Defenceman Lernout, forward Audette among Habs’ six draft picks

The second day of the NHL Draft started Saturday morning with the Buffalo Sabres selecting Brendan Lemieux, the son of former Canadien Claude Lemieux, with the first pick of the second round.

The Canadiens, who didn’t have a second-round pick, later made a trade to move up in the third round, dealing picks No. 87 and 117 to the Arizona Coyotes in exchange for pick No. 73. With the No. 73 pick, the Canadiens selected defenceman Brett Lernout from the Swift Current Broncos. The Canadiens dealt their second-round pick to the New York Islanders in the Thomas Vanek trade.

Lernout, a Winnipeg native who is listed at 6-foot-4 and 206 pounds, was ranked No. 52 among North American skaters by Central Scouting. In 72 games this past season with the Broncos, Lernout posted 8-14-22 totals, was plus-7 and had 103 penalty minutes.

Lernout didn’t think he’d be selected high in the draft, so he didn’t make the trip to Philadelphia, instead spending time with his family in Winnipeg.

“I was happy that they thought so much of me that they gave up two picks,” Lernout told The Gazette’s Pat Hickey over the phone. “I think they’re going to need physical defencemen in the future and that’s my game.”

Said Trevor Timmins, the Canadiens’ director of amateur scouting: “He’s a tough kid and we moved up in the draft because we wanted him and we thought there were some other teams that might have grabbed him if we didn’t make that move.”

With their next pick, in the fifth round (125th overall), the Canadiens selected defenceman Nikolas Koberstein from from the Old Grizzlys in the Alberta Junior Hockey League. In 51 games last season, the 6-foot-2, 180-pounder from Barrhead, Alta., posted 5-13-18 totals and had 153 penalty minutes. He was ranked No. 205 among North American skaters by Central Scouting.

With their second pick in the fifth round (147th overall) the Canadiens picked Daniel Audette of the QMJHL’s Sherbrooke Phoenix. Audette (photo above) is the son of former Canadien Donald Audette. In 68 games last season with the Phoenix, the 5-foot-8, 177-pounder posted 21-55-76 totals with 79 penalty minutes and was minus-37. He was ranked No. 75 among North American skaters by Central scouting. Audette was the No. 1 overall pick at the 2012 QMJHL draft.

Donald Audette is an amateur scout for the Canadiens, but Timmins told reporters in Philadelphia that there was no element of nepotism in the pick.

“Whenever we discussed Daniel in our meetings, we asked Donald to leave the room,” Timmins said. “And when the draft started, he wasn’t at the table, he was up in the stands with his son. We felt they should be together.”

Timmins added: “I said before the draft that we weren’t going to ignore a skilled player just because he’s small and Daniel falls into that category.”

In the sixth round (177th overall), the Canadiens selected goalie Hayden Hawkey of the USHL’s Omaha Lancers. Hawkey was named the USHL’s top goalie last season after posting a 22-6-3 record with a 1.99 goals-against average and .926 save percentage.

In the seventh round (207th overall), the Canadiens took forward Jake Evans, who plays for St. Michaels in the OJHL, with their final pick of the draft. In 49 games last season, the 6-foot, 172-pounder posted 16-47-63 totals with 79 penalty minutes. He was ranked No. 106 among North American skaters by Central Scouting.

On Friday, the Canadiens selected Russian left-winger Nikita Scherbak of the Saskatoon Blades with the No. 26 overall pick in the first round. Listed at 6-foot and 172 pounds by Central Scouting, Scherbak led all Western Hockey League rookies in scoring last season with 28-50-78 totals in 65 games. He was ranked No. 15 among North American skaters by Central Scouting.

You can the complete list of draft picks from all seven rounds by clicking here.

(Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

Habs take Russian Scherbak with first-round pick, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Habs take defenceman Lernout with second pick at draft, by Pat Hickey

McCarron remains work in progress for Habs, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Habs need to prove themselves again next season, Therrien says, by Pat Hickey

Subban embracing role as a huge star, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Draft photo gallery,

Welcome aboard, Nikita!

Trevor Timmons on Habs’ draft picks (video),

A look at the first-round picks,


  1. habsfan0 says:

    I hope the Habs try and sign Paul Stastny on Tuesday.

    • on2ndthought says:

      with what money? PK, Eller this year. Tiny, Beaulieu, Gally, Chucky next.

      “a cannonading drive”

      • Me4GM says:

        trade Pleks , Georges , sign Weaver for 2 , let Gionta walk. Try for Statsny with newly freed up money and then…. sign Saku to replace Pleks role and be captain for 1 year. He is just as good in the face off circle as pleks and still creative offensively.


    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      He will cost too much. Already said will not take a paycut from his 6.6 mill last year.

    • Maritime Ronn says:


      I’d ask him what he wants and give it to him…yet the big question is – ” Is Montreal on his radar screen?”

      Perhaps there are about…oh, let’s say > 20 other teams that would do almost anything to land him.
      He has also stated that whatever offer he receives, he will allow Colorado to match.

      A 1-2 punch of Stastny-Galchenyuk are the type of Centers that give a team a very real chance at the Cup…and not the bogus notion of ” Anything can happen if you make the playoffs.”

  2. Trollhunter says:

    Don’t expect much for Gorges… I like him and think he should be the next captain in Mtl but his value in a trade is not much guys which would most likely mean the habs are going to keep him unless they REALLY want to get rid of him which i don’t think is the case.

    S G

    • wild flower says:

      Shot blocking is a huge part of today’s game…and he is recognized as among the best.

      • Loonie says:

        Shot blocking can be taught, looking off a forward backchecking through a lane that allows you to send a stretch pass to a teammate at the opposing blueline between two other defenders and completing that play can’t be.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        The alternate point of view is that he blocks lots of shots because the other team often has the puck inside our zone when he’s on.

