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The Canadiens have broken their training camp roster into three teams for the purpose of scrimmages and, probably, exhibition games.
Here’s how they’ll line up:
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Okay folks I REALLY need your help. Have you been to Brossard?
I’m thinking of taking 3 kids to see the Habs on Sunday or Monday.
Q1. I’d rather go Sunday but is that going to be a zoo compared to Monday?
Q2. Do we need to show up crazy early to get a seat (or decent seats)?
Q3. Is there a strategy to getting autographs? Anything else I should know… bring a blanket (kids are 7-9)… ??
Am I the only one who thinks Danny Kristo is overhyped? We drafted him in the second round in 2008 and he hasn’t set the world on fire, but some of us talk about him like he’s the Second Coming.
I don’t remember a second-rounder being so hyped since maybe Chris Chelios. General Manager Serge Savard kept telling us to wait until we see him, that he was going to be a heck of a player with a major impact on the team, so much so that the francophone media started referring to him as ‘Le Sauveur Chelios’. Lucky for us he was right.
I remember Mike Ribeiro being rushed up to the team too soon, but at that time we were bereft of hope, clutching at straws. The Claude Lemieux-Sergio Momesso draft also got a lot of hype, but that’s because we had seen those guys in junior, and we didn’t need to be sold like we did with Mr. Chelios, or are now with Mr. Kristo. Same goes with Stéphane Richer, I remember the Saguenéens being angry that he was in Montreal riding the bench instead of filling their arena, but we knew what he could turn into. When I get frustrated at Andrei Kostitsyn, it’s because I think he has the tools to have a similar impact as Mr. Richer, or at least seemed to at one time.
Some of you may bring up PK Subban, but again I think we saw him perform in the World Junior tournament and didn’t need to be preached to, we were already converted. If anything, the fans kind of thought we were being Subban-teased by the organization, we were ready for action before they gave it up.
Maybe SeriousFan09 or others who have seen Mr. Kristo play can fill me in, but I get the sense that if it wasn’t for the fact that we had traded away our first-rounder in 1998, we wouldn’t be so concerned with him. If we had kept our first-round pick, we’d be agonizing over Greg Nemisz, and how he needs to pack on some pounds and be stronger on the puck, and how he’s possibly a wasted pick who’ll never be a Top 6 forward, bla bla blah. Danny Kristo wouldn’t get any of the spotlight now trained on him.
How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?
He may be slightly overhyped by some, but evidence of his potential is not hard to find. WJCs from two years ago he was borderline dominant, and last season after coming back from the frostbite incident he WAS dominant (I watched the games, but the stats speak for themselves regardless.)
Cool, good intel to have. Hockey’s Future has him rated as a 7.5 prospect, the only other player in the Canadiens’ system graded higher is Nathan Beaulieu with an 8.
He seems to be a smaller forward, which player does he remind you of?
Team C can take Team B, and Im not just saying that cos Gomez is on team B… They also have Spacek
I beg to differ. Team A and B are the only ones with legitimate top 6 forwards. C will loose both of their 2 games. A has Cammy-PLekanec-Cole and B has Gomer-Gio-Pac.
Go! Hockey! Go!
I was just taking a light stab at gomez and spacek, but in all honesty, i think gomez will be better than last year, say around 15G 45 assists.
How come Kristo is not playing in Hamilton this year?
Good question, where is Kristo?
Easy, he’s still in college, playing for University of North Dakota. They get four years eligibility in NCAA hockey. He can drop out and turn pro if offered a contract, but I guess last season wasn’t a banner season for him and it’s more prudent to go at least one more.
thanks, was just about to post this regarding Bennett and Kristo – School starts early
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Team B lacks size and grit. How do they expect to win anything this training camp without good ol’ farm boys who’ll go to the net and keep the goons on team C honest?
Where are you PG? This is pathetic. same old thing every year. Team B hasn’t won squat in years and they won’t win anything evr again unless they address the size and grit they’ve been missing.
The way things are going Toronto’s team B will win before our Team B wins.
I’m sure there will have been cuts made by the time 9/25 rolls around that may squash everybody back in to an A and a B club, so toss PK into Team A and put them on a plane to Halifax!
