Bruins denounce racist comments about Habs’ Subban

A day after the Canadiens’ P.K. Subban scored in double overtime of Game 1 for a 4-3 win over Boston, the Bruins denounced fans who made racist comments via social media about the defenceman.

“The racist, classless views expressed by an ignorant group of individuals following Thursday’s game via digital media are in no way a reflection of anyone associated with the Bruins organization,” Bruins president Cam Neely said in a statement.

Subban’s brother, Malcolm, is a goalie with the Bruins’ farm team in Providence, Rhode Island.

Following the long overtime game Thursday night, the  Canadiens cancelled plans for a practice on Friday. Only the players who didn’t play in Game 1 skated at 1 p.m. at Boston University. Coach Michel Therrien and some members of the team were made available to the media at their Boston hotel at 2 p.m.

Therrien said he only learned about the Subban comments about 30 minutes before meeting the media.

“This is inappropriate,” the coach said. “There’s no one who (deserves) to be treated like this. No matter what, if you’re a professional athlete, no one deserves to be treated like this. And P.K. has all our support.”

Therrien said he planned to talk with his star defenceman about it.

“I didn’t get a chance right now, honestly, because I just found out,” Therrien said. “I’m certainly going to sit down with him and talk to him tonight. But he’s got all our support.

“I’m shocked,” Therrien added. “Honestly, I’m shocked to hear those type of comments. I’m shocked.”

Game 2 is Saturday in Boston (12:30 p.m., CBC, NBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Canadiens forward Brendan Gallagher also spoke about the comments about Subban.

“It’s not something that you really want anyone to go through,” Gallagher said. “He’s had to deal with it a couple of times now. He handles it really well. He understands that those are opinions of people that don’t matter. It’s something that he doesn’t  care about. He goes on with his life and doesn’t let it affect him. He’s very strong in handling it that way.”

Thomas Vanek, who was held without a shot and demoted from the first line with David Desharnais and Max Pacioretty in Game 1 while logging only 18:58 of ice time, also met with the media on Friday.

“When things aren’t going well, the coach has to make changes, try to get something started,” said Vanek, who was minus-1. “That probably won’t be the last time (lines are shuffled). You take it as we weren’t good enough, I wasn’t good enough. Today is a new day, we’re happy with the win, but we know we have to be better as a team and myself as well.

“A big part of why we had success as a line is because we played with the puck, not chasing the puck. Even on faceoffs, Patch and I need to help out Davey a little bit – start with the puck instead of chasing it.”

Desharnais had one shot on goal in 22:33 of ice time and was minus-1, while Pacioretty had three shots in 23:33 of ice time and was minus-1.

Said Therrien after Game 1: “When you look at the Bruins’ record throughout the season, you can see that the TD Garden is a place where it’s difficult to win. Every time you pick up a win here, it’s an accomplishment, no matter how you get the job done. Carey Price was outstanding and the power play clicked. We wanted to win the first one. Now, I feel that our team will get more and more involved in the series as it goes on. It’s a big boost of confidence for us.”

(Photo by Jared Wickerham/Getty Images)

(Videos by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell in boston)

Racist idiots try to spoil game-winning goal by Subban, montrealgazette.com

Tweeting Bleu, Blanc, Rouge, by The Gazette’s Brendan Kelly

Game 2 preview, NHL.com

Five keys to Game 2, Canadiens.com

Habs fans not complaining about Halak trade now, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Bruins’ Julien says OT penalties were deserved, by Pat Hickey

Subban, Price steal spotlight in Game 1, by Pat Hickey

‘We just gutted it out,’ Price says, by Pat Hickey

Faceoff set up winner, Subban says, by Pat Hickey

Price, Subban help Canadiens steal Game 1, NHL.com

Price like a rock, Canadiens.com

‘Canadien dive team’ makes splash in Beantown, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Coderre, Boston mayor bet on series, montrealgazette.com

Guy Lafleur picks Habs in six games, montrealgazette.com

Prime Minister Harper backing Habs, montrealgazette.com

Game 1 photo gallery, Canadiens.com

Bruins in good shape despite Game 1 loss, Boston Globe

Subban proves he loves spotlight, Boston Herald

 

723 Comments

  1. Dr.Rex says:

    First off, Its extremely sad and disgusting to hear these type of comments. These people who say such pathetic things are cowards. That simple.
    PK is a great player and even a better person. I have utmost respect for him and applaud his integrity.

    WE who despise these hateful comments must be careful not to relate these thugs to an entire city or fan base. IT is a small percentage of people and to STEREOTYPE a large group of people because a few come from their area or cheer for the same team is also a form of racism.

    DOn’t let the haters break you down and more importantly don’t let the haters pull you down to their pathetic level.

  2. johnnylarue says:

    So let’s say the unspeakable happens and the Habs manage to take Game 2, dropping Rask’s home record against the Habs to 0-10, and his global record to 3-15…

    How tempted will intrepid Coach Julien be to start the backup in Game 3?

    It could well be that stats are for marketing analysts, but at some point, surely, a snowballing planet-sized lump of circumstantial evidence has to be taken into consideration: with “half of the game being 90% mental”, is it possible that Rask simply isn’t capable of beating the Habs?

    • Chris says:

      Depends on how he plays.

      Rask said he sucked. He is being too harsh…the Bourque goal is one he absolutely should have had. But he had no chance on the two Subban goals (both were perfectly placed through screens) or the Bouillon goal (also perfectly placed through a screen).

      I’m sure if people asked Price, he probably would have criticised himself on the Smith goal (it was a perfect, seeing-eye shot through an amazing screen, but goalies HATE giving up goals from that angle) and certainly should have gotten more of Krug’s goal (right through the wickets).

      Both goalies played well, for my money, only getting beat when heavily screened.

      • johnnylarue says:

        I agree with regards to the quality of Rask’s play. He can hardly be blamed for that loss.

        But wouldn’t his harsh numbers vs the Habs, at some point or another, begin to take a toll on the Bruins from a psychological standpoint? You’d think it would cross their minds, what with Einstein’s definition of insanity having become a bit of a sports cliche over the past few years…

        • Chris says:

          Hard to say…I think professional athletes think far differently than most people seem to believe, which is how they ever survived the pressures to become professionals in the first place.

          That being said, I would be a bit surprised if Rask wasn’t wondering just what he has to do to get a win against the Habs. He played well, the Bruins were playing extremely well, and yet it is another L hung on his record. In some respects, I feel like Price has the same issue with the Flyers, and Roy certainly had it with the Red Wings. Great goalies sometimes have teams that just seem to have their number.

          The weirdest one for me was that Roy seemed to play his worst against the New York Islanders. I have no numbers to back that up, but I felt like his record against the Isles in the regular season was significantly worst for a few years than it was against anybody else.

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …LOVE Annakin’s new Habs anthem …I passed it on to Ian and He seems to like it too

    …I LOVE being a Habs Fan

  4. HankHardball says:

    People using Sterling as evidence racism is an old man’s disease, should note the PK comments indicate there’s young twitterits too.

  5. billylove says:

    Game one vs Goons was very similar to game one vs Bolts. We walked away with a win without playing our best hockey. In game two vs Bolts we played, imho, the best start to finish game any team has played in the playoffs so far and as my very tolerant wife would verify, I’ve watched the vast majority of playoff games to date. So, how about another game two performance.

    • ont fan says:

      It’s so interesting to me, when the playoffs start, who rises to the occasion and who doesn’t. We have all played for teams, that some guys are regular season guys and some are playoff guys. Sharks seem to have a boat load of league players. Hope there aren’t many on the Habs.

