Habs skip practice

AUDIO from Carolina: Cam Ward | Paul Maurice | Hal Gill | Mathieu Darche | Jacques Martin

You would think a team which has lost two games in a row and five of its last six could use all the practice it can get but coach Jacques Martin decided to scrub a scheduled practice this morning in Dallas. The team will leave their hotel in Big D at 11 a.m. and arrive in Raleigh in mid-afternoon, about two hours earlier than originally scheduled.  They’ll face the Carolina Hurricanes tomorrow night. It will be the third of seven consecutive road games and the last game before Christmas.


  1. drivefor25 says:

    Go cheer for another team because it’s obvious you’re no Habs fan. You haven’t been missed in recent weeks/months.

    Fan since ’71

  2. avatar_58 says:

    For the life of me I don’t get it. Guys like Gionta – vets…..missing the net by like 20 feet. I mean come on, we can yell at Gomez all day but when he passes to a shooter and the shooter misses WHILE in the slot – how the hell is it his fault?

  3. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hey my little fella can also pick a corner, but this isn’t the place to be discussing one’s sex life.


  4. The Cat says:

    I believe the benching had nothing to do with his play. How does one go from leading the team in icetime to riding the pine for 3 games?


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  5. avatar_58 says:

    Yeah they showed some foresight on that one eh? Everytime I hear his name I cringe wishing they’d kept him.

  6. Omit says:

    Tony 242

    As usual, you are wrong AGAIN! 

    How is it possible for you to always be wrong.  You’re not even as smart as a clock.

  7. sholi2000.com says:


    If my little fella can pick a corner, they should be able too!

    They Call Me Shane

  8. The Cat says:

    Yes I believe so…I do think the habs D need some offensive upside but JM has to be more forgiving if a d-man takes an offensive risk and it doesnt work out.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  9. sholi2000.com says:

    Very true.

    Also if they would have scored on two of the pp, and maybe the first couple minutes of the game.

    It happens, I can handle a few loses.

    People seem to think that you have to win every single game in the season.

    They Call Me Shane

  10. observer says:

    proved wrong? sure looks like the playoff run was a fluke nownot last regular season of 88 points in 8th place where they will be once boston plays those games in hand.

  11. Captain aHab says:

    Gotta agree the whole waffle thing is great. The commentator’s call the other night was priceless too…..”the puck is shot in wide and…..uhhhhh….WAFFLES!” lmao

    You can’t make this shiot up.

  12. sholi2000.com says:

    Ah that’s better eh?

    December 22.  We had peace on earth for over three months, lose a few games and people who think they know more than the Canadiens staff show up.

    Teams lose people, look at the Caps.  Perfect example, and they have far more talented players than our team.

    They Call Me Shane

  13. observer says:

    Question? That defenseman Robidas of Dallas who was +3 last night and had 3 assists – is it true the losers Gainey/Gauthier let him go?

  14. joeybarrie says:

    Same old comments that when are proved wrong, the trolls disappear. When the team is slowing they come back to stir the crap. Make sure you understand something very very important. Gainey/Gauthier have created a team that can win. We are right now a top team in the East. We are one or two players short of the top. One of them we have, but is injured. But of course, I guess G and G should have two Markov’s around just in case. Cause only dumb GM’s dont have that…

    You will be gone soon, with no food to eat. But hey thanks for coming out and rubbing salt into the wound. YOU ARE A TRUE HABS FAN…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  15. joeybarrie says:

    80+ games in the last 2 years without your best players gets really old. We need to bring in a top D. Only so much our YOUNG AND OLD defence can do. Especially with Gorges hurt.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  16. newbrunswick troy says:

    well said DOG …i was going to write something just like you did, but since you did it so effortless i will just echo you sentiment!!!!! 

    oh and you spelling and punctuation is much better displayed then mine as well!!!!!!!

  17. avatar_58 says:

    What do you propose they do about Price? Good lord, if he’s a starter – he plays starter minutes. He’s doing fine, he can’t be expected to stop all breakaways and tip ins. Also Auld sucks big time, if he were playing last night it would have been a massacre.

  18. habsguy says:

    I’m a HUGE habs fan living in toronto, the only inside news I get is here!!!!….A friend I have from Montreal tells me the problem with PK is his attitude and not his play, he tells me his mates are all sick of him and thats why he was benched…..anyone hear anything like that????

  19. joeybarrie says:

    WRONG ON BOTH ACCOUNTS… I am, as are over a million others, part of the Canadiens organization. Its an emotional attachment and have only a life long investment. 2 parts of the Habs org. One gets paid, the other pay…

    As for my marrying into an Italian family with more Joe’s than i can rememeber, I will let you draw your own conclusions… That being said, I do know a few people who have been around and it seems as if those who SAY they have ties, are the ones who live down the street from a guy who they barely know but seem to be ‘like brothers’, and the ones who say nothing at all… Well those are the ones who i think know not to open their mouth.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  20. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hey look everyone, Tony’s back.

  21. derfab says:

    Missed nets, missed checks, missed victories all adds up to a crisis of faith. The Habs lack confidence and seem to need a saviour. Price has done it so far but Gauthier needs to bring in a big time player or two to get these guys going again. The supporting cast of Pacs, Pouliot and AK 46 can’t be expected to fill this role.

  22. observer says:


  23. joeybarrie says:

    JM knows this is a brain thing and not a physical thing. If its true and we got the flu, a break can only help. We have fall back into the spot where things were working, and sometimes practice can make it worse. Our team is excellent when we are simply working together they way we know how to.

    I have to agree with JM, a feel sorry for yourself practice away from home during the Holiday season is not going to do anything. Move on to the next city and turn it around.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  24. Bugs says:

    Here is the link to maple leafer Central. Cryin about how the waffle thing isn’t funny. What’s great is that by them cryin about how not funny the waffle thing is, it only makes it funnier.

    We couldna PLANNED this better, folks.

    See? Whenever things are lookin grim up here, all one’s gotta do is check out what these delightful Ontarian clowns are up to and if that doesn’t do the trick of cheerin one up, then nuthin will.

    Here’s an excerpt: “It was not funny a few weeks ago when Francois Beachemin was smacked in the head, and it certainly wasn’t funny last night.”

    See what I mean? C’mon! Yeah, uhh (mmph!)…not funny at all…(mmph!-snort)…

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  25. HabFanSince72 says:

    You tell’em Timo!

  26. HabFanSince72 says:

    IN FACT I have NEVER even met him.

    I conclude that you don’t belong to either of these two orgainzations: the Canadiens and the Mob.


  27. Mark C says:

    a team that will battle for the eighth playoff spot. This year, next year, and forever and ever, amen (or at least until the Pollyannas realize what an albatross Gomez and his fat contract are).

    This argument is so wrong. The Blackhawks won the Cup with almost $13M in cap space spent on Huet and Brian Campbell. If the Blackhawks can win while spending almost $6M on the goalie with the 3rd worst SV% in the league and another $7M on a player like Campbell, then Gomez’s contract can’t be blame for holding Montreal back that much. Gomez is overpaid, but only by $2-$3M, and not $7M.

  28. joeybarrie says:

    You know Timo. RIGHT NOW you are correct. we had alot of great chances last night and for most of them we couldnt even hit the net. But it happens. You think too much about missing the net, and then you do it. Its not easy. Cammi and Gio will get it back. AK will keep his .6 point a game, and I think MaxPac will stick around.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  29. Kooch7800 says:

    Boston will pass us in January for sure. Boston is playing pretty well and the habs are cooling right down. 

  30. Ian Cobb says:

    Hab’s skipping rope at practise,! how very nice.!

    NOW GET TO WORK! You,! You,! You,!………. Millionaires!!!!

  31. joeybarrie says:

    5 games in 11 days is not what I would call RUNNING YOUR GOALIE INTO THE GROUND.

    Teams go hot, teams go cold. Especially teams with major injuries. AS A TEAM our guys cannot keep up with the work load. The bottom line is to have depth. YES we have depth, BUT not to beat the top teams.

    Dallas, Colorado, Boston, Philly, Detroit. 5 of the top teams in the league out of the last 6 games, and 3 of them away. Thats the story with our slump. In the LOSSES category, these 5 teams make up HALF of the top ten.

    In the end it is simple. We absolutely NEED a top defenseman. We have lost a player who was included in over 25% of our scoring when he was on the ice. Without a replacement, we are an above average team that has problems scoring, but is very good defensively. Interesting since our Defence players individually are not the best in the league. That’s where JM comes in. But alot of people do not see that. They criticize him for everything they THINK that should be done. I would not have benched AK…. But then again, I do not work with him every day. IN FACT I have NEVER even met him. So what the hell do I know. Honestly, about AK’s situation…. NOTHING. Rumors, innuendo and half truths.

    We are one game out of 8th place, BUT we have games in hand on a few teams. In the East, AGAIN, it’s tight. 5 teams are seperated by four points.

    Pittsburgh and Philly are the teams in the East. The rest are good but have holes. If we can fill up ours. Then we are back on track. If we cannot, then we are struggling to be somewhere near the top and hopefull to steal a series in the playoffs.

    We have players, not robots. Apparently we are fighting the flu? Whatever, all the teams have the same thing over the course of the season… 6 Games into a losing streak and we are still sitting 3rd (by a string). Not the end of the world. We can hopefully end it right now.

    We are aware of what we can do. The question is will we be able to accomplish it. Not an easy task to simply get a top player and not give up too much. I have no real big problem with giving up picks. We end up in the top and get a low pick anyways. I personally feel that anything 15 and under and its luck of the draw anyways. On the flip side of that coin, we have a few guys that i wouldnt cry about if we lost. Players that are easily replaceable in the short term, and our young guys will hopefully fill that out in the long term. MaxPac has had a GREAT 3 games.

    We just got to KILL Carolina and all will be ok.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  32. luca says:

    I think Gionta needs a soccer net

  33. shiram says:

    If you wanna waste your ticket price, go ahead. The guy in Toronto has just been banned from ACC, and any Maple Leafs events. Besides, we are not as bad as the Loafs, and our team doesnt deserve such treatment.

  34. Hobie Hansen says:

    How many chances did Pacioretty get robbed on last night, wow! If a couple of those chances were converted into goals it would have been a different outcome.


    Hopefully Kostitsyn is able to recompose himself and is inserted back on the top line with Cammalleri and Plekanec for tomorrow’s game.


    I think we have the makings of two very good scoring lines and the support staff that should consist of Pouliot, Moen, Halpren, Darche, Lapierre and Eller, make two very good 3rd and 4th lines.


    The one hole that must be filled is on defense. Hopefully we can hang around until the deadline draws closer and either sign a rock solid, stay at home defenseman or a real offensive threat. We don’t seem quite deep enough on the back end, especially since Subban has come back down to earth.      


  35. Favorite Son says:

    I completely agree. None of them know how to aim. Gionta’s the worst one right now, he keeps missing so many chances and his shots don’t hit the net. Pouliot doesn’t even shoot anymore and he should because he has a strong shot. Even Cammalleri the sniper is missing the net.

  36. Itsik says:

    I totally agree, if they continue like this, i have to begin adding waffles on my shopping list…or better we should start bag some extra poutine souce, cheese and fries, and orgenize a whole poutine orgy on ice when they play like that at the bell centre…..


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  37. Itsik says:

    I totally agree, if they continue like this, i have to begin adding waffles on my shopping list…or better we should start bag some extra poutine souce, cheese and fries, and orgenize a whole poutine orgy on ice when they play like that at the bell centre…..


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  38. shiram says:

    For all the talk about Gomez having to go, no one really suggests any realistic feasible way we could trade him, not only that but the need to fill in a second line center afterwards. Besides, his line has been playing great since MaxPac was called up.

    He might be overpaid, but he is still our second best center.

  39. CBrady12 says:

    these so called professional hockey players can’t hit a freaking net if their spoiled rich overpaid lives dependent on it.


    jelous much?

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Andrei being on the ice when the team mailed in garbage against CLB, NSH, EDM this season certainly showed it’s all about Andrei isn’t it? Wait… this team has been absolute crap against half WC the before this happened. This is an issue going back years where the team doesn’t raise their game for the WC opposition nearly as often as they should,

    2. He’s just making the same mistakes more often, and his ‘veteran partner’ Picard isn’t helping him settle it down anymore. Picard should be dumped off of his pairing very soon.

    3. He was until the last 5, but Spacek declining hasn’t helped and the only time OB was useful on a top pair was when he got paired with Markov.

    4. If Carey is the starting netminder, he has to be ready to take on almost the full load as that’s his job but I agree he seems to be making less of the miraculous saves lately (or the luck is just against him on those bounces) but again, he is getting the same bad luck with being screened by his own team/deflected off their sticks more lately. Still say he’s not going to much help to MTL if he plays 70+ before playoffs though.

