Habs Future


Robert Rice (SeriousFan09) offers his weekly look at Canadiens prospects.


1. C Louis Leblanc has begun his QMJHL playoff campaign in style with the Montreal Juniors by scoring three goals in his first two games. Leblanc scored what became the eventual game-winning goal in a 5-3 victory over the Halifax Mooseheads on Thursday night in the opening game of the playoff series, giving the Juniors a 1-0 series lead. Leblanc furthered his exploits on Friday as he ignited the Juniors power play, which went punchless on Thursday by adding two power play markers in a 6-0 shutout of the Mooseheads, allowing the Juniors to take a 2-0 series lead. Louis Leblanc was drafted in the first round, 18th overall in the 2009 Entry Draft.

2. RW Danny Kristo has maintained consistency since his return to the lineup for North Dakota as the team is on their quest for an 8th National Title in NCAA hockey. Kristo added a goal and two assists to build to a four-game points streak since returning fromn injury, which includes him reaching the 20-assist total for a 2nd consecutive season. Kristo scored a goal and assist in a 6-0 whitewash of the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, than assisted on a goal in North Dakota’s 6-1 win over University of Denver. North Dakota is now set to play in the “Frozen Four” semifinals for the National Title against the University of Michigan, where he’ll be challenged by Canadiens defensive prospects Greg Pateryn and Mac Bennett. Danny Kristo was drafted in the 2nd round, 56th overall in the 2008 Entry Draft.

3. C Michaël Bournival returned from dealing with a lower-body injury to resume leadership of the Shawinigan Catractes in time for the QMJHL playoffs this week with a point per game pace. Bournival’s prescence for his team was crucial in the opening game as the Cataractes faced off against PEI Rocket where he scored the overtime winning goal to put his team up 1-0 in the series. Bournival picked up a single assist as he tried to help trigger a late-game comeback in the second game of the series, but a final score of 4-2 ended that hope as the series became tied at 1-1. Bournival’s prescence will likely be key to the hopes of Shawinigan winning their series. Michaël Bournival was drafted in the 3rd round, 71st overall in the 2010 Entry Draft by Colorado and was acquired by the Canadiens in exchange for Ryan O’Byrne.

Worthy Mentions: C Andreas Engqvist added a goal and assist to his scoring totals this week. RW Brendan Gallagher was named to the First All-Star Team in the WHL. D Greg Pateryn assisted on a double-overtime goal that allowed his University of Michigan team to advance past the first bracket in the NCAA National Tournament.

Question Marks: RW Alexander Avtsin has only one point in his last 15 games, an automatic goal from a penalty shot call on an empty-net opportunity. LW Andrew Conboy was suspended two games for his game misconducts including abuse of officials on March 13th. C Gabriel Dumont has been suspended for 10 games by the AHL for a boarding violation, his check fractured the vertebrae of the player he hit. G Karri Ramo’s season is over in the KHL, his team was shut out in a Game 7 loss. C Dustin Walsh’s season is over in NCAA hockey as his team did not qualify for the National Tournament.

Complete Statistics for the week of March 21st:
Legend: Skaters: Games Played, Goals, Assists, +/-, Penalty Minutes
 | Goalies: Wins, Losses, Overtime Losses, Shootout Losses, Goals Against Average, Save Percentage | 
Teams: Wins, Losses, Overtime Losses, Shootout Losses, Ties (for NCAA teams only)
 | Season Stats: Season scoring prior to the past week.

The AHL Report: The Hamilton Bulldogs have been the AHL affiliate of the Montreal Canadiens since 2002. It is the most common route for developing Montreal Canadiens prospects into full-time members of the organization. There are currently 12 members of the Hamilton Bulldogs that can be considered NHL-viable prospects, four of which, David Desharnais, Max Pacioretty, Yannick Weber and Ryan White have been called up to Montreal. The Hamilton Bulldogs have a record of 37-26-2-7, are 3rd in the North Division, 7th in the Western Conference, 15th overall in the AHL.
RW Alexander Avtsin: 20 years old, 6’3″, 199 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 51GP, 5G, 13A, +3, 22 PIM
Weekly Stats: 3GP, 0G, 0A, -2, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 54GP, 5G, 13A, +1, 22 PIM

D Mathieu Carle: 23 years old, 6′, 203 pounds, RH shot. Alternate Captain

Season Stats: 61GP, 10G, 15A, +14, 36 PIM

Weekly Stats: 3GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 64GP, 10G, 15A, +14, 38 PIM

LW Andrew Conboy: 22 years old, 6’4”, 192 pounds, LH shot.
Season Stats: 55GP, 12G, 10A, +4, 107 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 5 PIM | Complete Stats: 56GP, 12G, 10A, +4, 112 PIM

C Gabriel Dumont: 20 years old, 5’10”, 180 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 60GP, 5G, 13A, -5, 79 PIM
Weekly Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 60GP, 5G, 13A, -5, 79 PIM
C Andreas Engqvist: 23 years old, 6’4″, 191 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 62GP, 8G, 13A, +8, 16 PIM
Weekly Stats: 3GP, 1G, 1A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 65GP, 9G, 14A, +8, 16 PIM

G Robert Mayer: 22 years old, 6’1″, 209 pounds, catches left.

Season Stats: 21GP, 9-10-1-1, 3.06 GAA, .890%
Weekly Stats: 0GP, 0-0-0-0, GAA,  .% | Complete Stats: 21GP, 9-10-1-1, 3.06 GAA, .890%

D Brendon Nash: 23 years old, 6’3″, 218 pounds, LH shot.

Season Stats: 64GP, 5G, 22A, +14, 47 PIM

Weekly Stats: 3GP, 0G, 1A, 0, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 67GP, 5G, 23A, +14, 49 PIM

RW Aaron Palushaj: 22 years old, 6′, 183 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 57GP, 17G, 27A, +15, 28 PIM

Weekly Stats: 3GP, 0G, 1A, -1, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 60GP, 17G, 28A, +14, 30 PIM

Called up to Montreal:

C David Desharnais: 24 years old, 5’6″, 177 pounds, LH shot. Alternate Captain
Season Stats: 35GP, 10G, 35A, +14, 24 PIM

LW Max Pacioretty: 22 years old, 6’2″, 210 pounds, LH shot.

Season Stats: 27GP, 17G, 14A, +4, 20 PIM

D Yannick Weber: 22 years old, 5’11”, 196 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 15GP, 8G, 4A, -5, 10 PIM

C Ryan White: 22 years old, 6′, 198 pounds, RH shot. Alternate Captain

Season Stats: 33GP, 3G, 9A, -5, 77 PIM

The Juniors Report: The Canadiens currently feature prospects playing in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) and the Western Hockey League (WHL). These leagues can be considered the primary conduit towards professional hockey in North America.


