse in the late-season game against Pittsburgh on national television (http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/04/game-43-canadiens-4-penguins-6.html), tinge the esteem the management team had for him? How can there not be room on the blueline for one of this year’s Norris Trophy candidates? Did Steve Yzerman relent when Lindy Ruff advocated for his inclusion, knowing full well from facing the Canadiens the last couple of years what an impact P.K. could make on this D-corps?

    In any case, P.K. was added to the roster, got a practice in, and then played a regular shift in this game. He seemed to know what was expected of him, since he played hard and tough, but also spent a lot of time skating up the puck and rushing into the Sweden zone. He was the can-opener to their defence, as it was, the Swedish players having a tough time keeping up to his skating and figuring out his dekes. He managed to score a goal, but unfortunately after the second period buzzer had sounded. Eventually, P.K. wasn’t the difference maker, Team Canada falling short due to a surprising lack of offence from the elite forward corps.

    At the start of this season, I thought P.K. had to play very hard, disciplined hockey and keep his nose clean both on and off the ice to merit inclusion on the Sochi Olympics team. I thought he’d done a remarkable job of that, despite a couple of blips, and had gone from a darkhorse candidate to one who was routinely mentioned by prognosticators as a sure thing, on the strength of his offensive explosion and stellar play. Now it seems the battle isn’t quite won. He’ll have to be excellent in the first couple of months of next season to cement his participation on Team Canada. Of course, now, so will Carey Price.

    In any case, the real lowlight of this game though was the inexplicable act committed by Alex Edler on Eric Staal. For a reason that I and numerous other commentators can’t understand, Mr. Edler rushed at Eric Staal and collided knee-on-knee with him, with the latter suffering an injury. (https://vine.co/v/bE66j3KgmXi) Mr. Edler was ejected from the game, and will suffer additional sanctions from the IIHF.

    What Mr. Edler was trying to accomplish is baffling. He didn’t play or attempt to play the puck, holding his stick to his left side while he crashed into Mr. Staal with his right knee. He didn’t try to bodycheck the Canadian player, actually veering away from him slightly at the moment of impact. Was he trying to avoid hitting his head, since Mr. Staal was leaning forward at the time? That’s the best I can come up with, and that’s really stretching it.

    Most knee-on-knee collisions occur when a player is ‘on the train tracks’ in his attempt to bodycheck an opponent, and the opponent senses this and veers away. The checker is committed and unwilling to let the ‘checkee’ slide by, and tends to react by sticking out a knee or sometimes an elbow. Now, this is an explanation but not an excuse. The player trying to deliver the check is responsible for not targeting the head or, in this case, deliver a knee-on-knee hit. If he miscalculates and the opportunity to deliver a clean check disappears, he has to adapt, he has to let the player go, and in the future adjust his strategy, be aware that if he commits he needs to hit his target square on, or risk letting him go entirely.

    In this case, Alex Edler could have stayed at the blue line. He could have poke-checked the puck, to himself for a relatively clear path to the net, or to a teammate. He could have bodychecked, either to wrest the puck away, or harder, to cream Eric Staal. What he did instead is still bewildering.

    The thing is Alex Edler is not a tough or dirty player. He’s a slick puck-mover who quarterbacks the Canucks’ powerplay. He has size and can play the body, but has enough hockey sense and puck skill that he’s not chained to that option, a thuggish one-trick pony.

    The ‘good news’ is that Eric Staal doesn’t have a blown ACL, but rather a third-degree tear of his MCL. While this is still a grave injury, it usually doesn’t require surgery. It’s hoped that three months of rehab will stabilize the joint and he’ll be ready to resume skating. It doesn’t mitigate however the brain-deadness of the act, and the severity of the transgression.

    An unfortunate incident in a disappointing game and end of tournament for Team Canada at the Worlds, which is going home without a game in the medal round for the fourth straight year.

    • habs_54321 says:

      what 12 forwards do you chose at this point for the olympic team canada? we will need alot of offence this year if we are going to beat that usa team.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I choose Jordan Subban.

        Oh wait. It has come to my attention that he’s only 5’9″. Never mind.

        • habs_54321 says:

          jordan will be a good pickup for anyone that choses him he’s 5’9 150 lbs now but he will fill out closer to what his brother pk is over the years.

          • habs_54321 says:

            im assuming your insulted i replied your long post with a one sentencer. and ill be honest i only read the first quarter then my eyes got dizzy but i was replying inparticularily to when you wrote

            “We saw a Canadian team that was neck deep in scoring talent at forward manage only two goals.”

            this is a concern of mine at next years olympics as well.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Not insulted, I was just ragging you a little on your earlier post in which you advocated trading up to draft Jordan Subban, and then later admitted that you didn’t know he was 5’9″. It does hamper your credibility a little as a poster if you take such a strong position without having the basic facts at your disposal.

            As far as readability goes, I tend to post longer pieces, but I do have a bright shiny avatar that should serve to warn you away. Maybe you can return the courtesy? Or you can respect this forum and its readers, and properly capitalize and punctuate your sentences so that they’re grammatical and I don’t have to read your posts three times to understand what you’re trying to say. You can also respect our Canadiens by learning to spell their names.


    • wjc says:

      You should put ‘chapters’ and an index on this thing.

      Didn’t watch, didn’t care.


  15. JohnBellyful says:

    The Gazette, with the help of Statistics Canada, has designed a short-form census it’s asking HIO members to fill out, to get a better idea of the community’s demographics.

    Blah, blah, blah ….

    Edit: Here’s the really, really short-form questionnaire

    1. Have you ever:
    – played hockey? __
    – watched hockey? __
    – fondled a puck? __
    – left a good job in the city? __

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I like SmartDog better. He only hits us with five questions.

      EDIT: HEY! What did you do?!! I complain, but that doesn’t mean I wasn’t slogging through it, diligently fufilling my HIO duty!

      Don’t Harperize the census!

      Bring it back!

