AUDIO: Habs given day off on Sunday; Game 3 Tuesday night at Bell Centre

AUDIO: Sunday teleconference Michel Therrien, Josh Gorges

The Canadiens were given Sunday off by coach Michel Therrien after splitting the first two games of their Eastern Conference semifinal series against the Bruins in Boston.

Game 3 is Tuesday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Therrien and defenceman Josh Gorges took part in a conference call with reporters at noon Sunday.

Gorges was asked on the conference call about his thoughts on the high number of third-period comebacks during this year’s playoffs.

“I think it just shows that all teams are competitive and wanting to win and no team is going to give up,” Gorges said. “I think everyone knows the importance of winning these games and no lead is ever safe because the other team just doesn’t quit and that was evident last night. Boston didn’t give up, they kept coming. And I think moving forward the biggest thing for us is to not stop playing our game. We can’t sit back and try to protect the lead. We have to keep pushing forward and be aggressive and keep playing our game.”

After blowing a 3-1 lead in the third period of Game 2 Saturday in Boston, losing 5-3, Therrien said it would have been a great accomplishment to go home with a 2-0 lead in the series but “we have to look at the big picture, winning the first game here. We are going home and we kmow that if we play our game, we will get chances.”

During the conference call Sunday, Therrien was asked about the Bruins gaining momentum in the series.

“Momentum, yes it’s a part of hockey, but there’s nothing you can do about the past,” the coach said. “What is important is the moment, it’s the present. So our preparation for the next game already started from the coaching standpoint. There’s going to be things that we’re going to apply tomorrow during our practice and make sure we’re going to be ready to apply those things in the next game. But you know what? Momentum will start when we’re going to drop the puck. There’s nothing we can change about the past.”

Therrien added that his team gained confidence from the two games in Boston.

“It’s a boost of confidence for our players that we’re capable to compete with that team,” the coach said. “We’re capable to play with that team. And one thing for sure, playing at the Bell Centre with the fans that we got and the support that we got it’s a tough place for the other teams to play in our building.”

Following Game 2, Thomas Vanek told reporters in Boston: “We won a game we didn’t deserve (in Game 1) and this one we probably deserved but we didn’t play a full 60 minutes. They got a goal and they kept coming and coming. They got a goal closer and we all know what happened after that. We got a game out of here and that’s a positive. Now, we’ll look at this one and be ready for the next one.”

(Photo by Jared Wickerham/Getty Images)

(Videos by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell)

Habs accentuating the positive after Game 2 loss, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Habs put loss behind them, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Sports world still fighting ugliness of racism, by Jack Todd

Bruins fans praise Subban’s class in response to racist remarks, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Canadiens let two-goal lead slip in Game 2, by Pat Hickey

‘We didn’t play a full 60 minutes,’ Habs players say, by Pat Hickey

Canadiens’ luck melts away in Boston, by Dave Stubbs

Subban says don’t blame Bruins for racist tweets, montrealgazette.com

Hitting the reset button, canadiens.com

Bruins turned frustration around in Game 2, NHL.com

Latest comeback gives Bruins life, bostonbruins.com

For Bruins, turnabout is fair play, Boston Globe

Bruins’ Thornton ducks heroics, Boston Herald

Bruins remain confident in struggling power play, NHL.com

City 0n alert for hockey mayhem, montrealgazette.com

 

655 Comments

  1. Danno says:

    I think some of us are guilty of being greedy bastards.

    Think about it.

    If somebody asked you before the season started – Would you be happy if the Habs wound up advancing to round two and were tied with the Bruins with a game a piece and had home-ice advantage?

    I think you’d say “most definitely”

    Naturally, we all wanted the Habs to sweep the Bruins in four. But was that realistic?

    But for some of us it’s as if the sky is falling after just one loss in the playoffs so far.

    Yes, it was a game that got away. But the Bruins want to win too. And they’re the best team in the NHL at the moment.

    All I know is the Habs can still beat the Bruins and nobody should be so quick to rule them out just yet.

    Win the next two at home, and it’s a whole new ballgame.

    Stay tuned.

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  2. Mondou6 says:

    More off-topic, but why is Ginette Reno doing the anthems instead of Charles Prevost-Linton?

    I don’t care one way or the other, just seems weird that Linton would have the job in the regular season, then come the playoffs, they switch to someone new.

    If I was Linton, I’d be pissed.

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …do anyOne here know what has become of Randy Cunnyworth since being fired as Our Coach ?

    • Psycho29 says:

      From Wikipedia:

      On January 8, 2014, Randy Cunneyworth was promoted to Special Assistant and Player Development Coach/Administrator of the AHL’s Rochester Americans by the newly hired Sabres President of Hockey Operations Pat Lafontaine. Cunneyworth would also work directly with Sabres interim Head Coach Ted Nolan in ensure continuity between the Sabres and their AHL affiliate in Rochester.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …Thanks Perry …long since hearing any mention of His name

        …I would have thought He would have found a head coaching position, at least, in the AHL or Europe

  4. 24AW says:

    Chicago wins again, have a feeling that series won’t go pass 5-games, maybe a sweep.

  5. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Hal Gill: …”stats are for losers. Go ask whoever wins the Cup this year – ask one of the players what their stats were and they’ll have no idea. But ask the losers and they’ll tell you all their stats. Here’s the only stat that matters: 16 wins.”

  6. tab says:

    Who will form our top line next year, will it depend on playoff success this year? Or do we have a plan?

  7. kempie says:

    A meteor has landed somewhere in my hometown about an hour ago. It’s all the talk around here. I’m sure it signifies something.

  8. Mondou6 says:

    Who are we rooting for in the other series?

    I’ll go with:

    Rangers (I hate the Pens)
    Chicago (like them)
    Kings (don’t care that much though)

    • BJ says:

      Im with you on your choices except I would like Anaheim over LA to celebrate what are the end of careers for Selanne and probably Saku Koivu.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      I like your 1st 2 but I would go with the Ducks for Saku and Selanne. Also Perry is one of my favourite non-Habs

      “man, I love winnin'; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

    • JUST ME says:

      Exact same choices here.

      Do not think tha Pens have what it takes. Once you can cover Sid the Kid half the job is done and when you get to Fleury…

      Chicago easilly for sooo may reason .

      Kings, the machine is rolling now…Hate Gaborik with a passion but he just may be the choice of the year at trade deadline. Very difficult to find a group where mister Gaborik will dare force himself but the Kings just may be the right fit !

  9. tab says:

    I believe why vanek looks uninspired is he appears to try and not play in sync with the eat of then players so he can them watch for opportunities and bam a goal.
    He is extremely smart and efficient player who only puts added effort into chances where he can score or set some up for a goal. Another way of saying it he plays at a different frequency than other players. Not worth 7 million, but maybe the 8 years from Habs at 6.5millon will get it done.

  10. Danno says:

    Blackhawks win it 4-1 over the Wild

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  11. JUST ME says:

    Yesterday may the 3rd marked the second anniversary of the hiring of Marc Bergevin. I `d say he did a good job and knows where he is going.

    Next season will be a very important phase of his imprint in the organization with the addition of many players drafted under his management in Hamilton. I would say that this is the most important part of his job and that meanwhile what we are witnessing in tha NHL is a bonus of some sort.

  12. CJ says:

    Bickell! This guy is a true postseason warrior.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      hi CJ

      Posted below

      Some food for thought and why the Habs need a ” Bryan Bickell” style of player (6’4″-233) to get you ” Through the playoffs.”

      Bickell is NOT a goon.
      In his past 5 NHL seasons, he has had a total of only 8 fights.
      What he brings is courage, heart, and size.

      In the last 3 games of the Cup Final last year, Chara was Minus -6.
      ——————-
      June 22/2013

      Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews offered this breakdown of Chara:

      “There’s certain ways you can expose him.
      The dump-ins that we made [in Game 4] were going to his side. We made sure we were outnumbering him everywhere we went, taking away his stick first.
      We can outwork him, and we did.
      ——————————–

      “..Blackhawks forward Bryan Bickell sprinkled a little fuel onto the fire when he declared Chara “doesn’t like getting hit.”

      “Not a lot of guys attempt it, but to get a hit on him and to see him fall down, it’s rare,” Bickell said.

      Bickell, who was in Chara’s face for much of Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final, had a first-period hit on the 6-foot-9 defenseman that sent him to the ice and, in effect, may have set the physical tone for the entire game.

      Hawks won Games 4-5-6 – And the Cup.
      …And once again, Chara was Minus – 6 in those last 3 games.

  13. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …so, I read Montreal Police are preparing for any eventuality of spontaneous rioting post-Habs’ games

    …I sincerely hope nothing like that occurs, …it will spoil the great vibes I am feeling about this run

    …here’s hope science someday comes up with a serum to inoculate into morons to prevent them procreating other morons …this World, and Our day-to-day Lives would become so much more peaceful and enjoyable

    • Storman says:

      I look back fondly thinking about myself and my brother and our friends, and how we used to celebrate Habs playoff victories in spring,,, by going outside playing some street hockey,, re-enact a big goal,,Thinking of morons who have never laced up a pair of skates using social media to create mayhem possibilities after winning or losing a playoff game, really truly sucks beyond belief,, imagine taking your 6 year old daughter or son to playoff game, that ended in a downtown riot,, too ridiculous to really comprehend or have any understanding of those who would perpetuate such anarchy.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …I had that very experience, living for a brief time on St. Mathieu not far from the old Forum …I took My young Daughter out for a walk to watch the celebrations, and hooligans took over trashing Ste. Catherine Street

        …what happened was a celebration of pride, joy and celebration was brought into the human gutter

        …I had to get away from it to protect My Daughter, but I can’t forget the anger I felt towards those fools throwing stones, smash-and-grabbing through smashed windows, over-turning cars

        …it was sickening

        …worse, otherwise ‘good people’ were also being swept-up in the group madness

        …Vancouver went through similar recently, so it’s not unique to Montreal, but it left Me wishing I could do to them what they were doing to us

    • zorro says:

      I so do agree.

  14. Mondou6 says:

    Off topic, but in response to Danno’s Jimi Hendrix post down below, I’m always amazed at how well his music has aged. It’s rare for 60’s music to still sound so fresh and relevant 50 years later.

    What a great talent.

