Budaj gets start in goal for Habs against Sharks

After getting a day off Friday, the Canadiens were back on the ice for a morning skate in San Jose before facing the Sharks Saturday night (10 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690) in the final game of their four-game West Coast trip.

Carey Price wasn’t on the ice at the beginning of the skate, but did join his teammates midway through after having treatment on his lower-body injury. Peter Budaj was the first goalie off the ice and will get the start against the Sharks.

Brandon Prust, who has been sidelined with an upper-body injury, was wearing a regular practice jersey instead of the non-contact jersey he had been wearing. Prust has been cleared to play, but won’t face the Sharks. He will return to the lineup Wednesday when the Boston Bruins visit the Bell Centre. Michael Bournival (concussion) was still wearing a non-contact jersey at the morning skate.

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked at Saturday’s morning skate:



Our best wishes and thoughts from everyone at HI/O go out to Canadiens prospect Tim Bozon and his family. Bozon has been placed in an induced coma at a Saskatoon hospital as he battles meningitis. The 19-year-old forward was selected by the Canadiens in the third round (64th overall) of the 2012 NHL entry draft.

(Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)

Habs vs. Sharks preview, NHL.com

Game Day report, Canadiens.com

Post-practice interviews (video), Canadiens.com

Game notes, sanjosesharks.com

Murray faces Sharks for first time since being traded, San Jose Mercury News

This week’s HI/O Show highlights

Habs prospect Bozon in induced coma, montrealgazette.com

Habs’ Stanley Cup odds get a boost, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Habs given day off after loss to Coyotes, by Pat Hickey

Mitchell has Sabres fan club growing in Greenfield Park, by The Gazette’s Stu Cowan


  1. CHicoHab says:

    Got to watching cock roaches corner about one minute in. Unless I missed it there was no mention of the Vanek trade. Had it been to Boston or the Leafs or for that matter any team other than Habs you betcha he’d be all over it. About what a great player he is. Snubbed.

  2. doogie says:

    Kadri makes my skin crawl.

  3. 25insight says:

    I didn’t have high expectations vs the coyotes. This is the game i’ve been waiting for. Pot one, Vanek 😀

  4. B says:

    Dubnyk stopped 38 of 40 shots last night in his first game as a Dog. He is watching Mayer in nets vs Tom Kostopoulos and the Penguins tonight. Dumont’s 15th has them up 1-0 late in the first.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  5. jols says:

    Liveblog is up.

  6. LeGrosBill says:

    TB dominating Bahston in the 1st but still 0-0…

  7. jols says:

    Yikes! Either the Leafs are on fire or the Flyers are still asleep.

  8. doogie says:

    Every time the Leafs score I wanna puke.

  9. Danno says:

    Thornton the goof


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  10. habs-hampton says:

    Just watched the M. St. Louis interview. Did MacLean actually say that Marty had a temper tantrum over the Olympic snub???

    Classless or just plain stupid!

  11. ABHabsfan says:

    Medals aside, and of course we are all very proud of all our Olympians,
    but our (Canadian) girls are smokin’ hot! Damn!

    “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
    Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

  12. habs-hampton says:

    At the ACC tonight, why didn’t they honor any of the Leaf Olympic medalists?

    Ummm… ohhhhh.. Never mind.

  13. Danno says:

    Go Tampa.

    And make sure it’s a two-point game.


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  14. B says:

    Redundant comment removed, a link to a similar Gazette story was added to the articles listed above.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  15. MICP says:

    Going to the game tonight and praying that it will not be a blow out.
    Love our habs but we do not match up well at all.
    Budaj would have to have the game of his life

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Have a great time, MICP!
      Remember how we didn’t match up well in the 2010 playoffs!
      (But you’re right about Budaj, although I think for it to be competitive, every Hab needs to bring his A game).
      Jealous. Enjoy.

    • Born in a Bad Year says:

      Me too. Just drove down from Victoria..

      Rocking my game worn O’Byrne jersey. Never get to wear it much otherwise.

  16. habstrinifan says:

    WOW! There’s lots of optimism on the site tonite. I think we getting Vanek and no ‘competitor’ really getting better is giving us a marvelous high.

  17. B says:

    Grégoire gets his 35th assisted by Hudon who had a pair of assists. BC, however, blows a 4-2 lead in the last 5 minutes of the 3rd and ends up losing 5-4 to Rimouski in OT.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  18. habstrinifan says:

    HABS look like better than an average team… on PAPER!

    Top goalie/top d-man/top forward/ great rookie… etc etc.

  19. punkster says:

    Consumer Reports really should check out CBC for the best of the best:

    Release the Subbang!!!

  20. Dunboyne Mike says:

    @24 Cups
    Hey, saw your reply last thread. What was that old joke about the difference between animal-testing using rats and using lawyers?

    Some people feel sorry for rats? Was that it?

    And now to attempt to follow the advice you received about smiley faces:


    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      OMG. I just lost my smiley-face virginity.

    • 25insight says:

      I know being demanding won’t change anything, but I feel like the comments system has no decent interaction and that fact that you have to scroll down half a thread to see a post you like feels like a huge waste of time. That’s why I lean towards http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/ sometimes. Don’t get me wrong, i like the more formal and serious discussion here above all else, but i haven’t seen much innovation on the most dedicated Montreal Canadiens website.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Your avatar is so scary, I feel like apologising at once!

        (which makes this another frivolous post – sorry again!)

        If demanding could change something, what innovation would you favour?

        • 25insight says:

          This is just my two cents, I would start with…

          -Points system for comments. too many negative votes hides the comment, but can be seen if you so choose.

          -Better profile system, where you can see your list of comments and the comments of the people who have replied to you.

          -You gain the points from comments and they add up over time, so you can see your total amount of points and see who contributes plentiful quality posts.

          -An Inbox. A discussion that is a very back and forth style can clog the page IMO. So why not continue that same discussion through a few messages to explore the subject more?

          Anyways, just a few ideas.

          PS My avatar is Zach Galifianakis

  21. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Evening all.