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Geez, now I know what the government goes through trying to keep its citizens happy …

        The Gazette, with the help of Statistics Canada, has designed a short-form census it’s asking HIO members to fill out, to get a better idea of the community’s demographics.
        The data collected will be used to make changes to the site so its content better reflects the values and interests of the HIO membership.
        All information provided will be kept confidential and stored in secure government data banks many hackers say are pretty good.
        Please answer all questions Y (for Yeah) or N (for Nope) unless otherwise specified.

        1. Have you ever:
        – played hockey? __
        – watched hockey? __
        – fondled a puck? __
        – left a good job in the city? __

        2. Are you:
        – currently a male? __
        – often mistaken for a male? __
        – disappointed by males? __
        – waiting for a cheque in the mail? __

        3. Does your household:
        – have an income of more than $50,000 but less than $100,000? __
        – have an income of more than $25,000 but less than $50,000? __
        – have an income of more than $10,000 but less than $25,000? __
        – have four wheels? __

        4. I come to this site nearly every day to:
        – offer line combinations? __
        – make trade suggestions? __
        – praise players? __
        – scold other posters? __

        5. Is there:
        – too much violence in the NHL? __
        – too much diving in the NHL? __
        – too much icing in the NHL? __
        – too much of Chris Lee in the NHL? __

        6. The game would be better if referees:
        – enforced the rules fairly and consistently? __
        – were given fewer rules to learn and enforce? __
        – put away their whistles and let the players play? __
        – were required to pass an eye exam? __

        7. The shootout is:
        – an exciting way to end a game? __
        – a farce that should be ended? __
        – a reasonable compromise between tradition and innovation? __
        – something that happens at the end of a Bruin fan’s family reunion that’s down to its last bag of pork rinds? __

        8. PJ Stock is:
        – execrable? __
        – reprehensible? __
        – abominable? __
        – Milburyan? __

        9. Ramming a player from behind and smashing his head against the glass is:
        – criminally liable? __
        – morally repugnant? __
        – cowardly in the extreme? __
        – finishing a check? __

        10. What I look for in hockey is:
        – a three-way passing play that produces a great scoring chance? __
        – an end-to-end rush that results in a goal? __
        – a fantastic glove save that prompts a standing ovation? __
        – an elbow to the head that knocks out an opponent? __

        11. Goons are:
        – a disgrace to hockey? __
        – a menace to society? __
        – a sad commentary on mankind? __
        – welcome to join the Canadiens when they become a UFA? __

        12. To make the game more enjoyable for spectators, team owners should:
        – enlarge the ice surface? __
        – ban players who recklessly injure others, particularly the league’s stars? __
        – submit Bettman’s name for one-way trip to Mars? __
        – lower beer prices? __

        • wjc says:

          I’ll give it a go:
          1. On ice….you nuts….too dangerous
          2. Never had a good job to leave.
          3. Waiting for the cheque in the mail.
          4. Is welfare an income….sorry question confused me. Whats an income?
          5. Scold other posters of course. To much material to ignore.
          6. All of the above, except I like Chris Lee, he married my cousins sister in law.
          7 I would like to see posters referee a couple of pee wee games and if that works out move up to bantam. It would nice to see them humbled.
          8. Hell, I love ties, give me a tie, they are so exciting. Forget extra innings in baseball. Just have ties. Play for a tie with about 10 minutes to go in the third because ties are under rated and fun.
          9. You forgot entertaining, that is what he is really paid to do, entertain you, engage you, enrage you.
          10. Depends on the circumstance if he turns suddenly in a fast game you may not be able to pull up in time. If you want to eliminate people getting hurt, you should just eliminate hitting. Have a no hitting league…..end of controversy.
          11. All of the above, ever heard of Mr. Hockey….Gordie Howe.
          12. Goons are a disgrace unless your team has one, then they are great. Goons is a terrible word, they used to be called enforcers, kept people honest. They make good money to.
          13. Enlarging ice surface, to expensive.
          Give players who recklessly injure others lifetime bans…good by, good riddance.
          Mars is expensive, Bettman is a good fall guy, someone else would just come along for you to hate.
          Lower beer prices, free admission, not going to happen, people are too willing to pay.


    • habstrinifan says:

      1: Had someone fondle my puck while I was busy doing all the others.
      2: Waiting for a cheque in the mail.
      3: My household is actually in the hole.
      4: be scolded by others.. that’s how I roll
      5: Too much Chris Lee.
      6: Had bigger peas in their whistles.
      7: A shootout would be a darn fine way to settle the Pricebot-HalaKItes feud.

      8:I dont speak Mensa.
      9:Finshing a Czech by Sendin a message.
      10:All of the above aS long as HABS win.
      11:Welcomed to join Canadiens when they become UFA.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      One of the responses to question 4 is not specific enough, and will miscalculate the demos for our community.

      Instead of “– scold other posters? __”, the response should read:

      – natter on incessantly, nonsensically, and maniacally about Scott Gomez, and guarantee how Mr. Gomez will earn/retain a roster spot for himself during training camp, and offer no logic or facts to support this leap in logic, and browbeat anyone who tries to reason with you that recent history strongly indicates otherwise, and SPAM the site for months on end with this garbage, and disappear from the site for a few weeks when the inevitable Scott Gomez buyout occurs, let things simmer down a little, then sidle back unassumingly, as if nothing happened, and resume the barrage of condescension, as if you hadn’t castrated yourself of any merit as a person worthy of discussing hockey with, a virtual credibility eunuch, but simply pretend that you’re invited at this barbecue despite the fact that you brought the skunks and tainted tuna salad the last time, and come here and have the nerve to scold other posters?__

      • wjc says:

        What a rant, you put me to shame, big words and everything…impressive.

        Didn’t know I needed an invite. Sometimes life becomes more important than having fun with the posters.

        Some of the posts are to irresistable.

        Side note….Gomez could have helped the Canadiens, but the salary issue got in the way…..agreed with the buy out. However, that said I was looking forward to him coming back.


      • HammerHab says:

        “but simply pretend that you’re invited at this barbecue ”

        Seeing as you’re a stickler for grammar is the above quote grammatically correct? Should it not be “to this barbeque”?


