Habs’ Eller joins early list of NHL scoring leaders

The last time a Canadiens player won the Art Ross Trophy was 1977-78 when Guy Lafleur won his third straight NHL scoring title with 60-72-132 totals. The last time a Canadiens player finished in the top 10 in NHL scoring was 1985-86, when Mats Naslund had 43-67-110 totals to finish eighth.

The Canadiens won the Stanley Cup in both of those seasons.

Sure, it’s VERY early in the season, but it was interesting to look at the NHL scoring leaders following Saturday’s games and see the Canadiens’ Lars Eller at No. 3 with 3-2-5 totals in two games. The only two players ahead of Eller, Washington’s Alex Ovechkin (4-2-6) and Mikhail Grabovski (3-2-5), had both played one more game than Eller.

Eller’s linemates Alex Galchenyuk (0-4-4) and Brendan Gallagher (2-1-3) are also off to good starts.

 “I’m not surprised by the way we’re playing, but I didn’t expect we’d be scoring two or three goals a game,” Eller said after Saturday’s 4-1 win over the Philadelphia Flyers at the Bell Centre. “Some games the pucks are going to go in. You can’t expect that every game, but good things are going to happen to us if we play that way.”

The Canadiens had the day off Sunday. They will practise Monday morning in Brossard before heading to Calgary for the start of a four-game road trip on Wednesday.

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

It looks like Eller Time for Habs, by Jack Todd

The Kid Line rewards Therrien, by Pat Hickey

Kid Line shines as Habs get first win, by Pat Hickey

Team effort, Canadiens.com

Flyers fire coach Laviolette, NHL.com

Gallagher sees eye-to-eye with Briere, Stu on Sports blog

Subban’s father a big Markov fan, Stu on Sports blog


  1. John Q Public says:

    We shouldn’t place limits on what players such as Eller might achieve.
    We all want the players to be successful and when they are achieving that goal some try to knock them down.
    Eller has steadily improved year after year. Last year some writer wrote his ceiling would be 3rd line center. He’s proving that wrong. We shouldn’t place limits to their success. Didn’t Lafleur take a few years to be successful. Who knows what the future may bring.
    I for one hope he continues to skyrocket and yes finish in the top 10 in scoring.
    As for 3 on 3 in overtime, just another gimmick to feign interest.
    How about 5 on 5 for 10 minutes and then a tie. Too boring.
    Ok, then go to a shootout but pick the players name out a hat!

    • twilighthours says:

      We are looking at a 13 goal, 29 pt season. Book it.

    • Danno says:

      How about real overtime like in the playoffs? Keep playing 5 on 5 until somebody scores even if means playing until 4:00 a.m. No loser point. Either that, or back to the pre-Bettman system of wins and ties in regulation and no OT.


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    • Lafleurguy says:

      Guy Lafleur’s 3rd and 4th season stats
      1973-74 Montreal Canadiens NHL 73 21 35 56 29
      1974-75 Montreal Canadiens NHL 70 53 66 119 37

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • krob1000 says:

      People have hated Eller since the Halak trade…didn’t matter how well the guy played they only saw Jaro’s playoff performance. Eller had evident talent from the get go….some just chose to ignore it. He is a pretty solid player …lets hope he stays focused. I saw a kid named Sergei Kostitsyn who probably could have become a point per game player in the NHL too. It appears Eller has all of the tools and talent to compliment him and a great attitude..let’s hope it stays that way. I loved the line in the CH24 episode by Therrien…”you can play with a bad shoulder but not a bad attitude”….words to live by.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        People almost wanted Eller to do badly so they could say the Goat screwed us again.
        I have to say, I thought he’d be a good player, but it looks like he might be better than I thought.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • tuffguy69 says:

      It’s not about placing limits on a player (which doesn’t even make sense as a statement I might add) but about being realistic about what we expect. Everyone is going to get their panties in a bunch and ready to throw onto the ice next time they see Eller only to be disappointed that he’s not the second coming of Lafleur. Stu is being entirely imprudent in making this comparison. It’s been two games, if he’s still dominant after 25 maybe we can start talking then.

  2. Marc10 says:

    Lots of back and forth on Briere and Vinny. At the end of the day it’s worth remembering that MB was likely targeting Bickell before either of those guys.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Bickel was signed before Free Agency. I still would have preferred not picking up Briere at all. Kept Ryder or signed Morrow…if not develop from within.

      Take this with a grain of salt as I have never been a Briere fan

      I think the part I found funny about MB after talking about getting another small forward is that no one wants to give up a bigger forward when Morrow who is just as injury prone as Briere was on the market for less dollars and is a much better fit for what the habs are missing in their line up

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I viewed the signing of Briere with great trepidation. He is indeed yet another smaller forward being added to a lineup which already had numerous smaller forwards. Having said that, Briere does bring a certain element which was lacking on our team, that being a sniper/point getter. This team has lacked finishers for some years now. Having said that, we could be seeing Eller become more of a finisher, and we certainly expect/hope that Galchenyuk indeed becomes a bonafide pointgetter. Gallagher I suspect is always going to be a guy who has to work for every point he gets, and I don’t expect him to be a 30 goal scorer, but hope he proves me wrong. He doesn’t need to get that many goals every season to prove his worth.

        To me, my hunch says that MB plans on moving somebody out via trade this year, and that the acquisition of Briere only enforces that feeling. We shall see….

        I never wanted us to re-sign Ryder, as I just don’t like how at times he appears to float and refused to his size. Morrow perhaps would have been a good fit, but I still hope that Briere will show his worth. (hope)

        • Kooch7800 says:

          I hope you are right on the trade front Burly. DD and Briere are very similar playmakers and that is why I don’t think they are clicking that well together and they both look lost at times.

          I am not much of a Ryder fan either but he does put the puck in the net and has a cup as well. Briere scares me as he hasn’t been a real asset in the last couple of years and when he was great in Philly they had a very physical team around him. That is something the habs top 9 doesn’t have.

          The reason I like Morrow is he also brings that captain type leadership and he plays physical and has good hands if played with the right players and it showed last year when he went to the Pens. Both Briere and Morrow have the same knock though…injuries.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • tuffguy69 says:

          You’re probably right about the trade. We’ve got a full line up right now and as young guys are called up to play and prove they should stick around we will have to make room for them. Christian Thomas and Louis Leblanc seem most ready but Nattinen, Holland, and Andrighetto might surprise.

  3. CommunistNapkin says:

    Hey all,
    LONGTIME reader, first time poster. Does anyone know if theres a way to watch the first episode of 24CH online?? Can’t seem to find it anywhere.

