Habs Future

Robert Rice (Serious Fan 09) checks in with his weekly look at prospects in the Canadiens system.
Michäel Bournival, Nathan Beaulieu and Brendan Gallagher at the World Juniors tryout camp.

The Three Stars of the Week

1. RW Aaron Palushaj has returned to the Hamilton Bulldogs once more, helping reinforce the team as they seek to regain much lost ground in the American Hockey League standings. Palushaj’s first game back was the definition of great timing for the embattled farm team of the Montreal Canadiens, he scored the game-winning goal in overtime to end a 0-0 tie and a victory over the Adirondack Phantoms on Tuesday. Palushaj would later score a goal and assist in his 3rd game of the week as the Bulldogs soundly defeated the Syracuse Crunch 4-1. Palushaj was held off the scoresheet against the Toronto Marlies on Friday and the Rochester Americans on Sunday. Palushaj’s two goals and assist also saw him cross the milestone of 100 career AHL points for a total of 102, including 33 goals. Palushaj was drafted in the 2nd round, 44th overall by the St Louis Blues in the 2007 Entry Draft and was acquired by the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Matt D’Agostini.

2. C Michaël Bournival has continued his drive to restore himself to regular form after missing a month with a shoulder injury while preparing himself to try out for Team Canada for the upcoming Under-20 World Junior Tournament. In his first game of the week, Bournival scored two goals trying to force a comeback for his Shawinigan Cataractes against the Baie-Comeau Drakkar, but the effort unfortunately fell short in a 3-2 loss. Bournival would add a single assist in a 3-0 victory over the Drummondville Voltigeurs on Friday night to finish his week. Bournival currently holds the 2nd-best active points streak for a Canadiens prospect with 3 goals and 6 assists over five games and a total of 15 goals in 16 games this season. Bournival was drafted in the 3rd round, 71st overall in the 2010 Entry Draft by the Colorado Avalanche and was acquired by the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Ryan O’Byrne.

3. RW Danny Kristo set a couple of important marks for himself over the weekend. On Saturday night, he scored the only goal of the game 44 seconds into the 3rd period to help secure the game for North Dakota, allowing them to split their weekend series with University of Nebraska-Omaha after a 3-2 overtime loss on Friday where Kristo was held pointless. This was the 3rd Saturday game in a row for Kristo where he scored, or assisted on the game-winning goal. It was Kristo’s 9th goal of the season in his 18th game, eclipsing his rather underachieving mark of 8 goals over 34 games last season. Kristo was drafted in the 2nd round, 56th overall in the 2008 Entry Draft by the Montreal Canadiens.

Of Special Note: The fate of Nathan Beaulieu, Michaël Bournival and Brendan Gallagher’s bids to represent Canada at the Under-20 World Junior Championships will be known very soon. Final Scrimmage will take place Tuesday night against the Canadian Interuniversity Sports All-Stars. Final roster to be announced on Wednesday.

On The Radar: RW Brendan Gallagher scored a goal and assist in his only game of the week, raising him to 24G, 22A on his season, 1 point short of 250 career points in the WHL. D Scott Kishel had a goal and assist over the weekend. C Daniel Pribyl had a two-goal game in his only First League game on the week. RW Steve Quailer now holds the longest point streak for a Canadiens prospect this season after scoring his 6th goal of the season on Saturday, he has 5G, 7A over 7 games.

Question Marks: D Brendon Nash is out indefinitely after having shoulder surgery in October. D Jarred Tinordi was suspended by the OHL for two games for fighting in the last five minutes of a game on December 3rd. C Dustin Walsh is out with a leg injury.

Complete Statistics for the week of December 5th, 2011

Games Played, Goals, Assists, +/-, Penalty Minutes
Goalies: Wins, Losses, Overtime Losses, Shootout Losses, Goals Against Average, Save Percentage
Teams: Wins, Losses, Overtime Losses, Shootout Losses, Ties (for NCAA teams only)
Season Stats: Season scoring prior to the past week.

The AHL Report
: The Hamilton Bulldogs have been the AHL affiliate of the Montreal Canadiens since 2002. It is the most common route for developing Montreal Canadiens prospects into full-time members of the organization. There are currently 9 members of the Hamilton Bulldogs that can be thought to have future consideration for an NHL position. The Hamilton Bulldogs have a record of  10-13-1-1 and are 5th in their Division, 13th in their Conference, 27th overall in the AHL.

RW Alexander Avtsin: 20 years old, 6’2″, 199 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 21GP, 2G, 5A, -10, 12 PIM
Weekly Stats: 4GP, 1G, 0A, +1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 25GP, 3G, 5A, -9, 12 PIM

RW Mike Blunden: 24 years old, 6’4”, 218 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 12GP, 2G, 4A, 0, 8 PIM

Weekly Stats: 4GP, 1G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 16GP, 3G, 4A, 0, 8 PIM

C Philip DeSimone 24 years old, 6’1”, 188 pounds, LH shot.

Season Stats: 21GP, 5G, 6A, -10, 18 PIM
Weekly Stats: 4GP, 0G, 1A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 25GP, 5G, 7A, -10, 18 PIM

C Gabriel Dumont: 20 years old, 5’10”, 189 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 12GP, 1G, 1A, -6, 8 PIM

Weekly Stats: 4GP, 0G, 0A, -1, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 16GP, 1G, 1A, -7, 10 PIM

C Andreas Engqvist: 23 years old, 6’4″, 191 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 8GP, 3G, 2A, +2, 6 PIM

Weekly Stats: 4GP, 1G, 0A, +1, 6 PIM | Complete Stats: 12GP, 4G, 2A, +3, 12 PIM

RW Aaron Palushaj: 22 years old, 6′, 188 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 6GP, 1G, 6A, -3, 10 PIM

Weekly Stats: 4GP, 1G, 0A, +2, 6 PIM | Complete Stats: 10GP, 2G, 6A, -1, 16 PIM

Called up to Montreal:

C Louis Leblanc: 20 years old, 6’, 180 pounds, RH shot.

Season Stats: 14GP, 4G, 6A, -5, 4 PIM


D Brendon Nash: 23 years old, 6’3″, 210 pounds, LH shot.

Season Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM

Assigned to the ECHL Wheeling Nailers:

G Peter Delmas: 21 years old, 6’2”, 188 pound, Catches Left.


Season Stats: 0 GP, 0-0-0, 0.00GAA, 1.00 Save %


Season Stats:  9 GP, 5-3-0, 2.32GAA,  .900 Save %

Weekly Stats: 1 GP, 1-0-0, 1.00GAA, .971 Save % | Complete Stats: 10 GP, 5-3-0, 2.17GAA,  .911 Save %

The Juniors Report: The Canadiens currentlyfeature prospects playing in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League (QMJHL), the Ontario Hockey League (OHL) and the Western Hockey League (WHL). These leagues can be considered the primary conduit towards professional hockey in North America.


