Gionta’s season is over; Prust, White out for Game 5; Price listed as day-to-day

The Canadiens returned home following Tuesday night’s 3-2 overtime loss to the Senators in Game 4 of their Eastern Conference quarterfinal series in Ottawa.

Down 3-1 in the series, the Canadiens will be facing elimination in Game 5 Thursday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

The Canadiens announced Wednesday that captain Brian Gionta will undergo surgery on Friday to repair a torn left bicep and will not return this season. Brandon Prust and Ryan White will both miss Thursday’s game with upper-body injuries, while goalie Carey Price is listed as day-to-day with a lower-body injury. Gionta had surgery on his right bicep last season.

Hear what Gionta had to say Wednesday about his injury by clicking here.

Hear what goalie Peter Budaj, who replaced the injured Price in overtime Tuesday, had to say Wednesday by clicking here.

The Canadiens held a team stretching session Wednesday afternoon in Brossard, while goalies Budaj and Robert Mayer hit the ice for a practice session along with Mike Blunden, Yannick Weber, Tomas Kaberle and Davis Drewiske. Lars Eller skated alone earlier Wednesday for the first time since being injured in Game 1 from a check by Eric Gryba, who was suspended for two games by the NHL. Eller was briefly hospitalized after suffering a loss of consciousness, a concussion, and facial and dental fractures from the hit.

Defenceman Josh Gorges felt the Canadiens sat back too much while trying to protect a 2-0 lead in the third period of Game 4 in Ottawa.

 “We sat back,” Gorges told reporters after the game. “We were all right, We got pucks when we needed to, but then we allowed them to come into our zone too easily and then there was a scramble at the end. We did some good things but we didn’t win.”

Habs lose in OT, go down 3-1, by Pat Hickey

No icing on this cake, by Pat Hickey

Price hurting, Canadiens hurting, by Dave Stubbs

Kerry Fraser says Senators goal shouldn’t have counted, by Stu Cowan

Game 4 photo gallery

Subban focused on team, not awards, by Dave Stubbs

Senators lead series 3-1, NHL.com

Against the wall, canadiens.com

Montreal-area Sens fan gets royal treatment, The Canadian Press

Bad to worse for the Canadiens, Ottawa Citizen

Lady luck is wearing a Senators sweater, Ottawa Citizen

Sens have Habs on the ropes, Ottawa Sun

Subban gets people talking, Ottawa Sun

Latendresse remains out of Sens lineup, Ottawa Sun

(Photo by Sean Kilpatrick/The Canadian Press)

 

 

723 Comments

  1. Fraser on TSN 690!

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  2. fastfreddy says:

    When the Habs replace Diaz, Gorges, Markov(too slow), Boullion, then their goalies will play with more confidence.

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  3. munch17 says:

    As upset as I am about last night’s game – and it’s pretty bad- I am still peeved about game 3.
    In particular – within the first 30 seconds of the game – PK was cross-checked to the head.
    The refs turned a blind eye – basically saying it is open season on Habs star. We were subsequently 2 men short on minor doubtful calls.
    I don’t understand how Prust has been called for everything and that dangerous obvious infraction was not called. The rest of the game deteriorated as a result.
    Thanks for listening – I got it out of my system.

  4. commandant says:

    Even Fraser sees it, the Habs got screwed.

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  5. matt jordan says:

    Anyone still think this team has enough size? LOL. It’s just like defending Pierre Gauthier last season, it’s a long running joke that’s only funny to the other 29 teams in the league. At least the Canadiens have Tinordi now so Carey Price (THE F&$*ING GOALIE) isn’t their biggest player anymore.

    Hopefully Bergevin can see this, unlike the other GM’s of the last 20 years, and add some muscle to the lineup in the offseason. This has gone on way to long. The Habs must get bigger.

    • commandant says:

      Its always the same two complaints from Habs fans… size and goaltending.

      Did you really think our rebuild was done?

      Did you think Bergevin could turn this team around over night.

      I don’t think anyone said this team had enough size, just said that this year wasn’t the year to do it. And honestly adding one player like Ryan Clowe for 3 draft picks wouldn’t have been near enough. This is going to be a process in turning over the roster.

      Thankfully we have 3 picks in the top 40 of a draft filled with big forwards.

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      • Loonie says:

        Never mind that the two forwards we have who are always around the net are two of our smallest in Gionta and Gallagher.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Ryan Clowe is injured currently and hasn’t played a playoff game.

        He was acquired for 2 draft picks ( a second, a third) with a conditional 2nd if he resigns.

        A healthy Clowe I would have on my team any day. The east is becoming so tough not to mention teams like St Louis and LA. That series has been unreal to watch. I think who ever comes out will win the cup.

        Even if we were healthy the current habs roster could not contend for the cup…neither can Ottawa

        MB will be shaking up the roster some more in the off season.

        It is too bad we didn’t pick up torres though cause he has been very effective so far in San Jose. MB did try we just didn’t get him

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • fastfreddy says:

      Budaj, Price, will it really matter that much when you have Diaz and Gorges clearing the net?

      CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  6. ed says:

    upon further review….Kerry Fraser is bang on. Man. This league sucks! No other way to put it. Pure Garbage!

    “ Mika Zibanejad did NOT utilize a natural stopping motion with his left skate as he entered Carey Price’s goal crease and focused on the incoming puck. Instead Zibanejad demonstrated a turn of that skate toward the net coupled with a distinct forward motion toward the goal as he contacted the puck. NO GOAL!”