  4. Morning Peoples

    Not much to say except for this.

    That Raymond shoot out failure the other night is against the rules. He stuttered half way through the spin. That’s not forward momentum.

    Here’s how you fix it. ATTENTION GOALIES

    The next time Mason Raymond comes at you in a shootout, you drop the stick and level him with a good clean hit to the chest.

    You do that to every single clown on ice who’s not talented enough to pick a corner or deek.

    Hate it!

    Shane Oliver
    Twitter @Sholi2000
    Custom Sports Figures
    Summit Member

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Spinorama should never count. Shootout is a gimmick. Never liked it and never will

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • krob1000 says:

      A clean hit by a goalie?

      • If a player has the puck he can be hit by any player on the ice. I am sure there is a rule about shootouts, but as far as I know if the goalie wants to level a player with the puck, he can.

        The puck would most likely go into the net while doing it, but if you’re in the right situation to do it, then I guarantee you’d a get a standing O…..unless you lost of course haha

        Shane Oliver
        Twitter @Sholi2000
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        • krob1000 says:

          That is fine if you are also conceding that other hits that all other hits that are deemed “clean” are ok too…most of us feel that is what leads to a lot of the other issues that yourself and others are against.

    • twilighthours says:

      The spinorama is a travesty (Timmy Thomas-style).

    • Cal says:

      Hate the shootout, but your idea for the goalie to attack the shooter by throwing a check is excellent.
      Can you imagine Billy Smith or Ron Hextall doing that? Hilarious! 😆

    • ClutchNGrab says:

      Since the NHL stipulates:

      […] The rules governing the shootout shall be the same as those listed under Rule 24 – Penalty Shot.

      The rule is the following:

      The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion.

      There is no mention of “forward momentum”.



      The goalkeeper may attempt to stop the shot in any manner except by throwing his stick or any object, or by deliberately dislodging the goal,in which case a goal shall be awarded.

      No, mention of a good clean hit by the goaltender…

    • tuffguy69 says:

      Supposedly the NHLPA didn’t approve that rule change and thus the spinorama is still legal, albeit temporarily.

  5. ClutchNGrab says:

    Nice discussion on the value of shootout vs 3-3 vs the comeback of tie game.

    There is one thing that is annoying in the current system, the number of points per game. To me, that HAS to be a constant, it was the case prior to the introduction of the shootout. If there was a win in regulation, one team gets 2 points, the other zero, so the total number of points was 2. If there was a tie, each team had one point, the total was two. So before each season with 30 teams, you knew how many points would get attributed on an 82 game schedule: 2460.

    With the current system some games are worth 2 points (win in regulation) others are worth 3 (win in OT or SO with on point to the loser).

    The logical thing to do if we want to keep a winner is to have 3 point games, where a win in regulation gives you 3 points, and a win in OT or shootout gives you 2 points with one point to the loser.

    • Danno says:

      Just get rid of overtime during the regular season. A tie is one point each. A win is two points. Simple and good. But the league will never go for it because OT is a money maker and that’s all that matters.


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      • ClutchNGrab says:

        Well… my first live hockey game was a zero/zero tie between the habs and the sabres, I wasn’t too overwhelmed. Especially during the final minutes of the game where it was evident none of the teams wanted to give the final goal. They were dumping the puck and changing lines, it was hard to watch.

        There is certainly a benefit for the fans as well to have a winner.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      That makes sense to me. Reward teams that work their butts off to win in regulation.
      Not sure how historians would feel about it, but times, they are a-changing.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  6. frontenac1 says:

    @uce. Thanks for the Chargers report amigo. Last week I bet the Cowboys. This week I bet my Chargers! They’re killing me.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Never bet against your team. You can bet for it when victory is assured, like tonight against the Raiders, but when you expect a loss, don’t bet. Pete Rose can ‘splain it to you.

  7. Mike D says:

    A humble suggestion for the Gazoo regarding HIO’s next poll question:

    Do you think DD will finish his contract with the Habs?

    The keyword there being ‘think’, as opposed to ‘want’.

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny
    The CH stands for CHaracter…(apparently)

  8. rhino514 says:

    About a year ago today Pierre McGuire declared that Eller didn´t have enough hockey sense to become a top six player.

    He´s already at top six level and has not reached his ceiling, plus i see some slowly growing leadership qualities which bring Saku to mind.

    What a difference a year can make. Eller´s a nice young man, it´s nice to see the change.

  9. DipsyDoodler says:

    Is Lecavalier’s contract that bad? $4.5M/yr until he is 37. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like the guy and I am happy we didn’t sign him, but he could prove to be a bargain for the Flyers. 32 pts in 39 games last year not playing with Martin St.Louis.

  10. scavanau says:

    Morning people. Flipping through the channels last night I got a glimpse of that “Battle of the blades” show. PJ Stock? Really? PJ Stock?

  11. Habfan10912 says:

    The Raymond spin-o-rama move Saturday night gets another “I see nothing” response from Daddy.


    • Danno says:

      It’s stupid. The league is discrediting itself in the name of entertainment. Ken Holland had an idea worth considering. After five minutes of four on four the overtime would go to playing three on three. Chances are somebody would score and we could avoid the shootout which is a farcical way to break a tie. Better yet, go back to the old days and have tie games again.


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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Unfortunately, I think the entire process in how they end games has become so warped that I am not sure how they fix it.

      Who would have ever believed back in the 70’s or earlier that the league would mandate a period of play (reduced mins. granted) where both teams have to remove a player from the ice. Just the same, those same people would have been left head scratching if they then saw a shootout decide outcomes of games and points awarded to teams who lose.

      In order to change/improve the current OT/Shootout rules, the league would first have to acknowledge that the present systems requires repair. Mr. Bettman doesn’t strike me as someone who is eager to admit his first idea wasn’t so good.

    • Mike D says:

      Read the article you linked and once again get the impression that the league is intentionally blurring the lines. I don’t remember if it was Bill’s or Danno’s post last week that had the satire on how fighting is against the rules….but allowed so therefore not against the rules…but then penalized so against the rules…and therefore not REALLY against the rules. I got the same impression reading Colon’s (intentional mis-spelling) quotes.

      – Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny
      The CH stands for CHaracter…(apparently)

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      If you’re going to have a shootout then why not have the spinorama?