        It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  16. HabFanSince72 says:

    I don’t know if he’s always bad, but every time I happen to watch a game in which he’s playing, Brad Stuart makes a major goof.

  17. Un Canadien errant says:

    Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos castigating Seth Jones for allowing Nate McKinnon to score without “at least making an effort to chop him down, get a stick on him, make him aware that you’re there…”

    Are we sure at HIO that we want CBC to lose Hockey Night in Canada and have these clowns end up in charge of it? Is Nick Kypreos, the guy who never did anything of note in the NHL except deliberately fall on Grant Fuhr and rupture his ACL, knock him out of the series, and eventually end his career, really an upgrade on Don Cherry and P.J. Stock?



  18. Habsbill24 says:

    Sharks fined 100k for speaking honestly about the atrocious and inconsistent suspensions assessed by Bettman’s flunky Shanahan. Sad what the NHL has become. Freedom of speech not allowed by King Bettman and his band of idiots. Maybe we should have Campbell back so he can insult players in emails and blatantly favor his son’s team some more.

  19. petefleet says:


    Five UFA’s that I think would make the Habs a better club:

    David Clarkson
    Brad Boyes
    Max Lapierre
    Steve Eminger
    Mike Smith

    Oh, and give Stefan Fornier a try out.

    That is all

    I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

    ***Go Habs Go***

    • Clarkson- die hard Leaf fan who will turn 30 next year and may never score 20 goals again.

      Boyes- turns 32 next year, and is in decline.

      Lapierre- why would we want him back? He’s an embarrassment to the word hockey

      Eminger- why?

      SMith- Turns 32 next year, and will cost more than Price


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  20. Un Canadien errant says:

    So at work, I have to deal with the loathsome, business-speak neologism ‘competency’, instead of the correct term ‘competence.’

    When I watch hockey, high-school dropouts armed with microphones natter on about teams or players showing ‘resiliency’ (ugh..) instead of resilience. Why that is, why one person decided to tack on an extra syllable to a word, and the rest of the commentationingists seemingly as one decided to ape him immediately, is something I don’t understand.

    Now, brace yourselves, Sportsnet talking head Sam Consentino just said that Nathan McKinnon, on a fine play, had , wait for it, “just started to show his brilliancy“.

    I really fear for the children.

    I try, I really try, to refrain from alluding to how sportscasters mangle the language, but the self-restraint sometimes eludes me.



    • twilighthours says:

      Continue to practice self-restrainance.

      Hey, how about the argument that the spoken word doesn’t have to be the same as the written word?

    • petefleet says:

      I think it would be alot for some people to change the way they right after so many years but, think of how much gooder it would be if ‘resiliency’ became a real word and how much funner it would be to say it.

      I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

      ***Go Habs Go***

    • The Prustean Age says:

      Consistently entertained/impressed by your comments, Un Canadien Errant; but I’m afraid this is the current “environment” of hockey commentary (the quoted word is another example of an abused concept – just like “culture”: e.g., “changing the hockey culture”). In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Ron MacLean seemed to be an example of hockey-smart/book smart, but he’s clearly become Cherry’s bitch, and the HNIC has slowly become smothered by an endless parade of Cherry clones: Milbury (gone to NBC), Healy, PJ Stock, and poor Ron himself.

      Personally, I think we need more figures such as Dave Hodge who (you probably know) got booted from HNIC for speaking his mind: he’s doing ever since, offering some brilliant commentaries on many key issues (including Cherry’s favourite: fighting in the NHL)


      “The Prustean Age” – The era when the “soft” mammals gave way to the carapace-covered creatures carrying sticks and mashing it up in corners and net-crashing and laughing in the face of the “hockey gods.”

    • wjc says:

      You are forgetting the average I.Q. of the audience is below 90. You are quite literate and maybe expecting too much.


  21. Sportfan says:

    Everyone this makes me want to experience Regina!

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  22. Adidess says:

    I was just reading some of the earlier exchanges on Price. It’s interesting even now that the season has ended, some people have not come to terms with the fact that Price has not had a good year, especially late, and there is some cause for concern. It looks like even Pricer’s own assessment of his play (i like that about him) has not freed some fans from their obsessive excessive defense of him (good or no good performance).

    When I started reading HIO following the Halak trade, there was one solid group of ‘extremists’ on this site. It was formed by the Halakites: people in love with Halak following his heroic playoff performance and who were understandably upset with Gainey’s decision to trade their favorite goalie and keep Price, though they had no way of knowing at the time how the trade was going to turn out. But you couldn’t fault them for being overly dramatic. Unfortunately, it seems many of the Halakites instinctively decided they would hold Price personally responsible for the trade. They became the crazy Price haters who could never recognize his talent and potential or give him credit for his play or accomplishments (including prior to reaching the NHL). And the fact that Halak has progressively descended into oblivion due to injury, poor play or no play, has changed very little in their minds.

    What i found particularly troubling during the course of this season is how a group of respectable HIO posters have radicalized over time in opposition to the Halakites, to the point of becoming their exact mirror image.

    Even during that late stretch of puzzlingly bad performances, one couldn’t suggest Price should have had a particular weak off-angle shot that went in high glove side, gaping five-hole, or over a slumping shoulder, without somebody otherwise level-headed and knowledgeable about hockey replying ‘no goalie in the world could stop that shot’ or something to that effect.

    What i like about Price is how much of a stand-up guy he is and how mentally tough he’s proving to be at times playing in this crazy market. Whenever he played below his standards, he’ll show up and recognize prompted or unprompted that he needs to be better.

    Those of us who have always supported Price are allowed to hold him to the high standards he holds himself. Price has had an up-and-down, sub-par year to be really honest, even judging by his previous seasons in the league. At 25, he’s not a finished product by any means, so one doesn’t want to give up on him at this point, with all this talent yet to be fully honed in. But Price has not quite reached consistency or elite status yet and that’s what we’re all waiting to see from him. I am a Price supporter who is now a bit unsure of where he’ll end up in goaltender ranking when it’s all said and done. I am concerned about his lack of improvement on a great baseline of talent and potential.