    • Loonie says:

      Exactly right. I mentioned it this morning. When he turned his outside leg inward he was focused on kicking the puck into the net and less on stopping.

      That inward turn of his outside leg made it clear that the kick occurred and wasn’t part of his stop.

      • Ton says:

        so why did this happen…..i don’t understand how they come to the wrong decision?? time………they needed to make a quick decision…….I don’t understand it. A good old fashion f*****g!

      • D Mex says:

        Video shows the left leg followed thru on the kicking motion, while the right leg did not.
        That’s because the left leg had zero to do with stopping – all of the braking was actioned by the right leg IMO.

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        D Mex

      • adamkennelly says:

        depends on your definition of “kick” – they write the rule so its open to interpretation…and they can justify a decision either way – to suit the call on the ice.

    • It’s like no one in that room(Toronto) last night ever played!

      sholi2000.com May 8, 2013 at 8:05 am
      I look at the first goal and to me as a player, there is no way he moves his skate like that to slide stop. You may turn and angle a deflection but he turned, angled and kicked with a follow through and his foot actually comes off the ice! No one stops like that.
      I hate quoting myself but that call erks me to no end.

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  7. habs1992 says:

    I still feel the pain from yesterday, time to go ease the pain.

    I support Carey Price

  8. frontenac1 says:

    Sweet Hands Blunden and Noke! Make it so Mike!

  9. Dave Jones says:

    Series is not done yet. Tough to imagine that a very good Ottawa team doesn’t have another win in them. But, it is also impossible to ignore that the Habs have been the better team for most of this series. We can win on Thursday; no reason to think otherwise.

  10. Mustang says:

    OK, here is an “if you were the coach” question. It now appears that Price will not play in game 5 tomorrow night. Assuming that the Habs win (I sure hope they do win) and Price is ready to play in game 6 Saturday night; as coach, who do you start Budaj or Price?

    Personally I don’t care who starts as long as the Habs get a win.

    • veryhabby says:

      Lets worry about winning game 5 first before we worry about healthy Price.

    • Seps says:

      Depends how Budaj plays, if he stands on his head (which is very very rare in his career) then he gets game 6. If it’s just a standard 3-2 win where he plays average you gotta play Price IMO.

      • Ton says:

        how you can you say rare………what’s his record this year………he stole a couple in boston this year!

        • Seps says:

          According to Price critic’s it’s not a steal if the tendy lets in more than a goal, so no those weren’t steals. Unless the rules are different if it’s not Carey in net. Also take a peak at his career like I said, those games are rare.

    • D Mex says:

      If Habs make it to Game #6, Budaj helped get them there due to an injury serious enough to keep Price out of Game #5. This provides the face-saving necessary for the Price situation.

      So, to answer the question :
      You go with Budaj because (a) he just pitched a winner, and (b) there is less pressure on him (and the organization) because Price is not 100% healthy.

      Assuming a Game #7, see above. There’s precedent for this, including decades ago, when Gump Worsely came off the bench and did the job when Charlie Hodge faltered and dug a hole. Most of the Habs braintrust is a bit young to remember this, tho LOL ;-)

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  11. twilighthours says:

    And yeah, Kevin Weekes did nail the Gionta issue a few days ago.

  12. Dr.Rex says:

    Imagine if the Booins lost a game like that last night. Julien would hold a presser about integrity of officiating, CHiarelli would hold a presser about how he thought he had a deal in place with the refs before the game but they decided to go with Pittsburgh at the last moment. Marchand would have a presser about CLASS. Chara would begin to have a presser but then dehydrated. Lucic would attempt to have a presser but nobody could understand what he was saying….like usual. Ference would have a presser but it would be cut short due to a zipper malfunction. Chara would not have a presser later since he was busy at his other job answering the door for the Addams family.

  13. habsinnyc says:

    I never liked it when Kerry Fraser was the ref for Habs games. He played too much of a role in the outcome of too many games (like the one when MT got the bench minor against Carolina). But I really like his “C’Mon Ref” blog on the TSN website.

    Below is the link to his column today, in which he explains why Ottawa’s first goal should not have been allowed. Even more amazing to me than the missed analysis is the point of the last three paragprahs –

    • habsinnyc says:

      Sorry all. I hit submit too early.

      Kerry points out that the staffing of the situation room — the people who make critical decisions on the interpreation of important rules — ARE NOT TRAINED AS REFERRES!!!

      What a great system!!

      Here’s Kerry’s column:

      http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=422689

      • Dr.Rex says:

        There are from Toranna……Are they trained for anything?

        • bel33 says:

          Now now… we all aren’t dumb Leaf fans here in Toronto. The city itself is great to live in.

          Kerry’s bang on… as well as where he said the on-ice officials should have somewhere to go to review the call like the NFL does. It’s there job… let them make the decision.

          • Habs1st says:

            I liked that point as well… that the on ice officials should review the play. He also raised another good one… there should be a former referee in the “war room in Toronto”!

    • Strummer says:

      Kerry Fraser was good to the Habs vs Nordiques in ’87

      ” As the teams faced off against each other again in the playoffs in 1987, the Canadiens were looking to knock off their rivals from the provincial capital for the third consecutive postseason. With the series tied at two for the division title, the Habs were saved by a call from referee Kerry Fraser. Tied 2-2 at the end of the third period, the Nordiques’ Alain Côté had his goal called back by Fraser for goaltender interference on netminder Brian Hayward. A few minutes later, Ryan Walter found the back of the net, sealing the deal for Montreal. They went on to close out the series four days later.”