        Moving. Forward.

        • johnnylarue says:

          The Gorges Game®

          1. Chase puck into corner
          2. Get plastered by a forechecker
          3. Override pain receptors
          4. Obtain puck and chip it up the boards
          5. Get in shooting lane to block imminent point shot
          6. Override pain receptors
          7. Rinse
          8. Repeat

          • JohnInTruro says:

            Problem is he thinks he’s still in the d-zone when he is in the o-zone and fires it back into the corner EVERY time, it’s so painful.

          • frontenac1 says:

            He likes pain amigo. Makes him feel alive….Nine Inch Nails.

      • neumann103 says:

        Personal anecdote

        I am the second worst player on my beer league team.

        I am exceptionally adept at shot blocking, in part because many scenarios I feel are my responsibility, because I was not fast enough to take the opportunity away.

        My willingness to block shots to compensate for my possession weaknesses is better than nothing but it doesn’t really make me a better player than more talented guys who don’t block shots.

        And as Tom indicates, it can be taught.

        “Et le but!”

      • Trollhunter says:

        true. he’s a great penalty killer and heart and soul kind of guy but his contract is big in price and term. Signing Markov has pretty much forced MB to make a trade on the left side unless he wants to bury beaulieu and/or tinordi in hamilton for another couple of years. The way I see it it’s either Gorges or Emelin. Emelin is worth more on the market me thinks and could be tempting for teams if he’s packaged with Pleks ( if he waves his no trade clause). It could allow Mb to move galchenyuk to centre and maybe bring in a right winger to replace Vanek. Just a thought.

        S G

  3. habsfan0 says:

    The Laffs took Swedish forward William Nylander with their Number 1 pick last night.
    Rumour has it that Don Cherry is not amused.

  4. johnnylarue says:

    Aaaaaand… cue the Mike Ribeiro moment in extra time.

    They had a pretty good run there–almost 50 minutes of acting-free soccer.

  5. rhino514 says:

    Don´t get the constant criticism over Gorges. He´s overpayed, but not by that much.
    There are currenty only 3 defencemen on the Canadiens who can be counted on to consistently play over twenty minutes a game and not get into trouble. Gorges is one of them.
    Gorges impedes a heck of a lot of goals with his boring, safe play, shoot along the boards, shot-blocking style.
    People say he should be a third pairing guy on a championchip team and they may be right, but he´d be a damn good third pairing guy.
    I guarantee everyone that as of today, if you replace Gorges´ minutes with Tinordi, and I think Beaulieu as well, you will end up with a HECK of alot more goals against. That may not be true in two seasons time, but it is true now.

    • Loonie says:

      Here’s the issue. You can replace Gorges with a “Weaver”, a much more reasonable salary that would allow you to spend in other areas. In addition, if you happen to get a very good young defenseman capable of playing heavy minutes to replace Gorges you can put Markov, Subban, Emelin and that defenseman on the ice for around 45 of the 60 minutes in a hockey game, leaving Beaulieu and presumably Tinordi to play only 15 minutes each night.

      If that’s what you want to do, it’s a financial savings, a player upgrade and an ideal development scenario for your other young defensemen. It allows you to transition them in well and gives you money to spend in other areas of need.

      For a team without quality leadership it would be counter intuitive, but if you believe the media, the coaches and executives around the Habs they aren’t short on it.

      Moving Gorges makes sense, regardless of how great of a guy he is.

      • rhino514 says:

        I was very impressed with Weaver, and because of this great pick-up by MB, I concede what you say makes sense….but it is something that has become feasible for the first time only since the trade deadline, and not for the past 3 seasons as many on here would have us believe.
        HOWEVER, and although Weaver played very well in his short time with the habs, he is 35 years old. And we´re hearing that he wants a mult-year deal. And though I don´t have stats to back it up, I don´t think he played against the opponent´s top players the way Gorges did, and if he were thrust in that role, I´m not sure he would be as dependable as we have seen him. Lastly, he´s also a small guy, Gorges is not a hulk, but he´s not small either: twenty pounds difference between them. On some plays and against some opponents, that´s an issue.
        We also don´t really know if Weaver really wants to stay in Mtl. If it´s true he would stay but wants three years, then that´s too much IMO.

        • Loonie says:

          Weaver on Twitter said that he’d sign with the Habs if Subban were willing to take less money.

          A joke, and a funny one, but I don’t think that he’s eager to leave personally.

          In any event. I don’t think the player who replaces Gorges needs to be a veteran. Rumour had it the Habs were pretty hard after Sami Vatanen last night(the discussions with Bob Murray that were all over twitter centered around that).

          Dimitry Kulikov is another the player the Habs have been after since Bergevin took over. For a guy who professes his love for Swedes Bergevin sure has an affinity for Russians eh?

      • neumann103 says:

        Tom, I agree with your analysis but wouldn’t it be better to trade Emelin?

        I figure one of them has to move sometime soon but would rather it be Emelin. The fact that he hits might increase his perceived value (although this season may have lowered it too much).

        I don’t agree with the Yandle for Pleks and Gorges idea downthread as while obviously good, Yandle adds to the logjam on D and losing Pleks would be bad bad bad.

        I would be very tempted (training camp permitting) aiming at a starting D of:

        Markov Subban
        Beaulieu Gorges
        Tinordi Weaver

        “Et le but!”

        • Loonie says:

          The reason that I personally would hang onto Emelin is because of his upside. He’ll never be a fifty point guy but his passing and offensive creativity dwarfs Gorges’.

          He’s not as sound from a positioning standpoint but my goodness, playing the poor bugger on a rehabbing knee, on his wrong side can’t exactly help that.