    Didn’t know about Neil fighting his Sens’ team-mates in practice. Including McGrattan?!

    I am entirely happy Budaj gets the start. We can surely afford to give Price enough time for a full recovery (or as full as possible). I also believe it’s really important for the back-up to start in meaningful and/or challenging games.

    • Habcouver says:

      Boods deserves the vote of confidence too, regardless of what the outcome is. Not many of us giving our boys a chance. SJ is a beast, and hopefully we learn a lot from these elite teams.

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

    • CJ says:

      Yes, I can confirm that Mike. Neil has had his share of fights with teammates. Following the Boston game (in which Ottawa was blasted 5-0), the rumour was that Neil and Spezza got into it. Oddly, Spezza missed the next few games with what was reported as an injury. Senators went on a little winning streak.

      It just doesn’t get press as this is not (Ottawa) a hockey market.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Cheers, CJ.
        Spezza is one thing, but McGrattan?!

        Fair play to you, CJ, for the updates and reminders about the kid Bozon. I, too, have been thinking a great deal about him and his family. It’s great reading your posts here. Every hour or so there are new posters who come to the site unaware of what has happened and I know they are grateful for and responsive to your posts (which are also gently tailored for all faiths and none — well done).

        • CJ says:

          Thank you kindly Mike. Just a small part of a bigger fraternity – we are Canadiens fans. We need to rally around one of our own. Positive vibes are needed right now. If only for 30 seconds, we should all hold him in our heart and mind.

    • BJ says:

      I would have prefered Tokarski based Budaj’s last performance, but lets give him a chance at redemption, we could use the two points and make it a .500 road trip.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Really loved Tokarski’s game this week and so I NEARLY agree with you. But on paper, at least, it would be the NHL’s best vs an AHL goalie. If it happened by necessity I’d be all for it and would love to see him rise to the challenge. But I don’t like the potential morale-hit to Budaj if he ends up backing up the new guy. I think Budaj has easily earned the right to start tonight (the shakiness last game you refer to duly noted). Cheers

  22. habstrinifan says:

    Gee this eveing isnt starting out right with me. But here goes.

    I am no fan of his and I question a lot about him, but I dont think we should make fun of Therrien’s heavily accented English.

    What he says is fair game. How he says it in his non native tongue isnt.

    There! I’ve said my piece.

  23. frontenac1 says:

    Every little ting gonna be alright! No problem mon!More Rum,More Ganja! Irie!

    • CJ says:

      Yes! Welcome back buddy!

    • D Mex says:

      I saw your posts from Runaway Bay – spent time in that area and know it well : Red Stripe, Ting, VX, …
      Also managed to educate a few folks and confer PhD’s on the game of hockey > basically, 2 words : Montreal Canadiens ❗

      Good friend still runs a dive operation in Port Antonio.
      Evrytin’ cool maan, evrytin’ Irie …

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

  24. habstrinifan says:

    Probably already noted, but I hope folks dont get mad at me again for technically ‘non hockey’ post. Looking down the ‘links’ for reading, I was floored for a bit.

    Bozon in induced coma! WOW! My prayers go out to the young man and to his entire family. May GOD be with them all.

  25. 24 Cups says:

    Projected Sharks Lineup:

    Brent Burns – Joe Thornton – Joe Pavelski
    Patrick Marleau – Logan Couture – Matt Nieto
    Raffi Torres – James Sheppard – Tommy Wingels
    Marty Havlat – Andrew Desjardins – Adam Burish

    Marc-Edouard Vlasic – Jason Demers
    Matt Irwin – Justin Braun
    Scott Hannan – Dan Boyle

    Antti Niemi
    Alex Stalock

    I wonder when Hertl and Stuart come back. These guys could do some damage if Niemi can hold up.

  26. jols says:

    3rd period was all Jets but the Sens hold on for the 5-3 victory and a much needed 2 points. Too bad.

    • CJ says:

      One word….goaltending.

      • The Jackal says:

        Nah man, sure Anderson stopped a bunch of shots but the Sens got some timely goals and just ran with it. They aren’t a good team at all and Anderson is not a good goalie IMO.

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

        • CJ says:

          Oh, I agree. I was thinking more that the Jets struggled today to defend their net.

          • The Jackal says:

            Ah yes, that’s true.
            Can’t stand the Sens, but the Jets allowed too many opportunities.

            Hockey sine stercore tauri.

          • CJ says:

            They did. They weren’t ready to play a full 60 minutes. There isn’t a team in this league who isn’t beatable if they don’t come to play.

  27. The Jackal says:

    Cant’ see the reply button, someone must have stolen it cus I can’t reply to the Vanek to Minny thread…

    Wife + home + school in Minny = signs there – not the best logic.
    What about cap space, best fit, term, money, etc…? Those are all very important factors that the clairvoyant are leaving out of their prophecies.

    Minny could have had Vanek at the deadline and acquired a long-term roster player rather than a rental they may not re-sign PLUS running the risk of also not signing Vanek. I’m sure they have the cap space to sign him but does that fit into their long-term plans? And how much term are they willing to give? There may be other teams equally as attractive that are willing to give a better contract, and not just term and money but also other provisions which Minny may not want.

    Another important thing to consider is what if Vanek ends up liking the Habs – what if he is a good fit? What if we do well in the playoffs? It’s very possible that MB and Vanek share the same vision for his role on the team – he could sell it to him as being part of a contender in the very near future and playing a big role, perhaps that is better than going to another team.

    Lastly, just because Vanek wants to test the market doesn’t mean he would not re-sign with us. He could very well just enjoy the ratcheting up of his value and then just take the best offer – it could be with the Habs or another team that is not Minny.

    All this is to say that it’s far from certain that Vanek will be with the Wild next season. He could be a Hab if his stretch here goes well, or he could go elsewhere. This is all very similar to applying to a grad program to your alma mater – you went to school there, you have friends there, you lived there – but does that mean the admissions committee will want you? And does that mean that school is the best fit for you? Often times people are willing to go elsewhere if the situation is a better fit for them and their family, and it’s possible that Vanek gets an offer that matches that description.