      Heck, allow props while you’re at it. Smoke bombs. Water pistols. etc …

      • Habsrule1 says:

        My biggest issue with the spinorama is that if a goalie would really move to make that save, there would be a better than average chance of an injury. The goalies are almost defenseless.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  12. Cal says:

    Nice add on, linking the previous night’s NHL highlights package.
    Long wait until Wednesday, but the practice time may improve the 3rd lines- DD’s- play.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Cal. Is it quite possible that DD is just not strong enough to play in this league unless he’s protected by 2 BIG wingers? I think that’s the case with him. Since he’s on our team and he’s a long term above average money player the coach needs to provide him with that in order to succeed.
      We can bellyache all we want about the fairness or unfairness of this but he’s ours and the only way he’s productive is to have him on a line with big bodies.
      I suspect he’d be difficult to move, he can’t play 4th line minutes so I think this is the only alternative.

      • Cal says:

        Habs are stuck between a rock and a hard place with DD. They clearly wanted to reward him for his hard work, but 2 years would have been enough. He ain’t no Marty St.Louis.
        Patches won’t last having to be the muscle for that line. He’s not that kind of player. Put DD between Prust and Moen, just for a laugh.

        • Walmyr says:

          Every time we talk about him we have to change our forward lines…brake the EGG’s line…put him between our tough guys (Moen, Prust, Bourque)…
          DD is the man odd in this team…for sure…and I believe we will talk about him for a long time…

  13. Lafleurguy says:

    Eric Duhatschek’s nice overview of sundry early season happenings (warning, Halak and Eller are mentioned)

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Guy! Glad to see Halek is being given every opportunity to secure the #1 spot. His issues always seem to be not on the ice but getting ON the ice. I hope he avoids injuries this seasons. He’s in a perfect place to succeed there.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Hiya J.! Quite a crash on the Indy car side of racing. Jaro has been solid ever since he had a 9 or 10 shut-out season with the Bulldogs. Blues missed the playoffs the year he started 62 games right after the trade. But then the Blues prospects matured and they are a team on the brink of success.

        “May you live in interesting times.”

  14. habs1992 says:

    Can we fire the schedule maker, this is stupid

    I support Carey Price
    “Habs Insider”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning 1992. We were spoiled with the compressed schedule for sure last season but I have to agree with you that this years schedule is bizzare. Could be worse, we could be the Rangers stuck in sunny California for a week between games.

  15. cashbagg says:

    The fact that this team hasn’t had a player crack the 100 point barrier in almost 30 years is shameful.

  16. Marc10 says:

    To be fair, Vinny couldn’t say he went to Philly because Snyder and Holmgren are Dumb and Dummer. It’s a terrible contract.

    Good luck to him. When it’s done, Vinny will get booed on both sides of the border. At least he’ll have enough coin to get himself some decent earplugs.

    • SlovakHab says:

      Could he be the first NHL player to be bought out twice in his career?

      • Walmyr says:

        Good morning people…
        I was just looking the table and I saw The Flyers is 0-3…
        I know is too early…but I think their coach will be on hell of pressure for the next couple of weeks…

        • Habfan10912 says:

          Morning Wal. Say Ash posted betting odds yesterday and he was leading the pack.

          Current Vegas Odds:

          Peter Laviolette (PHI) 2/1
          Bob Hartley (CAL) 5/2
          Kirk Muller (CAR) 3/1
          Mike Yeo (MIN) 4/1
          Claude Noel (WPG) 9/2


        • Hstands4Hockey says:

          They need to get Hal Gill in there & bring Laughton up from Oshawa – some questionable personal decisions.

          Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!

  17. Un Canadien errant says:

    By popular request (well, maybe just Frontenac), here is the link to my recap of the Chargers game.


    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Thank God I did not stay up for that…geezus.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  18. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …there are some things that Jack Todd says that make it very difficult to like him …there are other things, obviously, he says you agree with now and then

    …one of the latter is re the non-Lecavalier signing: “Sometimes, you also need to be lucky enough not to make a deal you were trying to make: Canadiens fans should have been cheering Vincent Lecavalier rather than booing him Saturday night, because had Bergevin signed Lecavalier, it would have cut radically into the minutes available for Eller — who at this point might already be a better player than the Flyers veteran.”

    …I could not say it better Myself

    • Da Hema says:

      I agree. I didn’t appreciate the Briere signing either. It is difficult to understand why Bergevin thought signing a declining player from a middling team would somehow make his team better. If the Flyers, who are at best a below average team, concluded it was better off without rather than with Briere, then Bergevin’s reasoning remains more or less a mystery to me. And I am certainly not mollified by the “Briere’s a point per game playoff performer” argument.

      • tuffguy69 says:

        Maybe he’s anticipating unloading a contract when one of the youngsters shows they’re ready.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …to be kind to Bergevin, He could not put His bets down on Our young prospects being ready

        …2 years for Briere makes slightly more palatable sense than taking on the balance of a Lecavalier contract

        …I, like Yourself, hold My nose speaking about either of these beyond their due dates carpetbaggers …but Therrien is a Quebecer that Himself came in from outside the Habs’ organization, and doesn’t see it from Our perspective

        …that being said, We have to be excited about Our youth and how They are being nurtured

        • tuffguy69 says:

          Why are you unnecessarily capitalizing your pronouns?

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …why don’t you go back working out in the gym so You can get tuffer ? 🙂

          • tuffguy69 says:

            Unnecessary. I am Tuff Guy Supreme. But I was curious, it was only partly a troll comment.

          • Habitant in Surrey says:

            …free World My Friend …keep on truckin’ if You don’t take Me seriously 🙂

          • petefleet says:

            I asked him the same thing about a year ago. I find his posts very hard to read and annoying so I mostly ignore his posts. The content of his posts could make him different, he doesn’t have to cap pronouns for that. Oh well, keep skipping.

            “You can’t believe everything you read on the internet”.
            Abraham Lincoln

            ***Go Habs Go***

      • SUMO says:

        You could also make an arguement for the Douglas Murray signing as well. Jarred Tinordi looks very poised back there.

      • rhino514 says:

        The Briere signing is a risky move.
        I think Briere was brought in for the playoffs point final. I think if the habs win a couple of rounds and he does well, the gamble will have paid off.
        I also do question the playoff reputation, because if a player is washed up (or almost washed up) I question wether a player can just flip the switch at playoff time and be his old self.
        I would have preferred giving Bournival a chance, or Leblanc if he gets off to a good start, or even moving Prust up. In any case, I believe the eight million coughed up could have been put to better use.
        I think Bergevin concluded after last season´s early exit that there were enough young guys on the team and more playoff proven leadership was needed.
        But if you look at the team´s history, they have been an very tough team to play against in the previous two playoffs. The first run was a long one, and the second appearance came within one shot in overtime in game 7 of overthrowing the eventual Stanley Cup champions. The leadership core of those teams in still largely in place. I question how much more Briere really brings to the team; as has been noted there is probably a limit to hw many small forwards you can carry on a team. The local boy made good aspect may well have been the deciding factor, as i am sure the team will sell tens of thousands of extra jerseys with his name on them.
        Nevertheless he´s on the team now and we should pull for him.