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I am hearing word that Columbus was willing to give the Habs a 4th round pick for the trading rights to Markov. I can’t believe the Habs let Wiz go for a conditional 5th when they could have had an imaginary 4th!!!
But the real news is how Wisniewski is going to get mobbed when he walks down the streets of the hockey hotbed of Columbus, Ohio where season tickets are now up to 15$ per game and seats for single games are being offered to the public at the exorbitant cost of 26$.
If the NHL was Monopoly the Habs would be Boardwalk and the Jackets would be Mediterranean Avenue.
The bottom line is Canadians are subsidizing American teams.
No just Canadian teams though. Teams like the Sharks, Rangers, the wings, Bruins all make money and have to help as well.
There are for sure about 10 teams that could be taken out of the NHL.
What bugs me is the price per ticket. When it was just my wife and I, I would go to a couple games a year. I make decent money and so does my wife but now that I have kids I won’t waste my money on a game. it is insane how expensive it is and I can’t justify it. To take the family with decent seats you could go out and buy a 50 inch Televsion for the same price and watch the game at home. As I get older I am looking at things differently.
yeah u can look at it that way but also its the experience your kids will get to have by going to a game, not to mention spending time with you. its all about memories.
Probably different if you live in MTL vs. make it part of or the focus of a vacation. I might get to MTL one or two times in my life, so no doubt it’ll be centered around taking the fam to a game. If we lived there we’d probably still only go once or twice, because of the cost.
There are no bad seats at the bell center though. I spent 70 bucks to see pre season hockey at the metro center in Halifax, sat in the upper bowl and had my best view watching one of the big screens on the back side of the “luxury” boxes they’ve built that don’t really blockthe view, but sure as hell seem like they do. I’d drop $50 on the Molson Ex or Desjardins zones in a heart beat.
They lost me 2 quarts of rum, better make it up next year with a cup!
Habs are fillet mignon and Colombus is dog food… made in china…
Cammalleri – Plekanec – Cole
Pacioretty – Gomez – Gionta
Desharnais – Eller – Kostitsyn
Thats what I get from team ABC…
I agree with the top 6, and you might be right about the 3rd line, but Team C has the entire bottom 6, including Endquist who could be a dark horse. I think the bottom 6 are the only lines that are undetermined going in.
Plus he’s creating experiments for the 4th with Moen/Engqvist/White/Darche, JM already at work creating his lines.
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Basicaly everyone is ready to go except Markov.
I say let markov take it slow all the way till february, then he gets 2 months of season and rdy for playoffs.
Getting Markov for playoffs is the equivalent of selling the farm for that star player before the playoffs, except we get him for free, thats why his salary is worth it.
Of course i do question our medical staff, twice already they let him rush back into the game… I really hope they learned from those huge blunders.
Blunders? His knee injury in 2009-2010 was a result of being driven into the boards by Matt Cooke. The one in 2010-2011 was from falling awkwardly into the boards after a knee to knee hit with Eric Staal. I hardly see this as the medical staff’s fault…
“There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
– Jerry Maguire
He’s talking about the medical staff rushing Markov back, not once but twice!!!
But I do think part of the reason Markov is getting injured is less physical and is due to mental lapses.
IMHHO Markov needs to be more aware of what’s going on around him and of how to fall, or more precisely break his fall (as opposed to breaking his bones).
I think part of it was the achilles thing killed some of his agility, making it harder to avoid danger.
That’s a pretty good theory. I don’t think an argument can be made for rushing him back in the 09-10 season because he played half a season and a full playoff series without getting injured. Last year however, he was clearly rushed back, not by the medical staff but by himself.
I agree. He needs to be eased back into the line up. Hopefully he’ll only get 2nd pairing minutes at most when he does return.
Like I said before. Money in the bank and as Ian said the Habs got by without him for the past 2 years. So let’s wait for Markov to pull a reverse Forsberg or Sundin Russian style and have a come back with impact!!
I’ve noticed an effort made in the team makeups to build chemistry for the starting lineups of the season. Team A-Pleks, Cammy and Cole. Markov and Yemelin. Team B-Gionta, Gomez and Patches. Team C-Kush, Eller, Desharnais, Moen, Darche and White. There’s a bit of a systematical approach here…and I like it. Team A is highly offensive with deep D and Price. Team B C and pretty equal. Looks good. I’m getting excited! Go Habs Go!