LW Olivier Archambeault: 18 years old, 5’11”, 184 pounds. LH shot.

Junior Club: Drummondville Voltigeurs

(13W, 17L, 2 OTL, 3 SOL – 14th of 17th overall in the QMJHL)

Season Stats: 26GP, 9G, 11A, -12, 12 PIM

Weekly Stats: 3GP, 0G, 2A, +1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 29GP, 9G, 13A, -11, 12 PIM

D Nathan Beaulieu: 19 years old, 6’3”, 191 pounds, LH shot.

Junior Club: Saint John Sea Dogs – Alternate Captain

(26W, 10L, 0 OTL, 1 SOL- 1st of 17th overall in the QMJHL)

Season Stats: 29GP, 8G, 18A, +20, 55 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 30GP, 8G, 18A, +20, 57 PIM

C Michaël Bournival: 19 years old, 6’, 187 pounds, LH shot.

Junior Club: Shawinigan Cataractes – Team Captain

(22W, 9L, 2 OTL, 2 SOL – 4th of 17th overall in the QMJHL.)

Season Stats: 14GP, 13G, 8A, +3, 4 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 2G, 1A, +2, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 16GP, 15G, 9A, +5, 4 PIM

D Morgan Ellis: 19 years old, 6’2″, 204 pounds, RH shot.
Junior Club: Cape Breton Screaming Eagles – Team Captain

(14W, 20L, 0 OTL, 1 SOL – 15th of 17th overall in the QMJHL

Season Stats: 27GP, 7G, 14A, -4, 10 PIM
Weekly Stats: 3GP, 0G, 1A, -1, 6 PIM | Complete Stats: 30GP, 7G, 15A, -5, 16 PIM


D Jarred Tinordi: 19 years old, 6’7″, 215 pounds, LH shot.
Junior Club: London Knights – Team Captain

(24W, 6L, 0 OTL, 1 SOL – 1st of 20th overall in the OHL)

Season Stats: 18GP, 0G, 7A, +17, 49 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 0A, -1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 19GP, 0G, 7A, +16, 49 PIM


D Darren Dietz: 18 years old, 6’1”, 195 pounds, RH shot.

Junior Club: Saskatoon Blades – Alternate Captain

(20W, 11L, 0 OTL, 1 SOL – 8th of 22nd overall in the WHL)

Season Stats: 31GP, 5G, 11A, +14, 47 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 0G, 1A, +1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 32GP, 5G, 12A, +15, 47 PIM

RW Brendan Gallagher: 19 years old, 5’8″, 175 pounds, RH shot.
Junior Club: Vancouver Giants – Alternate Captain

(20W, 11L, 1 OTL, 1 SOL – 7th of 22nd overall in the WHL)

Season Stats: 27GP, 23G, 21A, +10, 37 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 1G, 1A, +2, 2 PIM | Complete Stats: 28GP, 24G, 22A, +12, 39 PIM

US College Hockey (NCAA) Report: The Canadiens have drafted a number of college players in recent years, these are generally ‘project players’ who benefit from additional years in lower level hockey to develop their skills.

D Mac Bennett: 20 years old,  6′, 180 pounds, LH shot.
NCAA Team: University of Michigan Wolverines

(9W, 8L, 3T)

Season Stats: 18GP, 3G, 10A, +8, 6 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 0G, 0A, -1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 20GP, 3G, 10A, +7, 6 PIM

D Scott Kishel: 22 years old, 6’, 190 pounds, LH shot.

NCAA Team: University of Minnesota-Duluth Bulldogs

(12W, 3L, 3T)

Season Stats: 16GP, 1G, 11A, +10, 10 PIM

Weekly Stats: 2GP, 1G, 1A, +2, 4 PIM | Complete Stats: 18GP, 2G, 12A, +12, 14 PIM

RW Danny Kristo: 21 years old, 5’11”, 188 pounds, RH shot.
NCAA Team: University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux

(9W, 8L, 1T)

Season Stats: 16GP, 8G, 11A, +6, 12 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 1G, 0A, -1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 18GP, 9G, 11A, +5, 12 PIM

C Mark MacMillan: 19 years old, 6’, 170 pounds, LH shot.

NCAA Team: University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux

(9W, 8L, 1T)

Season Stats: 16GP, 2G, 4A, -8, 8 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 18GP, 2G, 4A, -8, 8 PIM

D Greg Pateryn: 21 years old, 6’3”, 222 pounds, RH shot.

NCAA Team: University of Michigan Wolverines

(9W, 8L, 3T)

Season Stats: 18GP, 2G, 8A, +7, 10 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 0G, 1A, -1,  2 PIM | Complete Stats: 20GP, 2G, 9A, +6, 12 PIM

LW Steve Quailer: 22 years old, 6’4”, 200 pounds, LH shot.

NCAA Team: Northeastern University Huskies

(7W, 7L, 2T)

Season Stats: 13GP, 5G, 10A, +7, 12 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 1G, 0A, +1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 14GP, 6G, 10A, +8, 12 PIM

C Dustin Walsh: 20 years old, 6’3”, 190 pounds, LH shot.

NCAA Team: Dartmouth College Big Green

(5W, 5L, 1T)

Season Stats: 5GP, 2G, 5A, +3, 2 PIM
Weekly Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 5GP, 2G, 5A, +3, 2 PIM

Czech Extraliga Report: The Extraliga is the top professional league in the Czech Reppublic. The First League is the league that plays under it.

C Daniel Pribyl: 18 years old, 6’3”, 190 pounds, RH shot.

Extraliga Team: HC Sparta Praha

(19W, 5L, 6 OTL – 2nd of 14th overall in the League)

Season Stats: 15GP, 2G, 0A, 0, 2 PIM
Weekly Stats: 0GP, 0G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 15GP, 2G, 0A, 0, 2 PIM

Czech First League Team: HC Berountsi Medovi

(14W, 16L, 1 OTL – 10th of 14th overall in the League)

Season Stats: 7GP, 3G, 3A, 0, 2 PIM
Weekly Stats: 1GP, 2G, 0A, 0, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 8GP, 5G, 3A, 0, 2 PIM

Elitserien Report: The Swedish Elite League is the top professional league of Sweden.

D Magnus Nygren: 21 years old, 6’1”, 191 pounds, RH shot.

Elitserien Team: Farjestads BK

(15W, 8L, 7 OTL – 5th of 12 overall in the League)

Season Stats: 28GP, 5G, 7A, -7, 2 PIM
Weekly Stats: 2GP, 0G, 0A, -1, 0 PIM | Complete Stats: 30GP, 5G, 7A, -8, 2 PIM


  1. HabinBurlington says:


    Sutton’s first part of the story is interesting, brings up some valid points regarding the current Justice process with Shanahan.