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  14. veryhabby says:

    No excuses, but just wondering….

    Is there any other playoff team who has lost 5 regular players since the playoffs started? Not talking about injuries heading into playoffs (ie emelin, Spezza etc).
    Eller, Gionta, Prust, white, Price

    Plus add to that an injured and totall ineffective Pac.

    Any team that deep to survive a series with so many injuries? Others may say, “But none are stars, other players need to step up.” Well outside of Price, yes non are stars but this team wins cause of it’s team gameplan. It has never been based on a player or a line to carry it. Every player has a part in every outcome. That’s how this team plays this year.

  15. habstrinifan says:

    Josh Gorges will make a great analyst. Not so good a play by play guy!

  16. MikeHabs says:

    The boys aren’t done yet but it won’t be easy, especially with the injuries. Habs have played well in 3 out of 4 games and arguably should be in a better position than down 3-1. Was that a kick in last night? Most certainly. A number of angles indicate that fact. We can’t do anything about it. Montreal has to take one game at a time and hopefully they get more games than just tomorrow.

    A good read: “Our Greatest Weakness Lies in Giving Up: The Mindset the Canadiens Must Have for Next Game” http://www.allaboutthehabs.ca/our-greatest-weakness-lies-in-giving-up-the-mindset-the-canadiens-must-have/

  17. Dr.Rex says:

    HOW quickly history can escape our “Live for now, its all about me, I want more polluted minds”. But here is a quick recap of the last decade that will help us sleep a little better tonight.

    April 2010 : Habs had just taken another beating from the Caps to fall down 3-1 in the series. We were heading back to Washington for game 5 and nobody expected another game in Montreal that year. BUt low and behold someway, somehow we were able to fight back and win the series. WE beat the number 1 team. That odds were a lot bigger against us in that match up then this one.

    April 2004: Alex Kovalev had just embellished a slash and pathetically fell into SOuray causing a clear break for GLen Murray to win the game in ot. Instead of being tied like we should of been we ere down 3-1. SOUND FAMILIAR? IT was a crushing loss considering we played a great game and let them tie Knuble tie it in the dying secs. IT was clearly a divided dressing room after the game and the team was beaten on the scoreboard and in the locker room. BUT, Theodore and others came to play in game 5, Koivu spirited the team in game 6 and back in Beantown THeo and Zednik lead to way to a amazing comeback

    The odds of coming back this year down 3-1 are a lot better then they were both of those series. Despite the injuries and bad breaks this team has the spirit . And who knows maybe we can even get a full PP one of these games. OH and play Galchenyuk once in awhile, that might help.

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  19. ihabto says:

    We’ve still got a chip and a chair. Not gonna quit cheering yet.

  20. JohnBellyful says:

    We Hab fans are feeling really down today, what with the team battered and trailing 3-1 in the series, but I have it on pretty good authority that the Canadiens will recover and go on to win their 25th championship – this year!
    How can I be so sure?
    I heard it straight from Stanley Cup’s lips (and, boy, does Stan have a set of pipes. And there’s no clangers.)

  21. Propwash says:

    When it rains, it pours on the Habs.

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  22. Rounder499 says:

    Oh please. Blaming it on the Refs? Pathetic. How did they manipulate the Line Brawl in Game three where all Habs lost their individual fight? They are too small with limited talent but they will win Game 5

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Not blaming the series on the refs….just last night’s game.

      Go Habs Go!!

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    • jrshabs1 says:

      ..troll

      Go Habs Go!!

    • sprague cleghorn says:

      Member since April 21, 2013

      … ‘ow could we forget that?

    • Dr.Rex says:

      Imagine if the Booins lost a game like that last night. Julien would hold a presser about integrity, CHiarelli would hold a presser about how hw thought he had a deal in place with the refs before the game but they decided to go with Pittsburgh at the last moment. Marchand would have a presser about CLASS. Chara would begin to have a presser but then dehydrated. Lucic would attempt to have a presser but nobody could understand what he was saying….like usual. Ference would have a presser but it would be cut short due to a zipper malfunction. Chara would not have a presser since he was busy at his other job answering the door for the Addams family.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      how pathetic can you be if you have time to search out a team you don’t cheer for and then post bullshit comments. I am glad I value the minutes in my life a lot more than you do.

      Keep wasting it bud

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • jrs10069 says:

      They manipulated the penalties that got called after the brawl…no reason we should have been on the pk after that but guess what. Anyone who says the refs haven’t f’d us completely in this series doesn’t understand the game period. Happy to sit down and watch on replay to point all the incidents out if you’d like.

      jrs10069

  23. Storman says:

    Holy Crap Kristo just scored , play is still going on they will have to review that , what a ffffffff shot, he may have just rung iron twice on the same shift,, what a release,, bye bye Ryder, they just reviewed it , hit the bar but what a rocket of a snap shot, same shift after he rockets one off the crossbar he deflects one off the post…

    • johnnylarue says:

      Kristo’s a keeper. Awesome speed, great wrister. Good vision.

      He’s a leader, too (in spite of his off-ice frat-boy shenanigans).