      • Phil C says:

        Briere’s buyout in Philly was more of a cap move than hockey move. You could argue that he would still be there if his cap hit was $4M instead of $6.5M. That buyout didn’t even cost the team that much because his contract was front-end loaded.

  19. cprince says:

    Does any one know what the delay was (I think) in the 2nd or 3rd period where the ref had a paper from the time keeper and brought it to Laviolette then to Therrien? Never did hear anything about it after… and I am damned curious!!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Sergio Momesso and John Bartlett were wondering the same thing. I listened to the game on the radio…

    • bigjames says:

      I heard that it had to do with figuring out who was on the ice for an icing call against philly… may be wrong though..

      • DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

        That’s what they said on RDS, icing call, then break in the action, they didn’t remember who was on the ice at the icing. Had to check with the video, then take it to the Philly bench as they had iced it.

  20. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …are We still drunk and giddy, after 2 games, that Lars is one the NHL’s scoring leaders

    …I guess Habs Fans will take what They can get, eh ? 🙂

  21. Fransaskois says:

    I think the best comparable for Lars Eller will be Mikko Koivu. Similar playing style, size, development pattern etc. I will be ecstatic if he turns out to be a similar player capable of similar minutes and responsibilities (i.e. high-end #2C with size and two-way ability, ~60pts).

  22. Un Canadien errant says:

    Painful watching that video of Vincent Lecavalier trying to justify his decision to sign a contract with Philadelphia to the assembled Montréal media throng.

    “It’s a good sport town”, he says, “they have football, baseball…”

    Convincing stuff. When was the last time a professional athlete chose a team because its city had other pro teams, in other leagues? Even Dion Sanders and Bo Jackson didn’t choose based on that, and for them that would have been reasonable. Dion played briefly for both the Falcons and Braves, but eventually even he commuted.

    Does Vincent know about NFL Sunday Ticket? You can watch pretty much any game any sport any time, and even then there’s something called a PVR, he should look into that.

    “They have a good organization.”

    Yes. Eric Lindros and Bobby Clarke. The Broad Street Bullies. Ed Snider. The clown circus of goalies they’ve employed (humangous big hello to you, Ilya). I’d focus in on the house that Bobby built, like a laser, if I was in his shoes too.

    It’s unsettling to see him squirm, but also because he’s lying to our faces, and we’re expected to act as if we believe it. We’ve heard mendacity by suppurating NHL dissemblers before, stuff like: “I looked down at the puck and was continuing on and the next thing I know I look up and he’s coming out full speed at me. Obviously it was a hard collision and I did everything I could just to brace myself.”

    Or, “It looks really bad. All I can do is tell you the truth, and my finger getting stuck in my glove is the truth.”

    And the classic: “With the right economic system we can take the pressure off of (sic) ticket prices, and I believe with the right economic system, many, if not most of our teams, will actually lower ticket prices. I believe we owe it to our fans to have affordable ticket prices.”

    Now, the three disreputable gasbags who made the statements quoted above were saying whatever was necessary to save their own skins, to try to leap out of the corner they’d painted themselves into with their immoral and dishonourable actions. Vincent has his fingers in the gearbox, he’s getting pulled in, he has to say something to extricate himself. And that’s the best he could come up with.

    And John Lu isn’t allowed to say: “Do you really expect anyone to believe you picked the Flyers because of the Phillies and the Sixers? Come on, tell us why, really, you chose not to come to Montréal. We don’t care why you chose Philly over Dallas or Minny, why did you decide against the Canadiens? That’s all our viewers, our readers, our listeners want to know right now. Don’t snow us about the Flyer organization. We’re trying to do our job here.”

    John Lu is a TSN employee, and TSN is a ‘partner’ of the NHL, so at best he’s an embedded reporter, if not a hostage. He has access, to the Canadiens and the NHL, but if he uses that access to do some actual reporting, he’ll lose his access, and his job before that.

    So Vincent lied to my face through John Lu when he told me why he went to Philadelphia. He sidestepped the truth like the landmine it was. He revealed even more what a small man he is.

    He could have come here and worn the bleu blanc rouge, been the biggest star in town since Guy Lafleur. Jean Béliveau told him he could take number 4 out of retirement if he wanted to. A generation of Québec children would have grown up wanting to be the #1 centre, like Patrick Roy influenced a generation to become goaltenders. He could have been the big fish in the biggest pond.

    Instead, he decided to be an unremarkable fish in a cesspool. He chose to wear vomit orange. He wanted to be on the team of Moose Dupont, Ron Hextall, Ken ‘The Rat’ Linseman and Scott Hartnell.

    He worries somewhat about the treatment his family and friends will receive from Canadiens fans. Fans who get locked out of the sport they love and own. Who are subjected to the whims of owners and managers when it comes to whether their franchise will be sold or relocated, whether their favourite player will be traded or cut. Fans whose only recourse is to renounce their sport, or keep buying in, and cheering. And yes, booing.

    The subtext of Mr. Lecavalier’s referring to his friends and family is ‘Don’t hate me. It was a business decision.’

    Thought experiment: you know a girl. You’ve always felt there was this connection there, but never acted on that, since she was not available. You were the perfect gentleman, kept everything above board, but there were signals that kept you hoping. Until her relationship ends, and now after the requisite waiting period, you ask her out on a date. And you are turned down. She says there’s another suitor. Shortly thereafter, you find out that she’s is going to Kingston for conjugal visits with Paul Bernardo.

    You’re the jilted one, the spurned one, you kind of think you were taken for a ride a little bit. There were no promises, maybe you built this up in your head, but even so you don’t have to be happy about it. Maybe when she asks you to help her move you don’t return her phone call, or if you see her stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire you stare straight ahead and pretend not to see her. You might even steer into a puddle to make sure there’s as big a splash.

    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons


    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      Here here well said. Frankly i enjoy seeing him squirm because he deserves every bit of it. I’m glad he didn’t sign here because he’s just another overpaid aging vet. This team is (hopefully) headed in a different direction now and we really don’t need to be on the hook for large contract like his when it comes time to signing Subban and Eller.

