Habs’ Emelin will make return against Rangers

Following Friday night’s shootout victory over the Blue Jackets in Columbus, the Canadiens announced that only five players would skate Saturday morning in Brossard and that there would be no media availability as the team prepares to face the New York Rangers Saturday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

The Rangers haven’t had much success at the Bell Centre, losing to the Canadiens in their last eight meetings there. In six of those losses, the Rangers have been shut out.

Canadiens defenceman Alexei Emelin, who has been sidelined since last season and underwent reconstructive knee surgery, will return to the lineup Saturday.

Fans of the 24CH show will have three opportunites to watch the newest episode on Saturday as it will air in English at 4:30 p.m. on CTV, and in French at 6:30 p.m. on Canal D and 10:30 p.m. on RDS.

(Photo by Dave Sidaway/The Gazette)

Canadiens vs. Rangers preview, NHL.com

Rangers look for win in Montreal, NHL.com

‘Unhappy’ Del Zotto to sit for Rangers, New York Daily News

Nash travels to Montreal with Rangers, newyorkrangers.com

Game notes, newyorkrangers.com

Desharnais scores shootout winner in Columbus, by Pat Hickey

Therrien liked what he saw from Desharnais, by Pat Hickey

Redemption story for Desharnais, Canadiens.com

Nilan drops gloves again in his new book, by Stu Cowan

Watch this week’s HI/O Show with Chris Nilan

Text from The Hockey Sweater taken off new $5 bill, by Dave Stubbs

Columbus slow to embrace Blue Jackets, by Pat Hickey

Desperate times in Buffalo, by Pat Hickey

Ducks deal Holland to Leafs, nhl.com

 

134 Comments

  1. Un Canadien errant says:

    Meanwhile, back in Hamilton, the Bulldogs suffered their sixth consecutive defeat, falling to the Lake Erie Monsters 5-3.

    http://www.thespec.com/sports-story/4220921-ahl-lake-erie-scores-four-goals-in-six-minutes-to-edge-hamilton-bulldogs-5-3/

    Not great times for our farm team. I thought we’d gotten rid of a lot of marginal players from last year, added some AHL vets, and our rooks from last year would be more mature, so we’d be more competitive this season, but this is a bit of a rough patch. I didn’t listen to the broadcast, but the previous game Derek Wills called out the marquee Bulldogs for not performing as AHL All-Stars, and I believe he was pointing the finger at Nathan Beaulieu and Jarred Tinordi, based on context. It would be nice if these guys seized the team by the collar and dragged it to victories by the strength of their effort and production.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/11/hamilton-bulldogs-allow-four-goals-in.html

    No time to panic, we need to be patient, but evidently we shouldn’t look to Hamilton for obvious reinforcements, at least for a while.

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    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

  2. joeybarrie says:

    David Desharnais, Guillaume Latendresse, Louis Leblanc, Daniel Briere, even Carey Price.
    We tend to think the potential and peak performance of our players are the norm with them. As fans we over reach our expectations of our players based on a small successful batch of games or sampling.
    Pleks had a great season and so he was a hero, the next wasn’t so great and everyone went crazy with anger when he was signed to a big contract.
    We believe our players are gods and when they don’t always reach that potential during a tough time for the team we bash them stupidly (see big city mayors and their astonishing lack of common sense and candor). We do this because in a sense they have let us down and being angry at them and ourselves for believing the hype and unachievable highs we set, we bash like no other fans in the world. We turn on our own heroes as if they are the opposition. We literally do not allow ourselves to support because that would admit that we are not the top team, cause nothing else is considered success. We sabotage our own enjoyment of the game and our team. We are so needy of success that anything short of it is met with contempt and an I can do better and that was obvious attitude.
    We are not so much fans as we are a tribunal of judges and juries. We are not enthusiasts we are radicals. We aren’t devotees we are addicts. We cannot let ourselves enjoy as we have made ourselves activists.
    There is no other team that turns on our own because things don’t go perfectly. Many animals engage in filial cannibalism and this is a concept we are very very familiar with.

  3. jedimyrmidon says:

    A thought on Bouillon:

    I think he’s a serviceable 6th Dman. But his connection to Therrien makes him an impediment to the team because Therrien will keep going back to Bouillon for no good reason.

    I want to see Therrien be like Torterella who put his relationship with Brad Richards aside and indeed damaged it in order to push his club further: I would hope that Therrien could sacrifice his relationship with Bouillon if necessary – so far, I don’t think that’s the case.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I don’t understand this certainty that Michel Therrien will overplay Francis Bouillon because the latter is the teacher’s pet, based strictly on hypothesis. We have no evidence of that, of Francis being played ahead of a better defenceman. The fact that it’s being discussed as a ‘fait accompli’ speaks more to the conspiracy-minded HIO Commentariat than to actual reality.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2013/11/alexei-emelin-returns-francis-bouillon.html

    • joeybarrie says:

      If Therrien is using Boullion based on no good reason other than loyalty or nostalgia, why is it he played an additional 3 minutes per game for most of his time in Nashville?
      Is it possible maybe we are the ones who are wrong and the guy who coached over 1000 professional hockey games might know a bit more?