C Michaël Bournival: 18 years old, 6’, 190 pounds, LH shot.
Junior Club: Shawinigan Cataractes – Team Captain (42W, 23L, 2OTL, 1 SOL) (1-0 Playoff Record)

Season Stats: 56GP, 28G, 36A, +4, 28 PIM
Playoff Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM
Weekly Stats 2GP, 1G, 1A, -1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 2GP, 1G, 1A, -1, 0 PIM

D Morgan Ellis: 18 years old, 6’2″, 196 pounds, RH shot

Junior Club: Cape Breton Screaming Eagles – Team Captain (18W, 45L, 1 OTL, 4 SOL) (0-1 Playoff Record)

Season Stats: 65GP, 8G, 28A, -27 65 PIM
Playoff Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM
Weekly Stats 2GP, 0G, 0A, -2, 6 PIM | Complete Stats: 2GP, 0G, 0A, -2, 6 PIM

C Louis Leblanc: 20 years old, 6’1″, 184 pounds, RH shot.

Junior Club: Montreal Juniors – Alternate Captain. (46W, 12L, 5 OTL, 5 SOL) (2-0 Playoff Record)

Season Stats: 51GP, 26G, 32A, +21, 98 PIM
Playoff Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM
Weekly Stats 2GP, 3G, 0A, +1, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 2GP, 3G, 0A, +1, 2 PIM
LW Phillippe Lefebvre: 20 years old, 6′, 200 pounds, LH shot.

Junior Club: Montreal Juniors (46W, 12L, 5OTL, 5 SOL) (2-0 Playoff Record)

Season Stats: 60GP, 19G, 27A, +26, 38 PIM
Playoff Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM
Weekly Stats 2GP, 1G, 1A, +3, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 2GP, 1G, 1A, +3, 0 PIM


D Jarred Tinordi: 19 years old, 6’7″, 212 pounds, LH shot.

Junior Club: London Knights (34W, 29L, 4 OTL, 1 SOL) (0-1 Playoff Record)
Season Stats: 63GP, 1G, 13A, -8, 140 PIM

Playoff Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 0A, -1, 8 PIM | Complete Stats: 1GP, 0G, 0A, -1, 8 PIM


RW Brendan Gallagher: 18 years old, 5’8″, 170 pounds, RH shot.

Junior Club: Vancouver Giants – Alternate Captain (35W, 32L, 1 OTL, 4 SOL) (0-1 Playoff Record)

Season Stats: 66GP, 44G, 47A, +29, 108 PIM
Playoff Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM
Weekly Stats 2GP, 1G, 0A, 0, 4 PIM | Complete Stats: 2GP, 1G, 0A, 0, 4 PIM
US College Hockey (NCAA) Report: The Canadiens have drafted a number of college players in recent years, these are generally ‘project players’ who benefit from additional years in lower level hockey to develop their skills.
D Mac Bennett: 19 years old, 6′, 180 pounds, LH shot.

NCAA Team: University of Michigan Wolverines (28W, 10L, 4T)

Season Stats: 28GP, 2G, 10A, +13, 17 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 29GP, 2G, 10A, +13, 17 PIM

RW Danny Kristo: 20 years old, 6′, 188 pounds, RH shot.

NCAA Team: University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux (32W, 8L, 3T)

Season Stats: 31GP, 7G, 18A, +5, 16 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 1G, 2A, +2, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 33GP, 8G, 20A, +7, 18 PIM

D Greg Pateryn: 21 years old, 6’3”, 222 pounds. RH shot.

NCAA Team: University of Michigan Wolverines (28W, 10L, 4T)
Season Stats: 36GP, 3G, 12A, +11, 26 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 1A, +2, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 37GP, 3G, 13A, +13, 28 PIM

C Dustin Walsh: 20 years old, 6’3”, 190 pounds, LH shot.

NCAA Team: Dartmouth College Big Green (19W, 12L, 3T)

Season Stats: 34GP, 10G, 10A, +2, 8 PIM

Kontinental Hockey League (KHL) Report: The Kontinental Hockey League is the professional hockey league of Russia, many Russian players first play professionally there before joining the NHL. Due to a lack of a player transfer agreement between the NHL and the KHL it can be very difficult for NHL clubs to bring over their drafted Russian prospects.
G Karri Ramo: 24 years old, 6’3″, 207 pounds, catches left.

KHL Club: Avangard Omsk (42W, 9L, 1 OTL, 2 SOL) (7-7 Playoff record)

Season Stats: 44GP, 33-6-2-1, 1.78GAA, .930%
Playoff Stats: 13GP, 6-4-2, 2.24GAA, .914%
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0-1-0, 1.00GAA, .947% | Complete Stats: 14GP, 6-4-2, 2.16GAA, .914%
RW Maxim Trunev: 20 years old, 5’11”, 189 pounds, RH shot.

KHL Club: Severstal Cherepovets (30W, 20L, 4 OTL, O SOL) (2-4 Playoff record)
Season Stats: 39GP, 1G, 6A, +3, 20 PIM
Playoff Stats: 6GP, 0G, 0A, -3, 2 PIM

D Alexei Yemelin: 24 years old, 6’1”, 221 pounds, LH shot.

KHL Club: Ak Bars Kazan (34W, 12L, 3OTL, 4 SOL) (5-4 Playoff record)
Season Stats: 51GP, 11G, 15A, +16, 117 PIM
Playoff Stats: 9GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 4 PIM


  1. W35T5ID3 says:

    dear scott gomez:you suck.

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  3. petefleet says:

    I think I’m going to switch info sites. I have watch the steady deline of HIO and can’t take it anymore. The gentlemen who contribute the info are doing a great job but the posters are getting ridiculous. This thread is a good case in point. Post after post of nothing to do with the Habs. HIO should censor useless banter. Make posters stick to talk about the hockey team.

    ***Habs Forever***

  4. Mattyleg says:

    About the thumbs thing…
    Sometimes I thumb people down to be a jerk.
    Sometimes I do it because it makes me laugh.
    Sometimes I thumb people up because I like them.
    Most times I don’t care about thumbs.
    It’s the ultimate passive comment.
    Like LOL. It doesn’t mean that you’re actually laughing.
    It’s just a politeness thing. So it means nothing.
    Like Twitter. “Eatin’ some pork chops and potatoes with my family. Going to do some abs later.” It means nothing.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Clay says:

      I would thumbs up this post, but it would defeat the purpose 🙂

      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  5. habs001 says:

    i think gomez will be kept for next year and a decision on him will only be made at the end of 2011-2012…eller will be a good player but he is at least 2-3 years away from being a number 2 centre…eller may only be a 15-18 type scorer so may have to play with forwards that can put the puck in the net

  6. HardHabits says:

    In response to JIMVINNY’s idea to hide posts that receive 10 negative votes. I am against it because on one hand it would amount to censorship and on the other it would amount to bullying and/or a popularity contest.

    How about this suggestion then. Have a combination of something like they have on YouTube and TSN. Give readers the choice to select comments by:

    1) Newest
    2) Oldest
    3) Most positive votes
    4) Most negative votes

    This way people can select what they want to read.

