Habs get day off Friday; Pateryn sent to Hamilton

After losing 4-1 to the Senators Thursday night in Ottawa, the Canadiens announced on Friday morning that defenceman Greg Pateryn was being assigned to the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs.

The 23-year-old has yet to dress for a game this season with the Canadiens. In six games with the Bulldogs, he had three goals and three assists. He was pointless in three games with the Canadiens last season.

The Canadiens suffered their fourth straight loss in Ottawa and have earned only one of a possible eight points during that span from a shootout loss to the St. Louis Blues. After Thursday’s action, the Canadiens were sitting in seventh place in the Eastern Conference standings with an 8-8-1 record.

Canadiens coach Michel Therrien said his team deserved a better fate against the Senators after outshooting Ottawa 34-24.

“I thought we dictated the game and got some great scoring chances but we couldn’t capitalize on it,” Therrien told reporters after the game. “I thought we deserved a better fate but that was a great team effort we saw tonight.”

The Canadiens were given the day off Friday. They will practise at 11 a.m. Saturday in Brossard in preparation for Sunday’s game against the New York Islanders at the Bell Centre (6 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

(Photo by Jean Levac/Ottawa Citizen)

Putting some perspective into Subban controversy, by Pat Hickey

Sens’ Lehner makes 33 saves in win, by Pat Hickey

Sens opportunistic as Habs lose fourth straight, by Pat Hickey

Habs vs. Senators photo gallery, montrealgazette.com

If you bet the over on P.K. Subban’s ice time you were a winner, Stu on Sports blog

Subban’s pride may be hurt most, SI.com

Senators Extra, Ottawa Citizen

The finish line for Habs, Canadiens.com

Taking stock one month into season, NHL.com

Current and former NHL players want fighting in the game, montrealgazette.com

Flyers’ Shero revolutionized coaching in NHL, montrealgazette.com

Panthers fire coach Dineen and assistants, NHL.com

826 Comments

  1. jols101 says:

    New thread.

  2. Maritime Ronn says:

    Once upon a time, the channeled spirits from my Crystal Ball prophesied the following:

    Maritime Ronn says: June 5, 2013 at 7:03 am.

    My $2 bet for next goalie coach is Sherbrooke Quebec born Stephane Waite currently the goalie coach with the Chicago Black Hawks.
    Waite has been in Chicago since 2004, and Bergevin knows him well from his 2005-2012 time there.

    Word out is that Waite did a good job with Niemi, and had a lot to do with a great rebound season by Corey Crawford.”
    ——
    The Hawks went on to win the Stanley Cup on June 24th and Crawford was outstanding and many believe he should have been the Conn Smythe winner.

    Waite was then hired by the Habs on July 4th – 30 days after the Crystal Ball prediction.

    Habs Result?
    Carey Price is now having a career year posting an NHL 6th best SP of .930 and Top Tier 2.22 GAA. ( Goalies that have played at least 60% of their team’s games)
    Has Price ever looked better?
    ——–
    The Crystal Ball channelled spirits have spoken again!

    They predict a Habs coaching change sometime in 2014.
    Leaves in full bloom, therefore Spring/Summer may be the time.

    The name advanced was not Patrick Roy or Guy Boucher or Claude Julien-Vigneault…but Andre Touringy.

    Not being totally familiar with that name, some research showed that he is now Patrick Roy’s right hand man in Colorado and a recognized D system and PK guru.

    Tourigny was also a coach during 3 years for Team Canada WJC and was a head coach in the “Q” for 10 years.

  3. Lafleurguy says:

    “We want them to be in a winning environment and be led by veteran players that really have strong leadership ability and have great work ethic,” Tallon said. “I’m not seeing that right now from our so-called better players.”

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      They soon better arrive at that place. My math shows them (Habs ) somewhere around 18th and 5-6 teams have a game and even two on them. Thise same teams are within 1-2 points of tying them based on the Habs next game or two. I’d suggest the Habs better turn it around real quickly or we are heading for a single digit draft selection. That’s not good i n my eyes because the team is not going to get better for a long time if we rely on finishing last or near the bottom to climb in the standings. However there is still a lot of hockey to be played and I hope and think they will do better soon.

  4. Un Canadien errant says:

    Claude Giroux just scored. There goes the slump. There goes the opportunity to trade for him with Josh Gorges and Davis Drewiske.