    I wish I was a musician so I could understand the nuts and bolts of his guitar playing. To me it just sounds unique and incredible.

    • SPATS says:

      As a musician, I can tell you that you are correct. Most non musicians don’t get it. It’s one thing to copy, it’s another to create.

      Eddie Van Halen is highly regarded as a genius, but he knows deep down (and his alcoholism explains it) that most of his licks are Billy Gibbon’s dressed up in the brown sound of heavy flanger and echo.

      Just listen to the riff at the opening of la Grange and it’s VH heavy cousin Bottoms up to hear it.

      Jimi was an original who developed a tone and style where there was none, and he did it on antiquated gear playing upside down.

      Reminds me of the old sayin, Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but backwards and in high heels

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …Fred Astaire, My alter-ego growing-up …thanks for mentioning him Spats :)

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        It’s too bad he didn’t record more with Billy Cox, who is a far superior bassist than Noël Redding IMO

        Hendrix had a way of playing rhythm that sounded as full as an Orchestra which is best exemplified in the intros to Castles Made of Sand, Bold as Love, Little Wing, and First Rays.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Mondou6 says:

          Castles Made of Sand is a beautiful song, I love that.

          Hendrix didn’t like his voice, but I think he was great on vocals. His deep and straightforward singing voice was the perfect complement to his guitar playing, IMO.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            He had a nice vibrato in his voice… Lots of little ad lobs too, like ‘ahh shucks’ ‘huh’ ‘owww’

            He was a great lyricist too.. Today’s music, when you hear a song you can almost predict the lyric the first time you hear a son, it’s obvious, and shitty.

            ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • Mondou6 says:

        Ha, good point about ZZ Top…Actually, now that I think about it, isn’t the intro to La Grange very similar to Hot for Teacher?

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I’m a huge fan.

      To simplify it, where many modern guitarists and bands play in a very structured manner where a certain “riff” is repeated over and over Hendrix composed his songs in more of a “loose jam” format… Of,course his songs went through chord progressions, he simply didn’t play chords, he used “chord voicings” and feel to develop a unique feel.

      Also, all his songs were evolving and the studio versions were just a snap shot of where the song stood at a particular time. For example, the song “The Wind Cries Mary” was recorded on the second take, which happens,to be the second time drummer Mitch Mitchell ever played the tune.

      In his final studio album, First Rays of the new Rising Sun (which was never fully completed) you can get a glimpse,of where he was headed creatively, was using four separate guitar tracks on every song with lots of unique sounds as opposed to two tracks on his earlier records.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • Mondou6 says:

        Interesting…

        I read Jimi’s biography, and it was funny/strange that he ended up with Mitch Mitchell, who was a jazz drummer, from what I remember.

        I think Mitchell’s drumming is kind of over the top, but somehow it seems to work.

        One of my favorite lesser known Hendrix songs is Tax Free.

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          I have a great little book called “Jimi Hendrix: In His Own Words” it is nothing but Hendrix quotes from various interviews in chronological order.. Very interesting read.

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          Tax Free is a cool tune.. My all time fave is Ezy Rider..

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • boing007 says:

        He jammed with a lot of people, including BB King.

        Richard R

    • Danno says:

      I’ve always felt PK is the Jimi of hockey because of his incredible command of his hockey skills and his unorthodox creativity.

      Electric Lady Land is a masterpiece

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  15. Paz says:

    Desharnais, Max, Vanek. Their production 5 on 5 was fantastic this season. They are our number one scoring line 5 on 5. They need to get it done on Tuesday.

  16. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I have to agree with Vanek. We won one we deserved to lose and lost one we deserved to win. Nice split on the road! Go Habs!

    Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

    • Storman says:

      You know ,, i agree to a very small degree,, but I have always hated the idea you won a game you should have lost and or lost a game you should have won. Goalies are part of the team do they steal a game, or is it the inability to finish that means you should have won,,,, its like Bill Parcells always said at the end of the game the score reflects the team that should have won.

  17. habs001 says:

    The Habs are giving as much as their talent allows…This lineup if your objective is not that of a cup winning quality team….Now the odds are they will fight to the end but eventually it will be some kind of heart break type loss that will end the seaon because that is what happens when your talent level is just not good enough to go all the way…This season has had a lot of positives to build on but it is also time to close the door on some of the Habs aging players…

    • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

      It’s not talent Habs lack, it’s size and toughness, both of which creates time and space for the finesse players.

      ~~ You’ve been spun ~~

      • Mondou6 says:

        I agree with this too…

        Are there any really good tough guys out there as free agents for next year? Ideally, we’d get a goon who can actually play minutes in the playoffs, and someone else with a bad attitude who can successfully drop the gloves would be appreciated too. Like a bigger healthier younger version of Prust.

      • CJ says:

        I agree completely.

      • zorro says:

        Notice how Pacioretty wont go into a corner with Chara ?
        He’s not willing to compete, no wonder our top line isn’t scoring. Vanek isn’t skating, if they dont correct this at home, the Habs are toast.

    • Mondou6 says:

      habs001: I agree 100%. The Bruins regular season goal differential was +84. Ours was +11. That’s almost 1 goal per game difference over the season. Not that we can’t somehow steal this series, if we get lucky, but our roster is not really “Cup worthy”. This year was a step in the right direction, but we have a lot more work to do.

  18. Ian Cobb says:

    Best of 5 series now! We play 3 of the 5 at home!
    Not a doubt!
    Rangers next!

  19. CJ says:

    It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but the NASCAR cup series is at Talladega this afternoon and it’s winding down (less than 12 laps to go). It’s going to be a shoot out.

  20. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …condolences to Toronto Raptors fans, among whom I include Myself

    …great team …great character players …a fun team to watch

    …must be something, finally, among their professional pro sports teams, to be proud of for Torontonians

    …to the point, it seems, renaming Maple Leaf Square to Jurassic Park

    • frontenac1 says:

      They had it on at the Saloon today. When the raptors lost, we all said”Thank God.Now we don’t have to watch Roundball and those poor bast#rds standing around on the street in Toronto anymore. “

      • Mr. Biter says:

        Do you own the Saloon or are their most valued customer? Free Limo pick up every day at a set time?

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …I have never been a basketball fan Myself Front, or the culture of basketball …but I like ‘the Raptors’, …specifically de Rozan and Lowry

        …they are hard not to like

  21. habs001 says:

    Because of speed and size issues the Habs D can contribute very little to helping the Habs forwards in joining them on the attack…The truth is that what is seen as the top 7 D by managemnt most of them have no future with the team by the time the Habs become a cup contender…

  22. SPATS says:

    Really liking what I’m hearing from MT.

    Reminds me of Eckhart Tolle (Power of Now)

    Listening to the boys, they are saying all the right things. Stay present, forget the past. Momentum will swing like it has all season. This blip will not define the team. The response will.

    I predicted in my family pool that we’d win one in Boston and all 3 at home with Ginette Reno rallying the 6th skater. Until I’m proven wrong, I remain, present, accountable and optimistic! Til Tuesday

    OOH AAH HABS ON THE WARPATH

  23. Habilis says:

    Good news, maybe:

    “Kevin Paul Dupont ‏@GlobeKPD
    Early (unofficial) line from TV source tells me #Bruins #Habs Game 5 May 10 will be an evening puck drop–possibly 7:00.”

    I really hope this is the case. Afternoon games are awful.

  24. 24AW says:

    Don’t be blaming the coach, he’s one man there’s 18 players that participate in a game, that’s who you blame. Every line has to contribute if the Habs are going to beat the Bruins, one or two players a game, it’s not happening. Bruins are cream of the crop and only a team that plays as a team will beat them, not individuals.

  25. CJ says:

    Raptors blow it….

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Tough game.

    • Storman says:

      Raptors lose hard fought game 7,, yes they did ,,but they absolutely did not blow it..showed tons of grit battling back into a chance to win late..Hopefully they can resign Lowry..Team has very very bright future..

      • CJ says:

        Sorry, when you get a defensive stop with less than 10 seconds to go, than have the ball, on offense, down one point with a chance to win, you blew a chance to win. Maybe that’s not PC. Maybe, in 2014, we no longer call things so matter of fact, but as the number three seed, with ball in hand, they let it slip away. Just my two cents…. CJ

        • Storman says:

          Sounds like you have never played any B-Ball before,, they forced a big turnover with 6 seconds to go,, and had a chance to win,, Brooklyn filled with veterans played an awesome last 5 second d floor coverage,double teaming and smothering Lowry, knowing Lowry would try and create for himself,and refs would not call anything at that point without blood being drawn,The Raptors chased that game all game long so to give themselves a chance forcing a turnover in the waning seconds was quite impressive,, as far as a 3 seed losing to a 6 seed, again i guess you did not follow the season ,, this was not an upset by any means,, Brooklyn actually tanked late in the season to get the Raptors,, They did not blow it highly inaccurate analysis, seriously CJ off base laughable,,

          • CJ says:

            I think the Raptors proved too inconsistent on both sides of the ball. They weren’t strong enough on the boards and fell to a more experienced group. That said, they should have beaten the nets. It’s a moot point as either team would be nothing more than fodder for Miami.

            IMO, I hated the last possession. No, I did not play competitively, so perhaps my comments should we weighted differently. I was excited when they forced the turnover. I just think they could have gotten a better look, or forced the Nets into a call by driving the net. There wasn’t enough motion to open lanes, which forced the unsuccessful drive. Lowry was excellent, it was just a question of youth versus experience IMO.

    • Habcouver says:

      …but an extremely gutsy exciting game.
      One day, I’ll learn to understand this sport better :-|.

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  26. HabsKid says:

    We lose 1 game in the opponent’s arena and it’s the end of the world. We were spoiled by the Tampa series. They played a hard 50 minutes and hit pause yesterday. Lessons to be learned. Regroup and give the Montreal media two days to feed into the Bruins’ paranoia

  27. habs-fan-84 says:

    And people complain about NHL officiating. This Raptors series has been disgusting.

  28. Maritime Ronn says:

    Fransaskois asks:
    ” How has everyone been feeling about Vanek?
    I’m worried he’s a little too one-dimensional.”
    ————————-
    hi frans.