    • johnnylarue says:

      I disagree. We owned the majority of Game 1 vs the Bolts–I distinctly remember feeling like that game would have been a moral victory for the Habs whether they won it or not.

      Last night was plain ol’ fashioned highway robbery.

  6. JUST ME says:

    Habs need to worry about nothing but to play their game. They had a bad one in the system and managed to win it so tomorrow with the same effort and a bit less rust things should work out just fine.

    Furthermore the Bruins have more than all the pressure on their shoulders. They played a huge game and lost it and in fact never had the lead and now they even have to deal with their own crowd for fear of them throwing things on the ice surface or making some more brilliant comments. They know that their goaler is 0 and 9 in Boston against the Habs.

    If they think that those comments will go unnoticed and will not ignite P.K. and his squad then they need to remove their head from their… For us playing in the afternoon no being our specialty is the kind of challenge that we need to win now. Many players need to raise their level of excellence to playoff`s grade. I am tired to just be cautiously optimistic….

  7. Mats Naslund says:

    Kevin Weeks with some real talk on Racism in hockey today on Tim & Sid on Sportsnet. He always comes out in defense of Subban, and today he laid it out clear as to why people think about Drew Doughty in one way and PK in another even though they are so similar as players. I loved that T&S also tried to steer the discussion towards the culpability of the media in feeding the quieter and yet still omni-present racism towards a player like Subban. The whole thing was bang on if a bit meandering. The guy won the Norris and people are still trying to take pot shots at his character. The loony-toon tweets are one thing. We can all see how dumb those people are. The more dangerous racism is the type that tries to masquerade as some other sentiment.

    • DuckDodgers says:

      Nicely posted. Sorry I caught only the last few minutes of the show. Denial of deep-rooted and extensive racism is itself, rampant. I don’t equivocate on how Donald Trump feels about black people, women, or another racial minority group such as my own. I don’t quibble about how Fox News anchors feel about race. Cliven Bundy was almost going to become a familiar name, and then Donald Sterling stole his spotlight. Is it George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin who is easier to remember?

  8. Caesar is along for the ride for 25 says:

    Keep it up Boston and anyone else that is on PK’s back. He is simply one of the best players on the planet and about to send Boston on vacation for the rest of the summer.

    Habs need to worry about poking thier bears well we are not that far behind the Bruins that they do not need to worry about us.

    Boston just played one of their best games in the playoffs Habs did not. Habs have another gear that a few players can get into. Can they say the same?
    I’ll write it for public record I was never a fan of Bork, ever. I’m starting to really like the guy. Also once teams focus on him that leaves 2 other lines free to do some damage.

    Briere can be replaced by anyone in the Habs organisation for all I care.

  9. mdp2011 says:

    Someone asked earlier about the ratings for last nights game, the RDS numbers are mind-blowing. They had an average of 1 837 000 viewers for the 4 hours and peaked at 2 484 000 viewers. Sorry, don’t have the info for the CBC.

    http://www.rds.ca/1.1142129

  10. Maritime Ronn says:

    @ Mr_MacDougall

    Great post below re Advanced Stats and their NHL usefulness.

    The only thing that matters is what Bill Parcells said:
    ” You Are What Your Record Says You Are.”
    ———
    Unfortunately, there are no NHL Advanced Stats for:
    Heart-Courage-Sacrifice-Leadership-Belief-Trust-Sense of Family-Will & Desire-Team Destructive Ego…Playing Hurt-Meeting and Talking Things Out-Putting Your Face In Front of a Slap Shot….

    There are also no Advanced Stats for when Plex is a general out there directing traffic – when Markov sees things few other NHL Dmen do, or will ever see – the ‘Fear Factor’ of an opposing team when Subban is on the ice…

    Advanced stats are only/should only, be a secondary tool that gives a glimpse about things, and should be used accordingly.

    Those who use them as an ‘end all to be all’ – or profess that in their writings, are completely lost and most probably never played the game.

    Advanced stats are great for Baseball “Billy-Ball” as the game has so many 1 on 1 (Pitcher-Batter) battles.
    Hockey is not Baseball.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      You said it better than myself… Advanced stats do have a place, but there are many things that are unaccounted for, like what you mentioned.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Chris says:

      As much as I think it might surprise people, I am definitely in the camp that believes that advanced analysis and data should always be complementary to what our eyes tell us.

      I just find it strange how polarizing the topic is. As mentioned below, hockey is not baseball. But that doesn’t mean that unique stats have not been created to try and piece together what is going on.

      I have spoke with one NHL coach and one OHL coach about this topic, and both stated unequivocally that every team has numbers behind the scenes that they are using and not sharing with one another, let alone fans. So denying the usefulness of something that every team is actively pursuing seems somewhat pointless.

      • krob1000 says:

        I think what is so annoying is the thought that they are “advanced” …if they called some Basic shot and possession statistics, possession analysis or “terrorial advantage”, or something along those lines noone would take offense. Teh thought that these stats tell a better story then the basic stats (which tell the important story) is what is odd. Many times people write articles and trot out a bunch of statistics that do not consider other variables….ones taht still will not show up in these so claled “advance statistics”. What they do offer is some analysis, they offer areas that may need to be improved upon occasionally and they are something I am fine with them putting in boxscores ( I love the shot dots on NHL.com, and the hit tracker…I use them all the time and have my Bantam kids randonmly pick games and see where they come from and where the hits happen…to stop them from stepping up so often). I like knowing the number of blocked shots,etc.

        I have said it a million times on here….no “advanced stat” will be that advanced unless someone comes up with a stat that measures decision making. Evan that is not enough to offer anything concret…because there are subdivisions, decisions with the puck, decisions without the puck, execution of those decisions,etc,etc. The US Intelligym program is interesting…and ios something I find intriguing and someday they will have virtual reality helmets allowing people to simulate games and real situations…but right now the majority of these advanced stats are really not that advanced.

        • Chris says:

          Rob: Again, I am not talking about things like Fenwick or Corsi. Those are stats that, in various forms, date back to the 1970′s.

          Teams have progressed a great deal in the past 45 years. Every team is collecting data and crunching numbers behind the scenes, and they all see some value in it. I don’t know what those numbers are, as they certainly are not sharing anything with the general public.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Implying that something is useful simply because it is being used is pointless IMO.

        There are impressive mathematicians out there, but my issue is with the collection of data. For instance, the giveaway-takeaway stat is one that is terribly recorded, players are often charged with a giveaway even though it resulted in a bad pass from their teammate. Same goes for pass completion %, the quality and difficulty of the pass is not determined! just the success.

        If what you are suggesting is that teams have entire departments dedicated to collecting stats from very game.. Which would be in the neighbourhood of 1,500-2,500 stats per game.. Then another team of mathematicians developing useful ways of interpreting these stats, there is potential that the stats could be useful.

        If I were to try to statistically determine whether or not a player is “good when being pressured” I’d have to determine what constitutes pressure, then have a scale of pressure (say 1-10) and rate the success rate of each play (1-10) that the said player has.. Therefore he’d have stats on 10 different levels of pressured plays…. Same goes for passing, a scale to determine the difficulty of the pass, then a scale rating the quality of the pass… Same for attempted shots….

        The utter complexity of rating a player using statistics is mind blowing. It seems to be a more daunting task than finding the unknown in the acceleration of the Pioneer I & II spaceships, well maybe not, that’d lead to a Nobel Prize in Astrophysics, but you know what I’m getting at.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • krob1000 says:

          all of those scenarios come down to decision making and the ability to execute teh decsiions you make. That is basically what hockey is…95 percent of the gaem though takes place away from the puck. How amny passes are stopped becuase you force someone to never make it? how many lanes are taken away? how many guiys do you angle into a tough spot? how are you at getting open? are you ready when you are open? Do you know your options before teh puck gets to you? Are you patient enough to wait for openings because time is your biggest enemy and your biggest ally in hockey.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            And that is why Thomas Plekanec is SO underrated.
            The man is so smart
            If anyone believes the opposite, go and see a live game.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            @Ronn,

            For a quick and reliable HHIQ (habs hockey intelligence quotient) test, simply ask “what do you think of Tomas Plekanec?”.