    5. Gomez’s line is producing more so that’s going to offset needing to rely on Pleks, he’s starting to get points.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  41. shiram says:

    1. I dont get benching AK, reduce his team, take him from the pp, but benching him, makes no sense with the info we have

    2. No he isnt, I think he needs to be paired with a veteran D-man, maybe Gill, and Gorges could be the mentor to Picard and/or Weber.

    3. I wouldnt want ROB back, and he could not replace Markov, also Hammer cannot be the same offencive presence Markov was, and he and Spacek needs to have their time managed closely.

    4.Price looked great all of the early season when he played all those games, and while his play isnt as great as it was, he still is awesome. But I’d play Auld some more definately.

    5. Yea they arent playing better…

    6.Halpern is still a great deal, but you cant rely on your fourth line for your offence, the issue is not with him I’d say.

  42. NightRyder says:

    Many wise points Poochie.

    Some of my rants here tend to be overwraught and long-winded. But the basic thoughts I harped about all off-season haven’t changed, even though some no longer apply.

    1. Price over Halak, he’ll be fine.

    2. Gomez is an overpaid pud who has to go.

    3. Coaches should have been Boucher and Larry Robinson if we wanted any chance of developing our kids properly.

    4. O’Byrne was being underused and six-foot-five, 240-pound, right-shooting d-men who can skate and have some toughness should be assets, not pine-riders.

    5. We’ll compete for the eighth playoff spot forever and ever, and I’m OK with that if we have a hot goalie.


  43. Timo says:

    Forget bag skating… how about some tutor shooters? Freak, these so called professional hockey players can’t hit a freaking net if their spoiled rich overpaid lives dependent on it.

  44. SeriousFan09 says:

    If the question isn’t “who should be the 1st-line center in Hamilton” than Desharnais is not the solution.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  45. J_P says:

    December strikes again for the habs.  Year after year, the habs have trouble in december.

    They really have to lighten the load on Carey, he’s actually looking real tired out there.

  46. adamkennelly says:

    agreed.  opponents impose their will on this team and there is nothing we can do.  Price plays lights out and this team wins – avg or worse and team looks really bad.  small Forwards are kept on perimiter and team has zero intimidation factor.  this is hockey – NHL hockey – not european hockey and size, aggression and physical play are factors.  Habs have none and cannot respond at all – it hurts this team.

    How many other teams in the league would let their #1 rookie go challenegd without a response.  I know PK can “handle” himself but give me a break – huge problem.

  47. NightRyder says:

    It’s amazing how quickly the worm can turn here. A decent streak of play and we’re a fleding dynasty. A few losses and it’s time for a massive overhaul. 

    Instead, to paraphrase Dennis Green, we are who we thought we are – a team that will battle for the eighth playoff spot. This year, next year, and forever and ever, amen (or at least until the Pollyannas realize what an albatross Gomez and his fat contract are).

    A team (like many others) that will struggle mightily without Herculean efforts from our goaltender.

    A team that absolutely cannot overcome the fulltime loss of one of the league’s 10 best defencemen.

    A team that will absolutely struggle to properly develop its young players because the situation they are placed in precludes them from being able to push through their many youthful mistakes. It means the coach will sit them on the bench to “think about their mistakes” when he’s really covering his own ass and trying to win enough games to keep his job (and how can you blame him I guess).

    We will never be truly bad, because the intense pressure from the media and jackals like us dictates otherwise. So, we’ll continue to bring in stopgap, servicable NHL veterans who will do two things – take away valuable growth time for our youngsters and always keep us in the playoff hunt.

    To paraphrase another great orator, Todd Bertuzzi, it is what it is. Unless Price plays out of his mind come playoff time, this is another middle-of-the-road squad, like many before it and many to come.

    Just hope to get into the dance and hope Price will grow back his ‘stache and sneak away with the girl at the end.

  48. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. As I said elsewhere putting AK46 on the 4th line didn’t snap him out of his coma.

    2. But he was making even more mistakes when he had confidence.

    3. Right about Hamrlik. Forget O’Byrne, he’s not very good.

    4. Sure looks that way.

    5. Yes.

    6. Gomez line is better now.

    7. It could be worse. (Calgary, Ottawa, Toronto)

  49. shiram says:

    Losing 5 out of the last 7 game to me is a slump, more so as the Habs had much better win ratio before.
    But I don’t have much to say about JM and PG, it is sometimes frustrating to see JM and his lack of emotion, but he usually does great, though i often cannot make sense of his decision.

  50. SmartDog says:

    The fact is that a dip in the season is not uncommon, nothing to freak out about or start juggling lines or crying in your beer.

    But as a Habs fan this is frustrating, and in some ways concerning because:

    1. We FINALLY have a top 6 and Martin benches one to “send a message” to everyone else.  What message? That he wants us to suck?

    2. Subban is not playing with the confidence he had.

    3. Hamrlik, a -3 last night is obviously not up to carrying the Markov load for any lenght of time (and we dumped O’Byrne who now is racking up minutes in Colorado).

    4. Price is being ridden into the ground.  Why the Habs always want to milk this kid as if he’s made of metal I don’t know but it was a mistake last year when he was playing 5-6 games in a row and it’s a mistake this year when he’s playing 10 in a row.

    5. Some of our bubble players like Pouliot are, for a variety of reasons playing worse not better.

    6. The Halpern burst that started the season has slowed and so we’re back to over-relying on the Pleks line (see point 1 for why this is a non-starter).

    And most of all…. for me the Habs main probem is that they can only win when either Price plays out of his mind, or the whole rest of the team plays at their best.  If Price has an average game and the team doens’t absolutely shine, we lose.  This is not yet a powerful hockey team.  It’s a pretty good team, and a very good team when team play is on and near-perfect.  But I still say what what we lack in consistancy is in part because of a lack of team toughness.  We don’t have enough guys who can drive to the net and take abuse and come back for more.  And without enoug toughness the team wears down, smaller guys doing too much.  This is my view, I am sure there are others.

    And yes, I think Martin has a good system, is a good coach in that way etc. but his favoritism toward veterans and picking on other whipping boys is messing up the team.  We lost a solid well-developed player in O’Byrne who we could use now, and he’s benching guys that need to step up and have stepped up in the past while other non-performers are still avoiding hot areas, not playing a 2-way game, and being left to lollygag game after game. This hurts team morale.

    The habs may snap out of it, just a bump in the road. But I predict that without a boost in toughness, and without Martin being more appropriate in his benchings, and without Price getting a bit more rest, we’re going to be trying to squeak in to the playoffs again.


  51. dh says:

    Didn’t we outshoot the Avs by a wide margin?  I think the problem is putting them in the net for some reason.  How many times do you hear Pierre Houde’s “filet ouverte – encore raté”? 

    I don’t get that.  Is the team snakebit for some reason?

  52. observer says:

    maybe last year’s playoffs not last year’s regular season was the aberration?

  53. CBrady12 says:


  54. observer says:

    13 losses and by end of road trip if boston wins a few , the habs are back fighting for 8th and 9th place.

  55. Timo says:

    Maybe they are not that good after all. Very highly paid though… noone will dispute that.

  56. Storm Man says:

    Lord Matin called for no practice today. I know the reason why he did that, He has a mid-afternoon system seminar to be at in Raleigh.

  57. Say Ash says:

    Uh, so let’s go bowling?

  58. observer says:

    This is not the roster of a Cup winner. This mediocre at best team was built by Gainey/Gauthier over now 8 years.

  59. PrimeTime says:

    4-5-1 in the last 10 including losing the last two to Av’s and Stars (two of the hottest teams) is a slump? Man the bar has been raised high for a bunch of fans who proclaim that JM and PG suck at their jobs. You would think lowered expectations would be in order and the overall record beyond expectations?

  60. SmartDog says:

    Sad that this is a ‘rose-coloured glasses’ post and that it’s not that far off.



  61. observer says:

    Loss number 13.

  62. shiram says:

    So the slump is on, and its for real… I was thinking about it last night, and wondered what was wrong, and I thought about our low offence style, does it hurt us?
    We are 25th and 26th respectively in shot on goal for, and shot on goal against. Now this can be taken as a good news/bad news scenario.
    For one, we allow alot of shots, but we manage to not allow many goals (Thank Carey!).
    Bad news though is that we dont have many shots on goals, and so we score few goals…

    Gio is doing is fair share, and his the 6th in the league for shots on goal with 138, though he is 35th in goals. Cammy has 102 shots, and his ranked 31st. Both have 12 goals and are our goal leaders.

    Then Pleky and AK46 with 85 shots each, and 10 and 9 goals respectively.

    Afterwards it starts to drop swiftly, with Lapierre and Subban with 73 and 81 each, 5 and 2 goals respectively.

    I think we need to shoot more, and try to create opportunities for a scrum in front of the net, those ugly goals are just as good as the fancy ones.

    Missing Markov hurts, but we aren’t an awful team without him, there will be good streaks and bad streaks…

  63. observer says:

    So if the Bruins with those games in hand pass the Habs, Habs are back in 8th place fighting for a playoff spot all over again. I realize no trades can be made until after holidays, but why has Gauthier not made a move/trade to bolster this team since Markov went down and there is cap room? Why hasn’t he found a deal? Why is AK a healthy scratch diminishing his trade value? This is a long year, already of the first 9 eastern teams only the Rangers lost more games than the Habs.

  64. nickster13 says:

    unfortunately, with all these losses, cant look at positives, can only look at all these losses

  65. HabFanSince72 says:

    Rose-coloured glasses assesment of last night: Dallas didn’t actually dominate us – they didn’t even play that well. Their first goal was iffy (batted in with  a glove) and their 3rd shouldn’t have counted (ref is supposed to blow the whistle when he can’t see the puck). Price wasn’t bad but he is probably tired.

    Realisitc assesment: Price is tired. AA, like his poker hand, is rarely seen. Our Defensive corps is quite poor, meaning the attackers have to help out on D (Martin’s system) meaning we don’t score. Gionta, big-hearted guy that he is, is probably the worst Habs captain ever in terms of actual hockey skill. The only forward who gives everything on every shift is Darche. Team confidence is not good.


  66. adamkennelly says:

    Habs lost that game and many others recently because opponents imposed their will on the game.  last night, Dallas drove our net constantly with no push back and at the other end – kept our team on the perimeter.  Habs can’t score because the team collectively does not provide the best environment for our skilled guys to succeed.  Instead of having a 3rd and 4th line made up of guys who chip in goals here and there, why not build those lines in order to maximize the success of the top 6 – and team will be much better off.



  67. Mark C says:

    More like 17th for total goals for and 19th of goals per game

  68. bertuzzisucks says:

    Call up Dersharnais now! We need some ENERGY! Sit Benoit P as he just skates in circles right now,

    sit Picard and get Weber in there. We need a SHOT on the point.


    Cammy Plek Akot

    Pac Gomez Gio

    Moen Halpren Darche

    Eller Dershanais Lappiere.


    Subban Gorges

    Gill Webber

    Hammer and Spacth

  69. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    This team better get serious about putting some points on the board and trying to pull away a bit from Boston in the division.

  70. BrianSkrudland says:

    2nd worst in the league in the goals for department, eh? It really is a sad stat to consider. The Habs have many good offensive players, so it really is a puzzle as to why they can’t put the damn puck in the net.


    Is a matter of strategy, heart, luck, opponents? Who knows? Something needs to change, and soon.

  71. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’ve seen a lot of Cup winners

    I’ve been in a lot of planes. I still don’t think I could fly one.

  72. gohabsgo25 says:

    First of all we need to score more goals were the 2nd worst team in Goals For.


    Secondly the lines should be


    Cammy Plek Akot

    Pac Gomez Gio

    Pouliot Halpren Darche

    Moen Eller Lappiere.

    Subban Gorges

    Gill Webber

    Hammer and Spacth


    we need more scoring and need a better d group. picard should sit and insert webber in he is dieing to play.


  73. joshua94k says:

    Mr. Martin, here is some free advice. I’ve seen a lot of Cup winners and the formula for succes has not changed much. Put these lines together and let them develop some chemistry. If they are kept for the duration of the road trip, the Canadiens will be on top.

    Subban – Gorges (energetic and steady, sort of like Robinson and Savard, Gorges will lay back and let Subban be creative and set-up plays.

