Habs en vacances

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David Desharnais went on a fishing trip to northern Quebec and thrilled the kids in Kangirsuk, 13 km inland from Ungava Bay and 1.600 km north of the Bell Centre.
They want him to come again … and bring P.K. Subban next time.

Out on the west coast, Carey Price signed his Canadiens contract at the Williams Lake Stampede rodeo. He posted this pic to Twitter:

Here’s another Twitter shot of Price with his girlfriend, Angela Webber, and his sister Kayla, wearing a FLYERS hat:

802 Comments

  1. RabidHabit says:

    I don’t see what angela sees in carey.

  2. HabinBurlington says:

    Those asking about Prongers contract hit. Pronger can/will be placed on LTIR, thus allowing Philly to exceed the caphit by the equivalence of his contract hit. Marc Savard is in a similar situation in Boston, however, last year Boston didn’t need to have him on LTIR as they had space. It is expected I believe that Savard will be on LTIR this season.

    The flyers can continue to do this with Pronger for the life of his contract, so long as he doesn’t retire. If Pronger retires, then the LTIR is no longer applicable. I would think Holmgren and Pronger will have an understanding that he won’t retire in order to help Philly with capspace.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Gerald, The insurance pay’s the contract, not the club, RIGHT?

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I don’t have the exact answer Ian, but it is my understanding that yes he is collecting insurance, which I don’t know equates to full payout or partial with the team covering the difference.

        However, Insurance companies are being much more careful. It was reported that Crosby’s new contract has only partial insurance. He is covered for things like knee, arm, shoulder injuries, but not for concussion related injuries as they feel the risk is too high.

      • ont fan says:

        I heard that the 5 top contracts on a team are covered by 80% from insurance companies. Does not include signing bonus. Don’t know if it’s true. Golf course talk.

  3. wjc says:

    I don’t want Gomez to night!

    I WANT “THE COMEBACK KID!”

    wjc

    • Clay says:

      What exactly is your relationship to Gomez? Parent? Brother? Sister? Cousin? Lover?
      I’m thinking the latter by the way you suck his **** in every post.

      __________________________
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      • wjc says:

        Clay, you are getting rather personal.

        Mr. Gomez does not need my help in anyway. I am just expressing an opinion. Please do not be offended if I see only positives.

        wjc

        • Clay says:

          Serious question though. Way to avoid the answer.

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  4. Ian Cobb says:

    THEY CALL ME SHANE.!

    Here is a story about one of my hero’s and one of our super HIO members.

    Shane and I first met on this site a number of years ago and in person when he helped me at the last few Summits in Montreal.

    He lives in Brandon Man. where he was stationed as a Sargent in our military and is a young injured war hero. He is from P.E.I.

    He is home in PEI for the summer and a local newspaper just wrote this article about him. Please read it and say hi to him at this years Summit in Oct.

    He is a great Canadian, my friend and a very passionate Hab’s fan. click below
    http://peicanada.com/opinion_cindy_chant_editor/columns_opinions/saluting_forgotten_soldier

  5. Habfan17 says:

    The owners just keep giving ammunition to Fehr and old Bettman must be pulling his best Rumplestiltskin impression jumping around pulling out what is left of his hair.

    The owners can’t claim poor and caring about the health of the league. The flyers played within the rules, but that does not mean it is good for the league.

    Subban is seeing what Suter and Weber just got and now may be looking at signing short term or asking for way more money on a long term. Add in what Carle and Wideman received and it hurts everyone. Now teams are forced to pay for what if not what have they earned! Even Souray at his age and after beeing in the AHl for a season. How can you tell Subban he is worth less than what Souray got, or even Carle?

    Habfan17

  6. Marc10 says:

    Of course Nashville could match. Is that the end of it then?

    • Habfan17 says:

      If I were Nashville I would take the picks. That way they have 7 first rounders over the next 4 years. If the Flyers don’t gel, they will be in trouble in a couple of years and Nashville with the young talent they already have in the wings, and the draft picks, could be the better team. Not to mention they can go after UFA’s in each of the 4 seasons coming up. Then I would compare the offer sheet and the impact on each team.

      Habfan17

      • Habfan10912 says:

        If Nashville does not match Flyers offer I think the smart move would be to make a trade. Probably would yield more then the picks for a top dman. Going to be an interesting 7 days.