    The other day, I posted something to the effect that…
    Vanek is what he is – a ‘lumbering’ skater that may sometimes (on TV) look lazy or even uninterested, yet when you least expect it – Boom-Goal, or goals.

    If you see this guy live, he has incredible vision and anticipation.
    The other factors are what he brings and shares.
    Both Max and 51 are on record stating they have learned a lot from Vanek in the short time together.

    Perhaps Montreal is not used to that specific type of goal scorer – the type of guy we saw yesterday.
    It goes against the history.
    Many Habs greats of the past had speed and/or flamboyance – The Flying Frenchmen.

    Vanek is not that, and he is NOT a superstar.
    Recent 4 year stats show him as a 30 goal/60-65 point player.

    Vanek has pulled his weight so far.
    After the Habs picked him up, he had 6 goals/15 points in 18 games.
    In the playoffs, he now has 3 goals/5 points in 6 games ( 2 yesterday) playing against the best Boston can throw at him.

    He never hesitates to go to the net and hang out regardless who is there.
    He also has a mean streak.
    On one play yesterday, he crossed checked a bigger Doug(ie) Hamilton in the crease area and knocked him behind the net.

    • CJ says:

      I’ll add, you see the guy live and he looks disengaged for 58 minutes, than ends up with two points. Bergevin made essentially the same comment following the acquisition.

      He needs to do way more away from the puck to merit the kind of money he reportedly turned down from the Isles. Max, Vanek and DD need a big game on Tuesday night.

      • Danno says:

        Is it me or did Vanek seem distant and disinterested in his response to questions in the video above?

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      • Maritime Ronn says:

        hi CJ

        Vanek is getting at least 7 years/$50M from someone next year – $48M if he does the ‘preferred place” or Minny discount.

        Clarkson signed 7 years $36.5 last year.
        He couldn’t hold a candle to Vanek.
        The year before, Brad Richards received 9 years/$60M under the old CBA.

        Next year, teams will have an extra about $10M to spend with the new Cap.

        What he does ” away from the puck” only matters for some, yet if his line is in the O zone as it should be, it doesn’t really matter.

        If his Plus/Minus was Ovie-esque,( Minus -35 this year) then there may be an issue, but it is not.
        He is a career Plus + 41, and Plus 7 this year.

        • CJ says:

          Hi Ronn.

          Cap is $64.3 this season and was originally projected to rise to $71.1 million next year. However, the Canadian dollar depreciation could weigh the cap downwards to $68/$69 million. Kinda a long way of saying teams won’t have as much money to spend as they might have originally thought. Realistically I think budgets could grow $4-$6 million, but, I don’t believe it will be near $10 million next season.

          I’m fine with Vanek getting paid $8 million a year, I’m just hoping it’s not in Montreal. I’d rather pay more and have someone like Getzlaf, or Perry. Or, on term, like Carter. Of course Collberg and a second round pick don’t land any of those guys. Just my two cents….

        • CJ says:

          Sorry Ronn, I meant to add I agree that someone is going to pay Vanek. GM’s will try and buy success at every chance. Personally, I like the draft and develop, complimented by astute UFA signings (generally role players).

          On an aside, do you think Statsny is higher or lower than $7.5 million next season?

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            Hi CJ

            Stastny is a ‘sexy’ UFA signing – heritage/marketing.
            Agree about the draft
            Great drafts give opportunity to keep or package for better.
            As you well know, in business you need great and multiple assets to be able to deal from a position of strength…and to acquire strength.
            Habs ‘could’ be there in 1-3 years.

          • CJ says:

            I agree with that window. 1-3 years should produce a chance at something bigger and better. A legitimate chance to be a great team.

  29. Danno says:

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    Dear Mods – There are numerous links to Claude Julien embarrassing himself and his team when he accuses others of embellishment but I only wanted to post three.

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  30. The Jackal says:

    Just to change the topic somewhat, one thing that is apparent to me this series it that for teams to be dominant, they will have to face adversity and learn from it. That’s just the other side of the experience coin – the more experience you have dealing with losses, etc., the better prepared you are to face that and overcome it when it happens again.

    The Bruins’ core is largely the same as when it became the third team in history to blow a 3-0 series lead. It is largely the same as when it almost became the fourth team in history to blow a 3-0 lead, and it is also largely the same as when it completed a historic game 7 comeback. Those experiences bring teams to the next level – blowing the Philly series hurt Boston a lot, but they did not blow up their team, they adjusted, learned from it, and won the cup the next year. Same with the Leafs series, they almost blew it once more, but after the comeback it taught them that they are never out of it, and that attitude and those lessons have made them a very strong team that does not get complacent.

    On the other hand, the Habs are IMO a strong team – lots of character, effort, and solid play that is greater than the sum of its parts. But it is still relatively inexperienced and young, and missing a couple of key parts to be truly dominant. On the subject of inexperience, the Habs suffer from getting complacent when they are leading or winning – they know how to get a lead, they don’t quit when they are down, but they tend to let off when victory is close. This season the team showed what appears to be a nascent killer instinct, closing games, not blowing leads, and coming back when they do, but they still fail to close things out way too often. Whether this is from a lack of scoring or just inexperience remains to be seen, but this team will be better off the future after yesterday’s game.

    They were getting a bit complacent after the sweep and the game 1 win, I think the team just started to take winning for granted until they got this wake up call. Dominant teams don’t really let this kind of stuff happen, but from what I’ve seen, those teams blow a lot of games on the way to becoming dominant. Whatever happens in the playoffs, this Habs team is getting a lot of useful experience that will help take them to the next level.
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    • JUST ME says:

      I agree. We need to face adversity and challenges. We need to play against the best and make our way up there . If it means losing a few games if at least the lesson was learned then it is not a total loss. Considering that we have a young core of athletes, the lessons may carry on many years from now.
      There are things you do not learn in a book and that you need to re learn when you play at each level with new mates like getting back up and having the killer instinct.
      I for one am quite happy with the level of consistency and compete level shown this season. Whether they are up to the Bruins level in a best of 7 serie is being tested as we write !

    • The Gumper says:

      Very well said, I agree 100%!

  31. NightRyder says:

    repost from the dead of the night:

    Because I continue to not be a Therrien fan and firmly believe he is an enormous factor in our third-period woes, I present the following stats from the last two playoffs, including Saturday’s fiasco.
    Carey Price, third period – .778 save percentage, 6.61 GAA (give or take a minute or two, I rounded off the seconds). Carey Price, rest of the time (first, second period, all overtime): .960 save percentage, 1.09 GAA. Let those sink in for a minute.

    I don’t believe Price panics and becomes Andre Racicot playing blindfolded in the third periods. Interestingly, the second set of stats basically mirrors those when Price plays in the most pressured-packed situations with the national team (albeit certainly with a better defence corps).

    I do believe Therrien wets himself and makes poor in-game adjustments which fundamentally alter the way the team plays in a negative way, particularly when it has a lead in the third period. This, in turn, actually leads to poorer defensive play and bad decisions – which makes it that much harder to play goal when the gonads in front of you are overthinking.

    As mentioned, we all know Boston is a powerhouse. That’s what makes blowing a two-goal lead in the third particularly galling. You get a chance to step on the throat of a beast – you do it.

    Seriously. If the team gets a two-goal lead or is ahead heading into period three, toss a bag over Therrien’s head and take him to the quiet room.

    • CJ says:

      Wow, that’s amazing. Does that reflect the six postseason games this season, or career? I’m guessing this year. CJ

    • The Jackal says:

      Wow, that’s nuts.
      I’m not too fond of MT, but I think he’s done alright.
      Just my opinion anyhow, but he has been more good than bad.
      Still, the third period needs to be resolved.
      I remember when the first period was an issue, then we turned it on the third only to fall short. Now we are playing 40 minutes before taking the third off – I think MT is definitely accountable for at least some of that.

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    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Sorry, but you are way off base.

      First off, Therrien can only work with the ‘talent’ given to him.

      He can’t stop shots – even ones that hit some strange ice and go upwards, nor is it him that goes in panic mode when the going gets tough.

      Here’s something for you to think about:

      When a team has a big lead, NO player wants to be a goat.
      NO player wants to take that penalty that will cause a PP goal for the other team…and they well know the refs are looking to make it close and even it up.

      To add to that, people say they should continue to forecheck with a big lead and play their game, yet NO player wants to be responsible for an odd man rush against…and that’s why these guys and several other teams, get flat footed and hold back, or go into D mode.

      They just don’t want to make mistakes….and that mindset leads to goals.
      It’s hockey nature, and blaming the coach for players going against the game plan, is a weak argument.

  32. tab says:

    ProHabs make a great point protecting yourself is a key part of the game, no different when dmen are about to be hammered behind their net as they are about to make an outlet pass, they use the brakes to miss the check or turn away at last second, no different than what PK did.

  33. WVHabsfan says:

    I think every team has its fair share of divers IMHO

  34. WVHabsfan says:

    Valid points Helluhabbies

  35. tab says:

    Not sure why PK would apologize as he was already falling due to his follow through with puck. He just went down a bit quicker seeing the idiot Thornton about to hit him from behind. Hits from behind are difficult to judge but when they are obvious should come with 10game suspensions. In the old days your own players would say your a moron for hitting from behind, the line has been crossed so often everyone has forgotten that integrity should still remain in the game. Bruins seem to get away with face washing at every opportunity and outright intimidation tactics. These types of actions is not hockey and should be penalized out of the game except refs can’t make bruins short handed that often. Until someone gets killed nothing will change, but then it will be to late.

    • ProHabs says:

      Agree. No reason for PK to apologize. You could see Thornton purposely pick up speed to go and hit PK from behind into the boards. Was glad to see Thornton get hurt. PK needs to defend himself against the idiots like Thornton, Lucic that are just trying to hurt him. Good on PK.

      • HelluHabbies says:

        There is a difference between wearing someone down and hurting them, bruising the body and elbowing someone in the head. Occasionally a single body-body-boards hit can cause significant enough trauma to cause immediate, acute injury, but that’s pretty darn rare. Honestly, if the Bruins simply wanted people hurt it wouldn’t take too long to accomplish. You would just Matt Cooke them in the open ice from the side

    • Rad says:

      P.K. is a good kid, and was just trying to defuse the situation. He’s doing his best to avoid confrontations in this series, and so far has been successful.