    Spacek – Hamirlik (the steady shut down team, sort of like Ludwig and Green)

    Gill – Picard/Webber (the experienced Gill with one of these young proteges will be a good balance, I’d try Webber, he is due after sittting out for a few games and his offence can balance with Gill’s steadiness)

    Cammalleri – Plekanec – Kostitsyn (if it ain’t broke don’t fix it, the key line during last year’s play-off run, the only line where Kostitsyn scored with frequency until it was broken up, he hasn’t been the same again)

    Gionta – Gomez – Pacioretty (Pacioretty has been the missing piece in the puzzle that has taken a while to solve, he is playing well and both he and Gionta can take a lot of shots, ample opportunities for Gomez to set up plays)

    Eller – Haplern – Darche (the ‘goto’ line that never stops working, they can win key face-offs, score and shut down the opposing team’s top line, sort of Gainey, Jarvis, Skrudland, McPhee, Wilson etc)

    Pouliot – Lappierre – Pyatt (the intensity and energy line that can draw penalties and can score as well, sort of Tremblay, Riseborough, Lambert, Nilan, Walter type of players)

    With Price in nets, this team can go very far, what it needs is a consistent line-up where players get to play with each other for a while and develop some consistency together.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  74. SmartDog says:

    Forget practice. What they need is rest and a massage.

    And another MaxPac.


  75. HabFanSince72 says:

    The best thing about the waffles is the commentators asking “what does it mean?” over and over. Post-modern irony comes to the NHL. I love it.


  76. SmartDog says:


    All it “means” is the Leafs are a joke.  And so are their fans, if they’re paying $200 to sit up close and the most fun they can have is throwing waffles.


  77. LA Loyalist says:

    Skip practice? Damn it Jim – they are skipping entire games.

    There not a lot of brain work required to analyze this road trip, amigos. 

    1. The other teams are working harder than we are. Gee, isn’t that preparation and coaching?

    2. This is the NHL, not the Danish-Open-Faced-Sandwich-League (DOFSL), it’s a long hard slog, and we are too small and too soft and too country-clubby to cut it over the long haul. That’s on BeeGee and PeeGee.

    3. Of course we miss Markov, but that’s not an excuse. 

    4. Think where we’d be if Price was playing rotten like last year. That shows you the talent and effort level of our out players.

    When you don’t have enough talent you have to work harder than everyone else. That’s the message that JM is not getting up on the Jumbotron.

    Sad but simple. Maybe we can ask Santa for those cool new 3D rose colored glasses. Apparently some of us already have pre-production samples.

    too sad for tagline


  78. The Cat says:

    This is where the coach is nice when he shouldnt be. The team may respond in Carolina, but if they dont, seems like Carbo days all over again.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  79. SmartDog says:

    Cat, you stole my thought.  I was gonna say it feels like Carbo all over again.  He’s zigging when he needs to zag, bobbing when he needs to weave.  Benching the wrong guys, rewarding the wrong other guys. 

    Next he’s gonna ride Price until he breaks and then say “I don’t know what’s wrong”.


  80. dre1744 says:

    Maybe they just need too go Bowling!!!!!!!!!!

  81. sims says:

    We’re lucky that staal never has big games against the habs.  Very rarely multi-point ones.  And that he’s cold right now.

    Does december always make the habs an 8th place team in april? feels like it

  82. BrianSkrudland says:

    What we talkin’ about, man? Practice?! We ain’t talkin’ ’bout the game. We talkin’ ’bout practice, man. Practice. Not the game, man. Practice, man.

  83. pmaraw says:

    Timo will NOT be pleased.

  84. The Cat says:

    I remember a couple of years ago when the Islanders were sure to miss the playoffs and were starting to mail it in, Ted Nolan gave them a bag skate everyday if necessary if he saw less than a 100% effort.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  85. SmartDog says:


    OMG, some of those DownGoesBrown lettes to Santa are funny!

    If you haven’t seen it, here are 3 great ones….

    Dear Santa,

    For Christmas, please bring me an expensive
    high-definition big screen television. Please also leave the receipt,
    since I’ll be immediately taking it back to the store to exchange it
    straight up for a broken VCR.

    All my best,
    Mike Milbury



    Dear Santa,

    year please bring me one pair of dress socks, a ball of string, and one
    slice of plain whole wheat toast. I wouldn’t want to open anything more
    exciting than that at the team Christmas party, since I might
    accidentally show some genuine emotion and then coach Snorey
    McPaint’n’Dry will send me back to the pressbox.

    Your pal,
    P.K. Subban


    Dear Santa,

    Christmas this year, I’d like to ask for a [expletive deleted] toy
    train, a [expletive deleted] toboggan, and most important of all
    [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] peace on
    [expletive deleted] earth.

    Bruce [expletive deleted] Boudreau

    P.S. Time to grab your sack


  86. JohnBellyful says:

    Great minds think alike? (I am a bit more potty-mouthed.)

    This is what I posted last Friday. I see Brown’s letters are dated Dec. 21.

    Submitted by JohnBellyful on Fri, 12/17/2010 – 16:55.

    Dear Santa,
    I wrote to the adults in charge of television about some stuff they show on TV but they wouldn’t listen to me. I know I can count on you.
    You remember the Three Stooges, right? My Dad used to watch them all the time. Well, they’re back on TV and Dad says he remembers why he quit watching them. He really finds them annoying, and not even funny like they used to be.
    Sure, they look different and have different names – Don, Mike and PJ – but Dad says he’d know their act anywhere.
    My Dad lets me stay up Saturday nights so I can watch the game and when they come on, he leaves the room, or just stays in his chair and gets really mad. We’ve gone through two televisions already this season.
    Mom says you might bring us a new one this Christmas. That would be great, Santa, but could you give us a set that’s idiot-proof. I figure if that commishun can’t keep those Three Wise Guys – that’s what my Dad calls them – off television, maybe a new kind of TV could.
    P.S. Don’t forget batteries this year. I had to wait three days last time before Dad went to the store and got some so I could play with my new keyboard.

    Dear Santa,
    Listen, you fat &*!@%, don’t give me any &^*%^$# lip about not taking %&^#@ letters from *&+*^@ adults. I’m in ^&$@^ charge of 18 %$^@! kids and I’m $^%#@ sick of being their $%@!% babysitter. I deserve a &*(%%# present after watching them #!@^$ blow seven &@%^T# games straight. Either you $!@#@&$ bring me a 10-game winning streak or I’m gonna !^#@!*& head up to your friggin’ igloo and stuff a @%$!! North Pole $#%@!^&$#@!!@&&*$%%$! naughty %$&$#@^ mistletoe &^*%&&$#@! Crosby *^*&%$(#X for goodness sake!
    P.S. Merry Christmas.
    P.S.S And a Happy #!@&^%d New Year

  87. G-Man says:

    Habs lack of scoring biting them in the a$$. Markov being very missed right now. Right now, withot Markov, the Habs simply aren’t very good. Sure, they skate fast and try to keep pressure on the other team but in the end it’s about finishing plays. Right now, they suck at finishing.

    The secondary scoring is practically non-existent, too.

  88. rocketsglare says:

    The Habs will come out of their current slump, but this team does need to become more consistent in their

    line play and this starts with JM letting the set lines play together longer before knowing whether their is

    chemistry or not. I have suggested that JM keep his lines together for the duration of the roadie and then

    see what happens. I can’t see how you can develop consistency and in turn continuity in your lines if you

    are constantly changing them. This could be one reason that some of our forwards have underachieved and

    as a result, scoring production has dropped. Let’s see what happens when the set lines are allowed to play

    together for several weeks. If the team continues to struggle then it may be a case of having the wrong per-

    sonell in place to play JM’s system and that would require making roster changes.

    Go Habs Go!

  89. LA Loyalist says:



     When you don’t have any talent you have to work twice as hard as everyone else.


    When you don’t have enough talent you have to work harder than everyone else. 

    When you have talent you still have to work at least as hard as everyone else.

    What is the common element here: HARD WORK – and that’s coaching. Whatever Count Chocula is doing (and no one is sure) it is not working.

    Look at what happened to Washington, with far more talent than us, when they didn’t work hard enough.

    It’s starting to look like JM is not working hard enough.


  90. Hobie Hansen says:

    Not only do the Habs need another defenseman to help the club now but the only guys we have under contract for next season is Subban, Spacek, Gill and Gorges, plus some spare parts…yikes.


    Hopefully they make a real push for a couple guys at the deadline that they can hopefully convince to sign contracts.


    Bieksa, Pitkanen, Phillips and Wisniewski are about the only UFAs as of next season that aren’t super overpriced, over the hill or just plain bad…


  91. sims says:

    gill and gorges are ufa and rfa respectively.  not under contract

  92. mike g says:

    Where to start?….

    Let’s begin at the root of where this downfall started. Remember that game in Detroit?

    The one where we were killing off a bunch of penalties is the 1st period, Price was playing like he was all year making crazy saves, and we were about to steal a period from an awsome team in their own building. But then, Lidstrom scores with less that 2 seconds remaining to tie it up and deflate our tires. It was game over after that, there was no chance we were gonna win that one. I remember coming on this site and telling you guys just how much a goal like that, mixed in with that whole unique situation, could kill a teams confidence and derail us.

    A couple of weeks later, and here we are in full downhill mode.

    Watching the games since that night on, haved proved my words to be correct. We’ve had some alright games, like the one against Philly, where were able to climb back into the game, but end up falling short in the end. A little flash here and there of the team we saw early on, and then back to normal domination.

    Last night, and the Colorado loss, proved many things. We played 2 good teams, lost both games, and on both occasions those teams failed to bring their A game. That’s something to get worried about. When you can’t take advantage of those opportunities, you cannot be considered a threat. You must take full advantage of games given to you, the same way others do that to us. Toronto tried giving us a game 2 weeks ago, and we just didn’t wanna know anything about those 2 points.

    What I found even more alarming last night was how we weren’t able to adjust during the game. In the 2nd period, I was watching Dallas, then winning 3-0, continuously getting odd-man rushes, good scoring chances, and capitalising on 2 occasions. And if you watched their forwards closely, they’d all come back into their zone for breakouts in order to make short passes with the defenseman. Then, they’d gain speed in the neutral zone, and catch our forwards flat foot. What then happened was odd-man rush after odd-man rush for Dallas.

    And then I watched us. The only played I’d see in our zone when we tried to do breakouts was the centerman. I’d see Gomez or Pleks coming back for the passes, but Cammy, Patches, Gionta and all, they’d all be waiting at the Dallas blueline flat foot. Our wingers were never in-motion, never creating passing lanes for easier entry, and never using their speed to force the Dallas defenseman to move back.

    Result: Dallas killed us, and didn’t even need to break their heads doing it.

    Simple, simple hockey, that can be adjusted during the course of a game to change your plan of attack and try swing momentum your way. Why we never caught onto that, it just simply turned me off. I remember a 5 minute sequence where Dallas kept on intercepting our passes along the boards to our wingers waiting at the blueline, and turning the play back towards our zone. Our defenseman couldn’t change because of this quick transition, they ended up getting burned on many occasions and wasting much needed energy for the 3rd period.

    Once again, simple things like that made Dallas win the game.

    And I’ve been seeing this since that play in Detroit. It killed us, our confidence, and seems to have sent us into a downward spiral.

    Hockey’s a game that demands incredible psychological awareness, comfort and intelligence. And right now, our team seems to be moving anywhere and nowhere, with no purpose, and the players look like their playing the game just to play the game. If your mind is alright but your body isn’t, you can still get by. But it doesn’t work the other way around. Ask Rod Brindamour how he played for so long with busted knees and broken bones. His phyche was alright, he kept his mind in check and concentrated, and it allowed him to play to win.

    Our psychological aspect isn’t right, and these are the results.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  93. FormalWare says:

    Nice analysis, Mike.

    That Lidstrom goal stands out in my memory, as well, as the starting point of this slide–a slide for the team, as a whole, of course, but also for Josh Gorges, in particular. With 5 or 6 seconds left, watching him, I had myself convinced he knew how much time was left in the period, and was just going to rag the puck behind the net. Gassed as he was, I’m sure he could have kept that up for a few more seconds. But, as soon as I’d had that thought, I saw him try to Move the puck! “No! You don’t Need to clear the zone, Josh! Don’t try it! … ARRRRGH!”

    Now our team is where it is–and Gorges is playing his worst hockey in a couple of years.

  94. avatar_58 says:

    Isn’t the coach’s job to see this and point it out?

  95. DOAHABS says:

    Yea, were back to mediocrity,& CP back to normal. What has happened in the last two weeks.? Are we destined to forever scrambling for 8th.

     We are starting to sound like the Maple Leafs Doll ,wind it up till Christmas and then it heads for the basement.