          • Rockhabsfan says:

            Ronn – that is so true. I’ve seen a few live and even when Pleks is not anywhere on the stats sheet i generally feel safe, warm and comfy that nothing bad is going to happen when he’s on the ice.

        • Chris says:

          And yet, there are people that do exactly what you suggest. Chris Boucher has been doing this for years…some of the stuff he releases online, others he sells to teams. Check out his list of things that he charts. Most teams have people doing essentially the same thing, but they don’t release what it is that they are looking for.

          Basically, you assign a data collector to each player on your roster, and then you start collecting. It is too exhaustive to do this around the league for every game, but most hockey scouts find that you can get a pretty good picture when you “chart” a player for 3-4 games against good competition.

          If you go to a junior game featuring some NHL prospects, you will find a group of scouts doing EXACTLY what you mentioned: they try to rate a number of different factors.

          Of course these numbers are subjective, but certainly less so than “gut feelings” that so many are inclined to run with. Your original assertion applies just as much to gut instinct or feeling as it does to statistics: just because that is what people are using doesn’t mean it is useful. You just have to accept, or not, that the people doing it (including very successful franchises) have figured out how to do it right.

          As for the mathematical side of business, the old Despair.com poster about economics has always cracked me up:

          The science of explaining tomorrow why the predictions you made yesterday didn’t come true today.

        • The Jackal says:

          You’re right it’s hard to determine these things, such as being clutch, without collecting a ridiculous amount of clearly defined data. That being said, we can accurately extrapolate from “advanced” stats how a player performs in certain situations. These stats take into account the quality of the opposition, zone starts, on-ice percentages, etc. – with that data, we can accurately posit a player’s tendencies. Of course, these stats are supplementary to expert visual analysis and what actually happens on the ice, but they definitely give extra insight that is very useful for teams.

          ______________________
          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Once again, you bring forward some great points concerning the subjective accounting of stats data.

          Although Plus/Minus is not considered an Advanced Stat, it is also so very misleading.

          EX:
          In a Habs game this season, Douglas Murray made 2 great, tough physical plays-puck battle wins to gain possession in the Habs D zone.
          Once accomplished, he passed the puck up in a great move, then Murray skated to the bench to be replaced by Diaz.

          4 seconds later, the Habs scored a goal.
          Diaz was given a Plus +1 on the goal – he was nowhere near the play or had anything to do with anything, while Murray was given no + stat credit.

  11. johnnylarue says:

    Props to the CBC intern who dug through a mountain of digital files to find the only ugly photo of PK ever taken:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/p-k-subban-targeted-by-racist-tweets-after-habs-win-1.2629759

  12. Congrats to Team Canada says:

    Can anyone tell me where I can get the cap Subban is wearing, its not available on NHL.COM

  13. habs-fan-84 says:

    Some of the comments below, regarding Neely’s statement are ridiculous. Are some of you THAT fickle? Reminds me of George Costanza…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_QfilVbAd4

    • mark-ID says:

      haha, classic Costanza.

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

  14. Danno says:

    Anyways, I fell good! So high fives everybody!!! :lol:

    Or low fives – if that’s allowed…

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  15. 24AW says:

    out shot for three periods plus the 1st overtime, if they think they can win a series playing like that. They are in for a rude awakening starting Saturday afternoon.
    Overtime is not a way to try and win a game, one lucky shot it’s over.

  16. Ian Cobb says:

    When asked how the Bruins might change something up for game two!
    Marchand say’s “Half this game is ninety percent mental.”
    Now if they can win with a guy like that——–?

  17. Hobie says:

    Are the PQ supporters in Quebec (Charter of Values) allowed to get angry at racist remarks coming from Boston?

  18. Danno says:

    An outstanding display by Carey Price.

    Thank You Carey!

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  19. Prop says:

    Good on the Bruins organization and players denounced the racist tweets. That being said, Habs fans aren’t totally innocent either.

    Blackface worn by fans, and bananas being thrown at Kevin Weekes for example. All this needs to stop.

    ____________________
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  20. derfab says:

    So is Therrien going to tweak his lineup for tomorrow? What about the Vanek situation? Something tells me the idea of giving Budaj a start just to provoke (while keeping Price fresh for 2 in Montreal) may be a consideration, especially since 1 win in Boston amounts to mission accomplished. Go ahead, call me Judas and dumb and…. just trying to guess what might be coming.

    • Loop_Garoo says:

      There are 2 days off after Saturday for Price to rest. This isn’t the regular season, and there is no way Price sits.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Judas!

      I think we’ll see Vanek back on the top line to start Game 2. The message has been sent.

      Therrien would be fired, then lynched for subbing in Budaj after the show Carey just put on. That’s just not how a coach repays the guy who stole a playoff game for him.

    • Timo says:

      I don’t think there will be lineup changes. Team won and Therrien typically only makes changes when team loses or there are injuries. He won’t take Vanek out because he needs to get this guy going and pronto (hopefully he had a talk or a walk with him). I would still prefer Bournival over Moen but again… Therrien is not the one to tinker with a lineup that won a game and Moen is Therrien’s favorite. So unless, there is an injury same lineup tomorrow.

  21. Say Ash says:

    A touching tribute to Rask meltdowns, enjoy:

    http://www.thescore.com/news/493716

  22. Steeltown Hab says:

    Sterling is one person with a revolting view on the world, massive deal.

    17,000 tweets racial tweets directed at one individual person. Just a bit of media coverage.

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  23. munch17 says:

    I don’t know if anyone has noticed but we have scored on 3 out of our last 4 power plays.
    The first of these 3 was the winner against TB.
    They all have one thing in common.
    Pleks was on the ice and instrumental in all 3 goals.
    We need to score on the PP to beat Boston. 51-67-20 have not been good but continue to get number one duty – until the game winner last night. MT – take notice!!

  24. Mr_MacDougall says:

    @Chris

    If I am “simply wrong” regarding “advanced stats” being for micro thinkers, please explain some advanced stats that are actually useful. I will tell you this, the data used to calculate these stats isn’t sound. There are far too many unaccounted for variables.

    Hockey is unique because intangibles are often what separates one player from another, the stats show one thing but we all know which player is more valuable.

    You could look at stats all day, have what you think is a perfect hypothesis, and I’m sure within 20 minutes, myself along with a couple of friends from business school could shred the process to pieces due to missing factors. What is the benchmark for success? Do you throw away all stats against the bottom half of the league?

    All these little things are given far too much value. Do players lose points that go offside on odd man rushes?

    Winning organizations use macro thinking. They do not fret over face off %, CORSI, FENWICK, or any other new fangled measuring stick.

    Like I said below, all you have to do is look at past success to predict future success, provided that the game does not have drastic changes. It is quite evident that in order to be a perennial contender a team needs 5 major pieces… Those are an all-star goaltender, two all star defencemen, and two all-star centres. All it takes is to look at past champions, and the teams that competed for championships year in and year out. The Detroit and Colorado of the late 90′s.. The Blackhawks of today, the kings…

    There is not a single stat that can predict heroic performances like Quick and Thomas had in leading their teams to cups.

    Of course some stats are important.. But those are the simple ones, there is no need for convoluted stats in hockey.
    ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Cal says:

      The only “advanced” stats I worry about is how many drinks I’ve had.

