Habs lose 6-2: Hickey’s game story

AUDIO: Carey Price | Jaro Spacek | Jacques Martin English and French

Goaltender Carey Price suffered a meltdown late in the second period and the Ottawa Senators rallied to beat the Canadiens, 6-2.

Price was having a good night until he surrendered a suspect goal to Jason Spezza at 15:33 of the second period. Price failed to seal off the post when Spezza launched a shot along the goalline. The puck struck Price’s leg and went in on the short side.

That tied the game at 2-2 and the Senators would add two more goals before the period was over.

The Canadiens missed a chance to regain the lead at 16:02 when Ben Maxwell was awarded a penalty shot after he was tripped up by Matt Carkner but Ottawa goaltender Brian Elliott made the save.

Nick Foligno managed to get behind the Canadiens’ defence to beat Price on a power play at 18:32 to break the deadlock and Bobby Butler scored on a penalty shot at 19:25. He was given a chance for the freebie after he was run down from behind by Josh Gorges.

Price, who is being counted on to be the Canadiens’ No. 1 goaltender in the coming season, gave up another goal to Spezza midway the third period while Foligno scorerd his second at 17:11 after turning Jaroslav Spacek inside out.  Price allowed six goals on  30 shots last night and has surrendered 10 goals on 39 shots in his two preseason appearances. That translates into a 6.67  goals-against average with a save percentage of .743. Those are not good numbers. 

The Canadiens had taken a 2-1 lead at 2:55 of the second period when Tomas Plekanec took a pass from Benoit Pouliot  and beat Spezza to the other end of the ice where he beat Brian Elliott.  The Senators missed an opportunity to match that goal two minutes when Price left a rebound during a Senators power play but Gorges lent a helping hand and stopped a shot by Spezza.

The Canadiens squandered some power-play opportunities in the period. They went 0-for-4, including a 5-on-3 advantage for two minutes.

The teams exchanged power-play goals in the first period.

The Canadiens struck first when Maxwell beat  Elliott with a shot off the rush from inside the left faceoff circle at 1:54. The Canadiens came up empty on three power-plays, including a two-man advantage for 36 seconds.

Ottawa got that one back when Chris Neil was credited with the goal when Mike Hoffman’s shot when through a maze of bodies in front of the net and found its way behind  Price.

The Canadiens lost the battle of special teams. They had one power-play goal on nine opportunities while the Senators went 3-for-7.

The Canadiens are back in action at the Bell Centre Sunday night at 7 against the Minnesota Wild while the Florida Panthers are the visitors on Monday. Montreal wraps up its preseason schedule with games Thursday at home against Buffalo and Saturday when they meet the New York Islanders in Quebec City.     

The Wild will arrive in Montreal without goaltender Josh Harding. He suffered damage to both his ACL and MCL ligaments Saturday night and will likely miss the entire season.  

378 Comments

  1. megagoten says:

    that “jason speza” totally took your breath away, didn’t he?

  2. Clay4bc says:

    Well, I agree with the post – but you already knew that, didn’t you…?

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  3. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    There’s no apostrophe in “comments”. Hope that helps. I think you’re doing great.

  4. sholi2000.com says:

    It’s pre season.  When he fails with the team in front of him playing for the win then I’ll be worried. 

    They Call Me Shane

  5. observer says:

    for once i agree with you. this price was an excellent goalie who gainey has mishandled and ruined for at least here. and right from early on by trading huet which immediately put the kid then under the first immense pressure here pressure that now is even worse here after gauthiers trade of halak.

  6. adam76 says:

    I for one, am worried.  This is the best team in 5 seasons – yet the most important position is failing hardcore.  How does that not worry you?

  7. 4loorplay says:

    cary should be sent to Hamilton and earn a starting job there first before he can come back up

  8. baruch says:

    Anyone who watched last night’s game will agree, Elliot made the big saves and Price, again, did not. It was the same story for the Boston game. If my son says “I kinda lost my focus after that bad goal” I guess I would be understanding, but I would still wonder how serious he is about continuing to be a professional hockey player. However, when I pay to see the Canadiens, I want to see skill, strategy and performance, not to sit there wondering what is going through any particular player’s head.   

    I am as tired of this debate as most, and I truly want Price to prove all the doubters wrong ASAP.  But if he is not going to take every game seriously, as seriously as we the fans do, he should have the common decency to go on some psychological IR for a while and allow us to cheer for a team we can believe in.

  9. nightmare_49 says:

      

       Boucher’s legacy – Arpon Basu – Daily Hab-it:

       http://dailyhab-it.blogspot.com/2010/09/bouchers-legacy.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=arponbasu

       Though Guy Boucher and his entire Hamilton staff are in Tampa Bay this season, there remain numerous vestiges of his one year within the Canadiens organization that remain.

  10. Captain aHab says:

    Yeah cause the game story certainly wasn’t Spacek crapping the bed all night long and Tinordi getting an assist on the Spezza goal. At least, Tinordi has inexperience as an excuse. Price wasn’t great but he was far from the story.

  11. nightmare_49 says:

       Brookie’s Sunday Slap Shots:

       Rangers waive goodbye to Redden

       by Larry Brooks

       http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/on_the_wade_out_DOBKvHfR5IS0zMMsaxZ3GM

       With Marc Staal, Dan Girardi, Michael Del Zotto and Rozsival ensconced as the top four, the battle for the final two or three blue line spots will be contested among incumbent Matt Gilroy, rookie pro ‘Ryan McDonagh’, tryouts Alexei Semenov and Garnet Exelby and rookies ‘Pavel Valentenko’ and Michael Sauer.

      

  12. adam76 says:

    Sorry – 2 am is not the best environment for proper spelling.

     

    Any comment’s on my actual post?

  13. nightmare_49 says:

       Steve Simmon’s Sunday rant is breief this weekas far as the NHL is concerned, which will make some people happy:

       – The New York Rangers missed an opportunity Saturday. They placed defenceman Wade Redden on waivers. They should have done the same for the retired but still working general manager, Glen Sather

       –  The once highly touted John McFarland didn’t even get into an exhibition game with the Florida Panthers before being sent back to junior. Wonder who his rather active parents blame for that.

       – Carey Price can control his own environment. All he has to do is play well and the Montreal fans will stop booing

       Read more of his sports rant:  http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_simmons/2010/09/25/15477146.html

  14. sholi2000.com says:

    I refuse to get excited about pre season.  Its fun to watch the kids play though.

    They Call Me Shane

  15. The Cat says:

    One has to wonder if itll ever be possible for Price to feel loosy goosy in Montreal. Im skeptical and it was Gaineys fault.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  16. gauver says:

    I think that he would still want to perform at a high level if he wanted to be traded; he would need to do so in order to drive demand for his services.

    I think that he is struggling to manage the weight of expectations.  I was hoping for a strong start so that he could get his doubters off his back and on his side.  Now, however, I am worried about the season.

  17. BJ says:

    Last nights Montreal A team really had a C performance. Other than Maxwell’s effort along with “Steady Pleky” and Gorges there was not much to cheer about. Weber and Spacek were disappointments. And no one of the young guys are ready to make the jump.

    The B team that beat Ottawa 4-2 the previous night has a lot more upside to it. Hopefully the combination of the B and A will give A+. But goaltending is a concern until Price gains his confidence back if thats what the problem is, hoping its not talent as despite all the assumptions that he has size and talent it hasn’t proven out for quite a while.

  18. BJ says:

    Hopefully we don’t see in the coming months the headline “Montreal Canadiens trade with Avangard Omsk for goalie Karri Ramo”. After watching last nights game; leading 2-1 and Price giving up a bad goal you saw the whole team reverse its momentum to a 6-2 loss, I really wonder if this goalie has what it takes not only to play in Montreal but in the NHL. A couple of comments by posters here at HIO have correctly pointed out that the skid has been going on since 2009. Its all well and fine to be working hard in practice and being a good team-mate but……. Even though the players are saying they are fully behind Price and believe in him, last nights reaction seems to indicate the contrary. When a goalie really has his teams confidence and lets a bad one in the guys pick it up to get it back. In Price’s case it seems as if the unconscious reaction is he let a bad one in, lets play on our heels he may let others in. I hope Price is correct in not worrying about the fact that these are pre-season games. I’m not particularly confident for the season opener in Toronto as it may dictate how we will perform as a team with Price in nets. I am not a Price basher or an ex Halak supporter, I’m a concerned Montreal Canadiens fan that will hopefully watch 82 games plus playoffs being entertained the way we were in May-June of 2010.  

  19. observer says:

    YEAH RIGHT! Great improvement – instead of 4 goals on 9 shots he now allows just 6 goals on 29 or 30 shots.

  20. observer says:

    kid? they expect seguin to be a top player this year and he was drafted 3 months ago. price was drafted FIVE YEARS 3 MONTHS AGO – stop calling him a “kid” when 18 year olds immediately can and do succeed in the NHL.

  21. observer says:

    NFL today. for him too in montreal “Not For Long”

  22. observer says:

    wont happen here. it will elsewhere. he wants out and has for a long time.

  23. observer says:

    the meltdown started in january 2009 and only continues now – either he can’t play anymore or he is purposely trying to get himself traded away. and the way he’s playing habs couldnt get squat for him.

  24. J Haul says:

    and I’m sure he will give that some thought, but why is he obliged to share ever detail with you? Give the kid some space to grow. It’s preseason…. I’m sure he knows what needs work, but everyone wants instant results.

  25. observer says:

    they “don’t pay attention to the rabid fans”? but cammaleri said after the playoffs, “we got a huge boost from the fans great support”? what they do do at least since january 1,2009 lose most of the time when price plays and win at a good winning clip when price doesnt play.

  26. J Haul says:

    I’ve had a few, but calling a guy out for having a “meltdown” in the
    preseason is ridiculous.If this has already been discussed, I’m very
    sorry… but cmon!

  27. observer says:

    price and the stubborn duo gainey and gauthier put price in this spot. i even still wonder if the only reason he signed so late was that price wanted out of here and now right from the word go is trying to force the issue and get himself out of town with a tidy new deal already in hand that if he drastically improves(which he will immediately do) will get him a huge raise elsewhere in 2 years or less. price has played gauthier like the fool he proved himself to be when he traded halak away. gauthier/gainey are soon history –  and it will be good riddance.

  28. pmaraw says:

    tell me why to put him up

  29. makka83 says:

    If Carey gets his shit together, what would you do then? You will need to file for some unemployment benefits.

  30. Everlasting1 says:

    I’m in the midst of concocting a recipe for a winning formula should Scarey Price frighten thru to the autumnal equinox and beyond.

    I shall place ye olde cast iron cauldron over le pit of roarin’ fires.. add Gainey, Goatier, Price, his agent, his goalie coaches, love potion #31, delicious flavored kool-ade crystals, fluoride, hair of brain, eye of newt, tongue of bat, copious amount of overpriced domestic beer..bring to a boil, stir, let simmer, cool till morns first light. Strain contents, pour into chalice, hold high and proclaim ..” Never will we be made to swallow this swill!”

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  31. Xtrahabsfan says:

    I’m a fan of Les Canadiens not just one player on the team and If memory serve’s me right ,last season you said the Habs would never make the Play-off’s with Halak and would go down in flame’s….so …you guess real bad,don’t you? When or if  Carey gets his shit together, then I figure you should too,eh!

  32. Stooof says:

    the funny thing is there are so many assumptions made about the teams mentality about thsi situation.  they have said on many occasions that they don’t pay attention to the rabid fans.  media makes it seem like a big deal but i bet the team is back there and thinking, well another day in the training bank.  nothing more nothing less. 

  33. Da Hema says:

    According to the Habs’s website, Pierre Groulx is both an assistant coach and goaltending coach.

    This link will take you to the site which provides a bit more detail about his background.

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  34. SeriousFan09 says:

    Jacques Plante always felt a goalie had to feel as little blame as possible about a goal, those who became too caught up in feeling bad about losing a game or nervous about that bad goal were due to self-destruct in his opinion. He felt to an extent, that was what happened with Habs legend Bill Durnan and then Gerry McNeil before he took over the job and resolved to be a master of his position, but not feel like he had to lose sleep over a bad game or goal. Price’s positioning was fine until he lost focus, so his task in practice will be to fortify his mental state when he’s between the pipes.

    Price showed improvement over the BOS game, making some saves and some bold play to cut off scoring chances. Obviously it deteriorated but it was a step forward for him, next outing for Price I am confident of a solid game and if I’m wrong, feel free to give me the “I told you so” treatment, that goes to all of you.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  35. rocketsglare says:

    Price states that he won’t “lose any sleep” after giving up 6 goals last night against the Senators.