  5. adamkennelly says:

    worst call in the history of the world in the EDM – PHI game.

    match penalty for head contact called on some guy named Belov for a fully clean hit on Giroux where the primary contact was shoulder to upper arm, Giroux turned and avoided the rest of the contact – there was no contact to the head AT ALL..Giroux sold it..bounced up and played the next shift…he just scored too..

    freakin ref is going to be embarrassed when he see the replays…can’t wait to hear what Shanny has to say – I bet the “match” is rescinded – too bad the goal won’t be.

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      I may be alone in this, but I prefer calls being made that should not than the opposite if the outcome is to stop the madness that are head shots in hockey.

      Obliging the “injured” player to stay in the locker room for the remainder of the game and suspension after the fact for players faking it, might be an easy fix for abuse by the players.

    • The Jackal says:

      Better to err on the side of caution with headshots, specially with a guy that has already been concussed bad.

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      • adamkennelly says:

        complete non-sense…calling a penalty for a fantom headshot because the player has already been concussed – if he had been hit – too late anyways – so what does the penalty matter. bottom line – call was completely blown – should not have been a penalty let alone a match…

        obviously there was no head contact – since he played the next shift.

  6. The Jackal says:

    I just threw up a bit.
    I was looking at the NHL games for tonight and saw the laffs play the bears… and I thought to myself – “let’s go Bruins!” and I puked.
    I’m sorry – what is my punishment?

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  7. scotland says:

    heard a good question after gionta and pleks went in on a two on one the a couple of games ago?

    “has gionta EVER passed on a two on one”

  8. scotland says:

    “we are 3 for 8 since brierre was injured” lol…. maybe worse if he was not. ha! our record (winning percentage) will get worse as the season goes on. out of the gate all team are a bit scrambled and have not been “whipped into shape” so to speak. poorly coached teams with a lack of vetren leadership get worse as the other well coached teams with good vetren leadership bet better. good sign that the young guys on montreal are so good (gally,price,galcheyuck,pk,bornival,elar…bad sign that they are the best hockey players on the club. those young guys are suppose to compliment your vets….not carry them. because of this it will get uglier in habtown before it gets better……….i take solace in the fact that its an olympic year…………….cause the habs are gonna get embarassed this year…….

    mt: “de captain was crying in my arms after he found out his play off was finished”

    and as usual (like in pittsburg) mt will be front and center in the goofy press conferences throwing blame everywhere

  9. galchenyuk27 says:

    flyers currently winning and streit with 2 point game going although they are playing Edmonton.

  10. twilighthours says:

    Mark C, you’re all fired up today. Who urinated in your breakfast cereal?

    • Mark C says:

      I’m fired up? Ever seen the posts around here during/after a game.

      Look, just thought it was a joke that a poster would already be asking who to blame for something that hasn’t happened and might not. Is it too much to ask that we let people make mistakes before we blame them?

  11. Mavid says:

    Huh..Timmy the Tuna is a Florida Panther..I had no idea..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  12. Lafleurguy says:

    We haven’t played Boston, Detroit, or Pittsburgh yet. But we have played Ottawa and Toronto.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  13. The Jackal says:

    JF posted earlier about the Leafs’ success being sustainable because they have net presence.
    I feel the opposite, and I would argue that the Leafs DON’T have net presence.
    If you see most of the goals the Leafs score, it’s off a turn over and usually off the rush – these are very opportunistic goals that they have a knack for capitalizing on. But the better teams don’t give up such opportunities and make burying those chances much harder, and we can see this be the case when the Leafs lose, since they tend to score 0-2 goals and get rocked.

    Moreover, when the Leafs don’t get many of their chances, they fall apart quite fast and make more mistakes. They have a lot of firepower but they are ineffective when it comes to setting up a sustained forecheck, and that is what you need to actually have net presence. Driving towards the next off the rush is one thing, but how often do the Leafs get a cycle going with one guy actually in the crease? Exactly.

    Maybe the Leafs’s scorers are good at scoring off the rush or from opportunistic plays, and with their speed, as well as versus average teams, there will be enough turnovers to have these chances, despite being constantly out-played. But you can’t rely on your goalies to keep making 35 saves game in, game out. Your PK is not going to have perfect or good nights all the time, and sometimes you may not even see a PP in a game.

