This morning, Canadiens forward Travis Moen was contemplating testing the open market as an unrestricted free agent or digging in with a new contract with the Canadiens.
The 30-year-old Saskatchewan native goes to dinner tonight with a new four-year Canadiens contract in his pocket. He’ll earn $1.85 million per season, a raise from the three years at $1.5 million per with which he arrived as a UFA in the summer of 2009.
And the Habs rounded out their coaching staff this afternoon by naming former defenceman Jean-Jacques Daigneault the final assistant for Michel Therrien. Presumably, Daigneault will work with the D.
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Yea for Travis!
Regarding signing free agents. Since the Bruins like to f&*k with the Habs with regards of signing our UFA’s or teasing us with drafting the likes of Malcolm Subban. On Sunday why don’t MB sign Shawn Thorton, he is a tough guy can play some hockey and should come relatively cheap his last contract was only $ 800,000.
It would piss of Boston and their fans to no end and shove it back in the face of that goof ball Chiraelli, who looks like the cat that swallowed the canary.
To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.
He just re-upped for a couple more years. I would have liked to see him in a Habs jersey too. He is surprisingly one of the only B’s I don’t hate.
Per John Jaeckel in Chicago:
There are persistent, albeit mostly dubious, rumors of the Hawks entertaining offers for Patrick Kane.
I am hearing from two good sources, however, that although the Hawks are, in fact, willing to listen to offers, it is “99%” certain Kane will start the season as a Blackhawk. I have been told by sources I don’t know as well—going back weeks— one team that is keenly interested in acquiring Kane is the Montreal Canadiens, under ex-Hawk Assistant GM, Marc Bergevin. I have also heard the Canadiens would be willing to pay a high price for #88.
So pay a high price. Just don’t trade any of our new draft picks. Or Pleks, for that matter.
Richard R
Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.
Some of the best passages from a Grantland primer on UFA day on Sunday.
On Justin Schultz:
That means he’s doing what all free agents do — seriously considering offers from teams like Vancouver, New York, and Toronto, while also stringing along Edmonton to drive up the price. Unlike other free agents, Schultz can talk to teams before July 1 and will probably have made up his mind by the time you read this. He’ll wait until Sunday, sign a deal, and then go on to a legendary career (Vancouver, New York) or forget how to play hockey entirely (Toronto).
On how nobody tries to sign RFA’s:
Except that won’t happen, because nobody ever offer-sheets a star player. In one of the quirky little NHL coincidences, GMs refuse to make use of this simple provision in the CBA to try to improve their teams. Some would call this “collusion.” Others would call it “fear of having to fight Brian Burke in a rented barn.”
On tampering:
The first rule of NHL free agency is you do not tamper with free agents. The second rule of NHL free agency is YOU DO NOT sign Russian goalies to $51 million deals. The third rule is also no tampering.
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The rules are so strict that in 2009, the Maple Leafs were found guilty of tampering and fined simply because then-coach Ron Wilson told a radio station that yes, they might be interested in talking to the Sedin brothers when free agency opened the next day. The Canucks immediately complained and demanded that a penalty be assessed, because they’re Canucks and that’s all they know how to do.
On mistakes:
In the years leading up to the last lockout, teams spent July 1 handing out contracts with increasingly ridiculous annual salaries to decreasingly worthwhile players. The salary cap was supposed to make that impossible, but it had the flaw of underestimating the determination of NHL GMs to make horrible decisions. The new trend is to give out deals that are mostly bad in terms of money and horrifically bad in terms of length.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/31013/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nhl-free-agency
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June 22: Alex Galchenyuk [x]
June 23:
Stefan Matteau, Mike Matheson, Martin Frk, Brandon WhitneyJune
2429: Travis Moen [x]June
2627:Mathieu DarcheJune 26: Ryan White
July 1: P.A. Parenteau, Taylor Pyatt
July 3:
Shane O’BrienJuly 5: Carey Price
July 9: P.K. Subban
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this is a long weekend gift to all!
as for lou…
l’albatross
Moe has the biggest pair weve seen since leclair, odelein. good stuff. How can we not be happy so far?
Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
…weird I thought I did something. Maybe just reports on speculation as usual
Seeing something on TSN that Luongo traded to FLA. Anyone can confirm this?
@iancobb
Sorry Ian i just double checked the calendar and I can’t do the summit this year. I really want to so I really hope to for 2013-14
Unfortunately Oct 27 is the same night as the last ever game at Ivor Wynne Stadium, and as a Cats season ticket holder for many years, I can’t miss that night. There will be other summits I hope, but I know there will never be another “last night at Ivor Wynne”
Go Habs Go!
NHL Free Agency and Trade Analysis now.
Team By Team Prospect Reports coming soon
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Speaking of “last night at Ivor Wynne” — ugh!
Just as I feared, the Ticats, for all their offensive weapons, are vulnerable along the line. This team is in need of some defence.
Anyone with half a brain could’ve figured out that a team with a new coach, new QB, new RB, and new #1 WR would take 4-6 weeks to gel offensively.
The unforgiveable sin was not having the defence in position to carry the team given all the offensive changes.
Markeith Knowlton 2010 CFL Best Defensive Player, and All-star is on the bench due to a ratio issue. Cmon Bob O’billovich, what is this crap? Get another Canadian on the Dline or Oline or Somewhere so you don’t have to keep one of your best players on the bench,
Go Habs Go!
NHL Free Agency and Trade Analysis now.
Team By Team Prospect Reports coming soon
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please stop comparing Kane to Plekanec, they are two very, very, very different players. remember that Kane has spent most of his career playing beside Toews.
@UCE
Good stuff in the Schultz piece.
Cheers.
Go Habs Go!
NHL Free Agency and Trade Analysis now.
Team By Team Prospect Reports coming soon
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Thanks.
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June 22: Alex Galchenyuk [x]
June 23:
Stefan Matteau, Mike Matheson, Martin Frk, Brandon WhitneyJune
2429: Travis Moen [x]June
2627:Mathieu DarcheJune 26: Ryan White
July 1: P.A. Parenteau, Taylor Pyatt
July 3:
Shane O’BrienJuly 5: Carey Price
July 9: P.K. Subban
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Will you gentlemen shake your wieners and end this childish pissing match? Who did better halak or price? Let it go already!!! Price is a fine YOUNG goaltender, and to be fair, f@ck the past. Concentrate on what could happen in a few years with a solid team AND a seasoned Price! Regardless, we have great people in place who give a crap about les habitant and show it. Iam honestly excited for our future! And this page should be about how we locked up a great vet and leader Mr.Moen. And at a decent salary. And as for garbage Kane rumours.. Go play NHL 12 as its not gonna happen. Why give up good players for a clubber who beats up cab drivers? Yup, i want that douche in habs uni! Who cares how many points he gets, look who he plays with. Alright i must have another Rum, thats my drunken rant for the evening. Go HABS GO!!!!
An interesting article regarding the different tax rates and how it effects NHL teams:
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/how-high-tax-rates-may-be-keeping-your-nhl-team-from-winning-the-stanley-cup/
And here is a chart of how much a player would take home after taxes in each city if their salary was $2 million, $ 4 million, or $7 million:
http://business.financialpost.com/2012/06/29/graphic-hockey-havens-not-necessarily-tax-havens/
Needless to say, Montreal is last for each one… A player making $7 million in Florida, Tampa, Nashville, or Dallas will take home an extra $650,000 a year compared to Montreal.