    The YouTube angle would be to have one or two posts with the highest amount of positive votes appear at the top of the page above the other comments.

    These are just ideas. You see JV. Let’s say people disagreed with your idea in numbers as I have stated that I disagree with it then your post would have been buried. Instead I am offering an intelligent rebuttal, one that no doubt will still elicit numerous reflexive negative votes simply because it’s your friendly neighborhood HH who is making it, but it is one that you can see takes into account that even though I can be bombastic and provocative at times I am nevertheless respectful of other’s ideas and opinions.

    Thumb away commentariat.

    • JIMVINNY says:

      The first time I posted the idea, it was at 40 positive votes when I stopped paying attention. So no, it wouldn’t have been buried. And I wasn’t advocating for the number to be 10 negative votes, that was just something I threw out there. Also, I should clarify; Maybe a certain number of negative votes isn’t the right idea, but rather the combined rating of positive votes versus negative votes. As for your idea, it’s not bad, but I like mine better.

      Regarding your statement that you are respectful of others ideas and opinions, I really wish that were the case. You clearly are an intelligent and articulate writer, but when you get emotional, more often than not you aren’t respectful at all.

      • HardHabits says:

        I completely disagree with your idea, and my idea isn’t my idea. It already exists for a reason. Probably for the reason why I disagree with yours.

        Like I said having posts buried or hidden because they have negative votes would simply make this place a popularity contest and having that happen would be akin to censorship and bullying. I am sorry you don’t see it that way.

        The fact that as many people agree with it only proves my points (EDIT: there are 40 ayes and 28 nays which gives me hope and also proves that your idea is not that popular). I guess people don’t really want to exchange ideas here but would rather come here for some comfort when their team is down are hear more preaching to the choir when all is well in Habs-land.

        It’s quite disturbing really to think that people would latch onto such an idea but it does’t surprise me one bit given human nature.

        To be honest I find your idea to be very offensive. Way more offensive then some of the BS I write sometimes, which is intentionally provocative. You’re idea to me is scary and IMO opinion would render this site more saccharine then it already is.

        That being said, chances are it’ll be adopted as dissent and critical thinking are to be frowned upon and blind adherence and cheer-leading is to be commended.

        Like I said before, It is akin to having negative comments erased at the Rebecca Black Ark Factory web site. It is censorship. Look below for some comments below your original post. People call it communism and totalitarianism for a reason JV.

        • JIMVINNY says:

          Well if that’s your position, here’s some food for thought; it’s not my idea, either. That system is used to great success on the Yahoo sports blogs, and several technology sites use similar systems as well. Only rarely do posts get hidden behind the “click here” wall, and when they do, and I bother to read them, there’s generally good reason for them to be there; It’s usually only extremely offensive behavior that gets someone sent behind the wall, and I don’t see the system being abused at all. And this is on sites where there are multiple different viewpoints. At least here, we all cheer for the Habs.

          I think that most people here are mature enough to not abuse the system, and those that aren’t would quickly lose interest and abandon the pursuit.

          And please, stop with the sheep references and stop martyring yourself. There’s nothing wrong with dissent and critical thinking, when it’s presented in the proper manner. That’s where you fail miserably, and face public ire because of it.

          Also, there are also several posts below mine agreeing with the idea. You can’t just highlight the ones that support your argument, and ignore the rest. That goes completely against everything you’ve been shouting from your soap box.

          • Mattyleg says:

            I haven’t really followed this whole debate, but cutting people off or deleting (or blanking out) posts because of number of thumbs is a dumb idea.

            I click thumbs randomly sometimes. People who have no idea about hockey could come on here and click the red thumb and delete good posts.

            Hell, trolls from other teams could make a number of ‘members’ and delete every post on the board!

            This is all about freedom of expression, and the mods do a decent job at weeding out the imbeciles. I think about what this site looked like a couple of years ago, and shudder.

            The thumbs thing is just a gauge. Nothing else. And it’s pretty random, at that.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Clay says:

      I have an even better idea – get rid of the thumbs up and down altogether. Make this a place for intelligent discourse instead of a pep rally.

      The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  7. CHsam says:

    Buying out Gomez ? I don’t know how Molson would even think of approving that. Seems like a LOTTA money.

    • JasonM says:

      They could afford half a billion dollars to buy the team, 20 million is a weekend’s profit. I’m sure they can light up their cigars with real matches instead of 100$ bills for a few days.

  8. HardHabits says:

    I posted this below with regards to comments made by LA loyalist and Berkie concerning why my comments receive so many thumbs downs.
    I see it as a compliment. If these thumb downers had any balls they’d debate me.

    Thanks LAL for sticking up for me, especially considering we’ve been on opposite sides of issues many a time.

    Thank you too AB but I am not reactionary. That is akin to being ultraconservative. I am in fact the opposite of reactionary. I am provocative and radical. I constantly promote change and embrace it.

    • christophor says:

      This is worse drama than daytime TV.
      About hockey…

      • ZepFan2 says:

        On that note…

        How much drugs did Charlie Sheen do?

        Enough to kill two and a half men.

        Winning! 😎

        Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Head-shots League.

    • fbkj says:


      ive debated you and you were stunned

      with nothing to say

      see it as a compliment? thats another story that i agree with, but settle down

    • When I said reactionary, I wasn’t using the political definition. What I was saying is that your opinions are far too often formed in reaction to a small sample size of games and changes rapidly and without warning. Obviously you’re a smart guy, but you’re all over the place depending on wins and losses, especially bad losses. If you were a tad more grounded you probably wouldn’t get as many thumbs down, but not everyone is going to debate you either way. That’s just my thoughts, not sure why you already have 7 thumbs down on this one though.

      • HardHabits says:

        For the same reason a person gets 14 thumbs down for writing, “test.”

        Reactionary by definition is as I described it. My take is that I get a lot of thumbs down because E1 spams me and now Bugs is spamming me because I called his posts infantile, not funny and lacking information or insight. That’s they way these girlie men roll. Lots of others simply give me a thumbs down simply because it is my comment. I am sure I can write the same thing under another pseudonym and it would garner a thumbs up. It’s a popularity contest and quite frankly I could care what a bunch of automaton sheep think.

        Also people give me the thumbs down because as you say I am smart and that pisses them off. I also call things like I see them. It’s funny how a few people have said they miss the old HH and one of my best fans was Tony242 until I told him to stop latching onto my posts.

        It’s quite comical in many respects.

        It also proves to me without a doubt that the Internet is swarming with people who are about as independent minded as bees in a beehive.

        • I would say insulting the whole community you’re commenting on probably brings out the thumbs down. Also I doubt you’re quite as ambivalent as you’re saying, HH because this is at least the 5th time you mentioned it today alone.

          It’s true that the thumbs feature is in large part a popularity contest, but I believe it’s also true that if you ignore and say something reasonable without insulting people who might disagree with you, you probably won’t be thumbed down that much.