    The difference between the Leafs and Habs then, is not net presence, but the fact that the Leafs more natural goal scorers. Our goaltending and special teams also lead the league, yet we can’t score or set up a dangerous forecheck, so we fall short. The Leafs are actually worse off because they are worst at possession than we are, and over time, that gives us an edge. We’re not as big, nor do we have as many snipers (I wish we did), but the Leafs’ success is built on that rush, whereas we’ve been able to find scoring from more diverse sources. Our problem is not only net presence, which would help out, but the fact that we have a lot of passers but no finishers. Only Patches and Gally are true finishers, and even then, that’s just two players.

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    • dr. gesundheit says:

      Bottom line…we can try and sugar coat things as much as we want but the Leafs are further ahead in their rebuild than the Habs, (also have done a better rebuild job than the Habs) and consequently are a better team this year as was the case last year.

  14. habfaninottawa says:

    DD, Diaz & 2nd rd. for Giroux

  15. DipsyDoodler says:

    I don’t like Briere but the notion that if we could only unload him then … then what exactly?

    We’re 3-8 or something since he was injured.

    • johnnylarue says:

      I agree. So far the “addition-by-subtraction” principle doesn’t seem to be panning out with regards to Michael Ryder, as much as I hate to admit it. We gotta get those goals back from *somebody*…

      • B says:

        Ryder has .44 ppg this season with a -5
        Briere has .38 ppg this season with a +2
        on the unexpected bright side,
        Bournival has .57 ppg this season with a +6
        FWIW,Cole has .31 ppg this season with a -10

        –Go Habs Go!–

    • B says:

      There has been a lot of complaining here about Briere who has 1 goal, 2 assists and a +2 in his 8 games played this season. I haven’t noticed much complaining over Eller with 0 goals, 1 assist and a -5 in his last 12 games.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  16. Strummer says:

    Watching the English Premier League games this morning I noticed all the players had poppies on their jerseys.

    Nice touch!

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  17. DipsyDoodler says:

    While eating my lunch I was surfing around looking to see what was wrong with the Flyers. (I know, one should just accept these small gifts and move on.)

    Their vaunted centres Giroux, Lecavalier and Couturier? Vinny’s doing OK, but Couturier has no goals and 3 assists. And Giroux? No goals in 21 games!

    Mark Streit signed for $5.25 for another 4 years has no goals and is a minus 9. He has all of one assist at even strength.

    Time to swindle Paul Holmgrem maybe? He won’t be making his impulsive trades for much longer.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I was really surprised at the Flyers’ signing of Mark Streit this summer, he’s not really their ‘type’, and the amount and especially the term was shocking. Glad they don’t have any more amnesty buyouts left.

      And I used to like Vincent Lecavalier, but no longer obviously, and love the rollercoaster ride they’re on, the paroxysms from Ed Snider and the Philly fans. You like the organization, eh Vinny, you like that it’s a sports town? Well, enjoy.

    • Mark C says:

      Fartsmell has also fallen off a cliff, just scored his second goal, but that’s it two points in 12 games after all of 11 in 32 games last year. What a mess in Philly.

  18. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @UCe

    …agree with everything you said Norm

  19. DalEng says:

    Douglas the shootout specialist.

    http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=66&id=478149&lang=en&navid=DL|MTL|home

    his after goal celebration is hilarious.

  20. Eddie says:

    Who sits when Emelin returns?

    Murray, Bouillon, or Diaz?

    • piper says:

      Markov gets dealt to a contender for 1st rounder and a very good prospect.

    • savethepuck says:

      Based on TOI, PP time and PK time, I would be shocked if Diaz is ever a healthy scratch.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I hope Bouillon as an experiment, I expect it to be Murray.

    • Phil C says:

      I think he will replace Murray on the third pairing to limit his minutes, ease him back into game shape, and least for a handful of games. How he is playing will decide where he goes after that.

      I hope he ends up on the left side where ever he finally slots in.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Frankie B has little hockey left in him. I suspect we’ll see some sort of a platoon between him and Murray.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      They all should stand and shake his hand. Otherwise, it comes across as being rude.
      The guy’s been away for ages.

