Video: Pateryn, Dumont in as Habs set to face Lightning

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Canadiens defenceman Greg Pateryn talks to the media following Saturday’s morning skate. He’ll make his NHL début vs. the Tampa Bay Lightning.
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The Canadiens, 15-5-4 and atop the NHL’s Eastern Conference, take on the bottom-feeding Tampa Bay Lightning tonight at 7 p.m. ET to kick off a weekend doubleheader in the Sunshine State.

Lineup changes for the Canadiens: Hamilton Bulldogs callup Greg Pateryn will replace Tomas Kaberle on the blue line, while Gabriel Dumont will sub in on the fourth line, sending Ryan White to the press box. Dumont will play with Travis Moen and Colby Armstrong. Carey Price is in goal for the Habs.

Lightning head coach Guy Boucher announced that Cédrick Desjardins, a former Canadiens farmhand, will be his starting goaltender. Desjardins now will have played two-thirds of his NHL games against the Habs; he beat Montreal 4-1 on Dec. 30, 2010 in his NHL début, then defeated the New York Rangers the following night.

Live updates were via Twitter. Follow me at @Dave_Stubbs for more on the Habs beat, including live stuff during tonight’s game and tomorrow’s 6 p.m. ET start in Sunrise, Fla., vs. the Florida Panthers.

Video below.

Here’s callup Greg Pateryn, a few hours before his NHL début:

Head coach Michel Therrien, en français (apologies for the audio rumble of unknown source):

Crank up your volume on this one:

And a little skate-by action at the Tampa Bay Times Forum on Saturday morning:

 

261 Comments

  1. calvee123 says:

    Well, I arrived at work, didn’t listen to the game coming in. Seen the score at 3-1 Tampa. I thought, well 3-1, the worst lead in hockey, they can come back if they pot one. When I got to check on the score once again, the score was 4-3 Habs! Wow, I thought yes, that is the worst lead in the world 3-1. What a come back. I hope Brandon Prust heals fast and doesn’t come back too soon, so he is ready for (in case we make) the play-offs. ( I think we will make them)

  2. chartraw says:

    I thought Kaberle was skating and moving the puck well. Now number nine on their depth chart -very surprised by this.
    Have to agree in principle with some of the comments regarding the Oilers. The league would have to consider changes to the draft system if they pull yet another top pick.

  3. Les-Habitants says:

    I’m excited to see Pateryn play – he’s been the top defenseman in Hamilton whenever he’s been playing. He’s a big dman, who can hit and hopefully can be the crease clearer we’ve been missing. Kaberle has been playing his off-side, and while he’s been keeping it simple he’s not adding much right now. Pateryn brings size and a physical edge that we are missing.

    White’s been ok, but he definitely hasn’t been helping his cause recently. Therrien and the coaches love him, and have admitted as much, but he’s been making some dumb decisions out there. The 4th line has been lackluster of late, so hopefully Dumont – who is smart and has wheels – can get them going.

  4. Gally27 says:

    5 – 2 Habs Gally with 2, Ryder, Prust, Subban

  5. Seps says:

    I haven’t seen Pateryn play so excuse me if Im off the boat on this one but could he be relatable to Ryan McDonaugh? Same size, from NCAA as well, both seem more defensive then offensive but can chip in from time-to-time… Maybe the Grabo trade got us our McDonaugh back? *hoping*

    • Bill J says:

      Quite possible, I remember that Pateryn was high on Timmins’s list for the draft, was mentioned after the trade in a few media reports.

      And if TT likes him, he’s good ;).


      Go Habs Go!

      • Price07 says:

        Mcdonagh was a 12th overall pick, Pateryn wasn a 5th round pick. Timmons chose several players before the leafs took Pateryn..not even close lol

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I heard he’s more like a bigger Gorges

    • zephyr says:

      i saw pateryn play for the dogs b4 he got hurt. he was their best dman then. tinordi & beaulieu were still a bit tentative then as the dogs were only a few games into the season when i saw them. pateryn has size, can move the puck, played on the pp & was pretty mobile. i saw the dogs play the marlies & their speed guys couldn’t beat him on the edge. he was a very steady defender. i remember wishing he’d take the body a bit more but he looked to me like he was ready.

  6. deuce6 says:

    Guys, we are in 1st place, but it still doesn’t mean this isn’t an evaluation year for Bergevin and his staff..He needs to see what he has in the system to properly evaluate it…I have no problem,. whatsoever, in giving kids a shot over guys with diminishing skill like Kaberle..Kaberle is NOT in the future of this team past this season..Pateryn is…

    I don’t see the point in not getting the kids some playing time in limited roles just to evaluate what we have…

    The management team has done a great job, this year, so far..Where is the doubt coming from? I bought whatever they are selling, and I am a HUGE Hab critic..lol

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  7. Sean Bonjovi says:

    So, Armstrong and Bouillon are Always in the line-up, but after that it’s a pure meritocracy?

    • deuce6 says:

      Army hasn’t hurt us and he has a great defensive game..Boullion brings grit/leadership on the back end and also hasn’t been hurting us..The last few games he hasn’t been on his proper side of the rink…Adding Pateryn to the line up allows Soups to go back to his more natural side..