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        • HabinBurlington says:

          Nashville needs to make a trade IMHO, 4 first sounds good, but perhaps instead they pick up a real good player like a Couturier and 2 firsts. Unfortunately, Philly doesn’t have much for young dmen to offer up in trade.

  7. 24 Cups says:

    Not sure what this means. I thought it would automatically be four 1st rounders. (taken from the TSN website)

    “Compensation in the form of draft picks for the Predators should they choose not to match the Flyers offer is tied to the average per year cap hit of the offer sheet. It is expected the Predators would receive either four first round draft picks or two first round picks, one second and one third from the Flyers.”

    I guess this move makes if official – Chris Pronger’s career is over. Quality of life now becomes his main issue.

    It also appears that Kimmo Timonen will be playing his last season for the Flyers. No real surprise there.

    Both Weber and Schenn shoot from the right side which also addresses a big need on the D. Weber is going to be out there for close to half the game some nights.

    Weber/Schenn/Coburn/Garrsion/Timonen/Meszaros. Looks good to me. It will also “improve” the qaulity of Bryzgalov’s goaltending.

    It’s certainly not a good day to be Erik Gustafsson.

    It’s back to the drawing board for the Preds. This double whammy will set the franchise back for years to come. So much for trying to grow the game in the sunbelt. As I have said before, Bettman’s problem isn’t with Fehr, it’s trying to reel in the free spending owners and GMs on the big market teams. Which begs the question, just who was it that offered Doan a +35 contract for 30M over four years?

  8. Cal says:

    The offer sheet Weber signed guarantees a trade is going to be done within 7 days. Who is going Nashville’s way is now the question.

    • nickster13 says:

      I would take the 4 first rounders. Thats a LOT of first rounders making it totally worth it. Yeah its hard to replace a guy like Weber, but 4 FIRST ROUNDERS!!!! Even if they are picking in the 22-25 range, thats 4 blue chip players, and Weber himself was only a 2nd rounder, so I think a trade won’t get Nashville a higher bounty than this. But I will wait and see!

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      But Nashville trade first rounders to rent the likes of Paul Gaustad.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  9. ProHabs says:

    Paul Holmgron is a GM that does whatever it takes to win. I like this guy. He is gutsy, looks outside the box, and makes things interesting in Philly. I don’t know how he is always able to fit everyone under the cap though. Doesn’t Prongers salary count against the cap no matter what. He was sign when over 35 I believe.

    • ont fan says:

      Holmgren wheels and deals like a used car salesman and has the nerve of a burglar. Gutsy, outside the box, maybe. I think Gainey did just that a few years ago and has been crucified for it ever since. A GM can roll the dice and take a chance but I don’t believe Habs fans have the stomach for it. We don’t want to overpay, the soon to be stars on our team, but fool around with PK and a Holmgren will take him too.

    • Cal says:

      I especially like his Bryzgalov signing. It was inspired. And, yes, Pronger is a cap hit no matter his situation. I like that he traded away Carter and Richards, who promptly helped to win a Cup. As a GM, Holmgren is great…for LA.

      • DMAN says:

        I think you may be forgetting that what “inspired” Holmgren was a really bad playoff performance vs. the B’s in which they were dropped 4 games to none! I think, while he obviously takes risks, he is a great forward thinker and Philly will be a threat for years to come with him at the helm.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Maybe since he has concusion problems, he could retire for medical reasons and his salary would not count. I am not sure just throwing out a possibility. I think the rule was put in to help stop some GM’s from signing older players to riduculous contracts that would go away if a player retired on their own.

      Habfan17

  10. shootdapuck says:

    Next question, what moves will Holmgren make to fit this 7mill pill under the cap?

    Or has Holmgren’s fortune teller Ed Snider given him some CBA insight?

    Who is going to come loose from Philly?

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    “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
    “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”
    ” I have a pet peeve”

    • Marc10 says:

      Prongs retires.

      And then he pulls a Wade Redden/Denis Gauthier let them sit in the minors move?

      Could he do that with is goalie?

      • Cal says:

        Pronger, retired or not, still counts against the cap.

        • Marc10 says:

          Wow. I look forward to seeing how they get out of that mess.

          Maybe Howson will help them out?

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            According to capgeek they have 7.8M in cap space with a full roster of players already signed. They’ll hav no problem fitting Weber in. Plus Timonen is retiring next year.

            The Pronger deal was an immense blunder though. That is $5m against the cap until 2017.


            Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

          • shootdapuck says:

            .8 mill under the cap?

            Latest reports have this deal at closer to 120 mill over 14 years.

            Now they’re squirming in Philly!

            =================================================
            The cerebral insight of PJ Stock:

            “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
            “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”
            ” I have a pet peeve”

          • Cal says:

            I am hoping the Flyers are foolish enough to move some of their great young players for Nash, thus binding them very close to the cap for several seasons. Unfortunately, it seems the cap rises by about how much Philly needs it to rise.

  11. Un Canadien errant says:

    I guess one bargaining chip that the NHLPA has is the threat of decertification. If they decertified as a union representing the players, then the CBA would obviously be null and void, and there would no longer be a salary cap, the Rangers and Leafs could buy all the players they want without restrictions. There would be two or three tiers in the league, with traditional powers (or rather, rich teams) at the top, a middling few who fight every year to get in the playoffs through ingenuity, and a lower tier of untouchables who would be punching bags for the rest of the league.

    The league would be markedly changed, in that the players could sue in court to remove the universal draft and reserve clause, which are restraints of trade and monopolistic. Players could once they reach the age of 18 sign with the club they want for as long or short a period as they want, and at the conclusion of that contract be full free agents. They could demand crazy things like are offered in the KHL, cars, appartments, they could insist on No Movement Clauses. Faced with the possibility of signing a Taylor Hall with a NMC or losing him to another team that would acquiesce, a dozen teams would stampede to do so.

    There would be no ‘standard contract’, players would bargain individually for guarantees and bonuses, options, and renegotiate or extend the contract when they wanted.

    So in a way, the NHL has to be reasonable, they have to hold off the threat of the KHL on one hand, and prevent the courts from sticking their noses in the way they do business if the PA decertifies. We can hope that their ridiculous opening offer was just some sabre rattling.

    • Marc10 says:

      My fear when Fehr came onto the scene (terrible pun fully intended) was that we’d eventually end up with the Euro Football model or (even worse) the MLB model where the rich win all the championships while the plebs must contend with having a ‘good season’ and (in football’s case) not being relegated… before having their assets fleeced and gutted come the end of the season.

      I know that’s the way of things in life and in economics, but I was hoping we’d keep that at bay as much as possible with hockey under an improved collective bargaining agreement.

      As a fan, I don’t want the Man Us and Chelseas of the world winning piles of championships on the backs of deep coffers while watching my Bolton Wanderers get owned every F season. There’s plenty of that going around. I’d rather have a balanced league where every team comes at the table with equal dollars and an organisation’s smarts, clever drafting and town attributes win out in the end.

      The one thing that keeps this from happening in hockey, I have to believe, is that the sport itself isn’t all that popular compared to its major competition, and that to maintain its fanbase in struggling markets (and there are quite a few) every team needs a legit shot at the Cup.

      If Gary and Don screw this up by creating the kind of scenario you’re suggesting, I would suspect we’ll get franchises folding in the near term. There’s just no way you could hold fan interest in places like Phoenix or Dallas if their teams didn’t stand a chance at least some of the time.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        We;d be one of the Man Utds and Chelseas though.

        The pure commerce model would leave us top dog of a league with maybe 20 teams.

        Better than having Stanley Cup parades in Tampa and Raleigh-Durham.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • wjc says:

      Decertification? Decertification, like disband the players union, go without a union, that has helped make the players wealthy beyond their wildest imagination.

      Bargaining individually, like in the 50’s and 60’s.

      If the union decertified the Bettman and the owners would be doing cartwheels down Main street.

      Sue for no universal draft, just every team for themselves. So the Rangers, Leafs could spend as they see fit if they wanted and build a dynasty

      The owners could become totally unreasonable and pay for the players would fall slowly down.

      wjc

  12. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …and, any odds this will encourage another team making an offer-sheet to PK ?

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    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Not sure how much of a target P.K. is. He actually likes being in Montréal and being a Canadien.