    Until late March, maybe there was reason for Price fans to continually go after anyone who dared bringing up that he was not having a good game. He wasn’t stellar but we were winning. It became embarrassing towards the end of the season even as a Price fan to hear the kind of things people were saying in his defense.

    The defence is too small, yes. But I suppose that excuse is more valid when the goal results from a crease scramble or some small guy being pushed off the puck. How does it explain those routine shots from anywhere going in on him during that bad stretch? How does it explain the debacle in Toronto in the first few shifts?

    Pricey can play at the level we saw in Game 2. When the D made mistakes in that game, he just erased them. Let’s be honest, we didn’t see that enough from him this year. The challenge for him is how to sustain/maintain that level throughout a series or a playoff run. That’s what we have seen from the recent SC winning goalies; and fairly or unfairly that is the standard to which he’s held and the kind of investment the Habs have made in him. He’ll get there eventually, hopefully. Will probably need much better defence, but at some point the onus is on a money goalie to win in the 1st round by any means necessary.

    I have to endure Ottawa radio since I live in the region, but the consensus here since the series ended has been that the Habs would still be playing, if the goalies were reverse for the two teams. I hate the fact that I can’t really disagree.

    We all have our favourites towards whom we’re more indulgent if not biased, but I think Price fans should avoid becoming for their guy what the Halakites have come to represent for Halak.

    • Bill H says:

      Yes, I think your assessment is correct in terms of fanatical support/criticism of Price goes. The pro Price fanatics have grown to reflect fanatical Halak supporters.

      It also occurs because goalie is such a key position in hockey, and past Canadiens teams have had such outstanding goalies guiding them to Cup wins. Roy and Dryden most recently. It wasn’t so long ago that we were having heated debates around Huet vs. Aebischer. Also inflaming passions around the goalie issue is the current 20 year Stanley Cup drought.

      I don’t know how anyone can call Price an elite goaltender. Clearly he has had an up and down season. Perhaps more up than down, but definitely more down when it counted most. Hopefully Price will develop into that elite goaltender everyone wants him to be.

      • The Prustean Age says:

        All the same, Price’s cumulative numbers (save percentage and GAA) are fairly respectable (.915 & 2.56 ) and are slightly better than, say, Fleury’s or Anderson’s.

        “The Prustean Age” – The era when the “soft” mammals gave way to the carapace-covered creatures carrying sticks and mashing it up in corners and net-crashing and laughing in the face of the “hockey gods.”

  23. Strummer says:

    Sportfan- Here’s a goalie discussion.
    Supporters of Carey Price are known as “Pricebots”

    In Nashville where Pekka Rinne had a slightly sub-par year (for him)
    are his supporters known as “Pekka-Heads”?
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  24. jols101 says:

    Both these teams are playing nervous hockey.

  25. sweetmad says:

    Reading all the pro’s and con’s about CP,makes me laugh,he is a bad goalie,yes the team made second in the conference this year,on the back of a bad goalie,boy what an amazing team we have.He said he was not happy at the end of the playoffs,what he meant was he was not happy with his own play,in fact that was what he said,he said he couldn’t go and get his own groceries,I can’t imagine why,do you think it might be because of intrusive fans who are telling him how to be a goalie and yet have never played a game in their lives.
    Like MB said CP said all this in the presser after the game,he didn’t go and hide after the game,but tried to answear the questions,the grocery thing,was in answear to a question about living in the spotlight in Montreal,and if you listened he said he was used to it,and thatwas all he had ever known,so it was what it was,why does everybody read more into it than it is,the poor boy was obviously not playin at his best and was injured for quite some time.
    Doesn’t anybody have any sense of what the kid was feeling at the time of the presser.
    When he started to play in Montreal he was very much a standup goalie and the coach was trying to make him butterfly,that coach left and he seemed happier,then the coach was changed I don’t know how many times,each one wanting to change his play,how would you feel if every couple of years,some one comes and tells you what you have been doing is wrong,I know I would scream or punch some one.
    Hopefully the team will have some stabilty now,and every one including CP will know where they stand.

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    • Strummer says:

      I remember it well. Upset the reigning champion Bruins with the great Orr and Espo in a 7 game series. Our first year with the Big “M” and Dryden.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

      • Habcouver says:

        Wasn’t there an amazing right pad save by KD when Jim Pappin (Chicago) prematurely raised his arms signaling a goal?
        Waiting patiently for #25

  27. Sportfan says:

    WOW I just got home and heard the anthems holy crap that was bad! I mean good on the poor girl who stayed and tried her best with both, but man that was a bad one. Hope she’s alright glad the fans sang withh her.

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  28. punkster says:

    Hey folks, before the games get started tonight could we have another quick goalie discussion please?

    It’s been, what, over 3 hours since we had a goalie discussion.

    How about another goalie discussion? Eh?

    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

  29. jols101 says:

    Oh No, poor girl. She can’t sing and she can’t remember the words.

  30. Mavid says:

    no NHL hockey on tonight??

  31. jols101 says:

    Seth Jones vs Drouin and MacKinnon. Starting now on Sportsnet.

    Should be a great game.

    Wish the Habs had the top 3 picks in this years draft. Ok, top 4, I want Barkov too.

  32. Bill says:

    From an article I saw on TSN but from the Canadian Press, no less:

    “Spezza’s minutes will be monitored and MacLean eluded to the fact the amount could be higher or lower depending on the amount of power play time the Senators have.”

    Standards of spelling and grammar really falling if this happens at Canadian Press. Incredible.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  33. habitunts1 says:

    How about another Subban on D?


  34. Rad says:

    I wonder if Bergevin has his European scouts paying close attention to the IIHF. Are some of the players on the Swiss team available? I’m thinking specifically of a couple of Swiss forwards Julian Walker (6’2″, 207, 27 yrs old) and Canadian-born Ryan Gardner (6’6″, 227, 35 yrs old). There is also Nino Niederriter of the NY Islanders, who earlier this year requested a trade from the Islanders. He plays a physical North-South game. Interestingly, none of the Swiss defensemen are much over 200 lbs.