    • Paz says:

      Advanced stat which shows time of possession is extremely relevant. If I have the puck I’m the only team that can score, and you simply can’t. In soccer, in football, in hockey, extremely relevant I would say.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Don’t disagree Ed, but how advanced is that? Maybe I am getting mixed up on what advanced stats mean. But there have long been simple basic stats which indeed Teams, Coaches, GM’s etc…. use.

        There of course will be evolvement in how teams use this information and it may get a little more complex, but no advance stat measures when a guy like Dudley drives across Northern Ontario and sits in a rink for a few nights one weekend watching the same players, talking to them, and perhaps family members of those players.

        • GrimJim says:

          Technically advanced stats don’t record time of possession. No one keeps track of time of possession. Advanced stats use shots directed at the net as a proxy for possession. The assumption is that if a team shoots at the net, then they must be in control the puck in order to do that. The team that shoots more, therefore must have control of the puck for longer periods.

          So now we turn on our televisions, expel anyone who asks what icing is, and watch.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Possession time is not an advanced stat, it is a stat.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • toinz says:

        Possession can be a misleading stat, even in football or soccer. The Patriots, due to a leaky defense and explosive offense, often led games with much less time of possession.

        In basketball, the fast-break teams will be dominated in possession.

        Counter-punch soccer teams like the Italian national team will et you have 70% possession and win games 1-0.

        The habs are a counter-punch team, forcing neutral zone takeovers and creating fast breaks. I’m not saying the stat is irrelevant, just needs to be taken into context.

    • The Jackal says:

      I think you are wrong here pal, winning hockey organizations are increasingly using advanced stats because they are useful metrics and good indicators of success. Whatever they taught you in B school is useful to an extent in assessing organizational use of resources, etc., but in sports you are using different assets and different data points to evaluate success and the on-ice product. It’s also a pretty big blanket statement to say that macro-level thinking is what winning organizations use – micro-level considerations are very important and that’s why teams make changes and tweaks, why character and intangibles are important concerns – sure, team character is a macro thing, but you don’t get that without every player buying into the concept.

      You’re right that advanced stats have some flaws, but on the whole, they are very useful indicators in predicting success over the long term.

      ______________________
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    • Chris says:

      |If I am “simply wrong” regarding “advanced stats” being for micro thinkers, please explain some advanced stats that are actually useful. I will tell you this, the data used to calculate these stats isn’t sound. There are far too many unaccounted for variables.”

      I cannot, because the truly useful advanced statistics are proprietary of each individual team and they guard them zealously. My point below is that all teams are doing this stuff behind the scenes, not to defend what is considered “advanced stats” on the web, most of which is not particularly advanced whatsoever.

      “Winning organizations use macro thinking. They do not fret over face off %, CORSI, FENWICK, or any other new fangled measuring stick.”

      Simply false. The Boston Bruins, a winning organization, absolutely fret over face off %. They target centers that can win draws very actively: Peverley was brought in for this reason, as was Chris Kelly. There is a reason why every Boston Bruin center is above average at taking draws…the organization has clearly targeted that particular skill, and understandably. Face off % leads to improved possession, it improves your PP and it especially improves your PK.

      The Chicago Blackhawks, a winning organization, were cited in an article below as putting a lot credit on their advanced analytics department, but Stan Bowman was completely unwilling to discuss what they were doing for fear of what they felt was a competitive advantage being weakened.

      “It is quite evident that in order to be a perennial contender a team needs 5 major pieces… Those are an all-star goaltender, two all star defencemen, and two all-star centres.”

      Mostly agree, but I will change your two all-star centres to two all-star forwards, otherwise your Blackhawks example doesn’t work. And the Blackhawks were loaded with far more than that: they had no fewer than 4 elite forwards (Toews, Kane, Sharp, Hossa).

      Nobody is going to disagree that stats are unable to predict heroic performances like those of Quick or Thomas. But neither is there any other way, including your gut feeling or eyes, of measuring those things…they are intangible. They happen, or they don’t. Crosby torched the Senators with 5 goals and 14 points in 6 games in the 2010 playoffs. People were wondering if he wasn’t going to challenge Gretzky’s playoff scoring record. Then he proceeded to 1 goal and 5 points in 7 games against the Habs as his heavily favoured Penguins got outsted. Few, if any, saw that coming, statistically or with their eyes.

  25. montreal ace says:

    I hope the fans at the Bell blow the roof of when PK is announced, during our series opener. I wonder sometimes if imbeciles get too much publicity, concerning their opinions. I know there are much more positive stories out there, that I would enjoy hearing about

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Well if you don’t like the Flyers you may enjoy reading this. It is written by an L.A. Based writer, it is a Roast and is very tongue n cheek. But if your like me and don’t like the Flyers, the Owner, the Fans you may be entertained.

    https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/eulogy–remembering-the-2013-14-philadelphia-flyers-161540395.html

  27. zephyr says:

    watched canadiens express today & kept a record of real scoring chances from the 2nd period on. I didn’t incl wild shots from the point with no chance, etc.. results: they were remarkably even. in the 2nd, habs had 5 incl bourque’s goal & boston had 8 but 5 of them were bunched into a pp in the last 5 mins..
    in the 3rd, there were 7 apiece. 4 of the habs’ chances were in the plays that led to bouillon’s goal. boston had 2 very fortunate shots go in or the game is over in regulation. krug’s goal was nice – too bad it was the result of a briere giveaway.
    in ot, there were fewer chances. 3 apiece with the habs’ 3rd resulting in subban’s goal.
    boston played better when the habs were sitting on a lead & on the pp, naturally. otherwise, this was a close game. boston took a lot of useless shots just to get the puck in price’s direction. the habs fared better when they forechecked boston’s defencemen. they coughed it up regularly. we need to keep up that forecheck tomorrow.
    it was worthwhile to have a dispassionate look at the game after the fact.

  28. D Mex says:

    Let’s get this out in the open :

    Timo MAY 2, 2014 AT 1:01 PM
    That because Neely most likely shares their views and issued this piece of crap apologies because of those pinko liberal types running the media.

    D Mex MAY 2, 2014 AT 2:36 PM
    Where’s your evidence that ” Neely most likely shares their views ” ?
    C’mon big mouth – put up or STFU.

    Your adoring friends are waiting to hear.
    Or will you retreat to silence once again ?

    ALWAYS Habs -
    D Mex

  29. sweetmad says:

    Been reading through different threads,what a laugh there are really some idiots on the net.

    PK and twitter,he will ignore it he is above all that,he will put it down to where it comes from, I actually read on NHL some one call PK m man,I read on one thread that everybody on the team hates PK,don’t have to say anymore,they know as much about our team as we do,which is basically all you can see,because we do not see them one on one,or as a collective when no camera’s are present.

    I am not worried about the DD line,Chara just sat on DD all game,so he couldn’t play,Patches was pretty much covered,so he couldn’t play that left Vanek with no one to play with,hate to admit it but CJ did a good job with that,MT tried to give him a chance on the other lines,but that didn’t work,so it is up to MT to find a way out of this,which I think he will,or he might just sacrifice the DD line so the other lines can do what they do,the B’s can’t cover all the lines.

    I want Bournaville back he is much quicker and can shoot,not frightened I think he is mature enough,he has shown it since he came up.

    So MT gave the guys the day off,I have seen many complaints on here because of the time off they get,Mt is very crafty wouldn’t you want to play well for a coach who gives you the time that MT does,mind games.

    Carey what can you say,it was a Gooins fan who named him Jesus Price,bet he biting his tongue now.
    Love that some one sent a HABS emblem with WE ARE THE NORTH to TSN.