Not as bad as I thought.
Interesting. Thx
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Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!
until they fix this there is no true cap.
If Kane comes to Mtl. We will also need AK to show him how tp Party like a man and not a punk frat boy.
Ya, and in exchange Kane can show the Habs inept offense how to put the puck in the other teams net. Fair exchange I’d say.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Since 1998, we’ve only had Recchi and Kovelev when it comes to konsistent goalscoring. I’m sure Kane could rise to that occasion, even with good brandy and dope still coursing through his veins. Alright nevermind the getting messed up part, we’ve been pretty sparse in the goalscoring dept. for far too long!!! Kane would be great!!
Plekanec, Kaberle, Kristo, Bennett and a 2nd rd in 2013 for
Kane, Hjalmarsson, Beach, and a 4th rd in 2013
If we are going to make a big deal with Chicago that includes Kane, I really hope Kyle Beach is part of the deal as well. This guy is a lose cannon on the ice, a madman, a lunatic that would apply punishment to the Bruins.
If the Habs were going to trade Pleks, then I would want it to be for a player like Ryan, with his head screwed on straight, not Kane who seems to put partying ahead of all else. I would like to see Beach with the Habs, but trade Pulashaj to get him. I also think it is a mistake to give up any draft picks for the next draft. So Far Bergevin is building nicely, they seem to have done a great job at the draft, time will tell, they are signing the key players, and they can plug a few holes short term with UFA’s if need be. If the Habs want to add a player wo has high offensive potential, see what it would take to sign Semin. I’d rather give him the money AK46 would be making if he were still a Hab on a one or two year deal, even a bit more. Having Markov might help him . There may be a knock against him for not showing up every game, but at least it’s not because he is passed out in a limo!
Habfan17
Does Pleks have a no-trade clause in his contract?
I hope not
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Capgeek says it’s a modified one.
http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=74
I wonder what “modified” means. Is it like a limited NTC?
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Yes. It is a limited no-trade clause. It means there are a certain amount of teams he can list that he can’t be traded to. For example, Gomez has a limited no-trade clause where he can list three teams he can’t be traded to. Markov has limited no-trade clause where he can list up to sixteen teams.
Why?
Because some people think he’s going to get traded. I’d be shocked if we went into next season with DD and Eller as our 1 and 2 centers.
If it was Kane coming the other way, he just finished a season as the #2 centre in Chicago. He could play centre for a year if Galchenyuk were not ready, and then shift back to the wing when Galchenyuk is ready.
We don’t have that luxury with Plekanec, and the other two guys carry minimal trade value.
…because, much like Price is Halak’s superior, Kane is superior to Plekanec. So I don’t want him to interfere with our team improving, by stopping us from trading for Kane.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
LOL ok there guy I never said Price was better than Halak or Halak was better than Price so you can stop getting your panties in a twist because someone had the audacity to criticize Price. In case you hadn’t noticed Pat Kane is a alcoholic head case just imagine all that drama in Montreal. Kane is a small sniper in decline and Pleky is a 2 way play making centerman, one of the best in the league I don’t see how that trade would help us. The point is moot anyhow because the rumor is BS.
Well I wasn’t responding to you stalker. So you can pull your big head out of your a** and see this site doesn’t revolve around you. As far as Kane goes, I could care less what he does off the ice, only on it and on it, he’s a hell of a lot betterr player than Plekanec.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
were under new management. that means we will shed waste and recognize value.
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(period)
Great signing. A cheap gritty guy who can pitch in a goal here and there
Andrei Markov, acting like the veteran and leader we expect him to be:
“Je l’ai salué dans le gymnase et il m’a dit que je ne devais pas hésiter à lui poser des questions si j’en avais», a raconté Galchenyuk, qui a dit avoir l’intention de revenir à Montréal cet été pour s’entraîner avec d’autres membres du Canadien.”
“I said hi to him in the gym and he told me not to hesitate to ask him any questions I might have” said Galchenyuk, who said he intends to return to Montréal this summer to train with other members of the Canadiens.
http://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hockey/201206/28/01-4539172-la-nouvelle-cuvee-despoirs-du-canadien-sous-la-loupe.php
So what’s this that I’ve been hearing? That a deal is as good as done that the Habs are getting Patrick Kane, Evander Kane, and Citizen Kane? I say ‘no’ to the deal if anyone brings up the thought of Pleks going the other way.
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Reporters caught up to Pleks and asked him about it, all he said was “…Rosebud…”.
Full Breezer 4 Life
Looks like somebody overdid it on the cocaine.
Nah, it was Drano. Or was that Kano?
.. no, it was definitely cokane lol
“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”
Mark Twain.
I knew it had to happen eventually Chuck, you and I finally disagree about something.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
OMG, I almost forgot. Today’s the third (month) anniversary of PG being let go.
All the white space along the right side below the ads and index is just going to waste when it should be put to good use, such as This Day in Habs history, interesting facts about your Canadiens, a 30-word profile with pic each day of a player who wore the bleu-blanc et rouge, candid photos of HIO members at work, Bruin jokes …
Good riddance. I’m still thrilled that he’s gone.
Do we have anyone on the coaching staff that speaks English as a first language?*sarcasm*
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Gerard Gallant.
I know I know… I just noticed that the separatists were quiet.. that’s all.
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Tom…look what you started…probably sitting back having a few pints giggling waiting for Eklund to post it.
IF there is any truth…it actually makes a little sense…we know Kane is falling out of favour, we know Hjalmarsson relationship is rocky. We know the Habs have too many centers starting next season and too many dmen of a specific skillset. We know that Kane’s age at 23 kind of fits the timeline for his peak years and when Montreal should be their best given the young corps. We know that the Habs are weak organizationally at LW and we know the Hawks need help on their PK. I can only assume that your private source …if not yourself…is at the very least a very astute rumour starter. The pieces seem to fit…the alarming thing is the prospects…depending on who they are…but IF Kristo does not want to be Hab…that is one. With the bumper crop this draft…a couple of prospects not named Tinordi, Galchenyuk, Collberg and Beaulieu should just about do it. I also think it wise to not trade both Kristo and Gallagher though as both are the two nearest top sixers …both could likely play the season after this.
The scary thing is that assuming the first three I mentioned are off limits…..there are’nt really two prospects that could hurt that bad…as he said noen from this year. With the Palushaj, Geoffrion, Holland and Bournival trades…the haul this year then we can actually afford it…and for Kane..as much as I like Pleks it may be the best move going forward. Much depends on the confidence in Eller and a time horizon for Gally. I also think Montreal would want a pick or two back in that deal given guys like Gallagher, Kristo and Beaulieu are far closer to NHl ready….
If you think that Beaulieu and Kristo are better traded than Bournival then you werent watching the Memorial Cup where Bournival outshone Beaulieu nor were you listening to Bergevin cite Bournival as potentially ready to crack the NHL after observing him at camp. As far as Kristo.. a project at best.
LOL PJ STOCK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS62QQotw-Y
to be honest, when I first heard about the commercial I laughed really hard, then I saw it and realized it was SUPPOSED to be joke.
Yes, I find PJ Stock incredibly annoying, but the commercial is not supposed to be taken seriously.
It’s still funny as hell when he puts on the depends. If only there was something for his mouth.