  35. habitunts1 says:

    Anyone have an idea who the habs might draft in 2013? What position is there biggest need?

    • Chris says:

      No idea on who they will draft, but the biggest organizational needs are physical forwards that can score and goaltenders. The system is empty in those two areas, and you have to remember that the kids they draft this year won’t be ready for 3-5 years.

      • Rad says:

        Hey Chris, have you seen Sudbury’s Nick Baptiste or Saginaw’s Nick Moutrey play? Are there any forwards in the OHL that you think have above average potential?

    • habs_54321 says:

      i like kerby rychel and samuel morin. kerby is a skilled forward he is a safe pick imo and would add scoring depth in a couple years.

      samuel is a 6″7 blueliner with a mean streak and good skating simular too tinordi probably a bit more physical

      another guy is anthony mantha if he is still around at our turn to pick hes a 6’4 power winger type

    • Bill says:

      Any one of Frederik Gauthier, Anthony Mantha, or Samuel Morin would be a nice grab in the mid 20s.

      Averaging out the rankings, I think they would need to trade up to get Gauthier or Mantha though.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • habs_54321 says:

        gauthier might be around in the second round but if he is around for our first pick and you have to chose between gauthier,morin,mantha or rychel who do you pick? personnaly i think gauthier is not gonna be anymore than a 4th liner maybe 3rd liner a david steckel/paul gaustad he just doesn’t have that much offensive skill

        • Bill says:

          Hmm, Gauthier might have better offensive skill than you think, he had great numbers as a rookie.

          His average draft ranking is the same as Rychel, and better than Mantha’s. The draft is obviously all about chance, who knows which will be better. Not me!

          As for Morin, he’s a project defenceman … I’d be happy with theat pick too. Any of those guys would be fine by me.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

  36. C-Sword says:

    The last 4 teams that won the cup will make it into the conference finals.

  37. commandant says:

    Senators getting a big boost for game 3


    Go Habs Go!
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  38. hamiltonbulldogs says:

    Bill : I agree … Price needs an NHL defensive crew in front of him …. After Subban and the up and coming Tinordi … The rest are average at best !!! … I just hate the idea that we are wasting 14 million dollars on DD … If we really wanted that useless midget – we could of had him for less than 1 million per year … Waste of roster spot and money !!!

    • commandant says:

      Please find me the free agent centre who scores 45-55 points per season and can be signed for 2.5 million per season.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • SlovakHab says:

        I think we don’t need a centre of DD type. We have Eller and Plekanec and can keep Halpern and White for bottom 6.
        Galchenyuk can also play centre if needed.
        That money could have been spent on a defenceman, not a player of DD type.

  39. frontenac1 says:

    I cheer for Canada,Screw the rest of them.

  40. Bill says:

    @Ron: Agree on Price. Like most of us, I’d like to see how he looks behind something that more closely resembles an NHL D squad.

    Need major upgrades there over the next two years. Unfortunately if say it looks like the same crew next year.

  41. Bill says:

    @Twilight: not sure you are using the term “hot mess” correctly there, ha.

  42. jedimyrmidon says:

    While it makes them more scary to play in international competition, it’s really encouraging to see a new hockey nation blooming before our eyes.

    Congratulations to the Swiss.

  43. jols101 says:

    Well the Hockey Gods are angry my friends.

    1st the Habs get dumped in an early first round exit by the Sens.

    2nd Team Canada loses in a shootout to Sweden.

    3rd Galchenyuk and Kristo get eliminated by the Swiss.

    Everything i have cheered for in the last couple of weeks has went horribly wrong. Time to appease the Hockey Gods. Maybe some type of ritualistic sacrifice?

  44. The Jackal says:

    Crawford on his knees on that goal! Goalies on their knees? No way!

  45. petefleet says:

    You have got to like the Swiss going for gold.

    I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

    ***Go Habs Go***

    • johnnylarue says:

      It’s crazy. But nice to see Streit, Diaz et. al. were a harbinger of things to come, rather than just a curious blip on the NHL radar. Looks like that country is suddenly starting to produce some legit talent.

      And good on ’em!

  46. johnnylarue says:

    The Swiss are a friggin’ machine!

    They look like they’ve been playing together for 60 games already, whereas the US are a much less organized ragtag band of All-Stars and journeymen… and kids. (At least in this game.)

  47. Propwash says:

    Aaahaha they edited the “nofkintablet” commercial.


  48. jols101 says:

    Galchenyuk getting a lot of PP time with team USA. Great for his confidence. I hope they can break through and come back. This Swiss Team is the total package though.

  49. Maritime Ron says:

    Re those that want Price traded..

    It’s really quite simple.
    The present management is the one which signed him long term. They also know they didn’t properly surround Price having inherited a small soft back end and unable to upgrade in Year 1.

    We’ll see what happens this summer with Emelin looking like he will be out until at least December.
    If the Habs management do not upgrade the D – and they may have to pay more than they wish, then they are NOT a good management group.

    Barring being caught in the same alleged video with Rob Ford, Price is not going anywhere for at least 2 years.

    The only way that changes is if HE wants out, or if management decides after more meetings and talks, that Price does not have the ability to balance his life in Montreal and is unhappy.
    Rest assured they will get to the bottom of “who is going to buy Price’s groceries” and if it isn’t Price himself, then all bets are off.

    • petefleet says:

      I’m not advocating trading Price, yet, but a good goalie is one who does well in spite of his support not because of them. If Price can’t steal a game when his team is struggling, he’s not what the Habs need.

      I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

      ***Go Habs Go***

      • I’m GONNA being serious for one minute here.

        How many games did Carey still (not this year) where the Habs won by a score 3-2, or 2-1 since Halak was traded?

        How many games did the Habs win where they had no business winning since the Halak left?

        Why did Price get a big contract?

        Every single person who wants Price traded are the ones who completely fail to look at every single (not this season) game since HALAK left.

