Habs clarify Subban’s security escort

AUDIO: Michael Cammalleri | Josh Gorges | Alexandre Picard | Yannick Weber | P.K. Subban | Jacques Martin

The Canadiens called this morning to clarify their role in the security escort that healthy scratch P.K. Subban had Saturday afternoon on the Bell Centre press gallery, addressed in my Gazette column of today.

The team says that senior management had no idea that Subban had this “bodyguard” with him, and at no time did senior management approve or arrange it. This was an instance of overzealousness on the part of press-gallery personnel, the team said, adding it didn’t want to be seen as paranoid in the matter of Subban not dressing for games. The club will have discussions with the appropriate parties, it said.

Any security the rookie defenceman had at his Sunday electronics-store autograph signing appearance in Laval, north of Montreal, was privately arranged. This is normal procedure in the case of events that are not official team functions.

* In practice this morning, Subban is skating as the seventh defenceman.

Will Jacques Martin alter a winning lineup for Ottawa’s visit to the Bell Centre tomorrow?

251 Comments

  1. andrewberkshire says:

    While Picard isn’t making big mistakes, he doesn’t contribute much in the way of good plays either. He’s a player who’s of no detriment, and very little benefit, basically a minute muncher. PK on the other hand is a gamebreaker who rarely causes any detriment, and if you look at the underlying numbers an argument can be made that he’s been our most consistent defenseman since day 1.

  2. habaddict_andy says:

    Dont’ get me wrong, I like what you bring to HIO, awesome read.  But I disagree.  As awesome as he may be, PK needs to realise reality that he cannot do whatever he wants to do.  The reason why Canadiens are successful so far is due to team effort.

  3. bwoar says:

    You mean JM’s gonna turn him into a white giraffe on ice who can’t skate or make a play in his own end?  This is perfect, Burke will give us the moon for him!

  4. bwoar says:

    You bash a kid for being to small, and a defensive liability, while touting Korneev?  Not strong Mikey.  I guess you missed the games vs. NJ and SJ because #68 looked every bit the NHL defenseman.  Blocked shots, threw hits, got points, looked confident actually.  I’d take Weber over either guy you mentioned, not having seen either of them turn in a similar performance in an NHL game.

  5. A. Berke says:

    +1

    Completely agree.

    Why not rest Gorges if he has an undisclosed injury or Spacek or Gill so that they can catch their breath or Picard?

    Is PK worse than the rest of our D to merit such a discard?

    Ali B.

  6. Timo says:

    Don’t have too… it’s implied.

  7. bwoar says:

    Can a bus or elephant or piano please fall on you?

  8. bwoar says:

    Wow, that’s in poor taste.  The rooks will get their shot in due time.

  9. light_n_tasty says:

    Careful, Bobby, you’re gonna get lynched. 

    The other day I made a comment that I would prefer that Gomez be on the LTIR instead of Markov.  Apparently that’s going waayyy to far for the timid hearts of the HIO community.

    But you, you said you hope that a player gets injured.  Hide Bobby, Hide!

  10. longtimehabsfan says:

    Of course you are, Timo!  I think you should change your username to “The Eternal Optimist”

  11. DearyLeary says:

    Or how about we rest the old horses from time to time to allow for some playtime for our younger talent.  No need for an injury to rest a player from time to time. 

  12. andrewberkshire says:

    What wacky ideas you have.

  13. notbigbird says:

    Folks around here rush to judgment based on very little evidence.

  14. adam76 says:

    I disagree – MArtain is letting them freewheel.  Looking back, pre lockout to now, his style of coaching is changed in almost every aspect.

  15. Timo says:

    I am still one of those.

  16. matraque says:

    We don’t notice Picard… And that is a good thing.  That means he’s not making noticeable mistakes.

    Can someone tell PK that he does not need to tear off the banners when he takes a slapshot?

    ——

    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  17. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    What??

  18. Timo says:

    O’Byrne-ization of PK has officially began. Thanks, JM.

  19. SeriousFan09 says:

    Last year we couldn’t wait for the team to get healthy so we could see what they could really do, now people can’t wait to see our veterans injured? I’m very confused…

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  20. RetroMikey says:

    Nice post but Weber is just too small and a defensive liability to makeit in the NHL, a work in progress IMO.

    Where are thou are Emelin or Korneev from Russia?  We draft players from Europe and they are playing there and not here.