Oddly enough, there is (as revealed to the world earlier this month):
JohnBellyful
June 15, 2012 at 9:51 am
For those who are missing their Hockey Night in Canada fix, let’s catch up with what one of their star performers is doing these days:
“Hello, my name is PJ Stock and I’m a spokesman for Depend protective underwear. They’re for people who suffer from incontinence. I don’t, because I’m young and didn’t let myself go to pot.
However, I DO suffer from another problem: verbal diarrhea. Sure, VD got me a job on Hockey Night In Canada but running off at the mouth has also got me into trouble away from the camera, with friends, family, airline staff, cab drivers, hotel employees, waiters, the list goes on.
I admit it. I talk too much. What’s worst, I have nothing intelligent to say but does that stop me? No.
Now I’m not the only person on Hockey Night in Canada – in fact, in all of Canada – to suffer from what’s become a rampant social affliction but those days are about to end, thanks to the makers of Depends. They’ve designed special mouthwear that lets you breathe but barely able to talk. Even long-winded people soon learn to give up and shut up.
Here, I’ll show you. Whenever I feel like I’m about to say something stupid, like now, I reach inside my pocket and put this in my MUFLTH. DUZTHNT ICK WHAWWK GRAHT.
And as you can see, it’s easy to remove and keep stored in a slim plastic pouch that shows no bulge when you put it in your back pocket.
It also comes in three flavours: mint, cinnamon, green pepper.
Now some might argue such a product stifles free speech but the makers of Stipends™ say it’s not free speech that’s being stifled, it’s inane speech. And the payoff is better – and shorter – conversations across the country.
For those with a really bad case of verbal diarrhea – are you listening, Don? – there’s extra-strength mouthwear that temporarily cuts off the flow of oxygen: Suspends™.
Ujhfortunately, not everyone knows they suffer from the vocal runs. It took me thousands of letters and emails from viewers, and a visit to the doctor, to discover that I suffer, actually, what I have, and what my listeners suffer from, is a condition known as vapidity.
So, the next time Grandma goes on and on about young people needing to learn manners or Uncle Lou begins repeating that tiresome anecdote about how he took down a grizzly with a toothbrush, shove a Stipend™ in their mouth. They’ll thank you for it … eventually.
Uh oh, a dumb thought just entered my head WAW, THAHT WUSS CLAUTH!”
When loose lips sink friendships, try Stipends™ — the mouth guard for unguarded thoughts
Omg I laughed so hard at this thanks man
Moener!!!Still lovin it!!!!Pat Kane in Mtl? He might end up Sleeping with the fishes in the Lachine Canal,courtesy of the local cabbies.
Why do i have a sinking feeling we are going to lose Staubitz
Really glad Moen is back
and not Drache haha :p
Because Dave Stubbs already tweeted that he’s not coming back?
Full Breezer 4 Life
True dat.
Mike Milbury, Don Cherry, and PJ Stock….The three stooges of HNIC.
I’ve been really out of the loop busy with work and stuff is there a reason why they don’t want him back
he’s protection we didnt even see him beat up bruins
Staubitz isn’t really a pure enforcer: he’s just tough. He’s not big enough to take on Thornton or Lucik, if that’s what you’re after.
Not saying I didn’t like him, I did, but he’s definitely a fringe player.
Full Breezer 4 Life
He’s not big enuf? what about Chris Neil? he isn’t any bigger than Staubitz yet he’ll go with Thornton Lucik and in fact he has gone with Chara twice and didn’t look that bad against him……
Maybe because we got him after all our games with the Bruins? After we got him everyone started to play a bit more aggressively and with a bit more attitude. I was hoping we’d resign him but all he can do is fight we need a guy who can fight but can also contribute in other ways. We need a heavy weight that can protect some of the smaller players pure and simple Boston just loves playing the Habs because they’re small and they’re soft.
Darche is a heck of a guy but to turn down any type of an offer from any team at this stage of his career is a tad ridiculous.
Thanks for being a good Montrealer but don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
I thought it was really sad he said no to the two way ill be suprised if anyone gives him a 1 way
If he doesn’t get a one-way deal somewhere, he can either make much more money with his excellent McGill Commerce (marketing and international business) degree than he would in the AHL, OR begin a coaching career, which I suspect he would be successful with!
Full Breezer 4 Life
May even return to coach McGill while pursuing graduate studies.
He’ll be successful period.
Hobie, don’t be so quick with the scorn. He explained it quite reasonably, that with a mortgage and kids, playing in Hamilton for $150 000 didn’t make sense for him. He’ll play on an NHL roster or not at all. Another consideration is that his wife is getting her Masters at McGill, so she needs to be part of the equation.
He’s the kind of bright guy who doesn’t need to hang on to hockey in the AHL, he has options. If he doesn’t get a one-way contract, he’ll go on to the next stage of his career.
My main man Travis Moen resigns in MTL. Talk about a great decision by Marc Bergevin!
Picture perfect 3rd line player who will score 10-15 goals a season, if given the chance, and never back down from anybody!
Eller at center, Bourque on the other side, both score 20-25 goals, Moen chips in 13 and takes care of business, all you can ask for in a 3rd line.
Great signing!
Agree on all counts. Great work by Bergevin.
Stoked to have Moen back in the CH. Love his character.
It was a no brainer I think.
We still need to fix the defense though in a bad bad way
What is with this Patrick Kane rumor and it involving Plekanec? If a Kane and Pleks trade happens, I hope it is for Evander.
Ludicrous.
I don’t expect a much different team at this point, they just made a coaching change, lets see how this pans out before ripping the team to shreds by trading away homegrown talent.
I am in the same boat as those who are hoping BIG bucks are not tied in Price for a long time. 5 million per…TOPS. and no longer than 5 years. The kid is good, but he has not been stellar in the playoffs, and you need that to win. He had one great regular season, lets see if he can do that again, consistently like the ‘King’, who in my opinion, has been the best goalie the past 5 years.
EDIT: Glad to see Moen re-up for 4 years, nice contract, great player to have. Congrats Travis!
I’d say a 2.11 gaa and a .937 sv% in 7 games against the eventual cup champions, is pretty “stellar.” Price has had 4 playoff series in his career, 2 were great and 2 were awful, but the haters act like he’s been crap in every playoff game he’s ever been in. Halak was great 2 playoff series and was awful in his other one, yet he’s a “proven” goalie in the playoffs. The two awful series for Price were 3 and 4 years ago, when he was 20 and 21 years old. His last playoff series was last year, as a 23 year old and he was stellar. This opinion about Price’s playoff ineptitude is as outdated as his “weak glove hand” and “fragile mind.” You should probably catch up River and bring your buddies LA and the dude with you.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Two playoff series were great, but they weren’t the same year.
http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471679
Richard R
Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.
Never said they were. I’m not the one acting like what happened 3 or 4 years ago, is more relevant then what happened last year. Just saying, if you’re going to hate, at least get up to date.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Not to dis Price cause I really like him, he’s our goalie long term and the goat made the right choice trading Halak. That being said, he had great stats in that playoff series against the Bruins but he still let that OT goal in, we still lost. He has never come close to the miracle of 2010. Not even close. Halak took that team kicking and screaming to the eastern conference finals. We haven’t seen a performance like that since Patty Roy. Until he can either match that or take us to the finals there will always be that doubt in the back of people’s minds about Price.