    As far as PK goes. the Team needs to play as a team,& no one player should have been afforded the accolades that PK did get. He’s still a young NHL’er & has to learn. Montreal is so hungry for a star that they inevitably start touting any ray of sunshine as the new end all be all, franchise saver..Remember they did it with Price… The old days you had to prove yourself over time,& not just have a few great games & start reading your own press clippings about how wonderful you are.

     This team can play,but consistenly play is the problem,Excuses (imagined or real) just don’t cut it.

                                                                                              Go Habs Go

  96. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Thanks for the football link on a Montreal Canadiens hockey site.  Guess this explains why you know nothing about hockey eh Tony?

  97. joeybarrie says:

    Do you have some sort of argument to back up the simple point of ‘not working hard enough’?

    Can you come up with anything other than that? Coaching is making your players work hard. A little too simplistic to convince me. What happened to Washington??? They went on a losing streak and are still #2. 

    MORE PRACTICE… MORE PAIN, MORE WORK…. Definitely what this team needs during a road trip with a possible flu going around, with a bunch of over played and fatigued players. YUP, lets make them REALLY hurt. Thatll learn em…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  98. rocketsglare says:

    Isn’t hard work a trademark of JM’s system? Besides, you would think that professional pride alone would compel

    these players to always give their best, including playing hard from start to finish.

    Go Habs Go!

  99. LA Loyalist says:

    Well, your comment is the first I’ve heard of flu, which decimated us a few years ago and would absolutely be a legit excuse.

    Coaching is making your players work hard, and smart, and effectively. Look at an amateur tennis player vs a pro, the pro moves far less because they are in position. I don’t mean they should be skating all over the ice like nuts. The line juggling is just confusing them as to what they should be doing in different situations – a theory – but what other explanation other than they’re just over-paid millionaires and not competitive enough mentally? I don’t know the answer.

    My point is we don’t have sufficient talent to beat good teams regularly in playoff type hockey, and we play like crap against “lower” teams – that’s a lack of mental effort and preparedness, which is coaching. 

    Is the flu thing for sure or just a rumour? 


  100. rocketsglare says:

    ….. and perhaps the team is playing hard but is simply overmatched by a better team that night.

    Go Habs Go!

  101. newbrunswick troy says:

    Is it just me or does these next 5 games define the habs whole season….keep on the skid and they are fighting for a playoff spot….or they rebound and i guess it was just the december lul..

  102. HabFanSince72 says:

    Don’t know. The games that defined last season occurred in April and May.

  103. phillyhab says:

    Who was Subban paired with last year in the playoffs?  I forget.

  104. SeriousFan09 says:

    Saw a fair amount of time with Hamrlik.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  105. Izzy says:

    as per TSN……The leafs have signed free agent forward Lanny Jemima of the Belgian elite hockey system. As a proper and fitting tribute Leaf fans have been seen lining up by the hundreds at the younge st, quickie mart to purchase Belgian waffles. Store owner Ahmaad Singopan Mustafa Jones/Smith is quoted as saying,” I had to move the syrup to the back room at the request of Brian Burke”.

  106. SmartDog says:

    That’s a good combination (and a smart question) because Subban has the wheels and the Hamr can and should hang back.  It’s when Hamr decides he’s going to score goals that he gets into trouble.  Tough stay-at-home D, smart zone clearance, with a bit of a mean streak is where he is best.


  107. LA Loyalist says:

    exactly. thank you. if we can figure this out how come Count Choc-alot can’t? Just wondering…



    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  108. HabFab says:

    Hammer doesn’t want to pass the puck to PK. Watch…

  109. Mark C says:

    On a team lacking offensive production, why would you want to turn the most productive defensemen into a stay at home defender?

  110. shootdapuck says:

    On the recent topic of HNIC and the CBC did anyone receive a smarmy, self righteous reply not from David Masse but from CBCinput@toronto.cbc.ca?


    Re Milbury

    “Mike is employed by HNIC as an analyst, to provide his candid and opinionated views on the game. We know that viewers will not always agree with his analysis, and that some simply don’t like his blunt style, but I can assure you that Mike doesn’t engage in personal attacks.”



    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3”

  111. bwoar says:

    No time to panic.  A bit of shuffling on D might help:


    is worth trying.  Mixing up the young legs with the old guys.  Picard needs to watch a game from above to see why he has to go back to simple hockey.

    I know a lot of people are falling in the “it’s December again, here we go in the tank” trap.  But it’s how we deal with this adversity that will define the team.  If they pull it out (and I think they will) we’ll take a step forward.

    I would wait until May to start tearing out hair.

  112. Thomas says:

    Has anyone seen the 24/7 show on HBO about the Pens & Caps??

    The Pens are my new second favourite team, what a show!  I’ve never been a huge fan of Martin, but think he’s been doing alright, but after seeing this show, just really makes me wish we had a coach more like Bylsma, the charisma he shows, and the respect he gets from his players is amazing.  Also makes Boudreau look like a putz as well.

    I wonder what Cunneyworth is like in the dressing room…I just think these guys would respond so much better with a coach they can relate too, someone who has some character.  

  113. Mikey_39 says:

    He literally said that if he saw Lapierre on the street he would punch him.  How is that not a personal attack?

  114. HabFanSince72 says:

    And he called Kovalev a “dog”.

    However the main problem is that Milbury has a demonstrated lack of hockey understanding – even for an ex-Bruin.



  115. SPATS says:

    another accidental repost! sorry!

  116. avatar_58 says:

    You’d take Souray over Kaberle?

  117. SPATS says:

    And I thought it was me…. see below, I take back my apologies

  118. SPATS says:

    repost by accident!

  119. volcano62 says:

    Whats wrong with Souray anyway? He broke records here in Montreal.

  120. volcano62 says:

    Saw the show. never realised how much Boudreau swears lol We need something like this for the Habs!

  121. SPATS says:

    Agree 100%. I’m a big JM believer but lately the line juggling is making me cringe. Me thinks Muller would be Bylsma like (and probably is) Too bad he’ll never be head coach here. We’ll watch him lead some other team to a cup and can only wonder what if we didn’t let the french media decide what’s best?  


  122. HabFanSince72 says:

    What are the options defensively?

    1. Canucks need to trade one defender when Salo comes back. Their problem is all of them are good (except Keith Ballard who we don’t want), so the Canucks will be reluctant to make a trade. Lokos like Bieksa and Erhoff are the liekliest candidates. I’d take either one.

    2. Sheldon Souray. Playing again. He’d certainly have a spot on the PP.

    3. Yannick Webber. Too green?

    4. Kaberle. No thanks. He’s no better than Spacek this year.

    5. Bryan McCabe. You’re joking right?

    6. Someone else?

  123. HabFanSince72 says:

    What are the options defensively?

    1. Canucks need to trade one defender when Salo comes back. Their problem is all of them are good (except Keith Ballard who we don’t want), so the Canucks will be reluctant to make a trade. Lokos like Bieksa and Erhoff are the likeliest candidates. I’d take either one.

    2. Sheldon Souray. Playing again. He’d certainly have a spot on the PP.

    3. Yannick Webber. Too green?

    4. Kaberle. No thanks. He’s no better than Spacek this year.

    5. Bryan McCabe. You’re joking right?

    6. Someone else?

  124. HabFanSince72 says:

    What are the options defensively?

    1. Canucks need to trade one defender when Salo comes back. Their problem is all of them are good (except Keith Ballard who we don’t want), so the Canucks will be reluctant to make a trade. Lokos like Bieksa and Erhoff are the liekliest candidates. I’d take either one.

    2. Sheldon Souray. Playing again. He’d certainly have a spot on the PP.

    3. Yannick Webber. Too green?

    4. Kaberle. No thanks. He’s no better than Spacek this year.

    5. Bryan McCabe. You’re joking right?

    6. Someone else?

  125. HabFanSince72 says:

    What are the options defensively?

    1. Canucks need to trade one defender when Salo comes back. Their problem is all of them are good (except Keith Ballard who we don’t want), so the Canucks will be reluctant to make a trade. Lokos like Bieksa and Erhoff are the likeliest candidates. I’d take either one.

    2. Sheldon Souray. Playing again. He’d certainly have a spot on the PP.

    3. Yannick Webber. Too green?

    4. Kaberle. No thanks. He’s no better than Spacek this year.

    5. Bryan McCabe. You’re joking right?

    6. Someone else?

  126. Hobie Hansen says:

    Defenseman Joni Pitkanen from the Hurricanes is an UFA next season. 6’3”, 215lbs. on pace for close to 50pts this season and has had some good seasons in the past. He’d be an improvement over the departing Hamrlik for sure.


    Bieksa would look nice in a Canadiens uniform for sure, especially since we don’t have anyone except the referee to protect our star players. Bieksa isn’t a heavyweight but could definitely add some toughness while playing good defense.   




  127. Bugs says:

    Ok, listen: things aren’t going all roses with the club right now; no sense denyin it. But tis the season, you know? Now ain’t the time to get all doom’n’gloomy.

    Proposed the waffle story earlier to get y’all smilin again but I still sense some discontent so I’ma pull out the stops now and offer some Cyndi Lauper action. Almost 60-friggin-yrs-old and still kickin monumental azz. If this doesn’t get you boppin and forgettin your troubles, then you don’t deserve to LIVE, let alone enjoy the finer things in life.

    I’ll take ya til you’re all spun up, turn you over, baby, til it’s never enough.

    I’ll take ya til you’re all spun up and in love, into the nightlife.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  128. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yikes! WHat the hell happened here?

  129. derfab says:

    I think that any solid d-man could help us at this point but I’d rather see us land a big, mean forward who can skate, fight and stand in the slot. The 2 real mvp’s of last years playoffs were Hartnell and Byfuglien.

    Though it is by no means exclusive to our club, Milbury has a real point about the Hab’s lack of fortitude. Claude Lemieux always embarrased me and too many players, without even having the same kind of skill, seem to have taken up his approach to the game.

  130. HabFanSince72 says:

    More likely to break bones (his own) these days.

  131. SmartDog says:

    I think Weber is a good addition.  

    Our problem is that Hamrlik and Spacek don’t have the legs for the long run AND to cover for rookies.  Bad combo.  We do need someone 25-30ish with wheels and some offensive upside. 

    The idea of Souray has nostalgia for me… I think because of the booming shot AND his putting his mits in everyone’s face…. but we know where that ends up – injury city.  Sadly no.


  132. HabFanSince72 says:

    Kaberle has one goal and is  -1. More importantly he is another aging d-man who has seen better days.

    Not that I want Souray either, but he could be very cheap.

  133. HabFanSince72 says:

    I dare say Briere, Richards, Giroux and Pronger were more important than Hartnell. I might even put Ville Leino and Simon Gagné and maybe all their other D up there ahead of sideshow bob.



  134. HabFanSince72 says:

    To each his own I guess.

  135. Hobie Hansen says:

    Habs definitely need some backbone. It was very sad to see Cammalleri and Subban having to fight lately.  


    Yes there are gutless people out there who believe that we should skate away and let the other teams get sucked into taking penalties against us but those people should probably be watching another sport. This is hockey.


    Fighting is a part of this game, like it or not. People who think a good fight doesn’t swing the momentum in a team’s favor are nuts.


    It would be nice to have a tough guy that can take a regular shift but if there’s none available the Habs should bring in a guy to play 5mins a game. It’s better than Subban or Cammalleri getting hurt or thrown off their game.


  136. RetroMikey says:

    This team cannot compete as a East Conference finalist as they had a lucky cinderealla run last year.

    The $5 million dollar man in Plekanec is not performing offensively. we are not paying him to be a defensive forward.  Cammallerri is back to the old Cammalleri of old when he played in Calgary and in LA, up and down seasons.  Gomez is just floating as he always does.  Pouliot, still a work in progess.  AK another floater and disappointment.  Hey what about Gionta?  Can’t expect much from a second line forward as he would be a third line forward in any other NHL team.

    As for the defense, need I say more?  We have more problems in this postion than our offense.

    Price can do so much and I hate to see the kid lose his confidence down the stretch.

    So, what do we do?  Sit back and relax and be positive?

    I have no answers but when Boone writes his blog, we should listen.

    By the way, no surprise in my part the team is on a losing skid.  There are better teams we are playing against and in order to get better, you have to trade. 

    I would not be surprised if we ended up in 9th in the Eastern COnference after the New Year.






    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  137. BC HAB says:

    I think the problem with the habs right now is Martin. He screwed up the chemistry of this team big time with his stupid line juggling. You should never mess with successful lines. I would like to see Pleks, Cammy, and AK back together, PHD back together, and Max Pac, Gionta, Gomez together.  Every one of these lines have had success this season, and Martin messed with them.

    This team was awsome for around the first dozen games or so. The only problem was finding someone to play on the Gomez/Gionta line. Now we have problems everywhere. The only descent line right now is the Gomez line. I wonder how long before Martin messes with it.