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  28. LeGrosBill says:

    So I’m thinking I’ll root for Philly and TB before the game only cuz I can stand them more than the leaves and the ruins.

  29. GGtheHab says:

    Looking realistically at the schedule coming out of the break I thought 6 of 14 points would be pretty good…now with Price out, we have a chance to get to eight or nine. Now we have a couple days to work TV20 into the mix before a statement game at home vs the broons..(spit)..then a couple more days off for other teams to play their games at hand…starting next Sat with the sens we have nine games in 15 nights..this will be a very important stretch to see where we really are in terms of contender or pretender…buckle up should be quite a ride..

    • LeGrosBill says:

      Hemsky got four As for Sens today. That trade might pull them in the top 8.

      • CJ says:

        Even with a win today, they will be four points behind the Wings, with Detroit holding a game in hand. It is not impossible, but they have a lot of ground to make up. The three point games are killers.

        If it takes 93 points to get in, Ottawa will need to go 13-5. Detroit needs to finish 11-8 to get 93 points. If they tie at 93, Detroit currently holds the first tiebreaker (ROW).

  30. boing007 says:

    Bring back the EGG line!

    Richard R

  31. SmartDog says:

    Hey Timo,
    Add to your book of Therrien wisdom: “Vanek is a player can play”.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  32. Timo says:

    Great game in Peg.

  33. Timo says:

    Buff man just made it 5-3. Come on Jets!
    I wish Habs had him. He is one big strong dude.

  34. jols says:

    Jets are looking like their old selves again. They had a nice ‘new coach bounce’ in the standings but look like a disheveled mess again.

  35. Timo says:

    Michael Therrien: “Shark pose a big challenge.”… Wow. THAT’s wisdom.

  36. ianism says:

    how are people liking the habs’ playoff chances? i feel we can take toronto/TB in the 1st round, and Boston is weaker this year because of their defence – plus we have kinda owned them for the past couple years. but the 3rd round? if it’s Pittsburgh, maybe. but Philly? they’ve been pretty good since they hit rock-bottom at the beginning of the season.

    either way, i think the stanley cup is probably going to whoever comes out of the west – provided they aren’t too beat up by all the other excellent teams out there. they are just on another level this year. i, for one, will be watching as much of their games as possible. SJ-LA and CHI/STL-COL will be awesome series

    • CJ says:

      I want them to make the playoffs first. Honestly, I have no issue matching up with Boston in the first round if we drop into a wildcard position. Again, let’s not put the cart in front of the horse. It would be a huge plus if we could pick up a point or two tonight.

  37. Sportfan says:

    It’s funny how Prust Weise and even Bournival are guys who can get the ball rolling and sometimes score sit while Bourque, Moen and I hate that he is in this list but Eller are given chances and aren’t doing anything 🙁

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  38. habs-hampton says:

    Why is everyone so certain that Vanek will walk and try to go to Minny? Is his wife from Minnnesota? (serious question) If so, good luck to MB convincing him to stay if Minny offers him something.

    • jols says:

      Wife is from Minny (happy wife happy life).

      He owns a home in Minny.

      He went to University in Minny.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Will Minny want him? Will they pay what he wants? Angelo Esposito was a hometown boy, he was rated higher and was still available when the Habs picked in the first round. He wanted to be a Hab! They did not want him! Good thing they didn’t!


        • B says:

          I remember a lot of outrage from many in the Montreal media when they didn’t draft Esposito back in 2007.

          –Go Habs Go!–

          • Frank2468 says:

            ianism you can call in him kind of dick and that’s OK? But I use the who wears the pants in the family and you go all crazy wow really lol

          • ianism says:

            a) i was using past tense – he likely isn’t anymore.
            b) you were being sexist and wrong at the same time.
            c) i did not go crazy.

            i’m going to go play outsite instead of waiting around for you to get a life

          • Frank2468 says:

            Sorry ianism I missed your message I was playing outside guess I beat you to it?? Hows life treating you? mine is great thanks for your concern? Not going to answer anymore don’t have time plus I refuse to get in to a battle of wits with an unarmed person. Have a nice night.

      • D Mex says:

        He’s currently playing for the Crown Jewel in all of hockey.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

      • B says:

        His wife may not be keen to leave extra millions on the table if Minnesota doesn’t make a really good offer. Money is most often the major factor in these kind of decisions for both players and their wives. They may like the idea of signing with Minnesota, but doing so next season is not a total certainty at this point IMO.

        –Go Habs Go!–

      • habs-hampton says:

        Money isn’t everything. Luongo discovered that when he signed a big money deal a million miles from his wife’s hometown. he regretted it for years. And Vanek is approaching the age where he probably wants to make a permanent year-round home.

      • slapshot777 says:

        Well at seasons end MB needs to get a clear answer from Vanek on his intentions. If he wants to test the free market or want to go to Minny, why not have MB talk to the Minny GM and see if they want to do a swap of UFAs give us Moulson and they take Vanek.

        Moulson could very well also work out for us. I don’t think he has any ties to anyone in particular. So he maybe willing to come to Montreal and sign a contract and we still get a goal scorer.

        To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

    • Sportfan says:

      Apparently he went to school there so there’s a personal connection there

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      • Frank2468 says:

        Ya well if MB should ofter him more money and contract then Minny then maybe there will be a monitory connection with Habs? And if he still runs to Minny cause wifey saves so then we know who wears the pants in the family.

        • ianism says:

          honestly, get out of here with that ‘who wears the pants’ nonsense. even aside from being incorrect, it’s sexist as hell.
          he’ll make his choice based on the best career options and what is best for his family. his connection to minnesota is not only his marriage – he’s clearly at least somewhat attached to the place himself. plus, it’s a great place to live, apparently

  39. theox_8 says:

    I can’t wait for the day that chucky is in the top six on this team . However for me it could be a while .

  40. gordispitz says:

    COME ON , TIM… praying for you,, please, let the gods not take our man…

  41. jols says:

    Old school hockey game developing in Winnipeg.