Habs had a couple of very good chances to score in OT, but couldn’t bury the puck. Things had to tip the Bruins’ way at some point.
As for expecting your goaltender to replicate Halak’s feat… well, that is an extremely tall order. The last 2 Conn Smythe winners didn’t even play to that level so it’s a bit unfair to use Halak as the standard.
That’s what people remember though and why people still hate on Price IMO. I’d be happy if we even made it past the 2nd round with Price in nets he doesn’t necessarily have to drag the team there the way Halak did.
I’d say aside from last year, it was unfair to put the World on Price’s shoulders at 22 years of age – that is extremely young for a goaltender. Last year, they lost in Game 7 OT against the eventual Starley Cup winners and, I’m not trying to be biased, but it seemed that almost nothing was going to stop them from getting it (esp. not the disciplinarian department).
Well Halak’s play wouldn’t have mattered one bit, if Cammy didn’t score the goals he did.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Now you’re just belittling Halak’s performance to prove your point. That’s not really fair to Halak. He was stellar in the playoffs hands down. He not only got us in the playoffs when Price was playing horribly but he was amazing in the games that we won especially in the 2 game 7′s. I watched all those games and I was awed by him during those playoffs. Like I said until Price can get this team past the 2nd round of the playoffs people will have doubts about him.
@Lizardking89 – some people just can’t bring themselves to admit Halak played BRILLIANTLY during those playoffs.
He was loved (and hated, as some can see from this site), and appreciated by the Bell Centre Faithful. Remember the standing O he got when he SO the Habs in his return?
Not sure why some people’s opinion of Price has to ALWAYS resort to others begin the Halak bashing session.
No, you claim Price, who lost 3 games in OT, because he didn’t have anyone step up and score a goal, is at fault. Yet Halak gets credit for winning games where guys did step up and score. It’s a TEAM sport, games are not won or lost solely by the play of one individual, period!!!
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Hey River why don’t you show me in my post up top where I bashed Halak. You can’t, because I didn’t. You on the other hand, bashed Price, over playoffs 3 and 4 years ago, with no mention of how well he just played in his most recent playoff appearance. Then again, you’re a Price hater from waaaaay back.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
How many times did Patrick get yanked in his playoff career? Because I seem to remember if Yaro wasn’t standing on his head, he was crapping the bed in those 2 playoff rounds. Even moreso against Philly. Comparing Halak to Roy is blasphemy to me.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
Carey Price
I wasn’t comparing him to Roy, NO ONE is better than Roy no one. I just said that no goalie was that good in the playoffs for the Habs since Roy.
Now I know many don’t like hearing about statistics, but the sample size for Price’s playoff performances is rather small to make a statement like ‘Price is no good in the playoffs’ or ‘Price chokes during big moments’. I think it’s fair to say that Price is steadily improving as a young goaltender so I can see why he has value.
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@K-hab25 First off, I never mentioned Halak so I have no idea where that came from.
@jedimyrmidon Secondly, I never said Price was not good, or chokes.
I said he has not been stellar, and he hasn’t, especially in the playoffs. Yes I want him to sign a deal that keeps him around for a while, but not one that handicaps the team in case things go sour, or there comes about better options and you are stuck with a Luongo contract
Go ahead and avoid the point of my post. You know you’re talking out your a** about Price in the playoffs. I brought up your hero as a point of refrence. He’s had 2 good playoff series and one bad, yet you sing his praises. Price has also had 2 good playoff series, but has 2 bad playoff series and you claim he sucks. I’m just trying to figure out how that works and as usual you have no explanation or facts of any kind. Just your biased hater opinion.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
OK, just came in from a Friday meal with the lady (good vodka martini’s!) and what a veal chop! Yum! So no on Robinson… boohoo, what’s up with that? Why is it that we’ve almost gone francophone for the whole staff? Are all the players francophone. I think not going after Larry is one major mistake. Don’t even know who this Daigneault D guy is. Another newbee I guess. As for Moen, OK, nothing special, 4th line utility guy who God willing will have a breakout year at 30. Good for what, maybe 15 goals at best?
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“Remember the Heritage” don’t know who JJ Daigneault is? He’s no Robinson, but he had a decent career in Montreal and elsewhere.
He’s been assistant coaching in the AHL for a few years now.
Also, you’re dismissing 15 goals by a 3rd or 4th line utility guy? I would be overjoyed with 15 goals from a guy being paid less than 2 million a year playing 3rd/4th line minutes.
A lot of people on this site don’t realize that 15 goals is harder to get now than it used to be.
15 goals from 3rd liners is gold.
Full Breezer 4 Life
I used to argue the samething about Latendresse. He averaged 15 goals his first 3 years, playing on the bottom 6 and everyone said he sucked. There aren’t to many guys playing bottom 6 minutes, who consistently score 15 goals. Look at Eller, he scores 16 goals, playing bottom 6 minutes and people complain. It’s ridiculous!!
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
I was gonna respond but you did better than I could. Good job.
I demure gentlemen. I reacted with the slosh of alcohol still in my belly. I’ve recovered somewhat, just sad all the Big Bird possibilities didn’t pan out.
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It is my understanding all these new coaches do speak English as well. I think all have resumes which qualify them for the job and are a cultural fit. Seems like win win to me. Still apprehensive about MT but will trust MB did his homework.
OK, so if we’re starting with Pleks as a part of the deal, which I wouldn’t doubt, then you have to look at the rest of it this way:
If Markov is the D man going to Chicago, you need to give up a lower end D prospect to go along. You do this because I would think both side are assuming Markov will be healthy.
If you’re trying to get them to take Kaberle off your hands, you probably need to throw in a high end D prospect to make it more appetizing for them.
As for the additional prospect, heck, give them Gallagher and Kristo if they want. I don’t doubt Gallaghers talent, but by aquiring Kane we’d be picking up one undersized forward, no need for more.
If I’m Chicago, I want at least Pleks, Markov, Ellis, and Gallagher for Kane and that guy with the long name. I don’t know anything about him other than that he’s Swedish, has good size, and seems like a stay at home type. He ticks boxes that the Habs need.
If I’m the Habs, I’d try to make it Pleks, Kaberle, Beaulieu, and Gallagher. Beaulieu might turn in to a stud in 3 years, but we’ve got Tinordi and potentially Ellis who should fill roles in the top 5. With PK and Emelin already up, having those 4 guys and Gorges in the 5 make us pretty good on D in 3-4 years.
Boom and done.
I’d keep Gallagher out of the deal. Don’t underestimate the pull of Pleks the PK man. Bad PK kept Chi from a highter seed in the play-offs and llikely from advancing as well. They need a PK like Pleks who can score 25 goals. Pleks, Kaberle, Beaulieu, 4th in 2013 for Kane and Hjarlmarson. I have no idea if I spelled that right
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
I love that deal. But you gonna ghave to add a prospect. Give them Kristo.
“Pleks, Kaberle, Beaulieu, and Gallagher”… NO, NO, NO and HELL NO!!!!
So when a recipe says it makes eight portions, you can eat it in two sittings right?
Haha, no comment, I’ve eaten some of those in one sitting. Perhaps why my Athletic career seems stuck in a beer league slo-pitch league.
We need to get in shape for the pick up game at the New Forum. I’ll resist the Call of the Meatloaf.
