Habs invite 50 players to development camp

The Canadiens announced on Thursday that they have invited 50 players to their development camp to be held July 7-11 at the Bell Sports Complex in Brossard.

Five of the six players selected at this year’s NHL draft will be in attendance, including first-round pick Nikita Scherbak (photo above). Twenty of the players invited to the camp are prospects who have been drafted by the Habs.

The first on-ice sessions will be on Monday, July 7, from 9:30 a.m. until 12:30 p.m. on both ice surfaces in Brossard. Practices will be held in the morning for the remainder of the week, followed by scrimmages at the end of the day.

All practices will be open to the public.

Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin also announced on Thursday that he has signed forward T.J. Hensick to a one-year AHL contract with the Hamilton Bulldogs. The 28-year-old, who is 5-foot-9 and 170 pounds, split last season between the AHL’s Hartford Wolfpack and MODO in the Swedish league. In 42 games with Hartford, he posted 11-23-34 totals.

Fifty players invited to development camp, canadiens.com

Scherbak, De la Rose in spotlight at development camp, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

List of players invited to development camp, canadiens.com

Parenteau takes tour of Brossard facility, canadiens.com

Bulldogs sign Hensick to one-year contract, hamiltonbulldogs.com

Plenty of seats left for world juniors in Montreal, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Best and worst deals in NHL free agency, montrealgazette.com




  1. Un Canadien errant says:

    You know, calling the Fire Department when your house is on fire is kind of pointless. The damage caused by the flames, the smoke, all the water used to extinguish the blaze, the actual fireground operations, with chainsaws and axes and what have you, you’re not going to save anything.

    The way to protect yourself is to build your house with fire resistant materials and construction techniques, to reduce fuel loads and ignition sources through good housekeeping, and make sure you have fire detection and suppression systems, smoke and CO2 detectors and sprinkler systems. Rely on a ‘family safety’ concept, make sure everyone is on board and fire smart. To resort to a fire department to protect you is a foolish mid-20th century mindset.

    So yeah, I know, that electrical burning smell coming from the basement is getting stronger, but really, what are you going to do? Call the big red trucks with the big sirens? How’s that going to help? Sure, it’s spectacular and everyone enjoys the show, but it achieves nothing. I know someone once who called 911 and their house still burned to the ground.

    My sources are unreliable, but their info is fascinating.–Woody Paige


  2. Habs4LifeInTO says:

    Nice bounce back game by the Als! 24-9 with 50.2 seconds…

    24 cups and counting….

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

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  4. Habitant in Surrey says:

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    …”So I’d say Sekáč will play in the third line, but you know Europeans, he won’t be like Brandon Prust or anybody like that. He’s not dirty or overly physical. I like to compare guys to Vladimír Sobotka all the time and Sekáč can be a similar kind of a player with a lot of effort. Sobotka’s probably has much more offensive upside, but like I said, I haven’t had proper time to evaluate Sekáč’s potential and abilities.

    Anyway, trust me on this one. I’m usually right and Sekáč was brought in to replace Brian Gionta in a way. Don’t expect him to be a number-one leader just yet and don’t expect more than about 25 points from him. Canadiens fans have got a great character forward coming in and they should be looking forward to it. I love how Montréal has a good thing going now that a good GM is in place.”


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  5. CJ says:

    Ok, so here’s the real question…… Is that a wedding ring on Scherbak’s finger?

  6. PrimeTime says:

    Same crap, different day from the Habs nerds. Seriously, get out and play!

  7. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Trying to get a fighter now is like trying to get a goal scorer now…there is nothing out there. No point in overpaying for scraps now. Give the kids a chance and see where it goes. You can work with the extra money if need be later.

  8. frontenac1 says:

    Als at home to The Lions tonight. Any of you Mtl. Amigos heading to the game?
    Go Als Go!!!

  9. montreal ace says:

    Why do people think. that a fighter has to be a certain age to do well in the NHL. I think that Nevins is going to start the season with the Habs, all he needs to do is hit first, thats the added value in any fight

  10. DipsyDoodler says:

    Weren’t those Brazilians physical? Reminded me of mid-70s Flyers.

    Moving. Forward.