      • Storman says:

        Everyone party’s in College no biggie, that is far gone he is turning into a professional now, work ethic and dedication needed to be a pro has been infused into him by his own entourage agents etc.., his head coach in North Dakota Dave Hakstol has not one bad thing to say about his work ethic on or off the ice,,For a stud offensive talent he works so hard on his defensive responsibilities as well..

  24. Phil C says:

    I would just like to point out that all of the injured Habs are their bigger players except for Gionta, and Gionta’s injury didn’t come from being hit. The smaller players are doing fine. I agree that the Habs need to get bigger, especially on defense, but it has nothing to do with the current injury problem, unless you are trying to say that bigger physical players are more prone to injury, then you might be on the something.

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  27. Steeltown Hab says:

    Logic says Leblanc makes his return to the lineup.

    Who dresses in your opinion? LL, Bournival or Nokelainen?

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  28. deuce6 says:

    Habs have signed G Mike Condon..

  29. Storman says:

    Anaheim Ducks will have to move a goalie in the near future John Gibson is an absolute stud 100% star in the making,, will be there goalie of the future very very soon,.John Gibson, Jacob Trouba, and Danny Kristo,, 3 of the most impressive Americans in today’s game against Finland,,

  30. twilighthours says:

    First time logging in today, and immediately the sadness returns. Man Montreal may not deserve this series but I’m not sure Ottawa does, either. They’ll get theirs before too long.

    Question, probably been answered: is Gionta’s injury the same as last year’s?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Torn bicep, other arm.

      ****************
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      –Mike Boone

      • johnnylarue says:

        Disclaimer: not trying to stir the pot here–and I don’t judge whatsoever.

        But is there any truth to torn biceps being a common injury among steroid users? The fact that it’s happened to both biceps… I mean, yikes.

        • Storman says:

          It is a common injury among steroid users , who lift and workout without pain or need for recovery time due to steroid use ,, The Video of Gionta’s arm being stretched and caught in back of him, sort of shows why he tore his bicep.. Do not think in the least Gionta falls into the steroid use category…….

  31. CalgaryHab says:

    Not that it matters but Fraser called it no goal

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=422689

    (in case it hasn’t already been posted

    • kbhab4ever says:

      The question is ” can the Habs play better with less ” , because they have outplayed the Sen’s 3 out of the 4 BUT except the 1st game where Price choked on a couple. It was just bad bounces and some really bad calls and some questionable coaching decisions, same as all year concerning rookie ice time. Lifetime Hab fan But it doesn’t look good

  32. Storman says:

    If you want a little good news try and catch the 3rd period of Team USA Finland, Danny Kristo is such a great skater and so gifted, I definitely see him making the Habs next year and most likely right out of training camp, why he was not called up to the black Ace squad is beyond me, I guess team brass did not foresee all these injuries and thought his development would be better served playing for Team USA at World’s,, little actually big mistake to be honest,, but at least he is playing great and a significant role for Team USA..

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      I think he isn’t a Black Ace so that he could play for the USA in the WC. Would be tough to tell a guy to miss that tourney so he can skate on the practice sheet.

      • Loonie says:

        Would also be tough to put him in the lineup. People often forget that call-ups have at least played with some of the players on the current roster in the large majority of cases.

        I think Tinordi’s the only player with the big club that Kristo’s played so much as one game with.

        • Storman says:

          That I agree with, has not so much as said hello to quite a few of the guys, kind of hard to step in like that, but with the injuries and situation arising would have been nice to have him at this point..

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      To the teams defense, international ice is way more suited to his game, and he didn’t look anywhere close to NHL capable in the 2 games I saw him play with the Bulldogs. Not even exaggerating he wasn’t on Hudon’s level in those games at all.

      Bournival and Leblanc’s overall game is more NHL ready at this point also, but don’t have the high end potential Kristo does.

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      • Storman says:

        Players Like Kristo shine best when surrounded by other highly skilled players, many players dont really shine in AHL,, but when brought up to NHL they flourish with the superior speed and skill surrounding them.

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          Gallagher, Hudon, Dumont, Bournival all managed to stand out without a lot of talent around them.

          ———————————

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          • Storman says:

            Your judging Kristo’s AHL experience on a very very short window, and in IMO opinion you probably will not get much more of chance to watch him play for the Dogs next year either..

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            Short window forsure, didn’t have time to adjust but that was what habs brass had to use as a baseline for whether to bring him up to the black aces or not.

            ———————————

            Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  33. jedimyrmidon says:

    @JohnLuTSNMtl: #Habs Therrien on Gionta: “He’s got a lot of courage.” Says when (Gionta) decided to have surgery, “The captain was crying in my arms.”

    • People work hard their entire life towards goals. When someone tells you that you can’t reach it because of something of your control it’s hard.

      I completely understand how he feels. I feel for him.

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      • Fransaskois says:

        Could mean the end of his career in the NHL. Considering what he’s given to be here and how hard he’s worked… incredible hockey player. Best of luck to him.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Can’t stand those saying he isn’t worthy of being the Habs’ captain.

        He really does work hard game in and game out. Must be really disappointing for him

    • habs1992 says:

      People always say that Gionta shows no emotion, but I dont think you can show much more emotion then crying in your coach’s arms, just shows how much it means to him, and how much wearing the CH means to him.

      I support Carey Price

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I hope he recovers and comes back next year. Gio gives it his all every shift

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  34. habs1992 says:

    So Gionta when having surgery was crying in Therrien’s arm when he gave him hug, tough to see, but just shows how much it means to Brian

    I support Carey Price

  35. Maksimir says:

    Wow – so Game 5 no:

    Emelin
    Eller
    Gionta
    Prust
    Price
    White

    Time for:

    Halpern
    Dumont
    Blunden
    Bournival
    Budaj
    ????