    Just biding my time untill 9.30 in the morning,love our team.
    GO HABS GO ALL THE WAY

  30. UKRAINIANhab says:

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2629759

    Don’t know if posted already. Boston = Classless punks.

  31. Maritime Ronn says:

    This is for TIMO
    :-)
    —————
    – Francis Bouillon has now scored more goals in these 2014 playoffs than the “COMBINED” Total goals scored by:

    Sidney Crosby-Rick Nash-Brandon Saad-Teemu Selanne-Gustav Nyquist-David Kredci-Mike Richards-Jay Boumeester-Saku Koivu-Ryan McDonagh…..
    ————————————–
    It is now obvious.
    The Coach Therrien, “Make Him a Better Person” behavioral courses actually do work. ( see Subban also)

    Lastly,…yes, Bouillon has a day off, and a day of rest today.

    • Mavid says:

      hehehe..love it

      Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

      • D Mex says:

        … and again, there is silence …

        Anybody ever met this Timo clown at a summit ?

        ALWAYS Habs -
        D Mex

        • GrimJim says:

          I live in Calgary too. Timo is a nice guy, and intelligent. A lot of what he says is schtick done in black humour. Some of what he says stems from being a passionate fan who lets his emotions get the better of him. Cut him some slack.

          So now we turn on our televisions, expel anyone who asks what icing is, and watch.

          • D Mex says:

            You’ve met this clown ?
            You think he’s ” intelligent ” ?
            Because, for an ” intelligent ” guy, he posts cowardly, dumb-@ss sh!t, and melts every time he’s called on it.

            When your neighbour locates the backbone with which to defend inflammatory comments, such as his latest re : Cam Neely sharing racist views as posted to social media last night (take a look above), you can come back and talk to me about cutting him some slack.

            He was challenged to defend his latest stupid comments over an hour ago, and is busy pretending he didn’t see it (further above).

            Brian Burke is from Calgary, too.
            Puh-leeze.

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

          • Chris says:

            The need for people to defend themselves is a bit wearisome. There is no “burden of proof” necessary.

            Some of us like to have back and forth conversations (as maddening as they can be), while others sometimes just like to post their thoughts and move on. I don’t think Timo ever feels like he has to defend anything he says, and I imagine he gets a kick out of being getting worked up over any of his posts.

            There are a lot of people on this site that I would label a clown long before I got to Timo’s name. :)

          • D Mex says:

            Give me a break.

            Take a look at what he wrote about Neely, then go back and look at what he wrote about Babcock. None of it is couched in terminology such as ‘ in my opinion ‘ – it’s just out there.

            Defending this clown perpetuate the crap he spews before sticking his tail between his legs and running – every time.

            It’s cowardly and unacceptable – here or anywhere else – in my opinion.

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

  32. montreal ace says:

    There are loses and then there are overtime loses, which I think are harder to take. I am glad we are playing so soon again, less time for them to get over it

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Would be curious to know what the ratings numbers were for last nights game. The Raptors recently got 2 million viewers which was a record for them.

  34. Da Hema says:

    While the Bruins played a fine game last night, I don’t believe they will be so dominant throughout the rest of the series. Therrien was right that the Habs looked like a team slightly out of game shape last night — due no doubt to the long wait for this series to begin. The fact the Habs won the first game is clearly a very positive sign — the Bruins are not going to fire 50 shots a game, I guarantee. The Bruins are a good hockey team, but they aren’t the 1977 Montreal Canadiens.

    I do have something to say about those handful of posters linking the topic of racist comments against PK to Don Cherry. I am the first to concede Cherry is well past his expiration date. That said, he doesn’t deserve to be lumped in with vile racists. Cherry railed against the NHL’s former insane icing rules that led to so many gruesome injuries, he was an avid supporter of women’s hockey well before it became fashionable to do so, and he clearly thinks very highly of PK Subban (even mentioning PK in the same breath as Bobby Orr). Cherry is absolutely right to criticize PK for those unduly risky ass-first hits.

  35. Maritime Ronn says:

    A poster below wrote:

    ” Not all fans in Boston are like Sterling…every fan base and every city has their bad apples.
    Please do not judge the city by a few dumb people as Boston is a great city with passionate fans.”
    ——————————–

    While that may be the case, you can be the judge of exactly what ” A Few” means.

    ” According to Influence Communication, at 8:30 AM Friday morning, more than 17,000 messages with the #N Word (the full “N word” was used) have been posted on Twitter in connection with Subban.”

    http://tvasports.ca/hockey/canadiens/des-mots-racistes-pour-subban-1052014

    • Chris says:

      And how many were from Boston? Like I said below, this is an internet phenomenon…once something “shocking” gets rolling, the internet trolls jump on the bandwagon and try to carry it as far as they can.

      • Mavid says:

        It was trending in Boston..so yea they were from Boston..I realize not all Boston fans are A holes..but the fact remains they were…I still hear about how Habs fans riot..now we don’t all riot, but the fact remains they were Habs fans running around in their jerseys..its pretty hard to defend.

        Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Yes, and I’m sure there’s more than a few racists who don’t know how to use Twitter / don’t know what Twitter is / can’t count to 140.

      Just guessing.

    • dano58 says:

      A poster below wrote more than that so stop being a bad fan and taking things out of context and print all that I wrote. Sensationalism is
      what some people thrive on and of those 17000 plus critics of PK I wonder how many were by the same people over and over. People
      who give credence to that stuff give reason for that type of thinking
      to continue into new generations. I am not saying to ignore it but
      don’t give it so much coverage as those types of people live for their
      “10 minutes of fame” as it were which they should never get. I could go on but my meaning should be clear.

      GO HABS GO!!!

      “Always looking to better my team.”-M/B

      • jctremblay says:

        Personally, I am not at all interested in stories sourced from what people say on Twitter. It’s like getting angry over what you read on the wall in some dive’s washroom..It’s also a cheap way for the Hearst-like media outlets to generate controversy and hits. I bet there were a lot of closet KKK’ers from all over the USA jumping in on that..who cares?

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        dano

        The objective of the post was to define the term ” A Few.”

        The objective was not to define the City of Boston, yet many in very hushed tones – have over the years questioned the overall make-up of Boston’s Pro Sports teams, compared to other US cities…and exactly who was put on pedestals, and who they don’t for post sport careers.

        Long term love vs. quick and short term appreciation for what they do in the arena of sport – indoors and out.

    • sheds88 says:

      would love to hear what iginla thinks about the situation.

  36. FANHABULOUS says:

    I’m laughing my a$$ off reading those articles from Boston, going on and on about how awesome the Bruins were and how the Habs just lucked out. Really? We put 4 goals past you, I don’t think luck scores that many!

    But then I realized why they write such things: insecurity and fear. Think about it, the Bruins had possibly their best game and the most chances they might get in a single game against us. I fully predict the Habs will get much better defensively.

    So Boston huffed and puffed, and gave us their best… but still lost. Imagine what happens when WE start playing like we did against Tampa, now that the rust has been shaken off.

    ____________________________________
    “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

  37. montreal ace says:

    I was not happy about the low Boston hits during the game, I just cringed and was thankful neither Bourque or Gally, were seriously injured. I don’t find it funny that 2 of our best playoff performers, were hit in questionable fashion, and especially the hit on Gally.

  38. montreal ace says:

    My reaction to the Boston tweets, if I was one of their fans would be to applaud PK, during the introductions.

  39. JUST ME says:

    Do not know if this link will be working for everyone but this picture is…priceless in more ways than one ! Go P.K. Go!

    http://blogues.lapresse.ca/laporte/files/2014/05/Subban-Price.jpg

  40. mrhabby says:

    If Cam Neely issues a statement on this ..why not Bergevin stepping up to the plate.I know its Bruins fans and all but this has been a very news worthy subject with Sterling thing and now this.