    How Cowen survived that tilt with Peluso I’ll never know. He got rocked by 3 or 4 haymakers but didn’t buckle. Tough kid.

  42. Sportfan says:

    I disagree with Weise not playing I think its a dumb move.

    What’s the word on Price?

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  43. HABZ24 says:

    That bum eller couldnt put a puck in the ocean off a rowboat, put galchenyuk at center for the love of gravy


  44. habs001 says:

    Hemsky 3 assists so far..3-1 ottawa..4 assists now

    • CJ says:

      Ottawa better win today. A loss would make the hill that much higher to climb.

      • Timo says:

        … and your problem with that is? You better hope Mavid doesn’t read this or you’re a dead man.

        • CJ says:

          With all due respect to Mavid, I can not think of anyone in this world you dislikes the Senators more then myself. Further, I have some very good reasons to hold them in a special place. I would be happy to share my stories, in person, at the next Summit.

  45. Phil C says:

    This will be an interesting game because when San Jose was in Montreal, I thought the Habs got completely outcoached. San Jose had a plan to disrupt their breakout and the Habs were unable to adjust. I am very curious to see if the Habs have made any adjustments or will it be Bart Simpson and the cupcakes again. Zap.Ouch. Zap. Ouch. Zap. Ouch…….

  46. joeybarrie says:

    2012 Los Angeles Kings won the Stanley Cup:
    3rd place in their division
    8th place in their conference
    Quick went .929 sv% during the season GAA 2.36
    Top 5 goal scorers:
    -Kopitar 25 goals
    -Williams 22 goals
    -Brown 22 goals
    -Richards 18 goals
    -Doughty 10 goals

    2014 Montreal Canadiens: (goals are estimated based on current productivity)
    3rd place in their Division
    Price is currently .925 sv% and a GAA of 2.33
    -MaxPac 40
    -Pleks 23
    -Gallagher 21
    -Gally 17
    -PK 13

    None of that includes Vanek.

    THANK YOU MB FOR THE GREAT ATTEMPT. I think the end of this season can be excellent and the Play offs can be spectacular.
    Or we can fall short again. But im glad we are trying, and only giving up a second rounder….

    • HabsPooch says:

      +1. Pretty much what I was thinking in my post below.

    • habs001 says:

      For the Habs in the playoffs it will depend on if they are the team that scores the big goal in the third or if they are the team that gives it up…Also overtime outcomes will be huge…This is why for a team like the Habs a first round series can go well but it can go bad very fast like last year…

    • HUDSONHAB says:

      It’s up to MT now.
      Get Bourque, Eller and Briere going.
      Find Vanek a spot, not with Gionta Pleks.
      Find right 3rd/4th line combo.


    • LizardKing12 says:

      Even though there are a fair amount of similarities between the two teams there is a key difference, size. The only LA King to play in all 20 games during their cup run that was under 6’0 was Mike Richards who is 5’11 but plays with a ton of grit. They had several players in the 6’2-6’4 200-220 lbs range and their smaller players were all 6’0-6’1 190-205 lbs. That was a big, physical team built for a long playoff run.

      The Habs have 5 players in their top 9 in the 5’7-5’11 range. Adding Vanek helps tremendously but this is still a group of forwards that lacks the size and grit to compete in a long cup run. It isn’t impossible but we’ve seen how the playoffs work and bigger teams tend to be more successful. The exception to that rule lately seems to be the Hawk’s who are not a very big team but they have elite skill that we lack. Last season if you pro-rate the seasons of their most productive players (assuming they were to remain healthy) you get Kane 95p, Toews 84, Hossa 64, Sharp 59, Keith 48. In comparison the Habs leading scorer is PK Subban with 45 points and he’s on pace for 56 which isn’t even as much as the Hawks fourth leading scorer and 40 points less than their leading scorer. In today’s NHL you either need to be a big team with balanced scoring (LA,BOS) or have high end skill (CHI,PIT). We fall into neither of those categories, we are an undersized team that struggles to score goals. A deep playoff run will depend on Price playing lights out and Pacioretty and Vanek scoring goals at Cammy’s ridiculous .7 goals per game pace from the 09-10 playoffs.

  47. jimmy shaker says:

    So does price come back next saturday vs the sens?

    Shaker out!

    • ABHabsfan says:

      690 was saying yesterday it would be Wednesday v Bruins

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

      • jimmy shaker says:

        Is that a would or a could……budashe does have that great record vs the cubs, and if he has a great game tonight?????? I don’t know. I do think if he is ready, then yes he has to get back in there.

        Shaker out!

  48. JF says:

    The Habs haven’t won in San Jose since 1999.

  49. 24 Cups says:

    San Jose beat Pittsburgh last time out and they mainly did it by thumping them into the ice. Don’t look now but Raffi Torres is back in the line-up. This guy is a hockey hooligan with no on-off switch. That’s why Douglas Murray is on the team even if he can’t skate or move the puck that well.

    Personally, the toughest part of tonight’s game is 24 Cups having to see Larry Robinson behind the San Jose bench. Apparently he wanted to come here and the timing would have been perfect with the young Dmen waiting in the wings. Why didn’t the Habs jump at the chance? The only reason I can come up with is MB and MT didn’t want to have a Stanley Cup coach hovering in the background. Even if Robinson has clearly stated he doesn’t want to be a head coach again. All it would take is for the team to go off the rails which might quickly lead to Molson asking for Robinson to step in on an “interim” basis.

    I get the logic but that’s not how you build a competent leadership team. Just think what Larry could do for underperforming Dmen like Emelin and Gorges as well as kids like Tinordi and Beaulieu. What a blunder.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I choose to blame MT cuz I blindly like MB. I actually think MB probably did allow MT to hire his coaches. I too wish we had Larry behind the bench.