    To step up?

    At this point I would even take Diaz out and put in Beaulieu for experience… unless he’s in jail?

    • Strummer says:

      CBC promo:

      ‘Stay tuned for the Sens vs Bulldogs Thursday on Hockey Night in Canada’

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    • Gally365 says:

      I bet you wouldn’t go to work injured if there were body contact against 215 lb men coming at you from all angles at high speeds.
      you wouldn’t be LOL than.

      I played a lot of Hockey and know what it’s like to play through an injury. Most of this team are playing with injuries due to physical abuse. That’s why their chances are very slim getting out of the 1st round …..

      Show some respect for the Habs.

  36. habs1992 says:

    Prust and White out Tomorrow, Most likley Budaij with the start also, LOL its just laughable

    I support Carey Price

  37. habs1992 says:

    Unrealistic dream scenario for habs, again im dreaming, But MB trades for Kesler signs Horton and signs Dave Clarkson, Never happened but i really would like to see us get Dave Clarkson, heart and soul type player

    I support Carey Price

  38. The Jackal says:

    I think we can come back and win this.
    Sens have no business being up 3-1. Even though they can definitely win the last game they need, we can win 3 in a row if the refs don’t screw around and if we play like we have been playing.
    Without those calls in the third, the Sens had nothing going…

    We are the better team and I don’t think you can pin this on MT or the team.
    He is doing what he can with the D he has – as we know, it is not the best D squad. Only 1 top pairing guy and no legit 2 or 3 guys, and of course, no one to clear the crease. Tinner and Beaulieu will help down the line, but they are still rookies and are still developing.

    Ottawa has survived because they have the edge on D and can keep our offense away, but clearly not that consistently. We need to be tighter on D and I think that is what MT was trying to do. He got screwed by not being able to change his players and that made a difference.

    Habs just need to stick to their game and play solidly in their end and we win. Stay disciplined and don’t allow good chances, and we got this. We are very much alive.

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  39. Whatever says:

    We seem to be battered and bruised to the point of players not playing to their full capacity or not even playing at all. How about the Sens who were injury prone all season? Have we physically matched them to feel the same kind of pain to affect their abilities? Are we even remotely capable?

  40. HabFanSince72 says:

    We’re too beat up to beat the Sens?

    How come we skated circles around those pylons all game long last night?

  41. CalgaryHab says:

    The NHL gained some credibilty in my eyes when the Oilers won the draft lottery last year. They were the last team the NHL wanted to get the first over all pick – yet again.

    So I don’t believe there’s an agenda against the habs. Purely from a $ perspective. Which market does every network and sponsor want to advance in the post season? Big markets with big $.

    That said, it sure seems the calls have gone against the Habs. It’s not easy to forget the calls against us but hard to remember or recognize the calls in our favour. Things hopefully even out in the end.

    Remember it was a puck in the netting that wasn’t called that lead to Karlsson achillies injury – I think the sens were crying conspiracy at that time.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      There is no agenda against the Habs.

      What there is is a lack of commitment to the rules of the game, to impartiality and fair play (think Colin Campbell), and hence to the game itself.

  42. Loonie says:

    For the doom and gloom crowd. Five players I think the Habs will have very high on their draft board…..

    Alexander Wennberg, Curtis Lazar, Andre Burakowsky, Nikita Zadorov and Adam Erne.

    • fastfreddy says:

      Hartnell for Flyers is a free agent , would he fit in?

      CH = Les Glorieux!!!

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Are these guys slotted around #17-18 in the draft?

    • Chris says:

      I think you can add Bo Horvat and Max Domi to that list, unless you think they are going to go higher. Nick Sorensen will be a wildcard for one of their second round picks because of the Patrick Roy connection.

      • Loonie says:

        I think they will both go higher.

        • Chris says:

          I think Domi will go higher based on name recognition. But I think Horvat could still be around when the Habs pick. Barkov, Nichushkin, Lindholm and Ristolainen should all go ahead of him.

          Marko Dano is another that I think could be intriguing. Think he might be a bit small for the Habs, but he was pretty solid in international play.

          • Loonie says:

            I keep teasing myself and thinking that if the Habs finish with the 20th pick that somehow Bergevin could package something reasonable to get to somewhere between #6 and #10.

            I’d be ecstatic if he could land one of Shinkaruk or Nichushkin.

          • Chris says:

            I would be over the moon if they could somehow get Nichuskin, but I don’t think it is going to happen.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Think Zadorov will go higher, but if not, yes please!!

      • Chris says:

        I’d be a bit surprised. The Habs have a logjam at defence over the next couple of years, so they simply might not have any development spots for yet another strong defence prospect.

  43. habs1992 says:

    Any1 be interested in Ryan Kesler, just throwing it out there what yuo think.

    I support Carey Price

  44. Chris says:

    I suspect we will be getting a barrage of these medical announcements over the next while.

    Brandon Prust could very well be next, and I suspect that there is some lingering damage for Markov and Pacioretty based on the marked drop-off in their performance over the past 2-3 weeks.

    Throw in the injury to Price and the Habs are one beat-up team at the moment.

    • Ron says:

      Makes for a scary summer Chris. Not knowing the health of some players makes it abit difficult to pick and choose who needs to be replaced in the near future.