        Pekka Rinne by Rinne standards was bad this year. He’s 30 and makes 7 mil for the next three years. You know why their fans aren’t crying and whining to trade him, because they know he’s good. Price had a bad season. He knows, we know, and management knows it. TRADE HIM OVER ONE BD SEASON? That’s THE stupidest thing I have ever heard here. Now two bad seasons, yeah you may have to make changes.

        THE END


        Time to stir the pot!

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        • petefleet says:

          I have watched every Habs game since Carey Price played his first game. The magic that got him picked 5th overall has been fading every year since he was drafted. I would be the first one to stand and say I’m wrong about him but to date he hasn’t given me any reason. He’s not BAD goalie, he just not a game stealer/superstar goalie.

          I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

          ***Go Habs Go***

        • Maritime Ron says:

          Carey’s play in the next 2 seasons-playoffs included, will decide his future in Montreal.

          I’m not saying he has to win a Cup or go to the Conference finals, but first of all, he needs to play well to get the Habs to the playoffs next year, then if made, show up and at least play well.

          • petefleet says:

            I would agree with that if MTL choses to keep him. His head is not where it needs to be and his recent comments may be his undoing in MTL.

            I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

            ***Go Habs Go***

    • habstrinifan says:

      “The only way that changes is if HE wants out, or if management decides after more meetings and talks, that Price does not have the ability to balance his life in Montreal and is unhappy.
      Rest assured they will get to the bottom of “who is going to buy Price’s groceries” and if it isn’t Price himself, then all bets are off.”

      And therein lies the nutrient for that gut feeling which has taken hold of my HABS insides. I am not advocating that Price be traded. Nor am I saying that a trade will be a denouncement of Price’s abilities. Far from it. I am saying that my gut is beginning to feel that the scenario you describe above is at hand… and that both r either party will find a ‘reset’ by a trade the most advantageous.

      • kalevine says:

        I hope so. I think the Habs would be a much better team with a goalie who plays as well or slightly better than price for half or less than what he costs, and the resultant upgrade on defence that the salary savings would allow.

  50. The Jackal says:

    If we’re throwing trade roomors around why not play around with the folllowing:

    Markov and DD for ___________?


    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • habsfan0142 says:

      For 1st & 2nd round pick in 2014

    • petefleet says:

      2 second rounders and a third.

      I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

      ***Go Habs Go***

    • habstrinifan says:

      Best DD trade .. Weber, DD and Gionta (or Kaberle)to Tampa for Lecavalier and anything else they can pry out of Tampa. Really an exchange of Dollars for us and they get Weber and DD, whom they can insulate and surround with complementary talent.. and HABS get Lecavalier who is not as ‘washed up’ as many here believe…. and RDS goes orgasmic.

  51. petefleet says:

    Five UFA’s that I think would make the Habs a better club:

    David Clarkson
    Brad Boyes
    Max Lapierre
    Steve Eminger
    Mike Smith

    Oh, and give Stefan Fornier a try out.

    That is all

    I haven’t been wrong in a long time…..not feeling like today is the day.

    ***Go Habs Go***

  52. Mavid says:

    Not sure if you have seen this Karlsson one of the few Sens players I like..now I like him even more..listen carefully as he wishes Subby good luck and hopes he wins the Norris..


    • The Jackal says:

      Karlsson and Alfredsson are classy guys.
      They even said it was extremely lucky the way the calls went for them and that they knew they had to take advantage of that so we don’t come back.

      I thought the Walrus was very classy until his comments. I’m sure he is a nice guy but his comments after the incident and throughout the series were not too classy IMO.

      Granted, MT was not exactly graceful but he didn’t go out to insult anyone despite him being clearly frustrated.

      Can’t let people get under your skin like that!

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Karlsson is pure class. And 22 years old.

      Hats off.

    • twilighthours says:

      Karlsson is a real beauty. He’s a hot mess in his own end, though

    • habstrinifan says:

      WOW Mavid! Amazing! He didnt just ‘kinda say it’ either. He sounded really positive that Subban had earned it .


  53. J.J. of Turku says:

    In case someone is interested. Switzerland plays very amusing hockey. Fast, skilled and it looks like they enjoy playing.


  54. Wnapper says:

    Wayne Napper
    I think it is a crime that Therrien is not one of the finalists for coach of the year. To take a team from 15th to 2nd in one year is fantastic.
    Boudreau and Maclean deserve it but Quennville? Anyone could coach that team! I hate to say it but I’d pick the bug-eyed fat walrus to win it. With all the injuries the Sens had, he did a great job. I don’t like him however!

  55. Propwash says:

    Price for Fleury these days = 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. Sounds more just to run Price out of town than anything else. There’s no improvement for the Habs.


  56. habstrinifan says:

    wjc May 18, 2013 at 12:53 pm

    Price is going no where! Just glad you people lurk on the internet and have no say……….what a bunch of fools.


    The dig which closes this rejoinder to the Price discussion is particularly irsksome and shows why it is not good for one’s blood pressure to engage in certain topics here on HIO… Price’s status being one of them.

    If WJC is stating that ANYONE who thinks Price ‘could be traded’ is a FOOL, then I must plead guilty to having become a witless idiot within the past two or three weeks.

    I have within that time frame, seen the emergence of a gut feeling that this possibility has become quite real. And it wont go away. And since I have no categorically sound evidence that this is the case, and just pure gut instincts, then I will allow myself to be condescended to by posters of saner intellect like WJC.

    I am sure WJC, though, will understand if I retain this entry so that if perchance the ‘near future’ proves my gut instinct right I can say with foolish provocativeness,
    “I TOLD YOU SO”.

    “I told you so” being a favourite rejoinder of us simpletons, when we are lucky to be proven right.

  57. theox_8 says:

    Galchy is getting more pp time with team USA than the habs weird lol

  58. JUST ME says:

    Such a useless idea the Fleury -Price thing. For it to be considered a rumor it would have to come from elsewhere than a HIO board don`t you think ? And furthermore,Fleury gets back in nets and wins a game and then it`s Vokhoun on the trading block.