    In my opinion Martin eff’d up AK’s strong start. Is it any coincidence that his play went down south right around the time Martin started tinkering.

    We have serious problems folks. At one point yesterday I even felt like throwing eggos at my tv.

  138. smiler2729 says:

    Dude, you’re a downer, better call a help line if you see the world the way you do. I see a good team in a slump… Merry Christmas!

  139. smiler2729 says:

    People need to quit whining and looking for instant fixes when your team’s in a slump. Jacques Martin’s not getting fired (having survived Dallas unlike the last coach… poor Carbo), Kris Letang or Duncan Keith are not getting traded here for AK46 and believe it or not, this team will win a game again and the sun will rise again.

    They are playing like doo-doo though, not fun to watch.

    On the other hand, this waffle thing in Toronto is HILARIOUS! Alas, some poor schmuck got himself barred from the ACC for the latest incident, now isn’t that a blessing in disguise?? Imagine having to pay $250 and watch the Laffs do what they do! WAFFLE NATION UNITE! LOL!

  140. A. Berke says:

    This from Cam Cole (today’s Vancouver Sun) (I thought it was funny but telling):

    “C/O NORTH POLE: From the clever Down Goes Brown hockey blog, now running occasionally in the National Post, comes this spoof taken from a selection of NHL Christmas letters to Santa Claus …

    Dear Santa, This year please bring me one pair of dress socks, a ball of string, and one slice of plain whole wheat toast. I wouldn’t want to open anything more exciting than that at the team Christmas party, since I might accidentally show some genuine emotion and then coach Snorey McPaint’n’Dry will send me back to the press box.

    Your pal, P. K. Subban

    HOLD IT!: Before you fire off that vitriolic e-mail, Hab Fan, yes, we know Subban made two major blunders in the Canadiens’ loss to Edmonton. It was all over the news. So that completely justified Jacques Martin sitting him in the press box for three games. I’m guessing Scotty Bowman could have got the point across in a two-minute conversation.”

    Ali B.

  141. punkster says:

    Hey. Wouldn’t be a loss without an RM downer post.


  142. A. Berke says:

    Notwithstanding the teams’ recent disheartening results, I wish to everyone a very Happy Holidays and and Prosperous New Year.

    Ali B.

  143. smiler2729 says:

    Yeah, one of those people that expect the Habs to go 82-0-0 winning very game 5-0 with 3 PPGs and a SHG… and then every Hab is elected to the All-Star Game and they sweep the Awards in June. Then somehow, they manage to deal for the 1st overall pick every draft (AK46 to the Waffles for their next 3 first rounders, Burkie will do it!) and sign the best available UFAs on July 1.

    A world where Brigitte Bardot never grew old and unpopped kernels don’t wedge into your gums…


  144. smiler2729 says:

    My second favourite team is whoever’s playing the Laffs.

  145. Price_Is_Right says:

    Happy Holidays everyone, remember every team goes through Highs and Lows every year! That’s hockey!




    Good things come to those who wait…But only what’s left by those who hustle!

  146. Thomas says:

    haha, and loved that one closeup of Boudreau during an interview with ketchup all over his face, what a man!

    Muller indeed would be interesting, he’s been learning the ropes under Martin and Gainey, would be good to see what he would do for this team…Cunneyworth was a grinder, so he would add some good grit, and spirit to the locker-room.  All the interviews with these guys when they’re playing good are hilarious, always making fun of each other, havin a good time, JM must be such a downer…They are professionals though so they should be able to play through it…

  147. Thomas says:

    Ya, I hear that, its funny how much I hate the leafs.  I hate it when they win, and when the win against us its brutal, all my buddies who are leaf fans never stop calling or texting, I just have to turn my phone off, its pathetic really…

  148. RetroMikey says:

    Merry Christmas to you punkster!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  149. Hobie Hansen says:

    Dear Santa,


    At one time my hockey team had at least 2 or 3 guys on it that would stick up for our skilled players and if a game turned rough could actually do something about it. Now we have nobody that fits that description and are laughed at around the league and on television.


    Here’s a list of previous Habs that would take a bullet for a team mate. Maybe they have sons, relatives or you could magically turn back father time on some of them? 


    Chris Nilan

    Chris Chelios

    Shayne Corson

    John Kordic

    Todd Ewen

    Lyle Odelein

    Mario Roberge

    Turner Stevenson

    Donald Brashear

    Chris Murray

    Stephane Quintal

    Dave Manson

    Scott Thornton

    Mick Vukota

    Sheldon Souray

    Jim Cummings

    Gino Odjick

    Reid Simpson

    Darren Langdon

    Mike Komisarek

    Georges Laraque


    Merry Christmas!!!

  150. Danno says:

    The team is awful. But that waffle was unlawful. So instead, toss a falafel.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  151. Chorske says:

    1. Not sure I like either option.

    2. OMG, been there, done that.

    3. No, he’s fine. He just needs to play.

    4. Kaberle is great. But Burke will want too much in return, and no GM with any sense will make that deal. TO will lose Kaberle for nothing in July, because in Toronto it is better to appear to be managing aggressively (and then bitch that the other GMs aren’t playing fair) rather than to actually manage effectively.

    5. is he even still playing

    6. I still think our biggest need is a scoring winger. Eller needs to play 3rd line minutes as a center, and Moen is not a top six guy. I don’t feel the panic on D that other posters seem to be feeling.

  152. shiram says:

    Oh yea, bring back BGL, he sure was alot of help!!

  153. Chorske says:

    Like, what, ten years ago? Since then he has been a distraction. And he’s been injured. And he totally chaps his teammates’ asses.

    Nooooo thank you.

  154. Price_Is_Right says:

    Hey BC…I thought you were on to something, and NOW I’M CONVINCED! Check THIS OUT! DAMN!




    Good things come to those who wait…But only what’s left by those who hustle!

  155. Price_Is_Right says:

    Just came across this…OMG! IT MAKES SENSE THOUGH!





    Good things come to those who wait…But only what’s left by those who hustle!

  156. Chuck says:

    Banned for throwing waffles? If I was caught, I’d claim that it was a rite of my religion. Then watch them try to toss you out. 😉

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  157. Chuck says:

    Lemme guess… you’d tell the guy to go ahead and jump.

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  158. olematelot says:

    There’s medication for your problem

  159. Chorske says:

    Holy crap. Is there a single guy on that list I would want back??

    Maybe. A young Chelios, certainly, without all the effing management’s wives (allegedly) and drinking (demonstrably). Maybe a young Corson… maybe. But the rest? Pff. It’s actually kind of insulting that you listed Chelios among those guys. I mean… Chelios = Gino Odjick? Really?

    And maybe you slept through the whole BGL experiment, but that was possibly the worst FA signing in recent Habs history. A total GONG SHOW.

  160. Chorske says:

    I had a place in my heart for Cyndi until she jumped the shark on Apprentice.

  161. coachdoug says:

    Two corrections:

    1. Remove BGL…see code for details

    2. “Post-Lucic fight” Komi is a girl scout (No offense to girl scouts everywhere)…Pre-fight guy seemed pretty tough

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  162. Chorske says:

    Or sell it in a raffle.

  163. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yes – truculence is doing wonders for the Laffs.


  164. Danno says:

    Proof positive the capitalist system meets every human need.

    And here’s a nice pair… Just add syrup.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  165. coachdoug says:

    Habs are in a slump…Caps are coming out of a slump…Slump happens…they just have to get out of it…

    Some of you HIOesr need to watch that the wheels of the bandwagon don’t run you over during your current fall…

    This is still the best team the Habs have iced for a long while…we have Cap space and money…trade deadline is coming…anything can happen in the post-season…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  166. SeriousFan09 says:

    To hell with that lot, give me Ferguson and Robinson.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  167. Chuck says:

    I once beat up Reid Simpson in a bar fight.

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  168. HabFanSince72 says:

    Let’s change the subject for a moment.

    Does Pierre McGuire really need to call every player by a different name than their usual one?
    Timmy Thomas. Max Lapierre. Scotty Gomez. etc …

    You’re not their buddy, dude.


  169. Bugs says:

    Not her fault; she got screwed by Holly. She had the best room!

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  170. Storm Man says:

    You must be a old man if you watched Ferguson play and in your late 30’s early 40’s to have watched Robinson.

  171. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you thank you thank you.

    This is, regretably, not a new problem. I remember a game in Buffalo when Doug Gilmour was playing for us and someone ran Theodore – and it was Dougie who had to go after the guy. It was embarassing then, and it’s embarassing now.

    And the idiot below who wouldn’t want Chelios back? Or Chris Nilan? Nilan could play and no one messed with our finesse players. 

    A young Laraque, young Shayne Corson and a young Souray were fine. If we had those three now we’d be on freaking fire.

    Dave Manson hit harder than any of the girls we have playing defence now (aside from PK who won me forever with that hit the other night). And Rick Green was not a fighter to my recollection but g*d he could hit.

    No one is saying we have to get a thug who can’t play, but JM and PG need to understand this isn’t the Danish Open-Faced Sandwich League (especially come next spring) and if they don’t get their heads around it and address our needs it’s going to be a long, long winter.

    I think it’s important to not forget what Philly did to us last spring — and how we’ve done almost NOTHING to address it.

    Je me souvien is right.




  172. LA Loyalist says:

    It’s not the years, it’s the mileage :)


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  173. LA Loyalist says:

    I’ve had falafels in Toronto that could injure you if thrown – and that’s with a helmut :)

  174. HabFanSince72 says:

    Je me souvien is right.

    Not quite.

  175. SeriousFan09 says:

    I know them only by reputation actually, but my family has strong memories of Robinson and Ferguson. I say if we want father time to bring in the muscle, might as well select the all-timers.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  176. shiram says:

    Thats so funny, but it really should not be

  177. Storm Man says:

    So hfs72 should we take it as you’re McGuire’s buddy as you call him dude?

  178. LA Loyalist says:

    Sorry. Good isn’t good enough. Good is good enough in Dallas, in Atlanta, in Phoenix. This is Montreal. We have a higher standard, supposedly.

    It’s very, very probable that, like last year and recent years, teams will make or not make the playoffs based on one or two points.

    If we barf-bag our way through this road trip and come back 2 and 5 – or worse – (and we’d have to win 2 out of 5 now to do that) we could well be watching the playoffs on TV. We don’t have the point cushion Washington had and we don’t have the firepower they have to make up points.

    And if we armchair geniuses think we can trade Halak at the deadline for a power fwd and be laughing for the playoffs we’re crazy. Oh crap, we already traded Halak. Who do you think we can trade? We’re not deep anywhere except we’ve got about a dozen 3rd and 4th line players. Big demand for those.

    Not good enough, gentlemen and ladies. And Price will be mentally exhausted by then anyway. 

    This road trip was an opportunity to make a statement. Unfortunately that statement is “we quit”.

    Nice work JM and PG.

  179. keepthefaith says:

    I recall you saying last year you wished we would miss the playoffs. Then when we went on our run you were back on board. You are a typical bandwagon jumper. Just cheer for Detroit or something. No one will miss you.

  180. Born in a Bad Year says:

    The last year he was here he was dead last in the NHL among defencemen for plus-minus.  Like MAB would have been with a full season.

  181. Storm Man says:

    My Grandfather and Father talk about watching Ferguson and Robinson all the time when Im in town watching a game at the Bell. But Robinson seldom fought and Ferguson was just not a fighter. So from who I have seen live and could add to this team if one of them was still playing it would be Nilan as he would fight anybody… And maybe Kordic he was a beast.

  182. ds says:

    Nothing to worry about every team goes through slumps.  Washington, Boston are slumping, NJ might eventually find their game it’s just a fact of hockey.  We need to remember this is the same team that shut out Philadelphia & Vancouver.  They beat LA, Pittsburgh and SJ.  It’s a solid team everyone has their ups and downs.


    The biggest positive out of this slump is Gomez-Gionta-Pac have developed some chemistry.  MTL seems to have found that missing top 6 forward, and have an excellent top line of Plek-Cam-AK. 

    The only missing link on this team is a hard hitting forward who can skate. (No Laraques).

  183. A. Berke says:

    Yes indeed it makes a lot of sense.

    IMHO, all these “preferential” treatments that JM is bestowing on some players is causing (or will definitely cause sooner than later) breaking up of the team chemistry and division in the room. Players are not stupid, even a two year old can see a double standard of treatment especially if he/she is at the receiving end of the deal.

    How very unfortunate that the team as well as the rest of us are suffering the consequences one way or another.

    Ali B.