  11. habs001 says:

    Borque is a huge key for the Habs…If he is the player he was in the playoff and scores 20+ that would go a long way in resolving wing scoring…

    • GrosBill says:

      In terms of just point production, we shouldn’t have to be too optimistic for him to have at least as many points as least season.

      He did seem to mail it in at times last year, but in other games, he hit posts or led the team in shots but came out empty handed.

      The wild card seems to go back to juniors with Rene. Size and talent, but which guy shows up? The one thing I have read that previous coaches have said, is he often showed up in big games.

      If he is more productive than last year in the regular season next year, and is as equally as much a presence in the playoffs (as the last two appearances), I will be happy.

      I guess that is what you get for the cap hit. If he was consistent, he would be getting paid!!

  12. punkster says:

    krob1000…Rob, we just have a different opinion on the issue…no sweat.

    Release the Subbang!!!

    • krob1000 says:

      lol…I just got home from the rink (before I go back to the rink shortly here) and saw the comments..I take no offense to anything anyone is saying…thanks to those defending my typos ! The way I debate on here comes across as very hardline because I respond so quickly and off the cuff…doesn’t mean I am really ticked or anything…..no worries. I do think the team needs a tough guy who is available for certain games….some don’t that is the jist of it…we all agree we don’t need a 5 min/game guy all season..I just think you need one for the B’s, Flyers, Leafs and Sens in most of those games…

  13. SC-1993 says:

    This is a deal I would try to make, Plekanec and a 2nd rounder for a 6 foot 20-Goal left winger to go with Galchenyuk and Gallagher. don’t get me wrong, I love pleks but he’s 31 and now is the time to get a good left winger to put Galchenyuk where he belongs.

    we would have two good scoring lines, 3rd line not bad
    #1- Pacioretty, Desharnais, Parenteau
    #2- ?????????, Galchenyuk, Gallagher
    #3- Bourque, Eller, Weise
    #4- Bournival. Malhotra, Prust

    3rd and 4th lines can be tinkered with during the off season or at training camp:

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      Isn’t Pleks a 6’0″ 20 goal scorer?

    • HABitual Winner says:

      Galchenyuk is 20 years old…I don’t see that happening. Can’t even order a beer in the states and he’s going to go head-to-head with the bergeron’s of the world??? Gionta and Gorges just left, understandably so, but Montreal is not going to get rid of a veteran like plekanec. Not now. Parenteau is a swinging gate defensively, gallagher isn’t far behind. We need guys in our top six that are defensively sound and thats what Thomas is. I wouldn’t mind Steve Ott!!

      • B says:

        If you’re going to play in the NHL as an 18 year old, then Montreal is the place (legal to have a cold beer after the game).

        –Go Habs Go!–

    • Habbergasted says:

      Bournival should not be on a 4th line.

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  15. Habitant in Surrey says:

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  16. habstrinifan says:

    I posted “really the only size we have lost is Murray”. No response except one poster suggesting that I am mistaking size for toughness. Ok I’ll say the ‘only toughness’ we have lost is Murray.

    Let’s look at the facts.

    We have lost Ryan White presumbaly. Yes tough but not a regular in the side and if I recall neither a great contributor in toughness this season… due to lack of ice time.

    We have lost Murray.. definitley served the togh big D role.

    We may have lost Bouillion.

    We lost Vanek.. size(somewhat)!

    I really have to discount Parros. Too often injured.

    We have lost Gionta.. I’ll grant ‘gritty’.

    We gained Parenteau.. bigger than Gionta.
    We gained Maholtra: 6/2 220… bigger than Vanek and definitely not softer.

    We gained Gilbert… big enough.
    We’ll have Tinordi:size and toughness.
    We retained Weaver as ‘gritty’ as Bouillon.

    And we have some big forwards in the system who can be as effective(better even) in Parros’ role and better on the ice.

    So effectively the only ‘regular’ toughness we lost is Murray and there are replacements for him in the system.

    And on the forward lines especially we have gained an inch or two with veteran presence which will help augment ‘team toghness’.

    The arguments that we have lost ‘toughness’ hold as much water as Parros held a regular spot.

    I do not see this ‘new’ team being ‘pushed off’ the puck either defensively or offensively. And if the ‘fighting factor’ rears its ugly head (It did not much last season)… then we can test the players in the system or go out and get a solution at trade deadline.