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  8. Psycho29 says:

    I wonder what Don Cherry will have to say about the Dziurzynski-McLaren fight this week and the media fallout afterwards?
    Hopefully Ron McLean will be able to keep him calm! LOL

    I predict someone will be called a “Pinko” or a “Tree-Hugger” ;-)

  9. HabLion says:

    That St. Hubert pop up from the bottom is extremely f’n annoying! Not enough advertising revenue on the top side and bottom of the page…now pop-ups!?

  10. Stevie.Ray says:

    Most often when You call up a player to the NHL to serve as the extra guy during a road trip, you give him a chance to play one game at least. Doesn’t it make sense that Dumont, a center, replaces the center of the 4th line?

  11. Strabo says:

    Since the Dogs aren’t going to make the playoffs this year. Who do you think will be the Black Aces when the Habs make the playoffs?

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  12. frontenac1 says:

    Thornton and Renaldo just squared off in Beantown.Decision Thornton.

  13. HabLion says:

    Why should we crank up the Carey Price video? Somebody mumbles something in the background but I can’t hear it….anybody know what was said?

  14. habs001 says:

    14th pk okay for now but not good enough for playoff success…

  15. tyshow89 says:

    Word is the habs had some scouts at the blue jackets/ Red wings game this afternoon…. Wonder who we are taking a look at…
    is Brassard still on habs radar these days? or would we be looking for another tough guy like boll or gillies?
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  16. habsfan0 says:

    Is White in Therrien’s doghouse..again?
    He’s been in there more often than Snoopy recently.

  17. Danno says:

    (from above video in French)

    Renaud Lavoie asks Michel Therien what kind of player Greg Pateryn is and he responds:

    He was the most dependable defenceman since the start of the season with the Bulldogs, even though he suffered a rather major injury, the coaching staff and Patrice Brisebois had nothing but good things to say about him.

    He’s a defenseman who plays a defensive game who you can rely on to play well to cover his zone, to make a good first pass and ensure the play remains simple. So, it’s a great opportunity for him.

    On Gabriel Dumont:

    We want to give Gabriel an opportunity. We wanted to find a time where we could use him during this road trip to see what he could do at this level. He deserves to be here. He’s the best player on the Bulldogs since the begining of the season. His performances are very consistent. So he deserves his chance and we tried to find the ideal time to fit him into the lineup. And at the same time we wanted to add a bit more offensive punch to our fourth line.

    Asked if it was a difficult decision – in terms of chemistry etc. – to sit two veterans to make room for Peteryn and Dumont, Therien responded:

    For me, it’s the players’ performances that I take into account to determine these changes. I also look at the results of the team, but the results of individuals is very important too.

    Asked if Peteryn brings toughness, which was an element some would say was lacking with the Habs’ defence Therien replied:

    Listen, we have some very good young players which we want to help in the development process in Hamilton who are doing quite well and are constantly improving – like Beaulieu and Tinordi. But Peteryn is a player who is more mature. He played college hockey in the US. He’s in his 20′s and is making his pro debut this year. The fact that he is a right-handed player is an advantage, so Francis (Bouillon) will be able to play his side. Lately when he played with Kaberle we asked him to play on the right which made a bit more difficult for him the past game. So it’s a great opportunity for Peteryn to participate in his first NHL game.

    Reporter asks what message it sends to Kaberle to be sat down due to the introduction of Peteryn, Therien responds:

    Well, he has to be better. It’s as simple as that.

    Renaud Lavoie asks if this sends a message to the players on the Bulldogs if you work hard and get good results you will be rewarded, Therien responds:

    For all the players in the AHL it’s very important that they maintain the right attitude and a good work ethic. Their performance is important. When you put it all together and put luck on your side when a situation arises where the big club has a need for another player, you just never know what might happen. So you need to work to put all the luck on your side and you need to stay focused on their develepment too. But definitely, whether it’s in the case of a defenseman or a forward the performances will determine these things.

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  18. Mr. Biter says:

    Ever since White’s 2nd benching he has not been playing his game. Barley hits, not getting into anyone’s face not crashing the net. Obviously worried that another fighting penalty (Ala. Chara) can get him back in the press box. To bad as he made the 4th line tick.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  19. frontenac1 says:

    Some of you think Jullien and Torts are nuts? Check out the Vityaz coach.Jeesh!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXrqv7jQ6u8

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      When army soldiers tell you to leave…you leave.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Chuck says:

        Problem #1 is that they need the army at the game for security!

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        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Who were those guys in fatigues?

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • HabFab says:

            Special police (reaction/riot/combat). The guy wearing the red beret has passed a Special Forces/ Rangers type training.

  20. Bill says:

    If Bergevin wanted to trade Erik Cole to the Dallas Stars for a pending UFA rental, why couldn’t it have been Brendan Morrow instead of Ryder? Could sure use some help on the LW.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  21. 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

    A little love for Colby from a fan who used to consider him a dangerous head hunter and owed a punch in the schnauze from Brisebois on behalf of the organizaton …

    With hands of stone that make Moen look like Crosby and a clean scoresheet game after game, only a die hard fan realizes Armstrong is actually out there and needs to be sent to the pressbox.