But JM sucks. He wouldn’t have planned that. I think he drew names out of a hat and got lucky.
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Seems like no one is that injured or they wouldn’t even be listed for the scrimmages, right?
Markov is listed… hmmmm… I dunno. Could someone please confirm?
I guess we’ll know more later today after physicals or tomorrow when these squads hit the practice ice. I’m sure our reporters will have an eye on what he’s doing in the morning, if anything.
Its just amazing how much talent we got this year and in the pipelines
Also, why is team A quite stacked? Arch Atsvin Leblanc Plek, Camm Cole … Vodkov *(Markov) Web and Jesus Price
Just wish the pipeline was going in a sharper direction, can’t expect our higher-profile prospects to start moving up until some point in 12-13.
Thats very true, Leblanc, Beaulieu, Tinordi, Atsvin, all 3-4 years away…
Beaulieu, Tinordi, Kristo will all likely debut in Hamilton next year though, with them and Leblanc, Avtsin we may have a new White/Subban/Pacioretty/Desharnais/White thing going.
How come Kristo isn’t in Hamilton already? Is he younger than Atsvin? Cos from what i hear, studying isn’t his favorite pass time in college…
Kristo’s taking a 3rd year at North Dakota, Habs want him to be dominant at that level before they sign him I think and he has a bit of unfinished business with his below-average sophomore campaign.
Very glad that Tinordi will get to hang out with Hal Gill, art of being a human shadow in your own end 101.
That leapt out at me too. Strategic rostering going on.
Beauty, the times are posted for camp. Thanks. 4 Days and counting to some real, pre-season action.
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Those three teams basically tell you what our top four lines will be on opening night. There’s one per squad with the 4th line checking components being on Team “C”.
I get the top two lines, but how are you seeing the bottom two? Seems to me there are 6 players on Team C that will probably be in the starting lineup, but how the lines shape up can’t be determined just yet.
I would guess that the 3rd line will be AK46/Eller/DD/Darche while the 4th line will be Darche/White/Moen/Engqvist. They may not be totally set in stone (take 3 of the 4 that you like the best) but barring injuries there is really only one spot open on this team and that’s a secondary/sub forward.
I guess we see the top 3 lines in there…
So after looking around at the new salary landscape, is it safe to say that the Habs can sign Subban for $4-4.5M and Price for $6-6.5M (depending on length of term)?
Should the Habs try and sign them now, or wait to see what the new CBA brings? As well, we all hope that both these guys are the real deal but would it be prudent to have them play another season (unsigned) to just make sure? Is that a motivator and/or ego restraint that might be useful?
Hopefully there won’t be a lockout after this season.
The players lost the main battle but are now winning the war. They feel that Fehr can help them get even more of the expanding revenue pie while dumping the escrow issue.
The league will want to correct the loopholes from the present agreement in terms of RFA contracts, front loaded/long term contracts and cap ceiling floors.
I’m not sure where the middle ground is in all of this, especially seeing that Fehr probably feels he has to make a big splash and Bettman has to justify his contract extension.
For reasons unknown (I’ve asked the question several times on this forum) the club refuses to re-sign it’s players until season’s end. Why? Who knows? Other teams around the league sign their players to contract extensions during the regular season all the time…
With that said, let’s face it… Subban is our best defenseman next to a 100% heathly Markov and the best prospect defenseman we’ve had in over 30 years.
Furthmore, evidence has shown that this team has lived and died with their goalie since the 80s. Since the Halak trade, we’ve pretty much put all our eggs in one basket. I have no clue who the other four goalies are invited to training camp or whether they will ever play in the NHL (for this club anyway).
They are going to be the cornerstones for this organization for years to come. The standard for a top tier goalie is at least $5-7 million and around $4-6 million for a top 2 defenseman. I cannot see this changing with a new CBA.
Well said. We have waited for a couple of building blocks since 1993. That’s pushing twenty years. One of the richest franchises in the league is not going to let them go just because of coin, even if the rest of the league has lost it’s mind. Re-signing them is a no brainer.
If we lose Price and Subban then I’m all for going the Oiler route.
I’d like to play against team ‘C’, please.
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