    This team’s performance will not rest on an ability to fight. And it has enough sizable veteran presence both upfront and in defense to match any ‘truculence’ and play its game.

    Sign at : https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/no-habs-blackout-rds.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Keep the Faith Trini! Marc knows what he’s doing. Habs won’t be patsies anymore. Saludos!

    • marvin20 says:

      The issue is that we gained no toughness only size. Its not all negative we should have better puck possession. But are they tough enough as a team to fight for the puck along the boards and in the corner, and how will they respond when other team’s try intimidation. I think they are missing some team toughness and it will be exsposed eary in the season. Once again just because you have some size does not make you tough. I thought that should be common sense.

    • marvin20 says:

      I’m not sure you understand my thinking when it comes to team toughness. It is not all about fighting, or size. If the habs are tough enough with thier current roster, they will be able to punish and wear down teams along the boards. Also other teams will have enough respect for their toughness and not cheap shot or use intimidation as much. That is not going to happen because they are not tough enough

  17. Paz says:

    I would invite Gallagher to the Development camp. Then I would introduce him to all the forwards, and let him participate in the drills and the scrimmages.

    At the end of the week, with everyone gathered in the middle of the ice, I would end the camp telling them the following,

    “You have seen Gallagher. Now go back to your teams and practice doing what he does. Practice becoming the player he is. The more like Gallagher you become, the more likely you will end up in the NHL”.

  18. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Has anyone thought of any work-arounds for the RDS regional blackout? Is there any practical reason why I can’t subscribed to Bell Express Vu, for example through a New Brunswick address and set up my satellite dish in southern Ontario?

  19. 24 Cups says:

    Jane (JF) – The real intent of the discussion is not about goons, height & weight stats or thuggery. WHAT IT’S REALLT ABOUT is having some players who can play a game that reflects an element of sandpaper and physicality. Just like some of the teams out west. Players who can clear the front of the net, park themselves in front of the other team’s net, win puck battles in the corners and along the boards and get their noses dirty when the need arises. That provides the proper balance with the skill players.

    Posters setting up tug of war scenarios (based on their biased opinions) take the debate off course so that the true intent of the discussion is lost before it even begins.

    24 Cups

    • twilighthours says:

      Of course it should be about that. But how many posts per day are about

      -scouting reports of AHL/CHL goons?
      -which goons are available?
      -which goons are in their prime?
      -the win/loss records of various goons?
      -how the Habs need to get a goon?

      It’s all the rage these days.

    • JF says:

      Steve – There are in fact two camps, or perhaps two discussions. There are posts arguing that we need an enforcer on the roster, a player who will fight when necessary, defend and “avenge” his teammates, and intimidate the opposition. The presence of such a player, whether he dresses for every game or not, will command respect so that other teams will be less likely to push us around. So runs the argument.

      Then there are the posts favouring team toughness, which is what both you and I are talking about. Also Hard Habits and others.

      In a sense these are two separate questions, but part of the debate has certainly been about whether we should get an enforcer.

  20. twilighthours says:

    The goon debate still going on? Everyone wants a tough guy who can actually play. These players are rare.

    Some of us want goons, like Parros etc. (I know, a goon “in his prime”). Even the players will say they like having a goon around. I believe that players actually prefer having a 4th line full of guys who can play, keep the puck out of their net, and are capable of sliding up in the line up when necessary.

    No one has ever asked a player this question… “which do you prefer for a 4th line teammate?” And until someone does, I’m going to discount this so-called evidence that NHL players love having goons on their team.

    Say no to goons.

  21. twilighthours says:

    Too bad for Colombia. They were my team, they play the right way. No flopping, no whining, and they take the body. Basically, like hockey players.

    It is so hard to watch the Brazilians. So many dives.

    • PK says:

      Brazil versus Germany will potentially be a classic.
      European vs South American style of football.
      You could argue that this could have been the July 13th match.
      It will be a close match with both sides having a lot to offer;
      as long as the Germans get over their flu bug (Spanish Flu?).

      On the other side, one would expect the Netherlands vs Argentina, with semi-final on Wed.

      Worst case scenarios for Brazil : lose to Germany or worse yet, lose to arch-rivals Argentina on July 13th.

      Should be fun … perhaps should not discount Costa Rica and Belgium, just yet.