          I mean, I think I’ve made a fair amount of so-called “enemies” on this site from being an arrogant ass, which I know I am, but for the most part I haven’t been thumbed down too often.

        • punkster says:

          Let me try to understand this and I’m only pulling these from your comment. If I were to use the thumby thingy and give someone a thumbs down on a comment then I am a) spamming and by extension then b) I am a girlie man, or c) just don’t like the person, or d) I’m an automaton sheep, or e) the person just pisses me off.

          So what if I disagree with someone’s comment but I don’t feel the subject is worth my time debating, worth anybody else’s time to read or that my views had already been expressed and additional comments wouldn’t add anything to the debate? Is there no other purpose for those thumby thingys other than your particular view of them?

          ***Subbang Baby!!!***

          • All good points. I also find that when people start labeling anyone who disagrees with them with the same familiar terminology of “automaton” or “sheeple” or what have you, they usually don’t have a strong argument. These kinds of labels are usually applied by conspiracy theorists watching their inane ideas debunked without adequate response.

          • HardHabits says:

            I just gave you thumb down but that makes me a stud. It only makes you a girlie man when you thumb down me. Get it?

            I am such a troll sometimes. There. I admit it.

            In cases where I say something like on the other thread and here which is clearly well thought out and simply stating facts that elicit a lot of negative votes then yes I would say that that is a personal grudge that the thumb downer is taking a pot shot at me with the vote. If I post some joke everyone posts up up up but say something critical with an analysis and only PrimeTime has the decency to respond.

            I do think that most of the people here, like most people in society are sheep and automatons for the most part and are not very adept at critical thinking. The fact that people often just reflexively vote me down proves that.

            Now excuse me while I go hunt some more of Bugs’ post to thumb down. 🙂

          • @HH I don’t see why you’re complaining if you’re admittedly trying to elicit the same reaction you’re complaining about. Because you change your opinion so rapidly and so often it’s very difficult to tell when you’re actually serious about it.

          • G-Man says:

            Yes. You’re getting it. Now please agree with a thumbs up.

            2011 is the Year of the Hab (can I still say that?)

        • Propwash says:

          So, someone disagreeing with you automatically makes them wrong?

          These days, with the 5 replies per comment, it’s a pain to thoroughly debate with anyone anyway.

        • Bugs says:

          Don’t involve me in this crap, Double-H.
          I’m “infantile and uninformative” when I get it and you’re being “complemented” when you get it; I understand. Everyone knows I’d rather thumb down and run away than talk my way out; that’s so like me…

          Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

          • HardHabits says:

            I thumbed this post down. What’ya gonna do? Hunh!! Hunh!!!

          • Bugs says:

            I will shrug my shoulders indifferently and take a bite of this peach.
            For I have found zen on the matter.

            Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

          • HardHabits says:

            OMG. I just thumb up your post Bugs. I think I am due for a peach myself.

            Whether you like it or not it’s just shenanigans. I do not for second get upset over here.

            I am going to go play some chess at Pogo.Com to help stimulate my mind.

    • Habs__Guru says:

      Or, no one sees enough value in your arguments to bother wasting the time arguing. You are considered a troll, and your negative votes demonstrate that.

      • HardHabits says:

        Ah yes the ad hominem attack. But yet you waste time responding to me.

        • Habs__Guru says:

          Only to prove the point that not everyone who gives you a negative vote doesn’t comment.

          • HardHabits says:

            I said this many a time. Half of my posts are part of my shtick. The other half is to provoke critical thinking.

            Call me a troll all you like. I know who respects me here and I’d rather have 3 people I admire agree with me than 100 people who post trite and bland comments grovel at my heels.

            Many of my best friends came into my life after adversarial incidents. Some people like a challenge. Why do we go on and on about Boston? We hate them. But we admire and respect them. People who claim they don’t do both haven’t a clue about what competition is all about.

    • Bugs says:

      Thanks for the laugh, mate.

      Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

    • JasonM says:

      I gave you a thumbs down. Because it seems like the in thing to do.

      However, I’d go have drinks with you at Hurley’s anytime.

  9. JasonM says:

    So what happens when the Habs get shut out next game? Should I not park downtown tomorrow night?

  10. observer says:

    _Habsoloutly_ says:
    It’s Don Cherry

    As the greatest hockey announcer in the world says, “Elvis has just left the building!”

  11. ProHabs says:

    Playoffs being in 3 weeks. The Habs need to rush Patches, Markov and Gorges back for the danse. Go all out and make a big push for Lord’s Stanley. With everyone on board, if the team then self-destructs during the playoffs, then you blow up this team over the summer a la Bob Gainey style. It is time for number 25 in Montreal.

    • No thank you. I would rather get bounced early than risking a complete recovery to any of these players who I want to see back next year at a 100% compete level.

      • ProHabs says:

        With everyone back, this team could do some damage. Remember the game Markov got hurt, 7-2 vs. Carolina. THe game Patches got hurt, dominating the Bruins 4-0 at the time. THis is a pretty good team with everyone back and on board. It could be a Stanley Cup team. How do we know if Markov or Gorges will even be back next year.

    • Propwash says:

      It’s pointless to rush all three of them back in the lineup, none of them are ready to play yet except hopefully MaxPac in the near future.

  12. JIMVINNY says:

    Jeez. Apparently, some people don’t agree with my idea to “hide” posts that receive a certain number of negative votes. If you disagree, that’s fine. That’s the beauty of free speech; one can submit an idea, but if someone else doesn’t agree, they are free to make that known. However, (and HH, this is directed at you) I never advocated for those comments to be deleted, or their composers to be banned. The idea was that several useless arguments could be avoided by having the post that originated the argument be removed from immediate view. NOT deleted, just hidden behind a “click here” link.

    HH, you may not like the idea, and that’s fine, but don’t try to put words in my mouth. This isn’t about censorship, but rather about keeping the peace.

    • HardHabits says:

      No. I don’t agree with it. And yes it is akin to censorship.

      Sorry to break it to you mate but debate requires all points of view, even those that your sensitive ears find dissonant.

      First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. – Mahatma Gandhi

  13. habs365 says:

    if the fans want a good team we have it right now….if the fans want a stanley cup team 3/4 of this team has to go.

  14. thebigguy says:

    LA Loyalist, I was going to respond to your post under your post but it appears I can’t.

    I think it all goes down to how lucky we get with the kids. This season, had Gomez actually performed, could have been our year. Arguably, 3 of our most important players combined have a cap hit of about $5 million. Subban, Price, Pacioretty. They’re fulfilling their end of the bargain. Teams that win cups always have a couple kids who are playing ahead of their years. The Anaheim kids line or almost all of Chicago are good examples.

    Unfortunately, with the high end contracts on our team, we’ll probably have to wait till Price, Subban and Pax are overpaid and the next group is playing over their collective heads.

    Take heed though, if Chicago could win with Campbell’s contract, there’s a chance we can win with Gomez’s. No one ever seems to bring that up.

  15. Rudy says:

    I hate seeing that little x beside Boston on the conference standings!!