    • PrimeTime says:

      You really think an opposing GM should go after their fans? It might make you feel better but it would not be appropriate.

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      • mrhabby says:

        I guess. but if my memory is correct Neely did the exact same thing when the Bruins meet the Caps in 2011 or 12 and they issued a statement re: Joel Ward.

    • JUST ME says:

      I agree with your comment. One organization Bruins or Habs must not stand speechless in front of what is obviously damaging comments in so many ways and they must do what is right to protect individuals and yes their name also. The Bruins will be in a funny situation once P.K.`s brother graduates if he does.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      “why not Bergevin stepping up to the plate”
      No.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      I agree that is inappropriate for the Canadiens organization to respond. However, the NHL could easily issue a statement that made it clear they don’t consider racists as fans or potential customers. That would not be out of place.

      In fact, it would be appropriate.

      As much as I do not care for Julien, he did say exactly that: he does not consider such people to be fans of the Bruins.

    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      No need too, wouldn’t accomplish anything. Having our GM make a statement would just fan the flames. Sort of when misguided fans bombarded the 911 dispatxh after Patches got run over by Chara.

  41. 24AW says:

    I have some bad news for the Boston Fans, there’s a dark horse team out there waiting to win the CUP.

  42. Ozmodiar says:

    Sid Seixeiro:

    “Toews is the best player in the NHL. The 2nd best: PK Subban. Deal with it.”

    on why PK is the most polarizing player in the NHL…
    “If circumstances were different with Subban, if he were white, the whole narrative changes with how he’s treated from every angle.”

    • Chris says:

      Given that Sidney Crosby is the best player in the NHL by a comfortable margin, I think he is over-doing the hyperbole. :)

      • Buzz Lightbeer says:

        Crosby is for sure the best player in the world. But if i had to pick one player i would want to see a hab it would be Toews-Stamkos-Crosby in that order. Why? I have no idea.

        • Chris says:

          I’ll take any of the three, but Crosby is just so good that I can’t pass on him for anybody. Only Crosby can get a label of being “weak in the playoffs” with 111 career points in 88 games. :)

          • D Mex says:

            Plus, he grew up a Habs fan. Simply as an observation, however, Toews is bilingual and speaks impeccable french.

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

          • Le Jadester says:

            I gotta say Doughty

            Habs, OLE !

      • Ozmodiar says:

        A lot of people would pick Toews over Crosby. A lot. That margin? Not so comfortable.

        I’m ambivalent.

        • Storman says:

          I agree comfortable margin, certainly not that much if at all,, Toews 2 stanley cups,, and 3 game winners round 1, this year, Toews absolutely rocks…

      • smiley says:

        On either TSN or Sportsnet when asked to pick the one player you would pick today if you had a new franchise the picks were Nathan MacKinnon and Jonathan Toews.

        • Chris says:

          Yep, and I find it pretty laughable. I would love to see the GM’s polled as to who they would start their team with. Crosby is going to smoke everybody.

          Crosby should win his 3rd Ted Lindsay Award as most outstanding player as voted by his peers. He should be winning his 2nd Hart Trophy (and he would have had more were it not for his injuries). He led the NHL in scoring this season by almost 30 points.

          I honestly don’t get the Crosby backlash. All he has done is perform at best-player-on-the-planet level for nearly a decade. Picking MacKinnon over Crosby is a joke. Toews at least has a small argument, given his defensive prowess, but Crosby is 6 months older and has 329 more career points than the 440 that Toews has posted.

          In today’s offensively challenged NHL, offence is at a premium. Yet the guy who produces by far and away the most offence is increasingly receiving a “Meh.” reaction. It is an odd world.

          For my money, the only guy that is even in the running with Crosby is Stamkos, not Toews.

          Here’s an honest question…how many of the people that rank Jonathan Toews ahead of Sidney Crosby were doing the same thing with Pavel Datsyuk 3 or 4 years ago in Datsyuk’s prime. Because at his best, Datsyuk was a better player than Toews has been thus far in his career.

          I actually did have Datsyuk in the discussion until age has finally caught up with him, because his point totals were right there with Crosby while playing the best defensive hockey of any star forward in the league. But I used to get routinely mocked for that, including by some of the people who are now putting Toews, a guy who conceded nearly 40 points to Crosby this season, ahead of Crosby.

          It is a damned good thing that Toews isn’t Toewsov, or Toewsson. :)

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Or some of us simply feel Toews is a great player, a great leader and like him to the point that it isn’t a simple choice between he and Crosby. I have no doubts about Crosby being the most elite scoring/point getting talent in the league. But in the NHL, the goal is to win a Stanley Cup, the league is doing everything it can it seems like to have the more grinding style win the CUp. Toews game to me is better suited to lead a team in the NHL PLayoffs than Crosby. My opinion, I recognize you vehemently disagree, but I don’t think I am alone.

          • boing007 says:

            Or Vic Toews’ son.

            Richard R

    • PrimeTime says:

      Tim and Sid are entertainers on a sports show much like all other talk radio host. What they say means very little outside of their own interests. Fans love it when hosts make comments to which agree and dislike it when they don’t. It’s a pretty simple and cheap business model.

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    • frontenac1 says:

      How do you measure”best player in the world”?by stats? By leadership? By the playoff? By the whole season? Was Gretzky or Mario the best? Reminds me of “Was Ali or Joe Louis the best?” it’s a Mugs Game amigos.

  43. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    Lot of folk everywhere ragging on the habs today. Both fans and non fans. We only beat the best team in the league in double overtime in their barn after a 9 day hiatus. Was it pretty? No. But it was a ballsy game and the 2 cornerstones of our franchise played like beasts. Hard to please some people.

  44. Stanley Cup or Bust ! says:

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  45. Chris says:

    I’m feeling cheated this morning. Tuuka Rask gives up a game-winning goal and nothing? Come on, Tuukka…it is the playoffs! Embrace your inner crazy.

    I wanted some of this. Or this. Even this would have made me happy.

    But instead, we get calm, cool, introspective Rask telling people how much he sucked.

    I’m not going to lie…Rask is one of my favourite players in the league. He’s just crazy enough that you always have to wonder when he’s going to go off, but he’s not Ron Hextall crazy, needing to go off every other game.

  46. BriPro says:

    I think Chara deserves a star.
    How many assists did he get for us?
    That big body blocking Rask’s view was precious.

    • Hobie says:

      I think that is the quietest game Chara has ever played against the Habs? I barely noticed him out there.

      • Mattyleg says:

        He spent most of the game holding DD against the boards.
        All you could see was the little fella’s head and skates poking out…

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Mr. Biter says:

          Actually Chara must felt a little bit sorry for DD as he could have checked him into next week a few times in the corners, but he seemed to ease off a bit as he checked him into the corners then just leaned on DD and he couldn’t move. Was a good talking point on the NBC feed “Where’s DD? “Somewhere behind Chara”.

          Mr. Biter
          No Guts No Glory

    • New says:

      The deep thoughts of a generation of huffers too lazy to take their paint cans to a nearby underpass. Vanity thy name be twitter.

    • B says:

      Boston wrong!

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • FB says:

      Ignorant is right.

      Say hi to your fans Malcom

    • D Mex says:

      Dumb mutts.
      If they spent a little less time with their noses up their own butts, they’d realize that Iginla and a certain goaltending prospect are listening, too.

      ALWAYS Habs -
      D Mex

    • dano58 says:

      Not all fans in Boston are like Sterling as not all Habs fans are bad either but every fan base and every city has their bad apples. Please
      do not judge the city by a few dumb people as Boston is a great city
      with passionate fans. I have family there but they are like me Habs
      fans.
      GO HABS GO!!!