  36. HelluHabbies says:

    Best to hope this doesn’t go the way of the Detroit series. Bruins physicality rendered many of the Wings players ineffective the final 2 games. big hits hurt more days after the fact and they start to add up. Honestly, I think the league needs to do a number of things. As much as the Habs dive the Bruins charge and “finish their check” late. this is a Bruins fan speaking. The Blues and Kings are also notorious for finishing checks behind the play after the puck is gone. I don’t care for it. I prefer just the right balance of physical play and skillful play. I think that is the most entertaining hockey, and in the end I think that’s what every hockey fan wants (along with their team being the winners) A healthy hate would involve two teams that desire to see the other eliminated, but not via anything dirty or cowardly. Some of the hate for Subban comes from the fact that he doesn’t need any antics to be successful. It’s not too entirely different than how Ovechkin could be such a complete player if he just actually cared and played a two-way game. Subban could be such a complete player, completely respected if he took a hit as well as he gives a hit and never flopped. (now….Marchand….I’m not so sure he could get by without his antics, lol)

    I digress, here’s hoping for some good hockey and may the best (not the dirtiest or diviest) team win

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      Habs are NOT the wings. Much much better team and goaltender. Habs don’t dive. Youtube Bruins dives and hopefully, you will come to reality.

      • HelluHabbies says:

        haha…no ever says that Bruins are entirely innocent on that front , but to be so blind to an integral part of the Habs strategy is just sad really. I call it a strategy because it happens so systematically, not a single player with that tendency (Marchand). Habs are a more complete team in better overall health than the Wings, but I don’t think Price is as good as his stats have made him out to be. A few plays with the Bruins elevating pucks a bit better and this series is 2-0 Bs. He’s good, but not elite IMO. Subban is probably the most offensively dynamic player on the ice besides Patches and the Bruins will have to be better about blocking his shooting lanes

        • UKRAINIANhab says:

          “Hes good but not elite”

          Best Goalie in the world. By far.

          • HelluHabbies says:

            that’s some serious praise, lol. I would probably take Lunqvist, Quick, Varlomov, or Rask before him, sorry. Rask benefits from a terrific understanding between him and the 5-man defensive system of the Bruins, but he’s still pretty darn good, incredibly athletic. With the right team and play in front of him Price can be successful of course, as the Olympics showed. that Canada team was ridiculously stacked. I mean Subban was the 7th or 8th Dman. that should tell you something

          • CJ says:

            I think he’s top three right now. IMO, of the playoff teams remaining, Price plays behind, arguably the worst defence.

          • CJ says:

            Sorry, meant to add that he is not the “best goalie in the world, by far.”

          • UKRAINIANhab says:

            Whos better than? “Top three right now”

          • CJ says:

            IMO, it’s Price, Quick and Rask top three. Again just my opinion. I would have agreed with you (it’s subjective of course), but you said Price was the best “by far.” That I don’t agree with. Sorry, CJ

          • UKRAINIANhab says:

            ” thats ok ” : ) lol!

  37. CJ says:

    Good afternoon folks.

    Well, despite the poor weather in the Capital today, I was able to slop, hack and trudge through 18 holes this morning. I love golf, but I don’t want to see our boys playing anytime soon…..

    Look, there is lots to be excited about, both in the short term and looking ahead to the future, next season and beyond. In two short years we have undergone a cultural change. I do trust the direction and respect the management team we have assembled. I like the size and skill in the pipeline and feel we are on track to ice a championship team, which could be very good for an extended period of time. It’s also worth noting that looking at the present, things have vastly improved. Sure, there are some personnel decisions I have disagreed with, but overall things are trending very positively.

    Niceties aside, one issue that does stick like a thorn in my paw is this notion of being satisfied with a split in Boston. I have no doubt that, prior to the series starting, if a poll was taken, both inside the locker room, or among the fan base, an overwhelming majority would call a split a huge success. That said, as in life, goals need to be adjusted. Once we won the first game, do you say, mission accomplished, we got what we came for, or do you course correct and adjust your goal? IMO, you adjust. We have grown as a team, but this was a step backwards. This issue separates good from great teams. I can promise you the Bruins aren’t coming to Montreal for a split. They are coming to win both games. The fact that we are so happy with a split tells me that we are a stride behind the Bruins.

    No, it’s not over. No, I’m not giving up. I’m simply saying we had the Bruins on the ledge, but couldn’t push them over. We will have a chance to establish the upper hand at home, but I can’t help but think that this blown lead is going to hold far greater implications than many are letting on.

    Again, IMO only, but these are not the Bruins circa 2011. This team does not have the same leadership core. Putting them in a 0-2 series hole would have greatly tested their mental resolve. That said, there is nothing we can do to change the outcome now. We must push forward. We need to evaluate our personnel and put together a game plan to counter the Bruins attack. The team that uses this extra day to adjust will have a leg up. Here’s to hoping it’s the home team… Cheers, CJ

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      I think the split thing is just a good mental thought in order to move on from that unfortunate collapse. Habs in 6!!!

    • The Jackal says:

      Good post CJ, the team is on the right path indeed.
      That being said, I slightly disagree with your prognosis re. the series, the split, and what it says about the team.

      First, blown lead or not, 1-1 is a good position going back home, specially against the most dominant team in the league. Still, it does hurt that we blew that lead, but all in all, we still showed the Bruins that we can tango with them and win. We should have won game 2, but we came up short and messed up – whatever, it happens. Stuff like that happens to every team, and good teams respond to those challenges and come out stronger from that – it could be the next game or next post-season, but adversity makes teams stronger if they learn from it, and this Habs squad is one that will move on from this incident and be better from it.

      Also, I don’t think anyone on the team is “happy” with the split after what happened yesterday – we were in it to win 2 in Boston and we failed that in a bad way, but we were on the way and it was the goal. Unfortunately, we are up against the best third period team in the NHL, and while it doesn’t have the same leadership core it had in 2011, it’s still the same team that bounced back after blowing a 3-0 lead to Philly, and came back to win game 7 against the Leafs – that kind of stuff gives teams confidence in those situations. We had our great comebacks this year too and it’s clear that the team has learned from that and become more confident, and this is an opportunity to learn from adversity.

      I don’t think the organization is pleased with yesterday’s results or that they were not trying to win 2 games in Boston after taking the first one, not sure where you got that idea from. Still, it’s important for the team to file that away and focus on game 3, roll with the positives from game 2 and come ready to win 2 games at home. Vanek scored, the PP is clicking, Price is Price, and we know we can play a lot better.

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      • CJ says:

        Hi Jackal. Thank you for sharing.

        Two points;

        Firstly, what the team says publicly and what’s discussed behind closed doors is likely, in many regards, vastly different. I get that. Having said that… My opinion is forged on the comments made by Therien and players who have referred to the split as the goal. Again, I’m sure that’s the original goal, but the team needs to adjust. I wrote this because the organization (Therien and players) have said they are pleased with the split.

        I’m probably making too much out of it. In the big picture it probably doesn’t matter. I just think when you have the best team in the east reeling, you need to push them over. Again, maybe I’m extending the Bruins too much respect. Personally I consider them one of the top three teams remaining (LA, Hawks, Bruins in no particular order). I think it’s one thing to overcome a blown lead against the Bolts, but these are the Bruins.

        We will see on Tuesday night. It’s in the player’s hands now…..

    • Habilis says:

      Good post, CJ. I agree with everything your wrote. The future is indeed bright. This team is very good and will only get better for the next few years.

      Our “window” is now officially open. With the goaltending and other young core pieces in place, we have about 3 or 4 years to get it done, IMHO. That’s the length of time I see Carey being able to sustain this level of play or close to it.

      I’m a firm believer that teams need to learn how to win. That is what our boys are in the process of doing right now, learning what it takes to win against the league’s elite on the biggest stage. Yesterday’s lesson was a tough one, but it was also a necessary one in the grand scheme of things. Now they truly know that no lead is ever safe. That’s playoff hockey. You take your foot off the gas, even for 5 minutes, you lose.

      As you mentioned, the Bruins are good. In fact, I really believe that they are the best team in the NHL right now. Some seasons, the team that wins the President’s Trophy does so because they are a good regular season team, nothing more *cough Canucks cough*. But the B’s are just plain good up and down the lineup and have a top 5 goalie. They are the prototypical NHL team right now.

      But we CAN beat them. Because we are good too, and we’re just learning how to be really good. Hopefully it’s a quick learning curve. Cheers.

      • CJ says:

        Thank you. Great points. I agree. Win or lose, we are growing and are on the path to something bigger. We need to learn how to win, which will help us going forward. We are proving that we deserve to be among the best, which is a major stride in just two years. The other lottery teams in 2012 – the leafs, oilers and isles are almost no further ahead. Columbus has shown great potential, while the Habs have taken a leap forward. All very positive signs going forward.

        Of course, it’s all about the present now….. Let’s just beat Boston and be done with it!

  38. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Really Excited to see the Habs push back on Tuesday. Have not heard much of Emelins play which has been exceptional. The penalty kill led by Tomas Plekanec and Mike Weaver has been great. Basically, there is a lot of positives and without that crowd the Bruins do not win the last game. Pick up the trailer, get Prust out of the lineup and Habs are in the Stanley cup final. Not many people realize that we have an amazing chance of playing for Lord Stanley. Get out there and beat the Bruins and we can be talking about 25.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      I realize Prust has been playing hurt all season but he’s still giving it his best, however I do think White should go in for Prust next game. Also nothing against Cube but Murray has to play next game as the Bruins were interfering with Price all last game and no one was there to clear the front of the net. Also what pissed me off was when Eller showered Rask and was surrounded by Bruins while Chara gives Price and extra slash on the glove after a save and no one does anything. Not a good sign.
      BTW all the Georges haters have been very quiet lately as he’s been playing very well in the playoffs.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  39. Danno says:

    Rainy Day.

    Lay back and groove with Jimi

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    • Strummer says:

      Great song- inspired by his performance being rained out at the Miami Pop Festival May 1968

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  40. JF says:

    There’s no question the way we lost yesterday hurt; but even a loss like that – perhaps especially a loss like that – can be a step towards becoming a stronger team. Chris points out below that yesterday was the third time in a row we blew a lead in the third period. So the coaches and the players know we have a problem. We have to find a way to keep pushing in the third period while not letting the Bruins come back. Therrien has promised to make adjustments. I’m hoping these adjustments plus having last change will both kick our five-on-five play into gear and allow us to protect a lead.