    • Bill says:

      It was never posted as a “rumour”. It is usually posted as a wishful thinking, never gonna happen, but gee wouldn’t it be nice to have Evgeni Malkin pure fantasy.

      No one said it was a rumour. In the words of Arnold Schwarzenegger … “It’s not a rumour!”

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      NOT A RUMOUR…just posters talking about trade scenarios. What else are we supposed to talk about now? Price’s rodeo schedule?

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  59. Bill says:

    Really like Weekes and Friedman on HNIC. Stock obviously is a buffoon and I have no idea why anybody hired him ever. Maclean I do not like but that’s life … he’s not going anywhere.

    They should get rid of Stock and hire someone like Mathieu Darche, an experienced pro hockey player who is also intelligent and articulate!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  60. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    If Fleury can’t get the job done with the Pens, how in the world will he do it here? It’s irrelevant who comes back with him in the deal because the team won’t be improved.

    If you want to do a Price for Malkin type deal, fine. But find another goalie to replace Price.

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  61. K-hab25 says:

    No bigger “Pricebot” than I, but I would do that deal in a heartbeat. Malkin is one of the top 3 players in the world. It’s a no-brainer really.

    • H.Upmann says:

      For real. Who cares if we get Fleury in that deal. Malkin is the target. After that, you can try trading or playing Fleury. And besides, until he fails in MTL, we can’t bash him lol

      But yeah a if we had Malkin, Galchenyuk, Eller as centres… oh man.

  62. gerrybell says:

    Fleury for Price is an embarrassing rumour. why would montreal want a back up goalie in fluery – reminder – he cant even start for the pens.

    and why are we giving up on price? the guy played the last month injured with a pathetic d – core in front of him. how about we talk about the new bigger, badder back liners we want to add?

    price for fleury, give me a break.



    • Steven says:

      It appears you missed the many posts that clearly state that it wouldn’t be a 1-for-1 deal, and that there would have to be a throw-in on Pittsburgh’s side.

      The suggestions I’ve seen are Price and Plekanec for Fleury and Malkin(not the most likely of trades, but certainly possible), not simply Price for Fleury. Even though Fleury’s been arguably dismal, you have to consider it, especially with Malkin coming back.

  63. joshbenn says:

    Out of curiosity who had the most hits in the regular season

  64. HabinBurlington says:

    If Pittsburgh continues to play well this playoffs, Douglas Murray is sure to have a financial reward this offseason. He will be one of the premiere UFA physical defencemen available.

    Edit: Robyn Regehr if doesn’t retire and Rob Scuderi will also be in a position to command big bucks for perhaps final contracts.

  65. HabinBurlington says:

    I am always amazed by some ideas here, Price for Fleury seems flavour of the day…. Pittsburgh I believe would jump at that….

    • Bill says:

      That’s why it couldn’t be a straight-up deal … but it’s just idle speculation with all those players (except Price) having no trade clauses.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • habstrinifan says:

      The ‘throw in’ Malkin discussed in the trade is significant I think. Why overlook that?

      A better defence surely is a priority. But isn’t there any consideration to be given to the thought process which says that, all things considered, it may be an option to examine all options re the asset we have called price.

  66. HammerHab says:

    For those trying to come up with a trade to offer Tampa….Tampa does not have the 2nd overall pick. Florida does.


    It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  67. Bill says:

    Ron: he has had rough playoffs since the second Finals appearance, but that can happen. I do feel that Pens run and gun style leaves him vulnerable to too many high quality chances, and I also think the Pens have tightened up a lot since he was replaced by Vokoun.

    Yeah I know his numbers have been bad, I still think he can be a good goalie. He had a pretty decent season before the playoffs.

    Haha, sure if they want to throw in Letang I guess we could let Leblanc go!

  68. Gally365 says:

    JJ- The sisters-sedins aren’t that good in the NHL playoffs – They have to play against tough dudes than.

    • J.J. of Turku says:

      Finns played softly, you got that right, if that was your point. 😀

      Would have been nice to win without scoring any goals too…

      It was Team Finland’s worse game in this tournament. I guess that’s where you can see, that was a young team with 14(?) first timers.

      Enroth was as good as he had be, Finns were lousy at shots.

      GO SWISS, GO!


      • HabinBurlington says:

        Sorry about your team today J.J., how come they didn’t bring Koivu and Selanne over? Perhaps they said no, or was it the belief in a young team and continue developing. I could understand the latter, as some young kids who played well in tournament would have had to sit to make room for the veterans. Just not sure I would ever say no to two players who have meant so much to Finnish hockey.

        • J.J. of Turku says:

          I went afrter game for a one beer and cider with my wife. We got terrible service because my wife spoke swedish and the bartender didn’t recognize her accent. To me she she doesn’t sound so swede… 😀

          Although I spoke him as strong Turku-accent as I can, I think we ruined his day. 😀

          I think they didn’t even ask for those finnish hockey “legends” to join the team? Mikko Koivu was on the list, but Minnesota asked him to stay out of the tournament.
          Of course it would have been sweet to beat Sweden, but now I’m cheering for team Suisse.


  69. Maritime Ron says:

    You have to wonder what the Pens are going to do with Fleury.
    Trade him if they can, or even use a Compliance buyout?
    Fleury’s Cap Hit for the next 2 years is $5M.
    When you don’t ‘trust’ your $5M dollar man…
    There are UFA goaltenders that can do the job at half the price

    For the next 2 years, the Pens are moving into tough Cap territory and ever dollar is precious.

    Between this summer and next, they are going to have to deal with the Big Boy UFAs in Makin-Kunitz-Letang-Oprik ++ (would those last 2 look good in a Habs uniform…actually, all 4 would look great 🙂 )

    • davecessna says:

      Good point, I’ve always wondered how the hell Pittsburgh is going to hold on to that team with a reduced salary cap. Still, the way to build these days is not through free agency, it’s through years of tanking/draft building. It doesn’t always work; just ask the Oilers.