How are we going to pick sides? Stickpile? East vs. West? Montrealers vs. Expats and Never-weres? Pricebots vs. Halakites? Tankers vs. Squeakers? The John Lennon Give Peace a Chance Beatniks vs. the Konopka Faction?
Whichever team I play for better trade me right $#@!#!! now!
Full Breezer 4 Life
Hang up.
I will be happy to coach either team with a beer in my hand. Been many many years since I played any hockey
The Habs will have to give up something pretty good to get Kane. I think scotty Bowman will have a talk to his son on this one.
I don’t know anything about this Kane rumor, but this I know for certain: Anyone who thinks Pleks is better than Kane has obviously never seen Kane play. Pleks is not even close to being the talent of Kane, it’s laughable to even compare the 2.
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Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Wonder if CHiarelli in Boston takes a run at Brodeur with Thomas gone.
Although Chicago may make more sense. Can’t see Marty staying in the East, given his friendship with Lou L.
… Toronto??
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Great point. Better option than Luongo… all things considered.
I think Ciarelli is getting real horny for Brodeur in Boston
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
Biron re-signs for 2.6M over two years.
If the Habs are going to trade for a Kane, I’ll take the one in Winnipeg.
And his BFF, Buf’.
Me too please, for cheap thank you. Plug him in next to Tomas Plekanec, the left wing problem is solved.
Funniest jaroslave post of the night.
LA Loyalist
June 29, 2012 at 6:51 pm
“He’s won several more NHL playoff rounds than Price, amigo”
Is winning 2-1 considered several? Its posts like this that make me wish the habs had played the flyers in the 1st round that year instead of the 3rd.
Is winning eight and losing 15 your idea of greatness?
http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8471679
Richard R
Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.
Is winning 10 and losing 11 your idea of greatness?
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
So in Baseball news Aaron Hill has just hit for the cycle for the 2nd time in 11 days. The all time record for hitting the most cycles in a career is 3 times! Incredible.
Don’t leave us hanging, Burl’. Who holds the record?
(I now know how you must have felt after Germany lost. Stupid Riders!)
Babe Herman (not Ruth), Bob Meusel, and John Reilly.
Edit: At least your Ticats kept the game close though
Thank you, sir.
Latts is not going back to Minny he wants to be closer to Montreal for his son. He might be coming back:
http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/min120629.html
Eek. He had a kid when he was 21? Also, why doesnt his family move… Weird story.
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
He left his pregnant GF and went with a new one. Hence why his son isn’t in MN. Classy guy
You obviously don’t follow football or basketball very much.
http://www.faniq.com/blog/Is-Darren-McFadden-Producing-Illegitimate-Kids-At-A-Record-Rate-Blog-6943
I bet he’s back. I bet he comes cheap after stating that he wants back
Great more damaged goods with a lousy attitude!
Just what is needed!
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In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.
They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.
******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.
Great, he wants to be near his son. What does that have to with us? We don’t need him. His compete level will not fit with the new philosophy.
+1
Mike Milbury, Don Cherry, and PJ Stock….The three stooges of HNIC.
Well, he DOES play LW … just sayin’ … I actually shudder at the thought of Latendresse in a Habs uni again. I’d rather have Pouliot again, no joke.
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Beggars can’t be choosers. There aren’t many UFA options out there to plug holes in the lineup and allow the yoots to marinate in Hamilton. If Guillaume comes back chastened and grateful for the opportunity, with better commitment to his conditioning, and takes a reasonable contract and reasonable term, we have to consider it.
I completely agree. Lats is great fit with Moen and Eller on the 3rd line and if Bourque can’t handle the 2nd line, we’d have Lats to plug in to that spot.
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Notwithstanding the stuff surrounding girlfirend/wife tha I am reading in the posts; etc; etc and his penchant for laziness and his hitherto lack of dedication… I am kinda warming to giving a ‘cheap’ remorseful and wiser Latendresse a second chance.
The lure of that height and big body and soft hands.
Amd I crazy?
It’s been said MB — Mike, not Marc — is leaving the Gazette, which has sparked a fear that HIO’s days are numbered. If the former is true and the latter a real possibility, is there a Plan B in place to provide a place online where our happy gang can continue to meet?
Would hate to call up this page one day and find a notice saying Hockey Inside/Out has been terminated.
And should we start collecting for Mr. Boone’s parting gift?
I don’t think he has said a word himself about it yet. But your question is a legitimate one. Let’s hope no matter what happens we see him at the SUmmit again this fall.
With all the propeller heads on this site, it wouldn’t be too long or much of a stretch for someone to realize there exists an opportunity.
In any case, there’s no doubt that HIO is the labour of love of Mike Boone among others, but it’s also a sizeable investment by the Gazette. If they are veering in the direction of a multimedia platform, they be silly to cut this boat adrift.
Another paper I visit online for my Chargers news is the San Diego Union-Tribune, and they’re going through some tough times too. They hired a new editor who’s all about video and wants the reporters to all carry cameras and file print and video with each story. The respected columnist Tim Sullivan was let go in a power struggle/disagreement/cost-cutting move. The Chargers section is being beefed up though, with more video, Twitter, polls, Q&A’s,…
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June 22: Alex Galchenyuk [x]
June 23:
Stefan Matteau, Mike Matheson, Martin Frk, Brandon WhitneyJune
2429: Travis Moen [x]June
2627:Mathieu DarcheJune 26: Ryan White
July 1: P.A. Parenteau, Taylor Pyatt
July 3:
Shane O’BrienJuly 5: Carey Price
July 9: P.K. Subban
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So Dreger tweeted that Gretzky called Justin Schultz to encourage or push him on signing with Edmonton. Would be funny if he signs there instead of Toronto and Burke runs his mouth in the media that it is an unfair ploy on the part of Kevin Lowe.
it would be funny Burly but it would then run on for months and months and you get the picture lol
Do you remember how long that offer sheet fiasco went on for lol
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Anything to watch that blowhard lose his top, I love it!
If the kid signs in Edmonton, then he’s a winner in my book, and his heart is pure. How many young players would pass up the lure of California glitz in order to play in a real hockey market, and the smallest one at that?
Maybe then Brodeur should go to Edmonton.
wouldn’t that be crazy
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What a great way to head for a cup. No other teams top 6 will look like the oilers. Wait a year or so. They will be fun to watch
It all reminds me too much of the Lindros situation in Quebec. I don’t like to see players not even playing their entry level years on the team they were drafted to.
I posted this yesterday. I don’t really mind what the kid is doing. He’s not sitting out after signing a contract, or pulling a Ryan Smyth and forcing the Kings to trade him to the Oilers.
http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/06/does-justin-schultz-deserve-to-choose.html
hmmm Ray Whitney is going to be testing free agency this year…plays LW and is 40 years old….he also had 77 points last year…….
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Would certainly help the powerplay, seems to be one of those guys that is winning the battle with age. Very impressive.
I just saw he was testing free agency…I didn’t realize playing in the desert how well he really is playing still. Good on him
I remember when he was drafted, and he was seen as the smaller, slower, not as talented complement for Pat Falloon. Both were drafted by the Sharks, with Ryan Whitney in the second round seen as a wasted pick, the guy who wouldn’t make it in the pros, and was only picked up as a security blanket for the first-rounder.