    However, there is a Skrudkandesque quality to his game – not getting rattled, making quiet but smart plays to protect the puck, keep the other team in their zone and keep passes out of the slot on the kill. Throw in stealth hits and the overall consistency, game in game out keeps him in the lineup.

    One less thing for a coach to think about in the NHL is a very good thing. Could someone else do it better? Perhaps, but until the role he plays becomes a problem area, he will keep on, keeping up.

    “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • LizardKing12 says:

      Well said, I agree. I understand why many want him out of the line-up. He has not brought the grit and physicality that many had expected when he was signed. However, like you mentioned he has been effective on the PK and does a good job protecting the puck and wearing out the opposing D by cycling the puck in the offensive zone.

      Therrien knows that game in game out Colby can be relied upon to do his job without making significant mistakes. Until Colby starts costing us games with bad defensive play he will not be taken out of the line-up

  22. Chris says:

    I really don’t get this. We have a veteran defenceman who has actually been playing well of late making $4.5 M who Therrien is going to sit so that he can play Greg Pateryn for 10 minutes. This one is a head scratcher.

    Pateryn quite simply is not as effective as Tomas Kaberle. Perhaps he will be someday, but the learning curve is steep for defencemen coming up out of the AHL. I could get playing Pateryn if Kaberle was injured and they had no other options.

    I haven’t heard anything that Kaberle is under the weather or battling a nagging injury. Odd.

    • Psycho29 says:

      Could be a deal coming and they don’t want to risk injury?

      • Chris says:

        Kaberle could just as easily get hurt in practice. I think this injury thing is really, really overblown when it comes to buyouts.

        Kaberle has been playing reasonably well if you ignore his paycheque and focus on the role he is being asked to play. When you throw in that the team is paying him anyways, it just doesn’t make all that much sense.

        And Kaberle has had one season since 1999 where he has played fewer than 69 games. He’s not a guy that typically gets all that banged up because of his style of play.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Kabrele is obviously being moved and they are trying to evaluate some other players. Pateryn is a good d man and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. he is a solid d man

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Chris says:

        Pateryn is a good defenceman in the AHL. We’ll see if he can skate at the NHL level. The jump is huge.

        Kaberle is an NHL calibre defenceman. Pateryn might be someday. I hope that it is a trade that is in the works and not just the team monkeying around again because they don’t want to risk an injury to their buyout target.

        Doing that once with Gomez was bad enough, forcing the league into changing the agreed upon rules because of the embarrassment factor. Twice in one season by one franchise would be a little eyebrow raising.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Very easy to explain, Kaberle sucks! Also, MT would probably like to add a little more grit on the backend, so that is why a 6’2″ 215lb defenceman is in and the very soft Kaberle is out.

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Chris, consider the possibility that they are looking to assess the viability of a RH stay at home defenceman – as opposed to what they currently have and Pateryn has the age and maturity to get the start.

      They are not scratching at a playoff spot and they have two games on the road back to back.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

      • Chris says:

        Pateryn is in his first season in the AHL, and hasn’t been dominating that league. There’s not particularly a big rush on this.

        I’m just always wary of getting cute with roster spots. Tampa Bay might be lower in the standings, but they remain a very dangerous opponent with that offence. I would be more comfortable if your explanation was correct and they put Pateryn in against the more offensively anemic Panthers. St. Louis, Lecavalier, Stamkos and the rest of the Lightning forwards have made a lot of NHL defencemen look like pylons, so that is a bit of pressure for an AHL kid in his first game.

        • LizardKing12 says:

          You never know what you’re going to get when you bring a guy up from the AHL. Gallagher was not lighting up the AHL, with 20 points in 36 games he was producing at 0.55 points per game. In the NHL he has produced at 0.65 points per game.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Salary is irrelevant when it comes to playing time. Playing well? He played 11 minutes and was -2 in his last game. His best game was against Pitt where he played with PK and still only played 12 minutes. I’m not sure what you mean by effective. Kaberle can’t play defence and is not physical at all. I don’t blame the Habs for giving a good prospect a chance. Worked with Gallagher…

      As for those who think Kaberle should be showcased so he can be traded…give it up. Our GM just traded a $4.5 million power forward just to get rid of his contract. You don’t think he’s tried to get rid of Kaberle yet? Nobody wants him. Nobody. He’s a buyout waiting to happen.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Chris says:

        Now go back and watch the video of the goals for which he was on the ice…we discussed it quite a bit after the game.

        Kaberle did pretty much everything right on both plays. Unfortunately, Price gave up a soft one and Kaberle was left alone by Bouillon and Ryder with 2 guys in front of the net. It wasn’t Kaberle’s guy that scored.

    • LizardKing12 says:

      I don’t see the harm in playing a guy like Pateryn against a struggling team like Tampa. I think that the Canadiens need a stay at home type dman for the playoff run, Pateryn plays that style and has gotten a lot of praise from Brisebois so why not evaluate him at the NHL level?