      • wjc says:

        Just curious, when you or others use the term ‘tanking’ what does it mean?

        Does it mean a team (the players) lose on purpose?

        Does it mean a team goes with a ‘young team’ and logic predicts a low finish.

        Does it mean management loses on purpose by not playing ‘key’ players.

        Players would not tank on purpose because high draft picks threaten their jobs.

        Owners do not like tanking because they like playoff revenue’s.

        People seem to think Edmonton will continue to finish low and nothing could be further from the truth. These young stars will pay off and become an elite team.

        I witnessed New York Islanders when they came into the league and had last place and low place finishes but gathered up top draft picks that turned into many Stanley cups.

        Potvin, Trottier, Gilles, Rieche, Bossy and many more.

        Tanking is a term I do not understand, how it is accomplished? Do not really expect an explanation, it is just something people throw out there and have no clue what they are talking about. Talk is cheap.


    • habsfan0 says:

      Shhh…you might give Habs management some ideas.

      Marc Andre Fleury, a Quebecois,for Carey Price,a B.C. native?

      Nahhh…couldn’t happen..could it?

    • naweed235 says:

      If we buy out price you might see one a couple of those guys in a Habs Uni…

      • habstrinifan says:

        Buying out is NOT a option. But a trade as Bill described is, in my humble opinion.

      • ari says:

        Colorado loves Montreal goalies.A trade for their first pick is something MB has to consider

        • Bill says:

          Teams typically don’t trade the number one pick. Hasn’t happened in a decade.

          Can’t see any scenario where Colorado gives up Seth Jones.

          If I really stretch my imagination, maybe the Habs could get the 2nd overall pick from Florida, a team that is historically stupid about trading 1st overall picks, in exchange for immediate help. But I bet ya the asking price would be super-steep and no one would much like it.

          I’m thinking like Subban. Or Galchenyuk + Tinordi.

          I don’t think a goalie with question marks and a long term deal is great trade bait for a top three draft pick.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            A goalie with a question mark?

            Carey Price?

            Not unless the question is “is he more Roy or Dryden”?

        • wjc says:

          Goalies….as in Price. Careful what you wish for.


    • Bill says:

      Fleury is a very capable goalie who obviously is in need of some kind of reset. He’s won a Cup, and he’s also looked vulnerable at times in the playoffs.

      IMO a change of scene is required. Not sure who the trade partners would be … but I also don’t see the Pens doing a buyout.

      The ever-popular Price and Plekanec for Fleury and Malkin trade is always worth mentioning here, ha.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Maritime Ron says:

        Since his Cup win back in 09, he;s been awful in the playoffs

        …you forgot to add Letang from the Pens and Leblanc from our team

      • habstrinifan says:

        Bill would you do Price and Plekanec for Fleury and Malkin. I think I would.
        Price is younger and with more upside and talent but on his very best days Fleury can be outstanding. And he has had some success.

        One irritation that would be removed (and I use the word irritation only in that is probably like an elephant in the room) is that Fleury will accept a tandem (more games to a secondary goalie) much easier than it appears Price is able to do. (I of course am just judging by appearances re Price). Mngmnt could then look at Fleury, Budaj, Tosalki(??) and all their other goaltending assets and make a duo to take them thru the next 3 years or so. I think HABS should either stay with Price or make a trade as above.. where you may end up with a lesser goalie but a kick-ass acquisition in Malkin. Malkin is absolutely going to help the HABS.

        • Bill says:

          I actually think it would be a good deal for both teams.

          It helps the Pens in net, I feel, and Plekanec provides the right kind of support at centre, while Sutter gets to play an expanded role. It also gives them a better cap with an improved team.

          It helps the Habs at centre, giving them the dominant forward they have lacked forever. Maybe Fleury finds his form again … I think he can … But in any case his contract is up in two years. And it never hurts the Habs monetarily to add a Quebecer to the line-up.

          I think it is win-win, but what do I know?

          EDIT: Of course Fleury and Malkin have NMC’s and Plekanec has an NTC, so it’s pure fantasy.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

      • wjc says:

        Actually Fluery didn’t win the cup….Pittsburg did. I would love to see Price in a Pittsburgh uniform and win a couple of cups. Listening to the ‘wailing and nashing of teeth’ would make it all worth while.


  70. commandant says:

    Ian McCoshen, an American Defenceman with size and grit is #37.


    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

  71. frontenac1 says:

    Huh? The Mayor of TO was caught smoking Rock with some gangsters and they want 200 grand for the video?He should call that senator in Ottawa. He knows a guy who can cut a cheque and make it all go away.

  72. J.J. of Turku says:

    Here’s something from finnish media:




  73. HabFanSince72 says:

    Gawker is using crowdsourcing to raise $200K to purchase the ROb Ford video.

    They are a quarter of the way there.

    Hope those guys who shot the video are in a safe place because someone is probably looking for them right now.

    Either that or the whole thing is a fraud.


    • Propwash says:

      I’m starting to think the whole thing is a sham.


      • commandant says:

        I think there is a ton of evidence in the media that he has an issue with alcohol, and we know he’s been arrested for drinking and driving as well as marijuana possession in the past.

        But how many crackheads are fat and rich like he is? I’m gonna guess its not many. Doesn’t fit the profile of a crackhead.

        Now if you told me he was on cocaine, that wouldn’t really be surprising (not saying he is, just saying it wouldn’t surprise).

        That said, he’s a disgrace as a mayor (not for these issues, but for many, many others).

        Go Habs Go!
        Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

      • habsfan0 says:

        I’d like to think that as well.
        However,Ford has not DENIED the accusations per se, and has cancelled his weekly Sunday afternoon radio show.

        Something’s afoot.

  74. J.J. of Turku says:


    Sweden was beatable in the second period. But it’s 2-0… This has happened too often against Them. The Sisters-Sedin PP-line is too good.

    Tallinder (from Buf & Team Sweden) has a house here in Turku. Is it OK to say here in the internet, I’m going to spray his windows and leave a surprise to his mailbox? 😀


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