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Till they regulate the equipments (softer shoulder pad for start) i don’t see a end to all the injury’s ,the fact that all the glass around the league is more giving as help but open ice hit are just deadly look at Crosby and Giroux both were collision with teammates

    • montreal ace says:

      I have met victims of child abuse, and for many most of the strength they have is used for daily living. Many of these victims lives will end early, and for many lives will be changed forever, and in most cases not for the better. I think when people have been compromised in such a cruel fashion, their thinking process has been flawed, and it requires a great deal of work to get it back. I have found in life some kinds of strength only come with time, and for victims I hope they find this time. I think Mr. Hickey will have second thoughts on this subject, as he did not think the subject through. There were a people on this thread, that revealed they had been abused, my best wishes for their futures, and to the many others also.

  2. HabinBurlington says:

    In light of the recent article by Mr. Hickey re:Fleury, I can’t help but wonder if perhaps we all would have been better served had this particular scenario been brought up in an interview with Mr. Fleury. I would think it is obvious Mr. Fleury would have preferred James not be the coach of the Hitmen while he was a partner in the ownership structure. But rather than taking the position of Mr. Fleury being wrong or blamed, perhaps in discussing this with Theo more awareness to the long term issues related to sex abuse could have been brought to the forefront. Thus perhaps giving us answers as to why it was that Theo did not do more to prevent James from continuing as coach.

    We posters here at HI/O often have the benefit of hindsight, and react to the news stories rather than make the news stories. It is easier for us to cast judgement or make opinions as a result. I don’t think Mr. Hickey is a man with any malice intent and perhaps also wishes this story had come out different. I am hopeful a conversation between Theo and Pat can occur which can provide something constructive out of this.

    I don’t think any of us ever want to discuss a topic like this on a hockey forum. Unfortunately, in light of all the different horrifying stories which have recently been reported (Penn St., Syracuse) and the James story, these incidents are occuring in the sports we love and affect people. I can only imagine that there are many more cases we don’t know about, and it is with the hope that more of these creeps are caught, punished and prevent others from occurring that these topics need to be discussed. It would be wonderful to treat sports as our escape from day to day realities, but sports faces the same challenges which our day to day realities face.

    • All I know is that I will teach my kids to always come forward with anything remotely close to abuse.

      I watch them closely but some day they’ll be on their own and I want them to feel that it’s OK to talk about situations like this one (James the Monster).

      So far (8&11), the communication has been great and I can always tell when something is wrong.

      As for the article. I don’t agree with it but I bet it created a lot of clicks.

      Unfortunately there are kids out there who don’t have parents to look after them like they should and those are the kids who get trapped.

      I never read the Fleury story, I wonder if he came from a good family?

      Shane Oliver
      Brandon, MB,Canada
      R7B 2R7
      Ph- 204 724 8418

  3. PrimeTime says:

    This site has become useless. The articles on the Habs can be found elsewhere…..no longer any insight. Boone has gone over the edge, maybe caught up in the crap that generates so many hits here. None the less, negativity may draw some attention but like cancer, it’ll will eventually kill ya. The high road is the only path to long term success. Misery attracts misery. Who needs it?!?! Boone panders to the common demonitor.

    • The Cat says:

      Dude, dont take the site or being a habs fan too seriously. Think of it as cowboys and indians but for grown ups ^_^.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • AllHailTheFlower says:

      I don’t understand how you can post something so negative (i.e. articles can be found elsewhere, no longer any insight) right after yet another excellent thread detailing the prospects in the Canadiens organization, and who we might see wearing the CH in the future.
      I’m sure Boone & Co. have better things to do in their lives, but they choose to create & maintain this site and this forum for us fans to discuss everything related to the Canadiens, and a few things that aren’t. Okay, so you no longer like HIO – then don’t come here, it’s that simple. But don’t show up and piss all over another man’s work, just ’cause it’s not your cup of tea. Thanks.

      • malmn says:

        “hey choose to create & maintain this site and this forum for us fans to discuss ”

        Really? The don’t chose anything. It’s their job. They are paid for it and traffic is how they determine if they’re successful or not. Like most of the media today they will create anything to stir up interest and clicks. I’ll bet $100 that most of the Gazette’s write dont really think or believe what they write. They do it for the attention and $$$.

    • I use the site to communicate with fellow Habs fans. It’s a lot of fun. However I’m from Brandon, MB via PEI. Not a lot of Habs fans to talk hockey, so this is it and it does the job.

      The Jets are all the rave here (and Wheat Kings) and I am a fan of neither. I talk about them with friends and the minor hockey family, but they have no idea what it’s like to be a Canadiens fan. No body does (except for us).

      If it weren’t for this site I never would have made the last two Summits.

      I pick and choose which articles to read.

      If I don’t like something on the Habs, I find a way to talk about it without sounding like a whiner, complainer, and all around little female dog.

      Just me, but I like this place and to be honest ever since the Friday, the place is a lot better.

      Shane Oliver
      Brandon, MB,Canada
      R7B 2R7
      Ph- 204 724 8418

    • malmn says:

      I’m with you. HabLand is turning into a real joke.

      GO HABS GO!!!

    • HardHabits says:

      I connected a second demonitor to my decomputer and it’s very uncommon.

  4. diehardhab says:

    Im not gonna pretend I know or understand all the optics of Fleury’s situation but it is odd that James was the coach of his minor hockey team. Ideally Fleury would not have let him coach but who knows where his head was at the time. I don’t blame Fleury for what happened and think its irresponsible to do so. We need more victims to feel comfortable coming forward so the perpetrators are prosecuted like they deserve.

    The torch be yours to hold it high!


  5. kakey says:

    Here’s one thing that should be pointed out on the “hypocritical” part that Hickey was using to describe Fleury in his article: He was not saying that Fleury allowed this to happen to himself, but rather pointing out that while Fleury was accusing the justice system for not protecting children from Graham James by granting him bail, he was possibly exposing other CHILDREN by allowing Graham James to continue coaching other CHILDREN.

    That is a totally different issue regarding what Fleury went through, which is undeniably an ordeal regardless what action he took to deal and denounce it, and should not be judged upon.

    • Chuck says:

      You literally beat me by seconds in posting essentially the same comment.

      “At the time of Kennedy’s revelations, James was the coach of the Calgary Hitmen. He was one of the co-owners of the junior team in the Western Hockey League. One of the other owners was Theoren Fleury. Here was someone who had suffered abuse at the hands of Graham James. Here was someone who knew that James had abused other players. Here was someone who was exposing other children to the same sexual predator.”

      It happened to Theo at the hands of this man, so how could he turn a blind eye toward the possibility of it occurring to other kids under his charge… especially when he was in a position to do something about it?

      It might be a difficult question, especially considering Fleury’s history, but I’ll give Hickey balls for asking it.