He has had a fantastic NHL career. it goes to show at the draft you really don’t know what you are going to get
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True, Pat Falloon was an overhyped bust, and Ray Whitney meanwhile kept plugging along in the minors, in Europe, until he fashioned a lengthy career. Good for him.
100% agree. I would be even ok with him being picked up for a 1 or 2 year deal. 40 years old and 77 points…that is pretty wild
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Not to beat a dead horse, but we should really push for Konopka instead of Staubitz. He can and likes to fight, and he can win faceoffs very well. What more do you need on your 4th line?
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
no.
Thanks for the useless quip.
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
I wouldn’t mind having them both and trade Ryan White.
No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.
Well if i had to pick White or Staubitz, I would keep White because he has some speed, and is not a fighter, but a pure grinder.
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
I think Staubitz and White on the same level play wise, watched Staubitz his whole career in the OHL. Very capable when given a regular shift. I like him more than White because he is a better fighter.
No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.
In a perfect world we sign shan doan. Trade eller/weber/belieu 1st for nash. Fill d holes with one year plugs and
cole-dd-patch
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leblanc-plecs-bourq
moen-nok-white
markov-emelin
subban-georges
diaz-plug
smell you in hammer gomez/kabs
gio doan and nash….none of them are centers
doan has played some center
Why trade Eller and Beaulieu two of the organizations best prospects for Nash who is 28 years old….that would make no sense
I’d trade Louis Leblanc before Nathan Beaulieu. Even still looks like a mediocre team to me.
No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.
Hey guys,
A nice piece out of Boston on the Subbans… Though I still hate it, there might be something good to come out of the stomach-turning idea of a Subban on the Bruins roster – like some acknowledgment of PK’s talent, less of the unwarranted venom and abuse he gets from Goons fans -)
http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/hockey/bruins/dj-bean/2012/06/29/malcolm-subbans-just-pk-bruins-fans-will-him
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A big Centreman, please. Thank you!
Nice read… thanks for the link.
Glad to see him back. Good salary and good term. Great 3/4 line guy.
If our friend Tom Nickle’s prediction comes true, and we end up with Patrick Kane, I hope that the prospects we send in return include Danny Kristo. If we take on a small scoring winger for the next decade, there isn’t much room for a player with Mr. Kristo’s skillset. Brendan Gallagher would sting more, although he falls in the same category of the small winger. I don’t think he will ever challenge for the scoring championship, but his heart and dedication and passion would be welcome on my team.
As far as the two NHL’ers, we’re acting as if Tomas Plekanec is a lock, so let’s go with that. If the other piece is Tomas Kaberle, then I’m dancing in the streets. If it’s Andrei Markov, that stings a whole lot more, but falls under the ‘give quality to get quality’ rubric. Both these defencemen have skillsets that we already have a surfeit of, we can make do without one or the other. If it’s Josh Gorges, so be it.
So there you have it, I’ll trade Tomas Plekanec, Tomas Kaberle, Danny Kristo and Brendan Gallagher for Patrick Kane. The pain level goes up as we substitute in Andrei Markov, Lars Eller, Josh Gorges, Jared Tinordi, Nathan Beaulieu, ….
Please note that I’m not saying my trade proposal is one the Hawks would accept, just what I’d be okay parting with, without too much hemming and hawing. This is a fan talking.
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Stefan Matteau, Mike Matheson, Martin Frk, Brandon WhitneyJune
2429: Travis Moen [x]June
2627:Mathieu DarcheJune 26: Ryan White
July 1: P.A. Parenteau, Taylor Pyatt
July 3:
Shane O’BrienJuly 5: Carey Price
July 9: P.K. Subban
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It’s like you read my mind.
I’d be okay with giving Gomez + Kaberle personally. I think Chicago would be crazy to take Kaberle and Kristo, since Kristo is at the age that he should be at his best pretty soon, and is still playing with boys in college, and Kaberle is cabage.
I’d give up Scott Gomez and Tomas Kaberle almost grudgingly, then run away laughing like hell.
As far as Danny Kristo, he’s a real prospect, he stood out again at the development camp with his skills, he’s a notch above the other hopefuls. If Chicago has his rights, maybe they can convince him to sign. Maybe an American kid sees himself in the second-best jersey in the league, but has a problem imagining himself in the best jersey in the league.
He also hasn’t signed with the habs and it looks like he is going to pull a schultz and go to free agency. The organization will help him develop and then he will leave for nothing and go play somewhere else
Kooch, I want him to sign with us, and I think we have a good chance to ink him, but he really owes us nothing. We picked his name out of a hat, and he then went to play at the University of North Dakota. He didn’t steal from us or anything, he’s not being dishonest. If he walks next summer, it’s just a player exercising his rights under the CBA. Teams do it all the time, why shouldn’t players.
http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/05/will-danny-kristo-spurn-canadiens-like.html
I understand your point it just kind of makes the draft process a bit of a joke. If he goes to the NHL he should have to go to the team that drafted him first IMO. Same goes for schultz. If he left and went to the KHL or some other league no problem but the team in the NHL with his rights should be able to retain that right unless traded.
It is always a gamble though and i believe they get a second rounder if they don’t sign but it just sucks if they are a really good player….
I made the point yesterday that there has to be some liberty for players in the system, or else the League exposes itself to anti-trust scrutiny.
http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/06/does-justin-schultz-deserve-to-choose.html
Having said that, I can imagine the new CBA will address this clause, and teams that can’t sign their picks may get more valuable compensatory selections.
I saw reports that he in fact didnt impress.
I guess I just focused on some that were positive.
from: http://www.allhabs.net/canadiens-prospects/day-4-report-from-habs-development-camp-part-1/
Danny Kristo may have been the player of the game, demonstrating his raw speed and soft hands, scoring once. To a certain extent, Kristo has flown under the radar with fans and media in Montreal but until help arrives in the form of the No. 3 pick at the 2012 Entry Draft, the Fighting Sioux right-winger is the Habs most-promising forward prospect.
Now I’m not a booster of his by any means, but every time I express doubt it’s explained to me that he was dominant on the US team at the World Juniors.
Markov only if I have to and then you are right it would have to be Kristo and Gallagher as the prospects … cause we would need Beaulieu.
But among Morgan Ellis, Tinordi, Beaulieu and there’s one more, I think Bealieu is the weakest defensive prospect despite his fluid and pretty skating style. So I will try my darndest to make it Kristo and Beaulieu.
The veterans I would give up would then be Pleks and Gionta or Bourque. If I gave up Gionta I would give both Bournival and Gallagher serious shots in camp. And if I gave up Bourque I would resign Latendresse the next day.
What do you think? Pleks and Gionta or Bourque
Kristo and Beaulieu.
This is a solid contract for Moen, he’s not old enough to really worry about term, and with the amount the cap has risen since we signed him in 2009 a modest raise was in order.
He’s played well for us.
Go Habs Go!
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Agreed, I like it too. He’s an integral part of the Habs’ third line.
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There is actually some Twitter buzz about Kane to Montreal, and it started yesterday … hmmm.
I still prefer Pleks.
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I guess it comes down to the people who believe Plekanec is really important to this team, like you and those who think he’s overrated because of his “great defense”, like me. I didn’t think he was worth 5 mill and he’s certainly not worth more than Kane. IMO
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Pleks does ALL the heavy lifting for the Habs. DD got Pacioretty and Cole and minutes against light competition: Plekanec got Bourque and a scrub and got asked to shut down the Malkins of the league.