    • Tyhudg says:

      Bouillon has played good hockey this year…. if Therrien trusts Bouillon it is only because he is a dependable, experienced Dman who more often than not (couple bad exceptions last night) where he is supposed to be. He is also tough as nails and puts the team first all the time. What is with all the hate for FB???? Anybody who knows hockey knows he is an extremely valuable piece to this team. Sure his days are numbered, but he has gas in the tank and he proves it every single game.

    • on2ndthought says:

      Torts wrecked the Rangers, stifled Gaborik and Nash. He is interesting, as in “may you live in interestin times”

      “a cannonading drive”

  4. Un Canadien errant says:

    On Pat Hickey’s article on the slow uptake the Columbus community has for hockey and their Blue Jackets, I wonder how much of his opinion is formed by the absence of vandalism caused to his vehicle.

    Does he have accelerometres in his trusty Honda that detect the impact of fists and boots and beer bottles, so he can rate a city based on the number of hits, the aggregate pounding received, or the peak impact?

    Does he have a ‘tires slashed-windows broken-body panels keyed-amount of sugar in the gas tank’ index?

    Does it rate on a 1 to 10 scale, or is there a constant “Philadelphia Unit”, with individual cities given appropriate scores, with Toronto scoring 0.6 Philadelphias, Buffalo 0.2 Philadelphias, Ottawa -0.1 Phillys but rising, and Boston 3.0 Phillys? Did Columbus rate a zero Philly?

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    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  5. jedimyrmidon says:

    It’s frustrating when people seem to be criticizing Bergevin for 1) not making a ‘big’ move to improve the club and 2) only making patchwork moves.

    They don’t seem to have considered the following possibilities:
    1) There is no ‘big’ move worth making for the Habs at this time for the right price and getting the right players back (players of a certain age, size, skillset, contract length and AAV).
    2) Making a big move for the sake of a big move is absolutely foolish and reeks of politics (doing something big in order to appear to be doing something).
    3) If a mistake were to be made in a big move, the repercussions will last a FAR longer time than a number of small moves that last 1 or 2 years. This cannot be emphasized enough.

    I approve of Bergevin’s approach so far. I don’t like the Bouillon and Desharnais and Briere contracts any more than most people, but they are short (except for DD). But I’m also glad he hasn’t gone out and signed a guy like Clarkson to 7yrs at 5.5M, which would be far worse. The club isn’t ready to take the next step yet, and until that’s the case, making a big move for an important player is likely to cost the Habs the very players that will be expected to lead us to a Cup in the future.

    Bergevin is sticking by the plan he announced when he first took over and yet people continue to be surprised that he’s doing just that.

    • JF says:

      Excellent post. Bergevin is sticking to his long-term plan of improving the team and correcting the balance largely through drafting and development. The moves he made over the summer were strictly short-term, stop-gap measures designed to make us competitive now. Even the Desharnais contract, disastrous as it looks at the moment, will not handcuff the team severely for very long. The one big move Bergevin made – luring Stephane Waite away from Chicago – will continue to have a big impact once all these short-term measures have become history.

      Recognizing this should be enough to tell us we need to be patient, but unfortunately it makes for a noticeable lack of enthusiasm among fans (here at HIO, at any rate).

  6. Mark C says:

    For all the fight fans out there, here’s Thrower walloping Shinkaruk in last nights line brawl.

    http://youtu.be/SUO2Bojm5YY

  7. Eddie says:

    Mike McCarron strikes me as a fine young man who happens to be huge. I don’t have Chris’ and UCE’s writing skills, or patience, so here it goes, a little advice for Big Mac.

    Mike, hit everything that moves. Eat everything that’s not alive!

    Once that’s done, do it again!

    A big player that hits and plays extremely physical? That’s something to build on.

    • stephen says:

      As I said this morning in my observations of his play in last night’s game, he seems tentative to really lay into guys. There were a few occasions when he could have really pasted someone in finishing a check, but instead went with a more ‘cursory’ hit.

      I think if he can really hone that aspect of his game, he will immediately become a more impactful player, if you’ll pardon the egregious pun.

    • Chris says:

      Agreed.

      He came into the OHL with a reputation for physical play. It has not really manifested itself yet, but he’s made it clear himself that that is the style he wants to personify.