      • wjc says:

        Perception, all about perception:

        Lacavalier does not crave the spot light, wants to live in an environment where he can breathe.

        He is not comfortable giving interviews, so what?

        Explaining his point of view, saying it is a sports town with other distractions, not just him. If he were in Montreal he and his family would be under constant scrutiny. Maybe you would want that, not him.

        Under the right economic system you could in SOME cases lower ticket prices. Meaning, to me at least, if the players take a lower percentage (the stars will still be rewarded) of the total money in the big pot, teams could lower ticket prices and still profit big time.

        Now in a market like Toronto or Montreal, where demand is high, ticket prices will continue to rise because the fans will pay.

        There is more, but your post are too long and your perceptions of reality to far removed, to comment on at this time.


    • bigjames says:

      well hal gill is there too but I guess he had fewer options than vinny. (for the record I am a fan of hal gill!)

    • tuffguy69 says:

      You sound resentful. Too bad VL doesn’t owe anybody an explanation. Get over yourself.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I sound resentful? Big ups on your reading comprehension, I was trying to keep my hurt feelings under wraps.

      • Da Hema says:

        No need to be jerk, tuffguy (but I guess your self-selected name here is revealing). UCe’s worst posting would be 1,000,000 times superior to your best.

      • tuffguy69 says:

        As a second thought, VL hasn’t been good for a few years. He’s not inspiring anyone anymore unless your only criteria for admiration are that he is Québécois and has pedigree. Your reaction is indicative of the type of attitude that would cause him to choose philly over Montreal. He hasn’t even come here on an exorbitant contract in terms of length, only to disappoint fans that he can’t perform like he used to, and he’s already the recipient of this type of toxicity you’re showing. I’m thrilled he didn’t come here, Briere is too much as is. We already have a lot of young guys trying to move up at forward, especially centre, so why not give the young guys a chance.

      • wjc says:

        Hey tuffguy, I like your posts keep it up. Ruffling the feathers of the lynch mob. Continue to speak your mind and forget about popularity or selling a blog.

        Not being sarcastic, I am sincere.


    • Habilis says:

      Brilliant post!

      Today when I heard about the comments he made after the game, something along the lines of “I know now that I made the right choice”, I was upset at myself for not being among those who booed every time he touched the puck last night. See, I only booed the first couple of times, but now I wish I had jeered myself hoarse.

      • Da Hema says:

        The real justice was that Lecavalier scored a meaningless goal in a one-sided loss for his team. But he probably believes that goal is proof positive he played a good game. That would be consistent with his character.

        • tuffguy69 says:

          Angry, hostile, resentful?

          • Da Hema says:

            “Great relief” that the Habs did not sign Lecavalier, not anger nor hostility, would be the best way to capture the sentiment of my post. I should know too. I wrote it!

          • tuffguy69 says:

            feel bitterness or indignation at (a circumstance, action, or person).
            “she resented the fact that I had children”
            synonyms: begrudge, feel aggrieved at/about, feel bitter about, grudge, be annoyed at/about, be resentful of, dislike, take exception to, object to, take amiss, take offense at, take umbrage at, bear/harbor a grudge about…

            Not resentment at him signing elsewhere, but at the player himself. You seem to take pleasure in the fact that his goal bears little meaning, despite, according to your speculation, his belief that it in fact does bear meaning. Such speculation being based on his character as one prone to delusions, perhaps egoistic in nature? This appears to me consistent with at least a number of the synonyms provided, such as begrudging, annoyance, umbrage.

      • wjc says:

        So much for freedom of choice. Booing is for losers. I will leave you to decide which side of the equation you are on.


    • rhino514 says:

      If a reporter asks “why did you choose Philly over us” he is putting the player in an unfair position in my view; there really isn´t a way he can answer completely honestly without offending someone. So i think it´s a trap question.
      In that situation, you answer with whatever you can come up with. I don´t think the reporter should ask the question, but if he does, you cannot fault Vincent for not being “creative” enough to come up with a more “diplomatic” answer. Or to take option two and be fully honest; If he says there is something about the organization he doesn´t like, the fallout is huge; if he says he just doesn´t want to deal with the pressure or crazy fans, he comes across as selfish; so i understand him not going there too.
      The truth is all athletes are selfish in that they look out first for what is best for them and their families, and they are fully entitled to do so. It just doesn´t come across well if one states it publicly.

  23. habs001 says:

    Talking about having a scoring leader near the top of the league after 2 games is something an expansion franchise would write about…

  24. JohnBellyful says:

    Hey, showey47 — “I quickly skip through mad magazine to get to the back cover fold in” — you might find this of interest:


  25. Habilis says:

    FYI to anyone who missed the first episode of 24CH:

    Having missed last night’s episode myself, I did some poking around the net today and found this site. Downloaded the episode no problem.


    Is is legal? I dunno, I ain’t no lawyah!

    Works though. 😉

  26. JF says:

    Watching the Calgary Flames blow leads to Washington the other night and Vancouver tonight reminds me painfully of our Habs two years ago. Play well for two periods, build up a comfortable lead, but be absolutely unable to protect it. The other team picks up their play in the third period and increases the pressure on our defence; the mistakes start or a bad penalty is called, the lead is blown, and the Habs end up losing in OT or a shootout. At one point in the season, we had more blown leads than victories. The Flames have played three games; two of them have gone this way. It’s going to be a long season in Calgary.

  27. Caesar says:

    I can add to all the below who post about Eller. Why couldn’t he be a top scorer in this league. Many think Max pac should score 30-40 goals and PK is the best defensman in the league. Lars was drafted a head of them, and Perron,and Backland. He is a top end talent. I think a lot of the disrespect comes from talking heads saying he is not a goal scorer or will never be a great point getter. Maybe he will and maybe he won’t. Let’s judge him on what we see not what the Mcguire’s of the world think he will be. And on that note I say he is so far among the top 10 most exciting players in the league and I love watching the whole line to see what they will do next.

  28. frontenac1 says:

    @uce. Looking forward to your report tomorrow on the Chargers game amigo.

  29. Un Canadien errant says:

    Any of you East Coasters staying up to watch the Chargers game?

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Too tired…beating the Raiders is usually a given. BTW they’re in deep trouble without Freeney. There are only so many injuries a team can sustain.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I usually watch, whether victory or defeat is assured or not, to give me something to gripe or jubilate about.