      • Chris says:

        It’s often the case at the end of a playoff series. You can tell that some of these guys simply aren’t playing like themselves, and I suspect nagging or chronic injuries are to blame.

        • Ron says:

          There maybe some of these boys that MB might like to put on the trade market. If there is any sign of injury or a player rehabing then that pulls them out of any movement. Not good.

  45. Habilis says:

    One thing about going down 3-1 in the series, it would make for a hell of a story if we came back.

    Remember ’93? Who among us didn’t think at least a few bad things after those first 2 games? I know I had no illusions of a deep run at that point, let alone a Cup. Then we started winning. Then the Isles beat the Pens and cleared our route to the final. No reason that sequence can’t repeat itself this year.

    Things can change quickly. The Habs have used up their allotment of losses for this round. But maybe, just maybe, they’ve learnt enough in those losses to propel them to 3 straight wins. Crazier things have happened.

    Go Habs Go.

  46. Jdub1515 says:

    Is it just me, or does anyone else hold there breath when Tinordi plays the puck in the Defensive end. He reminds me of Patrick Traverse.

  47. habs1992 says:

    Well at least it is good to see we wont be resigning Ryder, when he got of to a good start with the habs alot of people were saying resign, Im glad we got to see his real colours and didnt sign him to a 4 year 22 million contract

    I support Carey Price

  48. Flanelette says:

    I don’t know what you all think but I believe The Habs have been very, very nice with Markov. Patient and supportive. I think he could pay them back by quitting this summer to free his salary.

  49. Storman says:

    I wonder if the NHL will ever see the light and adopt IIHF ice size that little extra time and space makes the game so much more entertaining and invites speed and skill back into the game ten fold..all the time still allowing for the big hit or finishing of checks when there,, even cycling of the puck is entertaining with more time and space behind the net..

    PS Danny Kristo impressing me to the max great skater,, about a thousand times better skater than Michael Ryder..

  50. RobertAlanFord says:

    Unrelated to Habs but a friend of the family works for the Canucks and said Gillis isn’t in today.

    @BBRhockey
    http://bleublancetrouge.ca/

  51. AH says:

    With Gionta out, if Prust plays on, give him the “C”! He deserves it, but I’m sure they’ll give it to our hard rock defenseman Gorges becauses he does all the blabbing of all the cliches’ after games. Does anyone wonder why we never hear from any of the “passengers” about how crappy they are playing?, IE DD, Pacs, Ryder, Gionta, Diaz? Or better yet give the “C” to Gallagher maybe that would wake up the no shows to get their arses in gear!!

    • AllHailTheFlower says:

      Pretty sure that when you pick the captain, he’s the captain for the season unless he’s traded. They’ll go with three guys wearing the “A” and Prust is already one of them. Although the way he left the game last night, I highly doubt he’ll be back to wear it again – for this series anyway.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Prust will want to play tomorrow, but I don’t think his body will allow him to. He’s toast.

  52. mrhabby says:

    Gionta experience is going to be missed. Thats 2 tricep tears in 1 year. Sometimes these are career enders. It will be interesting to see what happens over the summer. its only 5-6 months from start of camp.

  53. habs1992 says:

    Has your opinion on Max changed at all, i mean he is probably injured but he has been brutal this playoffs

    I support Carey Price

  54. Supersonic says:

    I’m really disapointed by Therrien’s comments saying he liked the way they played in the third, asking for explanations about the face-off and saying they deserved a better faith. Fact is they sucked in the 3rd. Maybe reporters should remain the coach his motto at the begining of the year: NO EXCUSES

  55. Davida says:

    No practice today? Did they hit the driving range?

    ;)

    Habs for life, MTL forever

  56. Steeltown Hab says:

    Just read MTL signed Mike Condon, goalie from Princeton, add that to the Tokarski pickup and I can’t see us drafting a goalie with one of our top 4 picks like people have suggested.

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • Oh My who wants to draft a goalie within the first four picks?

      Make a list, because that’s the funniest thing I ever read.

      Shane Oliver
      Twitter @Sholi2000
      http://www.Sholi2000.com
      Custom Sports Figures

      • thehabs21 says:

        Dude you also said i’d eat my words lastnight… like how did you not see this coming…. same old story

        “I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears”

      • Chris says:

        Remember that Carey Price himself was exactly that kind of off-the-board pick in 2005. Other teams do it all the time.

        Last season, Boston drafted Subban with their first pick (24th overall) despite having Tuukka Rask in the fold. Nashville took Magnus Hellberg with their first pick (38th overall) despite Rinne, while Anaheim took Frederik Andersen 87th overall with their third pick despite also having Hiller and John Gibson, who they spent their 2nd pick on in 2011.

        The LA Kings used their first pick (49th overall) in the 2011 draft on Christopher Gibson despite already having Quick and Bernier.

        So while you laugh about yet another thing that is the funniest thing you’ve ever heard, Montreal has one of the worst goaltending depth situations in the NHL. An injury to Price would be catastrophic, so spending a high draft pick in a year where they have 4 to get a good to great guy to be groomed over the next 2-5 seasons is not a crazy idea whatsoever.

        Personally, I would not at all be sad to see the Habs pick one of Fucale, Jarry or Comrie. They should be thinking for what the team needs in 3-5 years, an eon when it comes to NHL careers. I have every expectation that Price will still be the man in Montreal, but who knows?