      Like you said there is a steep learning curve for NHL dmen, but you never know how individual players will respond. It is good to know what you have in your system. Seeing what Pateryn can do will give MB a better idea of what he needs to address at the deadline. Can he afford to go into the playoffs with Kaberle and Pateryn as his extra dmen, or will he need to allocate assets to bringing in a vet? No better way to find out then to see this guy in the NHL.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      He must be injured. That’s why Weber played in Carolina.

  23. mark-ID says:

    If Philly continues to struggle, I wonder what it would take to get Simmonds from them? He could take Coles spot on first line. Btw……they are losing 3-0 to bruins in first.

    • HabFab says:

      Someone as good as or better.

    • mdp2011 says:

      F…… Bruins!!!!

    • HAB - Have A Beer says:

      Philly is not struggling against the Bruins Today. The Bruins are a way better team. I would go as far to say they’re the best in the eastern conference and will be in 1st place soon.

      • Mattyleg says:

        How is it that you are so quick to claim that so many teams are better than the Habs? I don’t really understand it.

        And your praise of a team who just finished an incredible points-run and are first place in the Conference is astonishingly weak.

        Most fans would kill to have a team like Montreal to support this season, but you seem like you’d rather back someone else.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  24. otter649 says:

    Tyler Seguin starting to score goals ala Stamkos on the right side of the ice via one timer – Bruins 1 – Flyers 0…….

  25. Welks says:

    I think kaberle is out because they have to really manage his minutes to be effective. Without looking it up I think he averages about 13 minutes a game. This means that other guys have to pick up the slack. Diaz was playing about 19-20 minutes a game. Markov may burn out if they keep giving him 27 minutes a game and frankly the bull should stay around 18. So if they can get 16-18 quality minutes from the rookie then they are really ahead of the game.

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Like the idea of getting a look at both Dumont and Pateryn. Pateryn is physically ahead of both Tinordi and Beaulieu. This is a nice chance for MB to see if by chance he has a decent steady dman to help in our zone thus preventing the need to go out and buy a rental for the playoffs.

    Dumont has had a nice season in Hamilton showing good hockey IQ and great hustle.

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Armstrong or Moen have a seat instead of White. Evenutally Therrien is going to realize he doesn’t have to rely on Armstrong being his messenger of what kind of game he wants to see as the other players on the roster will have become his type of players.

    Probably won’t get to watch the game tonight, so look forward to reading all the scouting reports here tomorrow morning.

    Edit: Just saw that White is out, too bad for Ryan.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Agree. Pateryn and I share the same birth date…hopefully that does not work against him!

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Bill says:

      Dumont’s rep is a Gallagher-type, another little pitbull. If anything he’s scrappier than Gallagher, little bigger, not the same kind of hands though. Could be a player!

      Therrien clearly really appreciates Armstrong (sitting White instead of him), who is definitely the Omega dog among fans. Shows how much we know I guess. Armstrong is good at supporting the puck, I will give him that.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  27. adamkennelly says:

    I like the line-up changes – refreshing to see a move like that – rather than the usual – no changes post W. Clearly they are showcasing or seeing what they have before making some moves. Good luck to Greg and Gabriel – actually looking forward to a Sat game vs. TB.

  28. WindsorHab-10 says:

    All I want is a win in Tampa. Good luck Pateryn, Dumont & Go Habs!!!

  29. Stevie.Ray says:

    It’s funny how every year the rumours surrounding Anaheim are centered on Ryan but now that Anaheim might not be able to afford Perry, there is not a peep about moving Ryan to make room for Perry.

    Ryan seems like the type of player MB would want. Big, skilled, quick, 5.5m for the next two seasons. Curious what it would take to get him?

  30. Bun E. Laroque says:

    Looking forward to Pateryn and Dumont. Easier to come into a winning situation for a young player from the AHL rather than the ” we need help” situation of years past.

  31. Loonie says:

    Regarding these guys getting called up for trade purposes. As it relates to Pateryn, Weber and Kaberle I agree 100%.

    Kaberle played well on his return and there’s really no reason to leave him out of the lineup other than fear of him getting hurt. So either they are going to buy him out and are protecting themselves from injury or there’s an offer on the table for him. Either way Kaberle’s scratching is incredibly likely a move to protect against him getting injured.

    On Dumont/White, I’m not so sure. From what I’ve seen Dumont’s just a better player. It could be something as simple as White isn’t effective if he isn’t playing over the edge like Rinaldo or Powe. This move makes complete sense from a hockey standpoint. Dumont is more aggressive and better both offensively and defensively than White.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Any argument with me having Armstrong sit and play White?

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Dumont and White > Armstrong, I think that’s most people’s issue with it. Can’t say i’m shocked considering the way MTs done business so far this year, just trying not to b**** about it for now.

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      • Loonie says:

        I don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion that White is better than Armstrong. I think it is a forgone conclusion that Dumont is better than White.

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          First off, I’m a huge Dumont fan, fell in-love with him at the 5 Bdogs games I’ve been to this year. In a 4th line role I think he can fit, but White on the forecheck is pretty close, obviously more effective physically mainly due to his size, and isn’t brutal with the puck. I’d prefer him on the wing though with Dumont at Center. I can’t think of anything Armstrong does better than White, not skating, hitting, moving the puck, I know he used to have some offensive upside but I’ve seen none of that this year.