          And then there’s the dimension of his checking ability making opposing players uncomfortable. They pretty much refused to carry the puck over our blueline when he’s on the ice.

          • neumann103 says:

            Sure. I was very high on Emelin before he came over and his first two seasons bore that out. I think he is underrated offensively and the best choice for 4th PP Defense when the Habs were throwing everyone but.

            My eyes say that he is much worse on the right side (although apparently most of the advanced stats don’t really back this up) whereas Gorges seems fine on his offside. While Tinordi seems okay on his offside and I have seen Beaulieu play comfortably on the right at lower levels, I would prefer to not force them to do that while adjusting to the NHL. Last year was almost a lost year for those two due to Therrien’s insistence on playing the vastly inferior Murray and Bouillon over Tinordi and Beaulieu.

            I guess Bergevin really just has to try and make a decent deal for one of the $4M guys who probably shouldn’t be making $4M in order to make room for good kids who make $900K. But it becomes even more crucial next year when the need to sign those kids.

            “Et le but!”

  6. wild flower says:

    Somebody mentioned Tim Bozon being done. Au Contraire:

  7. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Let’s see…the Habs drafted:
    1) a scorer with size and speed….check.
    2) a player with size and grit who can fight well…check.
    3) a Quebecer with scoring talent and potential at a bargain spot…check.

    All they have to do is dump Gorges and it will be an excellent weekend.

  8. Maritime Ronn says:

    Taking EVERYTHING into consideration, picking Audette in the 5th Round/147th overall is a good “Business” move….as the NHL is a Business first.

    Regardless of Audette’s size and talent, Montreal is a ‘unique’ market where “Hope” for the next home grown Guy Lafleur is ever present.

    There is always a population to consider, along with Molson/Coors product consumers to take into consideration.
    Hope is present in every nation – See Leaf Nation.

    And not to forget, this was not a LL 1st Rounder, yet a 5th Rounder where they seldom make the NHL ( Yes Gallagher-few and far between)

    Adding a Quebecois to a pipleine that is very thin in les Quebecois is never a bad Business Decision for the Molson Habs.

    Once guys like Bouillon and Briere move on, the Habs Quebec presence and pipeline is thin:
    Bournival-51-Hudon-(Fucale?)-Dumont -Fournier….

    • Loonie says:

      Drafting a former first overall pick of the QMJHL who is often the fastest, best puckhandling and most skilled offensive player in the building on most nights isn’t a move that a team makes just because his last name is Audette.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Agreed, no disputing that he’s good value for the fifth round, and extremely talented. The local boy angle is a nice kicker.

        • neumann103 says:


          Yeah, I don’t get the negativity (or maybe I do, and it is just sad…)

          I like the Audette pick. A late round so not much of a risk, a Quebec kid, so location and personal relationship through Dad maybe gives them more knowledge of him than other available candidates and if he pans out you have a marketing commodity.

          Passed by because of size Habs just leveraging market inefficiencies.

          I am less sanguine about trading up to #73 for a guy who probably would have been available at 125 while leaving a couple of Top 40ish choices on the board.

          “Et le but!”

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      I’m not sure Audette will sell a single bottle of Molson’s beer. Unless he goes to work for Molson’s.

      Moving. Forward.

    • CH Marshall says:

      As long as they don’t just pick, sign, or trade for guys because of their last name, more and more I think what the Habs culturally represent is incredibly unique and is inseperable from any success we have. I mean the other 29 teams don’t even come close even with all their media rah rah.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      For those who think drafting Audette serves no marketing purpose, go to right now and see what the number one story is…LOL.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Something called “Business”…

      • Loonie says:

        RDS turning it into the number one story is one thing, saying the Habs did it BECAUSE RDS would turn it into a story is another.

        And out of curiosity. How many players taken #1 overall in their junior draft were available for the Habs to take when they got Audette?

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          I am not saying the Habs drafted Audette only because of his name. However, his nationality is an obvious bonus in this marketplace.

          • Loonie says:

            What you’ve just said is much more accurate than the opinions of those who think the Habs drafted him because of his place of residence.

            Like Normand said, it’s a nice bonus. It wasn’t the reason the pick was made, I’d have a hard time believing it was a reason at all.

            Subban sells enough jerseys and he’s from Toronto.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        An hour ago the dude from out west was on

        Before that it was Nikita.

        Moving. Forward.

  9. Commandant says:

    Jake Evans, a C/RW with good size…. obviously at pick number 207 he doesn’t have the same talent as the guy I’m gonna compare him too… but…. he’s the OJHL version of Alex Kovalev.

    When he was on:
    – High skill
    – Great shot… can snipe off the wall on the powerplay.
    – Great stickhandling..
    – Great vision and passing.
    – Doesn’t drop gloves but isn’t afraid to be dirty with a crosscheck or a slash or a face wash in a scrum…..

    Some games I said where is the guy I saw last game?

    Problem: Talent level in OJHL is low.

    Next Year: Notre Dame Fighting Irish.

    Go Habs Go!

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Glad he’s going to the NCAA, we can park him there for three or four years before we make a decision on him. He does seem to be the kind of slender guy with moves who is more of a long shot, will need some time to progress, like Mark MacMillan at North Dakota.

    • Trollhunter says:

      His consistency is concerning but one positive about him going to notre dame is they have a very defensive minded approach to the game. He might become more of a well rounded player (hopefully).

      S G

  10. johnnylarue says:

    Credit where it’s due: the footballers have kept it clean for the past 40 minutes, making it significantly less hard to watch.

  11. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Who would you rather see playing 20 min/game on D (left side) next year: Gorges or Beaulieu/Tinordi? Enough already.

  12. Loonie says:

    Should have drafted the Chilean goaltender.

  13. Loonie says:

    Spezza would not waive to go to Nashville.