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      All of them.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I tend to think that Douglas Murray and Raphaël Diaz will be the third pair, and Francis Bouillon will be the #7 D, worked in for injuries, but I can also see Douglas Murray being rested on back-to-backs or against less pugnacious opponents, to keep Francis sharp and in the game. Also, if Raphaël doesn’t start to contribute offensively, he may get to sit too.

      Listening to the Bulldogs’ broadcast, if Magnus Nygren continues to improve at the rate he does right now, maybe he gets called up in the second half to boost our second-wave of the powerplay, and it’s curtain for the Raphaël era in Montréal. Mr. Nygren is a rightie, has a big slapshot and is appreciably bigger and stronger.

    • Habs4LifeInTO says:

      Diaz is the righty on the second wave of the PP. I have seen Bullion throw a few really well aimed hits in his own zone as of late (in his defence) and Murray is that heavy, crease clearing presence the Habs need in their own end. With all due respect to Frankie the Bull I’m thinking he sits and mostly because he is an older player now. He becomes the D depth at this point. My opinion..

      24 cups and counting….

  21. Ian Cobb says:

    The Hab’s will not lose tonight!!!

    Canadiens de Montréal
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  22. One question to Pleks, Gio, Bourque, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, and Eller

    You guys planning on picking corners tomorrow and the rest of the season or are we gonna try and make the playoffs with 2-1 victories and Carey Price saving the season for us?

    Start doing your job, and we won’t have to go through this crap again this season!

    1-2-2 is for the Devils, bag that crap and ship it south.

    See you at the next installment of AS THE HABS TURN

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  23. VancouverHab says:

    Bill: just got your clever “scratching your head” MB allusion from below.

    +1000.

  24. Propwash says:

    Everyone is in full blown panic mode?

    http://i.imgur.com/Vi8JI.gif

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  25. HabFab says:

    So has Bergevin made a good move yet?

    -Boullion
    -Parros
    -Briere
    -Murray
    -Drewiskie
    -Thomas
    - Desharnais

    These are all questionable.

    Prust was definitely a good move and I still believe the bridge contract for PK was, strictly due to the low cap for this season. Resigning Budaj was also good.

    • Eddie says:

      Prust was a great move.
      Budaj is fine.
      Subban’s bridge? We need to see him sign long term, then the bridge was a good move.

      All the rest? They all looked bad from day one, or in retrospect, have turned out badly, in my opinion.
      And don’t look now, but Kristo has 8 goals in his first 13 games. Oops!

      • Habfan10912 says:

        More bad then good but nothing that should hold us back from moving forward perhaps with the exception of DD.
        BTW- the guy who called me a joke this morning thinks Drewskie’s been fine. Now bout that, eh?

        • Mark C says:

          Do you have trouble reading?

          I didn’t call you a joke, just stated it was a joke that you are already looking for who to blame for something that has not yet happened, and may not happen ever.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            Your comment at worse was mean spirited and at best, rude. You want to behave that way don’t blame others for speaking out.
            Can I read is another classic. Feel better?

          • Mark C says:

            Not blaming you for speaking out, but to say I called you a joke is flat out wrong. Where did I call you a joke in my original reply below? I didn’t mean to be mean spirited or rude, I would like to apologize for that.

            “Already playing the blame game before anything actually happens. What a joke.”

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      They are all questionable I agree, but they are all (when you really think about it) unimportant in the grander scheme. None are like trading McDonough for Gomez.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Good point, as our rookie GM learns his job, perhaps the most important thing is that his worst mistakes don’t cripple the franchise as bad as that move did.

        He does need to make some smart decisions soon though as big contracts need to be signed and some trades probably need to be made.

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Full marks, Burl’, for sussing out MB’s Operation Sublime.
          You’re the Hercule Poirot of HIO.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Did you hear the one about the guy who had a mule named Hercule, and couldn’t go anywhere? He’d be on his cart, shaking the reins, yelling at it: “Avance, Hercule! Avance, Hercule!”

          • Lafleurguy says:

            I give up, what’s the answer?

            “May you live in interesting times.”

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            C’est un jeu de mot, a play on words. Hercule kind of sounds like ‘recule’ in French, especially in joual.

            reculer vi
            (aller en arrière) to move back
            reculer de quelques pas to take a few steps back
            Il a reculé pour la laisser entrer. He stepped back to let her in.