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          • Loonie says:

            Armstong is smarter with the puck, better passer, better penalty killer and uses his size to protect the puck better than White(imo). Better fit for a road game minimum.

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            Respectfully disagree loonie, I cringe everytime Armstrong jumps over the boards on the PK, I think you’ll turn the page on White.

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      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        If Dumont is good in the face-off circle, he is more valuable than Armstrong. Habs need right-handed centermen. Armstrong is easily replaced by White and will be next season. Their differences are not that noticeable. Armstrong’s strength is in the room but as Tony Marinaro says…”if he is so good in the room, leave him in there”…

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • LizardKing12 says:

      Scratching Kaberle could be to keep him healthy but I don’t find he has played particularly well. The only good game he had since being reinserted was against the Pens and that is because he was playing with PK and he was able to cover for a lot of Kaberle’s mistakes. Kaberle has been playing 12-13 min a game, he cannot be relied upon in the d-zone and is not nearly as effective as he used to be offensively.

      To be honest I think Bergevin is taking a look at Pateryn to give him a better idea of what needs to be addressed at the deadline. I think the Habs want to add a physical stay at home style dman. Pateryn has gotten a lot of praise from Brisebois, he is apparently very mature both mentally and physically and plays well at both ends of the ice. If Pateryn can play his game at the NHL level like Gally has done this year it could save Bergevin some assets at the deadline.

  32. 306Hab says:

    Any updates on how Diaz and Bourque are doing?

  33. Say Ash says:

    Bob Cole in the hot Florida sun. I’m sure he’ll be extra lucid tonight.

  34. gumper says:

    It only makes sense that these call-ups are intended to have a look at who can be made available for a trade next month. Looks like MT is hoping to put a package together that might include a D and a Forward. Throw in a second rounder since we have plenty…So who could we get for say, White, Weber or Kaberle and a second? Who would we want? I’m thinking the priority is a a big, tough as nails D man, someone who makes the front of the net a no-fly-zone, and who can take the punishment that teams like Toronto and Boston lay on us in our own zone.

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    • HabFab says:

      $5 + $5 + $10 = $20.
      Remember we want a $50 player at least.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      With only 6 healthy d-men, Pateryn had to be called up in case 1 gets hurt tonight they would be left with 5 for Sunday and no time to get someone on that short notice. If they were playing in Mtl or closer to home there might not have been a call-up.
      I am looking forward to seeing Pateryn play however.

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

      • Loonie says:

        If what you’re saying were completely accurate Pateryn wouldn’t be playing. They’re sitting Kaberle though his recent play hasn’t really made a scratching deserved.

        • LizardKing12 says:

          I’m not sure I agree with that. He hasn’t been able to play well enough to merrit more than 12-13 min of ice time per game. You need your #6 dman to play at least 15-16 min a game or else the guys in the top pairings will get overworked. Also did you watch the Isles game? Kaberle was horrendous, I’m really not surprised he has been scratched. He is hesitant and prone to mistakes in our end and does not bring much offensively anymore. Might as well see if Pateryn can fill the stay at home role on the defense that MB will likely try to fill at the deadline if Pateryn is not capable.

  35. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Dumont and Gallagher in the lineup…TB’s net will be crashed tonight frequently. Maybe it is an advantage to be small when it comes to net crashing…other story in the corners.

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • gumper says:

      Generally agree, but I’m always amazed at how much success DD has along the boards. Seems to be able to come up with the puck more often than not.

      The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
      Mark Twain

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        He does get clobbered sometimes…but a very robust player for the beatings he takes.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  36. Strummer says:

    I just hope Markov isn’t in for another 27 minute night.
    it’s the second game of 3 in 4 nights.

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  37. twilighthours says:

    Pateryn: right hand shot?

  38. HabFab says:

    JSportsnet – Bill Daly and John Collins will lead an NHL contingent on a fact finding mission to Sochi on Sunday. #olympichockey
    -It also should be noted that the NHLPA have already made a separate logistics trip to Sochi, in the last month.

  39. Strabo says:

    Do you think Dietz and Thrower will graduate to the Dogs?

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

    • Loonie says:

      This season? Impossible for Thrower and with Saskatoon hosting the memorial cup unlikely for Dietz.

      Edit: Actually impossible for both. Dietz doesn’t turn 20 until July but will very likely be with the Dogs next year.

      • Strabo says:

        I was thinking next year.

        “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

        • Loonie says:

          Dietz can start with Hamilton next year. He likely will.

          • Strabo says:

            This is Thrower’s fourth year as well with the Blades. Are they able to make him play a fifth?

            “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

          • Loonie says:

            He can join after four fully completed seasons of junior like Beaulieu. But with them hosting the Memorial Cup it would be a long shot.

      • HabFab says:

        Thrower’s birthday (20/12) is in the gray zone and he could turn pro as Beaulieu did. However seeing how it hasn’t been an outstanding year for him don’t see it, plus as you pointed out there is the Memorial Cup.

        • Strabo says:

          I was looking at his stats. Is he a stay at home D-man?

          “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

          • HabFab says:

            Nope, look at his stats for last year. He has been injured a lot this season plus having some issues with coaches and team mates. How bad depends on what rumor mongers you listen to.