      • Sotxhabsfan says:

        Fleury and Graham James were two of eighteen original owners of the Hitmen. It is possible that Fleury did not want James to be involved in coaching, but did not want to let the other owners know why he objected.

      • Miltie01 says:

        What some , including Mr. Hickey, are ignoring is the dynamics of sexual abuse. It isn’t even about sex, it is about power and control. This is what is behind the seemingly contradictary words and actions of Fleury. Fleury was in no position to out James at the time and protect these kids. He couldn’t even protect himself. Unless you have been there you may not understand.

        This is all the more reason to revile James, not cast venom at Fluery. He is not a hypocrite. The power and control these predators have over their victims is both vile and ominous.

        Mr. Hickey needs to do more research in this regards. Maybe he could sit down with Fleury ?

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Agree Miltie.

        • Everlasting1 says:

          How about having Fleury (in the position of power as co-owner and grown man) sit down with the parents of other abused children and explain why he was too afraid/powerless to come forward and make a stand. Forget Hickey.

          “For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will smite all the first-born in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the Gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the LORD.” Exodus 12:12

          “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  6. Clay says:

    Another dumb-a** poll question on this site. Everything’s not black-and-white fellows – please allow for some middle ground. How about a third option – something like this:
    Q: Do you think Pierre Gauthier made a good move in acquiring Tomas Kaberle?

    ‘Only if Markov is finished’
    I vote for the third option…

    “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.” – Jean Beliveau.

    • Yes

      TK was a good signing and will improve the Habs PP. TK will have the most points as a Habs D at the end of the season. Habs spend a little more to acquire TK but it was worth every penny more. A little more than $416,667.00 is a steal.

      Next season is another season that PG will have to deal with. But for now, TK brings a lot more that JS. TK is just as good as AM when Habs are on PP. AM & TK are very keen when they QB the PP and fines the open man with ease.

      Some people get upset when Habs management makes a trade and when they don’t. What’s it going to take for all bashing to STOP? Lets see how this trade is going to iron out before all jumps to conclusions and all hell breaks loose over nothing.

      TK is a very important part of the Habs PP and IF AM returns, it adds another demention to Habs PP. TK is the right fit to JM system and will adjust accordingly with a few practices and games played. For now, Lets see what TK can do in adding more scoring this team needs to do. C’mon lets here for TK & the boys. A few wins will change a lot of hearts in the coming weeks and I be the first to say it was a GREAT DEAL. You heard it here 1st on HI/O.

      Go Habs Go!!!

  7. Propwash says:

    Im a victim of sexual abuse as a child. I don’t want to put this out in a ***king hockey blog as much as the next guy, people need to step back, and look at the broader picture. The victim is living of fear of being exposed. Exposed to what? Exposed to have being weak… a low life…a walking, breathing piece of sh1t. Nobody taking you seriously. Looked upon as another excuse to move you through the ranks.

    The jackoffs who have never experienced being victimized need to take a step back and go eff themselves because they will never know the pain that some have gone through to fulfill the wants/needs of others to make themselves feel like better persons.

    And to this, I say, I wish I could confront my aggressors to this day, because they would fricking wind up in an emergency room, amongst their friends who would try to protect them.

    Being negative has its advantages,
    you’re never disappointed.

  8. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    I spent so much time schlagging Boone last week for his journalistic style, and even listed Hickey as an example of some good writing. I stand corrected, my issues with Mr. Boone now seeming somewhat trifling compared to this absurd piece by Hickey. Outrageous.

    It’d be unfortunate if someone else vandalized his car, at home this time.

  9. jmsheehy19 says:

    Hey serious, thanks for the report on the kids. How’s Nattinen coming along? Do you think he can be a factor on the fourth line in a few years? Have had a hockey crush on him since the last world juniors.

  10. bp says:

    Hey Rob, just wanted to say I saw your post retweeted on twitter and have to give props for pulling the column if there’s no apology or retraction.

    Not an easy thing to do but a good thing to do.

  11. Hobie Hansen says:


  12. On an unrelated note, what the blue hell was Patrick V. Hickey drinking/thinking when he wrote THIS!!!!!????

    The Gazette should pull this immediately! Until they do, this is my last post on HIO.


    Eyes on The Prize! and on Twitter

    • Chrisadiens says:

      Disgusting, I know. Scroll down to the bottom of the thread, there is a lot of discussion down there.

      Theo wants the Gazette to fire Hickey. At the very least a retraction/apology should be coming tomorrow.

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      I’m going to fellow Kevin’s lead on this actually. Uncomfortable yes, I like you guys but I have my ethics about these things and attacking Theo Fleury in this matter was frankly, abominable in my view.

      And furthermore, this will be the last time Habs Future is published at Hockey I/O if there’s no retraction/apology over this attack on a victim of sexual abuse. Unpleasant and I thank Mr. Boone for giving me this opportunity and I like you guys, but I have a prickly morals about some things and this crosses a line for me.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • habsfanforever7631 says:

        If there isn’t any apology, are you going to do your Habs future on another site? or your not going to do it at all?

      • Lazarus_taxa says:

        I’ve pretty much lost all respect for you. You have become Hard Habits. All these posters thinking they can control the opinions of others. I suggest you read a little history on journalism and free speech. If every writer at a newspaper expressed the same opinion or agreed with each other we wouldn’t have a free press. these type of outbursts are becoming common on this site, with everyone saying they won’t come anymore while doubling their post output. It is childish, pathetic and shows what everyone pretty much knows, you guys are all probably 16 year olds in mommy’s basement that go crying to mommy when you don’t get you freezie. If this is your attitude, and that goes to all the others complaining, then freakin leave.

    • Clay says:

      You people are acting like overly PC children. Hickey did not blame Fleury for being abused – he blamed him for hiring his abuser to coach other children. Huge difference between the two concepts. And Hickey is exactly correct to call this to attention.

      I will quote the pertinent paragraph for you, in case you missed it:

      “Nobody should question Fleury’s decision to remain silent. What should be questioned is Fleury’s continuing role in James’s life. At the time of Kennedy’s revelations, James was the coach of the Calgary Hitmen. He was one of the co-owners of the junior team in the Western Hockey League. One of the other owners was Theoren Fleury. Here was someone who had suffered abuse at the hands of Graham James. Here was someone who knew that James had abused other players. Here was someone who was exposing other children to the same sexual predator.

      Fleury has been through enough counselling to know there’s a word for someone who acts in this fashion – enabler. ”

      “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.” – Jean Beliveau.

      • G-Man says:

        You’re right. Too PC for words.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Except Clay, at the time this had happened do we know Fleury had already been through enough counselling, had he at that time been to any counselling? I am not taking a pitchfork to Mr Hickey but rather hoping that from this point more insight and discussion can take place. Why in the world would Fleury have not done more, there has to be reasons we don’t understand and/or know about.