        And after the first quarter, we’re down 14-0…

    • krob1000 says:

      nah too violent….going to watch flip my house, reno my basement, help me with my garden, can I decorate your living room or some other HG classic. I hope no one gets hurt doing all that grunt work though…..they should ban these home shoes promoting all of this stuff as if it is easy..people are going to get hurt using those tools and/or lead to a dangerous situation because they aren’t qualified..BAN THE HANDYMAN!!

  30. tab says:

    Dallas Eakins remarks post game reminds me of when MT called his D when coaching Pens the worst in the league.
    Based on Eakins post game comments he won’t have players working for him long.

  31. JO says:

    I’m a little confused with this fighting thing. If fighting belongs in Hockey why do they give a penalty for fighting. why don’t they let the players fight till someone goes down or runs out of gas and let them keep on playing with no penalty.

    Can someone answer this question?

  32. Bill says:

    So I got Twitter a couple weeks ago. Managed to follow Danno the other day. Anyone else here on Twitter? Post your username (if you care to) so I have some people to listen to!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  33. HabsNG says:

    Agree with you completely JUST ME

  34. Da Hema says:

    This post is somewhat brought about by Matty’s comments below questioning why the poll results indicate HIO posters do not believe Eller will be a top ten scorer. I understand what you are saying below Matty, but I think there is a difference between supporting one’s team (or players) and appraising it (them). The poll is likely reflecting the assessment side of Eller’s potential. Do I want Eller to end the season as one of the league’s leading scorers? Of course! Do I want Price to win the Vezina? Of course! Do I want PK Subban to win another Norris Trophy? Of course! From my perspective, though, the only player I mentioned above who will almost assuredly be in the running for a league elite honor is PK.

    I take umbrage with something else here. Why in the world would anyone even bring up Naslund and Lafleur in relation to Eller (as Stu clearly does)? I think everyone can see Eller has bountiful potential, but Naslund and Lafleur were elite players who fulfilled their potential as NHL players. I think it is simply silly to draw a connection between them and Eller in the very first place. Do I want Eller to be as good as Naslund and Lafleur? D-uh! Will he? Such speculation to me is pointless.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Hunger Games (craving another Stanley Cup).

    • Mattyleg says:

      As I mentioned below, the question is “do you think [Eller] can,” not “do you think Eller will.”

      I am doubtful that he will finish in the top 10 because he hasn’t proven to be a crazy point-getter yet, and many players have been able to put points up on a regular basis, but I have every reason to believe that he can, because he might have an amazing year, while others don’t manage to live up to past performances.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • savethepuck says:

        I agree with you on this one Matty. To me, the poll results suggest that 61% of those who answered the poll think there is absolutely no chance that Eller can finish in the top 10 in scoring. I think it is negative too.

        “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
        Carey Price

  35. commandant says:

    Flyers lack of goal scoring starts at the Blue Line.


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  36. tuffguy69 says:


  37. Sportfan says:

    So Phily can’t score eh maybe its because Briere is gone D:

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  38. third generation haber says:

    Something we can all feel good about!!!!

    In Baie-Comeau, Sherbooke Quebec’s Jeremy Gregoire (our 2013 6th rounder) is off to an amazing start:

    7GP/ 8G/ 3A/ 11pts./ +2/ 5pim.

    He leads his team and is 17th overall in Q scoring. He’s a hard nosed guy, and his 5 penalty minutes attest to his one fighting major. He also played in last year’s Ivan Halinka tournament.

    He’s 6-0, 187 presently. In 4 years’ time, he may have a cult following in Montreal, as a prototypical 4th line center.

    Keep your fingers crossed!

    j.p. murray

  39. Lafleurguy says:

    Ireland (Merrytimes nickname for you), the best I could dig up was:
    “Kellogg’s 1971 Robert Pelkowski Sporticature Iron-On Transfers.”
    Related, “Pelkowski Sporticature Kaumagraphs.”
    “May you live in interesting times.”

  40. frontenac1 says:

    Anybody else like the lower camera angles from the saddledome? Reminds me of the old Forum.

  41. FormalWare says:

    Hadn’t realized Yannick Weber was picked up by Vancouver. Good for him! (Good for Canucks? Meh.)

  42. Timo says:

    That picture of Parros with his little girl is precious. That picture alone says “F the NHL and the money. Nothing is worth losing this”

  43. HabsNG says:

    Hockey I/O attitude consistent and what is wrong with the CH. Everything is compared to a glorious past. What about today’s organization, players, and fans. Here is your invitation to 2013. Let’s build our own history. Are we content with a team that WAS good? Enough with past comparisons.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Douse the torches, eh? Stop the TV shots of M. Beliveau, and Le Demon Blonde, etc.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • JUST ME says:

      I sooooooo agree with you . Even though i lived through the glorious seventies i understood that we had to let go the past era when i saw and heard the young adults during the Halak streak and realized that basically if you are around 30 you have no reference to those years and could not care less but want to build your own parade.

      That basically was also the message from mister Molson when he took over: let`s build our own memories. It is not a lack of respect at all it is just looking forward and being free from everything that ties you from the past. Although we have to learn from the past, at one point we have to realize that hockey today has nothing to do with the one glorified by the elders (that includes me …).

  44. Dunboyne Mike says:

    I notice I am doubling up on punctuation points. Clear sign that it is time to go to bed. Hope everyone had a great day, and I wish you the best for the week to come.
    Sláinte, águs Go Habs Go!

  45. Mattyleg says:

    I just don’t get this site sometimes.

    We have a poll question that asks if Eller can finish in the top 10 of scorers this year, and, lo and behold, 62 PERCENT of respondants answered ‘no.’

    Why in the name of everything on Earth and imagination would anyone say that one of our players couldn’t finish in the top 10??

    He’s a young player with loads of skill and hard work, playing alongside two equally young and skilled players.

    I can’t imagine a single valid argument that would convince me that Eller can’t be a top 10 scorer; especially that most pathetic “he’s simply not a top-scorer” bullcrap that people spew because they hear it on almighty television from such visionaries as Pierre LeBrun and Darren Pang.

    I just don’t get it.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Danno says:

      For the record, I voted yes.


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    • Lafleurguy says:

      Ice time allotment M.Leg. You are probably too young to remember Claude Larose’s 8 goals in 3 games (4,3,1). Jan Bulis had a five goal game. Joe Malone, Rocket Richard. Guy Lafleur never sniped 5. Even with his four-goal game, Eller finished that season with 16. Like your optimism.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • zorro says:

      Matty I think Eller will finish in the top ten in scoring, on his team.