    • issie74 says:

      Briseboise went out to Saskatoon to skate with them and evaluate for the Habs.

      NorthTOHab

      • Strabo says:

        What did he report?

        “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

      • Stevie.Ray says:

        Here’s what I can report:
        Dietz is the best player on the blades. Everyone on the team and in the organization says so. He will be a legit prospect.

        Thrower will not be.

  40. Loonie says:

    So who’s gonna be the first knucklehead to project 40 points, 200 hits and 200 blocked shots for Pateryn next season?

    Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?

  41. badbalance says:

    What u guys think about trading Markov + something/someone else for big Byfuglien. A big D like Byfuglien would solve a lot of problems for us.

    • Loonie says:

      If we’re taking a defenseman from the Jets I’d prefer Bogosian. And if they’re willing to trade Byfuglien they’re willing to trade Bogosian.

      • Phil C says:

        The report I heard on the radio is that even though they are a little diappointed with Bogosian so far,they are afraid that he’ll turn into an elite defenseman elsewhere as he has all the tools to do so. Postma was rumoured to be available in exchange for some help up front.

        • Loonie says:

          I would feel the same way in their shoes but if the reports of him being unhappy with the organization over the last three years are true he’s unlikely to ever realize that potential with the Jets.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Markov’s not going anywhere. Will finish his contract out with the Habs like Gionta. Would rather use Gorges as trade bait…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • db says:

        No way… I like Markov but he’s not worth 5.75.. if a trading partner shows up, definitely listen. Gorges is a sniper now! lol.. I would trade Gionta in a heartbeat.. I like him too, but it’s time to move on imo

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          I’m not saying whether or not Markov and Gionta deserve to stay but I’m sure the Habs won’t trade their captain and longest serving player. They’re still solid players and team leaders.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • db says:

            I agree, this club has class and if it weren’t for the cap I wouldn’t hesitate to say Markov should be a Hab for life.

    • Mattyleg says:

      That dude can’t stay in shape.
      We got rid of that guy (Guimauve) a couple of years ago.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Strummer says:

      More importantly – what would the Jets think about that deal?

      ____________________________________________________
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      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Correct. They would probably want PK or Tinordi/Beaulieu etc.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  42. Loonie says:

    Pateryn and Dumont are in per Marc Antoine Godin

  43. RetroMikey says:

    Just want to praise the team on a great game against Carolina!
    Arriving home from a business trip and watched them on my PVR.
    Yeah, I was excited for once.
    That’s what I like to see! Speed and skill to go a long way in the season and into the playoffs!
    Hope Bettman sees this and changes the game back to skilled players playing in the league and not goons.
    If not, we have to get a few big bodies on our team come playoff time.
    My little girl asked me what the CH on their jerseys stands for? Christ in heaven I say! Amen!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  44. Sportfan says:

    I hope Pateryn plays tonight, but not going to lie I might laugh if he doesn’t play cause a lot of us are expecting him to play.

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • B says:

      I imagine Pateryn is there for depth, but an injury or stinker by Kaberle tonight could give him a chance to play tomorrow.

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        “stinker by Kaberle”…that has never happened before…

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • B says:

          Kaberle actually played fairly decent his first game or two back in this season. Not that I want to see him stick around, but while he is here, it is better all around if he can at least play well most of the time when called upon (better for depth when needed and to increase the faint hopes that he can be dumped with out having to waste the last buy out).

          –Go Habs Go!–

    • CranbrookEd says:

      Dumont in for White . . . Pateryn also?

      CranbrookEd
      Mr. Beliveau: “Pure Pak mais oui”! . . . What ever happened to Johnny Jelly-Bean!?

  45. Loonie says:

    I fear the hype surrounding our new defenseman might just be a little much. Creating some very unrealistic expectations.

  46. Danno says:

    Greg Pateryn profile and fight video:
    http://dennis-kane.com/pateryn-joins-the-big-club/
    ________________________________________

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    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

    • Habfan17 says:

      2010-11: Pateryn was one of the top shut-down defenders for the University of Michigan as a junior as the Wolverines advanced to the Frozen Four national championship game. Pateryn appeared in 40 of 44 games for the Wolverines and also contributed offensively – scoring 3 goals and 14 assists to go along with his defensive prowess. Pateryn finished with a +15 plus/minus for the Wolverines, who finished first in the CCHA regular season. After finishing third in the conference tournament, Michigan played some of its best hockey in the NCAA tournament, allowing just three goals in its first three NCAA contests, including a 2-0 shutout of high-powered North Dakota in the Frozen Four semifinals.

      2011-12: Pateryn had an excellent senior season at the University of Michigan where the alternate captain scored two goals along 13 assists and a solid plus 15 rating in 41 NCAA games. The big physical defenseman was most definitely the anchor of the defense for the Wolverines where he partnered with sophomore, Mac Bennett (MTL) to form the team’s shutdown pairing. Pateryn was unable to graduate from university with an NCAA or CCHA championship this season. The Wolverines suffered losses in the CCHA championship game to Western Michigan University and the opening round of the NCCA tournament to Cornell University.