        • Clay says:

          Sure – I agree with all of that. But calling the article ‘disgusting’? Threatening (like a child) to leave the site if a retraction/apology is not proffered? This is just a ridiculous knee-jerk (over)reaction.

          And you are correct in pointing out what we don’t know…but that doesn’t change what we do know – that Fleury knowingly hired a child molester to work with kids. This to me is just as ‘disgusting’ as what the molester did. Ask Joe Paterno.

          “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.” – Jean Beliveau.

  13. kakey says:

    The good old optimistic pre-season days: “Habs forward Mike Cammalleri feeling fitter, predicts best season ever” http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/41577-Habs-forward-Mike-Cammalleri-feeling-fitter-predicts-best-season-ever.html

  14. kakey says:

    Looking at this picture http://yfrog.com/h4pndczj I can’t help wondering, during their charitable trip to Haiti, what BGL might have said to PK regarding JM, who he’s not too fond of.

  15. boonie says:

    The Kings are mired in mediocrity after entertaining hopes of contending for the Stanley Cup, so they fired Murray.

    Lombardi said, “We hadn’t been playing up to the expectations…it’s harder at times to look for those victories within losses, and it’s just the state of the franchise right now. You can look for more of those things three years ago, but we’re trying to push to that next level, and it isn’t easy. It’s a lot easier playing with the house’s money. We’re at the stage where you’re going to be judged on wins and losses and playoff success.”

    Although Murray has a deserved reputation as an excellent defensive coach, he lost his job largely because the Kings have struggled to score goals despite boosting their payroll to its highest level in several years. …the 61-year-old’s impassive, stone-faced demeanour behind the bench sometimes appeared to be reflected in his Kings, who showed little passion for long stretches of the season.

    Murray went 139-106-30 with the Kings after taking over the club in 2008.  Murray was under contract through next season.


    Underperforming expectations
    Respected defensive and stoic coach under contract for one more year
    Struggling to score
    Four years into a rebuild
    No obvious replacement coach

    • naweed235 says:

      The kings Problem is lack of a real scoring winger. With Kopitar, Brown, Richards and Stoll they have depth in center that can be sacrificed in order to get that winger. As much as I hate to lose him, I think a trade involving Cammaleri and Brown would make sense for both teams.

      • jmsheehy19 says:

        Hasn’t Brown played wing his entire NHL career? Not arguing that they don’t have depth at center, I just wasn’t aware Brown was part of it. Also it would take more than Cammy to get Brown.

        And Murray is no surprise. The kings have looked great on paper for 3 years and can’t seem to put it together. He was second on my list of hot seat coaches after Boudreau. Both had a bevy of talent, and couldn’t meet expectations.

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      Deja vu all over again.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  16. ProHabs says:

    Part of Elliot Friedmans 30 thoughts:

    “11. In case there is any confusion, Pronger has been on the long-term injury list (retroactively) since November 19 – the last game he played. Depending on how long they think he’ll be out, it gives the Flyers an extra $5 million US in cap space.”

    Have the Canadians done this as well with Markov to get some extra cap space or is Habs management not proactive enough to think about doing something like this and wasting a chance to have some added cap space.

    • DearyLeary says:

      Two options:

      A) They truly believe Markov will be healthy. This is the best possible option because he will help the Canadiens more than anyone on the market right now. No discussion needed.

      B) Having doubts about Markov’s fitness makes for a murkier discussion. ‘Making’ cap space doesn’t make sense any more. This team minus Markov is not in the realm of contention. With no suitable replacements on the market (without sacrificing the long term future of the team, which I believe to be bright) there’s no reason to ‘use’ this cap space.

      It’s the same reason Gomez hasn’t been bought out, moved, or put into the minors (buying out would be an absolute disaster, but that’s another discussion). The hope is that his contract will be moved in the off-season to look for potential free agents. But to go out and look for an overpriced band-aid doesn’t help the team long term, and with highly degraded short term goals (due to the Markov injury) you don’t want to hinder your long term goals.

      So there’s absolutely no rush to clear up cap space, it’s not going to go to good use. While Kaberle is probably an upgrade on Spacek, I’m more concerned with the long term implications of having Kaberle around. I want to make sure guys like Price, PK, and Patches don’t want to jump town because they don’t have the space to accommodate all of them.

      There’s absolutely no rush to put Markov on the long term IR. There’s no need to make any more knee-jerk moves when it’s painfully obvious the team isn’t ready for a deep push into the playoffs.

    • montreal ace says:

      The Flyers are going to make an offer for Shea Weber, as soon as they can make the cap space. I find it weird that Pronger develops a concussion, while off for a knee injury and virus.

  17. habs-fan-84 says:

    Hey All! Long time reader, first time poster.

    I’ve delayed signing up for years as I thought I’d end up wasting even more time here than I already do lol. The catalyst for signing up however, is the fact that I’m heading to the game this Thursday against Philly. Heading up Wednesday night with some friends from the GTA. My question to the Montreal residents here is:
    where do we go for the best Poutine in Montreal?? Any suggestions are appreciated…Shiram, can you help me out?

    In any event here are my thoughts on the team thus far:

    Coming into the season I had great expectations. I figured this was the best team (on paper at least) that we’ve had in years. With the addition of Cole I figured we had two legitimate “power forwards” in the line up; the second naturally being Pacioretty. Pacioretty was on pace for 30 goals last year, and assuming he was fully recovered I figured he`d hit 30 this year. At the moment, Max is on pace, as hoped; unbelievable considering the nature of his injury. I was a big fan of the Cole signing, as I could still vividly remember his performance against us in the second round of the 2006 playoffs (who would have thought that after going up two games in Carolina, we`d return home to drop the next two, but I digress…). Unlike many, I believed Cole`s short stint in Edmonton was an unfair representation of his possible performance in Montreal (for a variety of reasons that have already been explored numerous times on this site).

    With Pierre finally able to coax Emelin into coming to Montreal this past summer, I was ecstatic at the prospect of finally seeing this guy play. Needless to say he`s met and exceeded expectations (at least mine).

    As for Gomez, I personally don`t hate the guy, in fact I actually find his interviews refreshing. I`d imagine having a guy like Gomez on your team would add chemistry to the overall environment; he has intangibles as they say. Now for the inevitable but…unfortunately, he has not lived up to expectations (to put it lightly). The problem is, I can`t hate on the guy, when he is on the ice I see lots of effort, sadly the results aren`t there, at least not yet. Fans will never be satisfied with him, and I get that. There really is no verb in the English language to truly describe just how bad his contract is; let`s just call it an albatross and move on. I`ve gotten over his contract and have now dramatically reduced my expectations of him. Contract aside he can be a useful player, he just needs to get his mojo back. Bottom line, he will never score 60 points again, I`ve accepted it, and thus moved on.