    • Thurston says:

      Bergevin’s best move is not listed, and that is sticking to his guns and building through the draft. He doesn’t trade away the future for short-term gain, and is committed to building his team’s foundation through the draft.
      He did not inherit a ready-made contender and there simply isn’t enough depth to make a splashy trade involving big names without sacrificing the future.
      It’s way too soon to judge Marc Bergevin.

    • ari says:

      he has to thank prust girl friend

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      What did they cost the Habs to sign in terms of other players or draft picks?

      Basically nothing (a 5th round pick in 2013 for Drewiske and a 7th next year for Parros)

      If you remember, the Habs had zero depth and all these signings did was address those issues.

      Cut Bergevin some slack and see how both trade deadline works out along with next summer.
      The guy has been GM for the Habs for 63 games + a playoff series no one thought the Habs would ever be in.

    • Mark C says:

      Boullion, Drewiskie, and Murray are fine, very minor moves.

    • Habilis says:

      I didn’t like the P.K. deal at the time, but as long as he signs him for 8 years this time around, I’m fine with it.

      DD, Briere and Thomas are all bad moves right now, I agree with that.

      But there are some good things too. You mentioned Prust and Budaj. I think that the Emelin deal is a good one. I also think that dumping Cole’s contract for Ryder and a pick last year was a decent move, although signing Briere somewhat negated that.

      There’s also the moves MB hasn’t made. He didn’t sign Lecavalier to a 4 year deal, which in retrospect, was a great move. He also hasn’t given away any high draft picks or blue chip prospects.

      He has a plan. I hope.

    • piper says:

      If he can find a way to unload Briere and Desharnais the rest can be forgiven.
      And Prust was a great move but he should have brought in some backup for him last year.

    • olematelot says:

      As has been mentioned, MB is committed to build through the draft. IMHO the moves he has made are just stop gap until some of the younger players are ready to move up to the show permanently. I think as difficult as it is for a lot of us, try to remain patient, better times are ahead.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      He has.

      -Hasn’t dealt away draft picks or prospects to gear up for a low-probability Cup run.

      -Sewn up Carey Price and Max Paccioretty to reasonable long-term deals.

      -Beefed up the Canadiens hockey operations staff and scouting staff.

      -Addressed the team’s lack of size and toughness by adding Brandon Prust, Douglas Murray and George Parros, all at very reasonable cost.

      -Whiffs like Colby Armstrong were low-risk deals that didn’t handcuff the team.

      Specifically:

      -Francis Boullion: good cheap signing of a veteran defenceman, can’t be faulted for his work ethic or production, given the cost and the role he should normally fill. Nothing wrong with the extension he was given last season, continuity and loyalty should be hallmarks of a successful organization.

      -George Parros: obviously a concern in terms of his on-ice play and the goals against. Not an anchor, he’s an expiring contract, acquired at a low cost. Has done the specific job he was brought in to do, which is to neuter the other teams’ heavyweight. Mr. Bergevin saw a need and addressed it, and can take another crack at it next season.

      -Danièl Briere: this one goes in the debit column for sure. I think he got caught up in the buyer’s frenzy for Vincent Lecavalier, and when that didn’t work out he over-valued Mr. Brière, think of it as the ‘beer goggles-last call’ phenomenon. I wish he’d never signed this player, wrong piece for our puzzle, but in the long view this isn’t catastrophic, just a missed opportunity.

      -Douglas Murray: another cheap piece brought in at no cost. Good for exactly what ails us. He’s still in training camp mode, will improve as the season continues, and his role diminishes with Alexei Emelin’s return. Still think he and Raphaël Diaz can make an effective third pairing.

      -Davis Drewiskie: a depth defenceman acquired at little cost. He’s signed at effectively the NHL’s minimum wage. He’s not a problem in any way, it’s just unfortunate he can’t practice and play and prove himself. (http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/10/davis-drewiske-has-shoulder-surgery.html)

      -Christian Thomas: a headscratcher. I’ll put this in the debit column, in that this trade did nothing at all for our organization, we traded four quarters for a buck. Danny Kristo should have been flipped for a piece that fits our club better. I’m not saying it’s easy or a better trade was out there, but ultimately Marc Bergevin will be judged on his production and record, and on this one he’s at best treading water.

      -David Desharnais: this one is hard to swallow, but I was happy with the deal when it was announced, so I have to take a bite of the sandwich too. I didn’t see his production and confidence cratering like it has this season. Another one in the debit column.