      >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
      _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

      “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

      – Nostradamus, 1552

      • twilighthours says:

        I love the way the Germans work the ball at the top of the 18 yard box. Surgical precision. They look like the favourites to me.

        • HardHabits says:

          I really hope they knock out Brazil.

        • PK says:

          I agree. Germany is going to be tough to beat.

          >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
          _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

          “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

          – Nostradamus, 1552

        • SC-1993 says:

          Being a armchair GM, I wouldn’t trade Gallagher straight up for Simmonds. all we would gain is 6″ in height and 9 lbs. in weight and we would be giving up a player with the heart of a LION…

    • frontenac1 says:

      The fix was in long ago. Brazil Had to be there.Cant”t wait till this sh#t is done and we get back to Real sports.

  22. habsr4ever says:

    Flyers are trying to dump cap space so it would have to be prospects/draft pick and one of our cheaper younger NHL forwards.
    Gallagher and Pateryn could get it done……probably have to throw in a third round pick as well…..but we would have to say good-bye to Eller or Gallagher or Galchenyuk or Tinordi to get this done as a START.
    I would definately part with Gallagher to land Simmons…..wouldn’t blink or look back…..
    Let’s see what Bergy has up his sleeve – he knows he has to land a top six before camp begins…..

  23. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Brazil gets 10/10 on every dive


  24. Ian Cobb says:

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  25. habstrinifan says:

    No Co-Captains please! That is a sucker’s play!

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  26. Ian Cobb says:

    Montreal Canadiens 25 Stanley Cup wins:

    1916, 1924, 1930, 1931, 1944, 1946, 1953, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1971, 1973, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1986, 1993, 2014.!

  27. habstrinifan says:

    Great soccer match. Who is this REF? Must be an NHL ref… he’s letting anything within reason go. Good for him.

    This reminds me of the 1970 games between HABS and BRUINs… skill and toughness on both sides. Battles all over the ice.

    Love it.

    And my main impression. WTF are the Brazilians on today. They look so freakin different than they have in any game so far. Skill (reminiscent of Brazil) speed, more toughness than normally seen from Brazil. and absolutelY a 10 man juggernaut.

    Colombia kinda dont know what’s hit them. They are trying but …

    Great game… Man of the match… THE REF!

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  28. JF says:

    I haven’t weighed in on the goon-or-no-goon debate that has consumed this site for the past couple of days, but I’m in the team-toughness camp. Ice a team most of whom have the size, grit, and muscle to defend themselves, deter the opponent, and stand up for the one or two smaller guys. Play hard, hit clean, win puck-battles, and score goals. Skate away from goons.

    I think this is what Bergevin is aiming at. He’s made the team bigger, a bit tougher, a bit harder to play against. We’re still not as tough as we need to be, but Bergevin has added some big, mean players to our system in the three drafts he’s presided over. If even a couple of these kids make the team in the next few years, this would be a lot better than picking up some other team’s cast-off enforcer. Enforcers have a short shelf-life, and by the time they’re available as free agents, they’re usually past their best.

    As for the coming season, I’m not sure we’re tough enough, but I’m not in favour of adding a goon. I’d rather add more muscle and grit in the shape of guys who can play the game.

    • crane says:

      Any way we could work a deal getting Simmonds by taking Viny and what would we need to give up Plekanec, draft pick and take their crappy contract.

    • dr. schmutzdeker says:

      Absitively Posilootly…I agree. I also believe as you suggest, that the team is currently not tough enough and needs some short-term, effective help (preferably one forward and one defenceman), until the younger generation starts to arrive.

      Edit – Yuck…taking on Vinny to get Simmonds…high price to pay, but Simmonds would (almost) be worth it. (I’d even say, with the level of effective truck-u-lence he offers, no need for the extra d man)

      • formerly known as the hc says:

        I would like to have a player like Simmonds in our lineup. So would most teams. However, not if that means taking on Vinny. You can bet that even IFF the Flyers would trade Simmonds, they likely would not want him in their conference.