  8. ProHabs says:

    Are these rumours of MaxPac for Evander Kane coming from people like Bob Mackenzie where there might be some truth to them or are they being reported by drunk bar patrons.

    It is a rather interesting trade to consider.

  9. habcertain says:

    on the Columbus feed, it showed MT with this huge smile after DD scored on the shootout, he was so proud of his baby!

  10. Un Canadien errant says:

    About René Bourque, the thing to remember about him is that he’s not a high-intensity, high-motor guy. We knew this going in when we acquired him from Calgary, we gave them our headache Mike Cammalleri, and they gave us theirs. He was being vilified in Cowtown for being uninterested and not physical enough, except when he went at opponents with blind-side hits and flying elbows and was being suspended. So what we knew about him when the trade was announced was that he was a big winger who could pot goals (two seasons of 27 goals), has a low cap hit ($3.3M), and can sometimes appear uninterested or uninvolved.

    And that’s exactly the player we have. He’s on pace for a twenty goal season, he gets shots off on net, he works reasonably hard and skates well, and is not a problem on the balance sheet or in the dressing room. He’s not a liability like a Kostitsyn or a lightning rod for controversy like a Maxim Lapierre, just a guy who gives what he has and does not hurt us when he’s on the ice.

    René Bourque’s biggest problem is that he’s not Rick Tocchet or Curt Fraser, guys who did a bit of scoring but were a lot more showy on the ice, they crashed and banged and were ‘fiery leaders’. René is more low-key. You look at him and wonder what he could be with his size and physical gifts, but that’s always a tricky game. Other Canadiens like Gilbert Delorme and Mark Hunter and Murray Wilson also seemed like they should be more dominant based on their size and strength or speed, and they contributed, but the expectations are what ultimately soured fans on them. For every great surprise like Mike McPhee or Andrei Markov, there will be some players who perhaps underperform in our eyes. Our best course of action is to compare players against others in the lineup, and measure their effort, not hold them up to the standard of our daydreams.

    And let’s not discount the effect that the two suspensions he incurred as a Flame, for illegal hits against Brent Seabrook and Nicklas Bäckström, the subsequent backlash by the media and opposition fans, as well as the concussion he suffered after a sucker punch by Colton Orr, may have had on his game. He may, actively or unconsciously, have tempered his game a little bit, moved away from the big spectacular hits, and decided to keep his head down, his nose clean, and just play hockey, try to get the puck and score goals. In a way, that’s the direction the league says it wants to go, that’s the way the league should go if it does put a value on players’ long-term health. So to accuse René of playing soft is being willfully blind to the circumstances and the background of the player.

    If René pots one tonight and a couple next week, this momentary scrutiny will all be forgotten/’forgiven, and we’ll move on to another whipping boy.

    • stephen says:

      Bourque is the antithesis of Gallagher in many respects, but one particularly noteworthy way is that he isn’t the sort of player who consistently creates opportunities for himself, but instead feeds off his linemates.

      Nothing particularly damning about that. There are dozens of players like that around the league. Just something to keep in mind for those amongst the fanbase who seem to expect him to bring more to the offense.

      Who were his linemates for those two ‘prolific’ years in Calgary?

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Good post – agreed. RB was certainly more of a wrecking ball on skates prior to the suspensions in Calgary, but ok with his size, speed, and moderate two-way skill. He does tend to be inconsistent. The minor downside of that trade is that we currently do not have anyone on the team that is a pure sniper like a Cammalleri.

  11. Un Canadien errant says:

    Links to the National Film Board’s short films made based on “Le Chandail de Hockey” by Roch Carrier.

    En français: http://www.nfb.ca/film/chandail_le/

    Dans la langue de Monsieur Eaton: http://www.nfb.ca/film/sweater

  12. Maritime Ronn says:

    Whether one likes or dislikes the hockey played by Davey Desharnais, Habs fans have to be rooting for him for several reasons.

    It’s all about the Bigger Picture, and what’s best for the Habs both today and moving forward.

    As Habs management surely realise, Desharnais was never/will never be, a Top 6 on a legitimate Stanley Cup contender because of the rugged, rough, ‘whistles in pocket’ NHL Officiating mentality when it comes to the Playoff Hockey.

    A walk down memory lane when the Bruins mauled the Sedins in the 2011 Cup Final is enough evidence and proof.

    There are really few options now, as GM Bergevin would never find a trade partner with that contract.

    There are some that suggested to send him to Hamilton, yet what does that accomplish and what may be the repercussions?
    Few believe he would ever be claimed at this point.

    Sending David to Hamilton does not save Mr. Molson 1 cent in Salary, as David would still be paid at a rate of $3.5M per year because of the 1 way contract.