    Too funny

    • johnnylarue says:

      It would be a pretty classy move if we all got together and signed a sympathy card for Bryan Murray.

      • Loonie says:

        Meh. I don’t know what he’s been offered but he can’t expect more than what Vancouver got for Kesler. Ottawa seems to overvalue Spezza a great deal. Don’t get me wrong but making that guy captain when he’s lazier than a pet raccoon and expecting a king’s ransom for him is unrealistic.

  14. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Gorges on the way out!

    Please tell me these rumours are legit!

    • Forum Dog says:

      I have not heard these rumours. Where are you getting them?

      • Loonie says:

        Bob McKenzie

        • Forum Dog says:

          Then there must be something to them. Bobo is pretty plugged in.

          EDIT: Just saw it on his twit account. 15 teams that he can be dealt to eh? If he is dealt, wonder if it means they’ll try and fill his spot from within, or sign someone up as UFA. Can’t imagine the return would be more than what they’d be giving up, unless he was part of a package.

          • joeybarrie says:

            Toronto asks about Gorges and apparently he is on his way out??? Seems a stretch.
            No Canadian team on his limited NTC. So far the only thing I would believe is Toronto asked about him…
            “MTL D Josh Gorges’ name is out there in trade talk. TOR made a pitch for Gorges but no CDN team is on list of 15 teams he can be dealt to.” BM

          • Loonie says:

            It would be one thing if Darren Dreger turned Toronto asking about Gorges into the Habs shopping him.

            But McKenzie always prefaces his tweets about specific players with a “just because they’re listening doesn’t mean they’re shopping him”. He didn’t say the Habs were shopping Gorges or that it was just the Leafs asking about him. He said his name is out there, which implies that more than one team has had discussions with Bergevin about him, or that he’s mentioned Gorges to multiple teams.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Having watched Weaver deliver the straight goods for a quarter of the salary, I have to confess that Gorges is starting to look a bit overpaid to me now as well.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I think that with his cap hit, we’re more eager to sell than anyone is eager to buy. It’s unfortunate, with all he’s done for the team, his tireless work, putting up Brendan Gallagher in his home, but that’s the business now, his contract is out of line with what he can produce, and there’s four more years of it to chew through.

    • AH says:

      I second that UH, oh please let them be true!

  15. Arnou Ruelle says:

    I hate to say this, but I’m feeling this year’s draft is turning out to be a joke (Except for the 1st round. Nikita Scherbak was a good pick). There are so many prospects in junior that we can get. And look what we got on the 3rd rd., A questionable player that we may not know if he’ll be NHL ready in a year or two! I applaud the fact that Bergevin and co. made a trade to get the 73rd pick from ‘Arizona’. But instead of picking a “Ryan Mantha”, they get a Brett Lernout. WTF!! Now that stinkin’ NYR team has a McDonagh and now a Mantha. Ahhhh Sh*t!!

    • CH Marshall says:

      If somehow we can get our dirty greasy hands on Anthony Mantha eventually. That’ll be a great addition on RW

      • Arnou Ruelle says:

        Great! At least we know what’s best for the team. Seriously, does the Habs need another goaltender to be drafted here? I mean, what chances does a 6th rounder – Hayden Hawkey have if ever the opportunity for a trade presents itself?

        BTW, I would love to get Anthony Mantha for a trade to either Plekanec and/or Gorges as a package.

    • johnnylarue says:

      There are NO 3rd round picks who are a lock to be NHL players.

  16. Thurston says:

    HABS 7th ROUND SELECTION (207th OVERALL, FOURTH LAST PICK OF THE NHL DRAFT): Forward Jake Evans, who played at St. Michaels of the OJHL. Stands 6′, 172 lbs. (or at least that’s what he’s listed as):

  17. Commandant says:

    @mirtle 4m
    Nonis on Polak: Can play in four-five hole. We feel other people can play that role with Dion.

    @felixpotvin 2m
    @mirtle so by his own admission he traded a first pairing guy for a third pairing guy and gave up a pick and kept salary to do it‏

    Go Habs Go!

  18. habstrinifan says:

    As I said “man of the match” Chili vs Brazil… the referee. What a call. It was close but he’s right. Let the goals be unquestionable and ‘noble’.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  19. habs_54321 says:

    Eric staal 100% in play to be traded, will even eat some salary

  20. habs_54321 says:

    i love the audette pick boy does timmin know how too make good use of 5th round picks

  21. Un Canadien errant says:

    I’d written off Ivan Barbashev since we didn’t have a second-rounder, didn’t have the ammo to go up and get him, but I was hoping we’d have a crack at the Alexises from the LHJMQ later on. Based only on what I could read online, I just liked their size, the fact that they had skill, and the homeboy angle.

    Surprised that Alexis Vanier lasted into the fourth round, maybe not being able to showcase his game in the playoffs hurt his stock. Big defenceman, variously listed at 6’4″ or 6’5″, 225 lbs, supposedly good skillset but still a project, would take time to develop. 15 goals, 36 points in his draft year, he has the skill with the puck, there’s something there to work with.

    He was scooped up in the 4th round, 102nd overall by the San Jose Sharks.

    The other Alexis is Alexis Pépin, who is more of a risk. He’s big, listed now at 6’2″ and 225, has a big, big frame. Trouble is, he’s had trouble with his conditioning, with maturity, in that he ballooned up to 240 or 250 pounds last year, and obviously it wasn’t ‘good’ weight. Still good skill, good shot, has potential. Knocks on him about his will, his ability to battle, and his skating, were thought to be caused in large part by his excess weight.

    Patrick Roy took a chance, the Avalanche got him in the fourth, 114th overall. It’s debatable that the Canadiens would have considered him, given their emphasis on character, and the ability to compete.