      Overall, it hasn’t all been a smooth ride, there have been potholes and a couple of flat tires, but there is definite progress and a clear direction, which wasn’t necessarily the case during the Gainey régime.

      Has Marc Bergevin made a good move yet? He’s made plenty.

  26. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Smid would’ve been a good fit, especially for what the Flames gave up. Stupid cap.

  27. Maritime Ronn says:

    A few Questions:

    With Emelin’s return next week, how will that affect the following:

    1) 5X5 Play Dman pairings.

    Right now for Top 4, it’s PK/Markov – Gorges/Diaz.
    Before Emelin was hurt last year, he was playing Top 4 Even Strength minutes along with Markov-Subban-Gorges.

    Both Emelin and Gorges can play the Right side (they shoot left) while Subban/Diaz are Right, and Markov is Left.

    Who of Gorges/Diaz moves to the Bottom pair?
    Then, which 3rd pair Dman moves to the press box remembering Specialty Teams make-up?

    2) Penalty Kill

    This year’s PK has been very good ( Price much responsible) using Gorges-Dias-Markov and now Murray as Top 4 ave. minutes per game PK.
    Any change there and if so, what?

  28. JM says:

    If Habs fans are willing to wait at least 20 + more years to win a cup than as management said the team is moving in the right direction ….

  29. HabFab says:

    Dave Stubbs –

    Sigh… I miss good old days of #Habs José Theodore vs Jeff Hackett goalie controversy

  30. frontenac1 says:

    Hola HIO Tech Guys! Mobile Site still pooched. Saludos!

  31. HabFab says:

    In the Four Nations U20 tournament taking place in Russia.
    Collberg and de le Rose each with an assist for Sweden while Lekhonen had a goal for the Finns in today’s play.

  32. HabFab says:

    Funny thing about Bergevin getting some hate;

    - fans wanted a francophone star… got Briere
    - fans wanted a fighter… got Parros
    - fans wanted a MOAR defenseman… got Murray

    WTF do fans know?

  33. JM says:

    I still say we have decent defence and Goaltending. Lacking a couple of steady scores up front. If we could improve there this team could at least be a playoff contender. Stay as we are it’s gonna be a up and down season for the remaining games. It’s sad for the fans but I’m afraid that’s what we are facing ….

    Bergevins two mistakes by signing Briere and Desharnais is not helping any. Call ups from Hamilton has not helped. some of them have not proven they are NHL Caliber. A trade may help who knows.
    maybe some of you may have answers. I don’t know anymore!!

    • B says:

      Habs are a top 5 team in GA/G. They have somehow managed this with, according to many here, a goalie who is too inconsistent, defence that is too weak, forwards who get pushed around and dominated too easily and clueless coaching.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  34. hamiltonbulldogs says:

    What organization would put their star Norris winning player through the crap he is being put through under Montreal coaching staff and management???? PK will make them pay or worse – leave … Hey didn’t Out coach do the similar thing in Pittsburgh … Yup – then he got fired and they won the cup … Hmmmmmmmm???

  35. hamiltonbulldogs says:

    I am a loyal Habs fan but man are they turning into a joke!

  36. commandant says:

    My first look at thinking about Canada’s World Junior Roster.
    Starting with the Goalies and Defencemen (includes 1 Hab)

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/11/09/an-early-look-at-the-world-juniors-team-canada-goalies-and-defence/

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

  37. boing007 says:

    ‘… Rob Ford will be out of the detox center, rehabbed, and ready to run for Prime Minister,
    Great, another Crack Pot Prime Minister.

    Richard R

  38. wjc says:

    Seems like the panic is in full bloom:

    Begevin is being accused of not doing a good job.

    Is it true?

    Added toughness in Parros, and Murray.
    Bought some time to develop players with the Brier signing.
    Desharnais slow start has many wringing their hands.

    It can be assumed that Desharnais will get going with the right line mates.
    Brier has hardly had a chance to adapt to a new team and line mates.

    Those expecting the Canadiens to get bigger this fast were not be realistic.

    As far as Therien goes, do you think that other teams are all ‘star dust and roses’ behind the scenes. Bowman used to rip players as did Burns. Coaches have a tough job and keep players focused and accountable is not a job for the weak.