    Cap Hit?
    The new 2013 CBA has new parameters known as the ‘Redden Rule’ that does not allow a team to bury a contract in the AHL.
    The Habs would still carry a Cap Hit of $2.675M even though Desharnais would be in Hamilton.
    Almost nothing gained there.

    Unintended Consequences?
    How would the low earning youngsters in Hamilton react?
    Would there be chemistry and team spirit issues?
    Would a player needing development minutes be pushed down the ladder?
    What happens if he would fail there?

    The bottom line becomes this:
    Desharnais needs to get his game going, and he needs to get it going on the 3rd-4th line.
    If Coach MT needs to sprinkle some secondary (not primary) PP time, then so be it.

    A somewhat productive 3rd line Center could certainly help the Habs, and also bring forward some potential trade value that is non-existent at this time.
    An unproductive one will force a Buyout next June.
    ——
    Lastly, I would enjoy a debate with anyone as to why the contract given by Bergevin was correct ‘at that time.’
    It was!

    Now before the HIO howling starts and accusations of craziness, please verify the following and come prepared:

    – Desharnais stats 2010-11.
    – Desharnais stats 2011-12.
    – Desharnais stats 2012-13… up to, and when the contract was signed.

    – The Desharnais RFA status at that time.
    – What would have been the cost of Arbitration.
    – Comparable Centers production with a Cap Hit of $3.5M
    – Did you actually predict the ‘fall off the cliff’ of Desharnais

    – Who exactly were the Centers on the Habs depth chart when the contract was signed, and how were they performing.
    Please name them, and provide the details.
    ( Hint – Eller had been benched and was going nowhere at that time, and Galchenyuk had all of 27 NHL games under his belt playing on the wing..so it was Plekanec and…)

    • otisfxu says:

      “Who exactly were the Centers on the Habs depth chart when the contract was signed, and how were they performing.”

      Not sure how this justifies giving DD a large contract. If all your centers sucked at the time, you don’t pick the least suckiest and open up the bank. Otherwise there would be 3 players on the Sabres in for big paychecks, because 2 wingers and a center suck less than the others.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Non Sequitur.

      • chfan4life says:

        Agree, DD numbers from the one good season were inflated. I’m sure they have all the stats. Cole and Patches were the work horses for DD. DD dished off after Cole and Patches dug out the pucks from the corners. I’m surprised that MB gave him the amount of years. He wasn’t going anywhere. I bet you if DD walked, there were not many takers out there. I can see two years ext at 3.5 per but not four. I have nothing against DD but when MB came in and said we will be patient and build thru the draft and good player management and development, I was sold. But when the the GM makes these bone headed mistakes that will set back the team goal of building a contender a year of two. That is where the FANS gets irate. In short, DD deserved a raise but not at that length. There are better options if DD did not want to sign.

    • Eddie says:

      I am not an NHL GM, Ronn, but it was clear to me that 4 years was ridiculous.

      Hindsight is 20/20 of course.

    • habcertain says:

      yes, just like Gomez’s contract “at the time”, unfortunately isn’t the measure of a good contract signing. for me, DD put together one serviceable year of stats, and when he was signed, was not lighting any fires, which gave me pause that MB signed him to a 4 year contract, why not roll 2? his game is one dimensional, and one of a dozen of smaller forwards easily replaced, which has played out.

      • rhino514 says:

        He actually put up slightly over a year and a half of decent stats before the signing.
        His stats were not a fluke, and if you look at the person and his work ethic, you´d be less inclined to think they were a fluke.
        Furthermore, his season last year was pretty darn close to 50 points prorated per a full season, and not as bad as many on here say it was. The small differential in points was in good part due to a very subpar second PP unit the habs had.
        He´s just lost his confidence, pure and simple.
        Though I bemoaned the length of the contract, and think he´s hurting our team the way he´s playing now, the truth is, as a few on here have stated, DD getting his game back is the best scenario of options available right now to the team, if he recovers, it will be good for the team, so we should hope he does get it back, not hope he gets replaced, because we don´t have a viable replacement for him at this time.
        He´s not over the hill, he should be entering his prime years, it is still possible for him to find his game.
        The bigger question is what do you do next year when chucky, I assume, is ready totake over at centre. There´s where the length of the contract can really come back to haunt us.

        • habcertain says:

          I agree, his current value is low, vs the contract, and our only hope is he can resurrect his game. we need to shell out a few dollars at the end of the year and the cap now sounds like it isn’t going as high as many thought, but I do think MB jumped the gun, especially after playing hardball with others (PK), I don’t believe there was any great demand for DD and would have preferred a shorter term.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Bergevin had nothing to do with either signing or trading for Gomez.

    • CharlieHodgeFan says:

      Ronn – I really appreciate your postings, but here is why I would send Desharnais to Hamilton.