      “Always looking to better my team.”-M/B

      • D Mex says:

        dano58
        I speak for myself in stating that my comments on this subject apply to those who are ignorant, however numerous they may be. In addition to great friends and relatives who reside in the States of NY, FL and CA, I have family residing in Springfield Mass, and have no fear on where any of them stand on this topic. You are stating the same for your family.

        This is as good a place as any to note that one of the great achievements of the City of Montréal is its historical role in supporting the great Jackie Robinson. That the CH are doing their part to breathe new life into that legacy is, I believe, a source of pride to all Habs fans.

        All good, I trust …

        ALWAYS Habs -
        D Mex

  47. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So Desharnais, Pacioretty and Vanek got the 1st wave of the PP last night…nothing happened. Plekanec, Briere, Markov and Gallagher are on the ice for both PP goals by PK.

    I think they have their #1 PP unit now.

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    Folks, it’s Playoffs time, and that’ll keep ya on yer seats!
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  48. BriPro says:

    Enough of the racism, already!

    • Chris says:

      I wish people would stop with this stuff.

      Those tweets have very little to do with the Boston Bruins or their fan-base. Are there a few idiots in the fan-base? Of course…just as there are idiots, racists, homophobes, xenophobes, etc. in every other fan base around the NHL.

      But what happened last night has more to do with the stupidity of the internet. People saw an opportunity to make some racist comments (I would bet a significant amount of money that half those 17,000 tweets or more came from people that have never watched a Bruins game…they piled on a “fun” trending event on Twitter), and let fly.

      Social media is the Mos Eisley Spaceport of the real world…you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. Let’s not judge the Boston Bruins or their fans based on the idiocy of anonymous internet trolls.

    • DuckDodgers says:

      Won’t forget your recall of people breaking into Bill Russell’s home, and defecating on his bed.
      I don’t know if a banana was thrown at Kevin Weekes, or loud racial epithets were the manner that Bell Centre fans expressed their racial hatred.
      Christopher Moorhouse threw a banana at Wayne Simmonds in London back in 2012, then lied above his motives in court after.

    • dh says:

      It’s one thing when Don Cherry is an idiot. Look at the Bruins suit he’s wearing. We expect him to be an idiot.

      What pisses me off is the NHL awarding Marchand the second star. I mean WTF? Price 3rd star? Marchand 2nd? Gimme a friggin break.

    • mdp2011 says:

      For once, I agree with Don Cherry. PK did it at least 4 times yesterday with zero success and each time took him self out of the play. He needs to pick his spots better.

      • Strummer says:

        +1

        ______________________________________________________
        “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

    • PrimeTime says:

      Cherry was (is?) a Rob Ford supporter. Nuff said!

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  49. careysubban3176 says:

    Hey guys let’s just not return the favor regarding the racial quotes. Booing the U.S. national anthem is just as bad.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      It absolutely is not. Playing the national anthem is bad period. Save that for political events, not sporting events.

      Booing a national anthem is bad? Please explain why..

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • Loop_Garoo says:

        I agree that playing the anthems before games is stupid, however booing another country’s national anthem is disrespectful to the entire nation, and we should be above that.

  50. Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

    Some poster, I can’t remember who, scoffed at Timo’s (I think) suggestion that PK is booed because of the colour of his skin. I happen to share Timo’s view and offer this as evidence that maybe he and I have a leg to stand on….

    http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/pk-subban-targeted-by-thousands-of-racist-tweets-after-habs-win

    ~~ You’ve been spun ~~

    • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

      Sorry, I see that the topic has been discussed already. Scroll by everybody.

      ~~ You’ve been spun ~~

      • D Mex says:

        Your buddy also questioned Babcock’s rationale for limiting PK’s ice time in Sochi within this framework. He was challenged, by me, to produce something / anything to support those claims, and responded with silence.

        My dad always told me you’re known by the company you keep, you might want to consider that before you step up to share the podium with a moar-on.

        Just sayin’ …

        ALWAYS Habs -
        D Mex

  51. HabinBurlington says:

    I suppose this was expected following an Olympic year, but not exactly a whose who of players going to IIHF Worlds for Team USA. Tim Thomas, however, is going to represent the States.

    http://mensworlds.usahockey.com/page/show/819370-roster

  52. habsfan0 says:

    May 2, 1967..47 years ago today.
    The last time the Laffs hoisted the Stanley Cup.
    Chicago Cubs fans have been waiting 106 years for their team to bring home the goods.
    The Laffs will challenge this record,IMHO.

  53. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So PK thought it was Desharnais, In Pat Hickey’s article he writes that it was Briere…I’m pretty sure it was Plekanec that took the faceoff, won it to Briere who then passed to Markov, who then passed to Subban to score the winner…

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    • BriPro says:

      You are correct!
      That’s exactly what happened.

      • RiverviewCanadien says:

        No wonder Plekanec gets no accolades…

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    • Chris says:

      Plekanec won the faceoff, Briere quickly dropped it to Markov who quickly wheeled it to Subban, who quickly bombed it into the net. Whole process took just under 4 seconds. :)

      • RiverviewCanadien says:

        Was it ever a sweet play! Those 4 guys have so much hockey smarts.

        One of the best plays I’ve seen in a while. But seriously, Tomas was key, and he gets shafted…not even an interview above to talk about the “game-winning” faceoff win…What the deuce!?

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        • krob1000 says:

          All 5 guys involved…Pleks won the draw but Gallagher screen and drawing Chara in front of hisgoalie were just as key as any other part…it truly was a 5 man effort in a 4 second span…

          • RiverviewCanadien says:

            No doubt Krob, see my post above…Habs now have their #1 PP unit. And all those guys were part of both goals.

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      • DuckDodgers says:

        Glad they didn’t wave it off for goalie interference by Briere.

        • mdp2011 says:

          Yup, was really worried they would call it back watching it live, but if you look at the replay, the contact with the goalie came after the puck went into the net.

        • Chris says:

          No interference occurred. And Rask, who is not the most stable personality when giving up game-winning goals, would have let everybody from here to Timbuktu know if he had been bumped in any way on the play. :)

        • Ozmodiar says:

          The only thing that touched Rask before the puck went in was Briere’s OT playoff mystique. The vibes knocked him slightly out of position.

          Nothing in the rule book for that, tho.

  54. HabinBurlington says:

    Not usually a Yankee fan, but gottal love this Yankee fan.

    http://deadspin.com/yankee-fan-wins-1-5m-after-town-wouldnt-let-him-open-1570814381

    All he wanted to do was open his “Buck Foston’s Road House”

  55. HabinBurlington says:

    While I am not big into the analytics (I just get frustrated when people use analytics alone to justify results etc…) here is an interesting little piece comparing what the Hawks and Stan Bowman are doing compared to Burke in Calgary (and prior in T.O.).

    http://deadspin.com/the-blackhawks-use-advanced-analytics-shouldnt-your-te-1570839139

    • Chris says:

      Every team uses advanced analytics in some form. All junior teams do it.

      I don’t put much stock in what Burke says in that article because you know that even his teams are collecting data. Now Burke might (I know that this is an understatement) be enough of a blow-hard to ignore all other information, but I can pretty much guarantee that the Flames do have some people collecting data in a variety of ways, including ways that the “advanced stats” fans haven’t thought up.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Data only matters to micro thinkers. All macro thinkers understand that all numbers go out the window in playoffs and individual performances take teams to championships.