    Still, the fourth round is where you can afford to take these long shots. Last year, we were swinging for the fences with players like Martin Reway, who had huge skill but issues due to their size. I wouldn’t have had a problem to gamble on the long shots who have the size, strength, and frame to make it to the NHL, but need to work on their game and their maturity.

    It’s moot in any case, the Canadiens traded up in the third round to snag an enforcer, using their fourth round pick to move up a few spots in the third. I have to trust what they saw, their decision, but that’s what I had in mind, I’d hoped for today at the draft.

    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Posters trashed the Connor Crisp pick last year and look now. Who knows where these guys will be a year from now. In the end, it will all be about Nikita.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I gotta stand up and say I didnt!

        “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Connor Crisp was even more off the radar, these two guys I’m talking about got a bit of hype, a bit of coverage last season and as they were going through their draft year. So Connor was a real surprise early in the third, whereas if they’d spent a third on either Mr. Pépin or Mr. Vanier, it wouldn’t have shocked anyone I would think.

        And, they have this frame that Connor has, with maybe more skill to start with. Obviously though, there is a temperament component that differentiates these guys, the Canadiens think Connor Crips will work and battle for his teammates, they’re entitled to question whether Alexis Pépin will, whether he ever gets that snarl and dedication.

      • Chris says:

        And I am still skeptical that Crisp ever becomes an NHL regular. I just don’t see the skating or the talent.

  22. johnnylarue says:

    Two minutes into watching a huge World Cup game, I see two opposing players jump up and collide slightly mid-air. For a moment, it looks like both players will just get up and keep running, when at the last minute Marcello decides said collision actually caused all of his internal organs to explode, and writhes around on the pitch in agony for 60 seconds…

    The Beautiful Game.

  23. Loonie says:

    Seems Keith Yandle’s name is being bandied about not long after Josh Gorges’ surfaced.

    Now wouldn’t a Gorges + for Yandle deal be interesting?

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Yea but Phoenix needs a center. That is why I thought Pleks for Yandle sort of made sense.

      • Loonie says:

        I would imagine it would have to be Plekanec and Gorges for Yandle. And if this is the way they’re going I like it because while Galchenyuk may not be ready for full-time duty at centre(I think he is), they still have Briere who could slot in at any time.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Going after Yandle would have made sense if they did not sign Markov. Now not so much.

          • Loonie says:

            Going after Yandle makes perfect sense now.

            Markov – Subban
            Emelin – Yandle
            Beaulieu – Weaver/Tinordi/Pateryn


            Gorges – Subban
            Markov – Emelin
            Beaulieu – Weaver/Tinordi/Pateryn

            Yandle compliments either Emelin or Gorges well.

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            Isn’t Yandle a LH D-man that plays the left side? That is why I looked at him as a replacement for Markov.

          • Loonie says:

            He’s a lefty but I believe he plays the right side in Phoenix.

      • johnnylarue says:

        It would really help in our online arguments if Pleky could sit out a dozen games next season to establish, once and for all, just how much the Habs would suck without him.

  24. Commandant says:

    Timmins has picked guys like this before… they didn’t work out but…

    Greg stewart
    Andrew Conboy
    Jimmy Bonneau

    amongst others.

    Go Habs Go!

  25. Forum Dog says:

    Got to say, I like the strategy of trading up to get the mid-round players you want. Teams presumably have pretty focused lists of guys they want in the system, and giving up a 4th rounder so that you can take a known quantity instead of a couple players you don’t really care one way or the other about is pretty smart, especially in those first 3 rounds.

  26. johnnylarue says:

    I like the Audette pick.

    I know the bulk of our offensive prospects are cast from a very similar mold, but even if just one of them turns into a gamer it will have been worth it since they’re primarily late round picks. And the odds are good at least one of these guys is a gamer!

  27. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Looks like the Habs did not just draft character but “characters” as well.

    I predict Lernout will become Front’s favorite player…LOL.

  28. habstrinifan says:

    Reading all the news here on HIOmakes me more impressed with MB. Gorges’ talks; no knee-jerk Gionta signing; Moving up for Lernout; Younger Audette pick…

    MB is not being tied down to some inviolate backroom flowchart. Love it.

    I think Audette was a better pick at 5th round than LL was at 1st round. Get me right.. I am not saying Audette is a better prospect than LL was… I mean relatively speaking Audette is better use of the ‘pick’.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Yeah, he was a better bargain, we got him lower than where he was ranked.

      I still question whether we should take chances on very small players, after last season’s picks of Lehkonen, Andrighetto and Reway. We’re taking three chances on guys on that the Kings or Ducks or Sharks wouldn’t touch, based on their philosophy, and we take another chance this season.

      I get the point, what if their number comes up, what if they’re the winning ticket. I’d counter that with the idea that a big winger who has a lot of holes in his game could also be the winning ticket. We already have taken a lot of chances on small players, let’s take fliers on big guys.

      And yeah, some will argue about balance, how young Mr. Scherbak isn’t small, and Mr. Lernout is big, so you need a bit of both, but the thing is, we’ve already got a lot of small and skilled, we’re already not in balance. To rectify the balance, you don’t get ‘a bit of both’, you load up on what you’re lacking. If the bathwater is too cold, you add hot water, not ‘a bit of both’, you don’t add lukewarm water.

      Practically, I’ll take comfort in the fact that since everyone is stocking up on size, those shelves are going to be very bare, but the ones with small skilled players are going to be well-stocked, there will be a good selection, good value there. But I do suspect that the Canadiens adding Donald Audette to our already relatively slight prospect pipeline was not the way to go.

      • Loonie says:

        You say Reway, Andrighetto and Audette.