      He would not be claimed, with his contract.

      He could get in good minutes against weaker opposition, to get his game back. There would be less scrutiny, less pressure and less nastiness while he was rediscovering his touch. One would assume the coaching staff knows how other teams are attacking Desharnais, and would be able to send him with specific goals to work on.

      The goal would be to bring him back alive, not to bury him. His game needs development right now, and the AHL is for development.

      I like Desharnais, although his decline has been shocking. I want to see him contributing, and the only way I see that happening is if he goes back down and works.

      The NHL is a talent-thin league and every team is a small number of injuries from decline. This makes us forget a key function of the minor leagues – they are used to bring players along, whether or not they have already been in a higher league.

      The best thing for Desharnais would be AHL time and opportunity.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I agree with most of your post. We may come to a point when we have to send him down to Hamilton to regain his confidence. With his attitude, there would be no dressing room issues, he’s a humble and positive guy, not a moaner and complainer. I only take issue with your last sentence. The best thing for David right now would be for him to start clicking again with Max and hopefully René Bourque, recover the magic and the wizardly passes from two seasons ago, and for his wingers to convert those chances. That’s my best case scenario.

      • JF says:

        Agreed. François Gagnon was saying pretty much the same thing yesterday. Desharnais could hardly fail to be more effective in Hamilton than he’s been here, and a stint with the Dogs would help him rebuild his shattered confidence, probably the biggest impediment to his progress right now.

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Good post.

      Even if the situation with DD seems dire, there are other NHL teams in similar situations ..

      Michael Grabner
      Luke Schenn
      Stephen Weiss
      Carl Gunnerson
      Martin Erat
      Tuomo Ruutu

      These are players on teams with cap hits ranging from 3.0 to 4.9m $$ that are either not scoring, have shown reduced effectivness this season in regards to expectations based on compensation, and now have seen reduced TOI. All have 3-5 yrs left on contracts, and a couple have a moderately difficult trade clause.

      While there remains opportunity for any of these players to resurrect careers with current team, it is possible that a move to a different market or playing on a team that better suits their unique hockey skills might make a difference.

      So if the Habs GM truly wanted to move a DD contract, there are other teams out there that might be interested at some point this season.. either a straight up swap of underperforming contracts, or a deal where the Habs eat salary, or a multi player deal where the Habs throw in a more interesting or valuable player (perhaps Diaz or one of the Hamilton Dmen that will no doubt be caught up in a numbers game – Nygren, Pateryn). Habs can always use size, grit, scoring potential, or picks in return, even if said return comes with a wart or two.

  13. Mr. Biter says:

    Any truth to the rumor that HIO site crashed last night when MT announced DD was in the shootout? Boone’s underfeed Hamsters died a painful death trying to keep up with the incoming posts? PETA is investigating.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  14. Loop_Garoo says:

    People are already getting on McCarron for his OHL start. Does anyone remember how awful Tinordi was for the first 2/3 of his first OHL season? All the same reports, not tough, cant skate, not smart enough, half the commentators on here were ready to ditch him 0 games in as well. It takes time, especially for these big guys coming from the US system. It’ll be at least half way through next season before we even have a clue.

    Greg

    • Chris says:

      Tinordi still looks like he is a year or two away from contributing at the NHL level, and he was far better than McCarron was in his first season. Tinordi struggled, but he was still getting top minutes.

      McCarron is playing himself out of the lineup because the Knights are extraordinarily deep in forwards. I’m not down on McCarron so much as saying that any notion that he is 2-3 years away is ludicrous. He’s 5 years away, and it could take even longer than that.

      There’s nothing wrong with that timeline. Power forwards play a game based on strength. McCarron is struggling to dominate 16-19 year old kids in the OHL, so he’s going to really struggle against the speed and power of professional athletes in the AHL and, if he makes it that far, the NHL. That is simply reality.

      I’m not disputing that he’s got potential. But I don’t think the Knights are going to be patient with his struggles. They can’t afford to be patient in a year where they are hosting the Memorial Cup and where they were expecting to have one of the best junior teams in recent memory. They have goaltending and plenty of offence, but they are definitely looking at some help on defence. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them acquire Slater Koekkoek from Windsor or Anthony DeAngelo from Sarnia.

  15. Chris says:

    McCarron is much further away than 2-3 years. He’s struggling in the OHL. At his age and size, 1 goal in 19 games is abysmal. 1 assist in his last 15 games is disappointing.

    I know that he is playing on the third line, but his linemates are not slouches. Ryan Rupert had 11 goals and 45 points in 54 games last season. His twin brother had 26 goals and 47 points in 56 games. The Ruperts put up stellar numbers playing on the third line last season, and the 19 year old Ruperts and 18 year old McCarron should be absolutely dominating the OHL at this point in their OHL careers.