    Okay, but he better give some thought how he plans on correcting his game, because so  far  he

    has looked unfocused and unsure of his play.

    His pre-season play hopefully will improve, because the start of the season is not the time to be-

    come ready. The Habs will need every point possible in the first month to month and half if they

    expect to be in playoff contention later in the season, when points become more difficult to get.

    If Price is struggling in his first 20-25 games and points are being squandered away as a result,

    then the team’s probability of making the playoffs become less certain. So how Price performs in

    the pre-season does have a barring how this team will fare in the end.

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

     

  36. bp says:

    Who’s the goalie coach this year in Montreal? Any articles or media on what the focus is this year? 

    Just curious as I’m hearing a lot out here in the Vancouver media about Melanson tweaking Lou’s game, having him play further back in the blue paint once the play has been established in the zone, trying to cut off the cross crease passes, etc. Be interesting to see if those changes stick over the year and whether they have any impact. 

     

  37. habsfansince91 says:

    i’m a huge arsenal fan myself and i can tell you one thing; I’m grateful that i decided to sleep in today instead of waking up early to watch that disaster!

  38. Say Ash says:

    And “13 in 20 when Price started”? Don’t I wish!

     

  39. HardHabits says:

    We have a winner!!

  40. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hmmm, I have Andrew and Clay on civil terms. Three weeks of my Conflict Management class have paid off!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  41. SeriousFan09 says:

    Need to have a guy out there who can actually QB a powerplay.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  42. andrewberkshire says:

    I think Price will be fine, he’s usually terrible in preseason if you look back. I thought he was pretty good tonight aside from the Spezza goal.

  43. MTLForever says:

    Need to get more goals on the powerplay, especially 5 on 3s

  44. Clay4bc says:

    I hear that…

     

    But on a more serious note…I’m really worried about Price. Rob will get his shit together, I’m sure…

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  45. light_n_tasty says:

    Havlak!?!  Ladies and gentlemen, the true identity of adam76 is none other than Donald S. Cherry.  Now things are starting to make sense…

  46. andrewberkshire says:

    I think JM needs to have a meeting with Rob, Spacek and Price and explain to them that more is expected from them. They’re all veterans now, and it’s time to put up or shut up!

  47. Rob says:

    And as I would say to your best friend, “WHOO THE #$%* IS MAN UNIIIIITED”

    The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

  48. Clay4bc says:

    I know man! What was he thinking, though?

    Good thing he has a few more days to iron out the kinks.

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  49. andrewberkshire says:

    Clay, can you believe this guy? Screwing up his routine already? Good thing it’s preseason, I don’t want Rob costing us any REAL games.

  50. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well as my best friend would tell you about your proper Football club issues, you’re not cheering for Man U, there’s your problem right there :p

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  51. adam76 says:

    That  “suspect goal to Jason Speza” is the real issue with Price.  That goal was a mental mistake.  That goal is the reason the rest of the team played a totally different style when Havlak was in nets last season.  That goal was the reason the team went 13 in 20 when Price started.

     

    Until he can figure why he lets in these embarrassing floaters – Prices career is all but done.  

  52. Rob says:

    Some more perspective: Carey Price allowing 10 goals in a game and of half pre-seaon games…not good.  But I am not losing sleep over this because this is far from disasterous.  On the other hand, Arsenal – the other love of my life – have dropped 5 points in two games to Sunderland and, just this morning, to WBA?!?!?!?  Excuse me if i’m having a hard time getting too worked up over the Habs perceived problems on this particular Saturday night.

    The Montreal Canadiens: sporting the best AND worst fans since 1909!

  53. light_n_tasty says:

    Pre-season had me rusty on jersey rotations, it won’t happen again.”

    Excellent.

  54. Clay4bc says:

    You bastard!

    You’d better get it right for the regular season…

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  55. SeriousFan09 says:

    Guys, I just realized tonight was my fault, I have not been properly rotating my jerseys. With a loss, I immediately swap jerseys but I didn’t wear one yesterday for the 4-2 win and stayed with the jersey I wore when the Habs lost to Boston. Rest assured, I will correctly switch to my 15-16 CA Jersey tommorow.

    Pre-season had me rusty on jersey rotations, it won’t happen again.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  56. HardHabits says:

    Totally!!

  57. Caballero says:

    The media and the fans and the management desperately needed to believe in a savior, and now that they have found a talented young man of 23 who is in fact lacking confidence they are disappointed because deep down, they were hoping Price would have won a cup by now. Goalies always give bad goals, look at Luongo. Goalies become consistent in their mid 20s. The reality is that Price will continue to give bad goals and play inconsistently for another 2 seasons minimum. Of course, all of this could have been avoided if he was brought up properly by the management. In Montreal, you have to be a winner when you get here. People in the media have asked why in places like Detroit, Boston etc… players make the jump to the NHL earlier and seem to develop properly. Well, Montreal is different. Hopefully after the examples of Price and Latendresse people who manage this team will have learned their lesson.

  58. SeriousFan09 says:

    This sounds like all my friends over the years who say they’re on their last cigarette ;)

    We know you can’t keep away, we’ll just start an informal pool about when you’ll be back :p

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  59. Chuck says:

    Yikes! That doesn’t bode well!   :)

  60. Harani says:

    I will not read the comments here until the Habs first home opener. Then, we’ll see how well Price will be playing. Really sick and frustrated of people complaining aimlessly all the time for a freakin’ pre-season. Relax, take a chill pill! Mark my words, Carey will be fine! Buh-Bye!. 

    “It must be love!”

  61. SeriousFan09 says:

    Say it ain’t so, the Quebecois Scotty Bowman, Guy Boucher’s TBL team just a 2nd pre-season game in SO! The winning CGY Flames did not dress Iginla, Bouwmeester, Regehr, Jokinen(I laugh too but he counts), Tanguay, Ian White and had most of their scoring handled by Defencemen TJ Brodie (Who?) and Ales Kotalik!

    TBL dressed all their potential Top-6ers in Gagne, Lecavalier, St Louis, Malone, Stamkos, Downie plus Ds Hedman, Kubina and Ohlund and their guy in net, the man who was out for Carey’s job, Cedrick Desjardins!!!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  62. crabvader says:

    I’ve said it before, I think the play in our back end will still be very frustrating to watch. Don’t get me wrong, we have some good talent back there… but all in all, we are an aged blue line and suspect to injury.

    I still think it’ll be a year or two before we cement our defensive core. If we are not scoring, we are done.

    We will live and die with our offence.

  63. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Carey Price ,our no:1 goalie better learn that he is the last line of defense ,once and for all…And he’s an elite N.H.L. goaltender who should and can do better than what he’s been doing for a while.I think his problem is he’s bored with hockey ,thus lacks focus and has  concentration issues.He’s lost his will to challenge the shooter and fails badly on second effort and when your the last thing that could stop a goal it’s a bad thing.Now some on this site would like to give him 150 games to fix his MOJO SAYING IT JUST A GLITCH…FINE-TUNING ect..I on the other hand think he need a year off and another team,a fresh start. I ‘ll be surprised if he can turn it around as a Hab but I’m sure he’d be great on a strong Defensive team like T.O..As for my Habbies…well they need a goalie  who can save the game…pull it out of the fire and show the passion of the Rocket!

  64. otter649 says:

    Vancouver looking good on CBC HNIC up 3-0 on The Ducks……..

  65. quentin_stuckley says:

    i don’t see how you can determine a player’s level of care in a 3 second sound byte.  most things said after a game are so cliche that they don’t really mean anything at all.  it’s about how he responds through performance.  team A(verage) hasn’t impressed as much as Team B(etter than Average).  that includes price, but others as well: cammy’s without a goal, anyone think he doesn’t care enough?  spacek’s coughing up the puck like hairballs from a sick cat, he spoke after the game, do you think he cares more than price?  the best thing about Team A(verage) has been the play of plekers and the flashes of palushaj.  most others are performing sub par, and that includes price.  i think he knows that, and i think he cares, would a tirade at the media convince you he cares more, or that the pressures getting to him more?

  66. B says:

    Perhaps he just picked his words poorly? I would like to think he cares and is competitive, but just doesn’t always give the best sound bytes. I remember the supposed calm cool guy crying in the dressing room after a bad game so just because he projects lackadaisical on the outside, does not mean he really is on the inside. That said, I can see where many folks would be concerned even if it is “only pre-season”. If he continues to struggle and show mental lapses through the rest of the pre-season, do they still hand him the start in the first real game?

  67. petefleet says:

    “It would have been nice to make some of those saves but I’m not going to lose any sleep.”

    If that staement doesn’t tell PG that he f#$%%^ up then I don’t know which one will.  The boy doesn’t care one way or the other.  

    Some of the other guys showed some great stuff (some didn’t) despite Price’s comments to the contrary.  Maybe the only way to lift himself up is to bring everyone else down.

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  68. Bill J says:

    He f***ed up ? do preseason wins mean anything ?

  69. Chuck says:

    It took him 5 years, and he needed a loaded Penguins lineup in front of him to do it.

  70. Bugs says:

    Dominic Hasek.

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  71. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well since Price is just about to enter his 4th professional season I don’t see how that’s relevant but since we’re playing Adam’s inflate numbers and revise history game than I guess it doesn’t matter.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  72. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Marc-Andre Fleury had about 3 or 4

  73. ZepFan2 says:

    Actually, it took him 5yrs. to win a cup. This after being sent back to the minors in his 4th yr.

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  74. observer says:

    does anyone get bell expressvu thru the phone line in montreal?

  75. jrshabs1 says:

    Keep your chin up son. Sorry it didn’t work out. Good luck with your future endeavors .

     

    HR department Montreal Canadiens Hockey Club.

  76. Caballero says:

    Moderator, oh moderator!

  77. Everlasting1 says:

    Why didn’t you have the sense to make this decision before we shipped off Jaro? Grr lol

     

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  78. Bill J says:

    You think judging Price now is logical, when half the team in front of him was not playing in the NHL last season ?

    I prefer to wait & see how things play out for Carey when he has a team of NHL teammates playing with him.

  79. Bill H says:

    I checked the ATDHE.NET feed last night and it was horrible.  It was pointless to watch because it was so choppy that you couldn’t tell what was happening.  Later, I watched the UFC fight and it was quite good.  I don’t understand why there is such a difference in quality. 

    I would like to check out some of our youngsters as it sounds like they are fired up and showing good potential.  Many will return to junior hockey or the Bulldogs and I am looking forward to seeing them when the Bulldogs come to Toronto. 

    It sounds like Eller has lots of potential and a great attitude.  He’ll be a gem in a couple of years.  Subban too, if the crowd doesn’t get too critical of his defensive lapses.

    Lots to look forward to this coming season.  There is great chemistry on this team.

  80. Caballero says:

    Great comment Bill, and I agree that it’s a shame that Price has become a source of 95% of the attention probably or more whereas we should be focusing on the promise shown by the youth. You have to admit though like I said below, these are not regular preseason games for Price.

  81. quentin_stuckley says:

    hear, hear. it’s the later preseason games that i’d put any stock in, like the last one.  by then the ‘not gonna make its’ will be sent to their respective clubs and the ‘might stick arounds’ will show even more.  too early to call in my opinion.

  82. quentin_stuckley says:

    boooooo!  isn’t that the protocol for whatever price does these days?

  83. Bill H says:

    You are bang on with your comment Bill.  Perspective is the key.  Life and death do not hang in the balance of these games.

  84. observer says:

    price is a guy who USED to be able to save a game when his team was outplayed. can’t do it anymore it seems.

  85. SmartDog says:

    I hate the Price-bashing as much as anyone.  It’s jeuvenile and doesn’t help.

    But if you want to speak intelligently about what’s happening and why it’s frustrating, that to me is different… and what I am going to do.

    For me, the problem with “I’m not going to lose any sleep over it”, is A) that we’ve heard stuff like that from Price for two years of up and down play, B) we KNOW it’s not true… you’d have to be out of your mind to not be bothered by letting in six goals even in an exhibition game (against a team half composed of AHLers) and C) this to me shows a kid who puts up a wall against the game, the fans, and against feeling ANYTHING, and that wall is indifference.  And THAT is what his play is like. 

    Price is not “mature”.  He’s a kid who knows how to blanket his anxiety under pressure.  But he can’t blanket the feelings he must have in this situation.  And THAT is what worries me.  He doesn’t need a coach as much as he needs a shrink. 

