Habs beat Hurricanes 6-0 in Quebec City

It took three games, but the Canadiens finally have their first preseason win after pounding the Carolina Hurricanes 6-0 Friday night in Quebec City. The two teams will meet again Saturday at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., RDS) and Mike Boone will be blogging live on HIO.

After playing their first two preseason games – losses to Buffalo in a shootout and Boston – in front of sellout crowds at the Bell Centre, there were only 10,139 in attendance in Quebec City. The Canadiens attracted more than 15,000 fans when they played preseason games in the provincial capital in 2009, 2010 and 2011.

The fans in attendance Friday night booed former Canadiens defenceman Mike Komisarek, who signed with the Hurricanes after being bought out by the Toronto Maple Leafs, every time he touched the puck. Komisarek, who signed a five-year, $22.5-million contract with the Leafs before the 2009-10 season, now has a one-year, $700,000 deal with Carolina.

Greg Pateryn, Alex Galchenyuk, David Desharnais, Michael Bournival, P.K. Subban and Max Pacioretty scored for the Canadiens, while  Peter Budaj and Dustin Tokarsky combined for the shutout. Galchenyuk played centre on a line with Brandon Prust and Christian Thomas.

Saturday’s game will be the fourth in as many nights for the Hurricanes.

The Canadiens should have something resembling the opening-night roster Monday when the New Jersey Devils are at the Bell Centre. The exhibition schedule concludes with back-to-back games against the Senators Wednesday in Ottawa and Thursday in Montreal.

(Photo by Jacques Boissinot/The Canadian Press)

Habs jump all over Hurricanes, by Pat Hickey

Veterans lead the way against Hurricanes, by Pat Hickey

Habs take flight in Quebec City, Canadiens.com

Habs lineup for Saturday’s game, Canadiens.com

Fans’ love affair with Habs grows stronger, by Stu Cowan

Four former Habs on new season of Battle of the Blades, Stu on Sports blog

Halak excited to be back on ice with Blues, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Veteran Dvorak eyes spot on Hurricanes roster, carolinahurricanes.com

367 Comments

  1. Maritime Ronn says:

    One item Coach Therrien mentioned about Alex Galchenyuk was that, ” He was going to have more responsibilities this year.”

    That statement was somewhat cryptic and open ended.
    What did it mean?
    Perhaps this?

    Galchenyuk played on the 1st Unit Penalty Kill last night.
    (Moen-Plex-Eller did not dress)
    Will that carry over to the season, and is this is what Coach Therrien meant…and WHY not?

    Last year, the Habs ranked 23rd on the PK, and was 1 of only 2 teams that did not score a short handed goal.

    During the last complete NHL season, the NJ Devils lead the NHL in PK and the ‘spirit breaking’ Short Handed goals with 15.

    Their 1st Unit PK was Zack Parise and Zubrus followed by Elias and Henrique – all excellent skating, offensive threats that change an opponent’s PP thinking.
    A mistake with these guys on the ice could end up being a goal.
    We had nothing of that last year.
    Habs need to be more aggressive on the PK and put some fear in an opponent’s PP.

    The 23rd ranked Habs Top 4 PK forwards in minutes played last year was this.
    In order:
    Moen-Plex-Prust-Eller.

    Move Moen out, and put Galchenyuk in that spot with Plex and there will be a lot more worry going on for an opponent.

    Face-offs and puck control on the PK are key.
    If Plex is booted out of the Faceoff circle, a natural Center like AG then takes the draw.
    While these numbers are both subpar, when Moen had to take a faceoff, he was 40% last year.
    AG was 42.8%, and with added strength and experience, he can only get better.