  57. jedimyrmidon says:

    Even though following this series is like repeatedly getting punched in the gut, I have to say that I really like the young players of this team.

    Price
    Subban, Emelin, Diaz (yes, Diaz), Tinordi
    Eller, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Pacioretty

    I’m also hoping that Beaulieu develops into an offensive, puck moving, smooth skating defenseman… with the ability to play physically, and a mean streak, which, I believe, he has.

  58. habsfor25 says:

    Give it our all, we have nothing to lose

  59. Loonie says:

    It’s funny to read comments after losses. You can tell who eats up everything Tony Marinaro says with a spoon.

    He cares, I’ll give him that.

    • habs1992 says:

      Tony is the man, I dont agree with anything he really says, but he is entertaining

      I support Carey Price

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Marinaro sounds pretty good to me most of the time, as does everyone else on TSN 690. I trust their opinions and observations more than most of the clowns around here.

      ****************
      “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

      –Mike Boone

      • habs1992 says:

        I love that station, and was pretty mad they were going to get rid of it,.

        I support Carey Price

      • Loonie says:

        Marinaro picks his spots and rarely considers mitigating circumstance or relevant information.

        Like last night when he was blasting Therrien for playing Tinordi plenty and sitting Galchenyuk.

        Oh and on Gorges, I’m his biggest critic here but he’s been fantastic since the playoffs began.

        Would I have had Tinordi and Subban on the ice in the final seconds? Nope. Subban and Gorges.

        Tinordi is still a kid and has looked like it a few times in the series, and it’s lead to a couple of goals.

        But that’s just my opinion.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I agree about having Gorges and Subban on. You need experience. MT has had a great year but in the last month some of his coaching moves on the ice.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          I agree Gorges has improved in the playoffs.

          Regarding Marinaro, he’s funny, entertaining and emotional. He and the rest of TSN 690 believe the Habs are too small, timid and they’ve been screaming for change for years. I agree 100%.

          ****************
          “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

          –Mike Boone

  60. Pittsburgh Penguins ‏@penguins 8m
    Bylsma says Tomas Vokoun will start tomorrow.

    Shane Oliver
    Twitter @Sholi2000
    http://www.Sholi2000.com
    Custom Sports Figures

  61. SteverenO says:

    Now I have read through some other posts and the consensus is that we lost because of the horrible reffing, injuries, and because we are too small and not tough enough.

    All the above may be true but they all have one thing in common. the team had no control over ANY of those factors going into last nights game, and will be unable to control any of them in the next one, two or hopefully, three games.

    So you can choose to whine and complain about stuff you have NO control over, OR you can look at what you did wrong, and figure out a way to improve in the areas that you CAN control.

    Despite all the bad circumstances, reffing, injuries, lack of size, we could VERY WELL have won the game last night had we just utilized the right players at the right time.

    The same holds true for game one.

    It s time someone in the organization stepped up and talk to the coach about the way he uses the players. This is NOT rocket science,….some players are better defensively and some are better offfensively. Some are strong two-ways. Some are better on the PP and some are better on the Penalty Kill.
    If we just utilized the players in a way that maximized our chances to win …rather than in a way that minimizes our chances to win ; we could prove once and for all that skill can beat thuggery, the refs,and the breaks can go against us and,we can rise above all that nonsense. and come out victorious.

    How much better would it look if we protested the reffing ,and rightfully so, in a game that we WON?

    Stop the whining ,stop the excuses, be PREPARED and make smart decisions, and win the damn game, for chrissakes!

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • The Jackal says:

      Hi Steve.
      Sorry if my comment on the goaltending stats and Gally on the PP was rude, I apologize.

      That being said, I don’t really agree with your analysis re. the coaching and the “excuses.”

      The refs really did screw it up for us yesterday, it’s that simple.

      As for the player icetime, MT is doing what he can with that roster. He does not have many options on D or forward and he has to use what he has! Not only that but he believes in his players and they in him, it is part of his system and it has worked pretty well so far.
      Because of injuries we are even more limited but when you look at our D squad there are only so many combinations you can put out there, we need to upgrade, not change what MT is doing.

      ______________________
      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Hi Jackal,
        I dont know as much about hockey as 99.9% of the people here. So i hope at least 2% of that 99.9% respond to Stevi-O. I think his questions are valid. I think in some instances MT has gone with the ‘veteran’ or ‘experienced player’ or ‘supposedly known quantity’ based on reflex-action coaching. The problem, as Stevie-O points out is that the ‘known-quantities’ aren’t statiscally accurate.
        In today’s NHL, where you can’t load up your team to Dynasty level, and where there really is such parity, coaching MUST be as informatively dynamic as Stevie-o says.

    • Jdub1515 says:

      I was quite clear. We are a transitional hockey team that thrives with offense. The decision to sit on 2 goal lead an play defensive Jacque Martin style hockey was our failure. The best defense for this generation of Montreal Canadiens is offense. We lost because we don’t play to our strengths.

      • SteverenO says:

        he benched their best defensive line ,so what is the point? Armstrong not playing and Pacioretty, Gallagher, Ryder did. Sitting on a two goal lead may have worked had he not SAT our best defensive forwards. and made sure to have TWO capable face off men for all defensive zone faceoffs. The last three faceoffs that PLAK lost his wingers were Ryder and Bourque… who would have taken the draw had Plek been thrown out of the circle?.

        regards,

        Steve O.