    I’m not going to lose any sleep over it?  Really?  When WILL you lose sleep Price?  After 3 bad exhibition outings?  After 5?  When?

     

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  86. quentin_stuckley says:

    i think it’s entirely possible that eller will make the team this year, so hopefully his shine will come sooner than later.  he seems poised, and from what i heard (i still haven’t found a good enough stream to see any games without ripping my hair out), he didn’t seem out of place with gio and scott “don’t call me gomer” gomez.  which is good, he should push pouliot to be as consistent as possible.

  87. mike g says:

    Good Sunday morning to all ya bunch of complainers!……

    Here’s my take on a couple of things goin on around the N…..

     

    -Marc Savard: Man I feel bad for this guy. Doesn’t matter that he plays for the Baaston Bruuins, his situation is one that nobody should have to face. Not being able to complete everyday tasks because your brain was slammed around harder than Paris Hilton in bed with 6 men on her birthday, is something nobody should have to go through. I really hope he’s able to get back to hockey soon, or one day at least, and still perform the way he did. Matt Cooke should not be the reason anybody is forced to retire early.

    -Guy Boucher: 2 straight losses as head coach of the 2010-11 Stanley Cup champs. In both those losses, his goalies have given up 10 goals. The next game will truly be a test to not only his mental toughness, but also his ability to coach, period. Some are now suggesting he was rushed up as a head coach in the NHL, and those same people are also wishing Rick Pizza-Tochett was back behind the Lightning bench. At least when Tampa lost with Tochett behind the bench, he still made money by gambling against the Bolts.

    -Tenderness: In what should be the most watched televised event in Quebec history tonight, local hero and icon Guillaume Latendresse makes his return to the Bell Center. Apparently, tickets for this game sold out in less than 3 minutes. Also, if anybody owns a fast food chain around the Bell Center, beware of a really annoying customer entering your place at around 10:30 pm tonight. He might be around 6 feet tall, look like a douche, say he’s from out of town, and in Quebecois language demand 7 Poutine’s right away. I urge you to serve him immediately. If you don’t, his crazy insane speed might force him to chase you behind the counter until he strangles you; he should make from the entrance to behind the counter in about 17 minutes.

    -Benny Pouliot: Dude, please call Reebok and tell them you are throwing all pairs of your skates in the trash can. I’ve never seen a hockey player fall as much as you do, ever. No matter what movement I see you doing, you fall. It’s very embarrassing, buddy. Please switch skates before people start booing you, too.

     

    And finally, RDS sucks big time. I’m thankful that they carry all Habs game during the year, but they’re a bunch of clowns. Friday night I was watching the game on RIS, and every singly 5 minutes I had to see their lead story: Latendresse will play in MTL on Sunday. Seriously guys, wtf is up with that RDS? Nobody cares, plain and simple. They even had him on the ticker on the bottom of the screen, which lists the top 3 stories of the day. WHAT??!!!! Like, they don’t even do that for Kovalev when we play Ottawa and we friggin’ protested for the dude to stay here! Now that I come to think of it though, maybe they were warning the owners of fast food restaurants like I did above…

     

    Bonne Journee!

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  88. Curtis O Habs says:

      After a long period of poor performance my employer would approach me with concerns of alcohol or substance abuse.

  89. CanadienBoy says:

    Bill you make to much sense keep up the good work !!

  90. observer says:

    youre right but the situation here created 100% by the 2 incompetant gms is like no other i ever saw this team have and i have been following the habs a long long time longer than most of you i am sure. i have never seen any canadiens player ever in a situation that price is now in – worsened even more so the day those fools traded halak away. this response by the fans was obvious to all the day it was announced that they kicked halak off the team for playing too well. and this will not end without big changes on this team.

  91. quentin_stuckley says:

    man, i wonder how immature i was at 22 – 23.  i bet i partied most nights, drank everyday, indulged in ludicrous behavior, and missed 25 percent of my classes.  i have to wonder because i can’t remember too much of it.  granted, i’m not a professional athlete, and i surely didn’t have the pockets that carey’s got, but i don’t think i really grew up until 25 or 26.  it stinks for some of these younger athletes that have to give up the excesses that most of us got to live through.  it was their choice, i agree, and price was rushed into action (a la ‘the flower’ in pittsburgh, who i use as a measuring stick for price), so he’ll have to grow up the hardest way.

  92. RetroMikey says:

    You cannot blame Price totally for his developement.

     The fault really should be blamed on the jackass who labelled him as the “franchise” player.

    And who was this jackass???

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  93. quentin_stuckley says:

    don’t have the source, and maybe it’s a figmentation of my own, but i heard somewhere that latendresse reported to camp heavier than ever.  maybe muscle, maybe water retention, that is unconfirmed.  

  94. coachdoug says:

    Very True…I have been most impressed with Maxwell…not sure if he is ready but he may be the hungriest guy trying to earn a spot…Tinordi and Leblanc are also coming along very well…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  95. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    I am not a part of the Price hate brigade, but I have to disagree with some of the points. This is not just an evaluation of the youth, that was rookie camp. This is also a chance for the players to get tuned up for the season, and as much as I have hope for Price, he has a lot of tuning yet to do.

    I had high hopes for the first game, and I was let down. I was hoping for a stronger message last night, and didn’t see it. I realize that these games are meaningless, but he’s got about a week and a half to totally turn his game around. Were all 10 goals his fault? Absolutely not. But, if we’re going to have a shot at the playoffs this year, Carey’s going to have to stop some breakaways and tipped shots and screened shots from the point. The team needs to play more consistently in front of him, but when they break down, we need him to make the big stops to keep us in the game.

    I’m not here to attack Price, and I know he’s still young, but that excuse doesn’t fly anymore. He’s the clear #1 goalie for the Montreal Canadiens this year. We don’t have a plan B. I’ll go into the next game with the same hope I went into last night, but I want to see some payback on this valuable hope I’m providing. In terms of my expectations, I want to see 2 great games for every bad game he plays. I’ll give him mulligans for the 2 meaningless bad games so far, but when the season comes, he gets 0 games of leeway.

  96. rated_R says:

    This link worked on friday. It’s the bell center scoreboard…no commentating…just live sound….its like being at a game. http://www.canoe.tv/endirect/?type=LCN2

     

    Live, Love, Habs

    Follow me on twitter. @habs4lyf

  97. coachdoug says:

    Unless you are Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan…or a roadie for the Grateful Dead…or the US Congress…

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  98. Psycho29 says:

    I hope you find work real soon…

  99. Bill H says:

    Very good point.

    Question: Would your employer then reveal to everyone else in the workplace as well as Gazette reporters the outcome of that discussion?

    We don’t know what concerns management has discussed with players.

  100. Caballero says:

    Maybe muscle maybe his inflated head. Not a big fan of Tenderness, it took him 30 seconds to start bashing the team when in reality he was too busy dating Quebec celebs to focus. I hope that the players make it a special point to shadow him. I don’t want this kid to score here and I am sure JM feels the same way. Does anybody know if Grabassky will be playing in the first offical game? That kid needs a beat down.

  101. Curtis O Habs says:

      I am sure Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan perform just fine.

  102. coachdoug says:

    Touche!

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  103. mike g says:

    Hmmm….

    Or maybe too many junk food restaurants in the United States. I was in LA this summer, and I buzzed out. If I’d live there, I’d be 400 lbs, easy.

    It’s really bad down there.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  104. Psycho29 says:

    You forgot to mention 47% and 88

  105. notbigbird says:

    I think he should lose sleep, but statements like that are pretty well meaningless sound bites IMO.

  106. Curtis O Habs says:

      Or what concerns a player keeps hidden from management.

  107. quentin_stuckley says:

    yes. yes it is.  outside of my work there is two fast food restaurants within 100 yards.  so cheap, so tempting, so cardiacally wrong.

  108. PrimeTime says:

    Quebec politics and the Montreal Canadiens. The correlation is eerie. The only games in towm and the same rebelious attitudes exist from those that bite the hands of those that provide…………………………………………………….”People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock

    The reason we are Hab fans http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1476

  109. quentin_stuckley says:

    on the plus side, he should be as slow as molasses in january.  that’s my father’s and probably other father’s as well.  but it’s sports talk and cliches are a….wait for it….dime a dozen.

  110. quentin_stuckley says:

    hilton: yeah.  lohan? if you can revive her from an alcohol coma.  talk about a sad, sad decline.  worse than price!

  111. adam76 says:

    Get what you pay for….

  112. quentin_stuckley says:

    ‘tune in rodeo, tune in rodeo’  couldn’t resist.

  113. coachdoug says:

    thanks!

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  114. quentin_stuckley says:

    i think the trade of halak was purely monetary.  clearly management wanted pleks resigned.  management knew that hal-len walsh was going to ask for big time money.  management knew that carey couldn’t ask for that much money, hence the gamble.  high risk, high reward.  plus, had they moved carey we wouldn’t be talking about the potential of the likes of eller and shultz.  we’d be wondering whether or not we got hosed on the deal.  i liked halak, i wished they both could have stayed.  

  115. fbkj says:

    this is my exact thoughts to a tee

    3 players, price, pleks, halak

    top six forwards are much more difficult to aquire than quality goaltending

     

  116. Danno says:

    Guimauve Latenderness holds the world record for wrap-arounds — wrappping his lips around pogos, poutine and Pepsis in record speed.

     

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  117. c.price says:

    A credible source has just told me that Markhov has fallen down stairs at his home this morning and might be out 2-4 weeks. More details to come.

     

    -Chris Price

    HIO member since 2010/05/10

  118. Everlasting1 says:

    If you’re referring to the booers, some are just not politically correct pansies.

     

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  119. B says:

    You do realize this is an evaluation period for the youth, right ?

    So then it should be ok for folks to evaluate young Price and post their opinions? Sounds fair, even if everyone does not share the same opinions.

  120. CanadienBoy says:

    Hey Avtsin get to play tonight and may be gui gui will be fussy after last night pub crawl .

  121. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Seriously Boone and Co., 3 straight threads all on Price, come on? And what did Fischer say, “had he just faced the media, nobody would have been talking about him the next day” yeah right!

  122. adam76 says:

    If only someone had given you a hug, all of this would have been avoided.

     

    Good night, sweet prince!

  123. LA Loyalist says:

    I didn’t know Congress had roadies. Now there’s a gig. Cash weighs less than a stack of Hi-Watts :-)

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  124. Chris F says:

    I agree with the notion that there is something seriously lacking with Price’s attitude and his mental toughness. The body follows the mind, negative thoughts create negative results. The opposite was true for Halak. Last postseason it was his destiny to play well, and he “willed” the team to great success.

    Price on the other hand simply is too “indifferent” in his actions. He looks slow, he doesn’t seem truly engaged. It’s his body language. He expects to get beaten. Why does a guy his size seem full of holes, completely full of holes. This has been happening for about a year now. At least six months. I will gladly eat my words if he completely turns his game around. But I am getting sick of hearing Price tell the fans to chill out, or “I am not going to lose sleep”. Well budd, stop some pucks.

    We didn’t hear Halak complain about screens, traffic, bad bounces, fluke goals, etc, etc. He just stopped the damn puck, and we loved him for it. 6-2, come on!! This is serious, and if you think Gauthier et al are not worried, think again. We have a decent team, they are fast and will score, but, last year we gave up 35 shots against consistently. Price has to be great, not just good.

    Someone close to the situation needs to give this kids head a shake. And I’m not against the “shrink” ideas from another poster.

     

  125. JF says:

    Very good post.  I’m disappointed in Price’s performance and  I’m also starting to be worried.  I was hoping so much he’d win last night (I don’t think it’s happened since February) so he’d return with a little confidence, but his performance was probably worse than in the first game.  The problem is that even when he starts a game well, he tends to lose his concentration at some point and allow at least one bad goal, after which he and the team often come unravelled.  I think this has been pretty much the case for him since the All-star break in 2009.  The problem is in his head, and I don’t think a lot has been done to solve it.  I’m giving him a pass until the regular season starts, but he needs to become mentally tougher as well as to sharpen his concentration and focus.  An occasional bad goal should not disturb him or his teammates unless they see a pattern of a bad goal leading to an overall drop in his level of play, which is what I see. 

  126. habs-is-it says:

    Does anyone know why Avtsin did not play the last three games? He seemed to have done well during scrimmage! 

  127. habs-is-it says:

    Does anyone know why Avtsin did not play the last three games? He seemed to have done well during scrimmage! 

  128. B says:

    I still don’t buy the “they had no choice” or “its the only way they could have kept Plekanec” theories. They had many choices available, but they simply chose to go move Halak and go with Price. So be it, time will tell how that decision works out.