      • ABHabsfan says:

        I remember reading a few months ago about this situation with Robinson. Whether coincidence or not, MB was playing in a hockey tournament with JJD one weekend, around when Robinson was offering his services. MB did not return the call, came back from the tournament and JJ was the d-man coach. I think the position was given to JJD as a favour from his buddy, MB. There is a french/english angle as well since Gallant was already there coaching the forwards. Need balance at minimum or the PQ could hold a referendum based on the make-up of the Habs’ coaching staff

        “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
        Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

        • D Mex says:

          Larry Robinson speaks very decent french and holds an elite hockey pedigree with the Habs.
          In case you haven’t heard, there’s a bit of hockey tradition here that existed about a century before the group you refer to.
          ” La Ville est Hockey ” – throw it into a translator if you don’t know what this means.

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

    • JF says:

      Steve – If Larry Robinson had really wanted to come to Montréal, he would have set up an interview. He could have flown up to Montréal, had the interview, and returned the next day or even late that night. It was more important to him to stay in Florida to look after his property (I think there’d been a hurricane). If the job with the Habs had really mattered to him, he could have delegated someone to stand in for him in Florida for a day or two. All he said about it later was that it was an interesting idea but the timing wasn’t right.

      It’s quite possible Robinson simply preferred San Jose. He has family near there, and there is much less pressure. Did he not step down as Devils’ coach for health reasons? He found the pressure was not good for him.

  50. Bill H says:

    Since its an established fact that DD is the only forward on the team that makes those he plays with play at a higher level….

    Eller – DD – Bourque

    DD can kick start both Bourque and Eller, our two most under performing forwards. Then we will have 3 scoring lines firing on all cylinders.

  51. Commandant says:

    Yet more interviews.

    15-year-old Sean Day, the OHL’s latest exceptional player and potential 2016 first overall pick on the pressure that brings, the OHL playoff chase, and confirming that he has made a decision between Hockey Canada and USA hockey.

    Spencer Martin on what its like to be a goaltender and be drafted by Patrick Roy in the third round of the NHL Draft.

    Go Habs Go!


  52. joeybarrie says:

    Wondering whether the Vanek trade was good or bad???
    I can sum it up for everyone very simply…..
    If we make the Conf finals and do well the rest of the season. If Vanek gets 16 points and we end up 3rd in the East. If Price plays like he has, and PK get back to normal…. This trade will be considered good. If Vanek is convinced to stay, this trade will be considered a steal and the best thing the Habs have done in 20 years.
    If Vanek gets 14 points, we slip down to 4th in the regular season, and we lose in the first two rounds of the playoffs. Then this trade will be considered the first step in MB getting fired. If Vanek walks then we will be calling for MBs head.

    No one will look back and say MB traded a superfluous 2nd rounder for a chance at a deep run and a miracle Cup win. No one will say how we tried to keep Vanek by showing him what its like here.

    If we make it to the Finals, they will say we got lucky (again) and all that matters is we didn’t win the cup. When Collberg scores his first goal, we will hear all about how stupid it was to trade him for a rental and MB is the worst GM in history. Until he wins another Cup (whether it be here or somewhere else) and only then will we shut up.

    • Phil C says:

      Judging this trade on the outcome of future events is not fair IMO. You can only judge a decision based on the information that was known or should have been known at the time of the decision. Based on the information we have now, was it a good trade or not?

    • naweed235 says:

      Even if Vanek scores 0 points until the end of the season and walks on July 1st, I still think this was a great trade. Like it or not, we picked up the best player available at the deadline without selling the whole farm. We have guys like De la Rose that were ahead of Collberg and even if he turns out to be a good NHLer, the trade would still be worth it.
      Every year we as fans are crying about how we never get the big cheese at the deadline and stand pat while other teams load up for a playoff run.
      Now that we have picked up an impact player, people are complaining…

    • HabsPooch says:

      I don’t understand the extra love for Collberg? Scouts rate his ceiling as a second line right winger..not a first liner. His stats aren’t anything to rave about either. How many here can say they’ve watched Collberg play and know what he’s all about? Besides the world juniors where he played well but wasn’t a standout it’s very hard to know for sure his future success.
      We already have Gallagher as our second line right winger. Bergevin will still be looking to acquire a first line winger down the road. Whether it’s through free agency, the draft, or signing Vanek. This is not a huge risk and will not impact Bergevin’s future employment with the Habs. If the Habs make a deep run in the playoffs, with the help of Vanek, the experience our young core will receive will be priceless.
      Besides, the Habs have a bunch of skilled wingers in the system that are comparable to Collberg. A much needed trade for the Habs and a thinking out of the box type of trade. Good for Bergevin and the organization for having the courage . Let’s support the trade and move forward!

    • I have seen the light___Goal! says:

      I am very satisfied.
      We needed scoring and got it.
      Future who knows.
      Stanley wants to stay in Canada.
      We are his best chance.

  53. rhino514 says:

    Worried about Budaj tonight

  54. GGtheHab says:

    Jut heard Cowen and neil had a tussle at practice..if that has been PK and any hab forward it would have been the lead story on TSN…

    • CJ says:

      Neil has fought half the team at practice. It used to be great fodder for the local media. He fought McGratton, Emery, Spezza…..

      In any other hockey market this would matter. In Ottawa, nothing matters….

  55. byebyegomez says:

    Let Galchenyuk play! Why isn’t he playing with Pleks and Vanek. Don’t stifle him. Allow him to be creative and to play with other skilled players.

  56. Habfan10912 says:

    1-1 Jets/Sens late 1st.

  57. Gehlsen says:

    Winnipeg !score! Woot
    Ugh Ottawa scores

    Les Habitant!

  58. Habilis says:

    It’s high time for Max to inject some of his Wolverine blood into Carey. Regenerative capabilities and all that.

    Off topic: Test driving my new avatar. It’s my dog wearing a hat. Yes, he’s a fan too.

  59. Prop says:

    Hopefully this will be remedied sooner than later.

    Sergio Momesso ‏@SergioMomesso36 27m
    #habson690 Price Looking good in his side to side movements, but not as much up and down movements.


  60. Habfan10912 says:

    Prust cleared to play. Expected back in the lineup Wendsday. Who sits? Bourque? Moen?