      Habfan17

  47. Timo says:

    With a foot of snow outside my window I so want to be in Florida right now.

    My 3 year old says yesterday as we go to school: “Dadda, I am tired of winter.” Kids know what they’re talking about.

  48. BJ says:

    I’m just wondering if MB wants a look at Pateryn to make a decision on wether to acquire a D with size down the stretch or if he can bring and use his size at the NHL level?

  49. HabFab says:

    HabsWorld grades the Goaltenders & D for the 2nd Quarter.

  50. habsfan0 says:

    4 years ago today,March 9,2009,Guy Carbonneau was fired as coach of the Montreal Canadiens.

    Let us observe a moment of silence.

  51. Timo says:

    Maybe it’s better if they start Patteryn tomorrow… Panthers offence looks a bit more pathetic than the Lightining’s. Then again, they got shelled by the Islanders so what do I know.

  52. gumper says:

    Can anyone enlighten me as to why Pateryn is getting the call-up? Was Weber injured in the Canes game? If that’s the case, is it likely that Kaberle will play, and Pateryn is just the 7th guy?

    The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
    Mark Twain

  53. Bun E. Laroque says:

    So Desjardins can,t make it as the Bulldogs goalie but Boucher brings him back to the NHL? Is he trying to take advantage of his resentment against the Habs? Weird. I don’t think Guy is going to last.

    • commandant says:

      Garon is injured, and Lindback can’t play every game (and has struggled lately anyway).

      Go Habs Go!
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      • HabinBurlington says:

        Tokarski been on a good roll in Hamilton Ben, I guess Tampa felt Desjardins was more NHL ready now than Tokarski.

        • B says:

          This season, Desjardin had a .905 save% in Hamilton and a .928 in Syracuse after the trade. On the other hand, Tokarski had a .900 save% in Syracuse and a .956 in Hamilton after the trade. It looks like the change of scenery sparked both of them. Note that former 1st rounder (15th overall in 2006) Riku Helenius has been even worse in nets for Syracuse this season.

          When Tampa moves into the NE Division with Montreal (stupid re-alignment move IMO) Boucher may want to call up Desjardins more often if only to play against the Habs. Here’s hoping that the Habs make Desjardins look like he belongs in the AHL and not the NHL tonight.

          Edit: I forgot the smiley (smilie?) after the Boucher calling up Desjardins for all the Habs games post re-alignment joke.

          –Go Habs Go!–

          • commandant says:

            Desjardins is UFA after the season.

            I don’t know how long Tampa will keep him, guess it depends on when Vasilevski wants to come to North America.

            Go Habs Go!
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            http://lastwordonsports.com/

        • commandant says:

          The other thing is Tokarski needs waivers to return to the NHL next season. Maybe Tampa wanted a better goalie now, knowing that they will likely lose Tokarski next year anyway (or what they perceive as the better goalie, as Tokarski has outplayed Desjardins IMO).

          Go Habs Go!
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          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            That makes sense now…thanks and good for MB for having taken advantage.

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Bun E. Laroque says:

            Looking like a great trade to me.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          7 games, 1.30 GAA, 0.956 %GAA on one of the worst teams in the AHL…that’s ridiculous.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • boing007 says:

          Maybe they were wrong?

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  54. Sportfan says:

    So Toronto is on the list of teams that would want to go after Perry, but what the heck would they offer the Ducks? When they were after after Luongo the package included Kadri (imagine had they pulled the trigger on that) I feel as though there cupboard isn’t as strong with prospects, but again I could be wrong. I ask you guys though what would the leafs give to get Perry cause frankly I doubt Toronto would get Perry.

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Gardner, their 1st and maybe something else.

    • Phil C says:

      I really don’t see how the Anaheim GM can justify moving Perry at the deadline when they have a legitimate shot at the Cup. I think they will keep him and lose him to free agency, maybe trade his negotiating rights for a draft pick after they are eliminated.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      It is going to take a lot more than usual to get Perry given that the Ducks are in the Cup hunt. Not worth it unless he signs afterwards.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  55. issie74 says:

    Will throw up if Oilers have first pick this year,they don’t know what to do with the kids they have.

    NorthTOHab

  56. habs-hampton says:

    OK, so Pateryn is a decent sized d-man (huge on our team). I’ve seen his stats, but what kind of player is he? How did he play in Hamilton? Does he have a nasty streak? Can he fight? I hope he can hit like Emelin, skate like PK, pass like the old Markov, block shots like Gorges and compete like Prust.

    • issie74 says:

      Sylvain Lefebvre thinks he is ready!

      NorthTOHab

    • commandant says:

      He’s a two way D.

      Solid in his own end, good slap shot in the other end, good first pass.

      Clears the crease, and battles on the boards, but not a big hitter like Emelin or anything… Will take the hit when its there, but isn’t looking to run people over all the time.

      Haven’t seen him fight.

      The thing with him is he’s not played that much due to injury (fractured elbow kept him out a long time), but when he’s played he’s been great.