  129. HardHabits says:

    It looks like your hand’s been put through a meat grinder what with all your spelling errors. Get an education before you start condescending. Either that or learn to use a spell check. Not sure how that’ll help you with your syntax but it’ll be a start.

  130. HardHabits says:

    You forgot Mae Wests!!

  131. LA Loyalist says:

    Not to speak for Bill J – but I don’t think he was saying not watch Price, but to not overly focus on that and miss the opportunity so see our future players.

    That’s a good idea, whatever side of the Price debate one is on, we shouldn’t miss this chance or all year we’ll be wondering about the kids.

     

     

    “20 games to a new tagline.”

  132. SmartDog says:

    I do get your point.  But I disagree.  To say “well it’s pre-season, I’m doing everything I can and will be ready”… well THAT is a meaningless sond bite.  It’s expected, nothing interesting.   But to say “I’m not going to lose sleep over it” is off script and SOUNDS genuine… but it’s BS. 

    IF he said “I’m pissed and frustrated – but I need to go through this” well THAT would be the truth.. there a hundred other ways to state the truth.  And 100 other standard sound bites.   Price is going out of his way to SOUND cool and calm but it’s so obviously a lie.  And lying doesn’t make you a stronger person.   The truth does.   You can either speak in standard sound bites (which serve to play it save and protect you) and sometimes HAVE to. Or say the truth in as positive a fashion as possible.  Price isn’t doing either.  He’s f-ing up and saying dumb things about it.  It doesn’t make anyone like him more, and more important, it doesn’t help him grow. 

    This may seem subtle, but I think it’s powerful.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  133. SmartDog says:

    I agree with you Mikey.  He was mismanaged by Gainey, now is mismanaged by Gauthier.   They keep doing the same damn thing and the team pays for it – and so does Carey. 

    But the situation is his to fix. It’s his problem (unfortunately).  And I wish I could see him facing it squarely… or at least putting up a better wall.  He’s just being flip, obvoiusly bitter…. this isn’t helping him.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  134. SmartDog says:

    Good thing no-one annointed you ‘the Franchise’.  LOL
    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  135. Favorite Son says:

    Man, Spacek really looks like sh*t on the ice. That’s not reassuring either that one of your veteran defencemen blows that much.

  136. HardHabits says:

    Price looks like he’s lost his competitive drive. He’s just going through the motions. The sad part is regardless how low Carey sinks Bob’ll be there propping him up an enabling him further. That’s the real issue here. Price’s whole demeanor was pretty much fabricated by his mismanagement. Lofty expectations were placed on the kid, and I am hoping I am wrong on this, but he’s a bust. The Habs should trade him. The sooner the better. I don’t care if he wins 5 Cups elsewhere. He doesn’t look like he’ll win one here.

  137. likehoy says:

    agreed…he better step it up and go back to the ovechkin-stopping form.

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  138. LA Loyalist says:

    May we have our #5 overall draft pick back please? Hope you speak Suisse.

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  139. bostonantifan says:

    Incredibly stupid post.  Moderators should find out who the idiot with the c.price logon is and ban them outright.

  140. B says:

    What has Gauthier done in his brief time as GM to mis-manage Price? He didn’t step in when the coach decided to go mainly with the other goalie who was winning more games last season. He did make the decision to trade Halak and go with Price, but I am not sure if that is mismanaging Price or just a debatable personnel decision. What am I missing here?

  141. adam76 says:

    I said the exact same thing 6 months ago.  You said it today.  The rest of the world will all agree with us in 2 to 3 months (minus khab and the 14 year olds).

    If only he got more hugs…..

  142. HNS says:

    Sure, why wouldn’t there be any repercussions from trading away a goalie that beat the two best teams in the NHL and going with a guy that sucked last season and got benched. Amazing………

  143. shootdapuck says:

    Fuction of server hardware, server location and router as to how the network connects to you.

    I believe ATHE has several servers, reload a few times you might find an improvment!

     

     

    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″

  144. adam76 says:

    Yes – but do you know Price was drafted 5th overall five years ago?  DO YOU KNOW HOW TALL HE IS?????

  145. likehoy says:

    best 2 teams in the NHL?? vancouver and chicago don’t get an honorable mention!?

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  146. habs permanent bandwagon fan says:

    I’ve been saying it for 2 years now.

    he doesn’t have confidence.

    he doesn’t have the mental toughness.

    his demeanor is too nonchalant.

    he doesn’t have the mechanics.

    he goes down too early, example being the last Sens goal.  If he would stay upright then the shooter has nothing to shoot at.

    and to Carey, losing is no big deal. with an attitude like that, you’ll always be a ,loser.

    the kid is sooooooooooooooooo overhyped it’s ridiculous.

    even if he’s traded(which I expect before the end of the season), you’ll never make it on another team either.

    just doesn’t have it to make it in the NHL.

  147. B says:

    It is way to early to throw in the towel on Price for this season, let alone the future of his career in Montreal. He has not had a great pre-season so far, but we have seen him do a lot better than that in NHL games. They have made their bed and will have to live with it this season. I don’t see them getting a better goalie in a trade right now and there are not many UFA goalies left (Theodore? Emery? Caron?).

  148. likehoy says:

    HH, I expected better from you. 

    I mean it’s pre-season…this is pre-season. We’re talking about pre-season here. Not the regular season, not the playoffs, but pre-season.

    Be it a Halak fan, a Habs fan, or a Price fan…but this is pre-season. Remember when Guillaume Latendresse ripped up pre-season and we signed him to a contract? how did he fair in the regular season? not so great. How about Viktor Stahlberg for the laffs. He was deemed their saviour after getting something like 8 points in 8 games in pre-season…and he stunk in the regular season. the opposite can be said of veterans…

    lets wait till the regular season actually starts before we condemn price to anything.

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  149. afik says:

    I am so sorry to say this, but you right! I agree with every word! The funny this is that we knew this would be the situation al along! The big question is – what now?

    Any way, we’ll see tonight what happens……

  150. afik says:

    I am so sorry to say this, but you right! I agree with every word! The funny this is that we knew this would be the situation al along! The big question is – what now?

    Any way, we’ll see tonight what happens……

  151. B says:

    Spacek in Montreal is a bigger cap hit than Halak in St.Louis. I hope he is worth it this season.

  152. LA Loyalist says:

    I heard from a reliable source that he was injured while condescending a staircase.

    The grammatical and spelling crimes are half the fun of HIO, actually.

    Plus taxes in Quebec are high enough. We don’t need a syntax.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  153. RetroMikey says:

    Amen Smart Dog, Amen!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  154. SmartDog says:

    What did Gauthier do?    He traded away a proven performer and then instead of getting Price a mentor he put us back on the Price-go-round.  It’s been a poor strategy twice already, so hey, why not let Price die in front of the crowd a third time?

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  155. otter649 says:

    Check out the show Man vs Food – The host is a food eating machine………

  156. notbigbird says:

    What it looks like isn’t necessarily what it is. I think he simply becomes defeatist and loses his confidence too easily.

    They’ve got to prop him up now — it’s sink or swim with CP. I have a hunch that he’ll settle down once he gets more and consistent playing time. At least I fervently hope so. But I agree that he’s in a state right now.

  157. LA Loyalist says:

    Watch out, the PriceBots(tm) will hack your home address.

  158. notbigbird says:

    I am assuming that he’s trying to convince himself, but who’s to know who’s right — at least at this point. Keeping my fingers crossed.

  159. Bugs says:

    His pedigree is actually one of the few known phenomena that could kick Chick Norris’ azz.

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  160. Danno says:

    Not for GL. He’s on a strict 3P diet.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  161. ZepFan2 says:

    Wow, let the tanking begin.

    Seriously, you’re freaking out already?

    I thought you were smarter than the trolls here. Please don’t prove me wrong, bro. Lay off the Tony pills.

    ————————————————————————–

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  162. ZepFan2 says:

    and the 14 year olds…

    I guess that includes you.

    ————————————————————————–

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  163. B says:

    I mentioned trading Halak, and questioned if that was mis-managing Price or rather a debatable personnel decision. You mentioned not getting Price a mentor, who do you think should Gauthier have picked up to mentor Price?

  164. showey47 says:

    yeah but you have only been here for a day? Oh wait that was under another dozen user names.

  165. HardHabits says:

    Price has all the agility and speed of a tank. So let it begin. Carey “the tank” Price is gonna be his new nickname if he doesn’t start stopping pucks soon.

  166. matraque says:

    Just for fun…

    Who’s going to have a better season?

    Gui! Gui! Gui! ?

    Or

    Pouliot?

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  167. Le Gros Bill says:

    Long time reader, first time posting.

    While I’ll admit that it’s only pre-season and tell myself that I should not be concerned about Carey Price, I AM NOW VERY CONCERNED.

    After the chill out out comments from a few days ago we now get this after yesterday’s game:

    “It would have been nice to make some of those saves but I’m not going to lose any sleep.”

    I guess if I was making 2.75 million and had a guaranteed job, I too would also not be worried about my performance at work.

    It would not bother me  at all if Price allowed 10 goals in 1 1/2 games as long as he battled for every shot, showed passion rather than nonchalance.

    I think Price needs to wake up and smell the coffee, Preseason is important to set some goods habits early and believe me that winning can be contagious.

    I am not a so called Price hater or Halak fanboy but I am now extremely concerned about Price being our no 1 keeper this year and before you all remind me that it’s only preseason, Price’s play has indeed been poor for over 18 months now.

    Hoping to be proven wrong by Carey but I’ve got a bad feeling about this one.

  168. petefleet says:

    Going back in time for a moment: Sept.19, 2009 Habs 1 Sens 6.  Spacek scores and Price is in the net for 6.  Relax, it’s only preseason.  Look how well it worked out last year!

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  169. coachdoug says:

    Anyone know if the game is being televised tonight?

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  170. Clay4bc says:

    I think Gui, but hope Pouliot.

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    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell –

  171. Bill J says:

    RIS (124 on Bell)

     

  172. homerbowen says:

    Never mind the goalie when the hell are we going to score 6 or more goals?

  173. CanadienBoy says:

    Desjardins was in goal for Tampa last night and lost !!

  174. coachdoug says:

    Bill..Thanks…Though the RIS feed through Justin TV is horrible…wish RDS was doing more of these

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  175. Bill J says:

    Actually Yzerman has already called Bettman, and now Desjardins will be credited with a shutout!

    ;)

  176. Bill J says:

    The next 2 are on RDS I think :)

  177. Clay4bc says:

    I don’t think that called for even one exclamation mark, yet you used two…curious.

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    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell –

  178. coachdoug says:

    Good…I know it is just pre-season but once our youth team starts it’s season I am either at games or practices 3 nights a week so I miss a lot of games or hear them on XM radio…Rare I get a free night to relax and watch a full game

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  179. baruch says:

    Hi Bill and welcome, I completely concur. It’s been said before, Sergio Momesso did last night,  all Carey Price needs to do to silence the critics is to make (some of) the big saves.  

    I don’t care about what is going on in his head, but if there is something wrong there, he should at least allow himself to be put on psychological IR if there is such a thing (he can say he was ‘injured’ by Bob Gainey), we will thank him for it and be much more supportive if he steps aside (for as long as he needs) and allows fans like me to have a team I can believe in.

  180. Bill J says:

    You’re right.

    It should have been 3 exclamation marks.

    One for Halak struggling in preseason too.

    One for Huet being waived & headed to the Swiss league.

    One for Desjardins/Yzerman/Boucher/BriseBois losing.

    I’m sure he just forgot to add the third exclamation mark. ;)

    lol

  181. Bill J says:

    Yeah I do like watching the preseason.

    Get to watch the kids on the team (I do not bother to look at the NHL players during preseason).

    Leblanc, Tinordi etc.  We will not see them for some time now, so I prefer to watch them.

    Preseason should be looked at in this way IMO – far easier to watch, and could care less about the losses.

    It is after all an evaluation period, NOT real Hockey Games that mean anything.

  182. CanadienBoy says:

    Agree !!!

  183. nfldanchor says:

    After watching Price give an interview after the game , it appears that he has his money now and doesn’t have the passion of a true goaltender .He won’t lose any sleep over it, but many Habs fans will when he faces not rookies but full fledged NHL teams. I just find Price has an attitude  and not the one you need to be  a solid goalie in the NHL. Price should be embarrassed especially when he didn’t move on 3 of the six goals. If Price is our number one goalie , then we are in for a long year. Finally when he truly plays horrible all his supporters will call for him to be put on the chopping block. When will the management learn that the majority of fans who pay the bills , have no faith in Price and question the effort he puts in . Its time to wake up and smell the roses!!! Now I have been a Habs fan for 40 yrs and I am very disappointed in the management of this team once again.