  2. Bill says:

    Pacioretty’s game has never changed. He’s always been a sniper from the slots and the dots. In so doing he has led the team in scoring for two straight years. This whole idea of him crashing the net and playing mean is just a fantasy of fans who think that’s the only way to play. It’s not Pacioretty’s game and there is nothing wrong with his game as it is.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I am likely the least astute observer on this site, but last year he seemed content to shoot from bad angles and from far away when I would have thought that he could have made more of a push to the net. I think I was expecting him to take a step up, but I thought he took a step back. However, I admit that he puts up the points, so I am probably wrong.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Bill

      Max just has to stay healthy (he plays hurt often)-play for Team USA in the Olympics, and play the skill game he knows as you mention above.
      Perhaps several forget he’s only 24 with a bargain basement Cap Hit of only $4.5M for the next…6 years.
      He is at least Assistant Captain material

      http://www.capgeek.com/player/95

      The Leafs can have their 29 year old/$37.750M dollar man in David Clarkson that they will regret in not more than 3 years.

  3. frontenac1 says:

    @habfab. Last night in Glasgow amigo.Heading home tomorrow. I’ve got a new appreciation for Rugby. Still can’t stand Soccer.

  4. Bill says:

    @24Cups: A lot of people voting not only probably couldn’t answer your question, but couldn’t articulate a good reason for Galchenyuk to play centre this year.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      What’s for tiffin this aft?

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • johnnylarue says:

      Those survey results are… not encouraging. Hell, if the team was in the first year of yet another rebuild, I’d say go for it–throw the kid in with the sharks and let him fend for himself, Huberdeau-style.

      As it stands though, the Habs already have a relatively competitive team, and the luxury of letting Chucky adapt to the pro game at a less aggressive pace and gradually increasingly his level of responsibility as he develops.

      One would think most sane GMs and head coaches would drastically prefer this model of low-pressure player development. But I suppose one would have to be a sane GM or head coach to know for sure, wouldn’t one!

  5. Fransaskois says:

    Considering this will be my first post in nearly two months, I thought I’d make it a contentious one….

    If there’s one forward in Montreal who escapes reproach and trade proposals, it’s MaxPac. The wolverine, the leading scorer, the only forward on our team with any size! All wonderful attributes to have but, can he do more? Is Max Pacioretty a difference maker?

    Over the past season, and during this camp/preseason, we have seen Max attempt to incorporate a new element into his game – perimeter play. We were all so impressed with his ability to drive the net during his time playing alongside Cole, why the change? I’ve seen Pacioretty evolve from a gritty-passer in his junior years, a possession-driver in his time in the AHL, a power forward with a nose for the net during the season before last, and now I believe he plays as a complimentary scoring forward/sniper. When was the last time we saw Pacioretty driving the play? Creating chances? Being involved physically? He is currently playing a one-dimensional game when he is truly a multi-faceted offensive player. I think Pacioretty is ready to incorporate all of these skills and abilities and take himself to the next level.

    I think it’s time for Patches to be the go-to guy on offence and the only way for this to occur is by cutting the cord between Pacioretty and Desharnais. Max is ready to take the next step from being used as a line mate, to a player who uses his line mates. He’s ready to take a leadership role on the team in terms of creating and finishing offence.

    So, I think now’s the time to quit accepting excuses for inconsistent play and poor defensive play. I think he’s ready to start growing with our future #1 centre and helping make Galchenyuk into the elite scoring player he should be. If we want our young players to succeed, it needs to start with our scoring leaders showing them how.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I’m always going to stick up for Max. He did allow in interviews early in camp that he has heard it from his Twitter followers, he’s aware that they want him to drive the net more.

      One consideration is that scorers like Max look for open space to operate. With Brendan Gallagher on his line, is it possible that he finds open space in the periphery, since Brendan is always mucking it up in front of the net and dragging defenders with him? Brendan plays the way he plays, occupies the front of the net, regardless of his stature deficit, and Max circles around off the slot and waits.

    • Harditya says:

      You make a good point. Patches has another level to his game, much like Price, that we haven’t been exposed to yet in the NHL. We’ve seen their abilities to take over a game, but it seems to be missing when it’s needed the most. This is the deciding factor of exactly how good these players can be. They’ll ultimately need to steal the show in post-season to have any sort of credibility among fans. Because neither have done much in the playoffs so far (though Patches has only played in playoffs once, to be fair to him). Price, in my mind, was fantastic in Game 2 and 4, but that’s the issue. They need to dictate throughout the entire playoffs. That’s what brings credibility. I have no doubt in my mind they can do it. I just hope it’s in Montreal.