      • Mattyleg says:

        What gives you such a dim view of his potential?
        (apart from the ‘it’s easier to be negative than thoughtful’ excuse)

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Garbo says:

      I find your reaction equally puzzling. It’s simple. There are too many proven players in the league that are better than him and more likely to finish in the top 10. Eller has had two very good games (and a pretty good season last year). Top 10 in the league predictions are just WAY too premature at this point given the caliber of players out there.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I don’t think you read the question properly.

        The question is “do you think he can” not “do you think he will”.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Garbo says:

          Why does that make a difference? Let’s not get caught up in semantics here.

          I do not think he can be a top 10 player given the caliber of other proven players in the league.

          I do not think he will be a top 10 player given the caliber of other proven players in the league.

          Of course this may turn out to be wrong. But I still find it puzzling why you would not be able to comprehend that there is such a perspective out there.

    • Bill says:

      Not to be that guy who bashes the poll question – hey, the Gazette guys are trying – but it’s a terrible, terrible question. Poorly phrased in any case.

      If you ask, “Can Lars Eller finish in the top ten in scoring this year?”, the only possible answer is “Yes”. All he has to do is score more than the guy who places 11th.

      Anyway, you are objecting to what you perceive as the negativity of posters who dismiss the likelihood, but I sympathize with their point of view.

      It’s extremely unlikely that Lars Eller finishes in the top ten, because (a) he won’t get the ice-time needed to do that and (b) I don’t think his upside is as an elite scorer. I see his maximum upside as a big, strong centre capable of finishing in the top 30 in scoring while playing responsible defence as well. That’d be awesome.

      If you asked me if I thought Galchenyuk could finish in the top ten in scoring, I’d be more inclined to say yes. Next year.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  46. Danno says:

    Two-bit Opening ceremonies – Flames coaching staff look like a bunch of undertakers. Not happy campers by the looks of things. Cammalleri out with a hand injury.


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    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I enjoyed the awkward moment of when the coaches ran out of room on the bench and blocked the hallway rather than walking down to the end of the lower tier of the bench.

  47. Danno says:

    Canucks vs Flames on Centre Ice now


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  48. Mattyleg says:

    Good evening everyone.

    Very pleased with last night’s win, and I don’t believe that we need to single out any player/s for special criticism, because our best players played better than their best ones, and our worse players played better than their worse ones.

    So what’s the problem?

    The only issue that I would like to see adjusted is our PP. We had plenty of opportunities to put that game far, far out of reach much, much earlier.

    There will be tighter games down the stretch, and some of them might be decided by one bad penalty; I’d like to see us have better control in their zone so that we can take advantage of that opportunity when it comes.

    Mind you, the Philly PK was very strong. Lots of pressure, and great at cutting down the passing-lanes.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • twilighthours says:

      Good evening. Yes, pp hasn’t looked good so far.

      And briere has sucked 🙂

      • Mattyleg says:

        He’s been fine.
        The bellyachers on here are pleased as punch with his lack of scoreboard production because it makes them feel great about themselves as backseat GMs.

        Any expressions of upset from these poor people are actually evidence of what is commonly known as “McGuiritis,” a condition in which the subject’s frustration at not being the current GM of the Habs makes him/her overly and baselessly critical of any perceived shortcoming within the organization, from players to management, to exhibition game scheduling.

        It’s actually pretty sad, as not even the Habs winning or doing well will cure this condition. It is, tragically, terminal.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  49. jols101 says:

    Ron Hextall in, Paul Holmgren out ?

  50. HardHabits says:

    Courtesy of Danno and I

    Knock Knock.
    Who’s there?
    Halak Who?
    Halak the N. H. Eller we got in that trade

  51. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Danno! Danno! Danno!

    You won’t believe what I found!! I certainly can’t!

    Click here and shed a tear!


  52. SlovakHab says:

    Eller will still finish the season with 55-60 points max, if he is healthy. He has 5 now, but we cannot expect him to be a point-per-game player.
    He is one of my favourite Habs forwards, but I don’t expect him to be anywhere near the top of NHL scoring race. He’s a great 2-way second line center, not an offensive dynamo.

    I think many people might be disappointed if they expect 30 + 50 season from Lars.

  53. Danno says:

    Final – Canes 2 Flyers 1 in regulation

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  54. Habfan10912 says:

    Flyers with an uninspired effort this afternoon down 2-1 late 3rd. Is old Petey the first coach fired this season?

    Exit: final 2-1. Skinner with a Gallagher like effort.

  55. ProHabs says:

    Stu, I posted this article idea on the last thread at 3:36. Are you stealing my ideas for your articles. I want a royalty.

    ProHabs says:
    October 6, 2013 at 3:36 pm Two players in the top 5 scoring in the NHL. When was the last time we had that.

    “When he heard the news, our captain was crying in my arms.” MT

  56. Danno says:

    George Parros recovering


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  57. frontenac1 says:

    From previous thread. @ JK-47. Sorry Amigo. Sometimes have pints with a few ex-OHL players and that’s what they call it. A Conky. Nothing to diminish its seriousness. They know full well from experience.

  58. HabinBurlington says:

    Dallas vs Denver today, talk about all offence!

  59. jols101 says:

    @Mike, I tried to respond to your post twice but for some reason they would just disappear. Maybe a bad omen?

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Oh no!
      How do we read the tea-leaves on that?!

      For you and me (and Boone?), the distance we travelled from pre-game darkness and despair to 3rd period euphoria was one great journey!

      Bring on the Flames!

  60. Strummer says:

    Komisarek a healthy scratch for the second game in a row.

    Time to pack it in dude. I hear Europe is nice this time of year!

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  61. twilighthours says:

    Great observations by bozo (below), and HH (previous thread). Good stuff boys.

    Listen I don’t want to be a negative nelly. There’s much to like about the season so far: gorges, bork (he’s been great!), the kid line, watching tinordi learn on the job, moen’s return to life, gionta, price, subban’s shot just getting harder every year….

    But briere just hasn’t impressed at all so far. Yeah, so he makes one nice pass a game. The rest of the game he spends trying to skate through the entire team, or running around in his own zone, or ducking a hit and turning the puck over. He hasn’t even let one rip on the PP, which is one thing I was hoping for. DD hasn’t been great, but briere is the weak link on that line so far. Lets root for him to get it going.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      I disagree that Briere has been the weak link. Put Briere on a line with Pleks and Bourque and they would probably be quite good offensively. Briere can score goals and pass unlike DD whose only redeeming attribute seems to be he can pass when he has a lot of space and time.

      So I’d say DD is the weak link.