  184. SPATS says:

    Welcome Mr Beliveau…You are correct indeed. Carey reached his peak in the shootout win vs Tampa Bay when he posed after the final save a la Usain Bolt. His accomplishments since then are a stuffed all star ballot, an injury and the bubble bursting at the young all star game. Sad. BG has coddled him every step like a business owner would promote his son. It’s nepotism without the bloodlines. Carey did what any young cocky stud would do. He accepted the challenge. Now he’s shattered and all he can do is pretend it’s no big deal. He’s a huge distraction and needs to be dealt for everyone’s sake.

    OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  185. Danno says:

    Yes, but your use of ellipsis is too curious…

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  186. Bill J says:

    You’re looking at this in a very weird way.  Allow me to paint a different view.  Perhaps you will choose to consider it for at least 2-3 more weeks.  What’s the worst that could happen, 2-3 weeks of your time to indulge yourself a bit.

    Price will not lose any sleep over it, because it is a preseason game.  Let’s see what he says when the games count, and he has a FULL team of NHL players with him ?  IE Within the next 2-3 weeks when the regular season will have started.

    So wait for concrete evidence before losing faith in the management & Price.

    A bit early to jump ship on the team, preseason ?  Yikes.

  187. Everlasting1 says:

    It was concrete evidence 2 and a half yrs ago.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  188. c.price says:

    I do not need to answer to anyone.

  189. c.price says:

    Good day,

         Although this goes against the advice of my agent and others, I feel it appropriate to come here and announce that I will be no longer playing in Montreal. I do not feel this is the right fit for me andI simply do not feel welcomed here. I have played my last game as a Canadien last night and will have more details in the hours ahead.

     

        I thank all the fans who supported me.

     

        C. Price

  190. c.price says:

    Good day,

         Although this goes against the advice of my agent and others, I feel it appropriate to come here and announce that I will be no longer playing in Montreal. I do not feel this is the right fit for me andI simply do not feel welcomed here. I have played my last game as a Canadien last night and will have more details in the hours ahead.

     

        I thank all the fans who supported me.

     

        C. Price

  191. Bill J says:

    Some of you people are looking at these games in a VERY odd way.

    You do realize this is an evaluation period for the youth, right ? 

    Look how long last year it took for the team to gel/create chemistry, with NHL caliber players.

    You expect a few practices/games for instant chemistry when half the team did not play last year for MTL ?

     

    Stop watching the NHL players, & look at the YOUTH.

    PK – How much he’s gotten better.

    Tinordi, hey at 18, he’s really impressive.  in 2 years, he could be very good.  Which is reasonable.

    Leblanc, has shown flashes, but he will benefit IMO from the time in the Q, and perhaps for a Calder Cup run at the end of this season.

    Watch the youth people, some of them you will not see for some time now.

    Enjoy the game tonight people, and watch it with perspective!

  192. Caballero says:

    I think that you could say that these are not regular preseason games because the entire city is looking for some proof that trading away Halak was not a crazy move. I am sure that Gauthier is also sweating because he wants to see some proof that he didn’t make a bad gamble. If Price is not aware of this he is sleepwalking. Also, he needs to be coached on how to speak to the media. He should have taken more responsibility. A good rule of thumb for him is to blame himself more when we lose and to praise the team when we win even if everyone knows this is not the case and it’s not what he is thinking. Telling fans to be calm, then letting in a ton of goals and saying we won’t be losing sleep is just horrible horrible PR

  193. gumper says:

    I’m sure that by consulting the fans before making any future moves, M. Gauthier will be able to avoid any further mistakes.

  194. Bill J says:

    This is simply not funny.

     

  195. Everlasting1 says:

    With your dictatorial views I might. There have been a lot worse tyrants in recent times. Look up Mao.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  196. Bugs says:

    Non-obsessin schmaltz-lovin sellout!

    It’s you and that kind of “sentmentality” that turned this place into Apologist Central! And that won’t do! We’re haters, bashers, critics and complainers, you got it? That’s how we do things here! We don’t DO schmaltz!

    So go work for Oprah, why dontcha; she digs that kinda stuff!

    Yuck, blechh, gross…ptui!

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  197. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    If you can get your hands on an audio track of Ken Dryden reading ‘le chandail de hockey’ to play quietly in the background, that would be best.

    Hey, if we can’t get sentimental about hockey…well, then I’d realize that I spend a good portion of the fall, winter and spring nowadays, obsessing over a group of grown men being paid millions of dollars to chase a piece of galvinized rubber on ice.  So I think I’ll stick to the sentimentality :) 

  198. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    (and I’ll choose to ignore the freak comment) ;)

  199. Danno says:

    Rubber is vulcanized. Metal is galvinized. Jacques Martin’s hair is Simonized. And Carey Price is demonized.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  200. ZepFan2 says:

    Go back to Disneyworld, Bambi

    you dew-eyed freak…

    And here I thought you said you don’t call people names. I guess I was wrong.

    You do realise calling someone, “Bambi”, is basically calling them a pu$$y?

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  201. Habsrule1 says:

    Not that Bugs needs me to defend him, but chill dude.

    Those are not exactly what I’d call insults, but I guess it depends how sensitive one is.

    They both sounded funny to me…and yes, even if he had called me those same “names”.

    Take a pill.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  202. ZepFan2 says:

    I’m chill to the max.

    Bugs went after another poster telling him to chill with the name calling. When someone else pointed out he did the same, he denied it.

    I’m just pointing out the fact that he does.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  203. Bugs says:

    No, he doesn’t. Never.

    You sound desperate, Zeppy. Doesn’t suit you.

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  204. Everlasting1 says:

    Pft. You’re an emotional ball of estrogen and insults like no one else.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  205. ZepFan2 says:

    Maybe you should call me hitler.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  206. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, because I’m lying, right?

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  207. nunacanadien says:

    I wonder how many losses Price really has?  Remember he’d be pulled as the starter in the first period or second period and Halak would go in and this would be recorded as a loss for Halak and not Price.  That is very selective and manipulation of team statistics and most of all the confidence and championship spirit of the team is affected.  No wonder the team played for Halak last year, they knew at least Halak wouldn’t give game after game away with what were essentially very easy shots to stop.  Now I wonder if this year we will again see the manipulation of both Auld’s and Sandford’s stats.

  208. Danno says:

    I don’t get RIS. Is there a feed that has the game on?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  209. petefleet says:

    Last nite it was on NHL CentreIce as well.

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  210. Habsrule1 says:

    We have a goalie and I bet he’s do even better as wuld the team if you supported him instead of bashing him for a meaningless preseason loss where the team played as bad as he did.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  211. HABZ24 says:

    third year and this washout peice of crap heartless useless goalie will never be any good. ohh ya he was a stand out in jr’s but guess what this is the big league and peewee herman price cant cut it. ya im bashing him, he deserves it, come on 3 years and still garbage, how much longer do we give him, til were in 30th place at xmas? im throwing out my price t shirt. ive never hated any canadiens player until now.

  212. ZepFan2 says:

    come on 3 years and still garbage…

    You know what’s nice. When people actually look at stats and not just rant a say things off the top of their head.

    It makes them look a little, what’s the word I’m looking for…??

     

    Carey Price

    1st year – 41gp – 24 – 12 – 0.920%

    2nd yr. – 52gp – 23 – 16 – 0.905% – started yr. in minors

    3rd yr. – 41gp – 13 – 20 – 0.912%

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  213. Habsrule1 says:

    Is that your tattoo? From your post I’d think you were 12 years old, but then you can’t get a tattoo.

    If it is, and you’re actually over 18, it’s kinda pathetic how much stock you put in a preseason game. Not to mention a 12 year old may not be able to tell if goals were all the goalie’s fault or not.

    I hope, for your sake, that is not your tattoo.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  214. Chuck says:

    Hey Mike, did you form that opinion on your own, or are you just rehashing the verbal diarrhea from some Halak fans that have an axe to grind because he was traded?

  215. HardHabits says:

    Look. I want Price to succeed as a Hab too. Really I do. But the thing is I want to Habs to succeed more, and that means with or without Price. Trotting out past numbers has no bearing on what may be. Only Price can affect that outcome.

  216. HNS says:

    That won’t help. He suks. He suked last year too.

  217. Habsrule1 says:

    I hope he never sucks as much at goaltending as you do at posting.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  218. ZepFan2 says:

    Umm. past numbers are all we have at this moment.

    Preseason stats don’t count, or is this news to you!?

    Btw, he was implying Price has been garbage for the past three years. I beg to differ.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  219. HNS says:

    Ur an idiot. You’ll be criying as you wonder why this team is below .500

  220. Traf27 says:

    The past numbers were brought out to refute our obviously over-emotional posters claims that Prica has sucked for 3 years. I’m not impressed with Price so far this pre-season either.  The thing is though this year there isn’t a goalie controversy, there is no Halak. Though I don’t think the team this year will need to rely on there goalie as much as last year Price is all we have. Yes we can be disappointeds with his performance some nights, but as much as we can we have to support him or else it’s going to be a long year for him and by association a long year for us fans.

     

    The struggles of today will make the victories of tomorrow that much sweeter.

  221. HardHabits says:

    I make no apologies for putting Price under a magnifying glass, pre-season or not. It’s training camp I know but training camp is a relevant exercise.

  222. volcano62 says:

    I feel the same way….keep the faith! Auld will keep us in!

  223. volcano62 says:

    By the looks of your avatar you have blinders on. This has nothing to do with Halak….If our REAL goalie was still with us Price would still suck.

  224. ZepFan2 says:

    Yet you ignore the rest of the team (hello Spacek), in meaningless preseason games.

    Whatever floats your boat. I on the other hand will wait to bitch after the season begins, if need be.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  225. Habsrule1 says:

    I refrained from insulting you cause I figured you were mentally challenged. It turns out that you are.

    Thanks Kreskin….for knowing our record from 2 pre-season games. It’s unbelievable how idiotic some fans are.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  226. dockturtle says:

    Agree completely. Was there last night and most the team sucked after 30 minutes. Spacek definitely responsible for more goals than Price. Leblanc looked good for a while. Can’t see why the fuss over Palushaj-doesn’t mean he’s not good, but he didn’t show it last night. Tinordi will be good. But really, the whole team didn’t bring much apart from Plekanec and Cammalerri.
    U

  227. quentin_stuckley says:

    just to the obsessive compulsive

  228. petefleet says:

    I was referring to PG not CP.

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  229. observer says:

    even the 3 who played this past week – auld, sanford and mayer ALL THREE played much better than him on similar teams their night.

  230. BJ says:

    Any other goalie? We wouldn’t be taking about it. They would be in the AHL or ECHL.

  231. smiler2729 says:

    You forgot Brady Quinn, my neighbour swore on that draft day that the Cowboys made a mistake passing on him, that he’d be “the next Joe Montana”. Of course, he’s a Cowboys fan and a Fighting Irish fan… so his judgment is partly cloudy.

    I don’t care about the pre-season so rant all you want.

  232. Bill J says:

    You absolutely hit the nail on the head in your closing argument.

    Well Done. :)

  233. saskhabfan says:

    You know what would be hilarious. If you 2 actually had the balls to call price a dope smoker to his face. Then he kicks both of your asses and posts a video of the both of your licking the horse crap off the bottom of his cowboy boots begging for your lives. Now that would be funny.

     

     

    “bad analogy- when he first played those wins/losses ??? how many goals did crosby and malkin score that year?”-Observer. When asked why Marc Andre fleury had been sent to the minors when he struggled in his 3rd season.

  234. Chuck says:

    That made me giggle!

    Yeah, it’s pretty easy to talk crap about someone anonymously from behind a computer screen. They could post the longest diatribe against Price and post it on HI/O, but wouldn’t have the nads to say it to his face. Pretty cowardly, if you ask me.

    A good rule of thumb: don’t post anything that you wouldn’t say to someone face-to-face.

  235. LA Loyalist says:

    That was funny. just be glad (though I’ve never tried) that it’s pretty difficult to smoke dope and ride a horse at the same time.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  236. petefleet says:

    That would be funny.  LMAO

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  237. G-Man says:

    Ellis Valentine.

  238. rocketsglare says:

    It’s silly to suggest that Price has not been given a “real chance”, when he has had multiple chances

    since joining the Habs. He has been lauded as the team’s future netminder since day 1 and given the

    starting role the last 2 years, but has not been able to perform consistently up to his billing.