        I say McCarron, Sherbak, Bozon, De La Rose.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          And yeah, some will argue about balance, how young Mr. Scherbak isn’t small, and Mr. Lernout is big, so you need a bit of both, but the thing is, we’ve already got a lot of small and skilled, we’re already not in balance. To rectify the balance, you don’t get ‘a bit of both’, you load up on what you’re lacking. If the bathwater is too cold, you add hot water, not ‘a bit of both’, you don’t add lukewarm water.

          • Loonie says:

            I must be missing something because I don’t believe that the Habs have a severe lack of size whether it be among their prospect pool or on the big club.

            Pacioretty, Eller, Galchenyuk and Bourque are part of the top nine forwards and the team will be adding a new player to that group.

            McCarron, De La Rose, Scherbak, Carr, Gregoire and Pribyl are among the prospects.

            The smaller players don’t outnumber the larger players. If there’s no identity among either group and that’s your argument okay, but versatility is a nice attribute to have when you’re trying to be hard to beat and you need young players to fill the void asked of them.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Do not overlook the argument that you have to be ready to take a chance (greater chance maybe) at a French prospect. I am not French but I absolutely want the Canadiens to be remindful of their “Flying Frenchmen” heritage.

        And this pick can be argued on merit (at this draft position) and definitely fulfils that imperative.

        “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          I’m not French either, I’m Québécois, and we didn’t draft anyone from France, there weren’t any prospects from France who were ranked by Central Scouting as far as I could see.

          And I agree that we should value hometown boys on our team, that we should target them and draft accordingly, I just kind of wish that we’d targeted some of the massive prospects who were available until the fourth round. See my lengthy post above about the Alexis boys.

          As always, I’ll add the disclaimer that I’ve never seen any of these boys play, I’m an internet scout and tough guy, so my comments are more about generalities. I have to trust that Serge Boisvert and the rest of Trevor Timmins’ crew are better qualified than I am to make these decisions.

  29. Commandant says:

    Haydon Hawkey.

    Very talented goaltender…. excellent rebound control… decent, not great size…. good post to post…. quick legs… strong glove.

    Good pick…. not sure we needed a goalie… but talented one headed the NCAA route so we have time with him.

    Go Habs Go!

  30. Thurston says:

    ROUND 6 PICK (177th OVERALL): Goalie Hayden Hawkey

  31. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Don’t understand the comments that Timmins is drafting against his philosophy. I’m sure MB has given his opinion but it is entirely possible that Timmins also realized that the organization was desperately lacking players with size and grit. The LA Kings drafted their bottom six too BTW.

  32. on2ndthought says:

    I like Gorges, like Emelin he plays on his wrong side a lot and it makes him look more vulnerable. I’d still trade him for the cap space we will be up against. I really hope PK signs for 7, though 7.5 is more realistic.

    “a cannonading drive”

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      If PK signs for less than 8, he should shoot his agent. I would be asking for 9 over 8 years due to inflation. PK can get 7.5 doing nothing and going to arbitration. Makes no sense.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Exactly…and it will be interesting to see the “Bonus” up front money in Year 1-3.

      • krob1000 says:

        6.5 is where I stand on Pk. I would stand firm there and set the bar and then when Chucky gets good he too will have to realize…no one makes more than Carey. This is the type of philosophy you need to be competitive under the cap. PK’s agent won’t like…I doubt PK really cares….his family isn’t hard up and in MOntreal long term he will be one of the faces of one of the top merchandising franchises around….I know my house has about 500 dollars worth of PK merch alone…those opportunities are far less than in some of the markets that may give him 7.5 and also never have a chance to win.

      • Loonie says:

        How can he get $7.5 million going to arbitration?

        The cap is only $5 million higher than what it was when Erik Karlsson signed his contract.

        You can argue that Subban’s monetary value to the Canadiens is much higher than Karlsson’s is to Ottawa due to the market he plays in generating more revenue than Karlsson on the business side of the organization but Karlsson has scored at a much higher rate in the NHL which compensates for any perceived or even concrete defensive short comings when compared to Subban.

        $9 million annually is what Brian Wilde is floating, and it’s out of this World.

        At the end of the day is this team going to pay Subban $2.5 million dollars annually more than it pays Carey Price? Not if they have any brains.

        Edit: The only way Subban gets a contract more valuable than Price’s is if they backload the hell out of it so that they can play catch-up when Price is eligible for a new deal.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Shea Weber got 7.5. Whatever you think of PK compared to him, they are in the same category. I don’t think the Habs will pay PK 9 but his agent is sure as hell going to ask for it. Look at what Toews and Kane are asking for. I think they will settle around 8-8.5 but there is no way he is signing for less than 8.

          • Loonie says:

            You’re comparing PK Subban with two of the top 10 players in the entire NHL. I adore Subban but he isn’t in that category, and there are still more than a handful of NHL defenseman who are better, and much better than he is, Shea Weber being one of them.

            Keith, Weber and Doughty are at the top of the list.

            Pietrangelo and Karlsson are each signed for $6.5 million, and they’re the best comparable players to Subban, not Doughty and Weber.

            If you’d like to meet in the middle and say $7 million with a backloaded contract I wouldn’t disagree, but that’s the max he’s going to get as a RFA.

          • habstrinifan says:

            I kinda believe in the 7 to 7.5 figure.

            “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:


          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            Sorry I just don’t believe, based on the marketplace, a former Norris trophy winner heading into his prime is going to get less than 8 million per year. Agree to disagree I guess.

          • Loonie says:

            A 40 game Norris Winner.

            Karlsson’s a Norris winner too, in an 82 game season.

  33. Maritime Ronn says:

    Re the Josh Gorges trade talk.

    Big fan of the warrior Gorges, yet the Business of Hockey sometimes gets in the way with a player of diminishing skills.