  184. VancouverHab says:

    I’m old enough (just) to have watched Freguson & Robinson both. Robinson rarely fought because he rarely had to — almost nobody wanted to have to fight him so they stayed cool.

    Ferguson was, imho, the best enforcer, full stop.

  185. VancouverHab says:

    Why not Shayne Corson? Or Odelein on our defense?

    And I always had a good thought for John Kordic — if he had stayed free of drugs he would be (and this is a big deal for me to say) a definite upgrade on Travis Moen.


  186. A. Berke says:

    and Ferguson was just not a fighter.

    I beg to differ. I’ve seen him play (I didn’t miss any Habs games then either) and he did fight whenever it was necessary, Yes he wouldn’t go after other team’s players out of the blue but boy, was he the fighter (more like boxer) and I don’t think he lost a single fight. And because of his prowess the rest of Les Boys were left alone.

    Ali B.

  187. Storm Man says:

    I guess my point is both players had alot of skill. Ferguson had 303 pts in 500 games back when it was a 6 team league that is one very solid hockey player. I don;t have alot of time to talk about how great Robinson was but you know as you watched him. I don’t like the tag enforcer when it comes to Freguson as he was much more.

  188. Storm Man says:

    Ferguson was a very solid player with 303 pts in 500 games when the NHL had 6 teams. Yes the man could kick someone ass on the ice but I don’t look at him as just a fighter or goon the man had some good skills. 

  189. LA Loyalist says:

    This road trip was an opportunity to make a statement. Unfortunately that statement is “we quit”, or at a minimum,

    “we’re on vacation until January – but by then it may be too late.”


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.

  190. notbigbird says:

    The best? John Ferguson.

  191. shiram says:

    There is still 5 games to be played on the road trip.

    They should make a phone hotline for depressed/whiny Habs “fan”.

  192. Storm Man says:

    LA when are you going on vacation??? hurry up and book before it is too late.

  193. Timo says:

    I don’t know if this is true or not, but I can definitely buy into that. Fits well with my “Martin is the root of all evil” theory.

  194. Timo says:

    I would remove Laraque from the list of players who would stick up for a teammate. You know… the code.

  195. notbigbird says:

    That’s the point though. Not just a fighter but a very good one. He’s exactly the kind of guy this team could use.

  196. Timo says:

    Could be another statement – we hate playing for Martin.

  197. Timo says:

    Be nice, Stormy. Did you get me the Heritage Classic tickets? :)

  198. SeriousFan09 says:

    KHL Report:

    G Karri Ramo recorded his 6th shutout of the season and his 20th win with for Avangard Omsk over Amur Khabarvorsk in a 4-0 win, Ramo has a 1.87 GAA and a .929 save percentage on his season and only has back-to-back losses 2x this year, his record is at 20-6-2.

    D Alexei Yemelin with no points, but he is still enjoying his best career season in the KHL in points with 7G, 9A in 34GP with +7 and 89 PIMs total as Ak Bars Kazan enjoyed a win over Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  199. notbigbird says:

    Fergie came along when we had the same concerns as now — small team getting pushed around. He established himself and made a huge difference. Just one man turned it around, and we were soon winning cups again.

  200. shiram says:

    I look forward to a possible duo of Karey’s in goals next year!

  201. Mattyleg says:

    Yes he is! Yes he is!

    He has the collages he made for each and every one of them, with ‘BFF’ written in glittery bubble-letters.

    Look: Allie Kovalev, Jar-Jar Halak, Marts Havlat, and Stevie Stamkos.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  202. Mark C says:

    Ali B, these double standards happen all on teams. I follow Boston sports teams and the Red Sox and Patriots have two of the best manager/head coach in their respective sports and both these man show preferential treatment to certain players. This isn’t unique to JM, and I have a real hard time buying that it is creating a split in the room. And if it has then a split, a lot of the blame is on the players and their leadership for letting the situation come to that.

  203. Mattyleg says:

    God yeah.

    It’ll make chanting so much easier…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  204. Storm Man says:

    I have 6… If my GF and her 2 friends bail as they won’t go if it is -15 or below… Im working on a guy who has tickets he could be out of town that weekend so I will get his. I will keep you posted.

  205. Everlasting1 says:

    No doubt JM’s disruptive ways are creating animosity within the club..the scolding, unfair escapegoating, the erratic line changes..won’t bode well, especially for him. You can’t fire the whole team. 



    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  206. Everlasting1 says:

    Seriously, how much heart does one need in baseball?



    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  207. Storm Man says:

    This team does not need just a fighter they need what Ferguson would bring to the table. Mess with me I will kick your head in and if you don’t I will score a few goals. Montreal has never had a player like that in the past 30 years and safe to say never will at this point. Unless you know a good doctor that can clone Ferguson’s DNA. So we can have that player in 19 years. 

  208. Timo says:

    Cool, man, I appreciate it. Remember, I need 2 though. (I don’t ask for much)


  209. Mark C says:

    What does “heart” have to do with anything?

  210. Chorske says:

    Hey, I said I’d take a young Corson.

    I am not sure Odelein would really be an improvement. But of the rest on that list, he’s the one I’d consider including.

  211. Everlasting1 says:

    In baseball..nothing.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  212. Storm Man says:

    I know you need two… 200 a ticket at face value… His tickets are in sec T.

  213. Mark C says:

    Ok, but what was your point, was there one?

    I never mentioned heart, the poster I was responding to didn’t mention it.

  214. Nahlsy says:

    CLEARLY the Leafs players, management and ownership are throwing a tantrum about these waffles. Starting with Colby Armstrong’s rant and continuing to the recent ban.

    Do they really think that teams around the league won’t be bringing waffles to Leaf games now?

    Someone needs to find access to one of those toasters that toast the team logos onto bread and put an Eggo in it, take a picture for me and spread it around.

    Long live the Toronto Waffle Leafs

  215. Everlasting1 says:

    Was just saying. There’s team sport, then there’s a pasttime. One is taken seriously lol



    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  216. keepthefaith says:

    Remember when everybody here was pissed about Cedric Dejardins?

  217. Storm Man says:

    I recall a rabbit and a few of his cartoon buds, Im not sure who you mean as everybody.

  218. Chuck says:

    The Leafs should be  lucky that the fans are throwing something light, like waffles. This time of year they could just as easily get a fruitcake upside the head.

    In lieu of waffles being tossed when the Leafs are on the road, at the very least they’ll get a “We want waf-fles!” chant.  :)

    The 2010 Montreal Canadians Christmas Card

  219. Danno says:

    Fan banned from ACC for waffle throwing at Leafs game

    This is an outrage! How DARE they!

    I’ll give you my waffle when you take it from my cold dead hands

    If waffles are outlawed only outlaws will have waffles.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  220. Bugs says:

    You mean the Cedrick who was called up to the NHL in order to do the job Ramo couldn’t do? THAT Cedrick?

    Yeah, uhh, I bet he’d rather be in the KHL. Joke sure is on him.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  221. J_P says:

    Listen, i cant stand jacques Martin, but there is no way to substantiate this claim.

    People are indeed giving martin more credit than he deserves, seeing as all the wins hes racked up as a habs coach revolved around ‘lights-out’ goaltending.  Without superstar goaltending, this team would have never beaten washington and pittsburgh, and i would barely be a .500 hockey club this year.  Theres clearly coaching issues because the habs immediately give up on games they have fallen behind in this season.  THe PK benching was clearly a failed experiment because PK is NOt the same player he was prior to the benching.

    Once the habs get rid of martin, they will take the next step.  The type of talent on this team is not ideal to be paired with a coach like Martin. 

    All that being said, I dont believe a word in that article about Martin not making decisions and such, I just think Martin is a terrible coach to begin with.

  222. SeriousFan09 says:

    You mean the Cedrick who was called up to the NHL to sub in for Mike Smith who is currently injured and is backing up Dan Ellis? THAT Cedrick?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  223. JD_ says:

    From another piece on the website written prior to the Dallas game, “If rumors are correct, P.K. Subban will be benched again by Coach Jacques Martin for the game tonight against the Dallas Stars. The lack of patience with young players that we’ve seen from Martin is showing it’s ugly head once again.”

    Awesome. Straight out of the Jack Todd School of Hack: Buy a rumour, draw a conclusion, then slam someone.

    It took me about five seconds to locate this hack-worthy shite on the website. With that in mind, why would anyone lend any credence to some other breathless piece rife with more supposition, innuendo, and unnamed sources than one sees in yer average edition of News of the World?

    Cause it jibes with their predisposed notions regardin’ JM?

    When read, inflammatory stuff like this begs for a higher intellectual standard to be applied.


  224. VancouverHab says:

    Actually, we’re saying the same thing, just in a different way. I like Ferguson as an enforcer because he could really play the game and he enforced to the max.

    (He trained his hands by a daily regimen of punching concrete….)

  225. JohnBellyful says:

    Tom Pyatt should be on the list. Would you want to get hit by a man with hands of stone?

  226. Chris F says:

    I’m not sure about these comments about players quitting. What I see is a lack of talent on the back end. It affects the entire flow of the game. Markov has left a huge hole, it’s not pretty.

    Bring up Desharnais, he’s killing it in the AHL, I love Pyatt’s work ethic but we need offense. Give the kid a chance to play with some skill. He will perform. He’s small, but really, so is half of our team.

    Team needs a shot in the arm.

  227. LA Loyalist says:

    it’s the thin edge of the wedge. Today Waffles, tomorrow butter and maple syrup. 


    Be afraid, be vigilant.

  228. LA Loyalist says:

    Maybe someone will bring a box of Count Chocula into The Room but no one will confess.

  229. SmartDog says:

    Waffles fly farther.  Pancakes would be good too. 


  230. RJB says:

    Ladies and gents, anybody know how i can watch 24/7 live tonight via my computer?

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  231. Danno says:

    Waffles? Considering the Leafs performance, cupcakes would have been more appropriate.

    So says the Globe and Mail’s Jeff Blair.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  232. Bugs says:

    Not fixed; you forgot “doing the job Ramo couldn’t do.”

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  233. Danno says:

    Ask and you shall receive. Here it is.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  234. Mr. Biter says:

    Obviously I am older than some of the above posters and watched Ferguson play his entire career and he was the toughest, meanist most feared dude who played during his career who took no prisoners and asked for nor gave no quarter. Just the type of player we need now. When he stepped on the ice you knew something was going to happen espically if someone had taken “liberties” to any of the Habs skilled players revenge was forth coming. He was brought up to add “protection” and could score but with over 1200 minutes in penalties  and no fear of anyone was the TOUGHEST player during his career. like Nilan played his first game vs. the Bruins and was in his first fight in (vs. Ted Green no slouch himself) 12 seconds into his first shift (also scored 2 goals that game). Nilan had what 2 or 3 5 minute fighting majors, 2 or 3 10 minute misconducts and of course the game misconduct in his first game (watch it on youtube lots of fun). Nilan knew what his job was (and could also score) and also did it well. And Robinson well after he came out of the dressing room to lay the smackdown on Dave Schultz (which was the beginning of the end of the Flyers reign of Terror) no one wanted anything to do with him.

    BTW why did Ferguson retire in 1971? If any one knows please respond.

    Remember “it’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog”

  235. VancouverHab says:


    Here’s the only line that you need to know from the website:

    “…it would appear that Jacques Martin seems to use psychological tactics in an attempt to get what he wants from players.”

    NO! Jacques Martin, a coach, seems to use psychological tactics! To get what he wants from his players!!! 

    What crap that article is. Did Brian Burke write it?

  236. RJB says:

    Thank you, and this is a live stream for tonights second episode? I didn’t know NHL was showing them live online!

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
    – Bilbo Baggins

  237. Danno says:

    Not sure about that. I think it shows the episodes after they air on TV. All I could find is episode one.

    Anyone out there know?


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  238. Habnofear says:

    Ted Harris………

  239. Nahlsy says:

    Or turnovers

  240. Nahlsy says:

    I’m fuzzy on the exact agreement, but I’m pretty sure that KHL players and NHL players can’t just jump from league to league at will. Once you sign a contract with one, they’re supposed to be stuck with that contract and unable to jump to the other until their contract has been completed. (The Radulov fiasco has forced them to make efforts to better ensure that, but I’m not sure about the extent those efforts have gone so far.)

    At any rate, those players would be free agents (RFA/UFA I am unsure of) since they wouldn’t be able to play in the KHL with a valid NHL contract as far as I am aware. That would make them not overly worth considering as Habs wouldn’t it?

    Granted I haven’t followed every dotted I or crossed T in the legal mumbo jumbo, just going by what my interpretation of the rules were.


  241. habsfansince91 says:

    Sitting on the bench? I’m sure many people are capable of doing that job.