    If we had held on yesterday, we’d all be over the moon and the players would be feeling quite comfortable. Maybe too comfortable. Remember what happened three years ago. Up 2-0 in the series, there was a lot of talk about two wins not being a series, about not relaxing, about the need to keep playing our game, stay disciplined, etc. Then Game three starts, the guys are sloppy, we take a bad penalty, the Bruins score, Price misplays the puck behind the net for the empty netter, and the series starts to slip away. I somehow don’t think that will happen this time. The team will be ready.

    • CJ says:

      My biggest concern JF is the fact that the team may have reached it’s potential, and the issue is not so much us hitting the wall as it is the fact that we are playing a superior opponent. As much as it pains me to say this, Boston, IMO, is better in nearly every category expect two – goaltending and speciality teams. Fortunately those two categories will ensure that this series extends beyond five games.

      • JF says:

        Can’t disagree that the Bruins are a much better team. But we did manage to beat them three out of four times during the regular season. It’s not impossible we can do it again. But we definitely need to be better five-on-five, including getting our top line going; and we have to be able to hang onto a lead. Hockey people always say that adversity makes you stronger. Let’s see if that will be the case this time. I don’t think we’ve yet played our best hockey against the Bruins.

        • CJ says:

          Looking forward to finding out on Tuesday night. Can’t wait to get back to the Bell Centre. I have a buddy, my guest, who will be seeing his first playoff game live. It’s going to be a great night.

  41. Rad says:

    OK. Tough loss yesterday, but I’m over it as of today. Habs haven’t played anywhere near their best, and now, they play 2 games at home, with Price and Subban at the top of their game. The Bell Centre crowd is going to electrify the home team. I expect a big win Tuesday night.

  42. Maritime Ronn says:

    “I believe you have players that get you IN the playoffs, and you have players that get you THROUGH the playoffs.”
    –Marc Bergevin
    ——————————
    Just some food for thought and why the Habs need a ” Bryan Bickell” style of player (6’4″-233) to get you ” Through the playoffs.”

    Bickell is NOT a goon.
    In his past 5 NHL seasons, he has had a total of only 8 fights.
    What he brings is courage, heart, and size.

    Hawks Jonathan Toews also chimes in on how Chara is vulnerable…and the Hawks learned that from the Leafs series last year.

    In the last 3 games of the Cup Final last year, Chara was Minus -6.
    ——————-
    June 22/2013

    Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews offered this breakdown of Chara:

    “There’s certain ways you can expose him.
    The dump-ins that we made [in Game 4] were going to his side. We made sure we were outnumbering him everywhere we went, taking away his stick first.
    We can outwork him, and we did.”

    “..Blackhawks forward Bryan Bickell sprinkled a little fuel onto the fire when he declared Chara “doesn’t like getting hit.”

    “Not a lot of guys attempt it, but to get a hit on him and to see him fall down, it’s rare,” Bickell said.

    Bickell, who was in Chara’s face for much of Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final, had a first-period hit on the 6-foot-9 defenseman that sent him to the ice and, in effect, may have set the physical tone for the entire game.

    Hawks won Games 4-5-6 and the Cup.
    …And once again, Chara was Minus – 6 in those last 3 games.

    • Fransaskois says:

      And that’s why we drafted a guy like McCarron so high. Doesn’t exactly help us now though…

      Playing Parros more than 2mins/night is a recipe for disaster.
      Moen/Weise/Prust aren’t very big.
      Murray and Tinordi can’t play Forward.
      Bourque/Pacioretty/Vanek don’t play physically.

      I think we’re going to have to call up Mike Blunden, he’s our only hope. :)

    • Danno says:

      Given half a chance, Lucic would go after Bickell’s Pickle :mrgreen:

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    • Rad says:

      Connor Crisp is a Bryan Bickell style of player. 6’4″, 225, plays tough. When Habs conducted their own pre-draft Combine last Summer, Timmins said Crisp measured at or near the top in several strength and conditioning categories. The kid is a stud, and slotted to play big minutes in Hamilton next season. He’s a stronger Mike Blundell, plays with an edge, and has a higher ceiling than Mike.

  43. JUST ME says:

    If you find that the Thornton incident has any importance then you are falling in the trap that the Bruins are sooooo very good at, playing the mind game. So far we were and still are well in control of that aspect having gained home ice advantage but we have to play OUR game and let them fall in their own trap. That is why if P.K. apologized for ducking the play it`s O.K. Move on and look forward.

  44. Habcouver says:

    On a positive note, isn’t that Weaver guy a pleasant surprise?
    He’s defensively responsible, laid out some stiff checks, and chipped in with a few goal. If he continues to be this steady, I might have to take the Breezer name off of my #43 jersey.

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      A wonderful surprise

      The cost was a 5th round draft pick…that the Habs received back from the Islanders in the Vanek trade.

      In today’s NHL, Cost/Value is always of high importance.
      Weaver’s Cap Hit was $1.1M

  45. Fransaskois says:

    How has everyone been feeling about Vanek? I’m worried he’s a little too one-dimensional.

    • habcertain says:

      You won’t have to worry for much longer he will be moving on

    • Habcouver says:

      If Vanek becomes a key player to get us to the next round, I will forgive any conceptions as to being perhaps one-dimensional. Some one has to step up to the plate to score a bucket of goals: if it’s Vanek for the playoffs, fine.

      I’m not even thinking about signing him next year (well, just a bit).

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

    • JUST ME says:

      Difficult to say. Obviously he brought something important to the habs game but i cannot say what exactly. The team is definitely better and would be almost certain to get to next years playoffs with him in the lineup wich is already an improvement. Is he worth all the money rumor suggest he wants and will get ? If not him then we sure could use a guy of his caliber …
      The thing is, he is not like any other player and this we knew before getting him. We knew that he did disapear for stretches in the season and knew what he was capable of. He seems to be placed in odd places on the ice everytime but that is what makes him a threath for the opponents also.

      We may run out of time before we can have a clear idea but i trust Bergevin.

  46. The Capitalist Pig says:

    The Breezer’s glorious outlet pass would have made all the difference last night!

  47. RockinRey says:

    Recurring theme with this team all year long.

    “We didn’t play a full 60 minutes,’ Habs players say, by Pat Hickey

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    ‘This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted.’
    —Geoff Molson, Canadiens owner and president

  48. Mattyleg says:

    Okay, I’ll be honest:
    That loss hurt.
    I didn’t realize how much it hurt until I didn’t watch any hockey last night, nor any highlights today.
    Every time hockey came on, I turned the TV off.
    Took me a while to realize why.

    Eff, that hurt.

    But on the plus side, we know we can put the Boo-boos on the back foot, and then we just need to tighten the noose more effectively.

    The Bruins are a damn good team.
    This is our Stanley Cup right here, because if we get past the Bears, who is going to give us trouble? The Range? The Pits? Until the final, and we’re facing either The Hawks or The Ducks, we won’t have to worry. And even then…

    We’re a damn good team too.
    Think the Boston fans (the clever ones, not the tree-dwellers) are happy to be playing us? Think they were happy with Boston’s overall game on Sat?

    Keep the faith gang, we can do it.

    But eff, that hurt…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Exactly, great post.

    • punkster says:

      Agree Matty, and I also avoided highlights and sports news yesterday and today. The pain…the pain.

      But I had the LA game on mute and felt a certain satisfaction seeing them come back at the end of their game. Not that I like LA but at this level, down to the top 8 teams, almost anything can happen on a game by game basis.

      Top 8 teams…dwell on that for a minute and just think how close we are.

      Release the Subbang!!!

    • CH Marshall says:

      Yesterday I went back to my average negativity about this player and that coach etc etc. But you’re right, we’re a good team, and this is the best Habs squad I’ve seen in say the last ten years. That we can put Boston on their heels means something. You’re right, this is our Stanley Cup right here.

    • Yeah, that game messed me up too. Tried to explain to my wife and friends why, but they didn’t get it. A loss, I can handle, but an implosion … nope. Didn’t sleep either. Had no idea I was so tied up to what the Habbies do game by game. Tuesday, we’ll rock the Booins!

      I’m speechless! 20 years and counting…

    • Habcouver says:

      You aren’t alone with how it feels, Matty.
      Great post!

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

    • JUST ME says:

      It did hurt and it still does but what were we expecting exactly ?
      When or how did we expect to lose since nobody had predicted a sweep ?
      We would have more question marks had we lost 6 to 1 than the way we did yesterday. We know damn well what happened and have ways to bring adjustements to our game.

      We tend to think that the team only played 50 minutes but the real difference is that not everyone is producing and commited as they should and as they can. I am not pointing finger at anyone cause this is a team effort that is needed and not an individual accomplishment. We are playing against a very dangerous team let`s not forget about that .

      One must not either fall into negativity because before that dreaded 10 minutes we were at the other end of the rainbow thinking that my god what if ?…

    • frontenac1 says:

      Gotta flush the terlit once in awhile amigo. Habs in 6.Saludos!

    • habcertain says:

      If the Bruins had come out and taken it to us, fine, we got the split let’s get out of town, but to blow a 3-1 lead in 9 minutes is the dagger we needed to bury, if we lose Tuesday, get the clubs ready. I think our confidence would be shot and the better team will prevail.

  49. Dunboyne Mike says:

    @jlgib1019
    Your posts often contain keen observations and interesting analysis. At other times they present assertions pretending a level of knowledge you do not possess, all the while ungraciously dismissing the opinions of other posters (some of whom clearly know a vast amount more about hockey than either you or I).

    It’s a free-space, so keep posting. But you come across better in the former, and somebody to laugh at with the latter (well I laugh, anyway, and doubt I’m alone). Because you are regularly an ill-mannered git, I don’t really mind how you take this.

    • Mavid says:

      Wow your really good at that, I would have just called someone a name..I like your approach a lot better

      Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

      • BJ says:

        Mike can sing his way through it and has the penmanship to go along with it.

      • CJ says:

        Although I haven’t had the pleasure of meeting Mike in person, I can honestly say he’s the kind of chap whom I would gladly share an afternoon with, exchanging ideas over a cold drink(s). Mike has a style and manner that is professional, articulate and fair.