    Gorges has lost any speed he had, and could be considered a #5 of 3rd pair Even Strength Dman.
    He has no offense or PP worth, yet is valued on the PK.

    For that type of Dman along with the glut of LH Dmen on the Habs, he becomes unaffordable at a Cap Hit of $3.9M/year…for another 4 years.

    A Gorges type Dman (almost Weaver type) should earn between $ 1.5M-$2M…and not more.

    As we are seeing, Cap Dollars are precious, and the top teams usually spend well with very little waste.
    Gorges would fit in well with a team such as Colorado.

  34. krob1000 says:

    I wonder if the Scherpak pick eased the decision to shop Gorges over Emelin? MB made a point of mentioning Markov and Emelin along with Chucky when asked about picking a Russian.

  35. krob1000 says:

    What is up with the Gargamellian comments re audette as 5th rd pick…that is where you gamble on these kids and he has the pedigree and the numbers….although his plus minus is kind of scary.

  36. Forum Dog says:

    Lernout could be a good depth pick. He may never be more than a 6th d-man, but a 6th d-man who can play effectively and be willing (and able) to knock the other team’s teeth out is a good player to have.

  37. on2ndthought says:

    Donald was always improving, and, like Cournoyer, a handful physically despite his size. His injury is indelibly stamped in my head. Hopefully Daniel will follow in his dad’s footsteps, except for the injury.

    “a cannonading drive”

  38. hitgurl says:

    I said small French fries, not small French guys! Damn mark u never listen.

  39. JohnInTruro says:

    This has to be the most fun part of the draft for Timmins and his crew though. Trying to find that diamond that makes the scouting staff look like geniuses.

  40. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    I have no problem with the Habs drafting “smurfs” in later rounds. It is drafting them in the first three rounds that I have a problem with. Especially when size is such a premium nowadays. Timmins has proven you can pick up small scorers later in the draft.

  41. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    Wondering if this will be Trevor T’s last year with the Habs? Looks to me like only a couple of the picks over the past two drafts have his signature.

  42. on2ndthought says:

    wow Chile scores
    Brazil not comfortable in their own half (this is the Brazil I saw in the group stage)

    “a cannonading drive”

    • habstrinifan says:

      It was a mistake. But you ae being harsh. This is not the Brazil from the group stage. This is brilliant driving soceer by Brazil… and also by Chile to a lesser scale (only simply because of the Brazilians skill up front putting Chili absolutely on their heels.) Great great game.

      Man of the match… the referee. He’s letting them play as they say.

      “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  43. Thurston says:

    If Audette had size and skill rather than just skill, he would have went much higher than the fifth round. As it stands, it’s a perfectly suitable choice for late in Round 5.

  44. johnnylarue says:

    I knew losing our second pick (still worth it, btw) was going to screw with the optics of this draft, but this is definitely turning into a bit of a WTF!? year.

    The whole trading up to draft a goon D thing–when our cupboard is almost completely devoid of any offense–is one of those moments that calls for an amount of blind faith in the scouting department that I simply can’t muster.

    I guess reports of this being a shallow draft year were not an exaggeration.

    • Loonie says:

      Depends on how you evaluate scoring.

      Sven Andrighetto, Martin Reway, Jeremy Gregoire and Charles Hudon would probably tell you they’re capable of scoring. The Habs all but lost Tim Bozon through nobody’s fault, he was a pretty capable scorer.

      Scherbak can put it in the net too.

    • krob1000 says:

      That cupboard is gong to stock itself anytime soon scoring wise with a 3d rd pick….that is 3 years away and we don’t know what the cupboard will look like then. I think another tough d is fine…..Habs need to build a tougher tam to play against ….especially when you consider mos tof the top end talent does not fit that description at all.

  45. Loonie says:

    The anti-smurf crowd will be out in full force but this was a fifth round pick and Daniel Audette was a prized possession of the QMJHL draft.

    He’s a late birthday draftee and will likely grow into a larger frame.

    I’d put my money on him being an NHL player before I’d put a cent down on Brett Lurnout being one.

  46. Maritime Ronn says:

    Regarding Andrei Markov, I was extremely happy the Habs re-signed him.
    There was no one on the Habs that would have come close to filling his outstanding 25 minutes including both specialty teams

    That being mentioned, one has to wonder exactly HOW CLOSE he was going the UFA route and playing for the Florida Panthers.

    This is what his partner Carolina Montes tweeted right after the Habs signed Markov:
    ” I was just getting used to the idea of moving to florida!!! I guess not happening for now…. “

  47. HabFab says:

    Bob McKenzie

    MTL D Josh Gorges’ name is out there in trade talk. TOR made a pitch for Gorges but no CDN team is on list of 15 teams he can be dealt to.

    • Loonie says:

      Very happy to hear they’re shopping him instead of Emelin.

      No dislike for Gorges, just his place on the depth chart.

    • Chris says:

      Well, that ought to kill the Gorges to Winnipeg, Edmonton or Vancouver rumours. 🙂

    • Arnou Ruelle says:

      If Gorges’ name is out there for a trade, mgmt. should make a deal now. Why wait for July 1st if they can pull off a “blockbuster trade” of some sort!

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      With Markov’s signing, Emelin’s diificulty on the right side, and Beaulieu/Tinordi something has to happen with the glut of LHD.

      • Loonie says:

        Lends some logic to the pursuit of Garrison.

        Not sure who they could be after as a right handed defenseman in the United States but Chicago’s pretty tight against the cap right now. Roszival wouldn’t surprise me but I want nothing to do with him.

        Suppose it’s more likely that they would be after Vatanen.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Don’t think they were after Garrison. Supposedly it was Garrison who said he wanted to be traded to either TB or Mtl (speculation of advice from Weise).