  6. HabFab says:

    de la Rose had an assist today. That makes 3 points in 4 games. Not a bad start for a 18 year old 2-way player in his rookie First Division season.

  7. Bill says:

    @JustMe: maybe you don’t realize that “us Montreal fans” aren’t a single entity, and that some of us have different opinions. I’m not being inconsistent about wanting Prust to fight less. I’m also not one of the guys begging the Habs to sign more tough guys. I don’t like fighting in general, not in hockey, and definitely not for valuable members of the team. Good way to get injured and not be able to contribute meaningfully, just my opinion.

  8. HabFab says:

    I don’t remember seeing this earlier but Moen is on the Injured List now. Day to day, lower body.

  9. frontenac1 says:

    @Timo. Amen amigo. Nature’s Laws can’t be messed with.Slainte!

  10. 24 Cups says:

    64% of HIOers think Galchenyuk should play centre this year? Which centre would he replace and if he did move over who would play left wing?

    I think next year is a much better timeline for Galchenyuk’s gig at centre.

  11. HabFab says:

    Renaud Lavoie @LavoieRenaud

    Coyotes cut Guillaume Latendresse. He had a good camp but Coyotes have other options.

    Poor Gui, is he washed up before 30?

    • Timo says:

      He should lay off donuts and beer. I believe he can greatly benefit from being in Michael Therrien’s Personal Development Program.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Lats has made 10M during his short career. The average person would be lucky to make 2.5M over a lifetime. I wonder how much he has left?

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      We’ll see if he has the gumption to find a job at the AHL level and play his way back onto an NHL roster. He has great size and skill, if he can overcome injuries and be in good physical condition, there’s no reason he can’t. He just has to accept that he’s no longer a frontline player in anyone’s estimation, that he has to work his way back from the bottom.

      • Da Hema says:

        His problem will be precisely to “accept he’s no longer a frontline player.” I never considered Latendresse to be one in the first place, but that is not his fault. His career trajectory is a perfect example of the dangers of elevating a promising player to the NHL at too young an age. Carbonneau and Gainey ruined his career by doing so. In my opinion, their decision led to Latendresse having a disproportionate sense of entitlement. Perhaps more objectively, Latendresse failed to learn how to play like a professional. I recall former assistant coach Perry Pearn, obviously frustrated, grabbed Latendresse during a practice and planted him in front of the net — telling him that is where he is supposed to go. It is embarrassing that an NHL player at the age of 22 had to be treated like a child. But the blame for Latendresse’s failure to develop his hockey potential should be directed towards Carbonneau and Gainey.

        • PrimeTime says:

          BS. Excuses don’t cut it. He’s had several chances to become a professional.

          • Da Hema says:

            BS PrimeTime? Everything I wrote is “BS?” Where was I providing “excuses?” I was simply placing forth an interpretation of where his professional career became derailed. If you don’t agree with the substance of my claims, then the adult thing to do is to respond with counter-arguments.

  12. Un Canadien errant says:

    I didn’t know anything about Akim Aliu beyond the fact that he had a cool name, and took the time to read up on him. His Wikipedia entry is fascinating.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akim_Aliu

    I remember that whole Steve Downie encounter in junior, I’d kind of forgotten that as one of the reasons I dislike that guy. Good on Akim Aliu for standing up for himself and refusing to go along with these mindless hazing rituals, which have to be stamped out of minor hockey. There’s hazing and then there’s abuse, and it appears that the Junior Hockey world maybe doesn’t understand the difference.

    Unfortunately though, Mr. Aliu had to live through it, endure the consequences, and that can’t have helped his career. With his cultural background, it’s not hard to understand that he has had difficulty integrating into the NHL and realizing the potential he has if only due to his physical gifts.