        It’s true, this is an open forum, and opinions are welcomed, but I’d like to see many of the sharp, barbed responses checked. You can share an opinion, rightfully or wrongfully (we are neither judge nor jury), but it lacks momentum when it’s followed by a personal attack.

        Just my two cents. Cheers, CJ

    • habcertain says:

      Hey Mike, while your observation maybe valid, or not, as you say, this a free space to be utilized as a poster sees fit (inside the rules of course) but you criticize the poster for his dismissing attitude then dismiss him yourself. Sorry no disrespect but it bothers me when the blog police start to dictate how others should write, just don’t read it, like you may do to this post.
      Cheers

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      If Ireland Mike was the UN Secretary General, the world would be a better place

  50. Strummer says:

    Habs were doing fine yesterday until that 5 minute stretch in the third period.
    Total breakdown in the defensive zone including missed assisgnments. Gallagher basically tipped the puck to Reilly on the winning goal. Tying goal was a fluke bounce.
    These things are fixable.

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    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Hey Strum. Tipping the puck to Bruins HAD to catch up on us sooner rather than later didn’t it? Clearing the zone has been a huge prob so far.

      • Strummer says:

        So true. And Carey couldn’t bail them out this time.

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  51. Habfun says:

    I tossed and turned all night thinking about them blowing that 2 goal lead with 9 minutes left. I know I am beating a dead horse but sheesh! tighten it up boys. We could have had a real stranglehold on the series that I don’t think the booins would come back from!
    I will be watching with bleu, blanc et rouge blood running through my veins on Tuesday.
    No Riots please!

    Go Habs Go!!
    P.S. Boo! the shit out of Charra!

    It’s all about the CH

    • Habcouver says:

      Hmmm… we asked for no riots in 2011, and look what happened.
      Interesting that the Gooins were in town, too.

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  52. port elgin says:

    Notice how the Bruins pound their chests like cavemen after a goal, well I guess if the shoe fits…..

  53. RockinRey says:

    I would have had them on the ice today. tighten things up defensively. Lots of things in their game that they can work on.

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    • Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On says:

      Right now a a day of analyzing video will do the players more good than an extra day on the ice.

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      • RockinRey says:

        On ice . Video. Its not like they should more tired than any other team. They will be off Tues before game. An on ice session to work through things could have been invaluable. Especially a closed practice session. Unless the coaching staff has no idea how to make game strategy tweaks at this point.

        Sadly , either way they could have been doing something.

        Not suggesting a hard skate. A 45 min video session or a session to work on d play. Gap control. D zone structure. Because as we all observed it was atrocious.

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  54. govenah says:

    Where is the best place to watch the game in downtown TO?

    Lock and Spring -that’s the the ticket!

  55. Maritime Ronn says:

    @TSNRyanRishaug:
    Thornton says Subban apologized for ducking on the hit during the game.
    ————–
    What?
    Are you kidding?

    The Thornton thug has already received a 15 game suspension this year…
    ” …tough guy Thornton grabbed Orpik from behind, slew-footed him to the ice, then delivered a series of punches to his defenseless opponent. The attack knocked Orpik out cold, and he was eventually stretchered off the ice”

    Subban does not need to apologize.

    Here’s a video clip of Subban getting out of the way of an out of control freight train looking to hurt people again.

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/03/video-thornton-injured-briefly-after-subban-avoided-check/

    You can clearly see Thornton preparing an ‘almost’ blind side hit on a VERY vulnerable Subban…and Thornton’s Elbow is in a rising motion just before- which can only mean that the ‘upper body’ (neck/head) was probably the target.

    The other aspect of the hit was that it was a charge, as Thorton had taken at least 3-4 strides from the other side of the ice.

    Would Thornton have apologized if he put Subban out of the series with a concussion?
    Probably, but he would then also be a Boston hero for doing so.

  56. Chris says:

    If the league had any moral fortitude at all, Marchand should be looking at a suspension just for an accumulation of dirty plays. I know that the refs aren’t going to call every single thing he does, which is a pity. But the league should step in…I’m so sick of seeing this guy cross-check somebody in the back or kidneys or rabbit-punch somebody in the back of the head on every single shift.

    Every player in the league is guilty of this kind of stuff once in a while. But Marchand does it all the time. There shouldn’t be a place in the league for his nonsense. He is a talented player, but he is utterly devoid of any sense of sportsmanship or the safety of his fellow players.

    • Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On says:

      Who was it that slashed Price behind the net at the end of the period? I don’t think it was Marchand, but it was definitely one of his tactics.

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      • Habcouver says:

        Campbell

        We Are (Not) All Canucks.
        Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

        • D Mex says:

          Another one from that crew who appears to sense immunity to the rulebook. Seriously, is Gregory Campbell on that team as some sort of insurance policy ?

          Another possibility is that Buttman is providing extra ‘ entertainment value ‘ with officiating designed to frustrate fans WWF-style … Whatever it is, it’s p!ss poor.

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      A real beast and thug – all of 5’9″-183 pounds of him.
      If Montreal, or any other team can’t handle Marchand – can’t push him back, then they have a bigger problem than just him.

      Guys like that eventually pay.
      It will be some sleepy end game time with the score out of hand – Marchand will be looking the other way forgetting that he cheap shotted some player on the other team once upon a time…then Boom!

      And as for ” Marchand should be looking at a suspension just for accumulation of dirty plays,” come on Chris – I hope it’s only your frustration showing.

      I can see Stephane Quintal making the announcement.
      ” The NHL has decided to suspend Marchand for x number of games due to a complaint from HIO that he has accumulated dirty plays.

      • Chris says:

        Ron, I know full well that it will never happen. But Brad Marchand’s act is exactly the kind of thing that injures people. Why the NHL tacitly supports that kind of bush-league inanity on the ice is completely beyond me.

        I guess I believe in being proactive. The guy is going to hurt somebody badly some day…there is zero question about it. (Well, he already had with the Sami Salo incident). For my money, he is a far more egregious offender than Matt Cooke, who has had one incident in the past few years.

    • port elgin says:

      But the CBC loves Marchand, Healy couldn’t talk enough about him last game.
      Other than Lucic , he is one guy I would like to see put through the boards head first

      • Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On says:

        Just more proof that, as a team, the Bruins can’t accept that one of their players took a clean hit.

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      • Habcouver says:

        I never ever ever ever get tired of watching that! Thank you.

        We Are (Not) All Canucks.
        Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  57. Ozmodiar says:

    An angry Thornton comes out of the box and charges across the ice to lay a hurting on a vulnerable Subban.

    F**k him.

    Aside from the loss, my biggest disappointment yesterday was that he didn’t leave the rink on crutches.

    • adamkennelly says:

      Typical Bruin – dirty scumbag – complaining hypocrite…pretty sure he was quoted comparing PK’s move to what Marchand did to Salo- so clearly he is also a moron who’s eyes and brain don’t work.

    • Danno says:

      And the jerk, who is well-known as one of the dirtiest players in the NHL, has the nerve to blame Subban.

      @adamkennelly – He did compare it to Marchand’s infraction. See link below in my previous post…

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  58. Chris says:

    Going into series, the goal was of course to get a split in Boston, if at all possible, and hold serve in Montreal. When the Habs won Game 1, it was Mission Accomplished.

    But it sure felt like a Pyrrhic victory, much like the 2-1 win last year in the regular season against Boston, the game that saw Emelin lost for the season.

    It had to be a bit disconcerting to the coaching staff to see the team blow a 2-goal third period lead early in the third period of Game 7 of the Tampa Bay series, with the goals coming 3:02 apart.

    Then the Habs did the same thing in Game 1 against the Bruins, giving up 2 goals in 3:46 to blow a 2-goal lead. After they got the lead back, they once again blew the lead by conceding a goal with 1:58 to go to send it to overtime.

    Finally, the Habs horrible third period play of late bit them in the rear end, blowing a 2-goal lead in the third period for the third straight game, this time giving up 3 goals in 5:32 before Lucic iced it with an empty net goal.

    I don’t want to be negative on this one…I felt like the Habs played a perfect road game for 50 minutes. But I also don’t want to put lipstick on a pig…that loss hurts. The Bruins know they can come back against the Habs, while the Habs have to be wondering why they can’t finish a team off.

    What worries me most is that the Habs are not particularly a dominant home team: the Habs won 23 games of their 41 home games this season. That is a good total (7th or 8th in the NHL), but not the kind of total that puts doubt in their opponents’ heads.

    It is now a best of 5 series, but the Habs totally wet the bed. They had a chance to be up 2-0, and they blew it.

    Yes, they have lost in past season when up 2-0, and that is fine. But if you want to go to the Finals, you’ve got to find a way to close out winnable games. The Habs have been playing with fire in 3 straight games, and finally got burned. If the Bruins see some more bounces go their way, given their massive territorial and shot domination, this series could be over quickly in the wrong direction.

    Montreal desperately needs to win both the games at home to reassert the swagger they had coming out of the Tampa Bay series. Anything less is a failure at this point.

    • Le Jadester says:

      Great post!
      Do you think the Habs need to make roster changes (i.e. Murray in for the cube……White in for Prust ) to give ‘em a better chance ?
      I think Murray woulda been a good Brooons neutralizer in the last 10 mins of game 2.

      Habs, OLE !

    • Habcouver says:

      Chris,
      As it’s been said before the series, a split in Beantown would be be quite acceptable.
      Blown leads seem to be quite common with other series’ games, too: just look at the Ducks yesterday on home ice, to boot).

      So true that Habs aren’t dominant on home ice. For whatever reasons, they seem to lack that killer instinct to put games out of reach when they take leads. I don’t know what to make of that. However I’m hoping the Bell Centre fans will be the “7th player” and just rock the joint.

      Good teams bounce back. Tuesday will be a good indicator of how far our Boys have progressed under the MB/MT regime.

      BTW, I trust you aren’t wearing your Habs jersey on game days. :D

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

      • Chris says:

        I had to move the two Montreal jerseys last week between the 1st and 2nd rounds, as I moved from my old apartment. But I managed to not touch them, using my Sweden, Detroit and Canada jerseys to wrap them up.