          • Loonie says:

            I don’t like Garrison’s cap hit relative to what he brings but I wouldn’t rule out that the Habs got serious about acquiring him, makes even more sense to me if they’re shopping Gorges. Wanting a more versatile right handed defenseman to pair with Emelin beneath Subban and Markov is the only reason other than cap hit to move Gorges.

  48. Thurston says:

    For all the Josh Gorges lovers/haters:

    Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m
    MTL D Josh Gorges’ name is out there in trade talk. TOR made a pitch for Gorges but no CDN team is on list of 15 teams he can be dealt to.

  49. Thurston says:

    Habs, of all teams, should have had inside info on Audette since his dad Donald is at the Habs’ draft table as a scout. He was ranked 75th by Central Scouting.

  50. HabFab says:


    “Bangs head against desk”

    Trevor and his damn “habbits”

  51. BJ says:

    Habs pick Daniel Audette.

  52. Thurston says:

    With their second of two fifth round selections (#147), the Canadiens select Daniel Audette from Sherbrooke of the QMJHL:

  53. on2ndthought says:

    Man, was just going to post how fast Brazil looks today. I thought Chile looked great in the group stage, but they are befuddled today (so far).
    Speed kills

    “a cannonading drive”

  54. habstrinifan says:

    Know this is not hockey, but Brazil-Chile at such a high paced game. Every touch needs to be deft. Great soccer so far.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  55. Habs_Norway says:

    Nikolas Koberstein.. roots to the Holy Land, maybe? Like my man Sherbatov; can the Habs buy a 22 y.o player who has not been drafted by a NHL team? Think he belongs to HC Astana, currently playing in France, he played for the Mtl JHC in 2009-2011 before going to Kazakhstan. Got some sick moves.

    Say no to visors and sign Emelin for 10 years

  56. Thurston says:

    He played in Olds, Alberta last year in the AJHL. He was ranked 205th by Central Scouting and the Habs took him at 125. Arpon Basu reports he will play his NCAA hockey at Alaska-Fairbanks.

  57. Commandant says:

    Koberstein is in the AJHL…. don’t follow that league so I can’t tell you much about him…. sorry.

    Go Habs Go!

  58. Haberoooo13 says:

    153 PIMs in 55 games

    Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

  59. WVHabsfan says:

    My fault. He is not Swedish.

  60. WVHabsfan says:

    We just drafted another d man from Sweden.

  61. Thurston says:

    Habs just took defenseman Nikolas Koberstein with their first of two fifth rounders:

  62. CH Marshall says:

    Still enjoying the Sherbak pick. Got a feeling itciuld be a steal

    • Phil C says:

      I’m impressed that the Habs are prepared enough to take players that fall to them instead of falling in love with the player they think they will get. I remember the year Cam Fowler kept falling all the way to 12th with teams taking lesser players. This may be part of the reason why the Habs are good at drafting.

      • CH Marshall says:

        Thats interesting, because one would think that’s a logical way to draft. I think about Subban’s case, and Im sure Timmins and co were happy to pick him at 47

        • Phil C says:

          I’m speculating, but maybe teams are afraid to take players they haven’t interviewed or really looked at, so they stick with who they scouted, ie players they expect to be available.

  63. Sportfan says:

    two picks in the 5th round, that’s where we get really lucky so hopefully the two guys we draft there are studs!

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

  64. Arnou Ruelle says:

    Ah, bummer! I was hoping the Habs can get to rd. 2 to get MacInnis and/or Cornel. Sabres took Lemieux. Who the hell is Brett Lernout? This is his stats according to the WHL:

  65. Thurston says:


    25stanley ‏@25stanley 2m
    #habs Marc Bergevin se claque une petite jasette avec le GM des #leafs Dave Nonis.

  66. JohnInTruro says:

    Dalton Thrower’s younger bro Josh vs Lernout. Thrower was 16 in this fight!

  67. CJ says:

    He’s a project. Most drafted outside the top five are. The time to evaluate the pick will be in 3-5 years, not this afternoon. It’s fun to read up on the kids drafted this weekend and watch clips on youtube, but there is a very long road between the podium in Philly and playing a game in the NHL. If we can get 2 or 3 players out of six (we just lost a pick to trade up), then that will have been a very good haul. That’s the reality of drafting. Even the best pick duds.

    Heading to the golf course.

    Cheers, CJ

    • Chris says:

      Getting 2 or 3 out of 6 will be tough when you draft a goon in the 3rd round and don’t have any opportunities to do anything until the 5th round. Odds are that Scherbak is the only one from this draft that ever sees an NHL game. Not even remotely a fan of that trade and pick in the 3rd round.

      • Phil C says:

        You gotta wonder if the Habs see something more in this kid. Have you seen him play?

        Otherwise, I tend to agree with you. Goons are often available on waivers at the beginning of each season, why not snag one there instead.

        • Chris says:

          I didn’t like the McCarron pick last season, and this one isn’t much better. You can definitely tell that this isn’t just Timmins’ show anymore. We’ll see if the new philosophy is any more successful.

  68. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    Over 100 picks and not sure i’ve seen one home grown player from the Q?

  69. on2ndthought says:

    Big? check
    D? check
    Right handed? check

    “a cannonading drive”

  70. Haberoooo13 says:

    Not a fan of trading up for a goon…hopefully he can play decent D

    Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

  71. careysubban3176 says:

    Must have saw something about this kid to move up. Hopefully he turns out good

  72. Slackman says:

    I like this guy.

    “A Gypsy mutant industrial vacuum cleaner dances about a mysterious night time camp fire. Festoons. Dozens of imported castanets, clutched by the horrible suction of its heavy duty hose, waving with marginal erotic abandon in the midnight autumn air.”

  73. Thurston says:

    I don’t know a lot about this kid but he seems like a tough bastard. I’m fine with the pick.

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