    Price continues to underperform and appears to be unable to focus during crunch time. His play can be

    scintilating and then without warning become utterly disapointing. Why?

    Are these swings the result simply of immaturity, a lack of preparation, or just bad luck? ; or is it some-

    thing more that talent alone can’t compensate for? Price seems to have a dedication and commitment gap

    and this could explain his inconsistent play. Perhaps we are actually seeing the “real” Price: a player with

    enormous talent but suspect dedication and commitment who will alwys be an above average goalie at

    best. Let’s hope not.

     

     

    Go Habs Go!

     

     

     

     

     

  239. KenD29 says:

    I seem to recall Spacek being injoured and out of a few games last playoff run. Sure he played well in a couple of games when he was in, but I also recall him making the same mistakes he is making so far. For the amount of money, like I said, we would be better to develop 2 or 3 young guns and let them get their feet wet. At least they have the potential to be around for a few more years. Spacek’s days are long behind him, soon to be 37.
    And if it is alright for many to rag on Price’s play, should also look at the entire team’s play so far too!

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  240. Habsrule1 says:

    Has Cammalleri scored yet (I honestly don’t know cause preseason is irrelevant), but if he hasn’t, let trade him too!

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  241. matraque says:

    This really bugs me…. Spacek performance is not excusable, but Price is.  Where’s the logic?

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  242. Everlasting1 says:

    Like his getting serious ice time..

     

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  243. Bill J says:

    I don’t think he meant it as you implied.

    I think he meant to imply, others are rusty too.  That is after all why they play preseason games, to get back into the team chemistry they had in the previous season.

    That and to evaluate the youth.

  244. Bugs says:

    Enough with the Spacek, folks, please.

    The guy is 76-yrs-old; he’s been in the League for eons; he don’t got nothin to prove to nobody and he don’t got to show us fans anything in the friggin preseason.

    Hey, guess what? Cammy’s friggin loafin out there. LOAFIN! Ok? We’re not gettin upset cuz we know he’s just chillin until the season starts. And that’s cool with us because we know it’s the preseason and we know he can bring it when it counts. So we don’t talk about it. But he’s friggin loafin nonetheless.

    Since Spacek has been known to make little mistakes sometimes, his situation seems more worrisome. But he’s a vet. He can loaf in the preseason too.

    The Kid ain’t a vet. Not the end of the world yet, but he should be trying to show us something, because his “worrisome” factor is MUCH more elevated than Spacek’s.

    No?

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  245. Habsrule1 says:

    “sigh”

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  246. KenD29 says:

    You got that one right!!

    Spacek same mistake twice in 2 games!
    His days are long behind him. $4million cap hit, what a waste!

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  247. KenD29 says:

    Sorry Bugs… a vet should not be making the same mistake twice in 2 games! And at his age, he should be busting his rear even more! At $ 4 million to the cap, would rather have 3 young guns back there for that kind of money. At least they would be able to catch up if they got burned liek Spacek did these two games!
    Hopefully the training staff have the O2 behind the benhc when he comes off the ice!

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  248. Habsrule1 says:

    Sorry Ken….everyone is working out the rust….everyone. Spacek was one of our best defenseman when it counted…in the playoffs, but no, you’re right. That’s nowhere near as important as 3 preseason games.

    I’m glad the right people are making the decisions for the Habs.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  249. Bugs says:

    Like Cammalleri, you mean?

    Way he’s playin in the preseason, you wanna buy him out too? He looks “horrible” too, no?

    Yeah, let’s buy him out. Cuz he’s playin bad in the preseason like Spacek.

    Right?

    C’mon, Ken. They’re vets. They can loaf.

    The Kid ain’t a vet. Can’t loaf.

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  250. adam76 says:

    Spacek wasn’t playing on horses all summer, or staying out till 2 am at club super sexe in 2009.

  251. KenD29 says:

    Sorry Bugs, I will agree to disagree on this topic with you.

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  252. G-Man says:

    I guess Rask was rusty as well Wednesday night.

  253. Habsrule1 says:

    I think the whole team, along with 29 other teams are just working out the kinks. Price is rusty. He did not spend the whole summer playing hockey. It’s really not that big of a deal. Remember that AI interview about practice. Now replace all of the words “practice” with “preseason” and stop worrying so much.

    You think Cammalleri looked amazing out there? Spacek was very good in the playoffs last year, but he’s looked less than stellar so far this preseason.

    Wait for it…….

    …….who cares?

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  254. KenD29 says:

    Spacek less than stellar. I would say downright awful! 2 games and lost his strap in both games! Still looking for it.
    $4 million… buy him out! Horrible.

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  255. Bugs says:

    Agree it’s just preseason and it’s kinda hard to get really upset about the Kid’s performance so far but…

    Rask didn’t look rusty. Elliott didn’t look rusty. How come it’s just our guy who looks rusty?

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  256. adam76 says:

    Price did look rusty – guess plying cowboy was a mistake.

  257. G-Man says:

    Price should still be in Hamilton, but “thoroughbreds” get treated differently. I think he meant 1st round draft choices, but why nitpick?

    Habs management has a blind spot when it comes to Price. The comparisons to Fleury, who is playing with 2 bonafide superstars on his team in Crosby and Malkin, are not that accurate.

  258. LA Loyalist says:

    What should Gauthier do?

    Should we suck it up and bring in a GOOD veteran goalie (yes we will have to trade value which we don’t have the depth to do) for Price to play behind for another year or two? 

    Is it too late?

    Would it have a reasonable chance to work? 

    Trading him is off the table as he’s not worth much right now. What do you think?

    The only alternative that I can see is letting him play through this and mature under fire and very probably miss the playoffs for a potential big return down the road. Is that acceptable? Is it more acceptable than tanking to get a good draft pick?

    Does he need a new goalie coach? Does he need a shrink? A sports psychologist? A new horse? What? We need to think outside the crease here for a minute.

     

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  259. adam76 says:

    Name another NHL goaltender who gets 6 to 7 years to prove himself?

  260. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I think it would be a kneejerk reaction to trade him now. 

  261. HardHabits says:

    No Fred G. Sanford after his six shots of whiskey before he takes his six shots at his son for selling junk for too cheap. Which Sanford did you think?

  262. KenD29 says:

    Nor did St Louis !

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  263. Chuck says:

    You’re really going to draw a comparison between the two goalies considering that Sanford could have played that half game in a rocking chair?

  264. Habsrule1 says:

    No…I thought so! I’m guessing you’re backing off now, right? You seemed so sure of yourself before.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  265. adam76 says:

    I’ll bet you 100 dollhairs Price will not be .500 after his first 20 games.  Email me and will hook up the details.

  266. Chuck says:

    No, actually it’s quite real. Look it up.

  267. Chuck says:

    No, actually it’s quite real. Look it up.

  268. Chuck says:

    You’re willing to bet that he doesn’t succeed? Wasn’t it just a couple of days ago that you made the effort to make sure that we all knew that you hoped that he’d really do well this season?

    In the words of Cindi Lauper, your true colours are shining through.

  269. Habsrule1 says:

    Sure…a cool C-Note says they are not winning the Cup in the preseason. You say they are?

    Deal. Now, don’t back out now that you’ve had time to think about it…!

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  270. HardHabits says:

    They’re not winning games in the pre-season with him in nets either.

  271. Habsrule1 says:

    And that’s so important. If we lost every preseason game, I stil would not worry. That being said, I do take a tiny bit of importance out of the last one or 2. I’ll be at the last one, so I do hope they win. I was also there last night, and the fact that they lost didn’t really bother me.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  272. adam76 says:

    how about you just look at all 2010.

  273. HardHabits says:

    The team losing doesn’t bother me, Carey letting in goals doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is the manner in which goals go in against Price and the frequency these types of goals go in against him. Add to that his nonchalance. He was treated like he would walk in and grab the Habs bull by the horns and lead us all to the promised land. He hasn’t earned his number 1 goaltending spot and by all accounts he’s losing it. Sanford and Mayer look better so far. There’s still a few more games left in camp to make an assessment but so far Price is failing. Spacek too for that matter.

  274. Habsrule1 says:

    Ok…a .912 save %…not great, but not all that bad either. I think it’ll be better this year, but only time will tell.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  275. Habsrule1 says:

    I was at the game last night. Besides Spezza’s goal, which was flukey but Price should have played it better, the rest Price was pretty much left on his own. Now, before you say that he should stop some of those, he made 2 or 3 great saves on 3on1’s…twice using a pokecheck to get the puck away from the opposing forward. He wasn’t great, but he showed some great poise for long periods. He loked better and more confident than game 1, and my money says he’ll continue to improve.

    As for Spacek, he knows the significance of these games as compared to when they really matter. He’s limbering up slowly and making plays in his own time right now. The guy’s been pretty good when it matters for a long time.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  276. Chuck says:

    Sanford, and his total of 6 shots against?

  277. Chuck says:

    A .912 save% was good enough to win Fleury a Cup with the Penguins.

  278. HardHabits says:

    One could pull out an equally compelling statistic showing how a good goalie elevates a not so good team, you know, like in the case of Halak, but that’s apples and oranges right?

    Price has a lot of what have you done for me lately to catch up on and the thoroughbred is already stumbling out of the gates.

  279. Ron in Ottawa says:

    I am getting really tired of all the negative talk about Price. Yes he has lots of talent and yeas he has lots of work to do. but the boo-birds are really just mouthing off because their favorite guy got traded. So don’t boo Price- boo the Habs management  who made the mess of a young goalie by rushing him up without enoung time in the minors.

    So how do you boo managment? Stay home- don’t buy tickets- go bowling. if the Bell centre was not sold out every night, the Molsons would notice the fans’ displeasure and probabaly do something.

    But lay off the kid.

  280. Chuck says:

    One could. Please do so.

  281. ZepFan2 says:

    Okay, I have no clue which HH I’m dealing with. But it sure sounds like it’s not the sarcastic one.

    Can we at least wait till the regular season starts before we freak out and proclaim the season over? Is that asking too much??

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  282. HardHabits says:

    The same Habs team, two different goalies, two different results last season. Statistcally speaking you have it right there. Just compare Halak’s numbers to Price’s. Don’t make me post their stats man. C’mon!!

    That’s not the point. That numbers don’t tell the whole story is. ;-)

  283. Chuck says:

    Same team, except that they were missing their best defenseman for the first part of the season when the L’s started to pile up for Carey. 

    The other thing that you leave out of the equation is the quality of opponent that Jaro was getting his wins against, especially earlier in the year which allowed him to build up his won/loss record:

    Atlanta (x2), New York Islanders (x3), Toronto (x2), and Florida (x2). All of those games came before December 31. In that same timespan, he lost to Calgary (x2), Pittsburgh, Buffalo (x2), Ottawa, the Rangers, and Florida.

  284. adam76 says:

    YOU PEOPLE sure make a ton of excuses for Prices failure.  

    Look at the number of games Price started with Markov in the lineup.   Sorry to let the facts get in the way.

    HE didn’t stop the puck last season, and he is failing to stop the puck in the preseason.  No matter what words flow from your keyboard – you are worried that Price doesn’t have the ability to turn his embarrassing play around.  I know it and you know it.

     

  285. Traf27 says:

    Of course we are worried that his play doesn’t improve. Even the most hardcore Price fan has to admit that 10 GA over 2 games is far from even decent, nvm good. The difference here is that though we’re worried he might not we believe he can, and we will support him until he does or until he isn’t wearing a habs jersey. The is if he’s has bad as you say he is with zero chance of improving, you may as weel not watch the next 2 habs seasons cuz we’re gonna go 0-82. We gotta believe in something instead of waiting for the next failure so we can all jump in and say “I told ya so”.

     

    The struggles of today will make the victories of tomorrow that much sweeter.

  286. Chuck says:

    I’ll thank you for not putting words in my mouth. I’m quite capable of observing and forming my own opinions, thanks.

    Seeing as you couldn’t be bothered to do the research, I’ll do it for you:

    Markov came back from his injury on December 19, which meant that he was available for 15 of the 40 games (37.5%) that Price played in.  He was available for 28 of the 45 games (62.2%) that Halak played.

     

  287. ZepFan2 says:

    HE didn’t stop the puck last season…

    Yes because as we all know, one season makes a career.

    psst, you know nothing.