    Eller was also someone I had hoped to see big improvements in. Last year, although he did not have many points, what I saw – especially the last 25 – 30 games or so – was a big (relative) center who had terrific puck management skills. A solid two way player who could control the play and stick handle in a phone booth. Heading into this season I was hoping to see at least 10 – 15 goals. 15 goals and I`d be happy, enough so that he could improve on for next year. As of yet, he is still struggling to put up points on a regular basis, but I still do see lots of potential. I would love to see this kid on the Powerplay in place of Desharnais. While Desharnais has been great, I would prefer to see Eller`s superior stick handling abilities on the PP.

    Bottom line I had pretty high expectations heading into this season. I expected Montreal to compete for home ice in the playoffs – perhaps I was completely out to lunch in the first place, however, as my writing may suggest, I`m a glass is half full kind of guy.

    I still believe in this team. I like the Kaberle signing – I think it`s ludicrous to write Kaberle off based on his last 35 games or so. In doing so, you`re completely ignoring the hundreds of games he`s played up until that point. He can, and will help the PP. Also, people have to realize that just because his contract is 3 years does not mean he`s here for 3 years Kaberle is still an asset that many GMs would covet assuming they had the depth on D to use him in the right situations, or with the appropriate linemate(s).

    There is still lots of hockey left. Anyone calling for this team to tank this early in the season is nuts (IMHO). Was it not just last year around this time when Washington had lost something like 8 or 9 games in a row, and eventually turned it on in the second half of the year to overtake Philly and finish first…Sure the inevitable comeback for the naysayers will be “the Montreal Canadiens are not the Washington Capitals“ – a fine argument, but the principal remains the same, in a league of parity, anything can happen. We can go on a winning streak. One thing to keep in mind is the fact that we`ve yet to be blown out. Almost every single game we`ve lost has been by a goal or two. We have “been“ in almost every game this year with the exception of a couple. A few extra goals on the PP this year and we easily could be sitting with an additional 6 – 8 points.

    Here`s hoping the New Year brings the success we`ve all been hoping for.

    Cheers all,

    • Chrisadiens says:

      Welcome to the insanity! Shiram recommends Chez Claudette for poutine. I haven’t been there yet, planning on going there this weekend though.

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        Great, thanks.

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Psst, HF-84. Watch out for guys who welcome you to the site. Not saying there’s anything wrong with it. There’s a great bunch of fellas who post here. But if one of them starts asking your age and how your organs are and suggesting the two of you get together for a coffee, don’t respond. Only communicate with guys you can trust. Hope I’ve set you straight.

          BTW how is your liver?

          — “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.” —

          (Oh yeah, you need to come up with a signature. Something catchy. Something like: “HF-84. Blood type [insert blood type] since [insert date of birth])

  18. AceMagnum says:

    Seriously, is that the only photograph of Palushaj in existence??

    Consider photoshopping his head over a pic of D’Agostini

  19. JohnBellyful says:

    I think the team and fans should divorce themselves from thinking in terms of line combinations because, let’s face it, the only time three players actually play in a linear way is when they line up for a faceoff (or, in the case of the Canadiens, when they congregate behind the opposition’s net). After that it’s the System that takes over.
    The line, however, doesn’t operate in a vacuum. In theory, the line works with the defence at both ends of the ice. The Russians had it right when they thought of five-man unit combinations. The Habs should do the same, in an X configuration.
    Some might say this is nothing more than a 2-1-2 deployment but if we draw a line diagonally from A through C to E, and D through C to B, you end up with an X and a new way of looking at the game.
    The X factor — the unknown — can be a much more intimidating force than the System, which sounds and is boring and bureaucratic. X is a System with attitude. Opponents would panic, not knowing what to expect, especially if the unit advances up ice in a rotating fashion, with D moving into A’s spot and A over to B, etc, while C holds down the centre.
    The stratagem has been tested in scrimmages conducted in seclusion and the results have been promising, drawing praise from myriad xperts: “Xcellent” (Monte Burns). “Thumbs up!” (X-Men). “—” (Harpo MarX).
    Here are my X combinations:
    Cammalleri —– Gionta
    Xcuse me, the phone just rang, I’ll finish this later.

    • Chuck says:

      Pshaw. Good try, but nothing new here. I devised this same System–“X-Factor”, if you will–but with the X rotating counter-clockwise… now THAT was something!

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Counter-clockwise! [smacks head] But that seems counter-intuitive! [punches palm] Won’t that send the players back into time …back… into… time…BRILLIANT! [look of amazement]
        Chuck, phone JM right away!!! Game 7, first round, Bruins. This time it’s gonna be different.
        Boys, all the anger and finger pointing that goes on here is about to go out the window. One of our own has just won the Habs their 25th Cup. [idiotic grin]
        I am so proud of you, Chuck (you don’t mind me calling you Chuck, do you, Chuck?) [eyes pleading]

  20. V says:

    Just read the Hickey article on Fleury. Nothing new to add… as surprised and dismayed as those who wrote earlier.

    There is a part of me that commends Hickey for trying to write about this, assuming his intentions are nobel. Afterall, there is an important story in the relationship between a victim and their abuser especially when one is a young player and the other his coach.

    But that article is not the story that relationship deserves. Too bad.

  21. Natty-Dread says:

    Just found this, solid message from the fans – possible the Habs could use one?


  22. Ian Cobb says:

    – He was hit also near the boards, not to the head, but sufficient force to jar his head. It does not take much once concussed as he was.

  23. Say Ash says:

    I may have counted wrong but assuming they lose again tonight, TB will have gone 4-11-0 since Philly showed them up.

  24. So on a hockey note. A lot of us have been complaining about this trade. Let’s remember a good trade. Rivet for gorges and patches.

    We do win one on occasion.


  25. JohnBellyful says:

    Sorry for the interruption. I’m just conducting a test on the placement of characters in a post.
    A B
    Hmmmm, just as I thought.

  26. Ian Cobb says:

    Crosby,s career at 24 is over, It is just that he has not faced the reality of it yet. Once brain cells are dead they do not repair. Bettman won’t by into it yet ether. Money does funny things to people’s minds as well.!!!!!

    Here it is again folks!

    After concussion, severe depression and it kills.!

    What is a concussion, as comprehended and explained by myself.

    I have been involved as a lay person with research pertaining to neurology at a major medical university.

    I have picked up a lot of information working first with veterinarian pathologists when I was doing research on my fox and mink ranch with calcium.

    And I have been involved lately with the neurology research dept from a major medical university. Only as the handler of the research birds involved in the study. So I do not profess to be an expert on the subject

    Pertaining to concussion,

    I will try to explain, the best that I can, what happens to the brain cells that have been concussed inside the skull. And why one must stay completely resting after a concussion.

    The very soft brain cells, when violently thrown against the skull, are damaged and the neuron releases a potassium chemical out of the brain cell. Leaving a void.