      Go Habs Go!
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      http://lastwordonsports.com/

    • frontenac1 says:

      Could find only one fight as a pro. A narrow loss.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRcZSSRqz3o

    • Habfan17 says:

      Yes, he has a nasty side, he was a leader on his team in college and he mentored Bennett
      here is a report

      2010-11: Pateryn was one of the top shut-down defenders for the University of Michigan as a junior as the Wolverines advanced to the Frozen Four national championship game. Pateryn appeared in 40 of 44 games for the Wolverines and also contributed offensively – scoring 3 goals and 14 assists to go along with his defensive prowess. Pateryn finished with a +15 plus/minus for the Wolverines, who finished first in the CCHA regular season. After finishing third in the conference tournament, Michigan played some of its best hockey in the NCAA tournament, allowing just three goals in its first three NCAA contests, including a 2-0 shutout of high-powered North Dakota in the Frozen Four semifinals.

      2011-12: Pateryn had an excellent senior season at the University of Michigan where the alternate captain scored two goals along 13 assists and a solid plus 15 rating in 41 NCAA games. The big physical defenseman was most definitely the anchor of the defense for the Wolverines where he partnered with sophomore, Mac Bennett (MTL) to form the team’s shutdown pairing. Pateryn was unable to graduate from university with an NCAA or CCHA championship this season. The Wolverines suffered losses in the CCHA championship game to Western Michigan University and the opening round of the NCCA tournament to Cornell University.

      Habfan17

    • Danno says:

      Greg Pateryn profile and fight video:

      http://dennis-kane.com/pateryn-joins-the-big-club/

      ________________________________________

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      Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  57. nek25plus says:

    Hope we get to see Pateryn tonight or tomorrow. Any word on line up?

  58. HAB - Have A Beer says:

    In all honesty. I think Philly, New York Rangers, New York Islanders, and Washington are better teams than the Habs. They can’t seem to get it together. At the same time. I think the Habs are a playoff team this year which will be a big improvement over last year ….

    Habs are playing some pretty good hockey. At times winning games they probably shouldn’t. they deserve a lot of credit.

    • Mattyleg says:

      How are they better teams?
      You do know that a team is more than its individual parts, right?

      -edit- if they were better team’s they’d be in first.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • christopher says:

      i think the habs were probably the #4 team in the east last year. too bad they never got it together!

    • HUDSONHAB says:

      The road to the Stanley Cup is paved with teams that “just can’t get it together”

      ….Hab4life….

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Philly with a lackluster and aging defense?
      NYI!?!?!?!?
      Washington… they should be better than they are, but I don’t see why they’re better than the Habs. The Habs have depth, which is very hard to overcome.

      Instead of overrating, I think you’re underrating the Habs.

      • HAB - Have A Beer says:

        I will admit that I underrated the HABS when I said the Rangers and washington were better teams but I’m sticking with Philly and Islanders for now. still say they are better all around teams than the Habs just not showing it in the standings yet. we’ll find out in the next 24-games ….

  59. habaholic68NJ says:

    When Bourque returns, he will displace one of Ryder or Gio. What do we do with either, 4th line or press box?

    *Listen to my instrumental tribute entitled “Habs at War” at http://petertoliasmusic.site11.com/Music_Site/OtherOriginalMusic.html

    • showey47 says:

      i doubt it,bourque is a lefty

      • commandant says:

        Ryder is playing LW on the 2nd line (or was until he was benched).

        Also Bourque is a left handed shot, but a natural RW. We are the first team he’s played LW for at ES. In Calgary he was 2nd line RW, and only played on LW for PP with Iginla.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • showey47 says:

          I probably should have worded it differently. Ryder is playing left cause we have nobody else to play left. Bourque,even though was a righty in calgary has looked just as good on the left side this year. If we are lucky bourque will be just as effective whatever wing he plays on. As for gio,maybe a 3rd line stint with eller will get him going. A bigger body that can skate would help create room for gionta.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Except that the only time Bourque scored 27 goals, he played the right side, He is better there

        Habfan17

  60. Strabo says:

    Until the points say different, we are in first place in our conference, not Boston or any other team in our conference. Nothing more, nothing less. Enjoy it instead of saying otherwise.

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  61. Danno says:

    Greg Pateryn, 6’2”, 219-pound, can throw a punch or two

    http://dennis-kane.com/pateryn-joins-the-big-club/#comments

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  62. hab fan in leaf jungle says:

    I am thrilled about the performance of my beloved Habs but also know that they are not a true 1st place team. Boston is the class of the East and probably the toughest team in the NHL throughout the lineup. Still, the Habs have been amazing this year. Keep it up fellas, we’re all proud of you. Way to go Bergevin and Therrien. Go Habs Go.

  63. HabFab says:

    In the CHL last night;
    - Hudon had 1G + 3A (his 30th) and now has 68 points in 53 GP.
    - Archambault had 1G (his 30th) and now has 64 points in 61 GP.
    - Dietz had 1G + 1A (his 22nd) and now has 53 points in 63 GP.

  64. Danno says:

    First!

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  65. Ian Cobb says:

    Before we move anyone, we have to see who we can call up and play at this level first. Trade dead line coming up!

  66. Price07 says:

    Don’t over-exaggerate. Dumont deserves a shot and White is the most likely to be put aside. White plays the same position as Dumont. And White will be taken out before veterans like Moen or Armstrong. People make stories out of nothing.


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