  62. habs1992 says:

    This is a joke, I never seen the most storied franchise of one sport, be treat like dog**** like the habs do to the NHL, absolute joke.

    I support Carey Price

  63. deuce6 says:

    Maybe Gionta will retire with this injury and we can use his cap hit to sign a real impact player..Hope he recovers, but I have had enough of the smurf era..One 5′ player is enough..(Gallagher)

  64. Jdub1515 says:

    I could easily delve into how we are playing with house money and we should all be happy after finishing dead last in the league a year ago, to be playing in May this year … but the fact is Montreal, (without their captain, without their brightest star in Eller) is still better than Ottawa and after outplaying the Sens in 3 of 4 games, we have every right to believe they can make this series interesting still. Boston or Pittsburgh, perhaps not, but Ottawa … Why the habs decided to play JM hockey in the 3rd and sit on the lead is beyond me. When will they learn the best defense is offense, especially with a fast transition team like Montreal, it’ sickening. Watch the moments preceding the first Ottawa goal – for 5 minutes we played our style of hockey and exploded with 6 shots and almost restored the 2 goal lead. 5’8 players aren’t going to win puck battles in the D zone, but in transition they will fly and score at will as they did in period 2.

  65. anotherhab says:

    This series could easily be 3-1 in our favour, in games 1 and 4 we weren’t out played. So now we win game 5 at home and the pressure falls back on Ottawa to finish it up at home. It will be tough for us with all the injuries (and only if they didn’t have Anderson in net), we need the hockey gods to shine down on us for a change (like an illegal stick), to this point the Sens seem to have all the luck and the Refs on their side. Go Habs Go!!
    Any updates on Eller??

    “I find your lack of faith disturbing! Darth V”

  66. bel33 says:

    Should the Habs put Gionta on LTIR next year (ala Pronger) and save his salary???

    Just wondering out loud… don’t think it ever comes to that as it’s a recoverable injury. Or it least it was for most of this season. Sigh…

  67. derfab says:

    I thought Gionta had that surgery last year? The kids should be getting a chance thursday. LeBlanc, Kristo, Dumont… these guys can play and should already have bumped the injured vets who, as a group, haven’t been good for weeks. Letting diminished guys play is stupid.

  68. homerbowen says:

    While I wish we would win the Cup but the realist in me says it’s time for the boys to bring out their (golf) clubs. We are a physically beaten club and any prolonging of this series could risk serious injury. One of the problems as I see it is we are, and have been for years, a very fragile team. Our players try to act out the “tough” role, however, in this new NHL size matters and most of our players cannot stand up to the physical pounding from players much bigger than us. Just look around, Ottawa, Toronto and Boston plus most of the other teams.
    MB……take a look and start working on it.
    MT….your “plan” seemed to work during the very short season but failed miserably in the opening round…hope you have a better one for the full season next year. Oh, and show a little class and drop the “dour” expression during the post game interview as well as the constant excuses blaming refs and coaches. I never did like you!!!!
    GO HABS GO…..next year.

  69. Loonie says:

    Prediction. If Price doesn’t play tomorrow night. A Hab takes a very healthy run at Craig Anderson.

    Just a hunch.

  70. The Jackal says:

    I’m sorry everyone, but this may have been my fault.

    I have not watched our wins.
    Last night I turned the TV on because I thought it was safe to watch…. then they tied it up.

    I won’t watch any more games for at least the first round.

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Habilis says:

      LOL. You are dedicated, good sir.

      Now I’m not superstitious , so I guess my opinion on this is moot. That being said though, watch the game bud. It may be the last Habs’ game this season. Turning your TV on won’t change anything.

      Just my two cents.

      • The Jackal says:

        Ha I know it won’t, but I always miss the first and maybe second period anyway, so it’s not hard to miss the game and just follow it here.

        ______________________
        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I thought I confined you to a kool-ade supplied bunker. How did you get out?

  71. Steeltown Hab says:

    All you need to know about the kicking motion. Kerry Fraser even says no goal, does the NHL have a response to this?

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=422689

    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • B says:

      What do you think the NHL should do?

      –Go Habs Go!–

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Get rid of the guys in the war room who can’t do their job, when they have video evidence in front of them and time to review it.

        ———————————

        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        (1) Admit the mistake and ensure it never happens again.

        or

        (2) Like a mafia lawyer, insist your client never did anything wrong.

  72. Newf_Habster says:

    So did Gionta re-injured his left bicep like he did last year?

  73. LesHabs says:

    The “War Room” in Toronto, where all goals are reviewed, should be eliminated. Like in the NFL, the
    NHL referees should have a “replay booth” where they themselves can go and watch the replays and
    determine whether a goal should be allowed or disallowed.

    Isn’t this a fundamental part of their job anyways?

    • bel33 says:

      Kerry Fraser agrees:
      “My first choice however would be to allow the Referee(s) on the ice to review the play from a secured location to determine the legality of these types of goals in addition to goalie interference. They get paid to make the tough calls and decisions of this nature are just part of their job description.”

      • Kooch7800 says:

        With today’s technology there is no reason to have the decision made in a war room in another city. There should be a tablet there where they can make their own decisions. I 100 % agree with Fraser on this

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • New says:

        Doesn’t really matter. The game is done, Ottawa won. We all know they caught breaks to do it, except Ottawa.

        The point being that when the game is on the line you push the puck into the net. The worst that will happen is the refs will call it back. Most times they cave because they don’t want to decide the game (and consequently do).


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