    Calcium that is already present around the outside of the cells, seeps into the cells replacing the potassium. This calcium is what gives the chemical imbalance to the brain and is what causes the damage.

    Until all of this calcium leaves the brain cells completely, and it can take a long time, depending on how much calcium was taken on each cell. The patient is left extremely vulnerable to instant death upon a second bump, or at least permanent brain damage.

    Even a hard coughing spell or light exercise can cause severe pain and damage. Complete rest is needed.

    These damaged cells have to be cleared completely of this calcium before one can resume activity to avoid more serious consequences including death.

    This is very acute in young people under the age of 24 as the brain is still growing and developing.

    Please, coaches and parents know this, every severe contact to the head can cause some cells to expel potassium and take on calcium. A second, even slight bump, with the cells still containing calcium, can be even more deadly.

    Ian Cobb

    • Habfan10912 says:

      It is a sad day for hockey if true.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      A little early to call it on Crosby Ian.

      It’s definitely not a happy situation right now, but players do make comebacks. Patrice Bergeron spent 10 months trying to recover from a concussion that had his career in jeopardy and it took him a while after that playing to restore himself to his best form. I don’t like writing epitaphs on players when they’re still working to make their comebacks.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • Ian Cobb says:

        I know about the comebacks Robert, but the cells that are now dead in his skull, do not get turned back on my friend.

        The contrary is the case. All cells that still have calcium in them will also die with contact, the calcium solidifies when bumped again killing more cells.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          I know those cells don’t come back, but the brain does have an ability to restore/rewire itself. Otherwise people wouldn’t recover from brain trauma and would just be as is.

          Issue for Crosby will be to take his time. If he can’t continue, he can not but I’d rather believe that he can come back.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
          SF09 on Twitter

          • Ian Cobb says:

            I am sure going to miss watching him out on the ice. But until they get rid of the armor on the shoulders and elbows, plus get some respect back in the game, we are going to lose kids to brain damage.

          • Mattyleg says:

            Ian, I thought that it was a lower-body thing from crashing into his teammate.
            I’m not diminishing the concussion he suffered, but I thought it was another injury.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Habfan4lfe says:

      Ya I think his career is over too. Sad too. I still think comebacks are possible since he is still young. But I was thinking if it took that long to come back the first time, you have to wonder. He suffered a brain injury. This isn’t like a kick to the pecker. The NHL has to be harder on hitting. These delayed hits and stuff after the puck has gone has got to stop. In my opinion that’s just roughing. I can see a hit the second a shoots the puck but when we are talking 3-4+ seconds, that bs. Emelin is a icon right now in the NHL to me, this guy knows not only when to hit but HOW to hit. Subban was great hitting too, reason he has so many enemies. But Jacques has calmed the animal in him which I am sure he will do to Emelin and that’s too bad because Emelin really is that player who knows how to hit and hit fair. He should be allowed to show others by example. Hitting is part of the game but if you are gonna be a cheap prick about it, you just get your arse booted out of the NHL. Sparked a nerve after I read your post, even more so that the spark I get when I see JM.

    • a bit early but i feel where you’re coming from, tonight’s midnite misquote is gonna be for Sid the Kid.


  27. tbovs says:

    All I know is that this summer there is going to be more housecleaning than we think there will be. Gomez will not be around next year … thats 100%. He will either be bought out or traded. Cammi will only be traded if we can get a sniper in return. Pierre and Jacque will survive the year but until decent replacements are found and put in place….nothing will happen. It is 100% certain that PG and JM will not be back if we don’t make the playoffs. So this year could end up being huge for the habs….See I like Jim Nill as GM and either Larry Robinson as coach or Marc Crawford. I think that those are viable replacements so it remains to be seen but I hope things change for the better….all I want is Gomez off theh books either buy out or trade but with him gone you need to get a true number one centre who can score and be a leader on the team. No one in our farm system is ever gonna fill that role. So go find us a corner stone in the summer PG or your more capable replacement.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Hoiw will the Canadiens get a sniper in exchange for Mike Cammalleri, a currently unproductive sniper?

      How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?


    • Benoitr says:

      I don’t see why you lose sleep about having Gomez on the books. He was the only one that would come here then (actually he got traded here). And when you get all this disposable money when he’s gone, you won’t have any free agents that want to come here. Get over Gomez’s contract, it’s not his fault he was overpaid. He can help this team this year if the fans just chill.

      • VancouverHab says:

        Hey hey! More fact and common sense about Gomez. The H-I/O commentors have a way better ratio (and that, alas, is poor enough) for that than the media pros in Montreal.


    • VancouverHab says:

      The Molsons have told you their plans for Gomez have they?

      Because otherwise “that’s 100%” = “that’s my pure speculation based on 0% knowledge.”

  28. ProHabs says:

    5 NHL coaches fired already this year. Who will go next. Boucher, Martin, Todd McLellan.

  29. wild flower says:

    Maybe Pierre can take on Yzerman as an assistant.

  30. wild flower says:

    Maybe Jacque can make everyone happy and hire Guy Boucher to be his assistant, or maybe he can go back to Hamilton.

  31. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Looking forward to see Gallagher scorin some goals through the holidays!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Yes sir. I am too. Always enjoy the World Jr. Tournament and with a few future Habs, it should be even better.

    • Le Jadester says:

      Totally !
      Really want to see Beaulieu too. He actually impressed me the most in the pre season. Although, if Gallagher wasn’t so unlucky with ringin’ the iron, he would have been the top scorer for the Habs in Pre season, No ?

      Habs, OLE !

  32. I think maybe sports blogs aren’t the place to talk about child molestation. But that’s just me.

  33. ProHabs says:

    Wow Pat Hickey, You are one old fool.

    Do you have any idea what Fleury was thinking since his junior days. I am sure every day was a living hell for him. Fleury was not ready to deal with his issues while in the NHL and was probably being blackmailed by James. Easy for you Hickey to be a hero and judge other people from a distance.

    • G-Man says:

      Wow. And she accuses Hickey of going over the top.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Two things.

      1- If I had been one of those that had been abused by Graham James, I wouldn’t go into business with him later in Life.

      2- Once again Sheldon Kennedy is the forgotten man.

      Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Headshot League.

      • VancouverHab says:

        1. How do you know what you’d do or how you’d act if you were sexually abused as a youth? Adults who were molested as children kill themselves because of it for *&^*!&’s sakes.

        This is a massive moral issue of perhaps the greatest evil, requiring intense sensitivity and delicacy — and some sportwriter gives a glib sneer to a victim? That’s cretinous by most people’s standards of behavior….

        • ZepFan2 says:

          “Adults who were molested as children kill themselves because of it for *&^*!&’s sakes.”

          Exactly. So why would one go into a business venture with the person that abused you?