    The Hunters are doing what they can to build McCarron’s confidence right now, which is absolutely shattered. I’m not at all convinced that the OHL was the right place for him, especially in a Memorial Cup season with all the expectations surrounding that. I wouldn’t be surprised to see McCarron dealt soon, as the Knights are going to have to go fishing for defencemen to make up for the loss of Zadorov and Maatta. McCarron simply isn’t giving the Knights much in the way of physical play and almost nothing in terms of offence. He is expendable.

    Guelph (16-3-1-1), Erie (17-3-1-0) and Sault Ste. Marie (16-3-0-2) are all powerhouse teams in the same conference as London. All three are going to be trolling the OHL for players to push them over the top to make a run for the Memorial Cup.

    Either McCarron picks up the pace or he’s going to soon find himself nailed to the stands or traded out of town. London has been patient, and he simply hasn’t been responding.

    • CH Marshall says:

      Would taking up the US College offer still be available to him as an option?

      • Chris says:

        No. The CHL is considered to be professional, so he is no longer eligible to play NCAA hockey.

        • CH Marshall says:

          In hindsight, I wished he had taken the college route. Less pressure, a bit out of the spotlight, work out, work on skills.

          • Chris says:

            I liked the college route, but I just didn’t like London as a landing spot. They were far too deep in forwards for my liking. He was being dangled the 1st line RW position at the start of the season, and now he is being moved around the lineup to get him going. In the OHL, that is often the last step before being given up on.

    • chfan4life says:

      I’m sure if McCarron is a bust, MB will have another nail in his coffin.
      I agree it is going to take 3-5 years for him to develop but we need this type of power forward now. We have no one besides Patches and he is not overly physical and definitely will not drop the gloves. The Habs are wasting Price and Subban good years. There has to be a plan B if none of their big physical forwards do not develop.

  16. Un Canadien errant says:

    Great article by Dave Stubbs on Roch Carrier and his short story “Le Chandail de Hockey”, and how it was included on the $5 note for the last decade. I have never noticed that. I’d seen the children playing, but never the excerpt. Nice read.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Yep, brilliant.
      My 2 1/2-year-old daughter asks me to read that book to her nearly every night.

      I could probably recite most of it off by heart by now.
      Sad that it’s going.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Chris says:

      I just find it depressing that Canada’s rich scientific heritage gets honoured on the new $5, at the same time as science is being dealt body blow after body blow by government policy decisions, complete abandonment of research & development by the Canadian private sector and a weakening of mathematics skills by idiotic education policy.

      The Canadian science situation right now is increasingly gloomy. At this pace, it will be hard to find science worth celebrating for the next round of currency.

  17. Ali says:

    article entitled “redemption story for Desharnais”? lol really? Next month when’s in Hamilton I wonder what the title will be then.

  18. Mattyleg says:

    I shall be at the game tonight, making noise and drinking piss in the greys!

    Looking forward to seeing Emelin come back, and equally looking forward to witnessing the return of Rene “Hmm?” Bourque, and Max “Wha?” Pacioretty.

    Nice to see Boone suggesting something I was pointing out a couple of days ago; when Gally comes back, sit Laz-y-Bourque and see if he cares. If he does, he’ll come back mad as hell. If he doesn’t, leave him on paper-airplane detail.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  19. scotland says:

    great getting emelin back. whether its murray or boulion that sits matters not. boul in no longer a top six d. murray never was. depth guys to carry in case of injury is what they are.

    white should not sit, not with all the floaters the habs have presently up front.

  20. Phil C says:

    How do I feel about Emelin being back? Tell’em Jimmy!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhtwv3l-NJU

  21. scotland says:

    habs beat blue jackets in shoot out. jackets played night before in boston. habs needed a come back and shoot out goal from dd for the extra point. therrien says ” i liked what he saw and we deserved the win” …………when you get out shot 4-0 in ot and win in a shoot out? at best you “derserve” the tie. against a bottom feeder? coach is satisfied way to easy. but then again he was hired to be fired.

    like the kids, (egg line, pk, bournival, white), as well as markov and both goalies. the rest of this team gets out played game in game out.

  22. on2ndthought says:

    On Evander Kane, I would probably trade MaxPac for him; which probably means the rumor is hogwash. I would like to point out that John LeClair was 25 or 26 when we traded him, lots of big boys round into form slowly. Max is 24 (Kane 22!) He’s got a great package of skills, can get streaky hot, and is under contract for 5 more years. I say we keep him.

    “a cannonading drive”

    • Habilis says:

      Max’s contract is a year longer than Kane’s and a million less per season. Plus, Max is a better all around player than Kane, IMO anyhow. He’s just in a slump right now.