    As it is, I’m glad the Bulldogs are giving him a shot, he has lots of AHL experience, can play a little bit, will bring some physicality to support Nick Tarnaski and Stefan Fournier and others in that department. If he starts to put things together, which is admittedly a long shot, we’ll have first crack at signing him to an NHL contract.

    Especially now that I know a little more about this young man, I can’t help but wish him the best of luck.

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    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  13. thebonscott says:

    @bill: agreed with you bill, Prust is a very solid player, excellent on the penalty kill, and can score 10 goals a year. His fighting needs to be decreased, i worry about his shoulder. Leave it to Parros and if necessary tarnasky, who could replace moen.

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  14. frontenac1 says:

    Asking Prust not to fight? You’re kidding,right? Ain’t going to happen amigos.Its in his blood.

  15. thebonscott says:

    @thedude: you forgot gionta at 5 million, that makes 25 million

    Are you ready for the bee-sting, Subbang!!!!

  16. Un Canadien errant says:

    Regarding the relatively low turnout at the game in Québec last night, the high cost for tickets for an exhibition game in which nobody knew who the Canadiens would play certainly played a factor. If I’m a casual fan counting my dollars, maybe hearing that P.K. and Alex Galchenyuk will be in the lineup convinces me to attend, and sure enough there was a bit of walkup ticket sales.

    One point the RDS crew made is that the Québec fans may be a little sour about the Coyotes staying in Phoenix. They hoped and dreamed and began to take it for granted that they would not get a deal in Glendale, and when that was resolved it popped the balloon a little bit.

    Another point made is that the fans have nothing to prove, they traveled to New Jersey and Uniondale by the busload to make their case, and the arena is being built right now. That’s the real proof of the pudding.

    ———————————————————————–
    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  17. jrshabs1 says:

    Fighting is part of Prust’s game, as long as he doesn’t have to fight the other teams tough guy everynight. Too bad Price crapped the bed in the T.O. game last year..Prust being the fearless pugilist that he is should have turned the game around after fighting Mclaren to a draw.
    Go Habs Go!!

  18. Bill says:

    Mixed reaction to the Prust fight yesterday. My view is that he is too valuable a player to fight as much has he has done the past couple seasons.

    He’s not the enforcer anymore. That’s Parros’s job. In the preseason, it’s the job of the various knuckle-men currently auditioning. Not Prust’s, not anymore.

    Prust is gonna fight because he’s fearless, and I think he likes it. But it should be rarer this year.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Agreed. He brings toughness and will cool the ardor of some of the other teams’ goons, but he’s actually useful on the ice, we need him there instead of in the penalty box or injured.

      I think that fight last night was his training camp, his tune up. As others have observed, he was giving a young kid a shot. Let’s have Nick Tarnasky do that the rest of the way.

      • jrshabs1 says:

        Tarnasky didn’t even throw a punch..he took 2… down he went. Markov could have had a better showing.

        Go Habs Go!!

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          My point isn’t that Nick Tarnasky has shown he’s better at it than Brandon, just that if there have to be staged fights, for minor leaguers to impress their bosses, it shouldn’t be Brandon who takes up the challenge and risk injury. He’s harder to replace.

          That was an awkward fight last night for Mr. Tarnasky, let’s give him another chance or two before we judge him. He’s headed to Hamilton anyway.

    • piper says:

      I think Corrente asked Prust for the fight to show the Cane’s brass what he can bring. Brandon being the kind of guy that he is, gave him the opportunity.
      I agree with you though, that should have been Tarnasky’s job.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Totally agree!

      We probably agree on the description of “valuable”.

      It is not so much his hockey skills. It is what seems to come across both on the ice and in the images we see of the intermingling of players.

      Prust on the ice reassures all that someone has their backs..and he has seemed to have instilled that that someone is ‘everyone’ led by HIM. Whereas people knew someone like Staubitz would have stood up for them, they now ‘join’ in that responsibility to each other. He also is versatile and useful enough a hockey player that is presence is important as a contributing factor in the play.