        -The beatings will continue until morale improves-

  29. HABitual Winner says:

    Who really cares about enforcers??? Tough guys who get you 20 goals a year don’t fall off trees. Fighters can be picked up at any time. They are as cheap as Brad Marchand plays. Our bottom six are set….where it gets interesting is whether or not Sekac, andrighetto, de la rose etc., can handle top six duties in the NHL. Hopeful, but guessing no. Peter Mueller might be a cheap gamble??? But its only July, lots of time to find a RW. Assuming Gally plays with max and DD….plekanec will be needed to hold down the fort defensively if he plays with galchenyuk and parenteau. Weise looked great with borque and eller. Budaj is as good as gone (hoping for a fourth rounder but most likely a fifth or sixth) and want to see if Nygren has what it takes. A friend of mine played with him in Sweden and he says no. Don’t like prospects saying where they are going to play!! Most likely moved for another late pick next draft. Just in time for MB to snag another gregoire!!! I agree with that Ian Cobb fella that timmins is one of the best in the biz but this draft reminded me of 2006 all over again!! (scherbak aside)
    “the puck got caught up in Dryden’s paraphenalia”

    • Habbergasted says:

      Gallagher should play with Bourque and Eller.
      Yes to Plekanec and Galchenyuk sharing faceoffs, with maybe Bournival on wing.
      Weise with Prust and Malholtra, leaving Parenteau with Pacioretty and Desharnais.

  30. punkster says:

    To repeat:

    We didn’t have an enforcer this past season yet iced arguably the best team we’ve seen in 20 years.

    Parros played a total of 100 or so minutes over his 22 games and picked up 85 minutes in penalties over that time. He provided zero deterrence after that embarrassing staged tragedy in the first game of the season. His other “fights” were all staged events having no impact on the games.

    Murray fought once at the end of November, was owned, and never fought again until April. You cannot reasonably argue or provide any verifiable proof that his presence was a deterring factor.

    Until such time as the NHL begins to apply or strengthen the existing rules, fights will erupt between opposing hockey players. I’m fine with that for now. I’m not fine with the continued assumption that employing untalented goons for the soul purpose of entertainment via staged fights has anything to do with the game of hockey. Remove these clowns from the game.

    I fully support hiring players who can skate, pass, shoot, and hit clean…you know, play the game. If a player has all that plus a) the commitment to support and stick up for his team mates, b) the size and ability to back that up even in a fight if required, then by all means give him a shot at a regular roster spot…a roster spot he has to earn like everyone else with his hockey skills.

    Please, no more mafia style contracted hit men with no hockey skills.

    Release the Subbang!!!

    • krob1000 says:

      You can argue that they both invited Cahara and Lucic to fight and neither did…and Moen, Wiese or PRust did not have to fight any of those guys. Sorry..that happneed…smae thing happened vs Ottawa and TO at times….Parros presence in those games and those 85 pim’s….were all in the name of the aforementioned guys not having to fight those bigger guys. If you thinkt hey don;t appreciate it…I cannot help you understand it….I am sorry but I will defer to teh hundreds of interviesws from NHL players over the years in which thy have indicated the oimportance of these guys…you guys revert back to your zero proof argument.

      • HardHabits says:

        I’ll go with the articulate well written and thought out coherent comment as opposed to the garbled poorly spelled spontaneously incoherent reply.

        • JohnInTruro says:

          Nice one.

        • 24 Cups says:

          Dave – Your comment is a bit offside as far as I can see. Rob (krob) is a well versed hockey fan who just happens to use a modified internet posting style. I find him to be a valued member of the site who’s opinions I respect. Let’s all agree on a mulligan as far as this issue is concerned.

          24 Cups

          • Paz says:

            Krob is a solid poster. I agree. Except when he convinced me that Briere was good defensively!! Hahaha!

          • HardHabits says:

            I have loads of respect for krob and rib him regularly on his typos. My comment wasn’t so much below the belt as over the head. 😀

          • 24 Cups says:

            Touché, Dave!

            24 Cups

    • frontenac1 says:

      Bokondji Imama in Da House Punkster! You are going to Love this kid! Saludos!

    • JUST ME says:

      I tend to agree with your way of seeing things and would add that with all the concussion issues and the players starting to sue the NHL for it`s responsibility in the matter and in the preservation of the health of its members , rules will be going towards a cleaner game. For instance last year was the first time i saw two players being penalized before a staged fight broke out.