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      June 22: Alex Galchenyuk [x]
      June 23: Stefan Matteau, Mike Matheson, Martin Frk, Brandon Whitney
      June 2429: Travis Moen [x]
      June 2627: Mathieu Darche
      June 26: Ryan White
      June 30: Alexei Emelin
      July 1: P.A. Parenteau, Taylor Pyatt
      July 3: Shane O’Brien
      July 52: Carey Price [x]
      July 6: Lars Eller
      July 9: P.K. Subban
      Sept. 15: Training camps open
      Oct. 11: Puck drop, Canadiens vs. Senators

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      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …not really worried PK wants to leave …and, even if He did, there would be several first-round compensation picks
        …just curious whether this move on Weber would entice another to offer PK similar …thus possibly driving up Our cost
        …offer-sheets are normally considered ‘unfriendly’, causing market distortion …interested to see if this fiscal madness affects CBA negotiations giving the NHLPA bullets to fire at the NHL

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    • Cal says:

      The qualifying offer PK received removes that possibility. That’s why it was done.

      • Chris says:

        Qualifying offers do not remove the threat of an offer sheet. They merely prevent the player from becoming an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

        Salary arbitration is the RFA negotiating lever that prevents offer sheets.

  13. zaq007 says:

    100 million dollar offer sheet with Philly…woah, preds have 7 days if not they can maybe get 4 1sts. Cray

  14. H.Upmann says:

    Still can’t believe Howson didn’t take those Islanders picks… Would have been a great way to stock up the system.

  15. fastfreddy says:

    I agree Lizardking, 100%

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  16. fastfreddy says:

    Weber is not a strong skater, a little on the slow side. And, he’s not big enough or physical enough for the NHL.

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  17. jedimyrmidon says:

    Looking at the comments in this article, it seems that most have the Habs at 10-15 next season (if it happens). This in contrast to the results of the poll here. So we at HIO too positive in spite of knowing first hand what the Habs went through last season? Or do other fans just look at last season and paint the Habs as bottom feeders?

    • JUST ME says:

      Both scenarios are possible.After all there were no major changeS on ice. Looks like we got a bit more grit but it remains to be seen so basically we have the same team as last year so results may follow.

      The other way to see it (i`d rather subscribe to this one) is that everything that could go bad last year did. Lots of injuries and underachievers wrapped in a bad atmosphere . Obviously the athletes are now on unknown territory as far as their future is concerned with the new team off ice so i think the effort will be there and in a more positive work place.

      In both scenarios though i believe next season will be a transition year preparing for the arrival of a few promising players for the next seasons and the other ones to follow. Big changes are coming in the core of the team wich is a new storyboard for the Habs that have been used for decades to work with what they have without the hope of young blood coming.

      • Lizardking89 says:

        A healthy Markov if he returns to form will help this team big time. He was pretty much a non factor when he came back. The season was over and he didn’t look like the same player so alot rests on that. I loved MB’s off season moves but will it make this team a contender to make the playoffs? We’ll see I guess but you’re definitely right this is a transition year before a few of the great prospects we have make the jump to the NHL.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Yeah, I would tend to agree.

        The roster that started the disastrous 2011-2012 season should have, by all accounts, been better than the one that made it the playoffs the two previous seasons and performed pretty well. Some will say that injuries and organizational discord (i.e. firing of coaches, trading of players mid-game) are little more than excuses. I would disagree in that I think A LOT went wrong for the Habs in many, many ways and the cumulative result of that was finishing last in the conference.

        They also lost many games in OT and in the shootout, not to mention other games by one goal. In the 82 games last season, I cannot think of any game where the Habs got blown out. The worst games were against the Caps and getting shut out 3-0 multiple times against them, but other than that, they were usually in the game and never really collapsed except for a couple of games around Christmas (against Chicago then Winnipeg). And their PP inexplicably went to the ground. Phewf.

        They should hold up better this year with the added grit and toughness to the roster. And yeah, I agree that this year’s edition of the team is quite transitional in nature.

      • Un Canadien errant says:
    • neumann103 says:

      I think a lot of these things are done based on “how much changed” applied to last season’s finish. It just doesn’t work that way. Look at New Jersey. A year ago I thought that the most improved teams in the East were Buffalo and Florida yet I expected Buffalo to barely squeak in and Florida to miss the playoffs.

      Even the article itself actually gets it right, re Montreal’s 2012-2013 outlook:
      “Why they could get in: In 2010-11, with pretty much the same roster, this team finished eighth in the conference and won the first two games in the first round against the Boston Bruins. Last season was a combination of injuries, poor play in many areas and a lot of bad luck — a League-high 16 overtime/shootout losses. It’s hard to imagine that much bad luck hitting a team twice in a row, so it’s not hard to figure this team turning it around quickly.”

      I still think that this is a team that will be in that group of 4 or 5 teams contending for those last 2-3 playoff spots.