        Since Montreal won Game 1, the bad luck cannot be placed on me. One of the rest of you are guilty. :)

  59. UKRAINIANhab says:

    I mentioned this before but I think it is worth mentioning again: PICK UP the god damn trailer. 70% of there goals have come from not picking up the damn trailer in the high slot. Geez.

  60. Danno says:

    Shawn Thornton hurts himself when trying to kill PK.

    Of course he blames Subban…

    http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/03/shawn-thornton-isnt-a-fan-of-p-k-subban-ducking/

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    • Chris says:

      Unfortunately, this is a complaint that has followed Subban since junior: it is considered pretty bad form to duck a hit, particularly that far out from the boards. In international hockey, that is actually a penalty.

      However, on this play, I’m not sure that Subban was ducking so much as falling after his shoot-in. Subban apologized to Thornton, so it should be fine. I’m not a big fan of guys trying to drill the vulnerable defencemen on shoot-ins, as those hits are often from behind or blind-side, so I say it is a wash with the ducking. :)

      • habstrinifan says:

        I wanted to post this same exact observation Chris… just decided to steer clear of defending him. But if one follows Subban one knows that he has the tendency to drive the clearing pass late and hard ‘against his body momentum’. It is often a ‘later’ than normal ‘clearing which oftens brings the fans gasping at how close he makes the play. He is already turning away upon contact with the puck.

        I thought, as you did, that the ‘sharp veering turn’ that he was making caused him to slip a bit and also forced him to leave his left leg ‘out’ for balance. I think the fact that he was ‘that far away from the boards’ adds to the theory that he was in fact driving the pass against his body which was going the other way already.

        Not that I agree that a player should just position himself and wait for the hit either. You shouldnt ‘stand’ and ‘duck’ but I dont think P.K was doing that.

    • D Mex says:

      Willing to bet he has no problem with this, tho :
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGD5DbljtfE

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

  61. The Chicoutimi Cucumber says:

    I really think the key to the series is turning out to be the Bruins’ ability to screw up the Habs’ breakouts. I have not yet seen a team so skilful at keeping the puck in at the offensive blueline, and so good at frustrating our attempts to breakout – or even just to clear our own zone. How many times in these two games have we seen the Habs “almost” clear the zone but not quite make it? I think the Bs’ coaches identified this as a crucial part of their game plan. Therrien has to study the tapes and figure out a way to address it. Otherwise, we are going to continue to be hemmed into our own zone for long stretches, and the odds of victory will be long.

  62. Arnou Ruelle says:

    I haven’t been here in this website lately and for me, giving such commentary can either sway one to agree with you or just make an argument. However, since my/our team has gotten this far (congratulations with them), I will state what the obviously bad going on this series:

    (a) Are the Montreal Canadiens “serious” in playing against the Boston Bruins? If so, they are not to take these chums lightly! It looks like it and that bothers me.

    (b) If they seriously want to win this series, MT should be holding a practice today and another tomorrow! Right after game one, Bruins practiced to fix their game. They won yesterday. Doesn’t that bother Therrien that this opposing team is built for resilience and is known to bounce back during the third period? Therrien should get a reality check!

    (c) Carey Price and PK Subban are (for me) the only two players with the Habs who know very well what the Bruins are! Vanek and company are NOT giving 100% the effort! Max Pac – WTF is the jinx with him? One goal throughout this playoffs? Are you kidding me? DD should wake up his left winger!

    (d) Dmen to me felt like they don’t give a s*** on the Bruins yesterday. Their goaltender is struggling to see who’s shooting the puck at his net, his defense are too busy running around like wusses! #11 is also to blame for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th goal.

    If the Bruins are known to be resilient, then coaching should already be aware of it and maybe, just maybe, they could’ve done a better job preparing the Habs for this! Game #3 is NOT a game where they cannot afford to lose. If another 3rd period gaff will happen again on Tuesday, forget it! Tank the series and Bergevin should do something to size up this team ASAP

    • JUST ME says:

      It is perfectly allright for them not to practice today. What do you want ? Punish them ? Do tou think that they did no see the wheels passing them by while the bandwagon was at the stop sign ?

      Not practicing is actually almost worse because they see yesterday`s game over and over in their head.
      At this stage rest is as precious as practice.

      Relax ! The Habs are 5 and 1 in the playoffs and are playing the Bucking fruins and say what you want but this is one hell of a team and somehow the Habs are keeping up and managed to get the ice advantage. They lost one game ! as most of us expected they would. I grant you that it was ugly but then again a loss always is.

  63. donmarco says:

    So now it’s a best of 5 series and we have home ice advantage. Could be worse.

  64. HabFab says:

    Thrower to have ankle surgery. Not sure if the Habs intend to sign him or he goes back into the draft;
    http://blogs.theprovince.com/2014/05/03/dalton-thrower-outgoing-whl-giants-captain-and-habs-draft-pick-to-have-ankle-surgery-tuesday/

    • third generation haber says:

      Let’s see, in recent years, we gave contracts to Nattinen, Dumont, Quailer, Avtsin, and Stechel (not sure about spelling), but we’re not sure about Thrower??? If we don’t sign him, we will regret it.

      Really want to see him, Nevins, McCarron, and Crisp transform the Bulldogs into a hard-nosed team.

      j.p. murray

      • Chris says:

        The Habs needed forwards. They have a log-jam of defencemen, most of whom are better than Thrower.

        • D Mex says:

          According to the article, it’s tendon surgery. I’ve seen strong recovery from this in the past.
          Habs need tough D-Men with leadership skills / who doesn’t ? Hoping to see Thrower under contract, but the timeline now is short.

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

      • B says:

        The article states that Thrower is not certain what happens if he doesn’t sign with Montreal (go back into the draft or become a free agent). There is nothing in it that says the Habs are not sure if they want to sign him or not. It does say that his agent has had discussions about a deal with Montreal. Perhaps Thrower’s side feels he deserves a better contract than what has been discussed so far?

        –Go Habs Go!–

  65. JUST ME says:

    So it is true ! Yesterday after reading the pathetic negative messages here i went to bed certain that things would never change in the Habs fan club and certainly not on HIO. We had lost a game ! The end of the world! Trade everyone ,bench the others ,M.T. is back to his usual try not to lose attitude and we probably were supposed to sweep the serie.
    I got to see people i never saw here and others that were coming out suddenly like zombies. The end of the world !

    Hydro Quebec is very reliable and we never have power outage. When i say never i mean never. Woke up this morning, no electricity and it did not come back before almost 3 hours later. So it is true! It`s a sign. I must rush to come here and tell you about it just before the sky comes crashing down in a matter of minutes maybe. The Habs lost !

  66. Forum Dog says:

    Bumped my thoughts on last night’s game to this thread since I came in late on the last one.

    Habs did a pretty damned good job for most of that game. But they sure did collapse when the Bruins put the physical pressure on. On both the tying and winning goal, Plekanec’s line got out-muscled down low. I mean, for the tying goal, you’ve got Plekanec, Gallagher, Bouillion and Weaver out there together. That is a recipe for disaster against a motivated Bruins lineup. Ditto for the winner.

    Eller’s line was -3 on the day, though the first Boston goal was a bit of broken play, and the last one was an empty-netter. They could have done a better job picking up the high slot and trailers on the first two goals, but they weren’t the problem from what I saw, even if the stats suggest otherwise.

    It doesn’t look like Boston is going to give the Pacioretty-Desharnais-Vanek time and space out there, so it might be worth considering Vanek on Plekanec’s LW or something. Put them back together on the PP, but maybe give the Bruins a different look at Vanek even strength. Put Weise on the RW and put Gallagher out with Pacioretty and DD.

    I disagreed with taking Moen out, and think he should get back in there. They need his physicality and experience against the Bruins IMO. Bournival was on with Plekanec and Gallagher for the winner, and they sure looked confused (both wingers were on their off wings when it went in). Bournival didn’t play a bad game, but it’s gotta be tough diving in against the Bruins after having not played much over the last couple of months.

    Bottom line, the Habs knew the Bruins were going to push hard in the 3rd, and they weren’t able to hold them off. It can’t be up to Price to win every game, and they are gonna have to find something extra. I don’t like the idea of flipping the lineup every friggin’ night, but I would like to see Moen slot back in (with one of Bournival or Prust out), and wouldn’t mind if either Murray or Tinordi took Bouillion’s spot. Based on last night’s game, the ice time for those players was:

    Prust = 7:29
    Bournival = 8:52
    Bouillion = 9:18

    All replaceable minutes. No need for MTL to panic, but showing a little more at 5-on-5 is going to be critical next game. They need come out of it with either a win, or at least the feeling that they can stay with the Bruins when the intensity ramps up. Game 1 Price bailed them out. Game 2 he couldn’t. Can’t let the Bruins dominate them on home ice.

  67. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Some people don’t want to see White replacing Prust. I love Prust & look at him as the sparkplug of this team. His game has abandoned him in the playoffs & I believe he should be a spectator on Tuesday. White can provide some much needed sandpaper.

  68. L Elle says:

    The last time we faced Boston, we came home with a 2-0 lead. Where did that get us?

    It got us to a place where we were over confident and complacent.

    I hope this loss hurt them to such a point that they learn huge from it. They had it, and let it slip. The really good teams with the proper leadership, come back and take it all.

    Myself, I will reserve my meltdown if, and only if, the Bruins win this series. How it stands now, Habs have just as much chance of excelling, and Bruins have just as much chance of screwing up.

    I believe!

  69. Bash says:

    On Tuesday the real series starts.

    Are the Habs as bad as they showed in game one? We had a long layoff and were simple rusty?

    Are the Bruins as good as they appeared in that eight minute stretch? No. A series of barely missed clearing chances, good bounces and lucky deflections gave them momentum. But up to that point we were very much in the game.

    Do we have options which just might give us an edge? Yes. Galchenyuk, Murray, Tinordi, White are all cards that can be played. (I would like to see the TinMan in for Cube)

    And now we have home ice advantage in a best of five with last change and of course the atmosphere.

    Throw in a good bounce here and there and we can win this series.