Not dissing DD, who did a great job, but when you look at Plekanec’s assignment, it was far harder than anyone else’s on the team last year, excepting maybe Subban and Price.
He’s an excellent player, a very versatile and reliable one, and a very valuable commodity. The NHL is FULL of centres who make more and do less.
Full Breezer 4 Life
Well put.
I remember early on in the season Pleks fell hard into the boards, and was very slow getting up. Me and my buddies froze.
He was the ONLY player who was producing, who was reliable, and who wasn’t injured. He was being played on the PP, the PK, and on 2 of 4 lines. And he was doing amazing.
If he’d been injured at that stage, we would have been up ‘el creek de la marde’ without a propulsion device.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
thanks Bill and matty for being the voice of reason
“Et le but!”
I would agree if we were about to make a cup run. But… and Kane is only 23.
Yay.
So I’m not completely on my own with the ankle-biters.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
No one is alone
And certainly not you, not here.
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Is that your intelligent response to people who disagree with you, to name call.
Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007
Nawww, I’m just kidding.
Sorry, no offense.
I get a bit testy sometimes because people’s attitude on this site is far too often ‘trade good players for something we hope will be better.’
Plekanec is often the subject of these wild fantasies because not everyone is capable of seeing what an impact he has on the team. I understand that not everyone has a great grasp of the subtleties that are associated with hockey, and really just love seeing goals being scored and people having their heads bashed in, but it still irks me that a player like Plekanec, which every coach in the league would kill to have on their team, is deemed expendable by certain great minds who flit about this site.
I should just ignore it, I know, but sometimes it just gets under my skin.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Kane has 52 points in 50 playoff games and he’s 23.
There’s no comparison between him and Plex.
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
DD, Pleks, Gomez, Leblanc, White, Eller & Noky are all centers. If we add Galchenyuk to the list that’s 8. Something has got to give.
White will not be playing Center with Noky in the lineup. Leblanc can play the wing and Pleks is trade bait, if not now, sometime over the next year or two.
Well, Leblanc and Alix G are prospects. Eller is still learning the position and he’s certainly not a #1 center. Gomez is a joke so he comes off the list, and White and Noky are utility guys. So in terms of reliable centers for 12-13 season, we have Pleks, DD and Eller and a couple of depth guys and some prospects.
As a #1 center, Pleks is a great #2, as is DD due to his size. So we have two #2′s and a #3 in Eller who may move up to a #2 in a year or so.
Ergo your “8″ is not as deep as it looks, in fact we BADLY need a #1 center, which, god willing, will be Alix G in a couple of years. But if we can add Kane for PK? I’d do it because we have DD and Eller as depth for the #2 spot and it will take pressure off Alix G.
Make sense?
Leblanc and White play wing with the Habs. That leaves six.
Gomez is history. And then there were five.
Galchenyuk is a year away. Four.
DD, Pleks, Eller, Nokia. Four lines, four centres.
When Galchenyuk arrives, THEN something has to give, like DD or Eller hitting the wings.
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Well said, Bill.
We only have 4 centres going into this season.
Exactly.
And I MAINTAIN (emphasis, you know..) that Eller would be more useful to us on the wing.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Travis Moen is a very welcome signing. A noble warrior at a very reasonable cost, term is okay, he’s an asset that’s eminently tradeable at the deadline if we decide to cut bait. Glad he’s on board, if only to kneecap Mike Brophy, who was trumpeting him as a logical addition to the Leafs.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/free_agency/2012/06/28/target_locked_on_leaders/
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Stefan Matteau, Mike Matheson, Martin Frk, Brandon WhitneyJune
2429: Travis Moen [x]June
2627:Mathieu DarcheJune 26: Ryan White
July 1: P.A. Parenteau, Taylor Pyatt
July 3:
Shane O’BrienJuly 5: Carey Price
July 9: P.K. Subban
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Haha, you don’t often see Brophy’s name quoted here. I used to curl at the same club as his father. Because of the connection I used to give Mike alot of time, listening to him. BUt hardly see him or hear him on Sportsnet TV or The Fan radio in Toronto anymore.
One of his big breaks getting into the mainline media circuit was he had a photo of Gretzky when he briefly played for the Peterborough Petes (pretty sure it was the Petes). He had this rare team photo and Gretzky really wanted it for his collection (he was still playing in the NHL) and after Broph gave it to him he got Gretzky’s cell number and instantly became the source for all things Gretzky.
Edit: Oh yah completely agree on Moen, really like the guy.
Players I’d like MB to sign: Taylor Pyatt,Byron Bitz, Matt Corkner,George Parros and Artukhin!
Parros would be fantastic.
Artyukhin is very intriguing, unsure if he is still or resigned with KHL team but wow what a monster.
How about reuniting Travis Moen with his old buddy George Parros; but, this time with the Habs?
If they’re not going with Staubitz then I hope it’s for an upgrade.
A nuclear deterent to let our prospects play & gain confidence
Maybe a Chicago tie like M. Bergevin & John Scott
FYI, John Scott was traded at last deadline to Rangers.
He seems to be listed as a free agent on Capgeek.com
Oh okay, didn’t realize UFA. I just know he finished last year with Rangers, even though I don’t think they dressed him for one playoff game.
I have a source who I can’t reveal, but he told me that Bergevin is going to try and trade Gomez for anything he can get. That includes, rolls of hockey tape, a few broken sticks, and some of those smelling salts you see players use on the bench.
Then MB is good by me.
So its true we are trading him straight up for Komisarek then eh? hmmmmm
Trade Gomez for a Yoko Ono cd!
Hopefully the HIO staff are sharing their bonuses for all these hits with TN…fans can be crazzzy!!
Rumours like this could fund a hiring wave at the Gazette.
lol
I goggled this trade rumour between Hawks & Habs..i couldn’t find anything.. Did someone here make it up?
man, this place is better than the comedy network. good times.
I’m surprised when you googled it, you didn’t get directed back to this site.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
Carey Price
Maybe you should google it instead
Full Breezer 4 Life
You are probably right Bill, just for kicks though I would just like to get a chance to find out what he is looking for in this upcoming season and how much he wants or expects to play.
Ok guys I just heard some news, I’m talking like E4 here.. maybe like E4.5. I just heard that both Carey Price and PK Subban have both either already or are about later this evening take a dump.
No joke, I won’t name names though, it might be because I don’t want my source to lose ties or because I’m not sure this person really even exists. But this stuff is legit… Only, if it doesn’t happen, well, my source is still legit but the boys just didn’t follow through.
Good shite and hopefully not crap.
Hahaha, I love it. Although I do not think TN is making this stuff up, I appreciate the humour nonetheless…
No worries. I’m naturally speculative about most things I hear.
But I will say I will give props if TN is right, and hold a grudge to TN and the rest of the world if he’s not.
Also if one player does go I hope it’s DD because I speculate that he’s not as good as he looks btwn Cole and Max.
I know your source. PJ. No not P.J. Stock but Porto Johnny. He’s alwyas full of crap like this.
lol @ what Tom Nickle started.
It’s been a good day on HIO.
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indeed, certainly makes the 9 – 5 go by a little quicker
Just a note: if the Kane trade happens, Tom Nickel automatically becomes an HIO living legend.