    • on2ndthought says:

      It’s the old joke about a CEO touring the company and saying ” yeah, (Milton) just stares out of the window all day; but the last time he had an idea it made the company $5 million”. It is all about what they can do when they have the puck, the D is not set, and the goalie is off balance. Stuff other players just can’t do, period.

      “a cannonading drive”

  62. Sportfan says:

    I could have sworn Kovalev was top 10 his best year with us, or at least top 20 lol

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  63. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Re. pre-game posts last night.
    You do realise, don’t you, what you and I must now do for the rest of the season? If we can keep it up, the Cup is ours!

  64. habsfan0 says:

    Grabovski has 3 goals???

  65. Danno says:

    Eller is Stellar


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  66. NightRyder says:

    Are the Gazette geezers really that hard up for interesting storylines that they must dredge up comparisons to all-time greats after two games? I miss Patrick Carnback.

  67. Hobie Hansen says:

    If you take a look at McLean in Ottawa, Caryle in Toronto and Julien in Boston, they are firm believers of sending messages and trying to change the momentum by instructing their payers to go out and fight. Who are we to dispute that?

    They are also taking their physical players aside and instructing them to run at the Habs and hopefully knock them out of the game, and it works! Why do you think teams keep tripping over themselves to sign a guy the Raffi Torres? They’re ecstatic when he knocks out a star player on another team. The won’t say so publicly but are high-fiving each other in the locker room when he does.

    Both methods are effective and help those teams win games. Is it morally right, that’s up for debate. But if it helps them win games, I want our team doing it too, no more mister nice guy.

    When Subban, Emelin, Tinordi, Prust, Murray, Parros or White see somebody in the cross hairs, when making a hit or in a fight, their main goal is to take the other player out. Just like when an NFL player is closing in on the quarterback, receiver or running back.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      “They are also taking their physical players aside and instructing them to run at the Habs and hopefully knock them out of the game, and it works!”

      Surprisingly, I think Carlyle is the worst offender even compared to Julien: the Bruins’ 4th line can play hockey and as much as I think they got away with murder in 2011 when they won the Cup, I can’t accuse the Bruins of having marginal players like Orr and McLaren on their team.

      In any case, I think the NHL is foolish to not try and eliminate this sort of mentality. Sports aren’t supposed to be about ‘eliminating’ another player. If a sport is going to be full-contact, it needs to be controlled and have FIRM limits to what is or is not permissible. The game should be designed such that taking out other players through underhanded means is NOT a viable strategy as it is today.

  68. jols101 says:

    I’m hearing rumors that there is a free-trial center ice package. I can’t find it anywhere. I’m with Rogers. Anyone know what channel I should be looking for. TX.

  69. Bozo McBozo says:

    I watched the Habs/Leafs game and was at last night’s. Clearly, Eller’s line has impressed, but I wonder how long that will go on. Sooner or later it will dawn on the mathematically challenged behind opposing NHL benches that the Canadiens’ third line is actually their first and will adjust accordingly.

    Observations from Last Night:

    The Habs played much, much better as the game went on. The question is why do they still come out of the box flatter than week-old beer? That’s on the coach to have his charges full of piss and vinegar ready to run.

    The Habs breakout is, put simply, dreadful. I saw kids from Victoriaville and Rimouski execute dozens of breakouts under pressure on Friday night. What’s with the Canadiens? This banging the puck up the side of the ice that the opposition has overloaded is just “special.” Only once last night did I see a Habs defenseman, in that case Markov, figure it out and feather a backhand saucer pass up the opposite side. I long for the glorious outlet pass of Patrice Brisebois.

    What’s going on in the faceoff circle that Pleks keeps getting tossed? It was hard to tell visually last night.

    Briere, at present, takes candy ass, useless penalties and does little else on the ice. Is he the new Gomez?

    Price was flat-out excellent last night. His puck-tracking was spot on and you couldn’t pin Vinny’s donker on him. He does that on a consistent basis and the Habs will be in the hunt.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Great observations Bozo. The Habs breakout was indeed bad. For a team that needs to utilize speed, this needs to get repaired. A couple questions.
      What is more if the issue with the breakout. Dman? Forwards? System?
      Pleks has been getting thrown out if faceiffs for two years now. Doesn’t HE need to figure it out?
      CHeers and glad you saw a victory and trust you enjoyed yourself.

      • Bozo McBozo says:

        The problem is a combination, at least it was last night. The D-man tries to continue up the side he is skating toward. Two Habs get trapped by three Flyers along the wall. The last is the Philly D-man to keep the puck in. Instead of reversing it quickly, he continues to just put it up the over-covered wall. They need to either reverse the flow quickly and go up the weak side wall, or have the weak-side winger move toward the middle to accept the against-the-grain pass. I had a great time last night. Great food, Habs win, beers at Hurleys afterwards. I think I could live in Montreal. (And, yes, I would attempt to learn French.)

    • ffenliv says:

      Roughly 2 seasons ago there was a feature on one of the networks giving a pretty clear demo of Plex ‘cheating’ on draws. He had some clever way of gaining an advantage that the league eventually cracked down on, leading to him getting tossed *a lot*

      Sometimes now when you see him lineup for draws it just looks like he’s expecting to get tossed. He goes early, takes chances, hoping he’ll get a win without getting tossed.

  70. Rugger says:

    The powers that be really need to think a bit longer before posting the poll question – of course he CAN, anyone even a goalie CAN. The question should be do you think it is likely.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      We will be in big trouble if he does come contract time. I 100 percent agree that it is a little early for that. We are talking two games here out of 82

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  71. jols101 says:

    Talk about jumping the gun on the poll question. Maybe he will also shatter Wayne Gretzky’s single season point record.

    He has played a great 2 games but lets keep things in perspective.

  72. Ncognito says:

    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do
    Two can be as bad as one
    It’s the loneliest number since the number one

    No is the saddest experience you’ll ever know
    Yes, it’s the saddest experience you’ll ever know

    ‘Cause one is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do
    One is the loneliest number, whoa-oh, worse than two

    It’s just no good anymore since you went away
    Now I spend my time just making rhymes of yesterday

    One is the loneliest number
    One is the loneliest number
    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do
    One is the loneliest
    One is the loneliest
    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do

    It’s just no good anymore since you went away (number)
    One is the loneliest (number)
    One is the loneliest (number)
    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do (number)
    One is the loneliest (number)
    One is the loneliest (number)
    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do (number)
    One (one is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do)(number)
    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do (number)
    One is the loneliest number that you’ll ever do

  73. Eddie says:

    One is a lonely number.

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