    Think of Boston, Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, the list goes on, do these coaches look like shrinking violets. What would many camera’s reveal about the nasty behind the scenes action.

    Well paid, pampered athletes, saying all the right things to the public and indulging in ‘locker talk’ that would shock your poor little granny.

    Vulgar talk that would shock your virgin ears. Ever played on a team, anywhere from pee wee’s up and heard the talk when the adults were not around. Even in the high school gym class. It can get pretty blue and hilarious sometimes……boys will be boys.

    People have hated Martin, Carboneau, Gainey, Gautier and many more. Some just evenutually hate everybody and everything. The cup may never happen, you can only try your best. This is not the 60′s and 70′s anymore. There are 30 teams competing with most failing according to the standards on here.

    wjc

  39. boing007 says:

    ‘Moen continues to collect pay cheque’.
    Tells reporters ‘this is better than Welfare’.

    Richard R

    • commandant says:

      I would have thought that after seeing the fourth line without Travis Moen, Habs fans would finally recognize the value of the guy.

      Guess I was wrong.

      Moen isn’t flashy but his role killing penalties, and making sure our fourth line can eat minutes without being a liability is important.

      Go Habs Go!
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  40. WhatUp says:

    RE: trades being difficult in this day and age: couldn’t agree more. having said this there may be an opportunity for a biggish shake with say the Flyers and/or Panther as they seem desperate. perhaps even the Jets/Oils/Jackets

    if MB wanted to have something significant it would cost us (gotta give to get).

    would folks be OK with say (as a starting point) the likes of:

    Eller vs E Kane
    Hartnell and Simmonds vs Pax or Gallagher and Bourque and Beaulieu

    I think these are the trades that could happen and would change the complexion of the team but they would also come at cost….we would get something but lose something and definitely change the complexion
    just food for thought

  41. boing007 says:

    I don’t give MB any slack. He didn’t arrive here faced with a blank slate and he has continued to follow the same pattern of his predecessors. All the smallish forwards that were drafted last summer shows that he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    Richard R

  42. Maritime Ronn says:

    There appears to be much concern in the media and Habsland about the mini 4 game slump.

    There should not be for a few reasons:

    1) The Habs themselves appear to be loose and having some fun evidenced by this pick from a dinner party at a local restaurant last night including PK, Carey, Moen, Bourque, White…

    http://cdn.25stanley.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Screen-shot-2013-11-08-at-11.00.59-PM.png

    2)
    Looking back at the last 82 game, Ottawa secured the 8th spot in the East with 92 points.
    So what did their season look like?

    The Sens started the year 1-5-0.
    To begin November, they went 0-4-1.
    To begin December, they went 1-3-2.
    From January 21 to February 7, they went 0-6-1.
    To begin March, they went 3-5-2 including losing 3 games in a row outright.
    To finish the season, they lost 3 in a row.

    At one point, their record was 7-9-1, then improved to 14-14-4 after 32 games.

    87 points – meaning only 5 points over .500 hockey, may be enough for 8th place this year.

  43. HabinBurlington says:

    As a follow-up to MB’s Operation Sublime, his theory was nearly exposed by a huge contract signing which he did incorrectly. This signing was immediately red flagged as it caused a virtual meltdown here at HI/O. In fact so obvious was MB’s plan exposed by this signing, that our leading Insiders were immediately calling this signing a brutal mistake. Timo himself was the first to recognize the foolishness of this signing and so MB immediately had to rectify his mistake. His action had to be swift but methodical. So, once training camp began, he went back to his old stomping grounds The Point and found some old friends who were contracted to help.

    As soon as camp began, this player was immediately hurt and wouldn’t be heard from for a long time. Thus MB had covered up what would have surely exposed his operation.

    Mr. Drewiskie never had a chance…..

  44. Max_a_million says:

    I think 24 ch could be good development tool for Therrien to keep himself in check.

  45. Ton says:

    Good read! In some ways that was the start of the the decline> Chelly for Savard! ………Molson dismantling the team, Roy, etc!

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/chelios-could-play-all-night/article15366690/

  46. Mattyleg says:

    Morning!
    I saw a comment about Markov’s goal the other night, and a wish that we had Morrow to do that more often.

    We don’t need Morrow for that; we should be seeing Chucky, Eller, Max, driving to the net with the puck, with Gally batting in the rebound.