      One important aspect… he makes others better when he is their linemate. I dont know if it is confidence or his humility which makes him a source of confidence to others.

      He also seems to have a ready smile for the other players. Seems very affable and engaging with ALL players and does not seem to align himself too intricately to any small group. A great available ‘confidant’ maybe.

      I hope he stays healthy.

    • JUST ME says:

      Sometimes Montreal fans are so difficult to understand. You want to have players that can defend themselves and their teammates and when you do, you want him to settle down. It is in Prust`s blood to drop`em here and there and he does not chose who he will take and who he will not take. We have to live with that he his a warrior and this way he must remain.
      He has teammates now that will prevent a few fights here and there but the next thing you know is he will get blamed to play like Moen does. Let it be !

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        I didn’t see the circumstances under which Prust dropped his gloves, but I would tend to agree that unless the other team did something blatant it’s not worth taking the risk and getting injured in a meaningless pre-season game.

  19. durocher says:

    If Bournival and Tinordi make the team (which is likely, especially for Tinordi), who gets bumped/traded for the roster spots?

    On forward (13), we already have Pacioretty, DD, Gally11, Briere, Gio, Bourque, Pleks, Eller, Gally27, Prust, Parros, White, Moen. Even if White is the odd-man out, that would only make Bournival #13. Someone else would have to be out to make room for Bournival getting playing time. My suggestion: make White/Parros #13, trade Moen. To be even more bold, White could also be moved to make room for Dumont (who we may lose to waivers). I’d rather lose White than Dumont, who has a bigger upside.

    On defense (6), we already have Gorges, Subban, Markov, Diaz, Cube, Murray. This does not take into account Emelin (injured until December) or Drewiske (who is injured, and would be a depth D anyway). My suggestion: trade Diaz; he’s soft and has been underwhelming in the preseason.

  20. Un Canadien errant says:

    This game was a palate cleanser, after a sour shootout loss against the Sabres, and a bitter drubbing against the Bruins, whose rookies and AHL’ers were much better than our AHL’ers. On this night, the Canadiens came out flying, took advantage of a struggling Cam Ward to fill the net in the first, and cruised to a 6-0 win. It could/should have been 10-0.

    Now, I come here to bury Mike Komisarek, not praise him. Poor guy. On paper, he’s everything that we slavered for over the last couple of seasons, a 6’4″ 240 lbs defensively-oriented blueliner, one who shoots right to boot. The reports out of Toronto from educated observers were that he just plain can’t play no more, but I’d ignore these and rely on the tale of the tape, envision how he’d fit into our roster of slick undersized puck-movers. He’d plug some giant holes and bring a skillset we didn’t have, I thought, and after adding a splash of career-rejuvenation derived partly from no longer being subjected to the suffocating english media in Toronto, and partly from the steadying presence of Andrei Markov, we’d have a perfectly serviceable d-man to play on our third pairing and kill penalties, and maybe crosscheck a Wayne Simmonds or Chris Neil in the teeth occasionally. I militated for a swap of buyout candidates, that we’d take Mr. Komisarek off their hands if the Leafs would accept the dried husk of what used to be Tomas Kaberle, who admittedly was never much good to begin with.

    After watching replay after replay of his gaffes and ineffectual efforts on RDS’s broadcast of the game, with the announcers doing their best to be diplomatic but unable to avoid the reality of the situation, I now believe those who say that he, almost inexplicably, has cratered in terms of having a useful role as an NHL defenceman. The change of scenery in Carolina isn’t going to be a magic career elixir, apparently. A couple of times, I’d see a player like Christian Thomas or Patrick Holland, fringe prospects who I’d like to do well, and they’d show some speed or skill, a flash, and I’d get excited, only to realize it was poor old Mike who was making them look so good, looking comparatively slow and unsteady.