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  21. avatar_58 says:

    Has everyone lost their minds a bit? The NJ game was not even a game, it was over in the first 2 minutes. The only game worth discussing was San Jose. Put the devils non-game out of your heads, they had no goalie/defence.

  22. adam76 says:

    Strange – at the start of the season, I was hoping he plays well and contributes to the team.

     

    I’m nuts like that.

  23. longtimehabsfan says:

    I admit I was one of those.  Pleasantly surprised.  It’s only two games but I liked what I saw.  You never know when these kids are going to blossom.  Let’s hope this is just the beginning of the young guns starting to blossom.

    I wrote back in the summer that this team’s success would hinge on the young players because we have a good veteran core.  So far, we have Price, Pouliot, Eller, Webber and Subban coming along nicely.  It’s a good sign.

  24. Chips says:

    RDS is saying that PK skated with Boyd as the extra defensive pair, which would imply that he’s up in the press box again tomorrow night. Wonder who got it right? I bet PK sits again.

     

     

     

    25 in 2011

  25. VancouverHab says:

    You hope that a fellow human being, and a member of the team you affect to support, receives physical harm?

    Sometimes I really dislike this place. (One of the professional writers here manufacturing a controversy in a time of success and enjoyment does not help either.)

    But, if I don’t like the free vanilla ice cream I can always fast….

  26. Bob Dobbs says:

    At the beginning of the season I hoped Spacek would get injured.

    Now I hope he gets injured to rest him as much as possible so he can remain fit for the playoffs and to let the two rookies both play.

  27. Rudy says:

    So has Weber really played that much better than he has before. The comments on here about him before the NJ game were “career AHLer”

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  28. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    You may be correct down the road, but could have picked a better time to state it.

    At  5’11″ and 198lbs is the smallest Habs D… however, Weber was +3, with 2 hits and 3 blocked shots last game.

  29. andrewberkshire says:

    Mike, sometimes I think you’re insane.

  30. andrewberkshire says:

    The justification for that move would be easy, when it comes down to it Subban is a way better hockey player than Picard. Picard at his best is pretty much what we’re seeing now, whereas Subban at his best is an elite player. Subban at his worse is marginally worse than Picard at his best.

  31. andrewberkshire says:

    If you’d have paid attention to Weber in the last two games you’d see that he’s plenty physical and very adept at using his body to separate the puck from opposing players.

  32. habs4ever2894 says:

    Really? i think he would definitely be in the leafs top six.

  33. PeterD says:

    “No physical play from Weber”???  Are you kidding me…haven’t you been watching the last couple of games…?

    Weber has been consistent at effectively separating the man from the puck without taking stupid penalties by getting caught out of position or being too agressive…to me that is “smart” physical play.

    I say let Weber play until he needs to sit…he and Subban are both talented rookies…different packages but both with a strong future if brought along properly by the organization.

    Subban needs to learn the team game and when to extert his game plan as an individual and when to hold back for the sake of the overall team plan.  I love the kid and see him as one of the best prospects in our organization…but right now he is not Bobby Orr or Paul Coffey, and he is a long way from being the next Larry Robinson or Serge Savard…but in time…the sky is the limit for the kid…as long as he plays within the team system and plan.

  34. Habifornia says:

    Although I’m a big fan of Subban, it’s tough for JM to justify making a change when the team has two huuuge wins. So I can see him having a talk with PK and saying something along the lines of  ”Hey, I know you’ve sat a couple of games, and you’ve got the message… I’m sure you’ll be better defensively from here on in. But I’m not gonna make a change while we’re winning, cause it would send a wrong message… so keep working hard and training hard, you’ll be in after a loss”. Easily handled, and PK knows exactly where he stands and that he’s not being “punished” while sitting for few games.

    Also, not sure if anyone has suggested this… if we wanna play with 7 D, then why not PK up front? I bet you he would make a helluva forward with his skating, stick handling and shooting. Just while he waits to get his spot back on D…

    ____________________________________________

    “Mr Gainey, you will not regret picking me”.
    – PK Subban

  35. avatar_58 says:

    I like Moen, I REALLY do….but he’s a damned checker. An energy guy. He doesn’t belong in anyone’s top 6, even the leafs.