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  16. newbrunswick troy says:

    i really don,t feel that confident about they habs future….nobody thats big strong and putting the puck in the net

    • observer says:

      Pacioretty, Eller will put on weight too. For starters.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Power forwards with great scoring talent don’t grow on trees. How many guys like Bobby Ryan and Chris Stewart exist in the NHL? How many NHL teams can say they have two real power forwards on their roster?

      It’s an incredibly hard player to lock down, especially when you tend to draft in the later half of each draft class.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  17. OneTimer says:

    that’s some quality trolling right there. Gotta give observer some credit, he’s very good at what he does. He’s like the Steve Ott of HI/O

  18. ZepFan2 says:

    Breaking News – Tony has a picture of a hockey player – on a card – as his avatar that nobody can see.


    Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Head-shots League.

  19. showey47 says:

    hamilton bulldogs sign hobey baker finalist Paul Zanette.


  20. Psycho29 says:

    Bertuzzi tossed tonight for an elbow…looks like it could be a suspension.
    Oh wait….did the league wipe his slate clean???

  21. eric says:

    Unless we dump Gomez and his salary we won’t be able resign the players we need to resign. PG won’t do it because he’s too loyal to BG. Big problem. The future of the team for the next 3-4 years depend on it.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      prepare for death threats, but that is the sad reality. And probably we have to buy him out as he’s untradeable.

      I would have done it first thing this morning, cheer the rest of the team up before tomorrow night. Send a message that this is The Montreal Canadiens.

      As for BG — he knows Gomez is a dud, and he knows we needed Laraque because he signed him. If Gomez and Laraque had worked out as he probably envisioned we wouldn’t be sitting here crying in our beer right now. But the cow is out of the barn, and we have to do with Gomez what we did with Laraque. The soon the better.

      • eric says:

        Send him to the Dogs just as the Rangers did with Redden and the Oilers did with Souray. That way his whole salary is off the books.They still have to pay him but his salary comes off the cap.

        • LA Loyalist says:


        • Trisomy 21 says:

          WHAT?! they can do that? why wasn’t this done already?!

          • Because no free agent will ever sign with he Habs again.

            To Bill (below who I cannot reply to either). I realize Gomez was a trade. But dumping him in the minors sends a message to future free agents. Get it?

          • Bill J says:

            To:habaholic68NJ (who I can not reply to)

            HUH ? Gomez came to MTL via a trade, not a UFA signing.

            Redden was a UFA pickup as was Souray.

            Not quite the same thing.


            I dunno about that, many other more important factors play into it now for MTL. Dropping Gomez to the minors, free’s up KEY cap $ to pickup a GREAT July 1st pickup or 2 very good pickups.

            I think the bigger picture, and the players are fully aware of what it means now. Is that it’s Very much a business. And hopefully players will think twice before signing with Sather from now on.

          • HardHabits says:

            @habaholic68NJ – Utter hogwash. The only reason it wont happen is because the Habs are too stubborn to admit mistakes.

            What will really happen is no-one will want to sign here out of fear of ending up on a line with Gomez.

        • thebigguy says:

          And have Mr. Molson add an additional 7.whatever million dollars to their expenses? That’s two seven game series worth of income to the team. There’s no way Molson agrees to that.

          I’m shocked the Rangers agreed to a similar situation. Businesses generally aren’t in the habit of choosing to add almost $8 in expenses to satisfy people on message boards.

          Face it, unless we can find someone to take Gomez off our hands, he’s our for the forseable future. We’ll have a better chance of trading him when his cap hit is worth more than his contract. I figure someo of the cap floor teams would l ove to have a player that counts against the cap but costs less.

          Trade him to Phoneix in a year or 2.

          • LA Loyalist says:

            You are probably right. Just don’t expect to win for a year or two, that’s all. I’m just saying what I would do, to make a point, because I care more about pride than money.

          • Jonson says:

            No WAY! there is no way they are gonna keep this guy on the roster. whoever is running this team cannot be that stupid. they are gonna do something for sure. how can you keep that guy on your roster when you have a few guys who have a lot more to offer. I mean Eller is OUr Number 2 center ( based on skill, not ice time). but i like i said earlier in the season, he will be our number 1 center in the year or 2. nothing against Pleks but Ellers ceiling is ALOT higher. GOMEZ WILL BE GONE NOO DOOT ABOOT IT.

      • Bill J says:

        “prepare for death threats”

        Irrational much ?

        • LA Loyalist says:

          It was rhetorical exaggeration to make a point. scroll through the posts on this thread. people get 11 thumbs down for pure statements of fact, or innocuous comments that could not possibly rouse ire… yet they do. it’s ridiculous.

          I’m not happy we are where we are. I’d be much happier wrong and in first place in our division, tooling up for the playoffs, resting a few guys.

          I just saw that picture in the Globe and Mail with 2 habs with their foreheads on the bench. Can you imagine a previous Habs team with that low morale?

          That picture says it all.

          • Bill J says:

            Brad – you need to take a VERY long and deep breath. I know in LA that is hard to do, but find a way!

            The way I look at it is: I am extremely impressed at what the Habs have accomplished despite the key losses.

            Do I think they should have NOT traded for Wiz / Sopel ? Yeah sorta, I sort of wish they would have allowed to see what would happen without doing patchwork, if they fail. They get a top pick… and can rework the team via July 1st. The team would still appeal to free agents despite one rough year due to injuries.

            BUT – PG pressured by demanding fans made some good moves at low cost to patch it up. But more injuries happened, and suffice it to say MaxPac’s injury deflated this team. I read somewhere a thought I agreed with. Every team needs an offensive engine to run on. MaxPac WAS that offensive engine.

            I do not apologize for Bob Gainey or Pierre Gauthier, nor can I blame them for ANY move they have made. Because in my view, both have done more for this franchise combined, then we’ve seen in nearly 2 decades now. It took time, but the team is gaining respectability. And it will only improve.

          • HardHabits says:

            @Bill J

            There are still many negatives. IMO the window of opportunity was the Centennial melt-down. The Habs had one of the worst records going in the 2nd half if not the worst. They were a team riven by leadership issues and a coach who couldn’t resolve it. Everyone knew the team rallied around Kovalev and not Koivu but the Habs couldn’t see a top dog if it tore off their face.

            Rather than trade the UFA’s they let go for nothing and not resign the little big 3, they could have had a plethora of picks and tanked one year. Just one miserable campaign and we’d be an elite team right now with days of grandeur ahead and not a little wimpy team always injured, always in the penalty box, unable to score and looking at another 8th seed.

            The Habs have a long way to go and sadly the management repeat the same mistakes over and over again and watch as other teams rise and fall and rise again around them. Meanwhile the Habs are stuck in neutral.

            Don’t talk to me about how the Habs are doing great. Fans are incensed at the latest humiliation this team is suffering because of poor decisions and the idea that a team can be built via free agency.