  61. HabinBurlington says:

    Something different about the present Habs team which MB has gambled on versus the Habs team Gainey built on. The age of our core players!

    Players like Galchenyuk, Subban, Eller, Tinordi, Gallagher, Bournival, DD, MaxPac, maybe Beaulieu, could learn a great deal from a playoff run. Subban has been there before, but as a raw rookie, this will be his transition to a leader I feel.

    I have to believe this is part of what MB is gambling on, that the team has a bit of a run in the playoffs and players learn immensely from it.

    • Phil C says:

      Or win the East and see what happens in the final? Toronto or Tampa are beatable in the first round. Boston has had trouble against the Habs and Chara is trending down so that is a winnable series. I’m not convinced Pittsburgh even gets out of the Atlantic with their goaltending. They seem ripe for an upset so the ECF could be against some Cinderella team. The path to the final is not as scary as in other years, assuming the Habs are healthy.

  62. Maritime Ronn says:

    Great to see Coach Therrien sticking with Tinordi-Subban.

    BIG test against the San Jose Top 6:

    San Jose has the 7th best record for 5X5 hockey
    Habs are ranked 20th

    Specialty teams: Slight advantage Habs.
    Habs rank 13th
    San Jose 21st

    Habs rank 5th
    San Jose 8th

  63. jimmy shaker says:

    Wasting briere on the 4th line and what the purpose of the 4th line is……to bring energy, to hit and to pick up or change the momentum. Would rather bourque sit, briere on the 3rd line, and weezy hop back in on the 4th line. And frankie boo in for weaver. Okay, i’ll give him one more shot, since vanek is getting another shot as well. LOL!

    Here’s to budashe coming up with a masterful game tonight!

    Shaker out!

  64. CJ says:

    My two cents regarding WJC’s comments below;

    IMO, I think WJC has made some valid points. The reality is, we will not fully appreciate the scope of this trade for another 3-5 years. We may flip the rights to Vanek for a pick, who could end up being another Galley. We might not make the playoffs, in which case Collberg is the only asset to leave the organization. The second round pick could unearth the Isles a franchise player. Collberg himself could become a consistent 50 point guy…… We simply don’t know.

    What I do know is this; We have put the hockey world on notice that Montreal is once again on the map. We have sent a very strong message to the players within our dressing room that the time to press forward is now. We have sent a message of confidence across the league indicating that Montreal is willing to support their players and is unafraid to take a chance and make a move when opportunity knocks.

    I had a conversation with a former NHL player this summer and asked him about Bergevin. He told me he was regarded as a nice guy, perhaps the funniest man in hockey. I asked him about drawing players to Montreal and he told me that it was not a preferred destination. IMO, this move improves that perception. If the cost is Collberg and a second round pick to shift the perception of NHL executives and players alike, then I think that it is worth the risk associated with the deal.

    Truth is, we may not resign Vanek. We hold a trump card as the only franchise who can offer the 8th year. I’m not suggesting that we use it, but it is there if needed. Two weeks ago I advocated for a move to bring in Shae Weber. I wanted to make a splash and put the league on notice that Montreal was a premier destination. This move, although not as significant, has helped to send the very same message.

    In closing, I hated the idea of the conventional approach. When I thought that Weaver was going to be our only move I was dissappointed, if only because it reeked of the status quo. I have spoken openly about going against the grain, which I believe is the only way to win now. To acheive the greatest reward (Stanley Cup) who must be willing to accept a degree of risk. All those who are applauding Buffalo (including myself), there is zero guarantee that they will be a great team in 3-5 years. They have taken steps to improve their chances of building a franchise, but a prolonged losing record has considerable risks, especially when it seeps into the fabric of an organization.

    This is bold, this is different. I applaud our new direction. Cheers, CJ

    • GGtheHab says:

      nice post

    • JohninTruro says:

      CJ good points, but what message does it send if he doesn’t re-sign? Doesn’t it make it the opposite of what you’re saying? Sounds like a double edged sword.

      • CJ says:

        If he doesn’t resign and goes to Minnesota he will have done exactly what everyone thought he would do. The optics will not change. If he signed in Ottawa, or Calgary, or any other market, then eyebrows will be raised. A lot will depend on the deal. If he wants $8 million for 8 years, then I think our money is better served somewhere else. That said, if he produces through the balance of the regular season and is a point a game player in the playoffs, he will likely be able to write his own check. The UFA class is horribly thin and demand will exceed supply, especially with the cap rising.

        Personally, I don’t see value in looking that far ahead though. The only thing that matters is the game tonight, let alone what will happen in four months.

    • joeybarrie says:

      We gave up a second rounder for a chance to go deep in the playoffs.
      Vanek is someone we have needed for a long time now, and we have another 17 games to convince him he belongs in Montreal next season.
      However, should we continue to play like we are, adding Vanek and Weaver helps us defensively as well as offensively in scoring goals. Not to mention special teams.
      We can make the Conference finals as we can compete with every team in the East and arguably can beat everyone below us in the standings.
      Hot goalie, PK back to norm and Vanek and MaxPac scoring like they can……. We can make the Finals. Its that simple.
      If you can do it for a second rounder, why wouldn’t you?

      • CJ says:

        The stars could align, not denying that. We won’t be given anything though. We will need to earn it. There are still some major issues on this team. I do believe that the positives outweigh the negatives as dictated by our position in the standings, however, there are issues nonetheless.

        I have always thought that we will go so far as our goaltending will take us. Goaltending and the health of our team are the two biggest variables that I am currently unable to quantify or qualify. If Price is healthy and on his game, then the goaltending will take care of iteself.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Hate hearing that montreal isn’t a popular choice amongst players. I know the media and fans are all over this team, but why is montreal the most popular building to play a game then when polled by players across the league? I know there is good and bad parts about every city and montreal’s good and bad are magnified that much more. But if I’m an nhl player, I want to play in a hockey market that cares and is passionate, and with all my money I get the heck out of dodge in the off season and go where nobody know’s my name and just chill. That’s my take. I wish players were lining up to come here, and I think with MB, price, subban, marky etc that image hopefully changes.