          Btw, while you were frothing at the mouth over this issue. Did you remember what Sheldon Kennedy had to endure, or is he the forgotten man?

          Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Headshot League.

          • VancouverHab says:

            On Sheldon Kennedy–you are so right. I remember when that all came out: that’s the bravery that won wars. He should not be forgotten, and apologies for any culpable lack of mention on my part — & kudos for you for keeping the light shining there.

            Why a childhood victim would or wouldn’t do anything with his abuser as an adult is totally unknown to me — as all legacies of evil are unknown to me. But no way will I judge or criticise what the poor victim does in his pain…. Stockholm Syndrome perhaps? I just don’t know…& can’t BEGIN to imagine…

  34. Timo says:

    The future is not about who is in the players’ pipeline… it’s about who is at the helm of the organization… and it’s looking bleak.

  35. HabinBurlington says:

    Kirk Muller on the radio here in Toronto today. Listen to him talk about the style of hockey he wants to play. Hmmmm I can just imagine the conversations Kirk and JM had regarding playing styles.


    • Le Jadester says:

      I watched the interview he did with the CBC clowns during the 2nd intermission and thought Muller is the $hit ! The guy is just too good, as I remembered him as a player and as a coach. I hope nothing but the best for him and if he wins a cup for another team part of me will be very happy and the other part will be wanting to take a pitchfork to the goat for letting him go (I do understand the circumstances and why he left). But if anything, he should have been the guy we were grooming to be head coach of the team, not Carbo IMO. Hindsight is 20/20 obviously. Either way, if the Goat was smart, he would have arranged something where, once Jay Mart was axed, automatically in comes Kirkie ! I could live with his development as a coach for a season or two because if there is anyone who could bring us to the promise land of a 25th cup…..I would bet it would be him way before JM. He just seems like the kinda guy players would take a bullet for ?

      Habs, OLE !

  36. VancouverHab says:

    OK: If Don Cherry had said on Coach’s Corner what Pat Hickey just wrote in the Gazette, Cherry would be front page news across the country and lead TV news story every day nonstop until he was fired: which would be tomorrow, by the bye.

    Now all you cerasusphobe Gazette writers, let’s see if sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander….

    PS: ‘preciate the great work SF09 — I’ll be watching Gallagher over the Christmas break….

    • Everlasting1 says:

      Settle down. Said article should not be so sensationalized. It does have a point.

      “For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will smite all the first-born in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the Gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the LORD.” Exodus 12:12

      “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Oh okay, now that we have settled down, please enlighten me or us with what the point is.

      • VancouverHab says:

        It does have a point. It states the point in cold print. The journalist’s point is that the child victim of a sexual predator himself enabled — that is, is himself at fault for — his own sexual abuse.

        What could be — Hell, what could one imagine to be — a more sensationalisable point than that?

        Again, my thought experiment: ask yourself if you would be giving Don Cherry the same latitude had he (per impossible) said what the journalist wrote….

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          “The journalist’s point is that the child victim of a sexual predator himself enabled — that is, is himself at fault for — his own sexual abuse.”

          Read it again. That is most definitely not what Hickey wrote or implied.

          • VancouverHab says:

            Okay — I did.

            The journalist says that that the word to describe Fluery is “Enabler”.

            An enabler, assuming that a journalist can be said to understand or even care about the meaning of a word, denotes in the context of abuse one who acts in such a way as to initiate, or perpetuate, his abuser’s behavior: that is, the enabler shares (or owns) the guilt for his own suffering. Enablement, of course, is a depraved concept.

            That the journalist (to allow him for your argument’s sake the least available degree of malevolent stupidity in his meaning) was referring to action by the abused (Mr. Fluery) toward his abuser in years after the actual acts, alters the signification of the term “enabler” not one jot.

            For it is one (and just one) of the manifold evils of childhood sexual abuse that it warps and tortures the abused child in perpetuation through adulthood, and the abuser, insofar as he remains in contact as his victim grows up (however so tortuously) to adulthood, sustains, refines, and even increases thereby the horrors of the original abuse.

            And that, my Nietzschean friend, is “most definitely” what the journalist wrote and, not implied but, openly stated.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I did not know the story about Fleury being part owner of the Hitmen and James still a coach.

      However, I am not sure Hickey or any of us understand how awful it is what Fleury and others went through, and the difficulty one has to deal with it afterwards. I think more proof of how longterm the damage these sickos to do children, and how the pain is longterm and haunts these kids when they become adults.

      Not sure I understand why Hickey wants to go this direction, perhaps there is some past history between Fleury the player and Hickey the journalist.

      Just overall sad these creeps exist and worse they dont get heavy punishment, at least in my opinion.

  37. Everlasting1 says:

    The LA Kings fire their HC Terry Murray.

    “For I will go through the land of Egypt on that night, and will smite all the first-born in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the Gods of Egypt I will execute judgments: I am the LORD.” Exodus 12:12

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  38. HardHabits says:

    If Aaron Palushaj is the Habs #1 prospect the Habs Future is bleak indeed.

    Habs better trade for or sign some more over-the-hill and expensive UFA’s.

  39. Habfan10912 says:

    Thanks again Robert. Always look forward to your weekly summary of our up and coming future Han’s.

  40. Chrisadiens says:

    Yikes Pat Hickey. What were you thinking?


    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  41. Sharks9 says:

    What do you think of Gallagher, Beaulieu and Bournival’s chances at making the Canadian team?

    25 before 14

    • Saundies says:

      I’m not too sure about Bournival, although I heard he was one of the last cuts last year. I think Gallagher’s a lock though (the coach of the WJ team’s his head coach) and Beaulieu will put up a good fight to crack the top 6 D (who will be EXTREMELY deep this year). They had their first intrasquad game last night and it said on TSN that he was one of the ones who stood out, so that’s a good sign.

      If he doesn’t earn a spot in the top six, I’d be willing to bet some money they take him as the 7th defenseman and use him on the powerplay.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Gallagher is considered close to a lock, Beaulieu I’ve read is considered high probability but camp performance would go a long way to putting him on the roster, he plays very well and he can make the roster but competition amongst defencemen is heavy. Bournival is a bit trickier as he’s an checking forward and while a good character guy, there are a lot of those invited each time. If he can dominate faceoffs, that would really help him out as he’s a natural C.

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      • GrimJim says:

        Sports radio here in Calgary are covering the camp pretty extensively and the morning guys said that Beaulieu’s and his partner were the best defensive pair on the ice at Monday’s scrimmage even though they didn’t get on the scoresheet.

    • tbovs says:

      Bournival maybe be hard pressed…because he is good on faceoffs might be his saving grace but the other two are almost surefire…Galagher for sure because ofthe Don Hay connection and Beaulieu has had a good camp so far. ….. soooo we may have all 3 but there is a good bet wewill have 2 for sure.

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