            2015 my friend. That is the next opportunity. If by the trade deadline we are still a 6th to 8th place team in the East then it is time to trade what we can for picks, tank the next season and rebuild proper.

      • HardHabits says:

        Because the thumbs thing is for (profanity deleted) I will say, “I agree”

        Maybe the Habs are just taking on the character of the sheep here at HIO.

        Everybody baa in unison now!!!

    • Mark C says:

      Montreal will have enough cap space to sign pretty much everyone; it might come down to picking between Markov and the Wiz. The next off-season when Price and Subban are RFA’s might become tricky. However, at that point, moving Gomez is a lot more doable.

      • eric says:

        Will they have enough money for Gorges, possibly Hammer, Gill if they want him, Pouliot,AK, I think these players are more important to the team than Gomez

        • Mark C says:

          Yes, the team has $25M available, with 9 players under contract. Rumor has it that the cap could be going up a few mill. None of the RFA’s are getting a big raise, as Gorges, Benny and AK46 aren’t going to cash in that much to offset the money being removed or lower from the cap.

      • observer says:

        Dream on! First they have to replace all those free agent defensemen – Markov, Sopel, Wisniewski, Gill, Hamrlick and up RFA Gorges.

        And nothing is left. Gomez is a yoke around their necks.

    • Bugs says:

      Oh, c’mon. It’s not Gomez holding up the works. This was taken into account when they added him to the payroll last year, no?
      I think Jimmy is great and I would LOVE if he could stay cuz he produces like gangbusters. But he wouldn’t be here if Marky hadn’t gotten hurt.
      Plus, we kinda all figured that we’d be spewing over the Hamr’s contract come this point in timem so being able to let him go with EXCELLENT services rendered is a BLESSING and a BONUS, if you ask me.
      Sopie, Mara, I mean, c’mon.
      More’n enough for Marky and Gill.

      Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

  22. observer says:

    That is a hockey card dimwit!

    Hint – of a quite famous player!

  23. _Habsoloutly_ says:


  24. HabFanSince72 says:

    Let’s take our mind off our troubles for a minute.

    The Kool-Aid drinkers over at Leaf blog pension plan puppets are all excited about their epic season. So much so that they are calling it “like the ending of Rocky.”

    That’s right. A 12 or so game stretch of above .500 hockey that lifted them from 28th to 21st, followed by a quick return to mediocrity, is like the ending of Rocky.


  25. NightRyder says:

    Since March 1:

    Gomez, Cammalleri, Plekanec. Combined yearly salary? $18.4M

    Goals (total) this month: 2.


  26. eric says:

    I think Savard is embellishing his concussion symtoms.

  27. OneTimer says:

    Louis Leblanc’s head shape = Pavel Datsyuk’s head shape

    Therefore, Louis Leblanc = our future Datsyuk?

  28. doogie says:

    So who’s in the “next Hab goal” pool?

    my pick ……….the Wiz with a bomb from the point. He’s gotta let that cannon fly a few times tomorrow night.

    • WestHab says:

      I’ll take DD.

    • Chuck says:

      Here’s how it’ll play out:

      Habs will take a lazy-assed penalty in their own zone, and with the Thrashers retaining possession, pull their goalie in favour of the extra attacker. Hard slapper from the point, which Price kicks out solidly down the ice and into the abandoned Thrasher net.

      I pick Price. If anyone deserves it, it’s him.

    • Cdubya says:

      Long time reader..first time poster, so be gentle!

      I love the multitue of insights on HIO, but I dont get the blood thirst for ‘The Counts’ head. People always want what they dont have (i.e. Boucher) , and I think too many people overlook what we do have. Ya I wish JM would chew out the refs once in a while, but I respect him nonetheless, you know what you are going to get. How many peole honestly saw the Habs in this position, 7 points up on a playoff spot with 6 games to go, last October? And this was with the assumption that we would have Markov, Georges, Spazz etc healthy for the year. We have overacheived IMO. Yes, the last week has been frustrating to say the least….Cammy, Gomer and others have underperformed, but right now, ill bet thre is at least one of the bottom 3 teams that make the East will be in the conference finals…..

      Why? Goaltending. The best goalies are on Mtl, Buffalo & Rangers.There has been very few exceptions to an average NHL goalie hoisting the cup: Niemi & Osgoode come to mind. Although TT has had an amazing year, ill reserve judgement for the playoffs on him. He has had it relatively easy as compared to the others in terms of workload & a more talented defense & overall team in front of him. Alot of that will change in April. The ‘scary’ teams are Philly, Washington and I hate to admit, the Pens…..they all got there by finishing last for a while & getting superb draft picks….

      I live in Ottawa and trust me, its no fun having the lead story on the radio being how many points you are out of last so you can get the high lottery pick. Poeple in the senior management team are there because they are competitive by nature, they need to do whatever they can to at least maintain their position. Ottawa did that for the last few years and now they are going to be bottom feeders for the next 3-4 years. I dont recall the last time we had a top 1-3 pick, yet the Bleu, Blanc, Rouge always give me more good than bad.

  29. TheBeerStoreGuy says:

    Sorry Folks….just testing…..

  30. HNS says:

    So according to the BlowHole Milbury, if Crosby can text at the movie theatre he’s faking his concussion. Hey Mike, stick to what you know best about, Shoes.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Paul Kariya returned to play after recieving one of the most devastating hits Scott Stevens ever gave out in a SCF game but he was never the same player really.

      I guess he’s just been ‘acting’ for 8 years to try and get Stevens in trouble…

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • HNS says:

        I’m hoping, praying that Max does not fall under that category. It just pisses me off when some lame retired player that happens to have been a weak coach and horror show GM, comes out with non credible biased comments. F U Mike.

      • Nahlsy says:

        It was the Gary Suter cross check that messed up Kariya. The Stevens hit knocked the wind out of him HARD, but didn’t actually do any damage to his head (shockingly as that was one heck of a hit)

    • doogie says:

      Totally agree, the hockey media is so blessed to have Milbury and Doug MacLean as on air authorities. Gosh we’re so blessed. Tool time!

      It amazes me that you put former Canadien players on air like Carbo, Robinson, Beliveau, Dryden, Lapointe, and on…and they all come across as classy, knowledgeable hockey gentlemen. Edmonton instilled that into their players as well….smart and respect for the game..Coffey, Simpson, Lowe…Former Bruin, Flyer, Leaf players all come across as unstable tools. What’s that tell you about their respective organizations. Again, let’s check in at the expert desk with Mike Milbury or Nick Kypreos for their insights.

  31. Bill says:

    Robert, pardon my laziness for not looking this up, but since the Saulnier brothers weren’t drafted last year, could they be signed as free agents?

    If anyone is wondering why the Habs would bother, I’ve been impressed watching these guys this year. Great players – dominant at times – in both ends. They aren’t big, but they made a serious commitment to strength conditioning last summer and they are seriously strong.