      We would hate this deal in 2 years, we’d despise it in 4.

      • Ali says:

        Evander Kane is a beast. With the exception of Galchenyuk I’d trade any forward on the habs for him one for one.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Kane is a nutjob though.
          He’d be eaten alive here.
          Have you seen the way he acts, and the chronically stupid/ignorant things he says?

          I know it’s about how he plays hockey, but if people are saying that PK is a distraction… Subby has nothing on Kane.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Ali says:

            True. But every player goes through it. Price partied too hard too. That kind of talent is so hard to come by, look at Dallas and Seguin.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      If we would have had computers this easy to operate and HIO back then I would have wailed about the LeClair trade as you could see his potential.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  23. Un Canadien errant says:

    Thanks to Stephen and Frontenac for their report on Michael McCarron’s game last night, it’s much appreciated.

  24. Hobie Hansen says:

    Emelin, just like Murray, Prust and Briere, really need a handful of games to get comfortable. In the 5 to 10 game range.

    Murray has looked better than he did two weeks ago. He’s pretty damn good on the PK. He’s gotten a tad quicker and doesn’t look as shaky 5 on 5. He shows a glimpse of Hal Gill here and there. I’m hoping it keeps improving but realize it could go either way.

    I strongly believe guys like Emelin, Prust and to a lesser extent Murray, are important parts to the team.

    Bottom line, if we’re going to have any chance of doing some damage in the playoffs we’ll have to be as close to 100% healthy as possible. For example, if we’re missing Emelin, Eller, Prust or have a handful of guys playing injured, we’re big in trouble. That’s been the case for majority of our playoff appearances going back a long way. We had a bit of luck one year but that’s about it. Injuries have played a huge factor.

    • formerly known as the hc says:

      And that is where the problem lies with this team. Success will always depend on everyone being healthy because there is no depth. Unfortunately, injuries are a reality in the death march known as the Stanley Cup Playoffs. Making the right changes will not be easy.

  25. Mick says:

    I bet Bouillon plays and we see more of the miracle kid DD.
    “Little David” gets to take a shot at the shoot out lottery and wins.
    Lucky him, lucky us, even the coach thought he played well.
    What drama!

  26. tofinohab says:

    super excited to have emelin back. i do believe he changes the way opposing teams enter our zone. predicting 4 or 5 wins in a row.

    • The Cat says:

      Emelin is greatly overvalued here at HIO.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Stevie.Ray says:

        This is probably true. Everyone talks about how when we lost him last year, the D went to hell, but in reality the average goals against per game last January and February was between 1 and 2 goals, but ballooned to around 3.5 in March and April. Emelin went down April 6ish, so the D problems were present for about a month. He will make the backend deeper and tougher to play against, but he is still just a second pairing guy. Happy to have him back, but not expecting him to dramatically change this team.

      • tofinohab says:

        i disagree,there are very few players who posses his skill set. size, speed,strength,and some nastiness.

      • Landof10000lakesHab says:

        Possibly. I thought he was the Habs #3 Dman by mid last season and there were signs that his offensive talents were coming through on top of his solid defensive zone work. It is likley that a ton of his confidence came from playing alongside Markov, but he should be a top 4 Dman in Habville regardless of who he is assigned. Would like to eventually see Emelin play on natural side as well.

        Hope the general expectations are lowered for Emelin the first several games, as it has been several months since the Lucic incident.

      • rhino514 says:

        He is somewhat overvalued here, but you don´t pay a guy 4 million a year if he´s not a good defenceman (and they probably took advantage of the uncertainty over his knee to sign him a bit cheaper)
        Even if he´s not himself for a while, we are much better off with him eating minutes as opposed to Cube or Murray
        But here´s the thing. I think Emelin could actually be a top pairing defenceman if given the responsibility; he definitely has more offensive capability than he has shown so far, in Russia he is an all-star who plays on the power play.
        I don´t know if he will ever get that responsibility with the habs, or if they can nurture his offensive upside properly; I get the feeling they won´t. But he could eventually be quite the all round Dman.

      • Mark C says:

        You think Emelin is overrated, have you seen the love fest for Brad freaking Staubitz?

  27. mrhabby says:

    heard a rumour in cyber space and from my oldest son…

    max p straight up for evander k.

  28. Habs1962 says:

    Emelin loves to hit like Murray… and can get there better!
    Lets get on a run and injury free run too !!
    Patch about to be ready and get some points !!

  29. Propwash says:

    The good old patented Oilers wraparound…

    http://imgur.com/gallery/85WpRht

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  30. Timo says:

    So what would it take to get Del Zotto from the Rags? Del Zotto instead of Diaz? I like.