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  288. HardHabits says:

    Now that the team has gelled and the system is in place all we Habs fans need to do is just give Carey Price some time. He needs a bit more practice at being a number one that’s all. You see Carey Price is goaltending royalty, his blue blood needs to be purveyed by advisors and courtesans of the high courts so that his royal highness may accede to the goaltending throne as has been ordained by the high priest Bob Gainey. If you don’t see the sarcasm then you’ve just swallowed the hook, line and sinker, bro!!!

    The bottom line is Price doesn’t have that much time and the clock is ticking fast on the patience of the Habsdom.

  289. ZepFan2 says:

    If this is a response to my other post to you, then yes, you got me.

    You son of a frink…Sarcasm detector

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    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  290. Habsrule1 says:

    You mean the patience of a few fans who can’t get over the fact that their favorite player was traded at what may have been the peak of his acreer and we still could not get all that much for him.

    Bottom line is Price is our guy…the players love him, the coaches love him, and management love him.

    Just support him like we all should be instead of bashing him for meaningless games. I swear if you watched him playing street hockey with a few friends you’d be all pissed if he let in a goal.

    Do you boo him when goals go in during warm up too?

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  291. ZepFan2 says:

    Dude, you just got sucked into the ‘HH sarcasm chasm’.

    Welcome to the club, and can you make room, I’m sure there will be more of us. ;)

    ————————————————————————–

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  292. Chuck says:

    Just goes to show that the team in front of the goalie has just as much to do with his win/loss record.

    With a .912 SV%, Price was 13-20 last season. When Fleury posted the exact same .912 SV%, he went 35-18 and won the Stanley Cup.

    Price posts a .905 SV% in his second year with a result of a 23-16 in 52 games. Fleury, at a .906 SV% and 15 more games is 40-16.

  293. SmartDog says:

    A couple of things about this situation:

    1. When Price came a lot was made of his maturity.  I see a guy who is good at looking calm but who is not calm.  If I’m Gauthier I’m hoping Auld is ready to share the spotlight – at very least.  Price’s cake is still not quite baked  Sigh.

    2. NO matter how you see it, Price’s performance is a distraction the
    team doesn’t need.   The pre-season story is now Price’s problems
    stopping pucks.  It’s too bad.

    SD

     

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  294. Chuck says:

    Actually, all of the air time and column-inches devoted to Carey is probably helping the rest of the team by taking the heat off of them. If that wasn’t the case, Jaro Spacek would be a marked man.  :)

  295. Kooch7800 says:

    I think the part about Price is he keeps saying don’t worry it is only preseason….which I agree that this is the time to hone your skills in but the regular season is less that two weeks away.  This is where I get ticked when dump our AHL up and comer to TBay for nothing.

  296. Kooch7800 says:

    if it is on RIS….I am not watching

  297. HabFanSince72 says:

    Come on PG, sign Theo.

    We’re  past worrying about the media, the fan pressure, the French thing.

    We need an NHL goalie.

  298. SPATS says:

    Yeah I know it’s preseason, but seriously! It’s just too painful to watch. I’ve never trolled here before and I’m just saying what most here must be thinking. PG must be drinking from the koolaid bottle BG left in the bottom drawer. Hey Pierre, Price was never all that and here’s the proof. He goes down early and often and unless they allow you to sew a couple of bungy cords between his back and the cross bar, it’s not gonna work. There is simply too much going against him for him to ever recover. He’s aloof and pretty. He’s used to getting his way. The team are saying all the right things but what can they do? They want Jaro back. Get him back. Or, get a bag of pucks while you can. Send him to Opryland for SK for crissakes.

  299. Curtis O Habs says:

      He has not been able to make a one on one save in a while.  Beaten to one side or the other only able throw out the pad like a road hockey goalie.  No lateral butterfly movement.

  300. habbyone says:

    I think price is baked but he has a yeast infection.

  301. lavie says:

    But the Team B was playing good.

  302. Habs4ever Fan says:

    I have a feeling

    That this season’s gonnabe a last one for Price

    Price needs to overcome accepting that he belongs on the bench as a back up to Leighton

  303. SeriousFan09 says:

    Chicago didn’t know which Huet or Niemi would be in nets on any given night (both had very ON, than OFF nights in 09-10), they still managed to shut out the opposition for 11 of their 52 wins last season. They didn’t stop playing for anything, comebacks were their bread and butter, good teams with leadership keep competing no matter what. You play tentatively because you’re worried about your goalie not stopping the puck, you’re going to lose a lot. PHI did much the same thing through the playoffs, they were never sure what kind of goaltending they had but they still kept going.

    Especially when your goalie isn’t playing that well, you need to play better than ever to secure the win. Let the goalie know you’ll give him a hand when he’s having a rough night, play better defence and score. It will be a two-way street between Carey and the team, they’ll need to know he can make the big stops at times (Which he hasn’t really done so far, but has in the past) and they’ll give him a hand when he’s having trouble. Too much has been talked about Carey deflating the team, how does Price feel when he knows the team is playing like they expect him to fail? It’s called teamwork, they need to meet in the middle.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  304. Curtis O Habs says:

    This monotone, calm schtick is getting old.  Time to show the fans some fire, anger, regret, pride, excitement, a sense of humour, anything to show the fans you have a pulse and give a damn Carey.

  305. HardHabits says:

    Price just needs to go through puberty.

  306. showey47 says:

    No matter how he answer’s questions it will always be twisted into something else. If he shows a sense of humour its because he doesn’t care. If he shows anger,he cares too much or is unstable. He knows it,that’s why he just sticks to the cliche’s and doesn’t show any emotion. Why not,soon enough the media might get sick of asking him questions and getting the same cliche answers in return. Then maybe they can go ask spacek why he looks like he has never played defence before.

  307. andrewberkshire says:

    This is exactly what I was talking about when people bitched that Price didn’t talk to the media last time. Nothing is good enough.

  308. von says:

    It’s only pre-season, so I’m not going to go crazy like a lot of people on here/around the league, but Spacek has been absolutely brutal in the two games I’ve seen him play. Some terrible turnovers.

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    “Obviously it would be great, but they don’t really hang conference titles in this rink. They raise Stanley Cup banners.” – Carey Price

  309. likehoy says:

    maybe spacek was a halak fan.

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  310. SeriousFan09 says:

    I just don’t think he’s trying very hard because it’s pre-season and he doesn’t want to risk injury before the season starts, a lot of veterans detest pre-season, you might say it’s a bit odd Roman Hamrlik is always injured just for the length of pre-season over the last 3 years…

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  311. likehoy says:

    i dunno, did you not see spacek dive into a clearing attempt on the 5 on 3 last night? it was pretty brave….and then his game deteriorated from there.

    i never noticed the hamrlik thing, but it kind of makes sense now.

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  312. SeriousFan09 says:

    He’s obviously not going to completely throw his game, but I doubt he’s going all-out right now. I think we’ll see him stronger in the last couple of pre-season games when it’s the actual team playing and they’re getting all into their rhythm together.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  313. LA Loyalist says:

    It’s interesting to observe.

    Certainly the vets are not going to go all out, nor should they. We need them in April.

    But when you’re on the ice with a bunch of sugared up rookies trying to make an impression you need to be on your game to a certain extent.

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  314. Chuck says:

    Holy F’n Chicken Little, people.

  315. likehoy says:

    so..is this pro-price or anti-price? i can’t tell ;)

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  316. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pretty much, you’d we were down 0-3 in a playoff series.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  317. tony d says:

    Maybe if Carey had played half a game, things would’ve worked out better. He didn’t do too badly up until the end of the 2nd. JM shoulda put in a rookie for the 2nd half.

  318. SmartDog says:

    Last year he was good for 50 minutes.  This year for 20.

    We can only hope he finds his feet in the next week. 

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  319. petefleet says:

    Maybe JM can do that all year.  That way all their goalies get to play and CP won’t look so bad in the second half of the games when his attention starts to wonder back to the rodeo or bong or whatever.

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  320. Rob D says:

    Chuck..bingo!

    Spacek looks like the Jr. A fifth round pick up for a look see..and the view is pretty horrifying…lol.

    I don’t think, other than Cammy, that the C’s had a single guy out there with a scoring touch tonight. I hate Spezza because of his overall laziness on the defensive end but that goal he scored on CArey from the slot was sweet. the delay..the shift..the release.. We have noone like that. Cammy has a great shot and release but he can’t seem to pass . He should just be receiving the pass and letting go the one timer. Tonight he had to pretend to be the playmaker and it didin’t add up to much.

    With all hands on deck..this team is fighting for eighth in the EAst. The vets are very good but not elite, the younger guys are mediocre (MaxPac, Pouliot,) and the promising talent is too green (Tinordi, Leblanc) Thank goodness for PK. He’ll make many games interesting this year.

    It would be great if Carey hit his stride and help us win a lot of games we might not win without great goaltending. I am beginning to think that the fans won’t let that happen. I have never seen so much hate directed towards a player on the Habs for such a sustained period of time..All offseason and it seems to be building momentum through the preseason. I hope management can weather the storm but even here in Ottawa, the local media are all over the story. The focus seems to be “will the fans of Mtl. drive him out of town? and would that be the best for all concerned?” rather than “Price sucks” . Most of them feel he’s a legit talent who will need a lot of help to get to the level expected of a high draft pick. I hope that however it works out..if he is exposed as a mediocre player or proves himself an able NHL player..that it happens IN MONTREAL. Not in some other city. I will be deeply disappointed in management and in many of my fellow Habs fans if he ends up leaving in a trade before he has a chance to take the reins for a full year. He’s a Montreal Canadien to me. I think many other fans haven’t let him be that. But that’s their right.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  321. Bugs says:

    Didn’t his sv pct improve in his 2nd game?

    If he keeps on this trend, there’ll come a time when opposing teams will have to shoot 100 times! to score six goals on him.

    That’s good, isn’t it?

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  322. Bugs says:

    Pot-stirrer!

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  323. HNS says:

    Smoker, not stirrer.

  324. joeybarrie says:

    Halak 5 goals on 29 shots in the Canadiens first three Pre-season games in 2008-2009… .824 SV% and 5.0 GAA…  So I am not particularly worried about how our goalies perform when half our actual team is playing in games that don’t count. Taking meaning from these stats in these games is similar to taking stats in practice…

    Jaro Halak’s first 10 games last season    .890 SV%  2.90 GAA  

    Carey Price’s first 10 games last season   .885 SV%  3.00 GAA

    HALAK  .914 SV% after the first 3 months of the season.  (11w – 6l)   55 goals – AVG 3.24 GPG

    PRICE  .918 SV% after the first 3 months of the season.  (10w – 13l)  67 goals – AVG 2.48 GPG

    Price saved more pucks, and performed better than Halak did (SV%) Yet somehow Halak has half the amount of loses. And people are trying to say that the team performed the same in front of both goalies…

    WE ARE HOLDING PRICE TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD. Just give the kid a REAL chance…

    Don’t take this post the worng way, I know full well Halak played great last season, and is a great goalie. I support them both. But we are going so crazy here about 3 pre-season games you would think we were about to enter the playoffs…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  325. Bugs says:

    You don’t need to stop AS MANY to make the GAME-SAVERS. Like Halak did.

    And where the Kid still needs to improve on.

    No?

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  326. LA Loyalist says:

    That’s not an option, we couldn’t get anything for him “as is”. 

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  327. Bob Dobbs says:

    What in the world are you talking about? Everyone was saying we could have gotten as much for him as we got for Halak, some say we could have gotten more. But because of two bad pre-season performances his value has nose-dived to zero??? Ridiculous.

  328. Habsrule1 says:

    I swear to God some people think preseason means as much as the Stanley Cup finals. It’s a good thing the Habs coaching staff know the difference.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  329. showey47 says:

    It has nothing to do with it being pre-season to these people. It has everything to do with who is in net. It wouldn’t be a story to these guys if price only played half the game and delmas comes in and gets lit up instead. It isn’t a story if its the “B” squad. If it was halak in net the story  would be all about spacek sucking ass and leaving halak out to dry.  Its just a group fans that are upset halak was traded,not about actually losing meaningless pre-season games.

  330. LA Loyalist says:

    It’s pro-Habs if the problem can be solved.

    Or it could be a very long year.

  331. Chuck says:

    Haha!

    Carey will be fine. Once the defense rounds into shape an stops putting their goalie in situations to fail, we’ll start to see different results.

    He single-handedly stopped a number of odd-man rushes last night, including a couple of 3-on-1’s, which are generally the toughest to stop. He looked engaged and aggressive by coming out and challenging the shooters. Unfortunately when you leave the opposition alone with the puck in front of the goalie–regardless of which goalie it is–bad things are going to happen.