    I’d pick up the Acadien Pocket Sedins if they can be signed for cheap and try them out in Hamilton, why the hell not?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      I think they could be yes and imagine as per usual if no team uses late-round picks to take flyers on them that they’ll get an invitation to development camp by MTL.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • Mark C says:

      They both still hold draft eligibility as overagers this year, and will be eligable until drafted or not older than 20 by December 31 of the draft year. At which time they will become free agents.

  32. SamB says:

    Here’s hoping Kristo doesn’t go for a stroll in freezing temperatures and loses his shoes again.

  33. Ian Cobb says:

    The next Cary Price to be drafted out of the OHL is PK’s kid brother.

    He is one hot goal tender in the play offs this year for the Belleville Bulls and so young for this league. Belleville is not a top team this year, so Suban is seeing a ton of rubber between the pipes.
    He has 4 more years left to play in Junior.

  34. Ian Cobb says:

    A lot of work and a lot of great info for us Robert!

  35. samTHEman says:

    Thumbs up if you think we will finally score vs Atlanta tomorrow.
    Thumbs down if you think we get shutout for the 4th straight game

  36. samTHEman says:

    Hype around Tinordi sort of remind me of O’Byrne

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Tinordi isn’t getting much hype from anyone who really tracks the prospects right now. He’s a project player who’s going to take another year in the OHL and likely two in the AHL.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • TheMock780 says:

      Tinordi got off to a really tough start this season in the OHL adjusting to the amount of games played, the speed of the league and the competitive level. His physical play picked up in the second half of the season but still not much hype there cause of the rough start, low point total, and the London Knights had a down year by their standards. I’d be looking for Tinordi to break out next season and spend a full season or two in the minors. He won’t be ready for a few years and I think the Habs have learned their lesson for rushing prospects

  37. shuttle-lemaire-lafleur says:


  38. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Not sure if it’s been posted yet, but here’s an article on Subbie’s younger bro.

    Will prospect Jordan Subban outshine PK one day?

  39. observer says:

    Exactly! Every single one is an excellent player! And each one will star with the Habs and won’t have to be traded elsewhere to blossom and bloom.

  40. punkster says:

    Thanks Robert!

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  41. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you for cheering us up Robert during a trying time!

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Hey guys – TSN has article today on rookies. 2 part question:

      a) does PK deserve Rookie of Year
      b) does he have a legit shot or is Montreal persona non grata?

      discuss among yourselves.

      • observer says:

        He has no shot as good as he is but I’d still rather have him over Jeff Skinner and Logan Couture when it is all said and done.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        PK has been good but this years rookie crop was really deep. I like Grabner or Skinner. Both have played well all year.

        PK is great but I think will get a ton better with time. He cost the team a few games this year but he is high risk, high reward type player. He will be a big asset to Montreal for years to come.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      That’s my job. Already draft-watching for 2011 as well. Nicklas Jensen and Mark McNeill are my guys. Really want the Habs to go heavy and land another 1st-round pick so they can grab both of them.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • TheMock780 says:

        With no second round pick though I’m not sure how they could grab a second #1. I like McNeill too but I wouldn’t be adverse to them trading back a couple of slots to grab a second rounder and taking McNeill if he’s still there, Boone Jenner, or go bloodlines for the second year in a row and take David Musil on the back end

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          I personally don’t know how they could exactly swing getting the extra pick, but I’d like to see MTL go for it, time to put more grit and size on the wings.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

          • TheMock780 says:

            Absolutely. A couple of guys the Habs might look at in that capacity in rounds 2-3 if they can snag a second round pick are Adam Lowry (6″4, 190 lbs.) out of Swift Current, Colin Jacobs out of Seattle (6″2, 205 lbs.) or to a lesser extent Zack Phillips (6″1, 180 lbs) out of Saint John or Stefan Noesen (6″1, 195 lbs) out of Plymouth.

            I’m a particularly big fan of Lowry and the scouting report on him is that he’s still growing, has good hands, hits like a truck, and fights. His skating needs to improve but almost every big prospect seems to have to do that at first.

  42. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Just read this on TSN, probably posted by observer:

    “I just heard a rumor that the Canadiens are trying to bring back the teritorial rights rule so they can start winning cups again. They are finally understanding that it is hard to win a cup when you don’t have an advantage over every other team. Without the territorial right rule, the Habs would have only won 7 cups compared to the Leafs 13 “

    • HardHabits says:

      The territorial rights rule is a fallacy.

      The Habs could however use the Q to their advantage by:

      1) involving the team in the development of more and better hockey players in QMJHL
      2) helping the QMJHL become a better league that returns to it’s glory days of producing a large amount of quality NHL potential players
      3) have better scouting in the QMJHL
      4) drafting more players from the QMJHL

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Habs would need to help out in lower levels of hockey as well, Quebec’s not done well in producing talent since the current development of the NHL prospect means pond hockey kids can’t grow to the NHL like in the glory days of the franchise. Need to invest in just getting kids equipped for hockey as well.

        Habs improved this year by putting a full-time scout in the QMJHL but let’s be clear, Habs have paid plenty of attention to the Q. We invite guys who weren’t drafted each year to our own mini-combine and rookie camps. We signed Dany Masse, Phillippe Lefebvre, David Desharnais, Cedrick Desjardins in the last few years as undrafted UFAs, tapped Leblanc, Dumont, Ellis and traded for Bournival so we have 4 guys in the Q this season.

        Not saying we’ve always done well with Q choices but the Habs are doing okay there but if anything, we need better eyes in the OHL/WHL.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

        • HardHabits says:

          Which part of what I said don’t you understand? I am saying be pro-active. Get kids in hockey equipment. Put trainers out there. Invest money. Advertise. Get involved. Buy the damn league if need be. Partner with the Quebec government and local sports organizations. It’s our back yard for Pete’s sake and the Habs are not tapping into it effectively enough.

    • eric says:

      Yeah and if my aunt didn’t have…….. she’d be my uncle

    • fbkj says:

      you gotta love the territorial rights argument

      • ZepFan2 says:

        Yeah Liam makes it easy to debunk that nonsense, eh!

        Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Head-shots League.

        • fbkj says:

          “I hope this helps clear up any misconception. I believe this fallacy was born primarily by frustrated anti-Montreal fans”

          • ZepFan2 says:

            No doubt!

            Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Head-shots League.

    • observer says:

      There is no such rumor. Pollock tried to keep it going just for one more year when Gilbert Perrault was to be eligible for the draft, but could not get it done. It or any similar type rule never will be back again in any big league sport in North America.

      • ZepFan2 says:

        Territorial rights ended in 1943

        “From 1936-1943 Montreal protected 14 players through this special draft.”