    This was the Hurricanes third game in three nights, and we have to assume that the travel was partly to blame for them coming out flat, but they can’t rely on that as an excuse, in that their roster has quite a few eager rookies who should be fighting for an NHL salary, and you can’t claim fatigue this early in training camp. They seemed dispirited, disjointed, and I felt bad for Kirk Muller behind the bench. I wondered if the Hurricanes should be the dark horse for finishing last this year, kind of like I’d called the Calgary Flames last year, but any team with Eric and Jordan Staal and Cam Ward has to be better than that, right? Even while dragging around the anchor known as Alex Semin, who didn’t exactly give all out effort in this particular game?

    The star of the night was P.K. Subban, who paradoxically had a startling giveaway from behind his net to a Carolina forward in the slot (Wayne Gretzky couldn’t have fed Jarri Kurri any better) as his most memorable play, but was overall a force. He skates hard, he’s fast and powerful, he’s a beast at both ends of the rink, and tonight finished with a goal and two assists. Some outside observers think his Norris Trophy is only due to his impressive point production, and it’s hard to argue that those who vote on awards are on the ball after they voted Alex Ovechkin on the All-Star team as a left and right winger, but I would wager that P.K. will have a monster season and convert a lot of doubters. They’ll see a complete defenceman, a guy who dominates games and eats minutes that other teams won’t have an answer for. Strategically, the Canadiens will have to ensure that other teams don’t try to goon him out of the game, because that might be the only tactic they can resort to to slow him down.

    Michaël Bournival added another goal and an assist to his two goals against the Sabres, while Mike McCarron hit a post on a good scoring opportunity. This is a results-driven business. Two seasons ago, Brendan Gallagher was the talk of the camp, with his now familiar combination of all-out effort, courage and skill drawing the attention of the Canadiens’ brass. He buzzed all over the opposition in pre-season action, but never managed to pot a goal, and he was eventually sent back to his junior team. Had he driven home a couple, would he have stuck? And now, with Mr. Bournival flying all over the ice but also cashing in his opportunities, can the Canadiens send him back down to Hamilton? Not that he and Mike McCarron were on an equal footing to possibly earn a spot on the team out of camp, but because the former is burying his chances, it’s him we’re talking about, not Mr. McCarron or Christian Thomas or Patrick Holland.

    One factor we need to consider is that while Michaël Bournival is not eligible for waivers for another two seasons, Gabriel Dumont will have to go through them to be sent down to Hamilton. While Mr. Dumont hasn’t had any tangible results offensively, he’s shown the effort and generated chances with linemates of dubious talent for the most part. I suspect the team will not risk losing him on a waiver claim, his playing style and the results he’s shown as a Bulldog and during his cups of coffee with the Canadiens make him a coach’s favourite. If anyone stays, it will be Gabriel Dumont I believe. Mr. Bournival will be asked to show that he can keep up this pace in the AHL until injuries strike.

    Among the few veterans in the lineup, it was good to see David Desharnais and Max buzzing around in the opposition zone all night. We need a bounce-back season from David, if we’re going to contend. It’s early yet, but we saw glimpses of the David from two seasons ago, with quickness and agility, who competes for the puck with his smarts and anticipation, and somehow beats much bigger opponents along the boards with his mobility and cleverness.

    On the blue line, we saw encouraging play from prospects Greg Pateryn, Darren Dietz and Magnus Nygren. Again, it’s important to take into account how poorly the Hurricanes played, and their lack of spirit and effort, but it was good to see our trio of young defencemen be competent and show that the NHL isn’t out of the question for any of them.

    It will be interesting to see how the Hurricanes react in the second game of the back-to-back, whether they’ll put up more resistance. Certainly, it would be helpful if only to give our goalies some practice, as Peter Budaj and Dustin Tokarski combined for one of the easier shutouts they’ll ever earn.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      I disagree with your opening statement that the Sabres’ and Bruins’ rookies and AHLers were ‘much better’ than the Habs’.

      The Habs did fine against the Sabres, and lost in a shootout with the only goal scored being from Grigorenko who had been invisible for pretty much the whole game.