    Plekanec scored by going in alone on the Ottawa goal last night, but no one is saying that their goalie sucked because of it. AK46 scored in that way the previous game, and no one was ripping apart the goaltending for not making the save, were they? How about Rask in the game against Boston? We scored two on him, both on odd-man rushes that were the results of breakdowns by the Boston defense… but no one was looking to rip Rask a new one.

    Look at it this way: there’s a reason why the NHL is using shootouts to end games. It’s because it’s guaranteed that goalies WILL get scored on when a shooter is alone with the puck.

    The first goal was the result of an odd deflection. The Spezza goal from the side of the net should not go in unless your last name is Leighton. But other than that, every goal was the result of a defensive breakdown that puts a goalie at the disadvantage.

    I know that it rubbed a few people the wrong way when Carey said that he wasn’t going to lose sleep over it. But you know what? I slept pretty soundly last night, too.

     

  332. likehoy says:

    i noticed as well the analysis of the plekanec and the kostitsyn goals…but no one said anything.

    but it’d be nice if once in a while price makes a gigantic save on a breakaway that keeps the team in the game. price used to be good at the 1 on 1 situations…i guess he lost his confidence.

    at any rate, jaro halak was terrible on breakaways too…he had one move and it was to attempt to spread his legs post to post every time…leaving the top half of the net open.

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  333. joeybarrie says:

    I do agree with that. We have put alot of faith into this kid. He hasn’t done as badly as what everyone is saying…HOWEVER, the kid needs to step up to the plate and show we were right in our assesments. I will honestly be pretty let down if he has a bad season. But we have to see what he does when it counts. You are correct about his game getting tighter and improving on the weakness’, but this falls on the management and coaches as well.

    I still think the kid will deliver this season. But I do have doubts… I just feel there is no reason to concentrate on the doubts until they happen… IF THEY HAPPEN. I don’t want to act as if he has already ruined our season…

    Brings up another point. We, as a team, have to score more goals and improve our game too…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  334. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    After the first preseason game, all the players that were interviewed said they needed their fans behind them.  Wouldn’t it just be best to do as they ask? Whether you love, hate or are indifferent toward Price, he is our goalie.  And as improved as the team would surely be if we were a collective GM, it appears as though PG isn’t going to make his decisions based on what we say. No use crying over spilt milk, especially crying so hard it’s having an effect on the team we all love.  We, the fans, are hurting our team right now.  Carey has to be feeling awfully lonely and anxious.  Maybe if we got behind him it’d help. Even if there is only a 0.1% chance that it would do so, that’s better odds than all the help crying, bitching and moaning will provide.

    This is about the team folks.  It’s funny how we (rightly) criticize the players who play for themselves and not the team, but forget to apply it to ourselves. It seems to me that some on here just want to be right, whether for or against Carey. I’m calling out all the Price-bashers here, not because you are wrong about Price, you might very well be right.  But ask yourselves, is this lynching of Carey hurting or helping the team?  Because, to me, that is the only question that matters.

    Blind faith and support is not a good thing to hold in political leaders, but perhaps for hockey it is best.  Carey sure could use it now. 

    So c’mon Carey!!

  335. 1010 says:

    I kinda feel guilty after reading this. All that has ever mattered to me is whether or not the boys win. And, while feeling some shame, it’s all that ever will matter to me.

     

     GO HABS…

  336. Bob Dobbs says:

    “It’s funny how we (rightly) criticize the players who play for themselves and not the team, but forget to apply it to ourselves.”

    Well said!

  337. Bugs says:

    Oh my gooooosh…

    Tell us, Ghostie, what violin track do you suggest for this reading? I’m gagging on schmaltz over here.

    Go back to Disneyworld, Bambi!

    Go write some more Hallmark cards, you dew-eyed freak!

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  338. Habsrule1 says:

    Come on Bugsy….look further than your own backyard. Plent of teams, playes and goalies are looking rusty. I know that because I follow preseason really close cause it’s so important :-P

    Seriously….I know you’re not panicking yet.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  339. Bugs says:

    So have Price play Leclaire then.

    For the Rusty Cup.

    Ha! I kill me!

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  340. joeybarrie says:

    Its true. except for our old guy who wasn’t looking to stellar in his first performance either. But our guys does look rusty. And thats all I care about…… The big thing. If he shakes the rust and plays like he did in 2008, who in the hell cares how rusty he looked?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  341. likehoy says:

    leclaire looked rusty.

    at any rate, did you not realize price played less than 20 games in the year of 2010 so far..

    where as rask and elliot carried the load nearing the end

    - I support Carey Price as the Number 1 Goalie!

  342. Bugs says:

    So let’s play these other rusty goalies then.

    Cuz the Kid apparently only gets to play against goalies less rusty than him and sooner or later, it’ll start to affect his confidence.

    Reprovingly reproof-proof, here sits

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  343. HNS says:

    Missed the game last nite, watched the TSN highlights. Wholly Shnikes. Price won’t make it and someone is gonna loose their job over that stupid decision. I wonder who………?????

  344. Habsrule1 says:

    Price will be fine. “Chill out and relax”…..they are not winning the Stanley Cup in the preseason!

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  345. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    see below

  346. nightmare_49 says:

      

      

    Former New York Islanders and Devils tough guy Garry Howatt takes his fight to the rodeo

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hockey/2010/09/25/2010-09-25_brawler_howatt_takes_his_fight_to_the_rodeo.html#ixzz10dYiFlPB

  347. nightmare_49 says:

      

        Last year, Bruins PP was 21.5% w/Savard and 9.6% w/o Savard.

  348. smiler2729 says:

    I don’t put any stock or pass any judgments in any pre-season games, each player is doing their best at working out any new moves or any old kinks in their game.

    But if Joe Idiot Fan wants to rag all over the goalie or whatever, it is what it is. When the puck drops FOR REAL, I expect the team to compete as they did last season and end up qualifying for the playoffs again… and THAT is where their mettle will be tested.

    Joe Idiot Fan, though, from his seat in the arena or his couch at home, is a better goalie than Carey Price, a better defenseman than Roman Hamrlik and a better forward than Scott Gomez…

  349. adam76 says:

    Is it lonely up on your pedestal?

  350. observer says:

    get real. if any other goalie here would have played the way price did and had the same results as he has had since january 1, 2009 everyone would have been against him especially so when whatever goalie replaced him then did better much better than him with the team. it is nearing 2 full years of poor play. just because he has a pedigree when he was a child in this game and gainey/gauthier refuse to admit they are wrong you self proclaimed fans support him. if he had no pedigree like ryan leaf, like daigle, like tim couch, etc., etc. yoiu woould not be backing any goalie here who played this way since the beginning of jan. 2009.

  351. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Well, Plekanec the Mechanic still looks good. Not much else in that game. Spacek was not very good, yeah Price let in a softy one (very soft goal), but I thought in the 3rd he really looked better. I thought last night’s game was a better one for him than his first.

    Don’t panic, it is pre-season (remember how well the Leafs did last year in preseason, did that carry over when it started to count?). Sure the way things look now are bleak, but I got a good feeling about the games that matter.

    GO HABS GO!

  352. SmartDog says:

    Hey Riverview!

    Plekanec the Mechanic!  I think that ones’ mine  He sure does look good.  Best signing in years… that and Cammalleri. Pleks is an honest player who takes his job seriously and contributes in so many ways. I love the guy.

    I agree with the ‘don’t panic’ thing.  It’s pre-season.  Price, Spacek et all may all find their groove.  The thing about Price that I find sad is they’ve annointed this guy our heor what? Three, four times now?  To no fault of his own really he’s become a soap opera… and he KNOWs he CAN’t struggle much longer. Too much on this kid STILL.   Poorly managed by Gainey, now poorly managed by Gautheir.  Sad.  And sad for us fans too.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  353. nightmare_49 says:

     

       Here’s the Wild’s probable lineup for Sunday’s game in Montreal:

       Forwards: Almond, Brodziak, Clutterbuck, Cullen, DiSalvatore, Earl, Gillies, Kalus, Kobasew, Latendresse, Miettinen, Peters, Staubitz. Defensemen: Bagnall, Barker, Falk, Noreau, Scandella, Stoner, Zidlicky. Goalies: Khudobin (plan is for full game), Hackett.

       from Russo’s Rant.

  354. SmartDog says:

    Yeah but will Lats still be wearin’ women’s underwear?

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  355. observer says:

     Hackett? wow!

  356. DOAHABS says:

    Price reminds me of the greatest boxer in the world,who kept getting knocked out ,before he could show ‘how good he is’

    Yikes 3 plus years & he’s showed one thing —he’s not that good. Not bashing but making an observation.

    I wish he would show us his talent,however I do suspect that he’s not Montreal calibre material.

    Giving him the constant “give the kid a break routine is wearing thin’  Is there another goaltender in the NHL with as many 5 plus goals against in their carreer,let alone pre-season.

       Go Habs Go………………………………….I suggest without Carey,..I hope I’m proven wrong,but all I want to see is a winning team.

  357. ZepFan2 says:

    Yikes 3 plus years & he’s showed one thing —he’s not that good…

    Really? 3 plus years you say?

    Here’s another observation…

    M-A Fleury

    1st yr. – 22gp – 4 – 14 – 0.896%

    2nd yr. – 50gp – 13 – 27 – 0.898%

    3rd yr. – 67gp – 40 – 16 – 0.906%

    4th yr. – 35gp – 19 – 10 – 0.921% – sent back to minors

    5th yr. – 62gp – 35 – 18 – 0.912% – won Stanley cup

    6th yr. – 67gp – 37 – 21 – 0.905%

    Carey Price

    1st year – 41gp – 24 – 12 – 0.920%

    2nd yr. – 52gp – 23 – 16 – 0.905% – started yr. in minors

    3rd yr. – 41gp – 13 – 20 – 0.912%

    There are no stats for preseason (shocker).

    My point here is, give it time.

    ————————————————————————–

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  358. RetroMikey says:

    Winning a World Junior Championship Gold medal and a Calder Cup ring in Hamilton does NOT guarantee you success in the NHL.

    You have to earn that ticket to play with the best of the best and not be given that free VIP pass to the NHL.

    I just want the kid to succeed but is he really ready for prime time in the NHL and perform?

    Come on Carey, prove us all wrong!

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  359. SmartDog says:

    Hear! Hear!

    Forget all the BS (including ours!), and get MAD!  Mad enough to practice with fire and play each game like a demon possessed. 

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  360. nightmare_49 says:

     

       Union $tepped up for Devils

       by Larry Brooks

      

       Brookie’s Slap Shots has been told that the delay of approximately 12 hours in finalizing the agreement reached in the early hours of Sept. 4 was caused by the PA’s insistence that the Devils not be penalized with a loss of cap space for having been found guilty of circumvention by arbitrator Richard Bloch on the first Kovalchuk contract submission.

       The NHL, we’re told, finally yielded after it became clear that the union, protecting up to $3 million of New Jersey’s potential payroll, was not going to surrender on the issue.

       Somehow we doubt that Lamoriello will be spending much time badmouthing Donald Fehr over the next two years.

  361. quentin_stuckley says:

    holy wow, the habs lost, carey got shelled,  and the sun still rose this morning.  t’is odd, no?

  362. matraque says:

    I’m not seeing any sun this morning.

    It’s like saying Price is the more talented… but i don’t see the talent.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  363. Clay4bc says:

    That all depends on the part of the world you’re in…it’s quite dark here.

    And Price still has a long way to go. If he’s to go up, that is…it’s a very short trip to the bottom from where he’s at.

    __________________________

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    — George Orwell –

  364. nightmare_49 says:

     

       Avery’s New Friend:

       Getting Kovalchuk off His Game – plus vid.

       Later in the game they exchanged pleasantries once again across the benches, which surprisingly included a threatening ear-to-ear gesture across the throat, from, of all people, Kovalchuk. 

       As an aside, that move might very well make Ilya miss opening night.  Nick Boynton was just suspended for the very same motion, something the league is cracking down on this season.  That’s, of course, assuming consistency in the suspension department, a topic for another time.

  365. smiler2729 says:

    Exceedingly lonely, brother.

  366. petefleet says:

    Yup

    Gonna Be A Long Season Without a Goalie

  367. Clay4bc says:

    He’s got something to prove…he’ll be on a mission for that game. He’ll put the panties on later, after the game.

    __________________________

    If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.

    – George Orwell –

  368. Bill J says:

    Some would say – there’s only one way now – up ;)

    It’s preseason, let’s wait to see what happens when a full team of NHL’ers are playing in front of Carey.

    :)


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