      Shaker out!

      • johnnylarue says:

        To boil it down into cynical terms, I feel like NHL players nowadays are more interested in money than celebrity.

        And to an extent, Montreal, with its high taxes and hockey-mad populace, offers precisely the opposite.

        • CJ says:

          Good point Johnny.

          Hopefully nobody just finished their lunch, because the following will really make you sick….

          Boston is one of the more desirable locations in the league.

      • CJ says:

        Hi Jimmy. Good post. I love Montreal and if I had the talent (I don’t), dessire (I didn’t), athletisicm (aside from golf, I’m a clutz), and my youth (over the hill now), I would have loved to play in Montreal. That said, having travelled to a number of NHL cities, I really do love Phoenix.

        Davis Drewiski mentioned that even he was approached on the street and around town. This market is not like any other in North America.

        Not sure if anyone caught HBO 24/7 (Red Wings vs Leafs), but David Clarkson takes the subway to games at least once a week. Nobody notices him! He didn’t have a hat, glasses or anything. Can you imagine our new UFA being afforded the same privacy in Montreal? Not a chance!

        • jimmy shaker says:

          The bubble that is Montreal. I’m sadly missing all the points you listed as well, but we can always dream of owning the team, that would be even more fun I think! I hope as long as the majority of fans are respectful and keep their distance at the right time, and you work your arce off on the ice then Montreal should be the greatest place to play even if the team isn’t winning on and off the ice. I think the majority of fans are honest and appreciate hard work and effort even if the results aren’t there….That’s all we can ask for as fans. Maybe cheaper beer prices.

          Shaker out!

    • JUST ME says:

      When WJC said that all bets are off talking about Bergevin`s plan , i stopped taking him seriously. The big quality of this trade was it`s low cost and the fact that he gave very little that he does not already have skills wise.

      I have a tough time to agree with someone who is talking about things that will evolve in 5 or 6 years from now when we know that after 2 losses they would be willing to trade everyone…

      I am the first one to enjoy the fact that a G.M. has a plan that is based on building a strong farm system no matter what and am also the first one to pretend that players like Tinordi or Beaulieu should stay down there for two or three years for us and them to fully be ready to play up to their potential when they get to the NHL.

      That being said we have to appreciate that Bergevin gambled without going all in. He is showing that he is capable to take the necessary steps to win and move formard. This is exciting for the fans, exactly what we have been asking for and meanwhile the plan is still intact.

      • CJ says:

        Good post! I agree, Bergevin did take a calculated risk. I think the risk is mitigated because we still have five players who are in the same mold as Collberg (Thomas, Andrighetto, Hudon, Reway and Lethkeon). Although I think (my opinion) that Collberg could enjoy a better career then Connor Crisp, I would still rather give up Collberg because we simply don’t have many guys who are 6’3″, can hit, fight and score goals.

        Collberg might enjoy a full career in Brooklyn, but he might have not made the Canadiens. There are only so many spots and competition will be stiff. Again, we went against the grain. I, for one, am pleased with taking a chance.

    • johnnylarue says:


    • JF says:

      Excellent post. I fully agree.

  65. johnnylarue says:

    @wjc, re: Gomez/Vanek from the last thread.

    Sorry–I admit that was a knee-jerk reply (with emphasis on the ‘jerk’ part.) I think the first sentence of your post was too bold for my pre-coffee Saturday morning brain to handle.

    This trade was a rare example of Bergevin trading away an asset of any notable value for a rental, and the fact is there are now other forwards in the pipeline with similar profiles as Collberg (Andrighetto and Reway, off the top of my head) which make the young Swede expendable.

    At the time of the Gomez trade, it was widely agreed upon that just the fact of taking on his terrible contract should have been payment enough–but the fact that Gainey threw in a solid roster player in Higgins and a prospect like McDonagh (who admittedly was having Collberg-esque struggles at the time) made people scratch their heads.

    Ask the hockey world what they think of this Vanek trade and you’ll be hard-pressed to find anyone who doesn’t think it was an outright steal, whether he signs with the Habs in July or not. This is a player who, at the same time last season, would have commanded a 1st round pick and a blue chip prospect at the bare minimum.

    Simply put, even if Collberg plateaus as a 2nd line scoring winger in the NHL (as is his projected ceiling), this is a move Bergevin felt he could afford to do. All this talk of the future is fine, but the present matters too, and with Price playing the best hockey of his career–and a roster which has arguably been overachieving for two seasons now–the GM saw fit to give his players a reward for their efforts, and a huge vote of confidence going into the playoffs. There’s something to be said for the effect a move like that can have on a team’s morale at such a critical time of the season.

    To cite this as being possibly “the beginning of the end for Bergevin” is, at least to my eyes, being a touch melodramatic.

    • fastfreddy says:

      Vanek will only stay with us if a) MB gives him 7mil/7yrs and b) if the habs go deep in the playoffs with Vanek. My fears are Vanek walks.
      Hope I’m wrong.
      CH = Les Glorieux!!!

      • johnnylarue says:

        As of this writing I fully expect Vanek to walk, but I agree with you.

        In the unlikely event that the next few weeks reveal this to be a match made in heaven, I’d like to think both parties would try in earnest to make something work, even if a long $7 million/yr would introduce a significant hurdle to Bergevin’s long-term plan.

    • JUST ME says:

      I agree. I am sure it would have been a totally different scenario had we been talking about McCarron or Fucale. Those are assets that you need to keep because there are none like them in your system

  66. HabinBurlington says:

    Good news seeing Prust wearing a contact jersey and better news that Price joined the practise. Tonight we need a special game from Budaj and a solid team effort from the skaters. The game is winnable, let’s make it so! Engage!