  242. Habnofear says:

    I do believe Pierre Bouchard  was not only the first Hab but the first NHL er to beat down Shultz….

  243. Habnofear says:

    Ratis  Ivanus (spelling)?

  244. LA Loyalist says:

    oh that’s a good one!

  245. Keith says:

    Mr. Biter,

    From what I read in Fergie’s autobiography, he just had enough and wanted to do something else.The game had taken a heavy toll on him, he wanted to retire a year earlier I think actually. I met him back in 1992 when his son JFJ played for the Fredericton Canadiens. He signed my book, we chatted a little, he was a very nice man and I was saddened by his passing. I barely remembered when he played as I was only 7 years old when he retired, but I do remember that 1971 finals against Chicago. What a series! That began my love affair with the Habs.

  246. LA Loyalist says:

    you are on a roll today. A kaiser roll, but a roll nonetheless.

  247. LA Loyalist says:

    I don’t think too many would argue with that. He could really play hockey, too.

  248. alestar says:

    Totally agree, he does not deserve to be on that list…

    I would add: Tom “the Bomb” Kostopolous


    XXIV…and counting


  249. SeriousFan09 says:

    Valiantly sitting on the bench and waiting for your turn to be let down by a lucklustre defence group? That’s the life of a goalie in TB.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  250. keepthefaith says:

    No i mean the Cedric , the career AHL er who will never be an NHL goalie. 

  251. Timo says:

    All aliens ever do is steal argon and engage in illegal moon rock trade. 

  252. Chorske says:

    Who got his face broken? That one? Ivanans. The one who got his ass kicked so badly it effectively ended his career with the Habs.

  253. Chorske says:

    This is horsecrap because we are losing games because of a failure to score, not because we’re getting our asses kicked. We don’t need more cement hands. We need a scorer, a sniper.

    And I still think it’s brutal you put Chelly and Corson on the same list as some of these lugs. Sheesh.

  254. LA Loyalist says:

    You know what, I re-read your post and it’s not a bad idea. One more small player on a Smurf team…

    I have no problem with small players per se, our last 100pt guy was Mats Naslund, Henri Richard was what, 5-7″? I LOVE Doug Flutie, I’d take a whole team of Doug Flutie, and I have no problem with Gionta. What I don’t like is PLAYING SMALL, which we do.

    If Desharnais can come up and light up some goalies, some of our other guys who should be scoring will feel the heat and step up. And the great thing about hockey is a real scoring threat creates opportunities for other guys. And what is up with Pouliot, he really has some stuff and seemed to be getting it going — is Martin messing with his head, too?

    It’s getting really old, trying to figure out what a genius Martin is.


  255. Bugs says:

    Holy cow. Any excuse is good to bring up Ramo and put down Cedrick, eh? Poor bastich won’t catch a break from you, looks like.

    Can’t wait for him to play a game. Cuz between you-me, if you can’t crack the TB goalie corps (you know, like Ramo couldn’t), you won’t crack any.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  256. Bugs says:

    Step right up, folks; we got a guy can see the future here.

    Cuz hey, if you say you can see the future, Keep, then it must be so, right?

    Still.., it wouldn’t hurt to watch him play a game or two, no? What’s that? No? Not even? Career-AHLer, huh? Wow. Mind set, huh? Ok then.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  257. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ramo was not ready to take over the net in TB when he was put there, a poorly-managed TBL team dropped him into the fire at the same age as Carey Price stepped in for MTL, but Ramo wasn’t a 5th overall pick oozing with a boatload of natural talent. He was an underdeveloped goalie who got tossed to the wolves. It wrecked his development path, he’s only now really showing what he can do.

    Desjardins couldn’t hold his own in the AHL playoffs last year and he was 25, how long were the Habs supposed to wait for this guy to break out so he can come in and be a backup goaltender? It’s not like the Habs owe a guy they pulled out off the undrafted free agent market a 10-year window to make something of himself.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  258. Bugs says:

    Ramo is “showing what he can do” in the KHL, Yahoo; let’s not get too excited, ok? Last thing we need is to see you go off half-cocked and convince someone in the organization to make a play for Yashin, ferpetessakes. What next, gonna see a tyke get a shutout in a street-hockey game and declare him better than Desjardins too?

    You know, I would VERY much like to see a game between an AHL club and a KHL club cuz I think our minors would give the Ivans a serious run for their money. In fact, Yahoo, I don’t buy the “if he’s good in the KHL; he’s good in the NHL” implication at all; not one bit. Unless of course, it is your contention that Radulov would be league-leader in the NHL as well?

    And Desjardins, boy, he sucked sooo bad behind Price-Halak, didn’t he? How could he not pass them on the totem-pole is beyond me. Ramo had a MUCH harder time piercing the Graham-Denis wall, so he can be forgiven, right? Boy, Guy Boucher sure was stupid to want Desjardins back.


    Give the kid a chance to play a friggin game before labelling him, ok? Please, Yahoo, do that for me.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  259. MTLForever says:

    He pushes the paniac button after one mistake. Someone please keep him from this button.

  260. saskhabfan says:

    Yup,retrowanker hoped we would miss the playoffs last year so he could go on a “i told you so rant” but unfortunately for him and the rest of his merry band of whining biatches the team proven him wrong yet again. He also said “mark my words,the leafs will finish ahead of the habs”,once again dead wrong. The guy has some real self-esteem issues. Better watch yourself though,because you responded to him he will acuse you of wanting to stick things in his butt. Which all i can say is disturbing. If thats what he is into,whatever, to each their own. But i think he should keep his bedroom fantasies to himself,or to an appropriate website. Not this one that is often viewed by young kids.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  261. keepthefaith says:

    How old is he? 26 . Still no crack in the NHL? You want him . You can have him.  And I dont give a pepe le peu  about what Ramo is doing. How many 26 year old goalies come in to the NHL ? The monster? LOL

  262. J Haul says:

    It works both ways. Look at the numbers Nabokov put up in the NHL compared to the KHL. One could say the K must be harder for goaltenders, based on that alone. Anyone can pick very specific examples to suit their argument.

    Also, I fail to see where the poster you responded to labeled Desjardins as anything. He’s simply stated what has been fact thus far. He’s outlined the career paths of both Ramo and Desjardins, and avoided putting up straw men like Yashin and unprovable hypotheticals like AHL vs KHL clubs. Seems like he’s been more than fair in his posts. It’s too bad more posters can’t behave in a similar manner.

  263. Bugs says:

    Yes, let’s look at the declining play of an old and broken goalie to accurately judge the level of play between leagues, that should be reliable testimony.

    “Just stating facts”? He “couldn’t hold his own”; THAT’S a fact??? But being MVP of his ECHL championship team, being named to the 2nd AHL all-star team, earning the trophy for the best gaa at the end of the season, and being MVP of the AHL all-star game AREN’T facts?

    Newsflash, Jay: I KNOW Ramo. I’ve watched him play more than you have. Not saying I “know hockey” better than you do; just sayin that in THIS particular instance, I can testify with more vehemence than usual because I KNOW that getting excited about Ramo might be a case of gettin ahead of ourselves, independently of how Desjardins pans out.

    For two years, I followed Tampa Bay. Nevermind why. Point is: it’s the only other team in the NHL I really got into. Happened to be when Ramo was there. He coulda WALKED AWAY with the num1 job, Jay. It was THERE for the takin. I WATCHED him. I SAW it with my OWN EYES insteada lookin at numbers, guaging the level of difficulty of said player’s surroundings in total arbitrary fashion and projecting on his future success with absolute confidence. To me, it’s better to see with your own eyes. It’s this way we were able to see that despite Carey Price’s poor numbers last year, there was no denying he had extraordinary talent. Ramo doesn’t, Jay. He couldn’t do it. And in TB, you’re forgiven for the first three goals you let in. I’M “fair” about Ramo, Jay, trust me. He wasn’t NHL material, gosh bless’m. Not even close. I didn’t see the “extraordinary talent” hiding underneath.

    Desjardins? I don’t know. Let’s see what he can do in the NHL with our own eyes before saying he can’t do it. That’s how you get REAL “facts”; nevermind where and how before, show me in the lion’s den. Then we’ll see.


    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  264. Bugs says:

    No crack at the NHL???

    Who did you wanna sit so he could GET his crack, Price or Halak?

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  265. habstrinifan says:

    Does this not remind you of last season. Slumped into prolonged mediocrity which never ended and was only rescued by the playoffs success. And it was a darn lucky thing they made the playoffs.

    The team that played against Dallas looked absolutely listless. As Timo implied, as if they were sending a message to JM. His coaching style and system is debilitating. And the effects show up during the long season.

    How many updates do HABS fans have to read where player after player who have left Montreal is outperforming any comparable player on our team. The latest being O’Bryne. He was not good enough for JM but is now a top D and bluechip prospect on a team that totallly kicked our butts. There is NOT ONE player on the Habs who can be said to be performing at a top notch level. Carey Price was but his play too has gone down.

    This is a dreadfully demoralising team to watch now because there is no future in their play. Period.

    It is very telling that Larry Robinson, who had offered his services, is not at least halping coach this team as an assistant coach. It speaks to the obtuseness and insecurity of JM. And in the meanwhile our proud franchise slides and slides.

    What will hapen?.  Would we lose another young player by trade for some old veteran who joins the rusted run-of-the-mill uninspiring core that JM embraces.

    Some broadcaster on TEAM 990 cited Redden and Spezza as examples to refute the criticism that JM is not good with young players. He said both players had their ‘best years’ under JM. HE IS WRONG. Both players had their ‘formative’ years under JM. And neitheR player can be said to have attained the level promised by their potential. JM ripped every shred of style and flair and ‘extraordinariness’ from their game.

    He is a blight to any team hoping to develop. Look at Cammillieri. He came to MTL with passion and fever for the game. Look at him now. Ordinary.

    It will be a great day when JM’S stay in Montreal ends. It might be too late however.

    Life is a pain as a HAB’S fan. Unease that we are destroying rather than building.



  266. keepthefaith says:

    Curtis Sanford was ahead of him on the depth chart. Alex Auld was brought in instead of him. Why all this whining over a career nobody?

  267. Price_Is_Right says:

    Dude, that’s funny! lol

    Good things come to those who wait…But only what’s left by those who hustle!

  268. Price_Is_Right says:

    Just re-read the artcle again, and sorry but your totallly wrong!!! First of all as someon that played semi-pro for over 5 years, you want a coach to “communicate” not “Manipulate” and all idications would point in the direction of this story being true! That being said, I have no way to confirm the validity…but considering the teams play of late…and their body language, It would explain a lot!

    And OH YEAH, look who’s OUT of the LINE UP AGAIN TONIGHT!!!

    Good things come to those who wait…But only what’s left by those who hustle!

  269. Price_Is_Right says:

    First of all, it would appear to me as if they were asking the question, hence the QUestion Mark! (try reading things IN context!)
    And as much as I don’t like stories being written negatively about the canadiens ( too much pressure as is!)
    It looks Today with PK out AGAIN!!! That they are pretty bang on!

    Good things come to those who wait…But only what’s left by those who hustle!

  270. Mr. Biter says:

    Thanks for the info. Have a Merry Christmas & A Happy New Year.

  271. Hobie Hansen says:

    Oops, you’re correct, I was taking a sip of coffee and talking on the phone and misread capgeek.com. Bottom line is that they have a lot of work to get the defense ready for the playoffs this season and put a good lineup out there next year.

  272. newbrunswick troy says:

    ya …good point, but does these next 5 define if we even get there or not???

    either way i think P.G must see that this team although is good…is still missing  a power forward (with proven point production) and a puck moving defenceman that can quarter back power play!!!

  273. SeriousFan09 says:

    If this was the first time I saw him not play up to a decent standard, it would be different but he was not exactly someone who was keeping VAN competitive with CHI in their last two playoff tilts (which I watched) and I can’t say he was really what was keeping MTL’s offence stifled when we last met VAN. Factor in some games they’ve had with CHI this season that I also took in and it just keeps piling up for me, I don’t get what he brings along that makes the defence better to the point where it’s worth the Habs giving up an asset for him.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  274. CBrady12 says:

    so one bad game and hes not worth pursuing? glad ur not a scout for the habs…

  275. MikeMcLaren says:

    Gauthier will pick up Wisniewski… that’s what I say.

    Can I start a website now and have people pay me for these insights?