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  70. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Very proud of this team & what they’ve been able to do so far despite how much hockey experts dump on them & praise the dirtiest hockey team in the nhl, the Gooins. I thought Pierre McGuire won the lottery yesterday when Boston scored the go ahead goal(had to watch NBC because I was working). Mike Millburry, during the second intermission said the reason Montreal was winning is Carey Price, but no mention of our specialty teams & how much better we are than his friggin dump of a team.
    Don’t know why hockey people on TV are afraid to call Boston what they really are. Dirty, whiny & really ugly.

    • Bash says:

      The last card for me on the CBC broadcast was the positive take on Marchand’s antics. RDS all the way from here on in.

      “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  71. habs001 says:

    I believe the Habs will come out flying on Tuesday and have a lot of chances..The key is to get a couple of goals on those chances because if Rask stops them somehow Boston will get a couple of fluke or bad D decision goals…This scenario happened in their 4-1 win earlier this year……Next year the Habs have to add size to their D..Stick reach is poor on the Habs D also…The main 7 D on the Habs is filled with old players that had average careers…No way you can say that the Habs D is cup material…

  72. The Jackal says:

    Timo is gonna love this…

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  73. Blade says:

    I remember Mike Babcock saying that no team looks or seeks out adversity, but when it inevitably happens, the good teams will embrace it and learn from it.

    I don’t think anyone will argue that the Bruins are the better all around team, but that does not guarantee a series win.

    I respect the doomsayers opinions on this site that are suggesting this series is done, but I would prefer to see how the boys deal with this adversity and see what they are made of before we start thinking about what’s wrong and what to do about next year.

    Go Habs!!

  74. Maritime Ronn says:

    Have a wonderful Sunday Habs and fans.

    Something tells me we’ll be seeing Murray instead of Frankie B.

    Bouillon only played 9:18 yesteday, and only 2:32 in the 3rd period.
    His game average shift was 37 seconds.

    Bouillon has not been bad, yet the change will give the Habs a different look on the back end and get some Bruins thinking about getting hit, instead of giving hit.

  75. Danno says:

    First!

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  76. Danno says:

    I don’t think Chara ever apologized to Pacioretty

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  77. Maritime Ronn says:

    Parros is finished and very vulnerable

  78. punkster says:

    Ridiculous statement.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  79. RockinRey says:

    Disagree!

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    —Geoff Molson, Canadiens owner and president

  80. RockinRey says:

    He has sandpaper. He was not disciplined in staying this side of the edge and the staff quashed that. He can be effective providing he does not take penalties that are costly.

    He can be effective as an energy guy and a part of a push back line.
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    ‘This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted.’
    —Geoff Molson, Canadiens owner and president

  81. punkster says:

    ?

    Release the Subbang!!!

  82. Chris says:

    The idea that Markov, who has perhaps been the most solid defenceman in his own zone and a guy who can contribute offence, should be let go is just laughable.

    Who are you going to replace him with? Beaulieu and Tinordi are going to be decent players (and I think Beaulieu is by far the better of the two), but they aren’t ready for Markov’s minutes yet.

  83. punkster says:

    Old tune, out of tune, tuned out.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  84. Mattyleg says:

    I believe in hockey that winning games is the ultimate goal.
    That and personal growth.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  85. Maritime Ronn says:

    Just 2 questions:

    1) If Markov goes, who replaces his minutes – ALL of his 3 sector minutes…then, at what Cap cost?

    2) Have you ever seen Markov live?
    The question is not asked in a mean way because it’s just that so much more is going on vs. what we see on TV.

  86. punkster says:

    Ridiculous statement.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  87. Mattyleg says:

    Nope.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  88. RockinRey says:

    I would trade him for a package of a roster forward and draft picks and prospect. They have to get more skilled and bigger up front. Bottom line.

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    ‘This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted.’
    —Geoff Molson, Canadiens owner and president

  89. Fransaskois says:

    Chris, I’d have to say I’d disagree with Markov being “the most” solid in his own zone. There’s been a lot of missed coverage, turn-overs, and getting beat to the outside off the rush so far these playoffs. He’s been directly responsible for a couple of goals against and many more scoring chances. I think he’s being expected to do much more than he’s comfortable with and he’s not the same player as he was ~5yrs ago.

    That being said, we can’t let him go without replacing him (not with Tinordi/Beaulieu/Nygren/Pateryn). The team would absolutely need to be filling his spot with an experienced Top-4 defenceman. Our FA options would be players like Quincey, Meszaros, Pitkanen, or Niskanen. What we lose with Markov’s experience, we will likely make up for with mobility and physical play. I think it’s a real option if he’s looking for longer than a 1-2yr term as we’ve got some big contracts to sign.

  90. punkster says:

    Well, there’s also contracts and endorsements.

    Oh…oh…and the Stanley Can.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  91. D Mex says:

    One of many – scan the page …

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  92. Mattyleg says:

    But doesn’t that last thing come from winning games?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  93. Strummer says:

    He’s a UFA. Not trade-able.

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    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  94. Chris says:

    You’re not getting a package like that for a UFA. You either sign him (and he comes with a NTC) or you let him walk as a UFA. The best you could hope for is a 3rd or 4th round pick for his negotiating rights.

  95. Chris says:

    I’d agree in Game 1 of the Tampa Bay series. But since then, he’s been the best positional defender on the team.

    Does he get beat occasionally? Yes. But no defenceman on the team, including Subban, is winning more board battles right now than Markov. Markov has also been cleaning up a LOT of mistakes by his defensive partners (Emelin had been getting turnstiled in the Tampa series, but has become more solid against Boston) and the forwards.

    I can live with the odd mistake from Markov because of how many he cleans up.

  96. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Fransakois!
    Welcome back!

  97. punkster says:

    Yep!

    Release the Subbang!!!

  98. RockinRey says:

    I believe he will be signed . But I dont think he has to finish his career in Montreal.

    Habs fans have to ask ourselves this. Even if they go on to catch lightning they should make wholesale changes with the roster. And one of those changes has to come in the existing top for on D.

    Bye to Murray, Cube, Gio, perhaps Briere, Paros, Moen? even a few others. These are bit parts that can be a depth guy on another team….even allow the Habs to be competitive but, they are nothing to write home about at this stage of their careers.

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    ‘This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted.’
    —Geoff Molson, Canadiens owner and president

  99. RockinRey says:

    huh? He’s trade-able . They could still sign him and trade him. Which I believe is the right thing to do.

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    ‘This organization going forward must set its sights on competing for the game’s ultimate prize every season — and no lesser standard should be accepted.’
    —Geoff Molson, Canadiens owner and president

  100. Strummer says:

    why would he sign if the the team was going to trade him?

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    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  101. Fransaskois says:

    Finally with internet again, I’ve been away too long!

  102. Fransaskois says:

    Fair enough, he does do his fair share of mop up duty. I don’t think he’s bad by any means, I’m still a big Markov fan. However, are there options out there that are cheaper, younger, stronger, more reliable, and might have a bigger impact on our team? I think it’s possible and worth looking into. It’s consistently speculated that he’s asking around ~6mil AAV for three years. Is he worth it?

  103. Maritime Ronn says:

    @ jlgib1019

    GMMB has come nowhere near gambling with the future of the franchise or trading away precious 1st Round Draft choices.

    Almost all the acquisitions have been via the UFA route, or very small sacrifices to be super competitive in the Now.

    Parros was a excellent signing, until a 1st game accident.
    Asset cost? NOTHING.

    Doug Murray was a good UFA signing at $1.5M
    Asset cost? Nothing.
    ( Pitt payed 2 precious 2nd round picks for Murray just 1 year ago)

    Briere?
    Still to be seen.
    Asset Cost? Nothing.

    Weaver? 5th Round choice that was re-couped in the Vanek trade.

  104. Habfan17 says:

    I would add Weisse into that as a solid pick up to offset the first group

    Habfan17

  105. BJ says:

    @jlgib1019′ I enjoy some of your comments but if at all possible please try and post a few more positives.

  106. Mavid says:

    We call them neanderthals..because they are..not sure what your point is..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  107. JohnInTruro says:

    Parros was not signed, traded for a 7th rounder. We did give up Collberg and 2nd for Vanek.
    I think Bergevin has done a gone job. I wasn’t happy with the Vanek trade, hoping he signs and proves me wrong, or takes us to the promised land then I don’t care what he does.

  108. Maritime Ronn says:

    Oh, excuse me
    Yes, a 7th rounder for Parros

  109. Maritime Ronn says:

    I liked Bergeron also, especially when he coached the Nordiques

  110. frontenac1 says:

    Le Tigre!!!

  111. third generation haber says:

    One is better than none (although I would dress Tinordi also). The Bruins didn’t ruff-up the leafs last year and Orr was the only deterrent on the ice. Murray would make an impact and may allow our other players to play with more fearlessness. We need to, not match, but at least respond to the Bruins physicality. Our blue line should represent an obstacle not a runway.

    j.p. murray

  112. D Mex says:

    How’d your Bruins do against MTL this regular season ?

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  113. chesterfiled says:

    Ha! You rascally old pirate. No cheerlead please. Four years? Meh, the strategy is one road block in the CH zone for usual Bruins forecheck to activate mobility out of the trench. Aye, push back ya big oaf!

  114. shlamiel says:

    REALITY YES get a referral to see a doctor in ur case a PSYCHIATRIST.

  115. Hobie says:

    He’s not the best in the world. I think he’s hovering around the top 5. Sometime in there, sometimes just out.

  116. BJ says:

    Agreed on that one. That line has to stay together. Otherwise Eller could enter another season long depression and Bourque also. They have been great, so the status quo.

  117. third generation haber says:

    For most of that series, if memory serves me correct, Fraser was out due to a concussion from a puck to the face, and MacClaren was a healthy scratch for not having learned to skate yet.

    j.p. murray

  118. Phil C says:

    If Boston keeps playing from behind the entire series, you are right, they will lose.

  119. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Agree about cold, but he must be very hungry, ruminating on what he could bring to the series. In any case, vs a team like Boston, injuries may well dictate this before MT does. Meantime, non-NHL-calibre Bouillon has been pretty effective imo, obviously punching above his weight, I agree. Didn’t mean Diaz/Weber style mobility, just meant the kind that covers more of the ice in your own end, something of course lacking in Murray’s game. A trade-off and gamble for sure.

  120. habsguru says:

    rather shocked that Diaz/Weber are offered as a solution to play against the bruins…


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