  31. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Need to be patient with Emelin/Prust. They need few games to get in game shape & play the way they’re capable.

  32. Timo says:

    Ok, I need to find a way where I can live in Calgary only during summer time and get the f out of here come mid November. It’s already 3rd snowfall of the season and freaking cold for at least next week.

    Anyone knows of any smalls islands in Caribbean for sale?

  33. Propwash says:

    Funny how Markov was labeled as injury prone after his knee surgery and no mention of that for Emelin.
    Either way, he’s a huge piece of the puzzle for the D corps, and will greatly help the team out.

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  34. SPATS says:

    Remember last year when both of our big brass teste’s Prust and Emelin were healthy? We kicked butt and took names.

    Oh to be in the room tonight! So much character back and upbeat in there, and DD having a feel good story last night will fire up Max Pac again.

    I don’t expect an instant turnaround, but things are trending positively as we prepare to battle the Laffs, Gooins, and the rest of the meatheads.

    Parros, Murray, White all healthy… It’s about to be difficult to play in our barn in a visitors uni for the first time in a long while! :-)))

    OOH AAH – ULTRAMAN’S ON THE WARPATH
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc_kqPcRVIo!

  35. HabinBurlington says:

    Of note in the Leafs/Ducks trade, the Ducks essentially have given up on their 2009 first round pick Holland, he was taken 3 picks before Leblanc.

    Staubitz has already been assigned to the Leafs AHL team.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=436760

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      Holland did not make the most of his opportunities with the Ducks. Gets a short term shot to jump start career with the Leafs – smart inexpensive move. Ducks are likely banking on Kerdiles becoming a future # 2-3 centre on the team.

    • JohninTruro says:

      This is a GREAT trade by the Leafs in my opinion. They give up very little for a very good sized center who has had a lot of success for a young guy in the AHL.

      • Chris says:

        Holland, if he is on his game, is an excellent player. He is frustrating because his level of play doesn’t always match his obvious talent. In Toronto, he’s got an opportunity to earn a spot with good wingers and I think he can become an excellent NHL player.

        In Anaheim, he was buried behind Getzlaf. In Toronto, Holland has the highest potential of any center on the Leafs roster or in their system. Like you, I think this is an amazing trade for the Leafs and one that has the potential to become a massive steal.

        Low risk, very high reward.

        • JohninTruro says:

          Too bad we couldn’t get him for a Dietz or Ellis or something. Not that we need a bunch of centers but at 6’2 over 200lbs we could find a home for him coming that cheap.

          • Chris says:

            Montreal is not a good fit for Holland. He’s one of those guys that either has to be in the top-6 or in the AHL. He needs PP time, offensively gifted wingers and loads of ice time to thrive. With Eller, Galchenyuk and Plekanec, Montreal has no space for him.

        • chfan4life says:

          Exactly, deals are out there and U do not have to give too much if you find the right partner.

  36. Arrow77 says:

    I’m hoping to see these pairings tonight:

    Markov-Subban
    Gorges-Emelin
    Murray-Diaz

    The Gorges-Diaz pair doesn’t really work (even though they’re not nearly as bad as some people claim). Play Gorges with Emelin and let him play solid positionning while his partner is the most aggressive. Play Diaz with Murray and let him provide the speed to Murray’s size.

    I think Bouillon is probably better than Murray but he’s old and deserves a break. If Emelin starts on the third pairing, he’s probably a better fit though.

  37. Timo says:

    So DayHarNay goal last night… is it as big as Gomer’s first goal after 1 year drought? Or is it a lot bigger because he is a home boy? Did they declare a national holiday in Quebec?

  38. adamkennelly says:

    Staubitz to the Leafs…always liked that guy…half decent, quick fists…

  39. piper says:

    The Leafs get tougher with Staubitz.

  40. Habies says:

    Just like him getting the three stars tonight: 1st, 2nd, ee tretye!

  41. Habies says:

    “Welcome back Emelin. Finally.”

    Best from Copenhagen.

  42. Habies says:

    S PRIEZDOM EMELIN! NAKANYETZ!

  43. Storman says:

    Absolutely, I spend half my year in Wisconsin, I can tell you Green Bay Packer fans UW Badgers, Milwaukee Brewers fans etc.. will even turn on there superstars when they under perform and I am not talking a pro longed slump just have a bad game.. Montreal fans although as fanatic as Green Bay Fans, we are no different from endless sports cities and fan bases.. I have traveled all over North America and when high playing athletes under perform, they will be criticized part of the banter and escapism and entertainment, do you really just want to have blind faith in your team that everyone is working there hardest and are all great guys and are coached and managed perfectly, just because it is your favorite team, come on now, i truly believe ripping your team and supporting your team, its basically the same thing,, means your passionate about your team.


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