        “In 1963, the French Canadian rule was brought back for the Montreal Canadiens. It was not necessary, no question about it but Selke and Pollock worked a sweet deal and got it back on the books however the same rules applied. The player could not have signed a C form with any other team. From 1963-1967 none of the players Montreal selected played one minute in the NHL, ever. Finally in 1968, they drafted their first live one. A goalie named Michel Plasse. In 1969, it was determined that this would be the final year of the draft in this manner and the sponsorship of Junior A teams would cease to be. All players were to be 20 years of age or older and they would be eligible for a Universal Amateur Draft. Montreal was given one final kick at the French Canadian can and they made the most of it by selecting Rejean Houle and Marc Tardif. That was it for the French rule. By then Sam Pollock or Trader Sam as he was known, was working magic year in and year out on draft day and by flipping players in Montreal’s farm system that had been so expertly set up years before by Selke and ran by Pollock, for draft picks. Players like Guy Lafleur, Steve Shutt, Mario Tremblay, several others, were selected with picks that Pollock acquired through trades.” Liam McGuire

        Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Head-shots League.

      • fbkj says:

        what are you talking about?

    • observer says:

      BTW – the way the league operated prior to the draft Montreal had first rights on all players in Quebec and Toronto on those in Ontario, the other teams looked elsewhere and for players who fell through the cracks in these 2 provinces and were overlooked by both these teams. Most players in those days came from Ontario and Quebec. No euros, very few Americans. That’s why from 40s to 70s most of the Cups won by these 2 teams.

      A lot different since!

  43. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Nice breakdown serious, thanks.

  44. CHsam says:

    Nice work SeriousFan. Great reading.

    Can’t wait to see Leblanc, Bournival, Tinordi with the team. Tinordi’s going to be a beast

  45. HalifaxHabs says:

    Oh man, Montreal is making short work of the Mooseheads.

    I’ll be there Tuesday and Wednesday to watch Louis LeBlanc light up my home town boys. Here’s hoping the Moose can actually steal a game… but Louis still gets a hatty 🙂

    • veryhabby says:

      Right now most people would agree that Leblanc is our “best” prospect. But why isn’t Bournival getting the same “love” by us fans? He is 2 yrs younger then Lelbanc yet is scoring at the same level. He is the captain of his team, and he’s already a few lbs heavier then Leblanc (so I would assume still lots of time and room to grow). Anyways, I think Bournival should be our #2 prospect, even ahead of Kristo. BTW, glad he has come thru the frostbite situation with some real good games now.

      Emelin to MTL, Gauthier do what you have to, just get the kid here so we can all have a look! Better to have tried then not to have. I will assume a guarantee contract will be needed to get him here.

      • thebigguy says:

        I hope no one is suggesting it’s because of the language issue rather than just the likelihood of people being unaware of who Bournival is. Leblanc was 1st round pick drafted in front of his hometown crowd. Bournival was a prospect handed to us mid senason by a panicky Colorado Gm who seems to love to overpay for overrated defencemen.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Leblanc’s got a higher profile because of his WJC appearance and many consider he has a higher offensive ceiling. Bournival is more a player who grinds his points out so he’s considered less attractive because it becomes progressively harder for that style to get high points totals as players move up through the leagues. The Q is also a weaker league compared to the OHL/WHL so a player coming out of the league is not considered that high a profile player.

        Kristo’s 2010 WJC performance was a strong one and I can see why people are high on him, he’s a lightning-quick skater who can make plays and quick decisions while he’s going full steam. He’s had some trouble this season but was WCHA rookie of the year last season and this year he’s still getting points while playing on the 3rd line.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • soperman says:

      I took my free playoff tickets but didn’t buy more. Hopefully they will be better next year.

      Another game on Friday would be great.

    • observer says:

      figures! were they drinking moosehead beer? how can they name a team after a beer?

  46. Hobie Hansen says:

    I really hope the Habs convince Yemelin to come play over on this side of the pond next season.
    If that’s the case maybe you let Gill and Hamrlik walk and focus on getting Gorges and Markov or Wisniewski signed.

    Markov, Gorges, Subban, Yemelin, Webber, Spacek – would be fine with me next year. Maybe sign a nasty 6th/7th defenseman to play during the real physical games or fill in during injuries…or even knock Spacek out of the rotation.

    Actually send Gomez and Spacek to Hamilton come to think of it!

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Spacek can’t be taken off the cap by deploying him to HAM, you need to send him to a team in a salary dump scenario, perhaps one that is looking to meet the cap floor?

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

      • wotever says:

        Yo down voters:

            In addition, 50.5(d)(i)(B)(5) states the following:

            All Player Salary and Bonuses earned in a League Year by a Player who is in the second or later year of a multi-year SPC which was signed when the Player was age 35 or older (as of June 30 of the League Year in which the SPC is to be effective), but which Player is not on the Club’s Active Roster, Injured Reserve, Injured Non Roster or Non Roster, and regardless of whether, or where, the Player is playing, except to the extent the Player is playing under his SPC in the minor leagues, in which case only the Player Salary and Bonuses in excess of $100,000 shall count towards the calculation of Averaged Club Salary;

            So if a 35-year old player signs a 3-year contract and meets the criteria set above, his average salary would count against the team’s cap for the 2nd and 3rd years of the contract regardless of where (or if) the player is playing.  If that player plays in the minors, then his Averaged Club Salary less $100,000 would count.

        It’s just a game.

  47. Kooch7800 says:

    I see Ian Schultz has a couple of goals now finally. Apparently he is actually playing hockey now and not just fighting. I am glad to hear it. He can handle himself well but he can also play hockey. I hope he works on his goal scoring cause I think he could be a good 3rd or 4th line guy as he does have some hands and agression this team is lacking.

  48. soperman says:

    On Tuesday and Wednesday night we get to see Louis LeBlanc decimate our beloved Mooseheads. This is one time I will enjoy watching their hinnies get kicked. The only thing I hope for is one Montréal meltdown so we can see a game on Friday as well.

  49. HardHabits says:

    At least there is some good news for the Habs Future. Hopefully the Habs can acquire some more players that they can groom to be NHLers. By that I mean players with skill, speed and size.

    • habs365 says:

      HardHabits: That’s the kind of comments I like reading. you’re right on.

    • thebigguy says:

      Us and the rest of the league. Look, obviously our management philosophy remains the same. I honestly can’t remember a year where I was watching this team and I didn’t hear that we’re too small. Look at the players we’ve drafted (Tinordi notwithstanding), all fast, slick players. Are (m)any of our prospects big hulking power forwards? Would those players even work here?

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Hey Thumbs-downers! Please explain your bad towards HH’s comments? How is it possible to disagree with him?

      • I’d imagine HH gets a lot of thumbs down because, although he’s very smart, he’s extremely reactionary.

        • HardHabits says:

          I see it as a compliment. If these thumb downers had any balls they’d debate me.

          Thanks LAL for sticking up for me, especially considering we’ve been on opposite sides of issues many a time.

          Thank you too AB but I am not reactionary. That is akin to being ultraconservative. I am in fact the opposite of reactionary. I am provocative and radical. I constantly promote change and embrace it.

  50. Bryan says:

    Good to see LL picking his game up again, as well as Kristo. Hopefully those two can turn into two good top-6 forwards for us down the road.


    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

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