  36. Julie H says:

    Hahaha. They’re all very well spoken. I particularly liked Gorges comments about not relying on one player. Interesting question to Gorges from the female reporter. Very diplomatic responce.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  37. habs365 says:

    you’re right, but I’m glad you acknowledge, he’s been over paid for the lack of productivity..he’s a good $4,000,000 player and if he was paid this amount..they’re would be very few complaints from fans. and I personally think a few team mates..he’s had team mates on his line getting paid way less and had some production..anyway until gomez can produce at least every 4 games..his name will never go away until his contract does….

  38. matraque says:

    Again, no offense to PK… What justify sitting Picard?  He’s playing extremely well.

    ——

    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related

  39. habaddict_andy says:

    Don’t want to see Weber playing forward again.  He is doing pretty as a D.  He didn’t well forward.

  40. habs4ever2894 says:

    I like the Eller line as is with Darche , JM should consider reuniting Gomez and Gionta.

  41. habaddict_andy says:

    What Gomez and Camalleri need is Patch.  Imagine that!

  42. habs4ever2894 says:

    Lol @ Cammalleri to the media “You guys are boring as shit today”

  43. shiram says:

    The difference in size between Pk and Weber is very small. One inch and a few pounds. I’m just glad we have two young great D-man.

    I’d sit Picard, but someone posted lines with Weber being left out at practice.

  44. sidhu says:

    Two comments:

    1) Get Moen off the second line, and
    2) Get Cammy away from Gomez

    JM, do me a solid and use these lines:

    AK46-Pleky-Cammy
    Benny-Eller-Gio
    Moen-Gomez-Darche
    Pyatt-Halpern-Lapierre

    OR, down the line:

    AK46-Pleky-Cammy
    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio
    Benny-Eller-Darche
    Pyatt-Halpern-Moen

  45. JohnBellyful says:

    Regarding Ron Wilson’s future, it appears the Heuters report I posted Saturday [check under Scouting the Sharks thread] was premature in announcing a shake-up involving three Canadian teams. Or ahead of its time. Or a waste of time, as some posters might have already concluded. Poster-ity will be the judge.

  46. sidhu says:

    Practice lines according to TSN:

    Forwards:
    Kostitsyn – Plekanec – Gionta
    Cammalleri – Gomez – Moen
    Pyatt – Halpern – Lapierre
    Pouliot – Eller – Darche

    Defencemen:
    Hamrlik – Spacek
    Gill – Gorges
    Picard – Subban

    Goaltenders:

    Price starting
    Auld

    Scratches:
    Boyd
    Weber

  47. joeybarrie says:

    Weber 0.5 points per game so far.

    Pk Subban 0.36 points per game.

    With Weber we have only let in 5 goals in 4 games…. So maybe you should wait before you say he is too small and not offensively talented enough….

    By the way do you really think 1 inch and 9 pounds is the difference between a smurf and a non smurf????

    Makes you sound pretty dumb to me.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  48. SeriousFan09 says:

    I remember him being a standout in the AHL last season (To the point of making 1st All-Star in the AHL) and the NHL playoffs.

    Subban is not going back to Hamilton, we you know want the Bulldogs to win a Calder Cup by having all the Habs top prospects play down there but they’re due to graduate to NHL play than that’s where they will be. The Canadiens need puck-moving defencemen this season and those two fit the bill.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  49. G-Man says:

    Lapierre is playing fine. 3rd or 4th line minutes and you talk about is points. Doh!

  50. G-Man says:

    No physical play from Weber- too small and not offensively talented enough to make up for it. Smurf D-men? Bad choice.

  51. habs365 says:

    the reason fans 2nd guess management..they can’t put a team together to win a cup..that’s what the fans want..not a team that make it to the playoffs and knocked out in a couple of rounds..it’s been 17 years since we’ve won a cup..and i know what you’re gonna say..there’s lots of teams that hasn’t won a cup in 17 years..we don’t care about other teams..we’re Habs fans, having said that..I’m gonna 2nd guess management right now..this team is good..but I wouldn’t be planning a parade just yet….

  52. RetroMikey says:

    Subban and Weber will be sent down to Hamilton IMO.

    Gauthier will be working to get a veteran DMan who can help us more defensively than on offense than the 2 kids who still have a way to go before being calibre NHL DMen.

    As much as I like Subban, his mouth will get him in a lot of hot water with his teammates.

    Remember last season?

     

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  53. Bugs says:

    Everyone relax; Soobie’ll be back.

    When we lose.

    Til then.., enh! Sucks to be him; what can you do?

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com


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