        The most common recipe for a hockey championship is made up of 5 all-starish core players. Two all-star D, Top two centres, and Goal-tending. Examples include Pitts (early 90′s and 2010ish) Det, Colorado, Chicago, 80′s Oilers, 80′s Flames, 90′s Rangers, 90′s Stars, Hurricanes…

        Those 5 roster positions are pre-requisites to being a perennial contender. Sure the Devils won with a different model, but most champions have at least 4/5 of these, while repeats have all.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          Note: there is always a second tier of players that involves scoring wingers, defensive specialists, veteran leadership, coaching staff and positivity.

          These are where GM leadership comes into play.

          Statistics are extremely over-rated.

          Stats can not predict Jonathan Quick or Tim Thomas playoff heroics. Most times it is heroic performances that determine championships.

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Chris says:

          Have you ever talked to a junior- or NHL-coach? I can assure you that your assertion that “data only matters to micro thinkers” is simply wrong.

          Data is part of the scouting process. Coaches have always been looking for more and more information to try and get an edge.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            Advanced stats are for micro thinkers.. That is what defines micro and macro.

            Ever hear the expression “don’t sweat the small stuff.”

            That is what advanced stats “experts” do, they seat the small stuff, over and over and over.

            I would argue that personality, lifetime goals, intelligence, family values, and drive are as big of a determining factor on a player as any “advanced stat.”

            Having studied advanced statistics quite extensively, I can tell you that the processes used in “advanced hockey statistics” May appear to be sound, the collection of data is flawed, and there are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many variables left out of most stats. In a business model an analyst can often identify and account for almost every variable impacting topic being analyzed. This is not the case for hockey.

            ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  56. Ozmodiar says:

    From the “faceoff set up winner” article:

    For the record, it was Daniel Briere who won the draw, and the Canadiens struggled in the faceoff circle with a 42-per-cent success rate.

    Don’t let facts get in the way. :roll:

  57. shiram says:

    Bruins President Cam Neely issued the following statement:

    “The racist, classless views expressed by an ignorant group of individuals following Thursday’s game via digital media are in no way a reflection of anyone associated with the Bruins organization.”

    http://bruins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=717661

  58. BriPro says:

    Hi All!

    A few observations about last night.
    First, what a great victory, considering our Habs lost many of the battles. I haven’t done the jig in a while, but I couldn’t help myself. And I think I woke the neighbourhood.

    After the goal by PK, did anyone notice who jumped on him first? Bourque. Can you tell how motivated this guy is? Where was he all year? He’s turned into quite the force to contend with. Every time a faceoff was in our end, I was hoping that MT would put the Eller line on, because they’ve been the most imposing and in-your-face, and a shoe-in to clear it out of our end.

    The DD line? I would think that Vanek and Max practiced this morning, since it was only for those who didn’t play last night. And poor DD, how many times did he completely disappear after being plastered against the boards by Chara?

    Finally, the Montreal media can create their own crowd in a dressing room, but to watch Carey being hoarded and interviewed after the game, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a large media group, including at the Super Bowl. “Poor Carey” I thought, let the guy go so he can go get some sleep.

    A great start. And it helps in my prediction of the team winning in 6. But team A has to show up. That means they’ll have to shake the rust out.

  59. JUST ME says:

    I do not think that the Habs need to practice as much as they need to rest and to look at quite a few horror video sequence … A few adjustments here and there and who knows for tomorrow ? I trust this group to be able to raise once again to the challenge and keep on giving the efforts necessary as they did almost everytime that we thought a mountain was in front of them.

  60. Mattyleg says:

    Sentence in the Boston Globe article:
    “Repetitive punches to the head eventually lead to a knockout blow.”

    …or supporting the Bruins.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  61. DuckDodgers says:

    If Subban scored a big goal against the Leafs or the Sens, it’s doubtful it would unleash as much very base, racist, hateful reaction as is on display in Boston. Boston-not-so-strong. Demons.

  62. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I was disappointed at the CBC intro last night, it highlighted Zednik getting decapitated by Kyle Maclearen, and Max getting run by Chara…. Why stop there? Why not throw in Koivu getting his eye damaged, Auddette getting his wrist slashed, Traverse with the puck off his throat, Zednik and Malarchuk getting throats slashed by a skate..

    ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  63. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I’ve always said that Boston fans are racists & I say it based on Boston(Bruins)fans that I know. To a man, they use the “N” word when talking about Subban. I feel the same way about Don Cherry, Mike Millberry & other jerkoffs like that. Sad to say but I also feel that the Red Sox & Bruins used the Boston Marathon bombing last year to generate sympathy from all over. Always hated their fans, even more today. The hell with them all.

  64. DuckDodgers says:

    Part of the calm before the storm, but after Storman. What’s that smell?

  65. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Look at the picture at the top. Remember when the media and some people thought pleks hated Subban! Lol.

  66. FANHABULOUS says:

    2nd star!

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  67. Storman says:

    I just farted and i am first to do so

  68. D Mex says:

    Great suggestion – he’s a wonderful singer !

    ALWAYS Habs -
    D Mex

  69. Danno says:

    Where the heck is Charles Prevost-Linton?

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  70. Le Jadester says:

    I know?
    He’s great too!

    Habs, OLE !

  71. DuckDodgers says:

    Every town being alike is like every mayor being alike. Mayor Jim Keegstra of High River taught his high school students the Holocaust was a fabrication, and several of the students affirmed they believed these lessons to be factual when interviewed by W5 investigative reporters. And you thought I was going to bring up Rob Ford, which I just did.

  72. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I think what You are inferring is unfair CJ

  73. CJ says:

    I’ll never forget him saying that. Freudian slip IMO.

  74. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …again, totally unfair

  75. Un Canadien errant says:

    I always thought it he misspoke, tried to say ‘right’ but said ‘white’. I have a hard time believing he has a mean bone in his body, let alone some ugly thoughts like that.

  76. CJ says:

    Out of respect for you both, I’ve requested that my comment be deleted. I too have misspoken, although I’ve never made that kind of mistake. I will however extend the full benefit to Mr. Pang. Regards, CJ

  77. Habfan10912 says:

    Agree that the Bruins response was both appropriate and seemingly sincere.

    Not sure why you felt the need to insult HIO posters though.

  78. chesterfiled says:

    Cheers! Smug and sanctimonious, uh don’t know, but hate reading posts that run the lines of ‘where are all the trolls now’ or ‘where are all the posters who called for trading so-and-so’ after so-and-so show up big after a good proportion of the season playing sub par.

  79. boing007 says:

    You forgot the Quebec Civil Service.

    Richard R

  80. Butterface says:

    My guess is because hockey is the only majority “white” major professional league sport in North America…..so maybe when a person of colour does well, the ignorant lash out.

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  81. Chris says:

    I’m going to enjoy this…

    83.1 Off-side – Players of the attacking team must not precede the puck into the attacking zone.

    The position of the player’s skates and not that of his stick shall be the determining factor in all instances in deciding an off-side. A player is off-side when both skates are completely over the leadingedge of the blue line involved in the play.
    A player is on-side when either of his skates are in contact with, or on his own side of the line, at the instant the puck completely crosses the leadingedge of the blueline regardless of the position of his stick. However, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the blue line.

    It should be noted that while the position of the player’s skates is what determines whether a player is “off-side,” nevertheless the question of an “off-side” never arises until the puck has completely crossed the leading edge of the blueline at which time the decision is to be made.

    If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.

    Guess who is ridiculous? :)

  82. Danno says:

    Did any of those players have garbage thrown at them after they scored a goal? Were they subjected to insults and death threats online or otherwise?

    I still think this is way different. But that’s just me.

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  83. Un Canadien errant says:

    Patrice Bergeron is constantly praised on here, on RDS, on TSN, on HNIC, because he’s an excellent hockey player, but keep grinding that axe.


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