    • Slackman says:

      I’m still not sure about practice and practise. One’s a verb and one’s a noun but I just don’t know which is which 🙁

      “When the going get’s weird, the weird turn pro”

    • johnnylarue says:

      If the team can put together the type of focused defensive play they exhibited for large portions of the Anaheim game, a rested Budaj stands a chance against the Sharks. A win would put them at a very respectable .500 on a devastating road trip, and I’m sure everyone involved realizes this.

      That said, if they’re even remotely sloppy tonight, they’re CHum. 😉

  67. Slackman says:

    I’d love to see Byfuglien on the habs.

    “When the going get’s weird, the weird turn pro”

  68. fastfreddy says:

    Still no sold that DD is getting top line minutes, I just don’t see him as a first line centerman.

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

    • B says:

      Plekanec leads Hab’s centers with 19:51 TOI/g
      Desharnais is 2nd among Hab’s centers with 16:53
      Eller is 3rd with 21 seconds per game less than Desharnais.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  69. GGtheHab says:

    wh ats the over/under on how long before wjc tells us on this thread how MB blew it with the Vanek deal? 30 mins…30 posts?

    • JohninTruro says:

      None of us know if he blew it or not. When you trade a prospect and a 2nd round pick it’s too early to tell. I said last week when it happened and I will say it again I am not a big fan of the trade and I have always really like Vanek. We do not have enough prospects that have enough talent in the AHL to get called up to start back filling. I was excited about Collberg and disappointed we gave up on him. I hope he isn’t scoring goals against us in an Isles uniform next year. If Vanek signs with us long term I like it, if he doesn’t I will not be pleased with this trade. Losing in the 1st or 3rd doesn’t make a difference if we don’t win the cup. MTL doesn’t need to go to the 3rd round to be profitable this year.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        It was a bold move by MB, I wasn’t expecting it and in fact i was hoping we would stand pat. I suspect with the asking price going down, MB thought perhaps with the cost lower the risk vs. reward became more pallatable.

        I too had high hopes for Collberg and still think it was too early to say he was a flop. If indeed we don’t re-sign Vanek, I am hopeful we will have had a successful playoff run which should help teach/show many of the younger players some valuable lessons.

        The trade is far from a slam dunk of success, but I think given previous trade deadline deals I am hopeful our losses can’t be as bad as the loss of he who shall not be named but plays defence in New York.

        • JohninTruro says:

          Kills me to give up on these young guys Burli, we have done such a good job the last 3 years of stock piling and working on bringing in home grown talent, young talent, into our system. Bulldogs got better this year over last, and were going to get better, and more exciting next year. We can all say what we want but we were all excited about Collberg, and I will be so bummed if/when Vanek walks away. We don’t have the team, or the scoring maturity, defensive maturity to win this this year, so that being the case a rental blows my mind.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I hear you, and as i said I was completely in that camp and was shocked we were in play for Vanek, never mind got him. I know MB appeared committed to the long patient build program. I will hope for the best, but completely understand your position, heck I completely understand wjc’s position (helps that I read it 18 times). Maybe MB had some good input from scouts etc… on something happening with Collberg which wasn’t positive, but I highly doubt that.

            My fear would be that MB made the move to appease fans, my hope is MB felt the team needed a move to help take this team to the next level in its development.

            Risk no doubt, and like all things HI/O, if we lose out early, I’m sure many whom today are praising MB, will indeed be calling for his head.

          • JohninTruro says:

            I definitely don’t want MB’s head, largely I like what he has done and not every shot is a goal so he won’t always get it right.

      • GGtheHab says:

        we are not winning the cup this year barring some miracles..but if we can get to the ECF it will be fantastic..because other than bragging rights over our bruin and leaf buddies what does all this matter?

        • JohninTruro says:

          GG exactly my point, and this is my beef with the trade. And as others have mentioned with Bergevin saying he wouldn’t get rid of our youth and prospects for these types of things when he got here. And as I said above I LOVE Vanek always have. Excited he is here, and I am very hopeful he signs with us, but most signs are pointing to that not happening. If we can go deep, maybe that leans him towards us though.

          • GGtheHab says:

            I think the development of Reway has as much to do with this as anything..anybody miss Pahlusaj, or others that have gone away? even Higgins? players change and as much as picks are nice, the cupboard has not been emptied…and 30 goal scorers dont grow on trees…this is about now..lets let July 1st take care of itself..

          • JohninTruro says:

            GG I get what you’re saying (and yes lots do miss Higgins) but you bring up examples of players some or most don’t miss, and not any we do. There always more we don’t miss and that’s why they’re “prospects” and not sure deals.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Shhhhhh, if we whisper maybe he won’t hear us talking here on the new thread.

      • wjc says:

        whisper all you want, I hear all. Seriously, hope Canadiens go deep and if they lose Vanek they sign someone else as good.

        If Collberg explodes or busts doesn’t matter now, because it is done and there is no going back. Makes the games interesting and the playoffs should be a blast.

        So many ways of looking at things and so many ways of being right or wrong. Get Price back and go for it all.


  70. jols says:

    Military personnel repelling from the ceiling to the ice was a great idea the first 100 times the NHL did it.

  71. Maritime Ronn says:

    16 forwards at practice.
    Nothing like a little internal competition to keep the boys honest

    • GGtheHab says:

      and some nice depth come playoff time..if everybody is healthy MT could beef up the line up or add some speed..depending on the need.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        It’s been a long time since the Habs have had NHL style depth

        • wjc says:

          Nice to see everyone pumped. Just remember that being a G.M. is not an exact science. Best intentions can blow up in your face, take it one game at a time and kick the snot out of Toronto and Boston.

          They will fear playing the Canadiens and will dread the thought of it. All they have to do is get Price fired up. All the bases are covered can’t be pushed around, got balanced scoring and a decent defense with more on the way.

          Enjoy the next 4 months it could be a long fun ride. Cheers!


    • HabinBurlington says:

      I am hopeful this is the best thing for players Eller and Bourque.

  72. Mike T says:

    Looking forward to seeing Price back with his golden confidence!

    Wish they would put Galchenyuk in Gionta’s place on the second unit.

  73. Slackman says:


    “When the going get’s weird, the weird turn pro”

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