      “Et le but!”

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Heh, the article almost gets it right – he probably confused the Habs’ 8th place finish and run to the ECF and the subsequent 6th place finish.

  18. JohnBellyful says:

    I know the Summit’s a few months off — and might even have to be cancelled — but I was wondering, would underwear make a good raffle prize? New ones, of course. Giant Tiger’s got them on sale and I’d hate to pass up a good deal.

    — “A little song, a little dance, a brand new pair of underpants?” –

  19. habsfan0 says:

    In his column today, Mike Boone asks the question: “Does anyone under the age of 20 know what phone booths are?”

    To which I would say, yes, even the under 20 age segment of the population mostly knows that these were cubicles that were occasionally used by Clark Kent to change into Superman.

  20. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I am very tempted to invest in a condo in the proposed Tour Canadiens
    …as a second home and/or for a pied-à-terre when My Son graduates and enrolls in McGill
    …My guess is this will be an excellent business decision by Molson …unit sales will fly very quickly
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  21. Habilis says:

    Wilde tweeted a good one today:

    @BWildeCTV It has come to my attention when hearing what Scott Howson wants for Nash that he has absolutely no clue what he’s doing. #dreamweaver #CBJ

    I’m amazed that Howson still has a job to be honest. This thing has been going on since February. When is he going to realize that Nash is not worth what he thinks?

    • JayK-47 says:

      The insane refusal to take ALL of the Isles picks,

      drafting 2 goalies after trading for Bobrovsky,

      firing their scouts the day after the draft,

      Somethings rotten in the state of Ohio.

      • Steven says:

        Apparently he’s gunning for Bernier now, too(or, at least, he’s interested). This guy is awful at managing. First, believing Bobrovsky is the answer, then trying to find another goalie a few weeks later.

        And if he were to get Bernier, what do they do with Steve Mason?

        • JayK-47 says:

          Wow… that’s plain nutso. Does he think there’s a goalie market to corner?

          Unreal.

          Then again, maybe the Habs can trade Budaj and a couple goalies for Nash?

          • Steven says:

            It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he sends an offer to LA that’s unrealistic like Kopitar, Brown, Bernier and a 1st for Nash and some other weak piece and expect it to get through.

            Well, if he’s as bad as he looks at GMing, maybe Toronto will snag Nash for Reimer, Kessel and some other forward(or maybe Morgan Rielly. I would laugh if they did that, especially after Burke’s “We’d take him 1st overall” charade.)

      • Marc10 says:

        The Isles refusal takes the cake. I imagine every GM would have done that deal in that draft year (except for Brian Burke maybe…)

    • neumann103 says:

      I posted several times that I was astonished that Howson still had a job on draft day. He seems totally in over his head. Throwing Nash under the bus seemed like the last straw. The Islanders kitchen sink story was just overkill.

      People like to jump on Bob Gainey but other than the Gomez trade (which absolutely flabbergasted me at the time) any other criticisms are really just judgement calls in the context of a qualified and proven GM.

      Howson is in Gart Snow territory on his way to Milburyville. He must have done interdisciplinary studies at the Matt Millen institute. I suspect that he is somehow being subsidized by Steve Tambelini to provide a rationale for his not being fired.

      “Et le but!”

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Nice. Love that you weaved in Garth Snow, Mike Milbury AND Matt Millen to slag a fourth GM. Only ones missing were Irving Grundman and Réjean Houle.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      “I don’t know if that’s going to be enough Mr. Bettman.” It’s Scott Howson. Somehow, he seems perched precariously on the chair, like he’s about to be unseated. He’s grimly, barely hanging on. “It will take a long time to change players’ habits.”

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/07/gary-bettman-should-do-his-friggin-job.html

    • wjc says:

      He hasn’t give Nash away, so maybe he does know what he is doing.

      wjc

    • ProHabs says:

      With it being the hockey offseason, Boone should do a Recap of today’s HIO. He reads all the comments then gives us a short summary of the day instead of us having to read through the 700 comments.

    • wjc says:

      If people would read the ESPN article 2 or 3 times, it might sink in that both side do want a deal, and a strike/lockout is totally unnecessary. Nobody is getting emotional. Calm and analyzing the PROPOSAL as to what it means and where they can meet to keep everything rolling.

      Too much money being made to destroy it now. NBC would not be pleased and they are a big player in all of this.

      wjc


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