    Why is Markov doing it?? Why aren’t our big guys pushing to the net like that?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  47. jeffhabfan says:

    I think we have to make a trade for more size. It hurts us almost every night being to small. Also a WIN tomorow night is a must.

    • icemachine says:

      Really wish they hadn’t traded away Cole.

      I’m hoping Connor Crisp can make a big jump this year, otherwise we really lost on the Erik Cole trade

      • monmick says:

        Sometimes I wonder whether the trade to solve the DD issue would be to bring Cole back?

        ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

      • Mark C says:

        Habs won the Cole trade hands down. He has 1 goal and 5 points while being minus 10 in 16 games this year. The trade was a clear win, the investment of Cole’s money can however be questioned.

  48. The Dude says:

    Nothing has made me happier than the Fact Rob Ford and his nation are Conservatives whom are a well known bunch for rolling out the Tax payers dough for Corporate Welfare scams too they’re best friends whilst doing a traditional BLAME TO POOR policy to hide their corruption … Puff away Mayor Tea Bagger, puff away!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Thankfully, it sounds like the Liberal mindset which you clearly support, are such a forgiving and mankind loving group. ;-)

    • boing007 says:

      Amusing. That’s how they get votes. Cater to the Don Cherry crowd while they live and behave like decadent rock stars. Berlusconi comes to mind. Among others.

      Richard R

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Yeah that has a lot to do with hockey. “Blame To Poor”? Drinking and typing is dangerous. So … wait … you like The Dude and hate Rob Ford? Think about that for a minute. At least Ford has a job besides drug usage and bowling. And please quit with the homophobia while you’re at it.

      There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

    • adamhabsalex says:

      I’m pretty sure that Mr. McGuinty wasted a fair bit of money on the e-Health and gas plant scandals. Liberal leaders have never wasted money. wow …

  49. Hobie Hansen says:

    I think Bergevin would like to make a trade if he could but it’s tough to do. Tough to make a trade for a power forward, nobody gives them up, and it’s tough to work within the cap.

    If the Habs are out of contention around the trade deadline you’d have to consider trading Markov, Gionta, Diaz and even other players under contact past this year.

    I do think when Prust is back and the 3rd and 4th lines are solidified, plus the return of Emelin who will have the same impact on defence, the Habs are a playoff team. So Bergevin will be in a tough spot if he wants to acquire draft picks for his UFAs. It will be tough to trade away players if you’re in the playoff hunt.

    It would be nice to end up with an additional 1st rounder and a bunch of picks next year if we miss the playoffs this season. At that point your draft the most talented forward you can find (regardless of size) and another beast like McCarron.

  50. pmaraw says:

    got 2 tickets to the knights game this past thursday, brought my son. oh man does McCarron ever look enormous! had my habs jersey on, 2nd row, he totally saw it :D but I think he got benched for the 3rd after being a key contributor to the game tying goal against the 1st place team in the league.

  51. HabinBurlington says:

    So I wrote an email to some fellow Habs fans in which I discussed the possibility that MB indeed is a genious in that he is pulling off what could be called the Subliminal Tank Theory.

    The strike shortened season produce a very surprising 2nd in the East finish. The team was decimated by injury late, but also I feel suffered a fate which was inevitable based on the lack of certain types of players.

    MB may have recognized that the team indeed is not and was not ready for the next level, but he is guiding a storied team in a market which does not like to accept failure, so what was he to do?

    He knew he needed one more Tank season, but it had to be well disguised, thus the Subliminal Tank began.

    Sign Daniel Briere to pacify an element of the fans and media yearning for a local home boy to cheer on. – Check
    Sign George Parros to pacify an element of the fans and media yearning for a rugged tough guy to handle Boston and T.O. – Check
    Sign Douglas Murray to pacify an element of the fans and media yearning for MOAR. – Check
    Keep a coach in place whose role is to develop the young talent while ensuring his tactics won’t produce another top finish in the standings – Check

    When this season approaches the trade deadline, if indeed as according to plan, the team isn’t looking like a playoff contender. The final touches on the tank can be completed, the trading of a combination of veterans, perhaps Gionta or Plex or Gorges or Bourque etc…..

    Voila, the subliminal tank is complete, the next season begins with Beaulieu and Tinordi ready to take reg. spots and a new coach to take this team to the next level.


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