      Against the Bruins, the loss was due to a mix of things. The Bruins scored 4PP goals in great part due to Lucic-Krecji-Iginla, which is 1) very tough opposition and 2) a legitimate veteran NHL line. The other reason the Habs lost was that their roster was a mix of inexperience (young players – younger than the equivalent players on the Bruins) and limited offensive creativity (Tarnasky, Blunden, White, Moen aren’t going to push the play forward).

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Sorry Jedi, but I thought it was clear that it’s the Bruins’s AHL’ers I was referring to. And yeah, for the reasons you list and more, we endured a bitter drubbing.

        As far as the Sabres, I characterized it as a sour loss because of the way it happened, how we lost the lead four times, how we’d lose momentum after our goals and get deflated. And then lost it in the shootout.

        I did agree about Mikhail Grigorenko being invisible during the game, I characterized him as such in my game recap.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/09/pre-season-game-1-canadiens-4-sabres-5.html

        • jedimyrmidon says:

          Alright then.

          I watched that first pre-season game against the Sabres very curious about the youngsters. It didn’t seem like there anything like momentum to the game where a team could become deflated.

          What I do remember is the Sabres dressing virtually all their NHL goons/serious agitators (Ott, Kaleta, McCormick) against the Habs’ young prospects, which was classless, as if the youngsters were interested in anything other than playing hockey.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I was reading nicely and calmly. After all you were singing the praises of two players I like, Subban and Bournival.

      And then you said something which made me turn over the table, kick the dog out, eschew the wife, and close the blind which allows me full view of the neighbour’s bay window even as her ‘playing style’ was providing me a ‘netflix’ like opportunity for sensory stimulation. In other words I experienced a momentary aspostasy for the beauty in the world.

      I did read your entire post as you sir, are, approaching ‘must read’ stature. But I am mad and wont take it anymore.

      I am fed up with the inherent excuse under which the HABS have operated the last few years, and which you have trotted out again to explain why Dumont is better than the sum of his points. You like that ‘better than the sum of his points’? Rather cute if I may say so myself. But absolutely true.
      You say,
      “While Mr. Dumont hasn’t had any tangible results offensively, he’s shown the effort and generated chances with linemates of dubious talent for the most part.”

      Enough enough! Fed up with HABS running around the ice looking good but not affecting the scoreboard. Enough! And while I am at it, I will mouth a gnawing fear that’s been bothering me some. And I love this player. But if Gallagher doesn’t refocus his game and stop being the ‘overly character’ guy he may become one of those. Gawd I hope not.

      Anyways back to Dumont. Maybe he is talented.. maybe he’s not. But until he starts sticking it on the scoreboard I think his renowned industry may hide “dubious talent for the most part”.

      OK.. I am calmer now. Looking forward to your thoughts after tonight’s game.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I tried to phrase it as gently as I could trini, but the fact that Michaël Bournival is waiver-exempt and Gabriel Dumont isn’t doesn’t bode well for your boy. I see Gabriel Dumont as the fourth-line centreman, platooning with Ryan White based on the opponent, production, etc. He can serve us well there, whereas if Michaël is going to be confined to the fourth line, he might as well play first or second-line minutes in Hamilton and improve his game.

  21. zephyr says:

    I think tinordi, pateryn & bournival are the ones who have a shot to start the season. pateryn has played very well on d except for the pass to the slot (twice?) after being pressured coming around the net. bournival has been charlie hustle & reminds me of gallagher. he’s been finishing too. be interesting to see what happens 2nite. they’re all in the lineup.
    dietz has looked good too.
    not very impressed with thomas so far. collberg is still too young. McCarron is a beast & has some nice hands too but u can tell he needs to mature a bit yet. what is it called – growing into ur body? this guy looks like he could be the gem of the draft.

  22. montreal ace says:

    I really liked what I saw from Patrick Holland, he played a smart game last night and looked great.