  276. SeriousFan09 says:

    Okay, DET-VAN was a great game to watch (but not if you like a goaltending duel) and I’ll say this, no thanks to Bieksa. Not sure why he’s going to solve anything on the blue line, he’d be no more effective than Spacek, but without the excuse of being 36 years old.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  277. habs001 says:

    we can pick up a d if it means we can rest our older d…but the type of d we really need is just not available…pk will be that type of d in the future…our forwards get very little help on offense from our d…this is why we will remain in the 18-24 range in scoring

  278. keepthefaith says:

    Hed be waaayyy more effective than Spacek. And Picard. And he is tough. We have nobody that can do what Bieska does. Obviously he is not one of the best D men in the league but hes and upgrade on what we got going on here.

  279. Seps says:

    He’s better than Spacek or Hamrlik but he’d still be a useless pickup I think.

  280. Mike Boone says:

    I couldn’t agree more.

  281. JohnBellyful says:

    A Yuletide tale for older readers who remember Christmas lights before light emitting diodes came along …

    Old Man Martin was looking forward to this Christmas. With the help of his young assistant, Wee Muller, he had decorated his shop with the greatest of care but the pièce de résistance were the lights on the tree. There were four strings of lights, and while some shone more brightly than others, Old Man Martin had strung them together so cleverly they were truly a sight to behold, and their brilliance gave joy to the townspeople.

    And then one night, one of the bulbs on one of the strings winked out, and no sooner had it failed then the entire string went dark. Soon after, the same thing happened to another set. And with two bulbs putting their mates in darkness, that meant only half of the four strings were working. It was not a pretty sight and the townspeople were displeased.

    Old Man Martin knew what to do. He’d test each of the bulbs in a string that no longer functioned by putting it in a string that still worked. If the bulb didn’t glow in its new setting, he would know that it was defective and replace it with one of the spare bulbs in the box. And if it worked, well, he would return the bulb to its original string and repeat the process of elimination until all four strings were as radiant as ever.

    But the task proved harder than he anticipated, and in his haste to fix two strings at once by moving light bulbs back and forth, he lost track of which ones worked and which ones didn’t. By the time Old Man Martin was done none of the strings was lighting it up.

    Wee Muller found him dazed in his shop the next morning, slumped in a corner. The four sets of lights encircled his shoulders and curled like vines through his upturned fingers.

    After Wee Muller had taken his employer home, with Old Man Martin mumbling all the way about the system never failing, the young assistant returned to the shop to put the useless strings of lights in the basement, as that was now their destiny.

    As he was about to place them in a box, Wee Muller noticed a bulb was loose. He twisted it tight and, lo and behold, the bulbs on one string burst into light! 
    He inspected two other strings and performed the same miracle. A miracle only if you knew how to handle things properly.
    The last string, which had been the brightest of all in the beginning, was absent a bulb in the centre. Wee Muller found a replacement in the box and screwed it in.
    O joy of joys, the room was filled with radiant beams!

    Within a matter of minutes Wee Muller had restrung the lights on the tree and the rays of light illuminated the town, drawing the people once more to the windows of the shop. They were gladdened at the sight and departed with but one thought on their minds: It would be a very special CHristmas.

    But not for Old Man Martin. On his way to work the next day he was run over by a bus.
    Oh, he recovered, to be sure, and eventually found work in another shop. But it wasn’t the same, getting pelted by waffles.

  282. Danno says:

    JB – It’s a wonderful light and a Miracle on De la Gauchetière Street


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  283. habaholic68NJ says:

    Love the holiday tales.  Great post.

  284. A. Berke says:

    Nice yuletide story.


    Ali B.

  285. smiler2729 says:

    So let me understand the rules in Toronto at the ACC, you throw a waffle on the ice, you get banned, you throw a hat on the ice if a Laff gets the trick and that’s okay?

    Detroit allows octopi, Florida allowed plastic rats and some junior team has an annual teddy bear toss… man, Toronto just sucks.

  286. JohnBellyful says:

    The Islanders are worse. They throw games. (I could be wrong.)

  287. habs001 says:

    the game was still going on…100% correct that person should be banned

  288. LA Loyalist says:

    that was hilarious, thank you.

  289. joeybarrie says:

    In response to my post from earlier. FIRST OFF, my response was in ‘respond to Tony mode’ so i was a bit edgy…  I apologize for that. Second, I heard it from RDS maybe??? As a suspected possibility. Sure fits in with the whole no practice today.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  290. LA Loyalist says:

    We’re all edgy with losing, so no worries. The flu rumour is weird though, on the one hand I would be happy because it’s a known thing, though of course it’s terrible and decimated a good season a few years ago.

    On the other hand this schizophrenic team that shows up against LA and Boston and then loads their diaper against Florida and Columbus, it’s really stressful.

    All I ask is effort. Even from my kid. If he works hard, he doesn’t have to score, but if he floats around with one hand on the stick, no, not good enough. From our millionaires I ask 60 minutes of effort. No we don’t have enough horses, but this year Price is playing well we have a chance to be competitive in almost every game IF we put in the effort and play smart. No we’re not going to win every night, but this not showing up in the first period or the lame one handed checking, it makes me insane.

    Sorry. Anyway, thank you for being so gracious, I know we don’t often agree but I always read your stuff and I’ll try hard to understand your points. thank you.

  291. Danno says:

    Maybe this guy can replace Carlton the Bear as the Toronto Maple Leaf official mascot.

    Vote now!


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  292. habs001 says:

    we are 19-13-2 …if our roster was named any other team than montreal  most of the posters would say that record should not be better for that line up…we should be happy with this record…if you are not a biased habs fan (as many posters on this site are –which is fine) and looked at the roster individually based on age,career stats , talent and potential you would have to say this teams record is at full potential right now…

  293. HabFanSince72 says:

    Luongo was horrible.

    Let in two softies to Zetterberg to gift Detroit the game.


  294. OverseasFan says:

    I love the quote from the poor waffle-thrower: “I’m only 31 and I’ve been through a lot.”

    Boy, I hope we win a game soon.

    Go Habs Go!

  295. Seps says:

    That’s great and a call out to shoi2000.com, the other thing the waffle thrower said about the Eggos is that “the Leafs need to wake up and eat some breakfast.”  And as for getting kicked out for the rest of the year and perhaps more, he’s not missing much, as he was the best thing at those games.

  296. dre1744 says:

    I just noticed that Andrei’s  little brother Sergei  has 14 points this season.   Thats how many points  Scott Gomez  has.

  297. joeybarrie says:

    Actually Gomez has 15 points. AND at the 34 game mark last season Gomez had a whopping 18 points. He always starts slow. Good for SK though.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  298. Propwash says:

    The eternal question is, would he do the same or better here?


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  299. joeybarrie says:

    Yes you can.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  300. Mark Light says:

    Just as long as he doesn’t take them bowling it will be fine.

    I recommend a trip to a shooting gallery and a little rock n roll time with some AK’s that shoot more often?

  301. Da Hema says:

    I was wondering which poster would be the first to suggest bowling….


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  302. LA Loyalist says:

    I would trust Robert’s judgement, he’s pretty… um, “Serious” — but that said you make a strong point about not having support on offense from the D. We are spoiled from Souray and Streit giving us killer power plays that carried us the past few years. We’re having to do it the hard way now creating chances 5 on 5.

    I would give Weber and PK all the rope they can handle to learn their trade and refine their games and surround them with solid stay at home guys to clean up in our end. Benching PK was JM’s dumbest move yet, though benching a moody Russian (boy, there’s a redundancy) is pretty desparate, too.

    If we KNEW Markov would absolutely be back in a year and 100% it would be OK to get a 35 year old with some gas in the tank and not kill Hammer, Spacek etc with minutes. Problem is we don’t know. Tinardi is a couple of years out (don’t rush him), and we BADLY need a big tough forward, preferably of the male persuasion to replace Gomez, which we can’t… because of his contract… and we go in this circular argument that we can’t solve because we don’t have cap room or depth of assets and we can’t mortgage the future to maybe win one playoff round and around and around….

    I’ve worn myself out….

  303. MTLForever says:

    who’s a moody russian? if you’re talking about AK..he’s from belarus, if not then i do not know

  304. habs001 says:

    right now we are 14th overall in the nhl…the easiset way to make the playoffs is to win the division…

  305. A. Berke says:

    From the looks of it, it may have to be the only way as well.

    Ali B.

  306. VancouverHab says:

    Thank God — thank God — you are not the Habs GM.

  307. HabFanSince72 says:

     Here are some surprising goal scoring leaders for their teams:

    Chi: Sharp

    SJ: Couture

    WSH: Semin

    Phi: Giroux

    Bos: Lucic (!)

    Det: Cleary

    The Habs’ top scorer is Cammi all the way in 35th place, but tied with Datsyuk, Zetterberg and Ovechkin.

  308. DD says:

    Monsieur Joliat by Wilson MacDonald

    Boston she ‘ave good ‘ockey team;
    Dose Maple Leafs ees nice.
    But Les Canadiens ees bes’
    Dat hever skate de hice.

    Morenz ‘e go lak’ one beeg storm;
    Syl Mantha’s strong and fat.
    Dere all ver’ good, but none ees quite
    So good as Joliat.

    I know heem well; ‘e ees ma frien’;
    I doan know heem himsel’;
    But I know man dat know a man
    Who know heem very well.

    Enfant! Dat Joliat ees full
    Of hevery kind of treek.
    He talk heem ‘ockey all de day
    And sleep heem wit’ hees stick.

    He’s small but ‘e ees bothersome
    Lak’ ceender in de heye.
    Maroons all yell: “Go get som’ Flit’
    And keel dat leetle fly.”

    Garcon ‘e’s slippery; oui, oui-
    Lak’ leetle piece of soap.
    I tink nex’ time I watch dat boy
    I use a telescope.

    He’s good on poke-heem-check, he is;
    He’s better on attack.
    He run against beeg Conacher
    And trow heem on hees back.

    He weegle jus’ lak’ fish-worm do
    Wen eet ees on a hook;
    An’ wen he pass de beeg defence
    Dey have one seely look.

    He weigh one hundred feefty pound.
    Eef he were seex feet tall
    He’d score one hundred goal so queek
    Dere’d be no game at all.

    Wen I am tired of travail-trop
    I put on coat of coon
    And go to see Canadiens
    Mak’ meence-meat of Maroon.

    When Joliat skate out I yell
    Unteel I have a pain.
    I trow my ‘at up in de hair
    And shout, “Harrah,” again.

    “Shut up, Pea Soup,” an Henglishman
    Sarcastic say to me;
    So I turn round to heem and yell,
    “Shut up, you Cup of Tea.”

    Dat was a ver’ exciting game;
    De score it was a tie;
    An’ den dat leetle Joliat
    Get hanger een hees eye.

    He tak’ a poock at hodder goal
    An’ skate heem down so fas’
    De rest of players seem dormir
    As he was going pas’.

    He was so queek he mak’ dem look
    Jus lak’ a lot of clown.
    An’ wen he shoot, de wind from her
    Eet knock de hompire down.

    Dat was de winning goal, hurrah;
    De game she come to hend.
    I yell, “Bravo for Joliat,
    You hear he ees’ ma friend.”

    De Henglishman he say, “Pardon,”
    An’ he tak’ off hees hat.
    “De Breetish Hempire steel ees safe
    Wen men can shoot lak’ dat.”

    An’ den he say, “Bravo,” as hard
    As Henglishman can whoop.
    “I tink to-night I’ll change from tea
    To bally ole pea-soup.”

    Merry Christmas and a Habby New Year

  309. sCOTT1243 says:

    Just a comment on Gomez…his game has changed recently for the better.  Skating harder, making better decisions, he’s not hurting the team.  I have to wonder though whether he really had an injury…Any else think that Martin sat him and in order to save face they told a little fib?  Whatever the situation it worked.

    Also a comment on sitting AK46.  I don’t mind that he was a healthy scratch but what is Martin doing with all these line changes?  AK should have stayed on the same line as Cammy and Pleks.  What a line that was.

    Martin we are well deep into the year, stick to the lines that got you to where you are at this moment.



  310. The Teacher says:

    Saw this last year and really loved it. Thanks for the post for those who might not know of it. It really hits the sentimental bone :)

  311. redgorf says:


    I don’t know if Larry  is the right man but JM isn’t. If I were ayoung player and knew I  was going to CH under Martin Iwould ask my agent to try and make trade to any where.

  312. 24 Cups says:

    Sergei now has 15 points seeing that he scored last night.

    He was a real jackass when he played here but it’s tough to give up on a guy that young. 

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Habs skip practice

You would think that a team which has lost two in a row and five of its last six could use all the practice it can get but coach Jacques Martin decided to scrub a scheduled workout this morning in Dallas. The team leaves Big D at 11 a.m., almost two hours ahead of their original schedule, and will arrive in Raleigh in mid-afternoon. They’ll face the Carolina Hurricanes tomorrow night. It will be the third of seven consecutive road games and their last game before Christmas.   

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