      But, one must not either think that things will change instantly because anyway dirty hits will be the new outburst of frustration.
      Reality is that when the real season begins , the playoffs, physical game is left behind and mental warfare takes over. At this game the Bruins were no match last season .

      I also see no reason for a team to hire a player to play 5 minutes a game or one that puts his team in trouble.

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      And verily, the logic flowed down the mount with a forceful surge and smote the mustachioed men of mayhem with a speedy clout, washing away their convictions, leaving them blubbering.

      And the uncomfortable thought for the day, Brandon Prust doesn’t fight because he has to … he fights because he wants to.

      Other team’s anthem singer pissed him off …. someone’s taking a beating. The zamboni missed a spot … there’s a fist for that too.

      I am only kidding about the latter part

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  31. HabinBurlington says:

    So the enforcer debate has been solved. All we have to do is trade our roster for L.A.’s or Chicago’s or become Detroit and the world is a better place.

    I hope MB isn’t as stupid as me and not realize this is done easily and immediately.

    • dr. schmutzdeker says:

      No fears…he appears to be operating @ a level well above ours.

    • marvin20 says:

      only if those teams hire Serge Savard or Houle as their new GM. They loved trading good tough players for nothing.

      • dr. schmutzdeker says:

        Don’t forget Gauthier…mind you he never acquired anyone of that nature (except Staubitz)

        • marvin20 says:

          When Gauthier was there he had no tough players to give away. Other GM’s already gave them away

          • dr. schmutzdeker says:

            Gauthier/Martin were in complete/total denial (until the very end) when it came to the need for someone to respond to any mugging/goonery. After it became obvious that the team was not reacting well to continuous bullying/a # of embarrassing beatdowns, goat reacted in a panic and went out and got Stuabitz from Anaheim (I believe). I’m sure the state of the team in this reguard contributed (to a degree) to their overall 28th place finish/3rd overall draft pick.

  32. HardHabits says:

    Is anybody else keeping score?

    I have it at:

    Team Toughness 147 – Team Goon 36

    • krob1000 says:

      So show me the team toughness on the roster…beacuse I see noone in the top 6 on either F or D that fits this team toughness model….it is nice if you were a HAwks fan…but with the Habs roster…show me this team toughness.

      • HardHabits says:

        Toughness is not only fighting. Bergevin uses character. It’s part of the package. If not this season then coming. At the very least the Habs are bigger and for all intents and purposes getting grittier as well. All this while maintaining their level of skill and speed.

        People need to relax a bit with the goon/enforcer nonsense. It’s an ugly part of the game and I am sure people like Don Cherry would say it was the Apocalypse if the NHL adopted the IIHF rules for head shots and fighting, but Cherry’s time is up soon and I believe the league will have no choice but to follow the IIHF’s lead on these to issues.

        • krob1000 says:

          I am well aware of waht team toughness is…I have long lobbied for it and defended it…BUT…there is still a need for a tough guy to be accesible for certain games. I did not want a goon./…I do not like staged fights..I do like the retaliatory tit for tat that tehy porovide with players who repeatedly push the abs around when these guys are not in the lineup.

          I think the combo of Tinordi, Weise, PRust is enoguh for 80 percent of the games….this is why I would prefer a two way contract guy…but someone is necessary for all games vs the Bruins, for some vs the Sens, Leafs adn Flyers….everyon eelse? not worried at all. and agree with tthe team toughness approach…BUT for those games someone is needed.

        • dr. schmutzdeker says:

          I agree to a degree…but there must be a willingness to engage (in silliness) if necessary to prevent more (silliness)…I also agree with Knob1000 that there is little or none within the top 6 F and D(giving Gallagher a pass based on his size/heart size).

          Yes, toughness isn’t just about fighting/goonery, however there sometimes needs to be a message sent (tout suite) when (for example) Gallagher is being mugged. (involving the spontaneous dropping of the mitts)…best examples of recent years originate (sigh) with White…on Boychuck, Ott etc (along with some foolish ones)

      • marvin20 says:

        that’s the problem they are lacking in team toughness, especially up front and the challenge is addressing the issue without hiring a one dimensional player “enforcer” They have lots of good tough, big prospects coming up. just look at the roster for development camp, its very impressive.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I am trying to play Switzerland. Neutral.

      “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:


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