Assuming there still is an HIO next season … rumours of Boone’s departure from the Gaz – apparently not rumours, but stated by Pat Hickey on TSN 990 according to Twitter – make me wonder if this site will still be around this season.
Also, a prediction: if Kane and Pleks trade places, Pleks will out-point Kane.
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And if it doesn’t?
Meh, then he’s just another HIO schmo like the rest of us
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I was hoping for retribution.
I don’t do retribution. I let karma handle that, and I want my karma CLEAN.
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Tar and feather? I’m down with that.
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Let’s be fair. Tom and I have butted heads, but on this I back him totally, he never claimed it’s a done deal, it’s in process and as such can go south over relatively minor things.
For example Kovalchuk was about to sign in L.A. when the L.A. GM wouldn’t get his feet off his desk and get up and shake his hand.
Sensitive Russian. Dead deal.
On such things the world turns, for better and for worse.
I agree about Tom – the butting heads and all.
He seems legit and honest, and is certainly not a troll.
I’m not sure how I would feel about the trade either – until I know who would go the other way.
I’ve never heard the Kovalchuk story before – very interesting. I wonder if he regrets it now?
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Nice freakin Kovalchuk story. Awesome.
Nokelainen is a waste of skin. Stanley cup champions only employ soft players who put up big numbers. softies who don’t produce offensively are a wasted roster spot which should be filled by size and muscle. 4th line should be a wrecking crue, even if sparingly used, they can protect our smaller guys, Nokia couldn’t protect himself at a ballet class.
j.p. murray
Now we just need to get the right person between him and White et voila, energy line. A McClemment, a Gaustad, a Winchester or I’d even welcome Moore back. If White plays centre then MB can go after a Moss or a Tootoo in that case.
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Could someone please tell me the original source of the Kane to Montreal trade rumours? Link please!
j.p. murray
Doesn’t exist.
thought so, i searched google. What the phuck are we talking about then????
Kane has skills, but seriously i don’t want punks like him disgracing our uniform with his lack of class. My grandfather would role in his grave if he had to watch that. Kane was born to play for the leafs. they just need to acquire Marchand and they can assemble the punk line : Kane, Marchand, Kessel.
j.p. murray
Just trying to be helpful: treat such rumors like investment advice from Bernie Madoff.
Tom clearly stated it was from a private source, not media, so there is no link. Tom believes the source to be reasonably credible based on history of his source.
It’s known that they are frustrated with both Kane and Hjaaaa I’m not typing his whole freaking name in Chicago, and given that’s where Bergevin came from, and the fact that the teams are in different divisions, it’s reasonable to presume a trade is possible. As to who goes back there, well, of course that is pure speculation but it’s supposedly two names and two prospects, and the cap / $ are close to a wash.
That limits it quite a bit.
We have to respect private sources. I posted the Cammaleri / PG sweater disaster from a private source and was ripped a new one by quite a few HIO posters, but screw them. I’m not giving up my source and neither should Tom, else we’ll never get anything else.
And if he’s wrong? So what? It’s a slow weekend.
just want to know if it’s real
j.p. murray
Sweater disaster? what’s all this then?
When PG traded Cammi, Cammi wanted to keep his game jersey, PG said he had to pay for it.
Later Mr. Molson (I believe) sent him the sweater. It was really embarassing for Habs.
Correct, Geoff Molson fixed up that mess. And to think of the crap he got from posters on here last year who derided him as a beer salesman who didn’t care about winning. He’s been a great owner in my book, so happy he scooped the team back from George Gillet, who I never trusted, although he did fine.
But you have to think at the same time it’s really easy to play off a previous relationship. I mean I’m sure those Anaheim ties that Burke has always creates rumours in Leafs Nation that Getzlaf, Ryan and Perry are being packaged for Kadri, Phaneuf, Finger, Gustavson and Komisarek because their back end needs to be bolstered over there.
check out the previous thread. Tom Nickle.
I wouldn’t throw that kind of money at him. But I would place a call kick some tires do a little work just to see what Brodeur is looking for. You may never know. What’s the worst can happen?
Eklund has nothing to say about Kane to Montreal. Does that make it more likely to happen?
Yes. But look for him to have heard Tom Nickel’s news by tomorrow, and label it an E3.
Full Breezer 4 Life
lol
I keep waiting to see him write the same rumour and claim he just got a phone call when in reality I think he just trolls every teams fan websites and prints the rumours fans make up.
Remember the McGuire thing with trading Subban to Edmonton. And rememebr one poster astutely point out that the very fact that McGuire brought it up meant that he was ‘stoopid’ enough to consider it, despite the valid explanation that he McGuire was pretending to be EDM gm.
Well next day on TSN990 one announcer almost quoted that poster word for word. I do believe HIO is copied.
I can see your point Bill, just wondering if Brodeur who will be forty won’t be playing 40+ games in his career again. Carey really should be sitting anywhere between 20 to 30 games to be given an adequate rest.
Brodeur may want to play his final season in Montreal just to say that he got to play for the Habs, since his dad was once an official photographer for the Canadiens. He certainly don’t need the money, so he may come at a reasonable price. Just food for thought. Would be nice though.
If Brodeur wants to play for Montreal he should go to Montreal 2.0 and play in Tampa. Makes no sense for us to chew up the 4 or 5 plus million to have him for one season. Heck, I could see Burke throwing 6 million at him to get shelled in Toronto.
I think the whole reason he’s even thinking of leaving New Jersey is that he still wants to play 60 games a year, but maybe Jersey thinks differently. His numbers haven’t been the greatest the last two years.
Imagine how much drive and pride you have to have to accomplish what Martin Brodeur has accomplished. He’s not ready to be a backup. Just my two cents.
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I think Price gets 6.5 over 6.
That’s insane. $5M for 5, if he doesn’t like it trade him to Vancouver, which is where he wants to be anyway.
I missed that quote, when did he say this?
He didn’t, but let our resident Ducks fan believe whatever BS he likes.
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The real Question is
oes Carey Price deserve $ 6.5 mil per or more on a long term contract . Or even better , Price’s demands are so unearned and only based on forcasted performance levels yet ascertained ,does Carey Price really give a shit about the Habs or their fans?
I like this Moen deal. The money is reasonable and term is tied into that. He has been a good player plugged into various roles and situations in the top 3 lines. I hope he plays with Eller and whomever MB can get. I am disappointed with the Staubitz departure. The teams needs someone willing drop them and played hard 6 to 8 minutes on the fourth line. I would have thought he would have more value then Nokaleien. Someone beside White has to able to drop the gloves. As to rumour about obtaining Kane from CHI, especially if some our better prospects are involved, that is a bad bad idea. I think a MTl CHI deal is inevitable sooner or later but I wouldn’t do it with Kane as the centerpiece.
I heard that Brodeur might be looking to test the FA market. Any chance the Habs may take a flyer on him. Would be a good mentor for Price.
What are you smoking my friend!
Something that makes you believe that Martin Brodeur hired an agent for the FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE because he wants to leave New Jersey to become a backup.
Either that, or it makes you believe that the Habs, who are about to sign Carey Price to a long-term, big money deal, also want to spend mega-bucks on Brodeur so that Price can back HIM up.
Good stuff, in other words!
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The next few days are going to be very interesting, to say the least!
This team will start taking shape one player at a time. Put them on the roster or move them out!
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