  23. commandant says:

    The OHL East Division Preview. The division is full of top prospects, there are 5 teams, and could be 4 picks in the top 10 of the next draft and could be 5 first rounders
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/09/21/2013-14-ohl-preview-east-division/

    Canucks and Rangers fans discuss the early days of Torts/Vigneault
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/09/21/hi-jacking-a-canucks-vs-rangers-e-mail-thread/

    Go Habs Go!

    • Chris says:

      I can’t say I agree with your assessment of Gaunce, Ben. I have caught a ton of Belleville games over the past couple of seasons (my brother has season tickets) and he’s regressed in my opinion.

      He was a very big kid for his age at 16, and he looked like he was going to be an elite player. His high draft position (2nd overall behind Galchenyuk) reflected his offensive production at that age.

      After a promising rookie season, he put up a decent year as a 17 year old going into the draft, but it wasn’t quite where it should have been. He’s strong, he’s definitely got puck-skill…but he floats. I would say that he has been noticeable in perhaps a quarter of the games that I’ve seen him play. The rest of the time he has been almost invisible. As an 18 year old last year, he should have been vying for the scoring title in the OHL (many people had him doing just that at this time last year), but he never really got his teammates going.

      I’m sure he was hurt by Belleville’s defensive gameplan, but I just can’t agree that he never takes a shift off. I think he is all-too-guilty of not playing to his potential on a regular basis. The big knock on Guance is his skating…he’s not all that fast. It stalled what had been a nice career arc, and he’s a 1st round pick that I could easily see becoming an NHL bust.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        He’s caught in an interesting dynamic, in that the Canucks again have that hole at centre on their third line. All summer there has been speculation/daydreaming that one of Brendan Gaunce or Bo Horvat could win the job at training camp, with Mr. Gaunce being the favoured choice since he’d bring sorely needed size to the forward corps, and because he’s a year more mature.

        Trouble is, with the roster spot right there for the taking, neither players have shown that they really deserve it. Not only are they not ‘winning it outright’, they’re not really showing to be worth the risk of it being handed to them. Brendan Gaunce is doing okay, but most people think he should go back to junior, he doesn’t look ready for third-line duty.

        I got to the pub just as the game against the Oilers ended on Wednesday, and that’s what everyone was talking about, who will play on the third line. That, and Roberto Luongo, too.

        http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Vancouver+Canucks+youngsters+make/8939987/story.html

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        from: http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/vancouver-canucks/Canucks+spring+early+leak+season+setback/8930468/story.html

        The result really doesn’t matter, of course. More concerning for the Canucks was the fact that most of their youngsters, who are being given long looks in the pre-season, really haven’t shown much.

        Winger Nicklas Jensen, who was so good during the rookie camp in Penticton, was nearly invisible Wednesday. Bo Horvat and Hunter Shinkaruk, the highly touted first-rounders from this summer’s draft, weren’t much better.

        Shinkaruk and Horvat both finished the night minus-two and had just one shot between them (by Horvat). Jensen was held without a shot.

        Brendan Gaunce, who looked ordinary in Penticton, has been the best of the youngsters so far. Gaunce, Vancouver’s first pick in the 2012 draft, scored his second goal in as many games Wednesday.

        “I liked him, I thought he was steady today,” said Canuck assistant Glen Gulutzan, who ran the bench Wednesday. “He is a big body out there. He is a good young player. Playing left wing, too, I thought that line did a real good job.”

        The kids are running out of chances to impress new coach John Tortorella, who again watched the game from the press box area. Only four pre-season games remain and Tortorella is on record as saying he wants to use the final two to dress the team that will start the regular season on Oct. 3 in San Jose, Calif.

  24. punkster says:

    Good stuff on here today…some young guys have a decent camp, make a few good plays in meaningless games, against less than ready for prime time rosters and suddenly we should promote them all and dump a bunch of talented vets.

    Given the long list of players just mentioned today that some here want promoted immediately (Tinordi, McCarron, Pateryn, Bornival, Beaulieu, Collberg) do you think it’s possible a few of you may be wrong?

    Naaa…that’s not possible, is it?

    Still SUBBANGIN’ BABY…
    but…
    ELLER IS STELLAR!!!


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